Can Med Reinstatement Improve Symptoms?
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- Why you may consider reinstating your previous medication? Does Reinstatement Reverse Withdrawal Symptoms? How and when should reinstatement be done? When should you avoid reinstatement.
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Just passed 5 years off Xanax, Vicodin, Lexapro and Seroquel….. Finally seeing improvement and am so happy I didn’t reinstate…. I wanted to…..
Great work 👏🏻👍🏻❤️🇦🇺
Thats TOO MUCH MEDICATION 💊 WOW MAL PRACTICE!!! Vicodin & Xanax ?
did you start to feel improvement only after 5 years? Lexapro ruined my life. I took it for a little over a month. It's been over a year since I quit. I suffer from derealization, nausea, balance problems, emotional numbness and sexual dysfunction.
@@timofeykotenko9531 sorry to hear 🙏🏻 The first year was the hardest and the second wasn’t too good either. Each year I improve though. I’m at 5years 9 months. I look back at the journey and can’t believe I got to the other side over time. Fast taper off this crap from my doctor caused so much suffering. It’s hard to deal with the fact this happens to so many. Love and peace to you and your family 🙏🏻🇦🇺
By year 3 I was having windows. I felt I was going to drop dead everyday. Now things are pretty good. Still have bad days but are manageable.
I came off Klonopin abruptly at a detox center. 4.5 months later I reinstated onto Valium per recommendation of my doctor and people on forums. I had an extraordinarily horrible reaction to it with extreme lasting effects. I am now 13 years off and still sick. I have improved since then but it has been HELL.
It's horrible. Needs fixed somehow. They have the science they need to use it.
😢 I'm so sorry
I wonder if u just went back on Klonopin if u would have been ok? Are u still on Valium
@@michelebergman4336 OH no, I've been off all benzos for 13 years. It got so bad, I came off the Valium, was in a hospital for 2 months, then went across the country to see a doctor who was 'benzo wise'. I've wondered the same thing about going back on Klonopin, but no way of knowing. I think it was a kindling effect.
@@michelebergman4336 ahh klonopin is way stronger then the standard valium, that's why people have so much trouble getting off it, a taper is to be directed by the patient not the doctor, going back to klonopin would start kindling, that's the last thing you want, that's why the Ashton Manual tells people how to figure out the taper that best suits there body and mind.
I am 61 years old and have been medicated for panic disorder with xanax and paxil at a high dose for 30 years. I am fully functioning , work a high level job and have no panic attacks . My medications have not been changed in 30 years. I want to live my life out in peace as i am. Prolonged withdrawal sounds like a torture session that would last years. Why would someone my age ...who would like to retire and enjoy my life be forced to go through this terror?
Dr. Josef, will you please address this question?
YES>.Everyone is COMPLETELY different... Ativan completely stopped working for me after 1 week.. so I upped the dose and after 2 weeks it stopped working and I was having severe intersdose withdrawals...You have been lucky... BUT, this class of drugs is VERY bad for you..even without the damage from the withdrawal....I wish you well!!!
No one should be forced off BENZOS if they are content on them
I agree with you. If you’ve been on these meds most of your life and they work for you, you should be allowed to stay on them until you die. Making older people ct or go off these meds quickly Is just cruel and poor practice.
I can only hope and pray it will never poop out on you. I never felt the need to change my klonopin dosage either. I was “only” taking it 1x/day at the end thinking that was better. *see interdose withdrawal. The problem is “continuity of care”. Doctors retire, new doctors only hear “benzos are bad” but do not understand why. The people left on them need protection. There should be laws protecting people from being force cut, but also limiting new patients to 7-14 day PRN RXs. I have friends hurt unimaginably 7-10 years later from “only” taking it two weeks. I first got hurt “only” taking it twice/week and then letting the RX run out. Geraldine Burns introduced a “Massachusetts Benzodiazepine Bill” to the Massachusetts Legislature trying to protect patients like yourself from benzodiazepine injury and benzodiazepine tapering injury. I suggest you find “The Benzodiazepine Information Coalition” on UA-cam and see the testimonies of all the hurt patients. Hurt doctors, nurses. Hurt “regular” people.
