I'm a med student and I'll tell you right now, nepotism is also present in the medical field. Most people think you have to be academically competent to get into med school but trust me you don't. There's this one school that accepts people based on bribes and nepotism (coincidentally it was the only university to reject me). Be careful out there y'all, if you feel like your doctor is not hearing you out, chances might be that it's an incompetent doctor who just got through med school through bribery and nepotism. For my protection, all of this is alleged.
Just to clarify further, there was this one doctor (OBGYN) in my country that was "helping" the mom give birth to her child. It was supposed to be a relatively easy delivery but that baby came out dead (don't really remember the case but I remember that the doctor was from that university that allegedly accepted bribes). To be fair, this is relatively rare occurrence in other universities (to be accepted by bribes), though there are allegedly some universities that will allegedly tell some nepo students beforehand what is in the exam so the students can allegedly pass the exam So they allegedly don't go through the same gruelling exam process that we go through to become doctors, and as a result of allegedly only studying for the exam, will allegedly not remember the content from that exam and not really remember all the content from that year. So they allegedly won't remember the side effects of drugs, and some diseases and disorders. As a med student, I will tell you that everything you learn from the moment you get in must be remembered because they will never repeat the content so telling someone what is in the test is detrimental to the med student's knowledge. All of this is rare (if it even happens), so I'm not telling you to scare you, just making you aware that it is possible to get into university without being academically successful. Everything I said in this comment is alleged.
Vlada Roslyakova did not walk 91 shows in one season for these people with famous last names whose parents pay to get them on the runway to act like the work is "so hard". Nepotism is bad everywhere. The luxury of saying no is not something given to the low income person.
that time Kendall said she was "picky" about shows and how all the other models are not choosing the best shows for their careers as if its not A JOB for them that they have to do to pay bills
@LisaFevral Never have I been happy to not be born in America. Where did you think this was gonna go? Honestly, whiteness allows Nepotism and I'm astonished it took so long for the general public to finally call it out. I think North West's Lion King performance was the final nail in the coffin. White people were ALWAYS okay with Nepotism. Let's be honest. We didn't campaign for Legacy Admissions to be removed, it was ange rover Affirmitive Action (which actually benefited white women).
Being a poor girl in art school was really enlightening. I saw just the edge one has over other students by not having to have a part time job. A lot of talented people graduate without connections and end up working a shitty job and you’re just stuck behind .
@@anustardust dude right ?! My first school had a fashion major , I really wanted to go into fashion but because I had to work in high school too, I never had enough time to get a real portfolio I felt proud of . I got accepted into photography, and soon discovered that was a rich girl major too 😔
I think this is so common in creative careers. I wanted to use my talents as a writer to carve out a career, but nepotism is rampant. I lost one job writing job to a much less experienced nepo baby who spent most of her time planning her wedding on the clock than doing her actual job. And then I was gaslighted out of a copywriting job for another less experienced nepo baby. I now work in finance, and writing is a hobby. It's so damn frustrating.
I know someone who recently toured Oxford Uni and they said they were told they werent allowed part time jobs while they were there, which just isnt feasible for moat people.
to me the unfair advantages are so obvious , like opening a show ?? as your first ever walk ? the fact that Nepo babies get paid so much per show so they can be selective of brands they can walk for , also they are chosen irregardless if they fit the aesthetic (Candle Jenner ) , not only are Nepo babies the best paid models but also the most celebrated , talk about , the one that wins the awards , now how is that fair?
She's probably the worst, cause she barely works. I've seen videos of models, they got to take every opportunity, they can be called whenever, they have to hurry up, it seems stressful.. then you have jenner, that brags because she can cancel whenever she wants.. like yeah because you're rich and you're press
The phrase "It's not what you know, it's who you know" pretty much encapsulates how our society runs on various forms of Nepotism and it makes my blood boil. if you don't have the connections and/or money good luck climbing the ladder. My biggest issue with Nepobabies is that any time their privilege/advantage is called out or even slightly acknowledged they will do Simone Biles levels of Mental Gymnastics to say they are "self-made" instead of just admitting "Yeah my connections and money gave me a leg up and I'm grateful for that.". As she said, self-made people exist, don't get me wrong but as the years go by, self-made celebrities are a dying breed.
the worst things is WHO actually does "climb the ladder" - ppl who don't mind doing something horrific and are overall greed POS. like mrBeast and his copycats, or those guys shilling crypto
I agree with most of what you said but l.think celebrities have been nepo babies for decades now. Think of some our faves : Nicholas Cage is a coppola. Kiefer is a sutherland, even black celebs Sanna Lathan is a Lathan, etc. Many people had some connections : mom is a casting manager, uncle is a producer, God mother was in a popular band .
I got a great internship in 1991. The kind that can hook you up for life, I worked with people related to former POTUS. Oh Lordy! 😂 I was so rural, salt of the earth, and no one ever said “oh we are not equal here” so I did not know any of the rich people rules. I got the job because I had lived experience with the issue & a stellar college resume but omg no one was prepared for a kid from the isolated part of the flatland prairie. I did well, I’m still connected to the Director & my intern boss who is still there, but we all knew I wasn’t going to “level up.” I simply could not act like I was supposed to, I’m good at schmoozing & marketing, but that’s too much fakery. It’s not even ethics, it’s too exhausting to be like them and I just couldn’t keep up lol. They weren’t even bad people at all, just too rich to interact like normal people. Also I accidentally back talked a couple VIPs but they needed it! You take a tone with me on the phone, you’re getting tone back.
@@patriciazandilencube4597I had a friend who wanted to be a director. I assumed it was a long shot. His parents are well known documentarians, and he’s been handed a career. I do not understand how the money works lol, his parents made like 3 movies, he’s made 4-5, but none were super successful financially. I don’t get how they’re all rich! Consulting I guess? The grandparents fled WW2 Europe with nothing, so my friend prob has a trust, but no idea how his folks got so much money. They made one really important doc tho, maybe appearance fees?
It feels like honesty is the real difference. It’s just disrespect to pretend and lie. It’s also very egoistic and gross to watch. “Yep! I got in here because of who I know and my background that the people who hired me want to use as free advertisement.”
I remember getting so annoyed when Kendall Jenner said something about how she doesn’t walk that many shows in a way that implied it’s ridiculous to do so. But like other runway models are doing it because they need the money, so stfu!
they are so detached from real life real models, if they are lucky, get dozens of walks to just stay afloat and provide for their families a stupid kardashian don't have brains to think about it
Nicole Kidman is trying to gaslighting us: she had the means AND the connexion to hire the BEST coahes out there to teach her child to walk properly. Her child is 16, her failure/international humiliation rests more on her mother's shoulders than hers. Similarly to what happened with North and the Lion King performance. Is that who Nicole Kidman wants to emulate: the Kardashians?! 🤨🙄
Sometimes parents can't see clearly. I had drama teacher who haven't noticed her daughter have slight speech impediment: her daughter didn't get into music university because of that - so she was 19 at the time. This was when her mother started to hear it - when someone else told her there is an issue o.O Maybe Nicole seen her daughter walking and thought she is doing ok ? If there wasn't another model to compare she might walk proper (especially in different shoes/stockings combo). Also: Sunday Rose isn't a kid anymore and she wanted to try [when I googled her name - couldn't remember from video - I found that "Nicole Kidman's 16-year-old daughter Sunday Rose admitted to Vogue she was “stressed” when she got a dream-come-true invitation to walk for Miu Miu at Paris Fashion Week. Her famous mom wouldn't even let Sunday attend a runway show until she turned 16, so she's definitely making up for lost time!"
@@MaraMara89 I doubt, that however willful, Sunday Rose would have found her way to that runway without the heavy assistance of her parents. She needed their help to book the job, get her passport up to date, their permission to sign her modelling contract, etc. They set her up to fail.
14:38 I went to art school for two years and realized I had no desire to constantly advertise myself (and by extension, my work) to rich people for the rest of my life. My classmates were wearing this season’s gucci in the wood shop while I was trying to limit my meals in the cafeteria to once per day so my meal plan would last until the end of the semester. I am not very charismatic or good with people and I struggled to relate to these classmates, and at the end of my second year I started to realize these were the types of people my livelihood and career would likely depend on; it sucked allll the joy and interest out of art for me. I transferred to a state school that summer to finish my degree and now I work a boring 9-5 (but at least I have regained my passion for creating art). Kudos to all the people who can endure the ordeal of pursuing what you love at any cost while watching your peers gently stroll to success, that takes a unique mental fortitude not many people possess lol
I feel the same way, I was an art major but switched to science bec the art world is brutal. I do still enjoy art as a hobby tho ❤ you should think about posting UA-cam vids about ur art! Would love to see it
Honestly it’s not the charisma that made it hard for you to relate to them, it is them ahaha they’re genuinely so far removed from life that they think their “hustling”(which is just performing productivity to themselves) is somehow a marker of them being more alive than others. In reality they don’t have to struggle to get to live, so they can’t see how 90% of the population refusing to succumb to mind numbing bag chasing is a form of rebellion
Your meal plan situation hit too close to home as I’m literally going through that right now as we speak (although I have no funds left on my meal plan but God bless my mom and ramen). It’s not healthy, quite frankly nothing that I’m doing is (academically and health wise). I’m not very charismatic either.
yeah, it's not a meritocracy. Don't give up though, use your energy to change the system rather than trying to fight for a hypothetical spot under the sun
Nepotism wouldnt be such an issue, if so many of these nepo babies werent willfully mediocre! They have the means to hire coaches and teachers to help them get ahead in any field, they dream to enter and yet, they dont even bother. Edit: thank you for pointing out the issue is bigger than fashion runways. Black people have been calling this sh*t out since Elvis became big while the Black musicians he ripped off died in anonymity and poverty.
Bruh The thing with Elvis happened a long time ago. Things are different now, obviously, but Black people didn't have as many opportunities back then. What do you mean by commenting that?
@@jasminetapia458 I mean, that the issue is a feature, not a bug. Plus thngs, havent changed that much: people still LOVE to consume Black music performed by non-Black artists. That's literally what is going on currently with kpop and all these w. Caribbean/Latin Am. performers, who managed to reach global success.
There’s the same exact problem in the writing industry. You have people who are INCAPABLE of creating a good story become extremely successful bc they have the money to get a publishing agency and really good advertisements. And they have the opportunity to sit around pushing out all this awful work whereas people like me have jobs and don’t have as much free time to write. It’s so frustrating. On a positive note- I’m VERY excited for the deep dive! You always deliver
This is why when I walk in a book shop it looks like it has been taken over by a bunch of illiterate trolls, but when i log on ao3 suddenly Homer, Dante Alighieri, Virgil and Dacia Maraini descend from the heavens and drop some masterpiece on my lap
Not just writing for literature, but also movies, I reckon. It's why we've been getting so many reboots or badly made and tone deaf garbage movies throughout the 2010s and now. It's just made by people who are uncreative and have no idea how the real world works.
yeah that's why so much art feels like garbage with a bow on top nowadays - all these industries are dried up with only copies and, unfortunately, mediocre thieves:(
You nailed it. When people say, "You need money to make money", it's a literal statement. So many fields are dominated by nepotism, not just because of the name and connections, even though those things are a big part, but truly the fact you need to somehow spend and spend while no one pays you for years because it's actually impossible to work to make the money needed while also working in the field for no profit and since a lot of these fields are very age dependent, before you are out of your 20's and it's now too late to break in. The whole system is screwed up and it's not just entertainment, that's just the most visible and extreme example.
You got it. Need money to make money. Value was originally ascribed to a service or product. To how hard you worked or product you offered to the market. When you make money off the money you’ve already made, you’ve thrown that value system, out the window.
i don’t hate nepo models i just hate seeing and hearing about them every single day when i don’t care 😭 there’s nothing special about any of them, they’re unremarkable in every way and it’s kind of a shock to my brain to see someone who i’ve never heard of before all of the sudden being everywhere without having done something to explain it. it’s more annoyance and i get tired of their faces
"Being everywhere" has to do with the content YOU watch. Stop clicking on Nepo baby content, clear if from your history and dump your cookies. This is your fault and perfectly within your ability to change.
@someusername4129 You do realize algorithms will still throw these random ass people at you first and you clear them out after? This isn't just "why must I see them" but why is anybody aware of these people who don't have merits time and time again?
Meritocracy truly is a myth. I am so glad that you also directed the blame towards Nicole Kidman and the casting director for putting this girl in a shit position, cause it’s so easy to get caught up in the discourse and overlook how kids, regardless of class status, are treated as property/object to fulfill the interests of their parent institution / family. Especially young girls. The higher-ups are not at all interested in cultivating actual talent if it doesn’t yield value back for them. It’s all so transactional, so rotten.
