I remember my old Omen laptop's 170watt (something around that) powerbrick and it was like a 20x10x3cm slab. Perfect for keeping your feet warm though XD
I was trying to figure if dropping the psu so its not drawing air from the cpu in these new aged gaming builds come with any negatives for the way computers just work. and then i realized in laptops. the psu doesnt even draw air AND its not even in the case. lol.
@@TheFutureTech I owned some version of that model line! First gaming lappy I ever had; about...12-13 years ago? Bright (BRIGHT) red chassis, 18.4-inch beast. Loved it at the time, wished it wasn't so goddamned bright red, though. Good times. ;)
I wish they had the option to set it to a higher fps, like maybe up to 120hz max because battery boost really improves noise levels even when plugged in.
@@dreamcat04 But it would massively reduce power when plugged in, which saves energy and decreases noise. I manually limit my fps in games on my current laptop which kind of works, but whisper mode seems to be more than just a simple fps cap because it also seems to automatically under volt. Under volting my rtx 3070 ti laptop is already overpowered because I still get impressive performance, but I can barely hear it right next to me without a headset, like I almost have to actively tying to listen for the fans to hear them. I have never seen a gaming experience like this be so power efficient and quiet. Now being able to do all of that without any extra tweaking at the literal flip of a switch, it's essentially like cheating at that point.
@@_shadow_1 60FPS is the max as its designed for use with running on battery, if you want 120fps with lower fan noise use Whisper mode which should be in GFE as an option or in the Nvidia control panel
Having played the game, the 1-2 seconds freeze is expected in any pc config. I have them every now and then but other than that it's smooth. It's an early access game btw
@@maxdubois6385 I've just been playing it and got some stutters on my laptop (3070 + i9) but it plays pretty smooth for an early access game. I've played a LOT worse🤣
@@Holycurative9610 Yeah tbh it's awesome but there are some real punishing mechanics i.e. losing your equipped stuff in such a way that you gotta farm items from lower tiers just to get back in shape OOF
@@de_stroyed I've never installed GeForce Experience, I just install the drivers (There is no way I'm making an account and be required to have internet access to just use a driver). It's crazy to me that it would knee-cap performance that much without notifying the user in some way (some UI pop-up of whatnot). I would think it was a firmware issue as well. Granted, I would probably do a clean install of windows when I got the laptop, anyway.
You guys have to make a ShortCircuit shirt that says "Love to see it" with Alex's stylized face. A quote, a review and marketing all in one sentence. If you dont think that's an awesome idea I will come over there and throw a tantrum until you make the right decision.
My 17x (RTX 4080 + 13900HX) with the highest "Creator" and "Turbo" mode are so conservative that It never allows my CPU to reach any temp over 69c. As soon as it its 70c, I get the wattage reduced. Gigabyte needs to re evaluate these thermal settings and at the very least allow it to hit 90 or 95c. This is ridicules. It's not letting the 13900HX run!
I have the Aorus 15p Xd and love it. The only downside so far is 90° + CPU temps almost immediately after running games, so I have to run the fans at 100% to keep my temps cool. But I'd rather replace my fans once a year than my motherboard.
Is that normal for your model? You could maybe try undervolting if you have enough CPU headroom because there's also a possibility where you don't need to replace anything.
@_Shadow_ For whatever reason, the Intel extreme program stops working after installing the 22H2 update. So only after a stock reset can I run those settings. I've tried fixing it, but it's beyond my abilities.
@@mr.fuscles The reason why bring it up is that my CPU is a i9-12900h in an otherwise very similar laptop both in size and specs and I don't see anything like that even if I stress it. I think it does use liquid metal, but that shouldn't make that much of a difference.
@@JagsP95 it's something that's just nice to have even ARC GPUs have it, lol Thing is dp 2.0 is less limiting than HDMI 2.1 when it comes to available bandwidth Might not be useful on lower tier cards, but this is a 4090, remember, you're not buying this if you aren't an enthusiast
There is really something very important in laptops and it is their useful life. Not in terms of it becoming outdated, that happens in everyone, the important thing is the breakdowns, that the monitor breaks and you are left without a laptop, or that it burns. That is one of the main things to consider in such expensive laptops. I would like a video about that, that talks about old laptops and if they continue to work without faults today, to find out which are the best brands in duration and few faults. all the best.
Make sure you let people know that depending on the sku, laptop brands can neuter the 4090 and a 4080 with more power budget can beat the 4090. This is also a warning to those wanting a powerful laptop. Make sure you know how much they've REALLY allocated to the GPU to ensure that you're going to get everything you paid for.
Anyone buying a laptop with a 4090 or 4080 are already not getting what they paid for because no matter what power they use it is not really those gpus 😂
Ive had windows hello recognition since 2020 with my Alienware 51m R2(10900k/2080Super). Which comes with a "Tobi-Eye Tracker" bar under the screen. I love it bc it has a feature where whenever you press whatever keybind you want(Alt by default) it automatically jumps your mouse arrow to wherever your eyes are looking. Prob sounds nothing to write home about but its one of those "once you use it your hooked" type things, just makes multitasking and getting things done easier & faster. You can also take it a step further and turn on an option where as soon as you move your mouse it will also jump to where your eyes are looking. Its pretty cool, so basically you just look at whatever you want to click on and the second you go to move your mouse, it puts the cursor right onto it.
