Why it can't always be 5x5: Theory of Training

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  • @clarence0
    @clarence0 4 роки тому +412

    Olympic lifting 11 times per week messed up my knees, not squatting 5*5 everyday. If anything squatting was therapeutic for my knees. Not saying 5*5 everyday is good(I'd never recommend it to anyone), but that's not how I injured my knees at all.

    • @ryanreviews8566
      @ryanreviews8566 4 роки тому +17

      oooooh. This is interesting.

    • @thecrystaltide3757
      @thecrystaltide3757 4 роки тому +6

      Seeing so many lifters do two-a-day's with potentially less explodey knees, is the injury more of a load selection/pushing through injury/suboptimal recovery bc its comp time yolo kinda ting?

    • @jayuppercase3398
      @jayuppercase3398 3 роки тому +54

      But Clarence your not a normal Hooman Bean

    • @TomLaios
      @TomLaios 3 роки тому +11

      As an 80s era lifter I always thought it was squatting that damaged my knees. Now, a few years back in, squats aren't the problem. Everything else is. The explosiveness of snatching and cleaning is something my knees refuse to do. But I can squat comfortably very heavy weights easily.

    • @inky4690
      @inky4690 3 роки тому +4

      yeah ok..i bet you can only squat 100kg

  • @jasonthompson4849
    @jasonthompson4849 3 роки тому +51

    Mark Rippetoe just felt a disturbance in the force

  • @luobomu9747
    @luobomu9747 Рік тому +6

    Personally, I combine 5x5 with medium and long stints of doing no gym work at all. As an added bonus I never have to add more weight to the bar, I can simply do slightly less than last time.

  • @ethanbaird5058
    @ethanbaird5058 3 роки тому

    been doing doubles in the front squat for far too long. thanks for sharing guys!

  • @mattxp3389
    @mattxp3389 3 роки тому

    Thanks, guys! This video has pushed me to consider y'alls coaching program! I sent an email. Thanks for putting out the information and taking the time to make sure that weightlifting "enthusiasts" can get good information.

  • @stephentolley6110
    @stephentolley6110 3 роки тому +3

    Hi guys, really enjoying the channel so far! Really good content and there needs to be more of an evidence based approach to training advice like these videos. I’m currently undertaking my undergraduate dissertation in the effects of velocity feedback on load lifted in a 1RM back squat. So, I was just wondering if you could do a video on the force-velocity curve and velocity based training. I think people would find it really informative. Keep up the good work!

  • @kasetophono
    @kasetophono 14 днів тому

    Absolutely love your channel

  • @nd-qk5bj
    @nd-qk5bj 3 роки тому +1

    Brilliant video, I wish I could of seen this 10 years ago!!

  • @tractor7937
    @tractor7937 Рік тому

    This channel is a goldmine

  • @ianshand9155
    @ianshand9155 3 роки тому +5

    Really interesting! It would be great to see a video discussing 5/3/1 and your thoughts on that! :)

  • @neilhutson1300
    @neilhutson1300 4 роки тому +6

    Brilliant content as always. I've listened to all your podcasts on spotify so i've had to follow you to youtube to get that fix of Sika Strength.

  • @ak205
    @ak205 3 роки тому

    i might have to come back to this video and your other videos down the road. but you guys seem v knowledgeable (+1 sub)
    i have 0 background in strength training, i only played sports in school (and am sadly a lot older since then, and haven't done any physical activity since).
    i came across 5*5 stronglifts years ago and for me as a beginner - it seems perfect.
    anytime i think about a gym membership, it would be for doing 5*5. i am excited to make some real progress after the lockdown finishes.
    i want to build up my overall strength, and so i love the compound exercises but also the simplicity of the program.

  • @bennygilligan
    @bennygilligan 3 роки тому

    I am only new to the channel, absolutely excellent content lads really enjoyed it

  • @lt517
    @lt517 2 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing the info

  • @angelojumped
    @angelojumped 7 місяців тому

    This was golden.

  • @lvortiz87
    @lvortiz87 3 роки тому +4

    I just watched this video (and subscribing!) for the first time and you helped me realize how much time I've wasted for the last few years 😂 but this is good! I spent alot time on 5x5 and have tried a modified (masters) Russian squat program afterward. Now I'm in month 3 of the 5/3/1 program, and you've revealed to me that I have ABSOLUTELY NEGLECTED volume and conditioning. I think 5 sets of 10 or 6 sets of 8 is what I need. Would love your thoughts on if I should finish month 3 of this program, and take any time off or deload? Before beginning something more volume/lower intensity. I look forward to your next Q&A!

  • @MC-nv4bo
    @MC-nv4bo 4 роки тому +1

    Loved this video. On the RTA now and I’m super excited to see what PRs I can hit.

  • @johnstark5404
    @johnstark5404 3 роки тому +12

    This is why I like greyskull programming. Having some sets of five and the amrap to push volume and auto-regulate. Interesting content lads

  • @AppendixVermiformis
    @AppendixVermiformis Рік тому

    Okay, 19 minutes seemed well sufficient to convey the idea that 4x8 on Tuesday and 6x4 on Friday is better than 5x5 twice weekly. Thanks, guys!