People get worried this medication harmed community is going after benzos. Trust me, these people are here to protect you. Doctors retire, while the message still is not clear. They’ll rip people off a benzo and throw people on an antipsychotic in assisted living not understanding people are getting hurt by that process. Especially adding dopamine antagonists that masks some of the injury while ruining you from that moment on.
My reinstatement nearly killed me. Everyone’s story is different. No one person is the same. And there is no way of knowing who it would work for. It’s a gamble.
This injury is so devastating.
4 years out from a ct and I’m still suffering. Kindled to oblivion.
Same here, I found that out the hard way my first time reinstating took me 2 weeks for the withdrawals to subside. Had to be admitted to psych hospital. Unfortunately had a bad reaction to the antidepressant that I was given, had breathing difficulties that was frightening. Switched to a new antidepressant, I know I'm shaking my head at myself. It's just that I was so very desperate as I have been badly harmed by a SSRI. I just wanted my world, my identity my sense of self back. I had to CT because I started to hallucinate, paranoia and hear a voice telling me to jump out of a window along with muscle spasms and feeling manic thanks trazodone.
Same than you. It’s the failed reinstatement that damaged me so much. Sending hugs. 2,5 years off still difficult.
Thank you for your knowledge and compassion. No one else understands, even when I share your videos. They don’t want to hear it. I wish I were in a state where I could get your help. We need more doctors like you.
👍🏻👏🏻🇦🇺❤️✌🏻😕
100% we need more Drs like him all over the planet! There are so so many of us, and most Drs, Psychs etc, know nothing of the damages caused by these and other drugs.
Thank you for responding to the questions your viewers asked. You are a great support and resource.
And it's too messed up to watch these videos and know for years doctors won't listen. Won't look at brain injury. Call you a drug seeker. So on. If someone would simply reinstate I'd be there. The only thing I've found is a costly miserable taper
Try Cerebrolysin. It can be gotten from grey market peptide websites. google "what is cerebrolysin used for in medicine".
And this is why getting off pain killers are so dam important, it's only going to get worse, to hell with kindling, that's an new absolute level that even Satan in hell wouldn't wish on their worst enemy.
He's clueless too.
@treesaremadeofwood2145 pain killers? I'm talking about benzos I'd rather quit pain killers than benzos. Too painful in other ways
@renzagliarobb I went to a benzo group thinking ok finally some people who understand and they wouldn't let me talk. It's ridiculous
It kills me that when I reinstated the clonazepam I was back to normal after about 6 years. Then as soon as it switched to diazapam for ashton taper it's miserable again. I begged for reinstatement and they marked me as a drug seeker so it's even more impossible. I've tried being off for a year after 6mg cold turkey. The only thing that helps is reinstatement. Nobody will. It's torture. Lose my health my family friends everything. I like to think at this point I'm just being targeted to be tortured. It's fuckef up
Yours is a terrible story. Have no words of encouragement but great respect. Wishing you better future.
@Hownow4 thanks. It's hard. Especially when you feel you have a solution to all the madness and no one will take the chance because liability
You reinstated after 6 years and you were back to normal?
Get a dr for EMERGENCY REINSTATEMENT!!!! Of Klonopin
@@michelebergman4336 you can’t reinstate this late at almost 23 months.
Kindling Isa nightmare 😢
@user-ej7mt8ld4t kindling is where the gaba -A receptors are in shock a d when you reintroduce the drug it sends them Into high gear and causes more damage causing a paradoxal reaction to the receptors sites that are all ready damaged and healing mutated I wouldn't wish kindling on my worse enemy good news is we do recover we do heal but where never the same ITS A HOLOCAUST....!!! I DONT USE THAT TERM LIGHTLY ....
