It works on direct hit & the very start of the wave only (impact damage) I got it today and I like it a lot it's an overload champion's nightmare in my opinion
I have a field prep-disorientating grenades one. THe success rate is pretty low with direct hits, and zero from the wave (after it has already started). Highest successrate I had was sort of treating it like fighting lion (i.e. aiming the shot close to the enemy I want to disorientate, not a direct hit, and strangely enough holding down the button after shooting then releasing it when its close to target - similar to lion). Prefer to use something like Pardon our Dust if I need to blind. Pity that the wave frame isnt as easy to use.
@@zachstinnett5475 Vorpal's good all-round for chunking mini bosses/champs, bait's good in rotations. collective action's not too horrible if your build leaves a lot of pickups around, or if you steal Tangles a lot
Holy, you're right that could have been a better godroll than incandescent+archers tempo, other thing that they could have done was putting archers gambit on the left column, so archers+incandescent
@@lewiscarroll6986The new world drop shotgun reloads the same way and can run Voltshot. I think it can also get chain reaction (same column as voltshot tho).
Scintillation is looking nice, but it has steep competition for precision damage with euphony, still hunt, and whisper existing. Obviously exotics, but could be a good legendary to go for if you're set on using your exotic slot for something else
@@reecehinton1588 I don't think there is or going to be a dps phase long enough to where you'll run out of ammo in euphony and need another heavy to back it up. Of all the people I've seen use euphony for dps, ammo economy issues has not been something popping up. Better off running a strand LMG for ad clear
The combo you want is envious/res burst.. its one of only two linears in the game with res burst (Line in the sand) but with Line it only rolls with with clown, this get envious which u can have 21 in the mag (7 base) ..25% increase damage that has no timer attached to it like B&S does.. as raid bosses become more mobile and have more attacks bein able to have 25% damage at all times without having to reproc the perk is huge.. So 14 shots at 25% is better than 30% with a 10 second timer attached to it that has to be reproc’d ..bait aint switch aint the perk u want on this
They're making weapon rolls so good now you want 2 and 3 copies of weapons. Even craftable weapons I find myself craft multiple versions (plz Bungie allow us to have a method to start crafting multiple perks in a column)
Jolt & Incan both proc perks like stats for all. The only “elemental” perk that doesn’t is destabilizing. For whatever reason it’s the only one that’s coded to work differently because everything voltshot can proc, Incan does too.
Bungie has really knocked it out of the park with the weapons this season! I hope they keep it up this year. This is the most excited I think I’ve ever been to experiment and farm for new rolls!
Demo might be the play on wardens law now, for a perfect rotation u had to have impetus & reload it this way, since like u are saying, 4th times isn’t needed anymore I’d go with demo
Wild Style is looking much better. Reconstruction and Vorpal will be a good option for damage rotations. Surrounded would be even better in situations that let you proc it.
I'm very happy with the return of shadow price, I got a surplus/one for all back when I was a blueberry in beyond light and it's been so reliable over the years. Thinking I want a stats/one for all this time around now that I'm good enough to get adepts. They gotta bring Palindrome back next
I gotta say, i got an eddy current/volt shot with a reload masterwork last season, and it its just amazing after the eddy current buffs. You basically have insanely faste reload and handling making the weapon feel fantastic. And i heard when enhanced eddy current is even better by a lot. I highly recommend trying that combo out
You dont want any mag perks or mods on Scintillation other than Enhanced Battery. Everything else reduces your reserve (apparently). Also they changed Wave frames to be affected by Blast Radius with 50 being the old 100. So bringing it to 0 could hurt its add clear potential with the wave being thinner.
My understanding is that Undercurrent having the extra mag perks is unintentional and will be removed. It shouldn’t be getting any of the magazine perks outside of high velocity rounds and implosion rounds as no other wave frame has anything but implosion and high velocity.
Made it to the boss on my first solo attempt this week, then proceeded to miss the cheese spot ledge and jumped off the map. Also, permeability needs to be a third column perk. Nobody is giving up damage for slight utility. I would like to see Bungie slide it over a column because I like niche perks for specific builds, just not at the cost of free damage like frenzy or volt.
I'm really chasing demo - vorpal wardens law. I don't need an insane reload when the lucky pants damage phase is over I'm not plinking with a primary, I'll swap to a heavy machine gun or fusion. Demo with help bump wardens laws neutral game so it's less of a damage phase hot swap gun. Always preferred malfeasance because even the nuetral gunplay with the detonating slugs chunks majors so well.