Nepotism always was a thing. It is everywhere. It is not just on this high level. But nepotism is also in when you work in an office and the son of the boss gets your job. And it was always like that and it is everywhere on every level
It's whiteness. Yes, class, but it was acceptable because it mostly benefited white wealthy people. I think North West's Lion King performance was the breaking point for the public.
Even back in the day, nepo babies did have to pay some amount of dues. Anderson Cooper, and actual Vanderbilt, didn't start out on CNN and 60 Minutes. He had to build is career bit by bit. He even waited on tables when he was younger. Meanwhile, today's nepo babies just get high profile gigs handed to them; there is no preparation, no training, and often, no actual talent.
I literally could not even break into teaching - a job that is literally hemorrhaging workers - without a recommendation from my friend to the principal she worked for. Grades mean nothing to employers, it's all who you know every time.
My friend got fired from her job in favor of a nepo baby hire. She still hasn't been able to find work and is surviving off unemployment months later and desperately job hunting.
Same exact problem with actors. Brilliant voice actor (female, with no family background in acting) was nominated for a bafta, but ofc her male colleague whose daddy won awards for his work in the industry and is filthy rich won it instead of her. He keeps emphasising how much of a struggle an artist's life is, while he's coming from a background which ensured he could be an artist without ever facing any financial troubles. Some people think being poor or from a lower class or working class is "cool" and "edgy" and gives them a background that pulls at the heartstrings of the working class masses. It's so old and tired.
okay waiiit i love how you kept saying "we built society in a way" people miss the WE BUILT part a lot and it really made me think about how it doesnt have to be this way, its something we built not a law of nature
Exactly! I love how she words it too. People usually answer by “It is what it is and we need to accept it” when confronted with systemic issues as if it was a law of physics
REAL! And the way it is built does not have fairness in mind. It's in human nature to give better opportunities to people you love/family members, and capitalism as it is now just does not account for that in its "everyone has equal opportunity if they work hard enough" ethos
Pfft, even in crappy mom and pop shops, nepotism is a problem. I used to be a server at a fanily run restaurant. The owner would let her brother steal our tips off the table and barely work he was a bartender, but somehow we were still serving drinks and food, and I didn't know about it until I saw it. I didn’t last there very long.
Nepotism happens everywhere. I have a home office job for a small company, so I don't really know very well my coworkers, since we only talk in a chat and the work I do is writing. But I know that some of those workers are related to the boss and they always do a shittier job than the other workers, but they never leave the company, while other better workers have left the company.
Nepotism is so widespread it's crazy. That was the case when i was in highschool. My grade was separated in two classes, class A and class B! I was in class B. I come from a poor uneducated family, plus I'm from a village, while my highschool is in the nearby town. A lot of the students in class A were from wealthier for our region families, who also had connections with the local town hall, so a friend of mine was in class A and straight up told me that these students get their high grades because of their parents, and usually the parents and teachers know each other. When we graduated highschool back in 2020, during the ceremony the top students from the grade were also given a trophy for their high grades. Out of all 7 top students, i was the only one from class B, the others were exactly those students from class A that had their family wealth and connections to back them up. While I had nothing to rely on than my hard work, they had privilege! In reality nepotism exists everywhere, in every field!
My high school was like this too but the staff would literally view the students with lower grades and poor families as delinquents while the students with good grades and rich families as the good kids even when said "good kids" were overall terrible people. Every year they will have an "achievement" day where it's literally the staff giving trophies and medals to the rich "smart" kids. I wasn't a straight A student and I'm neither rich or poor, but most of my teachers were passive aggressive towards me solely because I'm not as "smart" or "gifted" as my classmates. Similarly, there's an extra grade in my school where ONLY the smart rich kids can go to. I still remember when one of my classmates got an award because of her grades and she's heavily favored among the teachers especially when her mom works as a meteorologist
@@stormdancer3661 oof, I feel you. A lot of my friends were from just as poor of a background as me, but had lower grades, so the teachers didn't treat them well at all. It was sickening how the rich kids with fake high grades were treated like they were angels when in reality they were doing a lot of terrible things! They are always the biggest bullies too!
in german we have a nice word for it, it's called "Vetternwirtschaft", a "vettern" is a cousin and "wirtschaft" means economy, it has the same meaning as nepotism but it's less about stardom and more about normal job positions or opportunities
In Spanish the word is 'enchufe.' It means a plug, so I guess like a connection. It can also be used as a verb 'enchufar,' to 'plug in' or 'to connect.' It is very commonly used since nepotism is rampant there, but like you said it's less about stardom and more about people being chosen for normal jobs not through merit but through their connections.
In Austria we call it „Freunderlwirtschaft“, sort of translating to Friend-economy. It‘s telling how it seems we all have a very specific word for this phenomenon…
Yep, we have a funny word about that, too (it actually includes *two* words for "relatives", too, although neither one is "cousin" as it's in German 😅). It's "шуробаджанащина" (pronounced [ˈʃuro-badʒaˈnaʃtina]). And it's quite the old word, too, based on both those terms for the family members, cause they're not that popular in regular speech (their origins actually come from specific dialectal regions). So yeah, that thing ain't new, it's just that the existence of the internet made it far easier to spot, because anyone can dig any kind of information way easier now. lol Ooops, forgot to mention that by "we" I meant "people in Bulgaria", so that word is in Bulgarian. 😄
Kendell saying it actually made it harder just boiled my blood."i took of my name off my photos"as if millions of high end feshion designers dont know who she is. Please😤
Oh it’s hard. It’s the art world. My boyfriend is extremely talented but came from a poor background. Got himself into cranbrook for his masters. Still the nepo kids are the ones that keep going because they are the ones that can afford to just set up a gallery
When I was in med school, I heard some of the kids there gossiping about someone they knew losing one of their parent. They were *laughing and smiling*. It made me so uncomfortable I felt physically nauseous. And when I told them to stop talking about that (couldn't move away, the hallway was crowded) they looked at me like I was the weird one.
I feel ya. had classmates blame a woman who went to the ER due to domestic violence and said she should have left the relationship while also saying that she was abandoned by her family. same classmate thinks self harm is “attention seeking” and suicide is cowardly or whatever. she once also bragged that the rosary she wears is gold and cost as much as the net minimum wage salary at that time. now i bet she has a cushy job while im racking my brains trying to find work and not break down during interviews
@@capt.kneecaps5237 what a dirty bitch she is. Would hate being around such "people". Maybe I shouldn't dream to marry into a rich family, I'm not ready to hear from rich peoples
This is also common the research community, for example rich student are paying for their internships or research projects, they do this by hiring a company and give them shit tone of money and that company will sponsor, so even if you get the into the internship or research program and you don’t have the founding you are off the games even if your ideas might actually safe millions of people.
@@zztopz7090 not even close. I hate innequality. I want talented people to be eable to serve what they could be serving instead of struggeling for their lifes, so I can enjoy their work, instead of dealing with all the rich untalented nepobabys occupying places they didn't earn. Me being rich in a society on which everyone else is struggeling and untalented people rules is not my ideal of society precisely, sounds rather depressing and uninspiring. I rather have just enough for a decent life, and everyone else too. that.s my ideal., i don't think it's a crazy one... for a capitalistbrainrotbitch I guess it is though
Not nepotism tho, 4 thousands years ago nepotism was already an issue. Capitalism just created the false idea that social mobility is something achievable if you work “hard enough”.
@@biazacha Social mobility isn't necessarily more achievable in supposedly communist nations such as China. While millions were lifted out of poverty it's a mess there now because of too much planning and lack of transparency.... but even before that, it was a mess. Some socialism is good as a minimum like in Scandinavian nations. But we still need capitalism with checks and balances and proper transparency and accountability.... Just remember the kibbutz system in Israel died because people refused to do more than the absolute minimum and even then, they shirked hard work. The same in China with the cultural revolution, people starved as a result. Extremes of capitalism suck as well, it's just not easy, but I wouldn't like to have to lived through the French Revolution, very messy indeed! They did away with the ultimate expression of nepotism; inherited titles and wealth. But the French nation is not immune to corruption or cronyism.
Im 5 foot 9 and my agent told me im too short to model in paris when i was 22. For most models, they never even get a chance, those that do get the chance have to be perfect or its all gone. Some even have debts to pay. Then they see girls who just show up and are " too short" or cant walk. So the rules only apply to us. Im 35 now and married. Glad i aged out of it all. I miss doing editorials, that was the best part of modeling for the creativity.
I long for the days when some tall, thin, gorgeous girl could get discovered while working at McDonalds and next thing you know, she's on the cover of Vogue and walking the runway for Armani, Chanel, and Lauren. Now that same girl is still working at McDonalds while some less deserving nepo baby has the modeling career.
@@OpheliaNL It was more so in the 1960s-80s. But then they were really striving for an aesthetic and someone really striking would get notices. Now it's all about pop culture. Even the clothes are a mashup, not really having a coherence.
I assume that people are mostly mad about the nepotism within the entertainment industry because it's an enviroment where the entire point is for people to be seen by the biggest audience they can find. You have these people under your eyes all the time, so it's immediately evident there. But in other industries, people might not realise it because they wouldn't think about it unless they are in that industry
Plus, there is this misconception, that "beauty" is like a lottery, it doesnt discriminate by class, despite having plenty of examples of models, who "bought" their face and reached the top of the industry.
@@moustik31 EXACTLY! Of course there's people who are naturally beautiful, but the beauty standards of today are so impossibly unattainable that the only way to meet them is through cosmetic surgery. Which is incredibly expensive.
@@CiaLaVirago Right? Plus, after decades of "preferential" dating, people being born "naturally" tall and skinny are more likely to belong to the upper classes.
even when you are IN the industries that are not so public, it takes years until you start finding out how everyone is connected/rich prior entering the work force
Cara delevine, the hadids and kendall jenner are probably the most recognizable models for people who dont know much about the fashion world currently, all of them are nepos
Romeo Beckham having the opportunity to change professions at any time infuriates me. He just showed at fashion week, but until yesterday he was a football player.
Literally. It must be so nice to be able to just drop what you’re doing and pick a new career with no need for years of education, no obstacles in your way.
And Brooklyn Beckham is famous to be a utterly talentless. He want to be a soccer, so his father put a few strings. He has no talent for soccer, so he decide to be a chef with a show on TV. His parents hire their friend Gordon Ramsay to teach him to cook. But he was so bad, they stop after a day. Than he want to be a photographer, but nobody is express from his art and the famous photographer Rankin was shocked how talentless Brooklyn is and Rankin give him a intership and regret it, after that he want to be a model and failed. Now he find his profession, married in a billion family and is a husband. 😅
The thing with the medical field is not only nepotism runs rampant, but also someone decided there would be a maximum number of doctors who can study??? (this may be a frnech-only thing, I hope, I really do) Like why are we forcibly reducing the offer in something vital? I already have to wait a year for my family ophtalmologist, and there are many specialities that are straight-up gone from the city (pediatricians, dermatologists, neurologists, diabetologists, ORL...), and this ain't a 200 people village but a middle-sized town with like 80k people and a hospital??? And you're telling me we're NOT training more doctors???
(Mes connaissances sur le sujet sont assez limitées donc je m’excuse si ce n’est pas vrai) Le nombre maximum d’étudiants en médecine était pour réduire les coûts de l’assurance maladie. Moins de docteurs=moins de gens qui vont chez le docteur= moins d’argents dépensé. Sauf qu’évidemment la logique est complètement absurde et ne fonctionne pas du tout
im in canada and they have the same policy here :( they purposely limit the amount of doctors to keep their wages high! my econ prof whos wife is a doctor told us this. its absurd if you ask me, there really shouldn't be a thing as "too many doctors" and the priority for the medical industry shouldn't be to keep wages high. more doctors means less waiting time, better quality care, and better work life balance for doctors too.
@@miugirl24 That sucks so much omg! And lemme guess, the opposition party also keeps blaming the current gov for the lack of doctors even though they were the gov when the rules were set in place?
@@majomist even worse i fear, they (conservative) blame the federal party (liberals) for the declining quality in health care even tho conservatives are in charge provincially and it falls under provincial jurisdiction to provide healthcare! worse yet the conservatives are actively trying to privatize health care in Canada bc were overrun by monopolies now:) they use the excuse of declining healthcare to push privatization !! idk why people keep voting for them in our provincial elections
my energy is also sooo low it's trashy i have so much shit to do and just stay in bed all day great video as always, thank you! nicole really did her daughter dirty, but maybe they have decided that the victim of shaming persona would make her look innocent and gain more popularity through this painfully, but quickly
I feel like some celebrities put their kids through this so that people can praise them for being a, "Good parent for giving their child so many opportunities." because why would you allow your child to be thrown in there with no preparation and training just so they can embarrass themselves and get bullied online? Clearly they're not doing for the kid, because they could've paid for training or something but chose not to. Parents who say, "I want you to go out there when you're ready, because I don't want you getting bullied." are the ones who genuinely care.
