Budget Motorized Bike Hybrid Southern Custom CC
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- Today we take the new Southern Custom CC Hybrid motor out for a rip.
I will give some important thoughts that new builders need to know about hybrids, as well as my own opinion about this particular motor.
These motors will be found here when they hit the market in the next 1-2 months. www.southerncustomcc.com/engines
The estimated price for this motor is about $325.00
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Some videos ago i said that you should not use a carb over 16 mm. At 3:25 there is the reason i said that
@@fabiotiburzi This is the carb I was recommended to use by SCcc. But thanks for the heads up :)
@@LAHover that carb is for max power, not for driveability
@@fabiotiburzi most minarelli cylinder manufacturers rec 19mm to 21mm carb.
You still got the humourless 16yr old chat Nazi running your discord, you know the one that has no social skills or understanding of humour that loves hitting the ban button?? That doesn't have a running bike
I'm 100% in agreement with "practical power". I'm more interested in being able to accelerate with traffic, climb hills, and pull out of the way if needed. Top speed is irrelevant when the bike stability and integrity is in jeopardy. If I want to go faster than 40mph, I'd much rather do it on a motorcycle.
Don’t sell yourself short bro I’ve Learned a lot from your channel I appreciate every bit of it ty
2yrs ago "I lack the ability to do that" and here we are today, you've taught me everything I know. Hughes taught me what ain't important, you taught me what is, Hughes taught me how to take em apart, you taught me how to put em together. Thank you, both.
Getting excited when getting my fix from LA HOVER is my entertainment for the day...
Wife is well aware not to disturb while watching the professor in motorized bicycle enthusiast channel giving us his honest thoughts and awesome senic rides...
Thank you for your constant videos...!!!!!
P.S. DON'T FORGET THE CARROTS..!!!!
lol nice, and thanks :)
Yes I'm with you on that "practical power" thing, crashing over 40 definitely screws you up.
BT100 with proper port matching and crank stuffing, with a piagio pipe and tuned on a 36 tooth, max speed 52 mph.
Crashing at 45mph can get you a plate and seven titanium pins in your wrist and a couple months recovery,,, personal experience Oct 4 21,, I rode my rebuilt bike yesterday for the first time since
@@artofdisguy3401 stay safe I know how it can be, I wasn't able to walk right for about three months. It did give me time off to start my channel though.
@@JMB676 who sang that ' l fall to peices ' 25mph fast enough on a bicycle for me but sure is alotta fun tho
@@JMB676 yeah bro it was a hit and run from behind,,all good he got caught and nowisin the process of being sued,,, should be a good payout for the pain and suffering😉
Stay safe, always have a GoPro running as you ride and a Brain Bucket
@@sundial6919 30mph is where I usually cruise at and that seems fast any more but you right even 25 is a lot of fun if the throttle is really snappy.
You are so right on so many things I don't know where to start, so I won't lol.
From all of the motorized bicycle Facebook groups I'm in, I tend to learn more from you simply because of your Honest, hands-on experience. I emphasize Honest for obvious reasons. Thank you for all you do my friend.
Thanks for the ride.
Always make sure the eczost is smoking and you won't lock up! This hole video shows 1 good puff of smoke. If you want to run it lean add extra iol. It won't lock up. 20 to 1 if it takes it. Make her smoke
Awesome video! And great ride!
Great video bro I have to agree fully with this video n I also agree that a minarelli is not the type of motor you want to go for top speed on a trail or your asking for it but people that never had one don’t understand the power videos don’t do it justice n people still try n compare with a regular motor kit not realizing there is a big difference n the minarelli is very picky about how it’s tuned n set up anyway keep up the good work bro
Thanks Evil :)
Welcome bro
Great stuff sir
Like you I don't care about top speed but love power on demand. I may consider a advancing the timing on the mag. As well run richer with an improved head. Great job brother. Looking forward to the next one. Best to the pooch and a big thanks to the misses for supporting you in our my new hobby as I am looking forward to the first build. 😊
Awesome video and totally agree. Thank you for you insight, time, and expertise.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks :)
Id like to thank you for getting me into this hobby. I recently just completed building my first 2 stroke bike. Its awesome
@@MrThatnativeguy im beginning to see that. Also any tips on why a motor might be leaning to the left when mounted? I cant budge it, its not loose, but when under load it seems to lean over
Good long video thanks. Good stress reliever after getting a 3k car repair bill.