On Undercurrent: disorienting/eddy current/jolt is the play 100% It seems you’re not aware of the buff eddy current got its perfect for the roll i just gave
I got an undercurrent last night with eddy current and Voltshot. I saw a video on the buff to eddy current and reload speed is massively increased and so thinking about running it with my getaway artist Warlock to see how it is. Should be pretty strong I imagine.
I got a eddycurrent|demolitionist + voltshot and I still can't decide which one is better, I guess I'll have to make two builds but so far eddy current is winning cuz all the ionic traces already give you ability energy back to not need demo
Masterworked adepts get stat bonuses to every stat including the master work. It’s not much but it’s something. You are mostly gonna do GMs for the title or the “adept” in the name
I’m just fascinated that prople aren’t thinking autoloading with bait and switch with ionized backup. By the time you fire 7 you will most likely need to redo bait and switch and also veist stinger can even boost your uptime even more. I think that roll will make it cook dramatically as a swap linear
my question is.. for the purpose of pve why should i go for adept weapons with the removal of weapon dmg mods? for pvp can see why as you get more stats which actual matter in pvp but for pve.. imo doesn't seem worth grinding gm's for anymore..
I’m hoping whatever that new bow coming in the revenant or Hersey episode has destabilizing rounds and explosive head or dragonfly. No void bows have destabilizing rounds yet that I can see
pardon our dust, forebearance ,The Militia's Birthright (Adept). Undercurrent always felt like consolation prize for people not finishing disciple raid and getting pattern
Lol i haven't got one weapon you mentioned. But then I'm pretty new to the game so not surprised. How do you know where the location it too loot a certain type, say a pulse rifle, or is it all rng?
Got an envious/rewind rounds + bait n switch roll on the new linear like 30 minutes ago, the things a beast. I just wonder what it's damage numbers would be like with hot swaps between envious and rewind
The fact they butchered tolands auto rifles kindve sucks but I have the true god roll.. overflow dragonfly is the best thing that can roll on it.. well used to.. you don't need volt shot when you got dragons fly with a 60+ rd mag size. Idk wtf they were thinking with that one lol.. Roland's sitting in the ascendant planes like "really bungo???" 🤣 I feel for those who didn't get that roll a few years back.
I have a question, was i wrong to enhance my wardens law god roll that i got that wasnt adept? I already put the trials momento on it so im kind of locked on
18k kills on my old hush…..ground out some gambit till I got a half decent hush with archers gambit….only to be disappointed….not looked online to confirm the numbers but I can tell they nerfed it :( whyyyyyy not like it was OP. Guess I’ll stick to my wolftone warm up + tempo. Such a disappointment.
I got it last season and, as someone who doesn’t even love swords, I never enter any activity in the game without it in my inventory. It checks so many boxes, good luck grinding!
Excited for this video because I love doing GM carries 👏🏽 should be a title for it if the people your helping 1. Have never cleared that nf on gm , or 2. Are way lower power then the actual gm power 😂 i’d have over 200
Wardens law was the first legendary weapon to ever leave me speechless in this game. The first time I ran it with lucky pants and shredded an unstop champ, my mouth was agape
I got an undercurrent with lfg/voltshot and blinding, the blinding does work but only around the spot the wave starts
ohhhh interesting. Yeah I tested it more today and found it to be very inconsistent. That makes sense
It works on direct hit & the very start of the wave only (impact damage) I got it today and I like it a lot it's an overload champion's nightmare in my opinion
I have a field prep-disorientating grenades one. THe success rate is pretty low with direct hits, and zero from the wave (after it has already started). Highest successrate I had was sort of treating it like fighting lion (i.e. aiming the shot close to the enemy I want to disorientate, not a direct hit, and strangely enough holding down the button after shooting then releasing it when its close to target - similar to lion). Prefer to use something like Pardon our Dust if I need to blind. Pity that the wave frame isnt as easy to use.
@@Trai1b1azethanks for explaining that.
Absolutely shelling out for a Wild Style. I saw the changes at the beginning of TFS and instantly dropped my jaw 😭 Recon is so nice ffs
Reconstruction and what in the 4th cooumn?