I think nepotism in the artistic world compared to science or poltics comes down to the work. To be a doctor or a lawyer, you need to study & take several tests to get a license. However, nepotisim in those feilds are also worth addressing but I think we ignore them because it's more "depressing" to think about compared to nepotism in the arts. I will say tho that nepo baby discouse (when it comes to arts) has been watered down over the years & it really shows who actually interested in this topic or the field. From what I've seen, the nepo baby model issue connects back to other issues within the modeling industry like the presence of celebrities (that cant walk) on runways & how runway shows aren't as theatric as they used to be but I don't see people outside those circles talking about it. It also really shows with how some people will just hate on all nepo babies without any regard for those with actual talent/are good at their jobs (like the hadid sisters) while failing to name any self-made artists/models or bother to uplift them.
That's a good point. If we really care, we need to bring more attention to the self-made ones, or at the very least bring attention to the ones who are actually good rather than hate-watching people like Kendall.
Yes. The less technical and more abstract and subjective a field is, the more prone it is to attract nepo-people. I reached the same conclusion when I transitioned from doing Graphic Design (specially in Fashion related environments), to working in CGI (much more technically demanding). The higher the complexity barrier the more scared off these mediocre people will be.
Difficult, prestigious jobs attract the upper middle class. They have the money to do 7 years of post-high school education before they get an actual job, but not the connections to make it into the less difficult, prestigious jobs.
Nepotism is in every industry. Modelling is just more exposed and also doesn't require a degree. In other industry you'll get nepotism but usually you at least need some education, but I've seen a lot of terrible students who became famous professionals simply because their parents were already in the industry. You don’t have to be the best you just have to know people.
I am doctor, I studied 7 years med school, 4 years of specialty and 1 year sub specialty , I make 280k annually... Sometimes I feel I wasted my life. Just sharing. I like helping others.
That miu miu show was quite ugly in my opinion 😭 only a few looks stood out to me and the stark difference between it and the Betsy Johnson show (obviously difference vibes) but in terms of cohesion and overall beauty idk why todays fashion shows are so lacking in terms of well EVERYTHING. And don’t get me started on the models walks and personality that they’re allowed to show on the runway
It’s giving I’m 8 years old and my tank top straps are falling down cause they are too long, also my gym shorts shrunk in the wash. I wish I knew more about the fashion design process for runway brands because all I can think the vibe is supposed to be is “eccentrically basic” and rich people’s version of quirky y2k fashion, but a boring modern version 😭
@@lainey7157 I didn't see this, but now this comment makes me think of the Balenciaga scandal 😭 Didn't Nicole Kidman work with them, as did Kim K? The way entertainment industry (among others) uses and abuses kids is horrific 🤮
I've also been in a really bad slump lately in my field, and a lot of it has to do with class and access. I am a tattooer in NYC, literally the most expensive city in the world, and there's so many talented artists around me and in this city. But when I talk to my peers and ask how they can afford this city, the disparity is huge. A lot of artists that are incredibly successful and have a huge following have partners in tech or finance, and they have the savings and finances to rent another space for a studio or even open their own. Some very famous artists, while understandably expensive, are charging $700/hour, which is insane even for the most qualified of artists. Meanwhile, I know many other artists, particularly queer and trans people of color, (and I myself fall into this category) that have to work three jobs to support their actual passion and charge pretty low/accessible prices because they want their qtpoc clients to be able to access a tattoo given the recession. it's super disheartening to see, especially in an artistic industry that's also rife with stealing too.
@@LisaFevral it happens so often in tattooing! especially since there's multiple people and sources that can influence a design. it probably happens even more than we think, just some artists don't post as much
@@kathylennerds750 its very true😢 lots of tattooers are willing to turn a blind eye or just directly copy something because "it's what the client wants" but it's irresponsible. a friend of mine's designs (not even a tattoo artist) was stolen recently and tattooed by someone else on someone else's skin, permanently!! it's usually totally fine as long as there's permission, but so many won't even bother asking for that!
Rich people and their kids dominating the arts is nothing new. Your class decides the type of labor you do. I'm not even mad anymore. These kids don't HAVE to work. We live in a classist world so they get the pick of jobs to do.
if youre nepo baby and have infinite funds to do whatever you want then why not choose something in which you can be good at?? bella hadid is a nepo baby but shes actually good at her job.
I agree. Another nepo baby who is good at her craft is Lilly Collins, daughter of Phil Collins. I love her in Emily in Paris and enjoyed many of her movies.
Theres even nepotism in social work lol i know so many people who only got jobs in private practice or hospitals because their parent/sibling was already in
I hate to say it but when it comes to art a lot of interesting ideas, concepts, uniqueness comes from the varied experiences of living a life outside of the upper class bubble. Not to say it’s impossible to create good art in that context, but that it will all become very bland when thats the only perspective you have. Like you said, artists in this world often have to poach other people’s ideas and perspectives to keep their art fresh. For example, drag has become so influential on our current culture, was born out of queerness and expression in oppression. Yet it’s become so watered down in its many repackaged forms that you could be a full fledged homophobe using slang taken from Paris is Burning, wearing a cut crease, etc. If average people stopped creating culture we would notice. The mess of life is what is at the centre of all this great art and it is what the upper class will choose to remove first from their lives when given the chance.
going to gallery shows and seeing drag queens that uphold the system, that come from very rich privileged backgrounds is really something. Nothing about their performances is art as it was for the real drag queens. Drag scene was intertwined with art and politics, it was instrumental in community building during aids crisis. Now it's just a bunch of rich kids doing VERY poor vogueing, thinking they are somehow in the same lane
I agree that genuinely transgressive art within the upper class context cannot exist without the ideas outside that bubble. The point, I think, is to show solidarity to the marginalized (instead of stealing) and embrace the harsh reality that the elite class strata in which this art is created within should not exist to begin with. But that requires a level of self-deconstruction and critical reflection that very, very few are willing to exercise.
Thank you for talking about this!!! Its do frustrating that we have all these nepotism babies and people look down on it but don't think about or want to change the system
Nepo models irritate me because modelling used to be a job that any girl from a poor or ordinary background could aspire to, if she was beautiful enough. Now the best modelling jobs are being given to girls who are already rich and aren't even that beautiful. Like the one qualification that was inescapable, suddenly doesn't even matter. They used to say 'models are born, not made.' Now they are made, like Bella Hadid, K Jenner. Or not even made, they are put on the catwalk (Sunday Roast, Chrissy Turlington's daughter, the Hadid's older sister, Lila Moss) and we're supposed to act like they belong there. Maybe the point is just to get the brand attention, because we wouldn't be paying attention to the Miu Miu show otherwise.
Heavy on the “models are made” bc back then having plastic surgery as a model was a big NO. Now it’s almost impossible to find a model who is natural. I love Bella hadid and she’s a great model but I don’t think she would be as big as she is if it wasn’t for her last name and her getting all this work done…
I absolutely adore your channel! This video is so on point! Honestly I think why nepotisim has been SUCH a problem in the entertainment industry now, because there has been so many scandals! Non nepo or connected individuals have been speaking out about it. (Like model Owen Mooney who was SA by Alexander Wang, Gemma Ward etc.) If someone's family is already in the status quo, they don't have care about how they act, it's easy to like shut away bad behavior and sweep under the rug for awhile or just quietly buy them off... There's so many reasons why the ET industry has been on this bandwagon, but I digress. This video is going in my favorites for sure, because you hit so points Lisa!
ate 👏 the way this poison it's in every fkn field like, i have two cousins who wanted to be a pilots, one of them is the same class as me (middle lower class) and the other comes from a wealthy bg; guess which one spent years studying and taking loans but never got to be a pilot having to work other shit and prob being depressed for the rest of his life and which one got in without even an interview and is a pilot to this day, and it happened to me as well but in the arts field so...
I love when people deflect nepotism with “My (insert relative/family friend here) had nothing to do with it. We grew up like very middle class.” LIKE THAT STILL DOESN’T NEGATE THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE. Equally as worse are those self-righteous people who think that their geography and not being directly associated with a famous person alters their privileged existence. Romanticising poverty is not the flex we think it is.
Nicole Kidman didn't throw her to the wolves. The internet forgets things easily. Give it 2/3 years and the internet will love her daughter again. I remember when everyone was hating on Addison Rae's lack of talent when she debuted in the music industry and now everyone loves her again. All you need to do is be relevant. So Nicole got it right. Her nepo baby has a long career ahead of her.
You have gone in great depth to dig further into the conversation of the nepo babies crises. Most of us just gloss over the subject and get upset, you brought it to every one attention that it is a bigger crises of nepotism in the world economy, government and social classism. Congrats on your amazing journalism skills. I have worked in the beauty industry for over 35yrs and saw first hand in the makeup industry how many levels and forms of nepotism exist. Your right it’s not the most talented that gets rewarded is the ones with the money who steel your or others creativity that make it big.
The world used to operate nearly exclusively this way (aristocratic rule, etc.). If the general public willingly allow their tastes to be dictated by media and internet search engines, so be it. But of the downstream effects of such adoption at scale, the art world suffering talentless/corrupted individuals really must be the most superficial aspect of this concern.
side note: I think miu miu is seriously over-rated. This show features clothing that only looks good on anorexic women and unflattering to any healthy female body. See how many celebs they had? Hillary Swank and Cara Delavine walked, too. They're trying to distract us from this uninspired, boxy 70's/scifi recycle plus gaudy costume jewelry and fake bra "slips" for manufactured "shock value". This show is so out-of-touch from what women want to look like and aspire to. There is nothing lovely or inspiring in this collection. This is what it looks like when you're so rich you lose your humanity. Hunger-games, indeed.
01:00 No but why those shorts lookin so uncomfortable in the MiuMiu fashion show 😭🏳️also maybe its just me but half of the models kinda look sick (sickly palish) 😢 or maybe its just the make up idk Edit: I'm one of those attention deficit kids 😆🙌 ty for adding the clips~😊
As a creative person, I think creativity as a whole suffers if people get unearned seats. GOT, an enormously popular series, was destroyed by Benioff and Weiss. Sam Levison sunk Euphoria. A ton of the bad content we see today was nepobabies. And people like Nara Smith/Levinson, born into wealth already, got even richer plagiarizing ACTUALLY self-made, talented people from poorer backgrounds.
This is so true and another aspects is that small business and brands specially in fashion do not have the money to trademark and patent their brands and designs which would give them a legal protection, because is an expensive process and you usally would need a lawyer. Not to mention modeling is so dangerous, men and women are exposed to sex trafficking/abuse with little to no protection from the agencies. There is a model Who is trying to pass legislation to protect models in the U.S you should research that, if passed could be the beggining of change.
Many points hitted me so hard, girl I'm trying to build a stylist carrier. I have a job to pay bills and rent (so i can stay in the city where something's going on), i take clients on my weekends. I barely had nice peacfull sleep from march to mid august this year, worked for free on several projects and making costumes out of my personal stuff. I'm a self taught specialist, who still tries to learn and understand art better. I'm burned out before i even reached something. I hate my bills-to-pay job and too tired for one i was passionate about. No extra money whatsoever And knowing more about the industry gets me sometimes thinking "Wow, even if i would made something out of it, I'm a useless clown who do nothing important, it's just clothes 🤡" But i support small creators around, cause what they do is meaningful to me
good lord, your frustration about this is really coming through when you talk and i agree so fucking much. you're right, it's not just in the fields of art and entertainment, this is everywhere, it's pervasive as hell. everywhere you go you see mediocre people acting like (and sometimes even believing) that they're the shit, and they just get platformed by the public for no reason because the problem is that non of them know to identify who is and isn't the shit. that's just the whole problem. media is just so easily accessible to almost everyone now that everyone gets to comment their opinion on it regardless of whether they actually have good taste or not and everyone's forced to listen to it too because of the nature of social media now. earlier, when not everything was so accessible to everyone, u actually had to rely on people who are experts or at least somewhat knowledgeable in a field to judge how good something is. not to defend steve jobs but one thing he was right about was that not everyone has good taste and so only the ones who do should be designing stuff. and honestly, if people weren't so confident that the throngs of tasteless accounts will like and repost their similarly mediocre content, they wouldn't have the audacity to put trash like that out to the world. it's driving me insane. i'm in commerce/business and the current atmosphere in here is just unbelievably soul crushing. just churning out a bunch of accountants and wanna-be entrepreneurs with half-baked efforts, half-baked ideas, half-baked principles (where the half baking is done by some AI no less) who have no more than surface level knowledge in the field they're supposed to be experts in and wouldn't have gotten hired by a half-decent company in any other era of human civilization. and it's not just people doing it themselves, we are actually encouraged to have this kind of an attitude by our mentors and teachers. i wanna get the fuck out of here but where is better?? it's all one big hellscape of mediocrity and as you said, there's no way to "fix" this and i have no idea how we as a generation are gonna move on as from this situation.
