4WD Mini Rock Bouncer Build Suzuki SV 650 Part 5
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- Today I'm working on getting the suspension setup. For this project I'm using the Fox 2.0 Air shocks. These are air only shocks and can be made hard or soft just by adding more nitrogen pressure. The fox air shocks are super easy to adjust and really light weight, perfect for these smaller projects but they can also work well in jeeps and other light rock crawlers. King air shocks are also a great option if your build is like mine, but I feel like the Fox airs have a better factory valving setup. The Fox air shocks should go together really well with the mini rock bouncer as that's really what they were designed for.
Let me know what you guys think about the switch over to Fox Air Shocks instead of Coil overs Like I've been using?
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Best part of my Sundays is watching your videos.
I seriously recommend that you put some suspension in the seat if it’s going to be a rock crawler.
If you come down off a rock and land on the frame you could do your back in.
I have made seat suspensions out of old valve springs and half a leaf spring in the past to excellent effect.
Please see this comment! There have been MANY back injuries in the southern rock racing bouncers from hard bounces on the frame, or even just serious landings right on the wheels. On incident comes to ming... I think that was the driver of "ol nine fingers"
Cole Shirley (MadRam11) and or Matt from BustedKnuckle are great channels to watch for some good examples
I always thought suspension in the seat frame will actually compress the spine more then a proper suspension(think Master craft etc) seat. There's a reason baja teams don't use suspension in the seat frames.
@@michaelhumpherys1577 Baja isn't rock crawling.
There is very little likelihood of slamming the frame straight down hard from height in a Baja style race. The shocks and springs are meant to take up all the bumps so it's like you're floating over the road, not that I'd trust my spine to that theory though
if you have watched him lift anything you'd know he loved destroying his back lol
Such a cut-up.You practically had us in stitches.Welder And comedian.Who'da thought?
Obviously anyone that works in most any type shop will get cuts, burns, scrapes, busies, and pains of all types. It is all part of doing work. You simple fix the blood draining and carry on... Thumbs Up
I love your evolutionary approach to vehicle design, it doesn't make a perfect vehicle but it certainly makes a unique one
Sometimes I think where are you going with this and seeing where you end up is not what I was thinking. Love it🤔🤔🤗🤗
My understanding of the ring on the shocks is to be a travel indicator. Used to help you adjust your nitrogen pressures based upon how the suspensions is working, the ring gives an indication of the max compression reached during test runs.
Ok, that makes sense
That’s right. We used the same thing on motorcycles when setting up the suspension for racing. After a couple of hit laps, take a look at how far down the o-ring or zip tie or whatever has been pushed. Not just for spring rate (CO2 or nitrogen pressure in these shocks) but valving as well. You can have a soft spring rate, but firm enough valving to keep them from bottoming out.
It feels a bit like watching the orange county motorcycle builds, but without the drama and war between father and son. Luckily, with as much welding, piping and cool build results!
Pirate sounds and a build! ALRRRRRRRIGHT!
Love it!
Its gonna be a BEAST! I hope you encase those clutches with a lot of metal!
Correct me if I’m wrong but wouldn’t you want to set the height of the bump stops with a tiny bit of travel left in the shocks so that the suspension isn’t already fully bottomed out by the time it reaches the bump stops?
i was legit gonna say the same thing here lol yes your correct, raise front end 2 inches, install bump stops, then they will actually work when bottoming out lol
Was going to say the same thing...
yes, but he can always add spacers too
Correct. If you leave some travel in the shock you can put the bump stop wherever you like.
My bump stops are a stiff rubber 2" band around the shock shaft. Simpler
The bump stops have got adjustment on them
I like the fact that you do everything so meticulously.
Dont you dare stoping the project,, you shall work on it night and day 🥺♥️
@Big time Entertainment 🙂
I was kinda disappointed at the first couple of videos but duuude seriously this is going way too AWESOME its finally got a shape and it looks SICK! Can't wait to see it drives!
Those loops at the bottom of the front suspension mounts are going to need bracing, they're canted outwards so as the front shocks compress the weight is going to force those already canted loops outwards even further and will eventually break them.
Im so glad someone finally built a mini rock bouncer, love the project!
Use shock tube bump stops, this will protect the socks from damage due to excessive compression.
Was just about to post this, my Ryft has shock bump stops. Don't see why that wouldn't have them for full scale.
I think you are talking about shock "shaft" bump stops. You have to have a thick washer for them to contact that sits on the rod end. Some shocks come with them already. And limit straps are a must also. Have to protect the shocks at both ends of their travel.
This is a good idea. I hadn't thought of this.
@@speedmaverick I think hes talking about air bumps. They're little shocks that replace the rubber bumpers
I'm truly amazed at your fabricating skills. After seeing you pick that machine up with your body, I'm now amazed at your strength 💪. I'm glad you ripped that bumpstop off with your bare hands on the second attempt. I knew that you could do it. If not today, I was sure that you could the first thing in the morning when you were fresh. I'm truly impressed and amazed and can't wait to see it go. My hats off to you sir!
This is the fastest big build to be out the shop
Totally looks like Formula 1 seating position! Very cool!