@@zachstinnett5475 Vorpal's good all-round for chunking mini bosses/champs, bait's good in rotations. collective action's not too horrible if your build leaves a lot of pickups around, or if you steal Tangles a lot
@@denny8422 I'm thinking vorpal as it's easy to proc but you're right double bns weapons with this in the swap is nice.
Give us a solar bow with Heal-Clip and Incandescent, you cowards!
Holy, you're right that could have been a better godroll than incandescent+archers tempo, other thing that they could have done was putting archers gambit on the left column, so archers+incandescent
The solar scout for echos is great with heal clip incandescent because it loads individual bullets, it’s fairly quick
Next raid mayhaps
@@lewiscarroll6986The new world drop shotgun reloads the same way and can run Voltshot. I think it can also get chain reaction (same column as voltshot tho).
We got one with volt shot so at this point I don’t see why they wouldn’t do heal clip too.
Scintillation is looking nice, but it has steep competition for precision damage with euphony, still hunt, and whisper existing. Obviously exotics, but could be a good legendary to go for if you're set on using your exotic slot for something else
Euphony plus scintillation for same surge. Euphony with scintillations for backup could be good
@@reecehinton1588 I don't think there is or going to be a dps phase long enough to where you'll run out of ammo in euphony and need another heavy to back it up. Of all the people I've seen use euphony for dps, ammo economy issues has not been something popping up. Better off running a strand LMG for ad clear
@@Energycomet12 I have used euphony for witness dps and ran out, i get like 4 shots of a heavy linear before I jump off
The combo you want is envious/res burst..
its one of only two linears in the game with res burst (Line in the sand) but with Line it only rolls with with clown, this get envious which u can have 21 in the mag (7 base) ..25% increase damage that has no timer attached to it like B&S does.. as raid bosses become more mobile and have more attacks bein able to have 25% damage at all times without having to reproc the perk is huge..
So 14 shots at 25% is better than 30% with a 10 second timer attached to it that has to be reproc’d ..bait aint switch aint the perk u want on this
@@slats1537 that would definitely be the move, especially for a backup with euphony
They're making weapon rolls so good now you want 2 and 3 copies of weapons. Even craftable weapons I find myself craft multiple versions (plz Bungie allow us to have a method to start crafting multiple perks in a column)
Can confirm that Warden's Law with Vorpal and Enlightened Action is VERY good 👍🏾
Jolt & Incan both proc perks like stats for all. The only “elemental” perk that doesn’t is destabilizing. For whatever reason it’s the only one that’s coded to work differently because everything voltshot can proc, Incan does too.
awesome thanks for the info!
Probably because it just makes targets volatile, but doesn’t trigger the volatile burst
only weapons worth getting are wardens, slammer, and wild style imo
Attrition Orbs dropped about 80 orbs for me when I did the gm nightfall. It has me reconsidering how accurate that perk is valued.
Wild style with blind/recon/incan is what I’m looking forward to most.
You forgot to mention the Veist origin trait on Scintillation!
Bungie has really knocked it out of the park with the weapons this season! I hope they keep it up this year. This is the most excited I think I’ve ever been to experiment and farm for new rolls!
Demo might be the play on wardens law now, for a perfect rotation u had to have impetus & reload it this way, since like u are saying, 4th times isn’t needed anymore I’d go with demo
Undercurrent has since been patched to only have high-velocity rounds and implosion rounds. No more disorienting grenades
Wild Style is looking much better. Reconstruction and Vorpal will be a good option for damage rotations. Surrounded would be even better in situations that let you proc it.
I'm very happy with the return of shadow price, I got a surplus/one for all back when I was a blueberry in beyond light and it's been so reliable over the years. Thinking I want a stats/one for all this time around now that I'm good enough to get adepts. They gotta bring Palindrome back next
Oh god yeah palindrome is insane
I gotta say, i got an eddy current/volt shot with a reload masterwork last season, and it its just amazing after the eddy current buffs. You basically have insanely faste reload and handling making the weapon feel fantastic. And i heard when enhanced eddy current is even better by a lot. I highly recommend trying that combo out
You dont want any mag perks or mods on Scintillation other than Enhanced Battery. Everything else reduces your reserve (apparently).
Also they changed Wave frames to be affected by Blast Radius with 50 being the old 100. So bringing it to 0 could hurt its add clear potential with the wave being thinner.