What exactly is Kindling in benzodiazepine Protracted syndrome please 🙏
My psychiatrist had to add a smaller dose to stop the psychosis and hallucinations plus seizures that I never had before. I had been on klonopin for 27 years and stopped. I could not have been able to stand the physical and mental pain waiting to get thru another day. Now that I am somewhat stable, my dr. wants to taper me off but I am saying no as I am 70. I was off for 3 months and on 1/2 % of what I was on. I feel nothing like I used to...tired, lethargic...when I used to go out a lot and always making people laugh.
DONOT TAPER IT WILL TORTURE & KILL U! My friend just jumped out a window
Saldy I experienced really severe kindling 5 months no improvements as Serotonin syndrome is no joke, while I reinstated I was also still experiencing withdrawals ontop of that. Who knows if my brain will ever recover as I have been in withdrawals for 8 months now, on May 1st (which is now) it will be 9 months of horrendous withdrawals, everyday is a nightmare. I can't try other antidepressants even at a low dose. This just gets better and better. Not only have I been harmed by Sertraline my neurons are damaged 😢 I am truly sorry for everything that I have done, can I please stop being punished now.
All I want is to reinstate. I was on high dose 6mg and long term clonazapam. I've been trying over 6 years on and off and simply can't get reinstated. Only a miserable taper. It's not right
Are you off now?
@salomerummel6920 I've been on and off for the last 6 years but I initially was on a high dose for a long time. My first time I just lost my doctor and couldn't get another doctor to continue or even taper. Back in 2018 or so I eventually called a helpline and the guy told me the only way to get help would be to say I was suicidal then they would have to give me medical attention. I do that and first thing they say Is no benzos so at that point I put all my faith in to just quitting. I think they gave me one dose the whole week I was in.
After 6 years I finally talk to my family and tell them I need to see a specialist after trying everything else and after we meet he says all he does is taper and if I tried to see any other specialist they would just taper me quicker...
So sorry yeah I'm currently on like 15mg of diazapam a day. Taper 2 mg every 14 days. It's horrible. When he first started me back on clonazapam I could go camping and stuff with my family. Now I'm on diazapam it's just panic attacks throughout the days. Some days are OK then I wake up in a panic so I just don't know what to do. When I'm like this all I do is isolate. Akathesia is horrible.
Last time I was CT'd reinstating helped me. I'm on too high dose to be CT'D. I was off for over 1 year! Plus, I suffer from C-Ptsd. I have to be tapered very slowly. Reinstating saved my life! Now thanks to a corrupt hospital I'm in danger again.😢
@newjerseydevil6115 in 2017-18 they did that ridiculous crackdown on medication, my mom has a host of medical problems and a lot of pain and they took most of her medication away too. Now they've made it e even harder to get your medication you actually need which is ridiculous.
@@newjerseydevil6115 Same here .. on how much are you ?
Thank you. Is that the same with updosing?
Citalopram ruined my life. I took it for a little over a month. It's been over a year since I quit. I suffer from derialization, nausea, ringing in the ears, balance problems, emotional numbness and sexual dysfunction. Only after 8 months did the anorgasmia disappear; after 11 months, the numbness of the genitals improved slightly. Some symptoms, other than sexual and emotional ones, sometimes subside a little, but then return.
How do you measure recovery? Is it self report of symptoms ? Thanks for this video.
Can you please make a video about spellbinding in withdrawal? Thanks 🙏🏼
Thank you for addressing this important topic!
I was told by a psychiatrist similar to him( works in antidepressant and benzo withdrawal) that reinstatement can work up to 2 years off the meds. I was off Wellbutrin (300 mg) and Lexapro 10 mg 1 year + 3 months. I was advised to start at 20 mg Wellbutrin. I immediately had horrible side effects, but I was hoping for improvement in time. Over 2 months I was up to 50 mg, then 75 mg for a week. The whole week on 75 mg I was a rageaholic, and developed severe akathesia!! 😳😳I was up all night shaking and pacing and panicking. Now I was terrified of coming off too quickly but I had to stop immediately. The side effects went away and my protracted damage remained. It is now 2 years 1 month off cold turkey of the 2 meds (advice from a coach) and starting to feel a bit better.
This is valuable information...thanks for putting it out her.