  • @lukebbuff
    @lukebbuff 2 роки тому

    Old video, but I appreciate this. I’ve been doing starting strength style 3x5 for months. I just switched to Juggernaut and the 5x10 phase is killing me using the estimated training maxes that should have been fairly easy.
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    I really related to the mental drain of 5s. I got to a point where I was doing 3x5 at 275lbs but was totally uncomfortable with 315lbs on my back, or going into more than 7/8 reps with even super light weight.

  • @hansoloo98
    @hansoloo98 3 роки тому

    big love

  • @zsahe21
    @zsahe21 Рік тому

    Please have a chat or interview or podcast with Alex Bromley about programming.

  • @stephenjlewis1976
    @stephenjlewis1976 3 роки тому

    Epic wallpaper

  • @khaimapostol962
    @khaimapostol962 3 роки тому

    Regarding the additional cross sectional area, how would this apply to someone sticking to a certain weight class who’s already on the upper limit of their weight class?

  • @breakingcandy3033
    @breakingcandy3033 Місяць тому

    I do 5x5 to get my body familiar with the exact form I want to keep, with a decently heavy weight, eventually in like a month Im gonna move to a new program for squat

  • @waiteboii3641
    @waiteboii3641 3 роки тому

    Subscribed

  • @michalsz.7179
    @michalsz.7179 2 роки тому +3

    don't you feel that recovery is what is highly underrated and not stressed enough?

  • @zsahe21
    @zsahe21 Рік тому

    New sub.

  • @albysx50
    @albysx50 3 роки тому +6

    Foive by foive

  • @KL89452
    @KL89452 3 роки тому +4

    Mehdi must be laughing all the way to the bank!

  • @KrowKoster
    @KrowKoster 4 роки тому +3

    Pls make an in-depth video on how to recover from porlonged RSI's (especially knee- and quad-tendonitis); which treatments and recovery methods actually works? when and how should you train when injured? which pharmaceuticals can help you recover (over-the-counter aswell as the "prescription" type)? what role does diet play? etc etc. I really need some advice as I keep wasting time from my prime lifting years being injured....
    Also what are your thoughts on Starting Strengths?

    • @samj8932
      @samj8932 4 роки тому +1

      They've mentioned in a podcast b4 that they're not comfortable giving people medical advice on what to do, however can elaborate on what they did when/ if they were in a situation similar to yours

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 роки тому +2

      We'll certainly do a theory of recovery from RSI but of course it would wise to see a medical professional 👍👌

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 роки тому +1

      @@samj8932 awwwhhhh an OG listener ❤️

    • @airdoctor1251
      @airdoctor1251 3 роки тому +1

      Gona specialise soon in sports medicine (with major speciality in orthopedia) Like Sam said , see a professional but they are very rare to find someone who specialises in this specifically. Most of these doctors get hired by sport clubs etc
      edit : to elaborate u will find orthopedic doctors but not ones who have dealt with athletes at an amateur level or a professional level. If you do find one, get your wallet/insurance ready.

  • @davekerins
    @davekerins 2 роки тому

    Nice

  • @aidanivesdavis
    @aidanivesdavis 3 роки тому

    Great content! Id love to see more realistic programming content. Good common sense advice gets drowned out by all the hyped up bullshit like squat every day, etc.

  • @scottpoll6357
    @scottpoll6357 Рік тому

    Yeah, my biggest problem is work capacity. I don’t like doing more than 5 reps per set on squats. I like to stick to sets of 1-3 reps. So that’s why my work capacity isn’t that good.

  • @leeonr
    @leeonr 4 роки тому

    nice intro

  • @WtbgoldBlogspot
    @WtbgoldBlogspot Місяць тому

    I'm curious if, after your push using the 5x5 and 3x10 from Squat Senpai, you have revised your thinking on this.

  • @wilard95
    @wilard95 3 роки тому

    what's an algorithm?

  • @KwisBwown
    @KwisBwown Рік тому

    any thoughts on clusters brah?

  • @jordandaly5033
    @jordandaly5033 4 роки тому +1

    Any thoughts on doing the whole typical training cycles backwards? For example with regards to the squat in a 8 week training cycle, starting with the heaviest work at the begining and then ending the 8 weeks with a much higher volume approach?

    • @jordandaly5033
      @jordandaly5033 4 роки тому

      I know it was mentioned but any just quick lines on why it supposedly doesn't work? Too inexperienced to figure it out myself

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 роки тому +1

      This will be next week's video! It's an interesting topic. Cliff notes: it's very very rare that you could go from the high volume on week 8 to a 1RM the following week as each volume ranges are skills as we mentioned.

  • @mauort6870
    @mauort6870 6 місяців тому

    am I missing something?..i thought the word was adaptation. is adaption used in Ireland?

  • @Natureboypkr2
    @Natureboypkr2 3 роки тому

    I oddly got more bodybuilding benefits from 5x5, but I only squat once a week.