The dead zone is (i think) caused by a carb switching the flow from pilot to the main jet. It's about having a big carb on a small engine, the dead spot is more noticeable. You'd have to use a carb with no pilot jet to get rid of it but it would lose bottom end in general
I would have never figured that out on my own, thanks!
Hmmm ..now that makes sense.. very interesting...
How hard would it be to have a fuel injection system...????
Tillitson
@@novavroomvroom2979 It would be pretty difficult. You'd have to have a fuel pump to pressurize fuel to an injector, a controller that monitors engine temp, air temp, ignition timing, mass airflow to the intake, and drive the injector at the right time with the correct amount of dwell according to the sensor data.
Yes, on an automotive carb its called " idle tip in " and that is why automobile carbs have " accelerator pumps " ( little squirt of fuel when the throttle is opened ) a carb that is too big for the motor indeed leaves a huge problem with throttle response. Many good books on the subject at your local library.. thanks for the video...oh don't forget the carrots...
Great item! Would highly recommend!
A needle taper has various pitches and where the transition from pilot jet to needle happens, it may be slightly too lean, and as the needle rises, the taper becomes more optimal for the a/f ratio. My 98 cr125 after modification needed a different needle pitch for the same reason. Stock, the pilot to needle transition was good, the mid was too rich, then it transitioned to a properly sized main jet. With a new needle, once warmed up, the jetting was spot on. I only changed the clip position below 68 and above 85 degrees f
The phantom 85 is in stock again with the upgrade. Got one last week to test.
I got mine today
I agree, I like fast, power on demand for getting out of its own way. I myself had a bad crash about a month and half ago and at 40mph is no joke. Helmet was ripped off, gloves ripped off sweat shirt over my head. 10 staples back of the head, knuckle sewn back on. Back to work 2 days later, trust me practical is key
Congratulations on 14k subscribers!
Thank you so much 😀
@@LAHover Your welcome
This motor has more than I thought...it vibrated my gas tank sideways....40 tooth lifted my front tire off the ground on a 26in diamondback....she is a handful..ok now carb...I've heard that you can drill out the pilot like the oko..and I had fuel coming out of the nipple thought I was a leak but it just a vent????....scary but boy she's fun
Very good commentary on the videos
Wow best advice of the video is amazing and its not even bike related: "never buy anything you cant afford to replace"
Genius
Yay, another motor I can't get! Great motor though. I need one anyway.
You are close in tuning with the heat tempter gun, Look at some videos on RC racer motor tuning using the tempter gun. They measure the heat of the head and exhaust. The tip I can give you is,
A lean motor will be a hotter temp. then a rich temp. It will swing about 5deg. in temp. I can not tell you what a ball park temp should be. Conditions such as outside air temp. can threw off readings.
So try this. Start the motor and run it around the block for 5 min. Read the head temp. right next to the spark plug. also one reading on the exhaust as it leaves the cylinder. You now have a base line to work with. Next make your adjustment. Remember the leaner it gets the hotter the head and exhaust will be. Lowering the temp. just 2deg. will get you to a safe setting. Good luck my friend.
Thank you for your vedo bc im buying the 85 cc
Thank you for another video appreciate that continue doing more I love all your videos so I am subscribed to you
I will have e to say if you get an aluminum cylinder like an Athena, Airsol or stage 6 they are much more forgiving . You don't have the cold seize issues.
Thanks for the tip :)
I like the idea of more sometimes like in this case interest would bring me to top speed but in reality I'd be more likely to appreciate the bottom end in through the PowerBar maby somewhere like 70 or 80 percent oh its power .