🙏 Thank you
He’s correct. If you get too far out, it’s really a new set of symptoms that doesn’t respond to the medication the same way because the brain is damaged. It feels like it might be (partially) saving you but it usually never works the same. You’ll sit and slowly worsen your baseline and then need to come off. You often wind up one notch worse. I had 3 quick taper jump attempts where I reinstated 9-15 days. I kept reinstating ever lower and banging my head against tolerance until I finally broke through. (Using my head apparently, because I finally pushed through and did not reinstate.) I think I SHOULD have, but that’s a coulda shoulda woulda. I got impatient and quick tapered the last 0.75mg/day of Klonopin over 45 days. I pushed passed the 15 day mark things started to explode. By day 90, I was asking for brain MRIs and physically got one by day 120. Showed nothing. The tinnitus explosion was from another planet.
I was roughly 6-7 months out after being cold turkeyed off of 6 psych meds including klonopin all taken daily for a year and a half. the only way was to reinstate and updose klonopin and go back on anafranil. it saved my life. I wouldn't have survived without reinstatement. Slowly tapering and almost off it all and it's soooo much better. It took me roughly 2 months or so for the pain to stop after reinstating. It was hard but I was a severe case....it worked.
@@4GSLmusic I tell everyone there are different levels to these injuries. Most of my worst symptoms always erupted months after I was off, doing exactly what you describe. I was always pushed back to paincare by 2 years off. The pain med would go sideways faster and faster like everything else. Anything that helped, I had to taper in the end. Even after only a few days. I’d take hydrocodone for one day and spend a week tapering out of it. The pain got so bad I had to try and stay on the opiate. I’d eventually have to taper and bring on a benzodiazepine to help. I’d come off both and shit would erupt again.
I hope you are like Nicole Lamberson PA. She reinstated at 4 months in raging akathisia and tapered over 18 mths and her akathisia was gone. Of course she still has all kinds of leg pain over 12 years later. I have seen more people reinstate and end up worse and trapped trying to taper. It’s a very risky maneuver. I have reinstated daily benzos 3-4 significant times. I probably have a dozen actual kindles. Most of my friends in chronic akathisia who reinstated the benzo to taper more slowly have regretted that decision with every ounce of their being. My friend Samantha had to go to Switzerland after reinstating 9 months off. She tried bringing on Mirtazapine for sleep at 5 months and then brought Ativan back at 9 months off. She could not survive another taper and was slowly worsening.
It’s really about how much you got hurt. These meds do not work the same once injured and can worsen you in ways they didn’t before. Once your dopamine is deregulated and down regulated, everything will work differently. Once your dopamine system is hurt, even hormones or food will react differently. People can become intolerant to nearly any substance or food or otherwise. Histamine centers get ruined.
I do believe some people are just prone to these tardive symptoms after coming off, but I do think those same people can make it infinitely worse if that stuff is going to happen each time.
Too far out? It doesn't matter. These are reactions, not withdrawals. The time off is irrelevant.
Exactly the information I've been looking for the past few days. Thank you!
Thank you for being a beacon of light for the public and not bought by pharmaceutical companies.
You said it all! Thank you for getting into this subject. It's hard to find the balance.
So I’m at 22 months and my brain feels fried every day. I guess I have neuron damage.
Yes but it will get better after 4 years…
@@michelebergman4336 oh hell no, I don’t have that much time.
Once the damage is revealed , reinstating only temporarily masks the damage. Tapering can even be more difficult with new and more difficult symptoms with each reinstatement.
Reinstating saved my life after being cold turkeyed off 6 psych drugs. one was klonopin....after taking them for 1.5 years daily...and having been polydrugged on 27 drugs (2-4 drugs at a time cocktail)....The withdrawal was getting worse daily and I couldn't do it anymore.... I had to reinstate and I'm thankful I did. the pain took roughly 2 months for it to stop....I'm almost fully tapered off but did it much slower this time...and it's worked.... it's been so much better and I'm going to school to be a pmhnp now to help patients like us...and also to help some who do need meds.
Thank you for your fantastic information! Would you please share the research about the damaged neurons?