Looking good. For a bump stop how about a healthy rubber donut around the shaft of the shock. 👍👍👍
Finally! You actually got some FOX Racing shocks for a build! Can't wait to see how these turn out. Going to get some for my Badland ST2-LT buggy that I'll hopefully start building next year.
Hope to see you finish this build soon I've enjoyed it and after watching you work on this build it inspired me to start one of my own thank you
Nice work !
But for the axle construction I would have preferred Suzuki rigid axles (SJ413).
The Variomatic is also not suitable for a rock bouncer.
I would have used the Suzuki transmission.
It would have been cheaper too!
Greetings Thilo Schieschke.
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Almost magical how he puts these together. First we see tires, motor and a couple tubes laying on the floor. And then he is driving it and fixing a few problems! But then, we didn't weld, grind and wrench on it for months like Chris did... 😎
Hi
Just a suggestion: you should look for Suzuki DL camshafts for the engine. Same engine but more torque down there to not hit that rev limiter all the time later on. Also a power commander again for more torque. For a crawler/bouncer should be needed.
I've been watching your channel for quite a while, I can only imagine the stuff you'll be doing ten years from now!
You and grind hard plumbing co are stepping up you suspension game
I thought the exact same thing 😂
Grind hard plumbing co is way better this guy
@@emanuelmason7651 their's builds are definitely crazy but rather b welding is still pretty cool
@@emanuelmason7651 Both are equally as incredible in their own ways
Also consider ditching the secondary clutch for a small solid pulley. Youd gain leg room and you still have primary clutch that will engage the belt. Plus having solid secondary pulley is going to keep wheel speed down as rpms go up witch is what you’ll want in rock crawling.if you do stick with that big secondary then pull it apart and the coil spring inside will have 3-8 positions. Set it in the tightest position will help
Your Skills and the
Level of builds have been
advancing drastically!
Very Very
Impressive Chris!
Can’t wait to see this beast
in Action!
I Always look forward to
your next video. 👍🏼
You should consider getting a jegs or summit full back plastic race car seat with a padded cover. That thing is going to toss you all over the place and upper body support and neck support might be a good idea. Toss in a nice 5 point harness too. Sweet build man great work!
Omg that frame is beautiful 😍. Love the front end
The front looks so aggressive I love it!
There ya go... leaving your DNA in your project. A 1000 years from now, when they dig this beast up, they are going to think it was a cyborg machine. :)
I was unsure for awhile, but, this thing is starting to look like a rock bouncer!
Awesome content! Love this channel! Don’t break your back Chris, we need you healthy here!
Hello, I am from Iran. I like your work very much. I also like to be like you
That o ring on the shock shaft is for you monitor the travel by moving it up and seeing how close to bottoming you are when cycling the suspension
The build is looking good. It’s starting to look like something darkwing duck would drive but I love it
Dude dont put this to the side!! Coolest Project to date!!!!!
Looking good! I like several of your ideas that you are chasing. I would definitely plate the U that you did for the front shocks (I think it looks great in the front). For the bump stops, I think that you are over building them & that is what is getting in the way. Put it on the end of a stick of tube & then support the tube then it would move with the shock & never change!!
Great job as always. You'll get the bump stops figured out. They need to be high enough so they bottom out before suspension.
Thanks for saving my sunday night!
The front end looks like a rhinoceros viper. It's a snake with horns on its nose.
Looks awesome!
You could build tubestops. You take a tube and a rod, put it aligned with the shock and they can bottom out before the shocks :)
Love the build! Been waiting patiently!
Lift with your feet, your back is the most important thing you own. Once you break it, you won't ever be the same. Trust me.
True story!
He doesn't listen. we've told him many times before. He has to think he's superman or something at this point. I hope it doesn't take back surgery to make him listen
Yep I know I need to stop doing that, I guess I’m just stubborn
@@ratherBweldingChris treat your back with an overload of respect. I didn't, and now have to carry the burden for the rest of my life... Which means constant pain. These guys are more right than you can ever imagine. Stubborn is no excuse :-)
@@ratherBweldingChris You're young, that's all, all us guys think we are indestructable when we are young. If I had listened to the old guys more growing up, I would be in better shape now lol
This build looks amazing! I can’t wait for the day I get to build a good quality machine like the stuff you build.
Man, I can't wait to see the finished product! This thing is looking awesome!
I love your builds and your neighbors.
I’m really liking the way that frame is turning out!!
Always anticipating your next video. Great work.
Awesome camera work and editing. Some of the best I've seen on youtube. Also great content. Looking forward to next episode.
So awesome. So really wish front suspension pitched in at the top. Would give it tgat sick aggressive look vrs how you have them more straight up and down. If you get that front suspension pitched in at the top then you got the sickest rock crawler/bouncer I may have ever seen. Like sickest and fact it’s a mini even sicker.
One note from an SV650 owner. SV650 engines have an oiling issue where at high inclined angles, the oil will slosh to the back of the motor and it will loose oil pressure. It is a known issue and why you don't see the SV650 doing long wheelies.
