Chinese Bass Trombone Review
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- This is a review of the CG Bass Trombone discussing it's features and giving a general overview of the instrument.
These types of instruments are often available for a low cost and can be a good option for players looking for a low cost entry level trombone
Listing for this instrument: / 668517810385133
Wessex Bass Trombone: wessex-tubas.com/collections/...
Example of eBay listing: ebay.to/3bnmkfJ
I think Schiller also uses that style of bass trombone and the price is cheap. I think $545 for lacquered and $565 for silver
Yes I think you're right. I knew I was forgetting a brand!
Would the Schiller's be worth it if its my 1st bass bone?
@@FirstnameLastname-et3wd Ya if you're just starting off, it should be just fine.
@@theinstrumentman7429 could I start off on a professional one if I've play trombone already?
@@FirstnameLastname-et3wd Ya of course, but it'll be more expensive
Good to hear your presentation and the sound of a Bass Trombone! Thanks! I play a c-Valve-Trombone.
Sounds beautiful!
thanks for the overview
I've been playing this for 15 years. Everything is fine.
nice review
Wow! I wish you could have some how made this 6 years ago before I bought mine. Don't get me wrong, a sub $500 (at the time) double valve bass is an awesome find but... So, the ergonomics critique is spot on. I've tried the Neo Tech brace but it does not paly well with this horn. I'm going to seek out a bullet brace. And where the triggers are located, you and I must have similar hand size because those are exactly my findings - the F trigger is too far away and the Gb is just out of reach. But overall, it sounds good and can bark in the low register. A good horn if you have a tech that can work on it (which, 6 years later, I still need to do). And I had to add a counterweight to the tuning slide to balance the back a bit.
The roughness and noise of the slide may be due to them not polishing it to a high degree.
Many years ago I bought a Bach 42BGO, new from a major dealer. The slide was so rough it felt like paint overspray so I sent it back. The replacement was the same. After several phone calls including a couple to Bach I found out that when CFC solvents were phased out the replacements took much longer to clean parts. To save time and solvent they only lapped the stockings, so ALL the horns came out like mine.
The slide eventually wore in and was smooth and quiet. So yours may get smoother and quieter.
You might think about taking a Styrofoam florists cone and sand it to fit the throat of you bass bone. Then you could use it to compare throat size and taper of other horns, because it makes such a difference in sound.
Cheap is always an attraction.
That's interesting. I'm sure a decent cleaning would've done it some good too. Although you shouldn't sand or lap a trombone slide. A cleaning with some Texas Flush would've helped as well but sometimes, a bad slide is just a bad slide. I didn't want to work on it at the time since I was just evaluating it as-is
@@theinstrumentman7429 Cleaning didn't help mine, only playing it quite often for a few weeks. I'm not sure how long because I got used to it and didn't notice exactly when it smoothed up. I know one complaint of the cheap bones is slide alignment.
I'd love to see a review of different hand braces. I use an ADAMS myself.
Noted! I've got a few different ones lying around so maybe I could do something like that.
for Ergonoic, I think , it's the same as King 7B bad
It's very NICE sound !! That is the Greatest Horn !! Incredible!!!!!
Let’s not get carried away here
Can you link/recommend any braces for the trombone?
Neotech is my personal favorite. It doesn't work for every horn or player but I've found it really great on multiple horns I've owned. There's also the Edwards Bullet Brace or Ax Handle Brace that are pretty much the same thing and those work well too but it didn't take enough pressure off my hand for the kind of playing I was doing. A cheaper option that works well is the Yamaha trombone hand strap which just goes over the mouthpiece receiver area and then over your hand and that worked well on my Bach before I got the neotech. Search around on trombonechat.com for some more options. There's a lot of good threads there
@@theinstrumentman7429 Thank you a lot!!
@@theinstrumentman7429 Also, what type of grip did you use on the bass trombone in the video as I think I have that same Bass Trombone
That one is the ax handle brace from instrument innovations. It was the only one I could get to fit comfortably since the horn has weird ergonomics
Where can I buy one
This one is from Gear4music
www.gear4music.com/us/en/Woodwind-Brass-Strings/Coppergate-Intermediate-Bass-Trombone-By-Gear4music/NYQ
But you can find the same thing with different names (or no name) on ebay and places like that
What kind of mouthpiece did it come with?
It didn't come with one since I got it used
Is that a coppergate by any chance?
No it's a CG brand
@@theinstrumentman7429 , Gear4music's Coppergate brand uses the CG symbol. I own one of their bass trombones that looks very much like the one in your video. I think it is a Coppergate horn. My experience is similar to what you share here. I play as a hobbyist, and my main horn is a tenor. For 350 GBP shipped to the US, this was a no brainer.
Oh alright I didn't know that. I don't come across UK sites very often so that's interesting. Thanks for the info!
I bought one at Gear4Music, yes, Coppergate on the box, the bell is marked CG BTB-500. I have exactly the same experience, the slide grinds a bit but works, the instrument is playable and sounds nice, I play it here: ua-cam.com/video/hMj5s14SL3E/v-deo.html
Bought mine new from gear4music.com for $350. Great horn for the price. I use a denis wick mouthpiece though because it plays better and is more comfortable than the original mouthpiece.
King 8B shape
Neem is een extra lesje die Bordogni vocalises kunnen mooier!