I was ridiculed by the pharmacist when I talked about hyperbolic tapering or distinctions between the relapse and withdrawal symptoms. I printed out the research and presented it for the credential findings. And although it’s totally make sense about the neuron damage, I have never find the words from my reading.
Please reply with the link about the research of everything I stated in the videos. We are struggling with old guidelines the pharmacists and doctors follow.
Thank you again for your support!!!
Once neurons die, that's it for them. They do not grow back
Thanks Doc, you are the best!!!
Interesting video unfortunately for me and many others we are in a severe protracted state from Benzodiazepines injury!
Does anyone else have experience teeth numb tight sensation?
Can you talk about how to count and weigh venlafaxine beads that are micro beads that have at times crack pieces or two stuck together ? Please .
A month isn't long enough to see if reinstatement is working or not. On an antidepressants withdrawal support group many have taken a few months to see improvements or even got back to feeling normal
Pretty good
Dr Josef, could you please talk about assisted suicide for mental health going on in The Netherlands and Canada? Zoraya Ter Beek is scheduled to die by euthanasia this May. She went from psych meds, to electroconvulsive therapy, to now assisted suicide. 3 doctors have signed off on her death. I don't know how anyone hasn't considered iatrogenic harm for her case. It's now the meds>ect>assisted suicide pipeline.
Same os with updosing.. I was down to 2.6 mg Valium from 13mg- felt so miserable.. updised and never felt normal ever since .
Tell the DEA and Andrew Kolodny
I know it does in my case.
Any chance your clinic will get licensed in Oklahoma?
Any help in Toronto, Ontario, Canada?
Honestly scared but i want to believe i can heal
Are u completely off? How long ?
I know you’re playing with camera angle but we are in a new era the interview angle only works if someone is actually interviewing you and you need to be looking over the shoulder of the interviewer-it’s ok just to look straight at the camera the switch in angle is not needed so feel gratuitous and distracting-what you have to say is way more important-I think it’s ok just to stick with the straight shot talking directly to the viewer plus it adds the dimension that we are getting a real up and close conversation of a doctor. Your personal style and empathetic approach comes through and it is very comforting-what we don’t get from most doctors these days
Reinstatements (Lyrica, Klonopin, Ambien...) never helped me therefore worsened my symptoms... at any dosage!
I am so damn glad to be off of all psych meds by now... they just made me sicker and never helped. I just had paradoxicalreactions on any of them...still have Protracted withdrawal but doing quite well though most of the time. Far Better than being on the meds!
It’s been almost 4 years, I’d be terrified to reinstate in spite of my protracted issues I still suffer with. (benzodiazepines & effexor)
Just to share my story. I reinstated after 2 months off. I had an adverse reaction (severe akathesia) which my psychiatrist told me was just the normal start up effect. He told me to take 2 Xanax a day and to stop complaining basically. Except this was not the normal start up effect. It was an adverse dangerous reaction. I quit after 3 weeks. 2 years and 4 months off I am still struggling with PAWS.
How does this call neuron damage for some people??
I bought some vitamins I saw that supposedly help with neuron damage.. I hope they help. In the benzo withdrawal manual by Heather Ashton she said supplements and vitamins work.
Be incredibly careful because many of these can also make your withdrawals worse. If you ve suffered neuron damage often the brain simply won't accept other toxins...so it reacts...and can make things worse. Why some people can't even drink coffee when going through protracted withdrawal. Best of luck.
@@steph7960 if that’s the case, why are these vitamins advertised on here for neuron damage? I spent 22 months suffering from this only declining, not taking medication, no vitamins, no medication for even a cold. Something’s got to give.
You keep talking about YEARS of use... I only took Ativan for about 2 weeks and had almost 3 years of severe symptoms with a VERY slow taper. BUT... I completely agree that is is DAMAGE....not withdrawal.
Can attest to a similar experience in a different class of drugs, albeit a few months, 3 to be precise. The only thing that makes me feel better is being dead on with detox, diet and a fierce schedule so I don't slow down and fall into the physical/psychosomatic mauling I experienced. Not a victim, but my time on a drug and DROPPED off it suddenly has certainly, without a doubt changed my entire life path.
