Im part of the Avocademy course as well and I am way more behind than you were due to the fact that I have a full time job and it is hard to balance the course. One of the problem I had is that different mentors give different feedback to Activities and it gets confusing at times. I love how the mentors are thoughtful and caring about the success of their students. I am still dedicated to learning a new skill to one day get a different job than my current role as of now. I wish you the best of luck trying to get a job in the field
Yep, I noticed sometimes I would get varied feedback as well. It's probably difficult to make that consistent though. Good luck to you, keep working at it, no matter how behind you are! Its not a race :)
@@jansleyreal The good thing is that the mentors are using Loom videos as part of their feedback to students which is a really big plus because they are taking the time to show you what needs to be fixed instead of using comments on Figma.
I experienced this is as well, I was pretty behind myself. I didn't finish until a couple days ago on the 23rd. Your second sentence hits the nail on the head, all through the research process I had mentors providing different insight which made feel as though I was doing something wrong.
Career Jumpstart has been good to me so far! Lots of work but it seems do-able so far with the skills you’re taught in foundation. I also frequently ask previous mentors from foundations for help and resources. They are quick to provide responses and often offer to setup video chats for further help or even just to vent!
@@jansleyreal I don’t comment often! Wasn’t aware I’d received a response 😬 I’m currently working through my second project in career jumpstart. It’s been manageable so far but I’m a stay at home dad with a 2 year old and a 2 WEEK old. Different workload than a FT job. Individual Responsibilities within the team for each project have been reasonable. Some level of self learning and further creativity are guaranteed. Mentor help is still great and feedback is quick and more precise here.
@@jansleyreal great information but I wish I could start designing in Figma and learning the hands on design now. I am in course 2 now so I have begun the portfolio prompt that is exciting.
I graduated recently & really didn’t feel I got much out of it. I wish I had just followed the instructions on UX websites that Avocademy was gonna have me read anyway, paid for an advanced Figma class & just did personal projects & free work until I got a few under my belt. And I’m saying that as someone who found most of the assignments incredibly easy & I passed all except 4 of them on the first submission. I also felt like the whole “we encourage you to defend your design decisions” thing was to lull you into a false sense of security because I definitely seemed to be treated coldly when I did that & one of the people I did their Usability testing interview with said basically the same thing, she had to tell them to stop giving her “this is what I think looks good personally” feedback mixed in with the “this is needed change/industry standard”. Also the language to apply to Career Jumpstart is insinuating that if they didn’t like the way you defended design decisions or if you voiced any complaint within the program they got salty about they could literally just refuse you for CJ on that basis. I’m not sure if I’ll write a review but I definitively won’t recommend this program. I’m getting pretty positive feedback from mentors on ADP, even on elements I was told to change by mentors in Avocademy so I’m not even going to apply to CJ.
Fellow PT here too!!! I've been watching your videos all morning and finally got to this video and I nearly fell back off my seat when you said you're a PT. Maybe this is a sign I need to get started.
I'm so glad I found your videos, you are very thorough and informative with what you do. I was so worried until I saw this recent video you uploaded because I'm also about 2 weeks late into the avocademy course due to me and my son having the flu. I'm catching up as we speak and hope to finish on a decent time. I wish you the best of luck on your job search and journey as a UX Designer, rooting for you and excited to see more videos. and I subscribed!
I just started the bootcamp this week and they've changed it to go up to 16 weeks to finish but you can still finish in 8. I think 16 weeks is way more feasible since I have a full-time job and am doing this after work/on the weekends.
Thank you so much for making this channel and getting these weekly videos out, Josh! They’ve been super informative and helpful 🎉 I binged your channel a few weeks ago and think I am ready to make the plunge this month- I’ll make sure to use your link! 😎
@@TaraRCarr you’re welcome Tara! I’m glad they’ve been helpful for you, and that’s awesome you’re making the plunge! Its been a really neat journey so far. There is an affiliate link you can use in the description of this video, I appreciate you helping me out and using it 😃
This is the first time I come across a TY video that was uploaded in the same month. I am considering UX and like you I am from a different background (Social Work). I am really excited to see this. Have you had any job interviews?
Thank you for you thorough review. Do you (or anyone else reading this) know of more affordable options than Avoacademy that offer similar knowledge gained? (I know mentorship experiences probably wont be included)
I highly recommend the book Get Into UX: A Foolproof Guide to Getting Your First User Experience Job by Vy Alechnavicius. It made me rethink how will I approach transiting into UX Design.
@@jansleyreal the ultimate goal is to work remotely, so for cyber security, I have more of a grasp on it, UX didn’t really catch me yet if that makes sense
@@jansleyreal very rushed, that’s what they don’t tell u. u gotta overlap and finish 2 real world projects, submit and approval of your portfolio, and apply to 160 job applications in about plus or minus 2 months. or… no refund or job guarantees smh
Just watch your CJ video and wasn't sure about how Avoacademy works. So they have two boot camp right? This one and the Career Jumpstart which you'll pay roughly around 7k total?