That in mind, my recommendation is to make sure you reattach the oil pressure warning light if you plan on doing any steep climbs and keep the oil full.
awesome looking Buggy ,great Build .
You can move the rubber part of the bump stop down to the suspension and have it contact the frame from underneath.
Can’t wait to see a test ride video 😁
Don’t, I love this man but he’s an idiot running the torque converter setup
It looks great boss don’t second guess your self
That thing is awesome! Kinda looks like a horned viper
Killer job man! Loving how it coming together!
I'm so happy it's coming together, I look forward to seeing this beast roll!😁🤘
I’m looking forward to seeing this one built buddy
Very interesting video bro.... One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man.😃
I would have only let the nitrogen out of one shock and used it to mock up all for corners if concerned about what may happen to them. Or better yet, used some tubing cut to the compressed length. Then the shocks could have been installed and all had pressure to begin with. I do understand that you wouldn't be able to flex and move it with tubing in place, but suspension is expensive! Looks great and it will stiffen up a lot once fully welded for those that saw chassis flex. Can hardy wait to see how it all functions when completed.
Best looking build yet simple and clean you do such amazing and mind blowing stuff dude keep up the amazing work been here since the beginning
Its looking awesome!! Can't wait to see it out ripping the trails. It looks alot cooler than you think 👌👌💯
Plate in the upper link mounts and put the bump stops there maybe. Basically move them rearward an inch or 2. Progress looks good
This thing is going to rip with the SV650. The first time I heard the beautiful song of the legendary RC51 😍 Nothing comes close to a big thumper. But just to be safe from a possible lack of power issue you didn't consider using the TL1000 engine? That would have been freaking nutty. Only one way I know how to learn stuff in life. Always next build when we get use to it and it's not as fun anymore. Lol
Looks like predator out of the movie from the side... greets from germany
you can,t stop now as you started this where all into it now and i for want to see it get done now
The bouncer is starting to look more like something from Mad Max ,Fantastic😎😎😎🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I built a Rorty R21 buggy like that using fox airs. You are most likely not gonna need bump stops. The air spring rate goes way up the more compressed they are. put a zip tie on them when tuning to see how much travel you use. Add shock oil till the bottoming goes away.
Amazing content as always. Really looking forward to seeing this running.
So I’ve been thinking, I know a lot of folks don’t think the cvt setup will work but it might help take some of the shock out of the drive line and help keep the tiny diffs alive.
This build is awesome! Cant wait to see how it all comes together!
You NEED to have bump stops and strap or you will destroy the shocks. You also need to move the roll cage on the sides up so you can get in and out easier.
cant wait for the test drive
I would recommend some limiting straps to make sure you dont rip apart the shocks when fully extending the suspension when jumping or something
Hey, i just wanna let you know that thanks to you i bought a 200cc engine from a crsshed bike to build something, i still havent decided what but its gonna be epic ( at least for me)
You could always put the bump stops on the shock. Take the bottom off and slide a bump stop on the rod.
Looking Awesome brother! You've come so far along my Man! You've got natural born artistic and fabrication abilities, a little weak on the engine mechanical troubleshooting, but your more than capable of figuring shit out which one of those attributes most people do not posses. Be proud and remember no matter how much we know, we will never know everything..... Awesome videos and very interesting for someone who shares the same similar traits in life. Keep em comin bro!
That thing is going to be bad ass
I'm hoping you'll make some modifications to the wheelie kart. Just a couple mods and you can get some more smiles with that beast.
Bump stops last, after it’s running. Get it twisted up good and then measure to make sure things don’t interfere.
Hey man... in reference to those last few seconds of video:
one tool that people don't think of for your shop... Always have super glue! :)
Your stuff is looking so good!!!
Thing looks fast just sitting still but definitely ready for some more cbr 1000 ride videos
It might sound weird but i think you should make the top lift up to get in and out but I can’t wait to see the finished product
More space upfront is great for cooling and rad stuff
Addicted to your channel always sit back with a strong cuppa enjoy 😉 Do you always work alone?
Yep I work better when I’m alone with my music
Awesome build!!!!
Bump stops on the rear look easy enough on that bar over the diff.
Really looking forward to seeing this one run. I hope you're going to flip the tires on the rims on the left side so they all roll in the proper direction.
Ouch. That was the sharp edge on the tube after you notched it. Gotta hit those with a flap disc and knock that knife edge off.
Love your stuff
This thing is going to be awesome.
Loving this build so far! Few things I have noticed is the tire tread is wrong on left side of the machine, it's directional and these tires are on the wheels backwards. Your leg is laying on top of the CVT, but I would assume you are building a guard for this, but still your leg will be there if you blow up a belt. Lastly, the seating position laying down will make it harder to see the trail when you are riding.
He said the tires were going to bug him since the first video of this build but the shop people weren't very nice and were super busy so he said he would fix it later lol I've been there before
i think the front roll bar height is tight, be a squeeze getting out if the engine caught fire but looks mean proper shocks 2 👍
You should put some driveshaft loops so in case you break an axle it stays within the loop and doesn’t beat the crap out of every all your suspension parts
This looks awesome, keep it up Chris!! :)