In my opinion. Its the top 10 percent hiring the top 10 percent. If they want to see new and unique worked actually hard for this then we should start supporting smaller designers more and they could hold shows. Kinda like independent films and how they are some of the best films out there.😊
I remember Lisa's old video about morals of art industry and wish for contributing to the society in more meaningful way. Back then I was more angry and kinda ok with art being meaningless, good only for artist themself. Yet i guess I healed cause mb would have been great to be doctor or engineer or i dunno even cop (even tho they suck). Mb in perfect solarpunk world people would be studying in meds or doing something mandatory for society and art would be something less capitalized, just for community building or therapy etc. I guess we still can volunteer or just be decent people, but idk if it enough for contribution. Art is not evil, evil are people that hoarding all our resources and making everything to make us suffer.
I'm a psych major (in Türkiye) and in my field nepotism is nearly everything. Even when you study, you have to try to know people who can make you accepted to jobs and internship. This is especially hard because there are no such "parties" (there are some educational things like symposiums) , but you can make yourself known to proffessors and climb the ladder through them. I mean yes, art and particularly modeling industry is terrible and there is a lot nepotism that runs the industry. But the problem is not only nepotism and nearly all industries/fields have it.
Watching all these people not realize that everyone they look at, designers, photographers, artists - all of them are a symptom of what’s wrong beyond the ent industry It would be funny if it wouldn’t be depressing
The truth is that as a species we have always been nepotistic in nature and shallow at that..But the reality is the world was so far apart so these cracks were not evident until today.Via modernism and technology ..The sad thing is ,how much longer in this day and age can this shallowness last before it's weak foundation , we've built as the frame work to life/for life etc..gives way and crumbles..I can't help it's inevitable especially if you add Geo-Politics into the mix and not just the lack of human spirit , without abashment/shame but portrayed Narcissistically as strength. The way to be ,which is to be desensitised to everything /anything barring self and self interest..etc....Whats that saying?" Nice Guy's Finish Last!"It seems we've been conditioned to be this way..A really thought provoking video and I'm glad this imbalance within the art world and society in general is being if not addressed really scrutinised..Because from here starts the change and addressing?..A really good vid..Thanks for sharing..
Agree, it’s not about nepo babies, it’s about money and connections. I remember seeing interview with Tom Hiddlestone where he was talking about how difficult to get the job, and my eyebrows flew over the roof when he said he was walking in a park for hours near his apartment at the center of LONDON. Like, I get it, he’s talented and super cool actor, but he had the privilege to try again and again to get the job without thinking about money every second.
Thank you so much! I've been thinking this since forever. Finally someone actually talks about it. The country I'm from took bribes for better grades. There are even rumors that if you go to university there, you'll have to at least bribe a professor once. It's really sad.
I'm not saying where I work but basically it's a very small department somewhere in an important institution that contributes to the fundaentals of society, and the shit I've heard about people getting certain roles due to the most menial of things, like yes relationships but also HOW THEY LOOK it's worth shitting yourself. There are lots of vital roles, and if there's an inch of public forwardness or even the possibility of your picture being in the public, they will consider the appearance of a person. And ageism, yes it works both ways, but I've seen the reason WHY all of these older ladies in the office get mad over the apperance of other women and where their snickers come from: Men in power are completely ignoring these highly intelligent and stabilized women in favour for someone they want to look at. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum, and the things i've been offered with the pretense that I could date them or somesort of projection onto me of how good they'll look next to me, it's just such a distraction from what I am trying to do with my life. I want to learn and do things the right way, I cannot find the belief in me that some people are so spoiled as to just take something like OPENING FOR PRADA as unserious to not prepare for it. Nepo babies believe because they have good taste and connections that they can replicate the years worth of practice and education, and it's not true, never will be true, and honestly radicalising. Thank you from the dearest piece of my heart for adding to the conversation
Nepotism only drives me to appreciate and search more for small creators and purchasing more from small artists and business! We can do our little part on this, it matters to those trying to succeed in such a hostile society.
I wouldnt even be that mad at nepotism if it just helped you get your foot in the door since that's just networking but the fact that it gets you hired, promoted and better paid than everyone else...
It is a problem in every field. The parents’ money and connections will get you there no matter what you choose for a career. If the job holds any prestige, it is packed with nepo babies. The sooner you realize and accept that meritocracy is a lie we are fed with, the less disappointment you’ll have to suffer.
hi Lisa! As always, the production quality is top tier, the glimmer effect is stunning and the way you present ideas with so much nuance is refreshing!! speaking of smaller artists you follow and admire, would you mind sharing a couple of them? i'd love to see what kind of art resonates with you!
I mostly support people who I became friends with who are artists, but those people who work online and you guys can find - I should make a list of them and post it somewhere or make a video on it
I think one of the reasons why I loved my college experience was because so many women (I went to an all-women's college) at my alma mater were not privileged princesses and nepo babies. You got as far as your talents, skills, and work ethic could take you. Sadly, it's not like this in the real world.
As a model agent I can say why I’m so pissed off: these celebrity kids are taking places of girls, who HAVE to pay their bills, to help their parents, who maybe spent their last money to come to Paris and rent a shitty apartment just to got a chance on FW casting and get a better life - nepo babies are taking away their chances for better life, tho they themselves don’t really need these jobs - they already have all the money. Ima sorry for being dramatic here, but I’m working with models every day and my heart really sinks to see how the industry’s changing - less and less jobs cause a lot of places are RESERVED for celebrities kids on the runway. Tho I’m fully aware why brands are doing it
Lisa I’m glad you said this people care so much about insignificant gossip things and discuss it until the ends of times while actual impactful choices are being made but you’ll never see the internet discussing those issues
I totally agree to your point I generally wished this discourse would lead more people to realize how almost scarily nepotism has taken over every job from corporate level to entry level to even small indie businesses it feels like unless you have a impressive self made resume or is connected to someone or a group of people to your job you can’t get a regular job now a days. I think besides the cultural obsession of celebrity and the entertainment industry, another factor to why nepotism in entertainment/arts hyper-focused is bc of how much of the world has viewed having a lifetime career in the arts as not a serious job the way having a similar job position in medicine/heath, business, criminal law, food service, etc are looked at so it easily becomes exclusive and as a result it becomes one of those industries that you can’t just get in for the hell for it, once you get it, you gotta make sure you succeed or have sustainability to it, so it’s easily hard and difficult but to make it harder by bringing nepotism and elitism it’s gonna bring a massive rage for a lot of people. It’s bad enough for longtime folks were told by family and friends that trying to be a dancer, model, writer or actor is completely unrealistic bc to a certain extent it is but then you make more realistic by creating this massive caste system between the common folks VS those were families are already in the game or people who come from wealth to not worry about the hardship years of grinding. It’s says something how crazy the arts have increasing become inaccessible to anyone who isn’t well connected or come from wealth, you can trace this back to the 1980s thanks to western politicians like Ronald Reagan and Marge thatcher who cut programs and bills that were meant to give proper education and easier access to the arts and the years/decades of capitalism, neo liberalism and unfortunate events (Wall Street crash in 2008 and miss Rona for the 2020s) lead to where we are right now.
hahaha yes all through college i was thinking i was going to go into film/video production of some kind then i realized i would much rather be a teacher than put up with the politics of trying to "make it" in that way. but teaching is insane and im not even sure its worth it with the way public education is right now. idk which would be more fun/less existentially stressful
This is one of the best essays I've listened to ever,? It sayd everything ive winderexsbout snf felt qbout all of this but could not articulate. Its so important for people to hear what u are saying abd understand that its the truth
I remember those shows where the Buzz came from the decor and creativity, not the celebs walking the show. They had trains, buildings, or complete furnished rooms as decor, etc. And the models were giving a nice show. Now, all I see is boring runways, and models in need of antidepressants by the looks and walks they give on the runway.... :S
This might be annoying but I rlly love your taste in art and gg’s and im pitching that you and bississant do a vid where its building the idea of a girl group from the ground up like concept , members , member positions , creative direction , music genre. And it could be a band even and then show each other or do a poll for the winner
Thanks for pointing out runway isn't paid. Lot of people on reddit talking about runway budget going to models. LOL. Anyway, NYC here, 8 years of runway and NYFW. Yep, you only make it if you can afford to be broke forever. Most of the top VS girls lived with my friend Eric who has a "model apartment" - really he just brings girls to the club and gets paid for it every night, and models in NYC who cannot afford it get a free ride as long as they show up to the club. Really dark industry.
I don’t know if that can ever be fixed , that disparity is what that world thrives on especially in the world of modelling. If u are poorer u definitely will be taken advantage of by the industry and be overworked and treated worse. After all what incentive do these people in charge have to treat u well? You’re not Nicole Kidman or Kate Mosses daughter. I know in a couple years her daughter is going to give a Kendall , lily rose Depp or Kate Hudson level take in interview going “this runs in my blood I had no leg up at all you guys are just poor , hateful and jealous of me 🥺 I’m just strategic and hardworking!”
I'm a med student and I'll tell you right now, nepotism is also present in the medical field. Most people think you have to be academically competent to get into med school but trust me you don't. There's this one school that accepts people based on bribes and nepotism (coincidentally it was the only university to reject me). Be careful out there y'all, if you feel like your doctor is not hearing you out, chances might be that it's an incompetent doctor who just got through med school through bribery and nepotism. For my protection, all of this is alleged.
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Bruh 💀💀
Wtf wtf wtf
I would not wish a bad doctor or physician to anyone. That's negligence. If they are allegedly not getting in through proving their worth.... Yikes
Just to clarify further, there was this one doctor (OBGYN) in my country that was "helping" the mom give birth to her child. It was supposed to be a relatively easy delivery but that baby came out dead (don't really remember the case but I remember that the doctor was from that university that allegedly accepted bribes). To be fair, this is relatively rare occurrence in other universities (to be accepted by bribes), though there are allegedly some universities that will allegedly tell some nepo students beforehand what is in the exam so the students can allegedly pass the exam So they allegedly don't go through the same gruelling exam process that we go through to become doctors, and as a result of allegedly only studying for the exam, will allegedly not remember the content from that exam and not really remember all the content from that year. So they allegedly won't remember the side effects of drugs, and some diseases and disorders. As a med student, I will tell you that everything you learn from the moment you get in must be remembered because they will never repeat the content so telling someone what is in the test is detrimental to the med student's knowledge. All of this is rare (if it even happens), so I'm not telling you to scare you, just making you aware that it is possible to get into university without being academically successful. Everything I said in this comment is alleged.
Vlada Roslyakova did not walk 91 shows in one season for these people with famous last names whose parents pay to get them on the runway to act like the work is "so hard". Nepotism is bad everywhere. The luxury of saying no is not something given to the low income person.
@@kristenefox7001 omg vlada is the queeeeeen
that time Kendall said she was "picky" about shows and how all the other models are not choosing the best shows for their careers as if its not A JOB for them that they have to do to pay bills
Ehhhh
Naomi Campbell shaded that.
@LisaFevral Never have I been happy to not be born in America. Where did you think this was gonna go? Honestly, whiteness allows Nepotism and I'm astonished it took so long for the general public to finally call it out. I think North West's Lion King performance was the final nail in the coffin. White people were ALWAYS okay with Nepotism. Let's be honest. We didn't campaign for Legacy Admissions to be removed, it was ange rover Affirmitive Action (which actually benefited white women).
Being a poor girl in art school was really enlightening. I saw just the edge one has over other students by not having to have a part time job. A lot of talented people graduate without connections and end up working a shitty job and you’re just stuck behind .
The same with fashion school. I was astonished by the amount of rich people
@@anustardust dude right ?! My first school had a fashion major , I really wanted to go into fashion but because I had to work in high school too, I never had enough time to get a real portfolio I felt proud of . I got accepted into photography, and soon discovered that was a rich girl major too 😔
Yep. I relate to it
I think this is so common in creative careers. I wanted to use my talents as a writer to carve out a career, but nepotism is rampant. I lost one job writing job to a much less experienced nepo baby who spent most of her time planning her wedding on the clock than doing her actual job. And then I was gaslighted out of a copywriting job for another less experienced nepo baby. I now work in finance, and writing is a hobby. It's so damn frustrating.