The fan noise is insane when you start gaming on it. Had to stop the video to check my headphones hadn't broken and developed some sort of white noise!
Very strange criticism regarding the lower gaming performance on battery. This has been a thing for forever; no one should be gaming on battery and even if you do it won't even last an hour.
I really don't think the gaming performance on battery matters on a gaming laptop. The battery life is so short while trying to game that it is not worth it to try to game unless you are connected to the wall. The way to think about high end gaming laptops is that they are two computers in one. They are a high end laptop on the one hand and on the other a legitimate replacement for a desktop. It just can't be both at the same time.
Pretty much how I use my 2022 G14. Docked performance is like any other gaming laptop, and battery performance is still more than enough for CAD work on the go. I can even get some lighter games going on battery because the iGPU is actually a little beast.
Agreed. With a laptop, you want at least 5 hours of battery life in browsing and video playback and at least an hour while gaming. And if the GPU pulls over 200W, you can do with a bit less on battery. But a bit more performance on battery than it gives now would probably be better. If it can still do that one hour of gaming that is.
@@DigitalJedi That's how my Blade 15 is. It is thin and light enough and gets sufficient battery life for me to do basic computing tasks. Then when I sit down at my desk and connect it to power it is faster than my old gaming desktop was. It is just like having two computers but only having to purchase one.
gotta love it when they say "you've never seen a power supply this dense" while my Alienware m17 power supply is sitting right next to me (also 330 watt)...
yo! I've got that same laptop! That thing's fantastic! I've been satisfied with the $ I spent on that ever since I got it 👍 I spent like $1,600 for an open box model from Best Buy and it felt like the steal of the century. I can easily see that laptop running for another 5-8 years no problem aside from replacing the battery at some point.
@@ArturoTabera A company the size of LMG definitely has some people who will browse the comment sections for a time after their videos are released, even if mostly for moderation.
I'm sure the backpack is built for 17" laptops like that, not so sure about the powerbrick though... It's also possible that on these sponsored videos that some companies may have a thing about other product placements.
@@benwu7980 I have the backpack, and I'm not sure it would fit. There's part of the cooler section that stick out from the back that would throw off dimensions. Also if they would do the backpack test for all laptops then it would just become a standardized test.
Can you guys start showing whether or not laptops fit in the LTT backpack? My 17 inch fits, but I'd like to see with each one you review. It's a great plug to the store, and it's SUPER important to anyone who shelled out for your backpack.
8:20 The staticy sound when you were playing the games plugged in, where did that come from? It stopped the moment you unplugged it. Fans? Interference from it drawing energy? It definitely didn't come from the games.
Honestly, that’s not what the XPS series is for. Their thin and light laptops for business people who run around a lot and the most demanding thing they ask for is a zoom meeting.
@@cfilorvyls457 if you’re dead set on that, which I sort of am, than your other option is Razer. Not an insane gamer aesthetic, but you actually get a real gpu, instead of Dell pretending that the 3060 is top of the line. The two major things to consider though, is the price can get pretty high (although I think xx60 to xx60, their close in price, it’s just that Razer starts at 60, whereas Dell ends at 60) and the thing is a lot thicker and a little heavier than a comparable XPS.
@@KentSpain85 those frames dropped may of been the autosave function of the game not so much the laptop itself. When that game does its autosave it does that to me and others. Its also a early access game so it has that against it to haha.
LMG luckily is big enough to decide which sponsorship to take and which to turn down. Linus definitely doesn't need to kiss Gigabyte's butt, so his condition is: we'll show it off, but only if we can talk about it honestly.
I'm not happy that you didn't go over thermals at all. Maybe there was some sort of NDA, but can you mention that? Because that's kind of important to know about I know it's not a review though, it's more of a showcase. So if not, fine... But I feel like even in a showcase that's important to know.
Gaming Labtops we're so compromised for a long time. But every review i see one i miss my old one that i actually took to friends places often. Looks like they aren't any lighter but they became insanely dense and sleak looking, so maybe also easier to transport. The older ones we're always bulky af.
This thing looks sweet, but after using a Gigabyte Aero for the past few years which has a similar keyboard layout, I would never do it again. I wish there was a version without the numpad layout and had the longer profile shift key. This style of keyboard is just not as comfortable to use as a layout that isn't squished to one side or the other.
The price of these laptops are heartbreaking. Kudos to those that can afford to own them without breaking the bank or having to sell their kidneys. Might just be me, I'd rather play older titles or give up gaming and put my money to better use.
I enjoy these reviews but it would have been better without the background music. It sounded as if the fans were blasting away when you hit 240 fps but the background music made it difficult to tell what we were hearing.