What if someone is 10 months off and things instead of improving or staying constant things are getting worse? Why is body getting worse? Is the glutamate rush in the morning neurotoxic to the nervous cells and they keep on getting weaker and weaker?
I got way worse at months 9-11. I'm at month 16 now into month 17. My symptoms have evened out but are still noticeable but incrementally getting better. It isn't linear though. It's like 2 steps forward 1 step back type of progress. I'd give it another couple months to see how you feel. If it continues to get worse maybe reinstating would be worth a shot. I was on for 22 years in addition to other substances in that time frame as well. I often have days where I feel stuck and feel like this is my new normal and then other days I feel like my old self again. It's hard to know what normal is for me because I was on SSRIs from the age of 17 to 39. I do know I never felt like this before medication. I was simply experiencing depression and anxiety in my teenage years, which most of us do... I'm not fully healed and sometimes I'm wary of sharing advice in my fragile state but I hope this helps you a little bit. Keep fighting. We all need to keep fighting. We're in this together.
At least Dr Witt Doering said it's neuronal damage for those who with protracted withdrawal , Melissa boutlier will claim ppl who don't recover within timeline had "underlying medical issues", how vicious. I did full health check up and everything is ok, all attributed to neuronal damage. Pls trust Dr Witt Doering than some uninformed bitchy coaches
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@@briank1263 Thanks for sharing your experience. Person im talking about is not dealing with ssri withdrawal but benzo only one. I guess gotta hope its some macro storm before some future window but we'll see. Cheers. Good luck with your recovery.
I don’t think I can. It’s been a year and I’m hurting.
Do the damaged neurons eventually recover?
It’s been 23 months for me. No.
Everyone is different. Some are a lot less..some more. Everyone's biology is different.
Im sorry. What are your symptoms?
@@DP-vz2su mine are chronic brain pressure and tightness and pulsating for 23 months now, a dumb down feeling, chronic dry eyes, eye pain, can’t drive, not able to cry, feel pleasure, lost all my pretty hair, body looks horrible now.
Sounds horrific. Can I ask how quickly you tapered and from which drug?
Wish I/ my dr would have known better all those years ago. Many rushed tapers/ reinstatements/ dose changes etc. Im stuck in a world of torture trying to taper a drug my body doesn’t seem to need.
I have doctors telling me to reinstate 7 years latter 😢 nope
So is he saying we should have no WD or symptoms or anything after 3 months off? Is he kidding?!
It is true that SSRI/SNRIs generally have quite mild side effects. The most common side effects include nausea, dizziness, sleep problems, and dry mouth. In most cases, these side effects are mild and go away on their own.
However, it is also true that a smaller portion of users may experience more serious side effects, such as agitation, mania, suicidal thoughts, and sexual problems. It is also important to remember that it can be difficult to discontinue SSRI/SNRI treatment, and some people may experience withdrawal symptoms such as fatigue, anxiety, and dizziness.
You mention that older antidepressants (TCAs, MAOIs, Mianserin) do not generally have these problems. This is partially true. These medications can be effective for some people, but they often have more and more serious side effects than SSRIs/SNRIs. They can also be dangerous if combined with certain other medications or alcohol.
I agree that it is important to be critical of the pharmaceutical industry and that you should not blindly believe everything you hear. But I think it is wrong to scare people away from using antidepressants. These medications can be very helpful for people who suffer from depression and anxiety. They can save lives and improve the quality of life for many people.
Using antidepressants and benzodiazepines the right way
Antidepressants and benzodiazepines are two types of medication that are often used to treat depression and anxiety. While they can be effective for many people, it is important to use them the right way to avoid side effects and dependence.
Right dose: It is important to take the right dose of antidepressants and benzodiazepines. Taking too little may not make the medication work, while taking too much can cause serious side effects. A doctor can help you determine the right dose for you.