I know someone who recently toured Oxford Uni and they said they were told they werent allowed part time jobs while they were there, which just isnt feasible for moat people.
to me the unfair advantages are so obvious , like opening a show ?? as your first ever walk ? the fact that Nepo babies get paid so much per show so they can be selective of brands they can walk for , also they are chosen irregardless if they fit the aesthetic (Candle Jenner ) , not only are Nepo babies the best paid models but also the most celebrated , talk about , the one that wins the awards , now how is that fair?
Ijbol, Candle Jenner 😂😂😂
*Kandle Jenner
🕯️ Jenner😭😭😭
She's probably the worst, cause she barely works. I've seen videos of models, they got to take every opportunity, they can be called whenever, they have to hurry up, it seems stressful.. then you have jenner, that brags because she can cancel whenever she wants.. like yeah because you're rich and you're press
They pay for pr to big themselves up harder than they be
The phrase "It's not what you know, it's who you know" pretty much encapsulates how our society runs on various forms of Nepotism and it makes my blood boil. if you don't have the connections and/or money good luck climbing the ladder.
My biggest issue with Nepobabies is that any time their privilege/advantage is called out or even slightly acknowledged they will do Simone Biles levels of Mental Gymnastics to say they are "self-made" instead of just admitting "Yeah my connections and money gave me a leg up and I'm grateful for that.". As she said, self-made people exist, don't get me wrong but as the years go by, self-made celebrities are a dying breed.
the worst things is WHO actually does "climb the ladder" - ppl who don't mind doing something horrific and are overall greed POS. like mrBeast and his copycats, or those guys shilling crypto
I agree with most of what you said but l.think celebrities have been nepo babies for decades now. Think of some our faves : Nicholas Cage is a coppola. Kiefer is a sutherland, even black celebs Sanna Lathan is a Lathan, etc. Many people had some connections : mom is a casting manager, uncle is a producer, God mother was in a popular band .
I got a great internship in 1991. The kind that can hook you up for life, I worked with people related to former POTUS. Oh Lordy! 😂 I was so rural, salt of the earth, and no one ever said “oh we are not equal here” so I did not know any of the rich people rules. I got the job because I had lived experience with the issue & a stellar college resume but omg no one was prepared for a kid from the isolated part of the flatland prairie. I did well, I’m still connected to the Director & my intern boss who is still there, but we all knew I wasn’t going to “level up.” I simply could not act like I was supposed to, I’m good at schmoozing & marketing, but that’s too much fakery. It’s not even ethics, it’s too exhausting to be like them and I just couldn’t keep up lol. They weren’t even bad people at all, just too rich to interact like normal people. Also I accidentally back talked a couple VIPs but they needed it! You take a tone with me on the phone, you’re getting tone back.
@@patriciazandilencube4597I had a friend who wanted to be a director. I assumed it was a long shot. His parents are well known documentarians, and he’s been handed a career. I do not understand how the money works lol, his parents made like 3 movies, he’s made 4-5, but none were super successful financially. I don’t get how they’re all rich! Consulting I guess? The grandparents fled WW2 Europe with nothing, so my friend prob has a trust, but no idea how his folks got so much money. They made one really important doc tho, maybe appearance fees?
It feels like honesty is the real difference. It’s just disrespect to pretend and lie. It’s also very egoistic and gross to watch.
“Yep! I got in here because of who I know and my background that the people who hired me want to use as free advertisement.”
I remember getting so annoyed when Kendall Jenner said something about how she doesn’t walk that many shows in a way that implied it’s ridiculous to do so. But like other runway models are doing it because they need the money, so stfu!
She legit also said it also made it "harder" for her. Like I would take the opportunity if I wanted to be a model but be self aware for god's sake.
they are so detached from real life
real models, if they are lucky, get dozens of walks to just stay afloat and provide for their families
a stupid kardashian don't have brains to think about it
Nicole Kidman is trying to gaslighting us: she had the means AND the connexion to hire the BEST coahes out there to teach her child to walk properly. Her child is 16, her failure/international humiliation rests more on her mother's shoulders than hers. Similarly to what happened with North and the Lion King performance. Is that who Nicole Kidman wants to emulate: the Kardashians?!
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Because would be a waste of money and time hire someone when the kid can't behave and feels like she doesn't need it.
Maybe she does, actually..? She thought: well if those girls can be supermodels, so can my daughter... 😞
Sometimes parents can't see clearly. I had drama teacher who haven't noticed her daughter have slight speech impediment: her daughter didn't get into music university because of that - so she was 19 at the time. This was when her mother started to hear it - when someone else told her there is an issue o.O Maybe Nicole seen her daughter walking and thought she is doing ok ? If there wasn't another model to compare she might walk proper (especially in different shoes/stockings combo).
Also: Sunday Rose isn't a kid anymore and she wanted to try [when I googled her name - couldn't remember from video - I found that "Nicole Kidman's 16-year-old daughter Sunday Rose admitted to Vogue she was “stressed” when she got a dream-come-true invitation to walk for Miu Miu at Paris Fashion Week. Her famous mom wouldn't even let Sunday attend a runway show until she turned 16, so she's definitely making up for lost time!"
What if they are threatening people? I mean … they would have the means for it
@@MaraMara89 I doubt, that however willful, Sunday Rose would have found her way to that runway without the heavy assistance of her parents. She needed their help to book the job, get her passport up to date, their permission to sign her modelling contract, etc. They set her up to fail.
14:38 I went to art school for two years and realized I had no desire to constantly advertise myself (and by extension, my work) to rich people for the rest of my life. My classmates were wearing this season’s gucci in the wood shop while I was trying to limit my meals in the cafeteria to once per day so my meal plan would last until the end of the semester.
I am not very charismatic or good with people and I struggled to relate to these classmates, and at the end of my second year I started to realize these were the types of people my livelihood and career would likely depend on; it sucked allll the joy and interest out of art for me. I transferred to a state school that summer to finish my degree and now I work a boring 9-5 (but at least I have regained my passion for creating art). Kudos to all the people who can endure the ordeal of pursuing what you love at any cost while watching your peers gently stroll to success, that takes a unique mental fortitude not many people possess lol
I feel the same way, I was an art major but switched to science bec the art world is brutal. I do still enjoy art as a hobby tho ❤ you should think about posting UA-cam vids about ur art! Would love to see it
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Honestly it’s not the charisma that made it hard for you to relate to them, it is them ahaha they’re genuinely so far removed from life that they think their “hustling”(which is just performing productivity to themselves) is somehow a marker of them being more alive than others. In reality they don’t have to struggle to get to live, so they can’t see how 90% of the population refusing to succumb to mind numbing bag chasing is a form of rebellion
Your meal plan situation hit too close to home as I’m literally going through that right now as we speak (although I have no funds left on my meal plan but God bless my mom and ramen). It’s not healthy, quite frankly nothing that I’m doing is (academically and health wise). I’m not very charismatic either.
Those artist UA-cam videos of people saying 'how I make 4k a month as an artist'... 🙄
I like what Bo Burnham said when Conan O’Brian asked him if he had advice for aspiring comedians and he said “take a deep breath and give up”
yeah, it's not a meritocracy. Don't give up though, use your energy to change the system rather than trying to fight for a hypothetical spot under the sun
Nepotism wouldnt be such an issue, if so many of these nepo babies werent willfully mediocre! They have the means to hire coaches and teachers to help them get ahead in any field, they dream to enter and yet, they dont even bother.
Edit: thank you for pointing out the issue is bigger than fashion runways. Black people have been calling this sh*t out since Elvis became big while the Black musicians he ripped off died in anonymity and poverty.
yessss it's been going on forever, and it ALL comes from the same place - the fact that we don't have real equality
As if there aren't black nepokids
Before you start crying, I am a woc.
Bruh The thing with Elvis happened a long time ago. Things are different now, obviously, but Black people didn't have as many opportunities back then. What do you mean by commenting that?
@@jasminetapia458 I mean, that the issue is a feature, not a bug. Plus thngs, havent changed that much: people still LOVE to consume Black music performed by non-Black artists. That's literally what is going on currently with kpop and all these w. Caribbean/Latin Am. performers, who managed to reach global success.
@@zah936 Black nepo babies are also part of the issue, obviously, Mrs "WOC".
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There’s the same exact problem in the writing industry. You have people who are INCAPABLE of creating a good story become extremely successful bc they have the money to get a publishing agency and really good advertisements. And they have the opportunity to sit around pushing out all this awful work whereas people like me have jobs and don’t have as much free time to write. It’s so frustrating.
On a positive note- I’m VERY excited for the deep dive! You always deliver
This is why when I walk in a book shop it looks like it has been taken over by a bunch of illiterate trolls, but when i log on ao3 suddenly Homer, Dante Alighieri, Virgil and Dacia Maraini descend from the heavens and drop some masterpiece on my lap
Not just writing for literature, but also movies, I reckon. It's why we've been getting so many reboots or badly made and tone deaf garbage movies throughout the 2010s and now. It's just made by people who are uncreative and have no idea how the real world works.
yeah that's why so much art feels like garbage with a bow on top nowadays - all these industries are dried up with only copies and, unfortunately, mediocre thieves:(
Or ghostwriters
@@LisaFevral simulacrum vibes mayhaps?
You nailed it. When people say, "You need money to make money", it's a literal statement. So many fields are dominated by nepotism, not just because of the name and connections, even though those things are a big part, but truly the fact you need to somehow spend and spend while no one pays you for years because it's actually impossible to work to make the money needed while also working in the field for no profit and since a lot of these fields are very age dependent, before you are out of your 20's and it's now too late to break in. The whole system is screwed up and it's not just entertainment, that's just the most visible and extreme example.
You got it. Need money to make money. Value was originally ascribed to a service or product. To how hard you worked or product you offered to the market. When you make money off the money you’ve already made, you’ve thrown that value system, out the window.
i don’t hate nepo models i just hate seeing and hearing about them every single day when i don’t care 😭 there’s nothing special about any of them, they’re unremarkable in every way and it’s kind of a shock to my brain to see someone who i’ve never heard of before all of the sudden being everywhere without having done something to explain it. it’s more annoyance and i get tired of their faces
no girl your just a bitter girl
"Being everywhere" has to do with the content YOU watch. Stop clicking on Nepo baby content, clear if from your history and dump your cookies. This is your fault and perfectly within your ability to change.
@someusername4129 You do realize algorithms will still throw these random ass people at you first and you clear them out after? This isn't just "why must I see them" but why is anybody aware of these people who don't have merits time and time again?
Meritocracy truly is a myth. I am so glad that you also directed the blame towards Nicole Kidman and the casting director for putting this girl in a shit position, cause it’s so easy to get caught up in the discourse and overlook how kids, regardless of class status, are treated as property/object to fulfill the interests of their parent institution / family. Especially young girls. The higher-ups are not at all interested in cultivating actual talent if it doesn’t yield value back for them. It’s all so transactional, so rotten.
that miumiu diaper is bothering me more than the models
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same
Nepotism always was a thing. It is everywhere. It is not just on this high level. But nepotism is also in when you work in an office and the son of the boss gets your job. And it was always like that and it is everywhere on every level
It's whiteness. Yes, class, but it was acceptable because it mostly benefited white wealthy people. I think North West's Lion King performance was the breaking point for the public.
Even back in the day, nepo babies did have to pay some amount of dues. Anderson Cooper, and actual Vanderbilt, didn't start out on CNN and 60 Minutes. He had to build is career bit by bit. He even waited on tables when he was younger. Meanwhile, today's nepo babies just get high profile gigs handed to them; there is no preparation, no training, and often, no actual talent.
I literally could not even break into teaching - a job that is literally hemorrhaging workers - without a recommendation from my friend to the principal she worked for. Grades mean nothing to employers, it's all who you know every time.
My friend got fired from her job in favor of a nepo baby hire. She still hasn't been able to find work and is surviving off unemployment months later and desperately job hunting.
Same exact problem with actors. Brilliant voice actor (female, with no family background in acting) was nominated for a bafta, but ofc her male colleague whose daddy won awards for his work in the industry and is filthy rich won it instead of her. He keeps emphasising how much of a struggle an artist's life is, while he's coming from a background which ensured he could be an artist without ever facing any financial troubles. Some people think being poor or from a lower class or working class is "cool" and "edgy" and gives them a background that pulls at the heartstrings of the working class masses. It's so old and tired.
Do you mean the people nominated for the "Performer in a Leading Role" category?
okay waiiit i love how you kept saying "we built society in a way" people miss the WE BUILT part a lot and it really made me think about how it doesnt have to be this way, its something we built not a law of nature
yeah ppl love to say that everything is a "law of nature", like no dude, we built it brick by brick
Exactly! I love how she words it too. People usually answer by “It is what it is and we need to accept it” when confronted with systemic issues as if it was a law of physics
REAL! And the way it is built does not have fairness in mind. It's in human nature to give better opportunities to people you love/family members, and capitalism as it is now just does not account for that in its "everyone has equal opportunity if they work hard enough" ethos
Not a law of nature but inherent to society,the system, the establisment.