My theorie is to have more use less hopefully living longer
Nice video.
13:27 woof went under xD haahahhah thank god you were wearing jacket gloves helmet boots and staying safe ! Nice
I like it... We need to look into a mechanical injection system...!!!!
That's one thing that's important to me. More than top speed is dependability and long-term use rather than top speed
Yeah my bolts for my back sprocket back out when I was going slow. It locked up the wheel and made me almost crash. It has a hub mount very scary
Scary stuff!
19:24 those gloves are nice heavy duty :o :P
Also when someone says balanced crank they are balanced for a certain rpm. There is no crank that is perfectly balanced crank for all rpm. It can come close with a custom crank but otherwise there will always be a balanced crank thst will vibrate at certain rpms.
Good to know, thanks. The crank on my first hybrid motor is one I balanced, and it feels nice and smooth in the rpm ranges that I run it. This one just feels off when it climbs into higher RPMs.
I have been tuning choppers for years and an opened up engine always requires bigger idle and main jets, the needle is mostly for altitude ,
With that said just lean to read your plugs and jet accordingly. Remember lean is 🔥🥵 rich is cool and gummed up.
Low rpm can create a turbulence when ports aren’t matched well. Most likely your problem dead zone is intake port matching poorly .
How fast is 'fast enough'? LOL..Had to.An apple would really make the horse smile.Great info as always.TY for taking the time to teach us new stuff.I've looked at different fans for a couple years,to turn on when idling at traffic stops,etc and haven't foundwhat I want.There's a few 'turbine'looking blowers(squirrel cage with inlet in center and high flow end outlet), for computers though,that use 5volts and blow Allot.Now that I've been trying to buy 1,I can't find the 1 I want online, of course.Any wreck you can limp away from still hurts.I was barely doing 10mph and hit ice,last winter and rebroke 1 of the ribs I'd broke the previous April.Still 1-1/2 mile of gravel and trail to home left.If it hadn't been so dark I'd have been going faster.
Ouch! hope it healed up stron.
@@LAHover Actually took until mid-April last year.Breathing really seems to put a crimp in ribs sticking together.Thanks.Still holding.:)2 years with 3 broken ribs can drag a person down,but I still joke about it.(they aren't rib ticklers though..I'll see myself out now)
The word you're looking for is "soft seize" seems to be common with the Minarellis if you run them lean
Thank you for the correction :)
Finally purchased my 1st kit the zeda firestorm 80 triple 40.muffler wont fit. Having bend it. Get me a flexpipe maybe.
I almost died with (ruptured appendix going 0mph) ram handle style bar in gut.👌 Safety first
Ps alcohol was involved.!!!
Mix it 40 to 1 and you don't change the air only the needle on the throttle there should be lines on it for different settings and always check for air leaks and make sure your gas line don't have any play because if you have to long of hose you get air in your line just a few tips and if you need your older motors to get more power make sure to put a couple holes in your air filter unless you run it without one and your pipe would give more power less back prusure more power will gain so you have good speed and take off
You just start to except destroying the spokes. Once you start breaking them often enough you get very good at fixing them and it kinda starts to feel like "normal maintenance" lol. Trust me I know.
I Know one things forsure a well maintained china doll can just about last anything you put it through longest trip I've been on was 38mi. At probably 40mph on the hwy the whole way
Also got a brand new gas frame still in the box but not going to put the engine on it until I get the engine running right again.
Have you, or anyone else, ever changed the China doll motor around so that the intake is on the front of the bike? Seems to me it would take the heat away from the motor quicker. And cool the carb and intake better.
I got a new chinadoll and it's my second one I put mz65 clone pipe high compression head and a G2 reed kit with pz20 carb and my crank seals went bad. Got a huge air leak and can't ride it without fear of burning it up cuz I put so much money into it so far. I'm out of work and right now I know it's hard to believe I can't afford anything right now not even seals. Because of bills that need to be paid.