Wish Apple did that with their Keyboards, as there is always imprints on the screen panel which just means your display will be scuffed in no time. I had to put a screen protector on my M1 16 Pro
was gonna say I dont normally comment but yeah without 330 watt power brick the battery cant supply same power to GPU so of course its a big change, battery is just basically a ups with a gpu like that so you can get plugged in, just seemed bad to say it would get fixed later
Right when he unplugged the laptop I got a UA-cam ad for the very same laptop. The commercial featured these 360 swivel slow motion shots of people gaming over hip hop music. Trying to make them look cool for just sitting on their ass As soon as I could skip the ad I come back to the review and the music paired with the drop in FPS made for a hilarious If not serendipitous moment
NVIDIA this is not a 4090. Bring back the M designation for laptop GPUs (e.i. 980m). If you can't fit the same die as the desktop variant, don't call it the same way, it's deceptive, and you knew better in the past
Alex, It would be awesome if you could review some engineering laptops. I manage IT for a manufacturer that uses SOLIDWORKS and Catia extensively from electrical to mechanical to hydraulic design work. I'd love to save money on real estate by putting them on laptops vice workstation desktops. My only viable option I can see now is the MSI CreatorPro Z16p with the A3000 gpu
A couple years ago now I bought an MSI stealth 17.3" laptop with all of the same specs as the laptop linked in the description with the exception of the CPU and Graphics card. Mine has an I7 - 10th gen processor and an RTX 2060. I purchased it at a time when both of which were relatively new on the market for a total of $2100. Its crazy to me that its been between 3-4 years and a laptop with the newest CPU and Graphics card is now retailing for $3500 and we are willing to accept that. I do understand that 13th gen processors and the RTX 4000 series cards are significantly better, but in my personal opinion it's not $1400 price hike better. Good video nonetheless.
Do some back to back tests, bare desk (make sure it isn't sucking that deskpad into the vents), and 25mm/35mm feet in the back. You might be surprised at the temperature drop just from some rear feet. "Balanced" lets the GPU/CPU run as fast as possible considering the draw of the other. So putting it to other settings will keep performance down as it can't balance.
I use my laptop in bed so bought a cheap laptop tray from Amazon so the vents aren't sucking my duvet up and it drops temps by several degrees when playing Witcher 3.
Gigabyte has always had issues with firmware and software that never gets fixed. I bought an AERO 16 and their software is STILL extremely broken, and it looks like it was made by an intern. Not to mention, for the first few months it reduced the 99.9Wh battery life from 6-7hrs to 2hrs. I wouldn’t recommend their laptops unless they’re on deal. Buy ASUS or Lenovo instead.
I purchased an Aero 17 HDR XD a couple of years ago. It wasn't until recently that I discovered that the Control Center software Gigabyte bundled with the laptop was actually just destroying battery life. Since using AeroCntrl and disabling Control Center, my on battery sessions have gone up from 2.5 hours to 7.5 hours at 80% battery and 40% screen brightness, I was shocked that it was such a huge jump Edit: forgot to mention, apparently having recent Nvidia drivers can also impact battery life in big ways which sucks. I'm using the latest supported Nvidia studio drivers from gigabytes site to get the battery life that I'm getting currently but those are from the end of 2021, and that is a problem with these laptops for sure. Awesome hardware design in the laptop and I'm pretty happy with it overall but the software issues are so stupid, I'm thinking this laptop in the video is bound to face similar issues. I definitely think folks that want a gaming-first laptop should look elsewhere, even if there is a sale. x.x
@@theylienn Maybe that’s something I need to try - I used to disable GCC and the laptop would last much longer and be much cooler, nowadays it doesn’t seem to help much. Do you simply launch AeroCntrl and close GCC on startup every time?
@@malamucik2096 You’ll typically get a much better experience. I upgraded from an ROG Strix that never had any issues. Now i’m using my Gigabyte laptop the battery life is seemingly unpredictable, laptop gets hot for no reason, fan control occasionally doesn’t work, GCC will one day not work and needs to be reinstalled, and the update center will ‘update’ software by downgrading it to an older version (yes it’s THAT broken). I once updated my BIOS 3 times because GCC was telling me there were updates, till i realized it was trying to install an older version. Great hardware, great build quality, great screen, get value, ruined by its abysmal software. It really is a shame and I will not be buying another one. I simply don’t understand how Gigabyte is able to make a 99Wh battery last 2 hours on light use.
Please do a review of the Aorus 17H laptop. It's a more affordable version of the Aorus 17 lineup. In fact it's the cheapest RTX4080 laptop there is to my knowledge. It has a 360hz display too. Wow 😲 Another review I would like to see is the Asus strix 18 which is the second cheapest gaming laptop and has a i9 CPU and higher screen resolution then the Aorus 17H which in a 17 inch or 18 inch screen might not be an issue. I need help which one to choose to buy between these two laptops
I would wait. There's significant downgrades to a 4090 laptop vs 4090 desktop, with the biggest discrepancy I've seen in years. Hoping that gets fixed soon but tbh I think Nvidia is focusing on frame generation rather than pure hardware performance
Keep in mind this laptop costs around the same as a similar performing desktop with a 3090 from late 2020. But for laptops I think it's most reasonable to never go above a 70 series GPU. Any higher and you run into diminishing returns from wattage and heat restrictions.
In previous generation I 100% agree with you but for 40xx generation price difference between 4070 and 4080 not too high but there is about 40-50% gain in fps. Also imo its somewhat unreasonable to go for 4090 bc it it gives 10-20% gain and usually costs a lot more
I wonder if the issue with the higher-performance modes is thermals related. Moar power = moar heat, so maybe it's throttling due to sudden temperature increase? Interesting. What a beastly machine.