Pfft, even in crappy mom and pop shops, nepotism is a problem. I used to be a server at a fanily run restaurant. The owner would let her brother steal our tips off the table and barely work he was a bartender, but somehow we were still serving drinks and food, and I didn't know about it until I saw it. I didn’t last there very long.
Nepotism happens everywhere. I have a home office job for a small company, so I don't really know very well my coworkers, since we only talk in a chat and the work I do is writing. But I know that some of those workers are related to the boss and they always do a shittier job than the other workers, but they never leave the company, while other better workers have left the company.
I worked for a family business once. Never again.
Nepotism is so widespread it's crazy. That was the case when i was in highschool. My grade was separated in two classes, class A and class B! I was in class B. I come from a poor uneducated family, plus I'm from a village, while my highschool is in the nearby town. A lot of the students in class A were from wealthier for our region families, who also had connections with the local town hall, so a friend of mine was in class A and straight up told me that these students get their high grades because of their parents, and usually the parents and teachers know each other. When we graduated highschool back in 2020, during the ceremony the top students from the grade were also given a trophy for their high grades. Out of all 7 top students, i was the only one from class B, the others were exactly those students from class A that had their family wealth and connections to back them up. While I had nothing to rely on than my hard work, they had privilege! In reality nepotism exists everywhere, in every field!
My high school was like this too but the staff would literally view the students with lower grades and poor families as delinquents while the students with good grades and rich families as the good kids even when said "good kids" were overall terrible people. Every year they will have an "achievement" day where it's literally the staff giving trophies and medals to the rich "smart" kids. I wasn't a straight A student and I'm neither rich or poor, but most of my teachers were passive aggressive towards me solely because I'm not as "smart" or "gifted" as my classmates. Similarly, there's an extra grade in my school where ONLY the smart rich kids can go to. I still remember when one of my classmates got an award because of her grades and she's heavily favored among the teachers especially when her mom works as a meteorologist
@@stormdancer3661 oof, I feel you. A lot of my friends were from just as poor of a background as me, but had lower grades, so the teachers didn't treat them well at all. It was sickening how the rich kids with fake high grades were treated like they were angels when in reality they were doing a lot of terrible things! They are always the biggest bullies too!
Interesting that Trump wants to abolish the Department of Education. Got to keep the masses down!
@@deborahcurtis1385 Ruining education is the first sign of the downfall of a country! Taking away proper education from the people is extremely scary!
in german we have a nice word for it, it's called "Vetternwirtschaft", a "vettern" is a cousin and "wirtschaft" means economy, it has the same meaning as nepotism but it's less about stardom and more about normal job positions or opportunities
In Spanish the word is 'enchufe.' It means a plug, so I guess like a connection. It can also be used as a verb 'enchufar,' to 'plug in' or 'to connect.' It is very commonly used since nepotism is rampant there, but like you said it's less about stardom and more about people being chosen for normal jobs not through merit but through their connections.
In Austria we call it „Freunderlwirtschaft“, sort of translating to Friend-economy. It‘s telling how it seems we all have a very specific word for this phenomenon…
Yep, we have a funny word about that, too (it actually includes *two* words for "relatives", too, although neither one is "cousin" as it's in German 😅). It's "шуробаджанащина" (pronounced [ˈʃuro-badʒaˈnaʃtina]). And it's quite the old word, too, based on both those terms for the family members, cause they're not that popular in regular speech (their origins actually come from specific dialectal regions). So yeah, that thing ain't new, it's just that the existence of the internet made it far easier to spot, because anyone can dig any kind of information way easier now.
lol Ooops, forgot to mention that by "we" I meant "people in Bulgaria", so that word is in Bulgarian. 😄
In Russian we called it kumovstvo it has the same meaning as nepotism, but like for regular jobs, kum means godfather 😅
In Sweden it's "svågerpolitik", from the words for brother-in-law + politics.
Kendell saying it actually made it harder just boiled my blood."i took of my name off my photos"as if millions of high end feshion designers dont know who she is. Please😤
Oh it’s hard. It’s the art world. My boyfriend is extremely talented but came from a poor background. Got himself into cranbrook for his masters. Still the nepo kids are the ones that keep going because they are the ones that can afford to just set up a gallery
When I was in med school, I heard some of the kids there gossiping about someone they knew losing one of their parent. They were *laughing and smiling*. It made me so uncomfortable I felt physically nauseous. And when I told them to stop talking about that (couldn't move away, the hallway was crowded) they looked at me like I was the weird one.
They lived in the wrong reality that they themself got themselves into.
I feel ya. had classmates blame a woman who went to the ER due to domestic violence and said she should have left the relationship while also saying that she was abandoned by her family. same classmate thinks self harm is “attention seeking” and suicide is cowardly or whatever. she once also bragged that the rosary she wears is gold and cost as much as the net minimum wage salary at that time. now i bet she has a cushy job while im racking my brains trying to find work and not break down during interviews
@@capt.kneecaps5237 what a dirty bitch she is. Would hate being around such "people". Maybe I shouldn't dream to marry into a rich family, I'm not ready to hear from rich peoples
Law school is as bad. Very gossipy and petty.
@@deborahcurtis1385 Vet school is unfortunately the same too
This is also common the research community, for example rich student are paying for their internships or research projects, they do this by hiring a company and give them shit tone of money and that company will sponsor, so even if you get the into the internship or research program and you don’t have the founding you are off the games even if your ideas might actually safe millions of people.
same in engineering, just to graduate you have to have an investor, it's literally in the curriculum
in the end, the answer to ¨what's the origin of (insert problem)?¨ is always ¨capitalism¨
But you dont hate capitalism. You just hate being poor.
@@zztopz7090 not even close. I hate innequality. I want talented people to be eable to serve what they could be serving instead of struggeling for their lifes, so I can enjoy their work, instead of dealing with all the rich untalented nepobabys occupying places they didn't earn. Me being rich in a society on which everyone else is struggeling and untalented people rules is not my ideal of society precisely, sounds rather depressing and uninspiring. I rather have just enough for a decent life, and everyone else too. that.s my ideal., i don't think it's a crazy one... for a capitalistbrainrotbitch I guess it is though
Not nepotism tho, 4 thousands years ago nepotism was already an issue. Capitalism just created the false idea that social mobility is something achievable if you work “hard enough”.
@@biazacha Social mobility isn't necessarily more achievable in supposedly communist nations such as China. While millions were lifted out of poverty it's a mess there now because of too much planning and lack of transparency.... but even before that, it was a mess. Some socialism is good as a minimum like in Scandinavian nations. But we still need capitalism with checks and balances and proper transparency and accountability.... Just remember the kibbutz system in Israel died because people refused to do more than the absolute minimum and even then, they shirked hard work. The same in China with the cultural revolution, people starved as a result. Extremes of capitalism suck as well, it's just not easy, but I wouldn't like to have to lived through the French Revolution, very messy indeed! They did away with the ultimate expression of nepotism; inherited titles and wealth. But the French nation is not immune to corruption or cronyism.
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Im 5 foot 9 and my agent told me im too short to model in paris when i was 22.
For most models, they never even get a chance, those that do get the chance have to be perfect or its all gone. Some even have debts to pay. Then they see girls who just show up and are " too short" or cant walk. So the rules only apply to us.
Im 35 now and married. Glad i aged out of it all. I miss doing editorials, that was the best part of modeling for the creativity.
I long for the days when some tall, thin, gorgeous girl could get discovered while working at McDonalds and next thing you know, she's on the cover of Vogue and walking the runway for Armani, Chanel, and Lauren. Now that same girl is still working at McDonalds while some less deserving nepo baby has the modeling career.
Kate Moss was 5’ 6”
@@sararichardson737outlier . But now most aren’t 5’9
@@Jennifer-my5dm Was that ever the reality though?
@@OpheliaNL It was more so in the 1960s-80s. But then they were really striving for an aesthetic and someone really striking would get notices. Now it's all about pop culture. Even the clothes are a mashup, not really having a coherence.
I assume that people are mostly mad about the nepotism within the entertainment industry because it's an enviroment where the entire point is for people to be seen by the biggest audience they can find.
You have these people under your eyes all the time, so it's immediately evident there. But in other industries, people might not realise it because they wouldn't think about it unless they are in that industry
Plus, there is this misconception, that "beauty" is like a lottery, it doesnt discriminate by class, despite having plenty of examples of models, who "bought" their face and reached the top of the industry.
@@moustik31 EXACTLY! Of course there's people who are naturally beautiful, but the beauty standards of today are so impossibly unattainable that the only way to meet them is through cosmetic surgery. Which is incredibly expensive.
@@CiaLaVirago Right? Plus, after decades of "preferential" dating, people being born "naturally" tall and skinny are more likely to belong to the upper classes.
even when you are IN the industries that are not so public, it takes years until you start finding out how everyone is connected/rich prior entering the work force
@@LisaFevralWe can always just watch Anime. We don't have to watch USA movies and listen to Nepobaby music
Cara delevine, the hadids and kendall jenner are probably the most recognizable models for people who dont know much about the fashion world currently, all of them are nepos
At least Cara Delevine is actually good at her job, she is always surving but can't say the same about other nepo babies.
Romeo Beckham having the opportunity to change professions at any time infuriates me. He just showed at fashion week, but until yesterday he was a football player.
Literally. It must be so nice to be able to just drop what you’re doing and pick a new career with no need for years of education, no obstacles in your way.
And Brooklyn Beckham is famous to be a utterly talentless. He want to be a soccer, so his father put a few strings. He has no talent for soccer, so he decide to be a chef with a show on TV. His parents hire their friend Gordon Ramsay to teach him to cook. But he was so bad, they stop after a day. Than he want to be a photographer, but nobody is express from his art and the famous photographer Rankin was shocked how talentless Brooklyn is and Rankin give him a intership and regret it, after that he want to be a model and failed. Now he find his profession, married in a billion family and is a husband. 😅
and had the opportunity to play on big clubs while being a shit player
Discussing reasons why people are pissed about nepo babies while sitting under Seulgi’s 28 REASONS… genius scene setup
sorry, can you explain the genius scene setup?
@@hellodarknesss.myoldfriend me to, plis explain
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@@hellodarknesss.myoldfriendreplying so i can wait for the ☕update lol
The thing with the medical field is not only nepotism runs rampant, but also someone decided there would be a maximum number of doctors who can study??? (this may be a frnech-only thing, I hope, I really do) Like why are we forcibly reducing the offer in something vital? I already have to wait a year for my family ophtalmologist, and there are many specialities that are straight-up gone from the city (pediatricians, dermatologists, neurologists, diabetologists, ORL...), and this ain't a 200 people village but a middle-sized town with like 80k people and a hospital??? And you're telling me we're NOT training more doctors???
(Mes connaissances sur le sujet sont assez limitées donc je m’excuse si ce n’est pas vrai) Le nombre maximum d’étudiants en médecine était pour réduire les coûts de l’assurance maladie. Moins de docteurs=moins de gens qui vont chez le docteur= moins d’argents dépensé. Sauf qu’évidemment la logique est complètement absurde et ne fonctionne pas du tout
@@sleepy_cloud2501 C'est une logique tellement absurde qu'elle pourrait bien être réelle...
im in canada and they have the same policy here :( they purposely limit the amount of doctors to keep their wages high! my econ prof whos wife is a doctor told us this. its absurd if you ask me, there really shouldn't be a thing as "too many doctors" and the priority for the medical industry shouldn't be to keep wages high. more doctors means less waiting time, better quality care, and better work life balance for doctors too.
@@miugirl24 That sucks so much omg! And lemme guess, the opposition party also keeps blaming the current gov for the lack of doctors even though they were the gov when the rules were set in place?
@@majomist even worse i fear, they (conservative) blame the federal party (liberals) for the declining quality in health care even tho conservatives are in charge provincially and it falls under provincial jurisdiction to provide healthcare! worse yet the conservatives are actively trying to privatize health care in Canada bc were overrun by monopolies now:) they use the excuse of declining healthcare to push privatization !! idk why people keep voting for them in our provincial elections
my energy is also sooo low it's trashy i have so much shit to do and just stay in bed all day
great video as always, thank you! nicole really did her daughter dirty, but maybe they have decided that the victim of shaming persona would make her look innocent and gain more popularity through this painfully, but quickly
I feel like some celebrities put their kids through this so that people can praise them for being a, "Good parent for giving their child so many opportunities." because why would you allow your child to be thrown in there with no preparation and training just so they can embarrass themselves and get bullied online? Clearly they're not doing for the kid, because they could've paid for training or something but chose not to. Parents who say, "I want you to go out there when you're ready, because I don't want you getting bullied." are the ones who genuinely care.
maybe you're right!