  • @LewisPC
    @LewisPC 4 роки тому

    5x5 is how I started, but repeatedly burning out on weights between 120-130 stalled my progress a ridiculous amount back when I was a teenager... Probably shouldnt have been doing it 3-4x a week and I wish id just followed something a bit more structured

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 роки тому +5

      It's valuable learning experiences as long as you've grown now it's worth it on a personal level

    • @LewisPC
      @LewisPC 4 роки тому

      @@sikastrength oh yeah defo wouldnt take back the learning from it

  • @weights_before_datess
    @weights_before_datess 3 роки тому

    What if I do one day conventional DL for 5x5 and the other day trap bar DL for 3x10 or 4x 10 etc

  • @ceddy8286
    @ceddy8286 4 роки тому +7

    is this a direct shot at Clarence?

    • @ceddy8286
      @ceddy8286 4 роки тому +6

      wait I should prob watch the vid before commenting

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 роки тому +7

      Absolutely not 😂

  • @Pohka
    @Pohka 4 роки тому +1

    how much you guys ohp?

  • @meghdaniellama1604
    @meghdaniellama1604 2 роки тому

    Swimming has its own 5x5
    It’s called usrpt

  • @Alexiaden93
    @Alexiaden93 2 роки тому

    For the algorithm

  • @leonidas3127
    @leonidas3127 Рік тому

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but you missed the point? You make an argument to be skilled in different percept ranges, and you did not talk about why specificity doesn't work, i.e. doing always 5x5, except for fatigue variable.

    • @PhiyackYuh
      @PhiyackYuh Рік тому

      Because you wont tap onto all force-velocity curve mate 😂 it means you will just be good in 5x5 and will get stagnant. Body adapts easily. Theres lots of people who do 5x5 but cant hit 20-25reps? How is that strong right when you think about it, it should be piece of piss right? Try it out and you will be surprised.

  • @therukshuka3616
    @therukshuka3616 Рік тому +1

    Toshiki-san would be very disappointed..

  • @tmad-sb6mj
    @tmad-sb6mj 3 роки тому +5

    I believe the old "Russian squat program" had a lot of 5x5 in it...

    • @soldierside365
      @soldierside365 3 роки тому +2

      If it’s the same program I’m thinking of, it didn’t. It did have one 5x5 day in it, but that was all. It did have you go up to 6x6 at 80% which sucked balls

  • @davidportej
    @davidportej 3 роки тому

    18:16 haha :D

  • @TheGreatOldOak
    @TheGreatOldOak Рік тому

    If you do 5x5 properly you won't be able to do it again until next week. Unless you are a rank beginner in which case 3x5 done three times a week is a better option.

    • @buttlesschap
      @buttlesschap 9 місяців тому

      Depends on the individual of course, but the average beginner can handle 5x5 squats 3 times a week. A lot of beginners are recommended Starting Strength or Strong Lifts, both include 5x5 squats three times a week.

    • @tttyyy949
      @tttyyy949 8 місяців тому

      Starting strength is 3x5 @@buttlesschap

  • @zsahe21
    @zsahe21 Рік тому

    !!!!

  • @ashearera
    @ashearera 2 роки тому

    5x5s are the 400m/800m races of strength training imo, in terms of them being horrendous

  • @grkstud97
    @grkstud97 4 роки тому +8

    So squatting everyday doesn’t work, 5x5 doesn’t work, but Sikastrength squat program does work.... suspicious..

    • @sikastrength
      @sikastrength  4 роки тому +9

      You got us! It's propaganda 😂

  • @Mr66Undertaker
    @Mr66Undertaker 2 роки тому +2

    Is the sole dislike Mark Rippetoe's?

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi 2 роки тому +1

    "Clarence did..." yes but you're not Clarence.

  • @brettpacker2779
    @brettpacker2779 3 роки тому +1

    Get rid of that wallpaper for a start

  • @pooperscooper42069
    @pooperscooper42069 2 роки тому

    Does liking a comment do anything for the algo

  • @jamesfoster5339
    @jamesfoster5339 3 роки тому +2

    It’s 2020 and people are still lost when it comes to working out. I can’t not laugh. The industry of misinformation. 🙄

    • @laughter95
      @laughter95 3 роки тому

      Normal. It's nearly a year into the pandemic and people still can't wrap their heads around it. Too much info out there, hard to navigate.

    • @ralphwarom2514
      @ralphwarom2514 2 роки тому

      Pick a lift. Lift clean. Increase reps, sets or weight every session with equal rest time.
      Progress and profit.

  • @fitdev1291
    @fitdev1291 Рік тому

    Great video. But man, you guys talk so much😅

  • @AmericanBulldogFit
    @AmericanBulldogFit 3 роки тому

    Stick to A.S. Prilipen's table and listen to your body. I've put over 100LB on my Deadlift in two years just adhering to these two rules. Some guys can squat 3Xweek (I was one of them). Some guys squat once every 10 days (I am now one of them). I've gained on both. There is no "one size fits all" cookie cutter program out there. If you want something structured, RTS is the best around. Specificity, autoregulation, and using A.S. P's tables are the best way. Even the old school Doug Hepburn programs are great. I've used those for years. Everybody has a stupid "program" to sell. Stop making this shit overcomplicated.