If that PSU is GaN I'm Queen Elizabeth the 3rd revenge of the Windsor. The ASUS Studiobook One with the rtx6000 had the 300w Nvidia PSU that was a quarter of the volume of this one
I hate how when razer sells you peripherals they aren't telling you theres 125hz at the keys and mousepad. So, you can't scale the gaming keyboard down. you just have to use both. While the mouse can change its polling rate to accommodate to the refresh rate of the 125hz keyboard. Confused yet? The monitors now come with variable refresh rates(gsync freesync) and adjustable refresh rates at the monitor.
Im pretty sure if you unplug the laptop it goes in a like silent mode which doesnt allow to clock the gpu high but if the software would work you could probably change that
Most laptops have where you can disable the 30fps “throttle” in the power settings if you want 10 minutes of battery life.
Yeah, it's changeable in NVidia GeGorce Experience. With my 1660Ti laptop, I can set it to up to 60FPS
@Michael Buy a desktop lmao? 😆
@Michael true
can the battery supply the 200-300w it needs to run the cpu and gpu on full boost
@@billyberner Desktops aren't portable.
That power adapter really puts the brick in powerbrick!
One would expect it to be a bit smaller being GaN and 330W. The 300W power bricks coming with Legion laptops are a comparable size but less thick.
I remember my old Omen laptop's 170watt (something around that) powerbrick and it was like a 20x10x3cm slab. Perfect for keeping your feet warm though XD
Ok generic comment!
I was trying to figure if dropping the psu so its not drawing air from the cpu in these new aged gaming builds come with any negatives for the way computers just work. and then i realized in laptops. the psu doesnt even draw air AND its not even in the case. lol.
Reminds me of the good old Xbox 360 power brick, almost.
That one was a doozy.
Used to have a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo laptop. That one was nearly 5KG. Having this much power in this formfactor is pretty amazing
Fujitsu made some pretty neat laptops at one point.
The Toshiba Qosmio x500-149 was shortly after at 4.6kg 18.4" display
It's smaller now. If you've seen the old model well it's a true brick.
@@TheFutureTech I owned some version of that model line! First gaming lappy I ever had; about...12-13 years ago? Bright (BRIGHT) red chassis, 18.4-inch beast. Loved it at the time, wished it wasn't so goddamned bright red, though.
Good times. ;)
Nvidia Battery Boost is set to 30FPS by default, using Geforce experience you can change this to 60fps.
I wish they had the option to set it to a higher fps, like maybe up to 120hz max because battery boost really improves noise levels even when plugged in.
@@_shadow_1 I don't think a 4090 can do 120 FPS on battery, because it will be massively power limited
@@dreamcat04 But it would massively reduce power when plugged in, which saves energy and decreases noise. I manually limit my fps in games on my current laptop which kind of works, but whisper mode seems to be more than just a simple fps cap because it also seems to automatically under volt.
Under volting my rtx 3070 ti laptop is already overpowered because I still get impressive performance, but I can barely hear it right next to me without a headset, like I almost have to actively tying to listen for the fans to hear them. I have never seen a gaming experience like this be so power efficient and quiet. Now being able to do all of that without any extra tweaking at the literal flip of a switch, it's essentially like cheating at that point.
@@_shadow_1 60FPS is the max as its designed for use with running on battery, if you want 120fps with lower fan noise use Whisper mode which should be in GFE as an option or in the Nvidia control panel
While playing Valheim: "No trouble at all playing this game" - Game lags while fans are running at takeoff speeds...
Could be shader compilation causing stutters
Having played the game, the 1-2 seconds freeze is expected in any pc config. I have them every now and then but other than that it's smooth. It's an early access game btw
@@maxdubois6385 I've just been playing it and got some stutters on my laptop (3070 + i9) but it plays pretty smooth for an early access game. I've played a LOT worse🤣
@@Holycurative9610 Yeah tbh it's awesome but there are some real punishing mechanics i.e. losing your equipped stuff in such a way that you gotta farm items from lower tiers just to get back in shape OOF
thats the game, it happens
The 30fps limitation can be disabled in Nvidia's GeForce experience, it has nothing to do with that specific notebook
i'm surprised Alex doesn't know this. I just kept saying "look in the GeForce experience U.I, moron"
This is true
how did he not pick this
@@de_stroyed I've never installed GeForce Experience, I just install the drivers (There is no way I'm making an account and be required to have internet access to just use a driver). It's crazy to me that it would knee-cap performance that much without notifying the user in some way (some UI pop-up of whatnot). I would think it was a firmware issue as well.
Granted, I would probably do a clean install of windows when I got the laptop, anyway.
@@Zyxlian even if you don't install GeForce experince, there's still power profiles that switch when you're on battery.
You guys have to make a ShortCircuit shirt that says "Love to see it" with Alex's stylized face. A quote, a review and marketing all in one sentence. If you dont think that's an awesome idea I will come over there and throw a tantrum until you make the right decision.
Love to see it, great idea 👍
Love to see it, great idea 👍
Love to see it, great idea 👍
Love to see it. 👍
Love to see it! If they don't include it, go give 'em one.
I would like to see this compared with the Clevo laptop (the manufacturer) and see what “Aorus” is really adding to this package.
Ah yes, the 17inch gaming laptop that sounds like it's taking off on the balanced profile....