You should do a blood test, I'm going to do it tomorrow to check my thyroid. So maybe your thyroid is off
I think nepotism in the artistic world compared to science or poltics comes down to the work. To be a doctor or a lawyer, you need to study & take several tests to get a license. However, nepotisim in those feilds are also worth addressing but I think we ignore them because it's more "depressing" to think about compared to nepotism in the arts.
I will say tho that nepo baby discouse (when it comes to arts) has been watered down over the years & it really shows who actually interested in this topic or the field. From what I've seen, the nepo baby model issue connects back to other issues within the modeling industry like the presence of celebrities (that cant walk) on runways & how runway shows aren't as theatric as they used to be but I don't see people outside those circles talking about it. It also really shows with how some people will just hate on all nepo babies without any regard for those with actual talent/are good at their jobs (like the hadid sisters) while failing to name any self-made artists/models or bother to uplift them.
That's a good point. If we really care, we need to bring more attention to the self-made ones, or at the very least bring attention to the ones who are actually good rather than hate-watching people like Kendall.
Yes. The less technical and more abstract and subjective a field is, the more prone it is to attract nepo-people. I reached the same conclusion when I transitioned from doing Graphic Design (specially in Fashion related environments), to working in CGI (much more technically demanding). The higher the complexity barrier the more scared off these mediocre people will be.
Difficult, prestigious jobs attract the upper middle class. They have the money to do 7 years of post-high school education before they get an actual job, but not the connections to make it into the less difficult, prestigious jobs.
Nepotism is in every industry. Modelling is just more exposed and also doesn't require a degree. In other industry you'll get nepotism but usually you at least need some education, but I've seen a lot of terrible students who became famous professionals simply because their parents were already in the industry. You don’t have to be the best you just have to know people.
I am doctor, I studied 7 years med school, 4 years of specialty and 1 year sub specialty , I make 280k annually... Sometimes I feel I wasted my life.
Just sharing. I like helping others.
I've always thought that we need more artists from lower and middle class background to share their experiences and diversify the art❤❤
That miu miu show was quite ugly in my opinion 😭 only a few looks stood out to me and the stark difference between it and the Betsy Johnson show (obviously difference vibes) but in terms of cohesion and overall beauty idk why todays fashion shows are so lacking in terms of well EVERYTHING.
And don’t get me started on the models walks and personality that they’re allowed to show on the runway
It’s giving I’m 8 years old and my tank top straps are falling down cause they are too long, also my gym shorts shrunk in the wash. I wish I knew more about the fashion design process for runway brands because all I can think the vibe is supposed to be is “eccentrically basic” and rich people’s version of quirky y2k fashion, but a boring modern version 😭
@@lainey7157 I didn't see this, but now this comment makes me think of the Balenciaga scandal 😭 Didn't Nicole Kidman work with them, as did Kim K? The way entertainment industry (among others) uses and abuses kids is horrific 🤮
I agree! I far prefer fashion from around 1994-2000, when minimalism was in and clothes were more feminine and elegant.
honestly miu miu's entire unifying design theme seems to be "is it fashion or is she just skinny"
I've also been in a really bad slump lately in my field, and a lot of it has to do with class and access. I am a tattooer in NYC, literally the most expensive city in the world, and there's so many talented artists around me and in this city. But when I talk to my peers and ask how they can afford this city, the disparity is huge. A lot of artists that are incredibly successful and have a huge following have partners in tech or finance, and they have the savings and finances to rent another space for a studio or even open their own. Some very famous artists, while understandably expensive, are charging $700/hour, which is insane even for the most qualified of artists. Meanwhile, I know many other artists, particularly queer and trans people of color, (and I myself fall into this category) that have to work three jobs to support their actual passion and charge pretty low/accessible prices because they want their qtpoc clients to be able to access a tattoo given the recession. it's super disheartening to see, especially in an artistic industry that's also rife with stealing too.
the stealing is just the nail in that damn coffin ahahah struggling just to see someone profit off of your work is just the worst
@@LisaFevral it happens so often in tattooing! especially since there's multiple people and sources that can influence a design. it probably happens even more than we think, just some artists don't post as much
I always find it suspicious when tattoo artist don't have an issue with tattooing another person's design no question (usually off pinterest) :/
@@kathylennerds750 its very true😢 lots of tattooers are willing to turn a blind eye or just directly copy something because "it's what the client wants" but it's irresponsible. a friend of mine's designs (not even a tattoo artist) was stolen recently and tattooed by someone else on someone else's skin, permanently!! it's usually totally fine as long as there's permission, but so many won't even bother asking for that!
Rich people and their kids dominating the arts is nothing new. Your class decides the type of labor you do. I'm not even mad anymore. These kids don't HAVE to work. We live in a classist world so they get the pick of jobs to do.
that's why the world shouldn't be classist
@@LisaFevral and I agree with you.
if youre nepo baby and have infinite funds to do whatever you want then why not choose something in which you can be good at?? bella hadid is a nepo baby but shes actually good at her job.
I agree. Another nepo baby who is good at her craft is Lilly Collins, daughter of Phil Collins. I love her in Emily in Paris and enjoyed many of her movies.
Theres even nepotism in social work lol i know so many people who only got jobs in private practice or hospitals because their parent/sibling was already in
I hate to say it but when it comes to art a lot of interesting ideas, concepts, uniqueness comes from the varied experiences of living a life outside of the upper class bubble. Not to say it’s impossible to create good art in that context, but that it will all become very bland when thats the only perspective you have. Like you said, artists in this world often have to poach other people’s ideas and perspectives to keep their art fresh. For example, drag has become so influential on our current culture, was born out of queerness and expression in oppression. Yet it’s become so watered down in its many repackaged forms that you could be a full fledged homophobe using slang taken from Paris is Burning, wearing a cut crease, etc. If average people stopped creating culture we would notice. The mess of life is what is at the centre of all this great art and it is what the upper class will choose to remove first from their lives when given the chance.
going to gallery shows and seeing drag queens that uphold the system, that come from very rich privileged backgrounds is really something. Nothing about their performances is art as it was for the real drag queens. Drag scene was intertwined with art and politics, it was instrumental in community building during aids crisis. Now it's just a bunch of rich kids doing VERY poor vogueing, thinking they are somehow in the same lane
No, drag came from the fact that women weren't allowed to be part of plays, gay people as a community startied copying it and renamed it as drag.
I agree that genuinely transgressive art within the upper class context cannot exist without the ideas outside that bubble. The point, I think, is to show solidarity to the marginalized (instead of stealing) and embrace the harsh reality that the elite class strata in which this art is created within should not exist to begin with. But that requires a level of self-deconstruction and critical reflection that very, very few are willing to exercise.
Thank you for talking about this!!! Its do frustrating that we have all these nepotism babies and people look down on it but don't think about or want to change the system
it's just funny that so many ppl think it's separate from everything else and can be fixed in modelling separately
Nepo models irritate me because modelling used to be a job that any girl from a poor or ordinary background could aspire to, if she was beautiful enough. Now the best modelling jobs are being given to girls who are already rich and aren't even that beautiful. Like the one qualification that was inescapable, suddenly doesn't even matter. They used to say 'models are born, not made.' Now they are made, like Bella Hadid, K Jenner. Or not even made, they are put on the catwalk (Sunday Roast, Chrissy Turlington's daughter, the Hadid's older sister, Lila Moss) and we're supposed to act like they belong there. Maybe the point is just to get the brand attention, because we wouldn't be paying attention to the Miu Miu show otherwise.
Heavy on the “models are made” bc back then having plastic surgery as a model was a big NO. Now it’s almost impossible to find a model who is natural. I love Bella hadid and she’s a great model but I don’t think she would be as big as she is if it wasn’t for her last name and her getting all this work done…
Absolutely true!
What’s the difference between becoming a model because your parents are rich and because your mom gave you a pretty face? Both didn’t work for it
@@emryborge7027 Not all “nepo models” are good at modeling and wouldn’t even get opportunity to do so if it wasn’t for their rich relatives
Tell me you know nothing about how hard it is to become a model without telling me@@emryborge7027
The blouse you’re wearing is gorgeous, what a beautiful color!
thank you🥰
I think its a big problem that people in different art spaces set making money as their goal instead of creating something worth calling an art piece
some of them really think they're making art, even when they don't ahahah
UGH! Lisa your hairs always soooo goood!*.*
I absolutely adore your channel! This video is so on point! Honestly I think why nepotisim has been SUCH a problem in the entertainment industry now, because there has been so many scandals! Non nepo or connected individuals have been speaking out about it. (Like model Owen Mooney who was SA by Alexander Wang, Gemma Ward etc.) If someone's family is already in the status quo, they don't have care about how they act, it's easy to like shut away bad behavior and sweep under the rug for awhile or just quietly buy them off... There's so many reasons why the ET industry has been on this bandwagon, but I digress. This video is going in my favorites for sure, because you hit so points Lisa!
The way your feeding my attention span with those runway videos playing on the side
ate 👏 the way this poison it's in every fkn field like, i have two cousins who wanted to be a pilots, one of them is the same class as me (middle lower class) and the other comes from a wealthy bg; guess which one spent years studying and taking loans but never got to be a pilot having to work other shit and prob being depressed for the rest of his life and which one got in without even an interview and is a pilot to this day, and it happened to me as well but in the arts field so...
That 99' Betsy Johnson show rocks and still looks relevant. Playful and fun - love her and classic alexander mcqueen
I love when people deflect nepotism with “My (insert relative/family friend here) had nothing to do with it. We grew up like very middle class.” LIKE THAT STILL DOESN’T NEGATE THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE.
Equally as worse are those self-righteous people who think that their geography and not being directly associated with a famous person alters their privileged existence. Romanticising poverty is not the flex we think it is.
Nicole Kidman didn't throw her to the wolves. The internet forgets things easily. Give it 2/3 years and the internet will love her daughter again. I remember when everyone was hating on Addison Rae's lack of talent when she debuted in the music industry and now everyone loves her again. All you need to do is be relevant. So Nicole got it right. Her nepo baby has a long career ahead of her.
well she would have a long career ahead of her either way, nothing she does will hinder it
You have gone in great depth to dig further into the conversation of the nepo babies crises. Most of us just gloss over the subject and get upset, you brought it to every one attention that it is a bigger crises of nepotism in the world economy, government and social classism. Congrats on your amazing journalism skills. I have worked in the beauty industry for over 35yrs and saw first hand in the makeup industry how many levels and forms of nepotism exist. Your right it’s not the most talented that gets rewarded is the ones with the money who steel your or others creativity that make it big.
pretty much all of the issues you described in the modeling industry are present in the the architectural field as well
yeah, it's literally everywhere:(
The world used to operate nearly exclusively this way (aristocratic rule, etc.). If the general public willingly allow their tastes to be dictated by media and internet search engines, so be it. But of the downstream effects of such adoption at scale, the art world suffering talentless/corrupted individuals really must be the most superficial aspect of this concern.
side note: I think miu miu is seriously over-rated. This show features clothing that only looks good on anorexic women and unflattering to any healthy female body. See how many celebs they had? Hillary Swank and Cara Delavine walked, too. They're trying to distract us from this uninspired, boxy 70's/scifi recycle plus gaudy costume jewelry and fake bra "slips" for manufactured "shock value".
This show is so out-of-touch from what women want to look like and aspire to. There is nothing lovely or inspiring in this collection. This is what it looks like when you're so rich you lose your humanity. Hunger-games, indeed.
01:00 No but why those shorts lookin so uncomfortable in the MiuMiu fashion show 😭🏳️also maybe its just me but half of the models kinda look sick (sickly palish) 😢 or maybe its just the make up idk
Edit: I'm one of those attention deficit kids 😆🙌 ty for adding the clips~😊
eating poorly isn't great for you, so that might be a part of it
As a creative person, I think creativity as a whole suffers if people get unearned seats. GOT, an enormously popular series, was destroyed by Benioff and Weiss. Sam Levison sunk Euphoria. A ton of the bad content we see today was nepobabies. And people like Nara Smith/Levinson, born into wealth already, got even richer plagiarizing ACTUALLY self-made, talented people from poorer backgrounds.
The amount of nepotism in politics, government positions, medical practices, colleges (think the Kennedy’s/Trumps) CASTE is a REAL ISSUE !!!
This is so true and another aspects is that small business and brands specially in fashion do not have the money to trademark and patent their brands and designs which would give them a legal protection, because is an expensive process and you usally would need a lawyer. Not to mention modeling is so dangerous, men and women are exposed to sex trafficking/abuse with little to no protection from the agencies. There is a model Who is trying to pass legislation to protect models in the U.S you should research that, if passed could be the beggining of change.