When do you think the slammer adept version will come around
My understanding is that Undercurrent having the extra mag perks is unintentional and will be removed. It shouldn’t be getting any of the magazine perks outside of high velocity rounds and implosion rounds as no other wave frame has anything but implosion and high velocity.
the only logical conclusion.
Made it to the boss on my first solo attempt this week, then proceeded to miss the cheese spot ledge and jumped off the map.
Also, permeability needs to be a third column perk. Nobody is giving up damage for slight utility. I would like to see Bungie slide it over a column because I like niche perks for specific builds, just not at the cost of free damage like frenzy or volt.
I'm really chasing demo - vorpal wardens law. I don't need an insane reload when the lucky pants damage phase is over I'm not plinking with a primary, I'll swap to a heavy machine gun or fusion. Demo with help bump wardens laws neutral game so it's less of a damage phase hot swap gun. Always preferred malfeasance because even the nuetral gunplay with the detonating slugs chunks majors so well.
There is a bug with Undercurrent in pvp. If you have proximity grenades on it,it can oneshot with the direct hit.
Undercurrent with Eddy current and Voltshot will be rather fun with so many ways to make you amplified. blinding fast reload.
On Undercurrent: disorienting/eddy current/jolt is the play 100%
It seems you’re not aware of the buff eddy current got its perfect for the roll i just gave
1:50 yea voltshot will prock stats for all. I use the same roll on my Subjunctive for that reason
I got an undercurrent last night with eddy current and Voltshot. I saw a video on the buff to eddy current and reload speed is massively increased and so thinking about running it with my getaway artist Warlock to see how it is. Should be pretty strong I imagine.
Works pretty well on prismatic as well.
I got a eddycurrent|demolitionist + voltshot and I still can't decide which one is better, I guess I'll have to make two builds but so far eddy current is winning cuz all the ionic traces already give you ability energy back to not need demo
Are adept weapons worth it now that the spec mods are gone? I've only played regular Nightfalls before for reference.
Masterworked adepts get stat bonuses to every stat including the master work. It’s not much but it’s something. You are mostly gonna do GMs for the title or the “adept” in the name
Can you have two bait and switches up at the same time? I know it should work but did anyone test that yet considering we are talking about bungie 😅
Jolt probably procs stats for all, thats how it works with headstone
I was really hoping for dragonfly volt shot on shadow price. If i remember correctly the old shadow price could roll with dragonfly, why not now😢
Thank god that Scintillation has so many good rolls so I won't be grinding too long before I get something I like.
I’m just fascinated that prople aren’t thinking autoloading with bait and switch with ionized backup. By the time you fire 7 you will most likely need to redo bait and switch and also veist stinger can even boost your uptime even more.
I think that roll will make it cook dramatically as a swap linear
my question is.. for the purpose of pve why should i go for adept weapons with the removal of weapon dmg mods? for pvp can see why as you get more stats which actual matter in pvp but for pve.. imo doesn't seem worth grinding gm's for anymore..
You get to flex and double perks in the first column. Plus the weapon is guaranteed to drop rather than a chance
Appendend mag is also good on warden’s law?
I’m hoping whatever that new bow coming in the revenant or Hersey episode has destabilizing rounds and explosive head or dragonfly. No void bows have destabilizing rounds yet that I can see
Bruh I CANT wait for Scintillation!!
I’m calling it, it’s gonna be meta
Rewind plus veist stinger? PLUS B&S?!?? sign me the FK UP
As great as it is, if you get Euphony from the raid, you have no reason to ever use it, especially if you're on a NeedleLock.
I really need it, since I can't run trials/raids my strand weapon options are extremely lacking
@@patrickoakley7890 I’ve never raided, unless you got an backpack I can jump in lol
The Slammer with Relentless/B&S is very nice if someone is running Ergo Sum with Wolfpack rounds.
pardon our dust, forebearance ,The Militia's Birthright (Adept). Undercurrent always felt like consolation prize for people not finishing disciple raid and getting pattern
Lol i haven't got one weapon you mentioned. But then I'm pretty new to the game so not surprised. How do you know where the location it too loot a certain type, say a pulse rifle, or is it all rng?
Each week a new weapon is in the nightfall rotation. Each week will be one of these weapons
@@Renmus
Ok cool, thanks
Enlightened action an zen moment max range wardens law is a beast
just rolled a Wild Style, with Recon/BnS, feels real nice, but i just need to enhance it now
Got an envious/rewind rounds + bait n switch roll on the new linear like 30 minutes ago, the things a beast. I just wonder what it's damage numbers would be like with hot swaps between envious and rewind
Does rewind get additional hits from the 3-round burst, or does each burst count as one hit total?