My 17x (RTX 4080 + 13900HX) with the highest "Creator" and "Turbo" mode are so conservative that It never allows my CPU to reach any temp over 69c. As soon as it its 70c, I get the wattage reduced. Gigabyte needs to re evaluate these thermal settings and at the very least allow it to hit 90 or 95c. This is ridicules. It's not letting the 13900HX run!
any news about that?
Every time Alex performs a webcam test, I wait in great anticipation for the words "challenging scene" to leave his mouth
1:09 Wow! The power brick is so frekin huge, it powers the RGB even without being on!
And probably weights comparable to a 15' laptop
I have the Aorus 15p Xd and love it. The only downside so far is 90° + CPU temps almost immediately after running games, so I have to run the fans at 100% to keep my temps cool. But I'd rather replace my fans once a year than my motherboard.
Is that normal for your model? You could maybe try undervolting if you have enough CPU headroom because there's also a possibility where you don't need to replace anything.
@_Shadow_ For whatever reason, the Intel extreme program stops working after installing the 22H2 update. So only after a stock reset can I run those settings. I've tried fixing it, but it's beyond my abilities.
@@mr.fuscles The reason why bring it up is that my CPU is a i9-12900h in an otherwise very similar laptop both in size and specs and I don't see anything like that even if I stress it. I think it does use liquid metal, but that shouldn't make that much of a difference.
I guess it might be a limitation of the RTX 4090, but I wish this laptop had at least DisplayPort 2.0 alongside HDMI 2.1.
You'll need to wait for the RTX 5090 for that.
bruh really for a flagship gpu it doesn't have that
What would you do with displayport 2.0 realistically.
You guessed right, Rtx 4000 cards have HDMI 2.1 and dp 1.4a, that's it, be mad at Nvidia, not the laptop
@@JagsP95 it's something that's just nice to have even ARC GPUs have it, lol
Thing is dp 2.0 is less limiting than HDMI 2.1 when it comes to available bandwidth
Might not be useful on lower tier cards, but this is a 4090, remember, you're not buying this if you aren't an enthusiast
There is really something very important in laptops and it is their useful life. Not in terms of it becoming outdated, that happens in everyone, the important thing is the breakdowns, that the monitor breaks and you are left without a laptop, or that it burns. That is one of the main things to consider in such expensive laptops. I would like a video about that, that talks about old laptops and if they continue to work without faults today, to find out which are the best brands in duration and few faults.
all the best.
Make sure you let people know that depending on the sku, laptop brands can neuter the 4090 and a 4080 with more power budget can beat the 4090. This is also a warning to those wanting a powerful laptop. Make sure you know how much they've REALLY allocated to the GPU to ensure that you're going to get everything you paid for.
Anyone buying a laptop with a 4090 or 4080 are already not getting what they paid for because no matter what power they use it is not really those gpus 😂
@@samgoff5289 anyone buying a powerful gaming laptop understands the difference between laptop & desktop GPUs my dude
would the extra gpu help run video and audio editing programs?
Ive had windows hello recognition since 2020 with my Alienware 51m R2(10900k/2080Super). Which comes with a "Tobi-Eye Tracker" bar under the screen. I love it bc it has a feature where whenever you press whatever keybind you want(Alt by default) it automatically jumps your mouse arrow to wherever your eyes are looking. Prob sounds nothing to write home about but its one of those "once you use it your hooked" type things, just makes multitasking and getting things done easier & faster. You can also take it a step further and turn on an option where as soon as you move your mouse it will also jump to where your eyes are looking. Its pretty cool, so basically you just look at whatever you want to click on and the second you go to move your mouse, it puts the cursor right onto it.
The fan noise is insane when you start gaming on it. Had to stop the video to check my headphones hadn't broken and developed some sort of white noise!
Very strange criticism regarding the lower gaming performance on battery. This has been a thing for forever; no one should be gaming on battery and even if you do it won't even last an hour.
I have to admit I have an Aorus 15P with an i7 11th gen and a 3070 and I love it. Gigabyte was a surprise as far as laptops go.
@@love2k380 I would personally go with the legion 5 over the other two just cause it has more gaming power.
@@love2k380 if it’s used and the price is USD I would offer about 200 less and settle on 900 if the price is CAD than it’s reasonable
Some laptops with Nvidia cards have a 30fps cap enabled in Geforce Experience when not plugged in. It can be disabled
Love to see that kind of cooling. Need to see more of this if we're going to be putting 300+ watts of power through a laptop.
I really don't think the gaming performance on battery matters on a gaming laptop. The battery life is so short while trying to game that it is not worth it to try to game unless you are connected to the wall. The way to think about high end gaming laptops is that they are two computers in one. They are a high end laptop on the one hand and on the other a legitimate replacement for a desktop. It just can't be both at the same time.
Pretty much how I use my 2022 G14. Docked performance is like any other gaming laptop, and battery performance is still more than enough for CAD work on the go. I can even get some lighter games going on battery because the iGPU is actually a little beast.
Agreed. With a laptop, you want at least 5 hours of battery life in browsing and video playback and at least an hour while gaming. And if the GPU pulls over 200W, you can do with a bit less on battery. But a bit more performance on battery than it gives now would probably be better. If it can still do that one hour of gaming that is.
@@DigitalJedi That's how my Blade 15 is. It is thin and light enough and gets sufficient battery life for me to do basic computing tasks. Then when I sit down at my desk and connect it to power it is faster than my old gaming desktop was. It is just like having two computers but only having to purchase one.