Many points hitted me so hard, girl
I'm trying to build a stylist carrier. I have a job to pay bills and rent (so i can stay in the city where something's going on), i take clients on my weekends. I barely had nice peacfull sleep from march to mid august this year, worked for free on several projects and making costumes out of my personal stuff. I'm a self taught specialist, who still tries to learn and understand art better. I'm burned out before i even reached something. I hate my bills-to-pay job and too tired for one i was passionate about. No extra money whatsoever
And knowing more about the industry gets me sometimes thinking "Wow, even if i would made something out of it, I'm a useless clown who do nothing important, it's just clothes 🤡"
But i support small creators around, cause what they do is meaningful to me
Never mind nepo baby models, I am worried about the model at 1:59 and the curvature of her spine.
good lord, your frustration about this is really coming through when you talk and i agree so fucking much. you're right, it's not just in the fields of art and entertainment, this is everywhere, it's pervasive as hell. everywhere you go you see mediocre people acting like (and sometimes even believing) that they're the shit, and they just get platformed by the public for no reason because the problem is that non of them know to identify who is and isn't the shit. that's just the whole problem. media is just so easily accessible to almost everyone now that everyone gets to comment their opinion on it regardless of whether they actually have good taste or not and everyone's forced to listen to it too because of the nature of social media now. earlier, when not everything was so accessible to everyone, u actually had to rely on people who are experts or at least somewhat knowledgeable in a field to judge how good something is. not to defend steve jobs but one thing he was right about was that not everyone has good taste and so only the ones who do should be designing stuff. and honestly, if people weren't so confident that the throngs of tasteless accounts will like and repost their similarly mediocre content, they wouldn't have the audacity to put trash like that out to the world.
it's driving me insane. i'm in commerce/business and the current atmosphere in here is just unbelievably soul crushing. just churning out a bunch of accountants and wanna-be entrepreneurs with half-baked efforts, half-baked ideas, half-baked principles (where the half baking is done by some AI no less) who have no more than surface level knowledge in the field they're supposed to be experts in and wouldn't have gotten hired by a half-decent company in any other era of human civilization. and it's not just people doing it themselves, we are actually encouraged to have this kind of an attitude by our mentors and teachers. i wanna get the fuck out of here but where is better?? it's all one big hellscape of mediocrity and as you said, there's no way to "fix" this and i have no idea how we as a generation are gonna move on as from this situation.
I hope you feel better soon! I agree that this is just a symptom to a larger issue that has gone unaddressed.
In my opinion. Its the top 10 percent hiring the top 10 percent. If they want to see new and unique worked actually hard for this then we should start supporting smaller designers more and they could hold shows. Kinda like independent films and how they are some of the best films out there.😊
i just have to say that i'm obsessed with your set up here, the lights in frame + the colours in the shot
I remember Lisa's old video about morals of art industry and wish for contributing to the society in more meaningful way. Back then I was more angry and kinda ok with art being meaningless, good only for artist themself. Yet i guess I healed cause mb would have been great to be doctor or engineer or i dunno even cop (even tho they suck). Mb in perfect solarpunk world people would be studying in meds or doing something mandatory for society and art would be something less capitalized, just for community building or therapy etc. I guess we still can volunteer or just be decent people, but idk if it enough for contribution. Art is not evil, evil are people that hoarding all our resources and making everything to make us suffer.
not a cop though babe ahaha teacher, architect, cook... anything that creates instead of destroys
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I'm a psych major (in Türkiye) and in my field nepotism is nearly everything. Even when you study, you have to try to know people who can make you accepted to jobs and internship. This is especially hard because there are no such "parties" (there are some educational things like symposiums) , but you can make yourself known to proffessors and climb the ladder through them.
I mean yes, art and particularly modeling industry is terrible and there is a lot nepotism that runs the industry. But the problem is not only nepotism and nearly all industries/fields have it.
thank you sincerely for making this video, (as an eastern european) feels like i'm going crazy out here :,c
Watching all these people not realize that everyone they look at, designers, photographers, artists - all of them are a symptom of what’s wrong beyond the ent industry
It would be funny if it wouldn’t be depressing
The truth is that as a species we have always been nepotistic in nature and shallow at that..But the reality is the world was so far apart so these cracks were not evident until today.Via modernism and technology ..The sad thing is ,how much longer in this day and age can this shallowness last before it's weak foundation , we've built as the frame work to life/for life etc..gives way and crumbles..I can't help it's inevitable especially if you add Geo-Politics into the mix and not just the lack of human spirit , without abashment/shame but portrayed Narcissistically as strength. The way to be ,which is to be desensitised to everything /anything barring self and self interest..etc....Whats that saying?" Nice Guy's Finish Last!"It seems we've been conditioned to be this way..A really thought provoking video and I'm glad this imbalance within the art world and society in general is being if not addressed really scrutinised..Because from here starts the change and addressing?..A really good vid..Thanks for sharing..
This privilege can feel frustrating to those who don’t have such advantages and must work harder to succeed.
Agree, it’s not about nepo babies, it’s about money and connections. I remember seeing interview with Tom Hiddlestone where he was talking about how difficult to get the job, and my eyebrows flew over the roof when he said he was walking in a park for hours near his apartment at the center of LONDON.
Like, I get it, he’s talented and super cool actor, but he had the privilege to try again and again to get the job without thinking about money every second.
Thank you so much! I've been thinking this since forever. Finally someone actually talks about it. The country I'm from took bribes for better grades. There are even rumors that if you go to university there, you'll have to at least bribe a professor once. It's really sad.
I'm not saying where I work but basically it's a very small department somewhere in an important institution that contributes to the fundaentals of society, and the shit I've heard about people getting certain roles due to the most menial of things, like yes relationships but also HOW THEY LOOK it's worth shitting yourself. There are lots of vital roles, and if there's an inch of public forwardness or even the possibility of your picture being in the public, they will consider the appearance of a person. And ageism, yes it works both ways, but I've seen the reason WHY all of these older ladies in the office get mad over the apperance of other women and where their snickers come from: Men in power are completely ignoring these highly intelligent and stabilized women in favour for someone they want to look at. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum, and the things i've been offered with the pretense that I could date them or somesort of projection onto me of how good they'll look next to me, it's just such a distraction from what I am trying to do with my life. I want to learn and do things the right way, I cannot find the belief in me that some people are so spoiled as to just take something like OPENING FOR PRADA as unserious to not prepare for it. Nepo babies believe because they have good taste and connections that they can replicate the years worth of practice and education, and it's not true, never will be true, and honestly radicalising. Thank you from the dearest piece of my heart for adding to the conversation
When Lisa's making points, i don't need anything for my attention span ❤
Nepotism only drives me to appreciate and search more for small creators and purchasing more from small artists and business! We can do our little part on this, it matters to those trying to succeed in such a hostile society.
LOVE this framing and editing!
I wouldnt even be that mad at nepotism if it just helped you get your foot in the door since that's just networking but the fact that it gets you hired, promoted and better paid than everyone else...
OML WE NEED A VID TALKING ABOUT FEMALE RAGE, LUV UUUUU ❤❤❤
What I learnt from watching the models is that I never want miumiu shoes, looks like no kne can walk in them.
It is a problem in every field. The parents’ money and connections will get you there no matter what you choose for a career. If the job holds any prestige, it is packed with nepo babies. The sooner you realize and accept that meritocracy is a lie we are fed with, the less disappointment you’ll have to suffer.
The difference in the walks from the miu miu show to the Betsy Johnson 99 one …..
It was like a breath of fresh air. I miss the 90s for so many reasons.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR A VIDEO ABOUT NEPOTISM MODELS
hi Lisa! As always, the production quality is top tier, the glimmer effect is stunning and the way you present ideas with so much nuance is refreshing!! speaking of smaller artists you follow and admire, would you mind sharing a couple of them? i'd love to see what kind of art resonates with you!
I mostly support people who I became friends with who are artists, but those people who work online and you guys can find - I should make a list of them and post it somewhere or make a video on it
@@LisaFevral Please do!! I’ll look forward to it❤️
off topic but the 28 reasons poster🤩🤩
I think one of the reasons why I loved my college experience was because so many women (I went to an all-women's college) at my alma mater were not privileged princesses and nepo babies. You got as far as your talents, skills, and work ethic could take you. Sadly, it's not like this in the real world.
As a model agent I can say why I’m so pissed off: these celebrity kids are taking places of girls, who HAVE to pay their bills, to help their parents, who maybe spent their last money to come to Paris and rent a shitty apartment just to got a chance on FW casting and get a better life - nepo babies are taking away their chances for better life, tho they themselves don’t really need these jobs - they already have all the money. Ima sorry for being dramatic here, but I’m working with models every day and my heart really sinks to see how the industry’s changing - less and less jobs cause a lot of places are RESERVED for celebrities kids on the runway. Tho I’m fully aware why brands are doing it
First the celebs took the magazine covers, now they're taking the runway.
In the scheme of things, nepotism is one of the least silly, annoying, and harmful things about the fashion industry.
Lisa I’m glad you said this people care so much about insignificant gossip things and discuss it until the ends of times while actual impactful choices are being made but you’ll never see the internet discussing those issues
I totally agree to your point I generally wished this discourse would lead more people to realize how almost scarily nepotism has taken over every job from corporate level to entry level to even small indie businesses it feels like unless you have a impressive self made resume or is connected to someone or a group of people to your job you can’t get a regular job now a days. I think besides the cultural obsession of celebrity and the entertainment industry, another factor to why nepotism in entertainment/arts hyper-focused is bc of how much of the world has viewed having a lifetime career in the arts as not a serious job the way having a similar job position in medicine/heath, business, criminal law, food service, etc are looked at so it easily becomes exclusive and as a result it becomes one of those industries that you can’t just get in for the hell for it, once you get it, you gotta make sure you succeed or have sustainability to it, so it’s easily hard and difficult but to make it harder by bringing nepotism and elitism it’s gonna bring a massive rage for a lot of people. It’s bad enough for longtime folks were told by family and friends that trying to be a dancer, model, writer or actor is completely unrealistic bc to a certain extent it is but then you make more realistic by creating this massive caste system between the common folks VS those were families are already in the game or people who come from wealth to not worry about the hardship years of grinding. It’s says something how crazy the arts have increasing become inaccessible to anyone who isn’t well connected or come from wealth, you can trace this back to the 1980s thanks to western politicians like Ronald Reagan and Marge thatcher who cut programs and bills that were meant to give proper education and easier access to the arts and the years/decades of capitalism, neo liberalism and unfortunate events (Wall Street crash in 2008 and miss Rona for the 2020s) lead to where we are right now.
hahaha yes all through college i was thinking i was going to go into film/video production of some kind then i realized i would much rather be a teacher than put up with the politics of trying to "make it" in that way. but teaching is insane and im not even sure its worth it with the way public education is right now. idk which would be more fun/less existentially stressful
This is one of the best essays I've listened to ever,? It sayd everything ive winderexsbout snf felt qbout all of this but could not articulate. Its so important for people to hear what u are saying abd understand that its the truth
I remember those shows where the Buzz came from the decor and creativity, not the celebs walking the show. They had trains, buildings, or complete furnished rooms as decor, etc. And the models were giving a nice show. Now, all I see is boring runways, and models in need of antidepressants by the looks and walks they give on the runway.... :S
This might be annoying but I rlly love your taste in art and gg’s and im pitching that you and bississant do a vid where its building the idea of a girl group from the ground up like concept , members , member positions , creative direction , music genre. And it could be a band even and then show each other or do a poll for the winner
ooohhh that's a cool idea!
Thanks for pointing out runway isn't paid. Lot of people on reddit talking about runway budget going to models. LOL. Anyway, NYC here, 8 years of runway and NYFW. Yep, you only make it if you can afford to be broke forever. Most of the top VS girls lived with my friend Eric who has a "model apartment" - really he just brings girls to the club and gets paid for it every night, and models in NYC who cannot afford it get a free ride as long as they show up to the club. Really dark industry.
I don’t know if that can ever be fixed , that disparity is what that world thrives on especially in the world of modelling. If u are poorer u definitely will be taken advantage of by the industry and be overworked and treated worse. After all what incentive do these people in charge have to treat u well? You’re not Nicole Kidman or Kate Mosses daughter.
I know in a couple years her daughter is going to give a Kendall , lily rose Depp or Kate Hudson level take in interview going “this runs in my blood I had no leg up at all you guys are just poor , hateful and jealous of me 🥺 I’m just strategic and hardworking!”
it can't be changed in modelling alone(in isolation). It will change however, if the we build an entirely new system.