You wont have any of those wheel issues on mags, the confidence in having a sealed bearing in your 40mph+ bike wheels is unmatched. I like the look of wired wheels but my best experience has been with mags
im wondering if running 91 oct gas and good high quality oil at 32 instead of 40 would help the seize issue? keep up the great work my dude.see me bothering you lead to saving your life! should be expecting that sticker and valve cap pack any day now :)
Worth a shot :) thanks! Will be sitting down to work on the stickers in a few days.
@@LAHover I have a question. I have tried to e-mail DLH several times with my contact info and never get any reply. His Website has no contact information other then Email. You would think that a business would have a real phone number if they were doing business for the public and wanted to sell parts etc.... And most of his inventory is Out of Stock. How are You able to contact him? Thanks for your help. PS this bike looks like a lot of fun.Also can you just drill out the head studs and Tap in new *mm studs? I have one still in the box that I need to do that to.Cheers DC.👍
Like what is close to being the most dependable for daily use
What's the oil/gas ratio. Try lucas semi synthetic and premium gas. Keeps the predetonation down and helps with the vibration.
32:1
Hey LA Hover! Could you please do a video showing us how you mount your 360° camera for when you ride??? Thanks 👍
ua-cam.com/video/8ap_Fcl6nOw/v-deo.html in this video I have it slid through my back pack. Some times I'll slide it through my belt loops.
@@LAHover Ok! Thanks man! I really appreciate it 🙏
Oh and window piston but can't wait to get some new seals cuz it's just collecting dust and it's sad to see because of all the money I sunk into it.
Man I just want a engine that we can open up and not worry Abt pistons or jugs breaking.these engines been ars for some time now and it seems like no one can get em rite yet definitely should have 8 mm studs and this one looks like it would be really sweet.i dnt get how chainsaws can run high as hell. For a hr but these things ??
Would this engine or the go max version be a better choice?
The practical power seems wild for such a machine, thanks for the upload! Really happy to see it's coming along like it is and hopefully the newfound issues will resolve easily. I just uploaded an idle of my bike recently that you inspired me to build! He now has 750 miles run and it may not sound the greatest but I'm proud of what it's achieved!
ua-cam.com/video/Ndb9Z2lZNSQ/v-deo.html
Thank you for all of your videos and I hope to watch more of your uploads in the near future, stay safe and keep on buzzin!
Heat isn't normally an issue for the intake. Gas naturally cools and mixed wirh air it cools alot better then most think. Unless you absolutely overheat the engine intake heat isn't a problem. There is also intake insulators that will seperate the intake from the cylinder that will help if heat is an issue.
I ran Smolik Performance setup Kurt .. ill do a video on the heat thats built up .. this intake is totally different from mine and Ethans, Ethan offers a Heat shield gasket trying to dissipate heat . I know my Smolik Performance intake got hot , it's directly bolted on to cylinder runs same temperature as cylinder does ...... and that's hot
Hey I got a chinadoll you recommended about a week ago, theres a visible gap between the cylinder head and jug, so I'm going to lap and sand it down, any advice?
That gap is 100% normal. The sealing ring is only about 5mm wide on the inter diameter of the head.
I dnt know I think the anbull 50 mm piston engine is rite there with the phantom "52"piston it's a 51 mm point something
Question for ya hover how did you get that can to the muffler I've put one on before but kept falling off
I just slid the ends together and clamped it with heater hose. Than I strapped it to the frame.
Put a cooling system in the front see that helps
@La_Hover_Bikes Warning!!! I pre ordered an f-zero like the the Loki build and the rear sprocket bolts backing out never stops being and issue I eventually had to remove the rear break and drill it and reinforce the hub for it to stay safe please take this warning before we see you crash at 45mph because I already had my rear wheel lock up when the screws eventually broke I told bike berry and they don’t care I’ve talked to others with the f-zero and this is an issue across the board please find a way to be safe before continuing to push it because we don’t need to see you get hurt. Respectfully a fan and fellow builder.