@@sirdapplton not sure. I would assume it does since it procs veist stinger more often
I just got the Adept Shadowprice with stats for all and voltshot. Stats for all doesn't proc. Its still nasty.
how do people know the nightfall rotation already?
So for wardens law if I don’t have 24 mag with backup, FTTC is better but if I do have 24 it’s nice to run enlightened?
@@vChilly you got it!
@@itztizzle ahh, appreciate it man 🙏
26 bullets = use enlightened action, less than 26 = use 4ttc
The fact they butchered tolands auto rifles kindve sucks but I have the true god roll.. overflow dragonfly is the best thing that can roll on it.. well used to.. you don't need volt shot when you got dragons fly with a 60+ rd mag size. Idk wtf they were thinking with that one lol.. Roland's sitting in the ascendant planes like "really bungo???" 🤣 I feel for those who didn't get that roll a few years back.
I can't find the schedule for what weapons drop weekly in nightfalls this season. Anyone know?
Been using bold endings as copium cuz I missed warden’s law every time it was the NF weapon
Maahes is nice if you want an energy burst. I’ve rolled rapid hit frenzy on one roll.
I have a question, was i wrong to enhance my wardens law god roll that i got that wasnt adept? I already put the trials momento on it so im kind of locked on
nah adept makes very little difference. Roll matters more
is this all for the gm nightfall?
Undercurrent with prox. 1 taps in pvp. Have fun.
i dismantled my godroll pve wardens law by pure accident, glad its back
Never got warderns law beffore TFS grinded nightfalls for about 8 hours but i did get the 4/5 godroll so i cant complain.
Voltshot does not proc stats for all, unfortunately. At least from my testing it didn't.
@@iPlayGamesITA thanks!
What a waste having the sniper rifle on dpuble rewards and glassway - should have been the new Linear or Shadow Price IMO
any suggestions for someone who needs a "stasis" clear, i just want the title, the last one i need
Osmiomancy Warlock build. Can’t go wrong there.
Did u ever get that stasis clear?…if not ill help ya…just lemme know ur bungie n ill run a gm or however many u need tomorrow
18k kills on my old hush…..ground out some gambit till I got a half decent hush with archers gambit….only to be disappointed….not looked online to confirm the numbers but I can tell they nerfed it :( whyyyyyy not like it was OP. Guess I’ll stick to my wolftone warm up + tempo. Such a disappointment.
I can't wait to get a adept Shadow price I was a fool an deleted the prior 2 from before
Gotta wait a whole month to farm warden's, I don't know how I've missed every nightfall week its been featured smh
Shadow Price kinda mid tbh :/ was hoping for an arc Ros Arago (as in, rolls with Onslaught
Wildstyle has been fixed! It now has "autoload!" Everyone gonna line up for that when it comes up.
What perk was replaced for autoloading?
never thought I'd take off Half Truths but Eager Cold Steel Slammer such a clutch piece of utility
I got it last season and, as someone who doesn’t even love swords, I never enter any activity in the game without it in my inventory. It checks so many boxes, good luck grinding!
Literally just focused a wardens law and got the roll he recommended😂
lmao just got wardens with extended, 4th/enlightend and vorpal, reload masterwork
If you have Bait and switch firing line is trash.
Got a undercurrent with eddy current voltshot then amplified, winner winner.🤣🤣🤣
aren't the surges going away?
for raids and dungeons
@@itztizzle dammit
Excited for this video because I love doing GM carries 👏🏽 should be a title for it if the people your helping 1. Have never cleared that nf on gm , or 2. Are way lower power then the actual gm power 😂 i’d have over 200
"Wildstyle, attrition orbs doesnt work on a single shot GL"
Well its a good thing wildstyle is a double shot GL...
It still sucks
Found it 😊
Palindrome when? 😠
😭😭😭😭😭😭
Bring Palindrome back. A lot of these guns are meh
Showprice adept one more month 🤦🏽😅.
Wardens law was the first legendary weapon to ever leave me speechless in this game. The first time I ran it with lucky pants and shredded an unstop champ, my mouth was agape
Sooooo….we have one new weapon: Scintillation! Super lame!