Always such a big difference in attitude towards a laptop depending on whather the video is sponsored or not.
gotta love it when they say "you've never seen a power supply this dense" while my Alienware m17 power supply is sitting right next to me (also 330 watt)...
The 30 fps limit i don't think will be fixed. On my 2020 G15 with RTX 3070, it will be limited to 30 fps unless I'm using the iGPU on the 5900HS.
yo! I've got that same laptop! That thing's fantastic! I've been satisfied with the $ I spent on that ever since I got it 👍 I spent like $1,600 for an open box model from Best Buy and it felt like the steal of the century. I can easily see that laptop running for another 5-8 years no problem aside from replacing the battery at some point.
It's an nvidia feature and you can turn it off. Although You still won't get full power due to physical limits on the battery
Dear ShortCircuit: Please do the LTT backpack test for all laptops going forward. Will they fit?!
Giggity
You know that nobody will read it here, right?
@@ArturoTabera A company the size of LMG definitely has some people who will browse the comment sections for a time after their videos are released, even if mostly for moderation.
I'm sure the backpack is built for 17" laptops like that, not so sure about the powerbrick though...
It's also possible that on these sponsored videos that some companies may have a thing about other product placements.
@@benwu7980 I have the backpack, and I'm not sure it would fit. There's part of the cooler section that stick out from the back that would throw off dimensions.
Also if they would do the backpack test for all laptops then it would just become a standardized test.
I've got the 2080s version of this. It's even bigger and has two 330w power bricks.
Can you guys start showing whether or not laptops fit in the LTT backpack? My 17 inch fits, but I'd like to see with each one you review. It's a great plug to the store, and it's SUPER important to anyone who shelled out for your backpack.
First laptop I've seen that actually probably outperforms my desktop. Wow.
8:20 The staticy sound when you were playing the games plugged in, where did that come from? It stopped the moment you unplugged it. Fans? Interference from it drawing energy? It definitely didn't come from the games.
Fan noise most likely
I really hope Dell update the XPS 15 (or even make a 16) soon.
I'd love to see a 13th gen, rtx4000 version soon.
Honestly, that’s not what the XPS series is for. Their thin and light laptops for business people who run around a lot and the most demanding thing they ask for is a zoom meeting.
@@daponagegoogenburg807 or gamers who don't like edgy obnoxious "gamer" laptop design
@@cfilorvyls457 and low settings gaming
@@cfilorvyls457 if you’re dead set on that, which I sort of am, than your other option is Razer. Not an insane gamer aesthetic, but you actually get a real gpu, instead of Dell pretending that the 3060 is top of the line.
The two major things to consider though, is the price can get pretty high (although I think xx60 to xx60, their close in price, it’s just that Razer starts at 60, whereas Dell ends at 60) and the thing is a lot thicker and a little heavier than a comparable XPS.
I’m surprised there was no mention of the fan noise! It filled the whole middle of the video and partially distorted Alex’s wonderful voice!
It's sponsored. The lag in the game was also ignored. Yet in other videos they'll happily mention a 1-2 frame drops...
@@KentSpain85 those frames dropped may of been the autosave function of the game not so much the laptop itself. When that game does its autosave it does that to me and others. Its also a early access game so it has that against it to haha.
@@zazuch I was playing Portal, and the lag from the autosave function snuck up on me so much I thought the game crashed.
Honestly, $3500 seems like a very fair price. In UK I've seen a bunch of weaker 4000 series laptops advertised at $6000+
That's the problem bro. Especially since this "4090" is nothing at all like the desktop 4090
I'd like to see you review a laptop for word processor and office work on a budget!
Get AMD CPU laptop 3X more battery than intel.
4nm AMD CPU.
Its pretty commendable how objective they're letting the review be considering it definitely isn't cheap to sponsor this show
LMG luckily is big enough to decide which sponsorship to take and which to turn down. Linus definitely doesn't need to kiss Gigabyte's butt, so his condition is: we'll show it off, but only if we can talk about it honestly.
I'm not happy that you didn't go over thermals at all. Maybe there was some sort of NDA, but can you mention that? Because that's kind of important to know about
I know it's not a review though, it's more of a showcase. So if not, fine... But I feel like even in a showcase that's important to know.
Gaming Labtops we're so compromised for a long time. But every review i see one i miss my old one that i actually took to friends places often.
Looks like they aren't any lighter but they became insanely dense and sleak looking, so maybe also easier to transport. The older ones we're always bulky af.
This thing looks sweet, but after using a Gigabyte Aero for the past few years which has a similar keyboard layout, I would never do it again. I wish there was a version without the numpad layout and had the longer profile shift key. This style of keyboard is just not as comfortable to use as a layout that isn't squished to one side or the other.
1:15 gave me flashback to The Design is very human
Gigabyte needs this to be good, the AMOLED 16 inch series was not good last year
The price of these laptops are heartbreaking. Kudos to those that can afford to own them without breaking the bank or having to sell their kidneys. Might just be me, I'd rather play older titles or give up gaming and put my money to better use.
I feel similar things about your iPhone.
@@killerra i don't have an iPhone though, but yeah that too is not wallet-friendly.
For the last two generations rtx2000 ,rtx3000 flagship laptop started on 2000$ now it's 4000$ . Nvidia doubled the money.