You mentioned about paying the price for a so called “performance head”? Don’t waste your money, do your research. There is nothing on one of the heavy, over priced chunks of aluminum that will get you performance, bottom line. They are heavier, fins are thicker so therefore they hold more heat than disperse. Really, do some research and save your money and spend it on something useful like better rims or tires.
I like this video, first one I watched, because of your honesty. I’m sure nobody will offer you a product for product review. They wouldn’t like the negative opinion they would get. But this is exactly what consumers need to hear, and listen to. I’ve spent a good deal of loot on these things and I’ve learned from trial and error. I am the mechanic everyone that has a motorized bike comes to that knows me. That’s one more thing, if you aren’t mechanically inclined, don’t jump feet first into a build without having proper knowledge available. It’s not a matter of if it breaks, it’s a matter of WHEN it breaks.
Thanks for the video.
smolik head is good
I need a start to finish How to build your own performance motor with parts list
review a jackshaft kit
I think the loss in power you're feeling is just your releasing the clutch and that will make the rpm drop so you need to give more gas when letting off the clutch
Thanks for the tip.
So, what does hybrid mean in this case?
😅 lokie found a way to get mischievious on ya 😅🤣 be careful an watch your step my friend 😅🤣😅
"you can enjoy a nice performance motor without trying to cheat death every second youre riding it"
What kind of chain tensioner do you have?
Spring clutch cover
There seems to no longer be any mention of the hybrid on their website!
Delayed, they are putting heavy duty needle bearings in, and adding a different head for better cooling.
I bought quick silver 2 stroke and it makes ok fast u can get it at AutoZone for ten bucks u should try it
You produce a good video, don't let the jug heads get to ya.
Hey man don't forget the cat next time
I gna make a windshield to catch Ari for Ard the engine
Спасибо
What kind of camera are you using
Side view is a "Insta 360 One x 2"
Chest view is a hero 7 black
Hey LA hover just a question.
Do you find that the smell of gas when working on a bike bothers you?
I know it does to me.
Not really. Unless it's old gas... 🤢
@@LAHover i kinda made my vertigo really bad aka feeling dizzy
@@keeganhache6667 can't help that winter forces us to work on bike inside... :/
hows this vs the phantom 85?
😑 1:50 🤦♂️
If it runs excessively hot you always want to run rich to help cool
Hello,
Why do you put a can on the rear of your exhaust?
Just for fun. :)
@@LAHover :P
yep better safe than sorry
your throttle cable may be slightly loose
Is this motor the same as Gomax?
I think so, my memory is junk but I remember seeing some information about SCcc working with gomax. I think they also supply the adapted MZ65 pipes.
what exatly makes this a hybrid?
cylinder from scooter
We're do I get me one at
He updated them, they come with the mz65 and vm20. www.southerncustomcc.com/product-page/minarelli-hybrid-79cc-w-mz65-tuned-exhaust
Why it called hybrid?
Scooter top end on a motorized bike bottom end. They are finicky little motors unless you know what you are doing... But they are STRONG!
You only get one shot at life don't be careless with it
Hough's motors,look up
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I always run that needle with the clip in the middle and then jet to run properly
Possibly a poorly crafted n contoured needle valve....?
Heck if I know, but thanks for the feedback.
Now where’s the burger
Look for this week's LD100 video ;)
@@LAHover is it out or coming out?
@@paullehman8652 next video if all goes to plan
@@LAHover oh can’t wait to see it
@@LAHover I uploaded 2 new videos
Hi guys this is not hybrid where is the battery
Wrong kind of hybrid. The word "hybrid" is not exclusive, and does in fact cover much more than than one combination...
Bring a carrot for the horse.
I wonder what It will sound like with a motorcycle exhaust
Although a two stroke can run decent without a tuned pipe, they won't make nearly as much power without one. So putting a anything else on it would just be for show/sound.
Cut out the bad middle man and just go to fastbike cause that's the company who will supply the kit