Right patient: Antidepressants and benzodiazepines are not right for everyone. They should not be used by people who are pregnant or breastfeeding, or who have certain medical conditions. A doctor can determine if these medications are right for you.
Right duration: Antidepressants and benzodiazepines should only be taken for as long as needed. Taking them longer than necessary can increase the risk of side effects and dependence. A doctor can help you determine how long you should take these medications.
Use with other medications: Antidepressants and benzodiazepines can interact with other medications you are taking. It is important to tell your doctor about all the medications you are taking, including prescription medications, over-the-counter medications, and supplements.
Are you a doctor? Dr. Josef is a psychiatrist..he's worked for the FDA and the pharmaceutical companies...he knows what he is talking about..he does not try to scare people from taking these drugs..he has stated that....his mission is to help people who are suffering from withdrawal and who are seeking help and can find none b/c their own doctors are ill-informed or unwilling to help.
If you are unaware of his credentials and/or are uninformed about him you should consider removing your remarks b/c they are counter-productive to the audience who watches these videos... you are not only confusing people who need help, you might be unintentionally harming them. They're past the point of the basics which you outline in your comment. They need help and aren't getting it.
This comment has nothing to do with the video.
@@kmkeenan I replied to that comment too and it got removed...maybe I can post it in my comment to you and it won't get removed...I said: Are you a doctor? Dr. Josef is a psychiatrist..he's worked for the FDA and the pharmaceutical companies...he knows what he is talking about..he does not try to scare people from taking these drugs..he has stated that....his mission is to help people who are suffering from withdrawal and who are seeking help and can find none b/c their own doctors are ill-informed or unwilling to help. If you are unaware of his credentials and/or are uninformed about him you should consider removing your remarks b/c they are counter-productive to the audience who watches these videos... you are not only confusing people who need help, you might be unintentionally harming them. They're past the point of the basics which you outline in your comment. They need help and aren't getting it.
Are you a doctor? Dr. Josef is a psychiatrist..he's worked for the FDA and the pharmaceutical companies...he knows what he is talking about..he does not try to scare people from taking these drugs..he has stated that....his mission is to help people who are suffering from withdrawal and who are seeking help and can find none b/c their own doctors are ill-informed or unwilling to help. If you are unaware of his credentials and/or are uninformed about him you should consider removing your remarks b/c they are counter-productive to the audience who watches these videos... you are not only confusing people who need help, you might be unintentionally harming them. They're past the point of the basics which you outline in your comment. They need help and aren't getting it.
Fast tapered last summer from 1 mg klonopin. Reduced by .25 mg every couple of weeks down to .125 for a week then jumped off. It was hell! I thought I was dying. I reinstated at .25 and that wasn’t any better. I went up to 1 mg and felt like a zombie. So I went to .75 and it took two solid months to stabilize. But I started a water taper immediately from .75. Now at .18 mg. I’m almost done! I suggest a 75% reinstatement. Then taper. Of course, it’s different for everyone, and reinstatement will take time for you to become stable.
For note, I was only completely off for maybe 2-3 weeks before reinstating. My taper has had ups and downs, but I’m sleeping and can drive short distances. I can cook dinner and take long walks in the park. I hope this is a positive outlook when I jump off again.
You could be reacting, and waiting to stabilize will permanently damage you. Terrible advice.
No
I read they there are vitamins for neuron damage. Is that true?
The only thing for neuron damage is time. Vitamins and supplements are simply more toxins you are introducing to your system
@@steph7960 I’ve given it time and it’s only made it worse. No medications no vitamins have made my condition worse.
Face it: Nobody has the answer. Best we can do is listen to our own bodies and fade out the assorted platitudes.
Not a small subset of people. You just don’t know about us because we have faded into the background. And it’s not years on the drug, it can be months on the drug and years in protracted. Truthfully, you all have no idea what these drugs are doing to us. No clue. You can make educated guesses based on what you see, but you are not seeing the whole picture, just your very narrow slice of this world.
No, it is not guaranteed to work. Updosing and reinstating is not advisable
No need for the video. X
My daughter stopped again and was re-hospitalized - they unfortunately, forced massive dozes.