@@vmafarah9473 in my counters those price is 6600 dollars
Had one of these in an older generation. Didn’t last me 2 years and cost like $4.5k.
CPU?GPU?
The fan is as loud as a waterfall. They just have to tune it down a little bit and we will have healing frequencies baby 😂
Certified chonker of a laptop, good heavens. o:
I enjoy these reviews but it would have been better without the background music. It sounded as if the fans were blasting away when you hit 240 fps but the background music made it difficult to tell what we were hearing.
Wish Apple did that with their Keyboards, as there is always imprints on the screen panel which just means your display will be scuffed in no time. I had to put a screen protector on my M1 16 Pro
hey can you guys show us type c charging while gaming and how much performace we can get while plugging via type c
Maybe the battery can be improved so the fps doesn't slow down so much after you pull the power cord.
Put on max performance mode in power settings problem solved.
This laptop is something I definitely don't need nor want for portable gaming but I still want one really badly because come on, it's badass!
"I dont need it and i dont want it but i want it!"
@@TheTastefulThickness yes
I'll buy two for SLI and 480Hz. It's gonna be sick!
No, it is not 24 cores at 5.5GHz. That is the max turbo on one of those 8P cores. Those 16E cores max out around 4.4GHz.
1:22 the design is very human
I must say I was very entertained by that strand of Alex's hair that kept bobbing around.
I hope we get a 16 inch with a 4080 in it as this size is a bit to large for easy carry
Asus has a couple
11:42 my face too. Alex called it, lol
was gonna say I dont normally comment but yeah without 330 watt power brick the battery cant supply same power to GPU so of course its a big change, battery is just basically a ups with a gpu like that so you can get plugged in, just seemed bad to say it would get fixed later
Right when he unplugged the laptop I got a UA-cam ad for the very same laptop. The commercial featured these 360 swivel slow motion shots of people gaming over hip hop music. Trying to make them look cool for just sitting on their ass
As soon as I could skip the ad I come back to the review and the music paired with the drop in FPS made for a hilarious If not serendipitous moment
NVIDIA this is not a 4090. Bring back the M designation for laptop GPUs (e.i. 980m).
If you can't fit the same die as the desktop variant, don't call it the same way, it's deceptive, and you knew better in the past
So Nvidia now has a proprietary, super expensive, mux switch? Great, just what we expected lol.
nvidia controls battery fps with battery boost which you can disable in geforce experience
Did NVidia just git a fancy marketing name to a mux switch?
Sure sounds like it.
Is there a vacuum cleaner being used in the background? I would have liked to see termals no temperature read outs at all
I’m going to continue to complain about Alex using Valheim for benchmarking until he stops.
We should really stert a petition on r/LinusTechTips. On the other hand, it's Alex.
30 Fps in Doom because of Battery Boost in Nvidia GeForce Experience... C'mon, it's rookie mistake Alex
Love you, don't be offended, you're awesome
Alex,
It would be awesome if you could review some engineering laptops.
I manage IT for a manufacturer that uses SOLIDWORKS and Catia extensively from electrical to mechanical to hydraulic design work.
I'd love to save money on real estate by putting them on laptops vice workstation desktops.
My only viable option I can see now is the MSI CreatorPro Z16p with the A3000 gpu
i wish they go 18 inch like razer and asus did
A couple years ago now I bought an MSI stealth 17.3" laptop with all of the same specs as the laptop linked in the description with the exception of the CPU and Graphics card. Mine has an I7 - 10th gen processor and an RTX 2060. I purchased it at a time when both of which were relatively new on the market for a total of $2100. Its crazy to me that its been between 3-4 years and a laptop with the newest CPU and Graphics card is now retailing for $3500 and we are willing to accept that. I do understand that 13th gen processors and the RTX 4000 series cards are significantly better, but in my personal opinion it's not $1400 price hike better. Good video nonetheless.
2060 for 2100 usd was a rip off wtf?
Thing turned into a switch in a second when he pulled the power 😂
Do some back to back tests, bare desk (make sure it isn't sucking that deskpad into the vents), and 25mm/35mm feet in the back. You might be surprised at the temperature drop just from some rear feet.
"Balanced" lets the GPU/CPU run as fast as possible considering the draw of the other. So putting it to other settings will keep performance down as it can't balance.
I use my laptop in bed so bought a cheap laptop tray from Amazon so the vents aren't sucking my duvet up and it drops temps by several degrees when playing Witcher 3.
Copy and paste excel spreadsheets in videos? What is happening to LMG?
interested in 16 inch 16:10 4090 175w laptops and how hot they get...
It's by default to 30 fps in the GeForce experience app on battery
Came for crabs techno dancing
When you unplugged the power a commercial popped up, so you should leave the power plugged in
I want Alex to come over and press on me the way he does laptop keyboards.
i can disable the 30fps lock on my acer predator but a full hd demanding game last bout 30 40 mins @ 60hz
In conclusion: Not worth it.
Is the lab going to be developing a method for quantifying deck flex of laptops and keyboards?
Gigabyte has always had issues with firmware and software that never gets fixed. I bought an AERO 16 and their software is STILL extremely broken, and it looks like it was made by an intern. Not to mention, for the first few months it reduced the 99.9Wh battery life from 6-7hrs to 2hrs. I wouldn’t recommend their laptops unless they’re on deal. Buy ASUS or Lenovo instead.
I purchased an Aero 17 HDR XD a couple of years ago. It wasn't until recently that I discovered that the Control Center software Gigabyte bundled with the laptop was actually just destroying battery life. Since using AeroCntrl and disabling Control Center, my on battery sessions have gone up from 2.5 hours to 7.5 hours at 80% battery and 40% screen brightness, I was shocked that it was such a huge jump
Edit: forgot to mention, apparently having recent Nvidia drivers can also impact battery life in big ways which sucks. I'm using the latest supported Nvidia studio drivers from gigabytes site to get the battery life that I'm getting currently but those are from the end of 2021, and that is a problem with these laptops for sure. Awesome hardware design in the laptop and I'm pretty happy with it overall but the software issues are so stupid, I'm thinking this laptop in the video is bound to face similar issues. I definitely think folks that want a gaming-first laptop should look elsewhere, even if there is a sale. x.x
Would never buy ASUS personality and Lenovo one time use laptops.7
@@theylienn Maybe that’s something I need to try - I used to disable GCC and the laptop would last much longer and be much cooler, nowadays it doesn’t seem to help much.
Do you simply launch AeroCntrl and close GCC on startup every time?
Both Asus and Lenovo are 30% more expensive for the same specs in Europe though...
@@malamucik2096 You’ll typically get a much better experience. I upgraded from an ROG Strix that never had any issues.
Now i’m using my Gigabyte laptop the battery life is seemingly unpredictable, laptop gets hot for no reason, fan control occasionally doesn’t work, GCC will one day not work and needs to be reinstalled, and the update center will ‘update’ software by downgrading it to an older version (yes it’s THAT broken). I once updated my BIOS 3 times because GCC was telling me there were updates, till i realized it was trying to install an older version.
Great hardware, great build quality, great screen, get value, ruined by its abysmal software. It really is a shame and I will not be buying another one. I simply don’t understand how Gigabyte is able to make a 99Wh battery last 2 hours on light use.
1:09 "Offline RGB"
Love this Waterfall extra addon :D is so Relaxing :d
Please do a review of the Aorus 17H laptop. It's a more affordable version of the Aorus 17 lineup. In fact it's the cheapest RTX4080 laptop there is to my knowledge. It has a 360hz display too. Wow 😲 Another review I would like to see is the Asus strix 18 which is the second cheapest gaming laptop and has a i9 CPU and higher screen resolution then the Aorus 17H which in a 17 inch or 18 inch screen might not be an issue. I need help which one to choose to buy between these two laptops
The way This cartoon Dennis the menace Handles the laptops .
fan noise is insane
That fan noise though...
Remember when Alex tossed and dropped that decked out laptop, and then stopped tossing the laptops. I wish he’d stop, or drop it. Either way works.
2k as good as you can get? I thought 4k was better seeing that the 4090 was made for it.
How does Apple manage to keep the same power levels plugged in or not? No one seems to be able to do so.
Only five seconds to the first "Frickin'" - has to be a record.
Would be quite gangster to have to slide over to a secondary monitor/keyboard/mouse to do gaming. and slide back for social media. lol.
Why does this dude always look so happy in every video. Is life this good in canada?
How much better are 4090 laptops set to get, is it worth waiting till later on in the year before looking at my options?
I would wait. There's significant downgrades to a 4090 laptop vs 4090 desktop, with the biggest discrepancy I've seen in years. Hoping that gets fixed soon but tbh I think Nvidia is focusing on frame generation rather than pure hardware performance
Large box?
Basically all rog laptops: hold my box
Keep in mind this laptop costs around the same as a similar performing desktop with a 3090 from late 2020. But for laptops I think it's most reasonable to never go above a 70 series GPU. Any higher and you run into diminishing returns from wattage and heat restrictions.
In previous generation I 100% agree with you but for 40xx generation price difference between 4070 and 4080 not too high but there is about 40-50% gain in fps. Also imo its somewhat unreasonable to go for 4090 bc it it gives 10-20% gain and usually costs a lot more
03:25 yo, sup dawg, I herd you like RGB, so I put RGB in your RGB
I wonder if the issue with the higher-performance modes is thermals related. Moar power = moar heat, so maybe it's throttling due to sudden temperature increase? Interesting. What a beastly machine.
Why is memory now being reported as "mega transfers per second" and before I remember people saying for example "3200 mega hertz".
If that PSU is GaN I'm Queen Elizabeth the 3rd revenge of the Windsor.
The ASUS Studiobook One with the rtx6000 had the 300w Nvidia PSU that was a quarter of the volume of this one
I hate how when razer sells you peripherals they aren't telling you theres 125hz at the keys and mousepad. So, you can't scale the gaming keyboard down. you just have to use both. While the mouse can change its polling rate to accommodate to the refresh rate of the 125hz keyboard. Confused yet? The monitors now come with variable refresh rates(gsync freesync) and adjustable refresh rates at the monitor.
still a mess? its a laptop the power draw isnt coming from inside the case. lol.
“Is this a 99Wh battery?” “Yes,” screams the 20pt font
Im pretty sure if you unplug the laptop it goes in a like silent mode which doesnt allow to clock the gpu high but if the software would work you could probably change that