Yeah it can be a bit confusing haha. Yes, they have 2 programs 1) Foundations: the initial program to learn end-to-end UX process, working on 1 cumulative project that will end up in your portfolio 2) Career Jumpstart: the 2nd program where you work on 2 REAL client projects that you can add to your portfolio, as well as job search support Both of them together are around $7,000-$7,500 USD
Great Video!! I am about to sign up for the avocademy bootcamp but I'm a little nervous. I don't know if I should invest in it or try to continue to teach myself. I would love to hear your advice.
Your nervousness is totally relatable. At the end of the day you have to ask yourself "do I realistically have the willpower to teach myself, and do I know WHAT I need to teach myself?" Sometimes it takes a little skin in the game (ie money) to fuel that drive to learn at a quick pace. I know for me, sure I could do it on my own, but I didn't know what kinds of information I needed to learn, and I certainly would not have pushed myself as quickly as the program does. Hope this helps!
This helps me a lot. Because I can relate. However, I'm nervous because I'm afraid I'm not creative enough and don't think outside the box enough for a UX/UI career
You have access to the content forever which is cool, but not to mentors I don't think. I have seen a couple updates since starting the program, so they seem to update it as needed. The foundational UX principles don't change much, but things like resume and portfolio layouts will change occasionally
Possibly, but because I was new to the field, I would not have even known what topics to search for that I needed to learn. If that makes sense... Avocademy has everything you need to know organized in one place
on the website of avocademy i watched the introduction video and towards the end of it i noticed that Maca said that you didnt have to pay the Career jumpstart until AFTER you finished it and that the program GUARANTEED you a job, as in they will help you land a job and if you dont end up obtaing a job that you do NOT have to pay the 5,500 dollars. Is this true?
Hey Janet! It is TRUE that you do not have to pay the 5500 until completion of the program. It is also TRUE that the program guarantees a job within 6 months of the job search process or your money back.. BUT, there are stipulations you must meet including sending out 160 applications per month.
Im part of the Avocademy course as well and I am way more behind than you were due to the fact that I have a full time job and it is hard to balance the course. One of the problem I had is that different mentors give different feedback to Activities and it gets confusing at times. I love how the mentors are thoughtful and caring about the success of their students. I am still dedicated to learning a new skill to one day get a different job than my current role as of now. I wish you the best of luck trying to get a job in the field
Yep, I noticed sometimes I would get varied feedback as well. It's probably difficult to make that consistent though. Good luck to you, keep working at it, no matter how behind you are! Its not a race :)
@@jansleyreal The good thing is that the mentors are using Loom videos as part of their feedback to students which is a really big plus because they are taking the time to show you what needs to be fixed instead of using comments on Figma.
I experienced this is as well, I was pretty behind myself. I didn't finish until a couple days ago on the 23rd. Your second sentence hits the nail on the head, all through the research process I had mentors providing different insight which made feel as though I was doing something wrong.
Career Jumpstart has been good to me so far! Lots of work but it seems do-able so far with the skills you’re taught in foundation. I also frequently ask previous mentors from foundations for help and resources. They are quick to provide responses and often offer to setup video chats for further help or even just to vent!
I decided to do it. It's a tremendous amount of work, like unlike anything I've experienced while juggling a FT job. How far along are you?
@@jansleyreal I don’t comment often! Wasn’t aware I’d received a response 😬 I’m currently working through my second project in career jumpstart. It’s been manageable so far but I’m a stay at home dad with a 2 year old and a 2 WEEK old. Different workload than a FT job. Individual Responsibilities within the team for each project have been reasonable. Some level of self learning and further creativity are guaranteed. Mentor help is still great and feedback is quick and more precise here.
I have just started the Google UX professional certification and I’m hoping to complete before Easter.
How do you like it so far?
@@jansleyreal great information but I wish I could start designing in Figma and learning the hands on design now. I am in course 2 now so I have begun the portfolio prompt that is exciting.
How you doing, Yasmin?
I graduated recently & really didn’t feel I got much out of it. I wish I had just followed the instructions on UX websites that Avocademy was gonna have me read anyway, paid for an advanced Figma class & just did personal projects & free work until I got a few under my belt.
And I’m saying that as someone who found most of the assignments incredibly easy & I passed all except 4 of them on the first submission. I also felt like the whole “we encourage you to defend your design decisions” thing was to lull you into a false sense of security because I definitely seemed to be treated coldly when I did that & one of the people I did their Usability testing interview with said basically the same thing, she had to tell them to stop giving her “this is what I think looks good personally” feedback mixed in with the “this is needed change/industry standard”. Also the language to apply to Career Jumpstart is insinuating that if they didn’t like the way you defended design decisions or if you voiced any complaint within the program they got salty about they could literally just refuse you for CJ on that basis. I’m not sure if I’ll write a review but I definitively won’t recommend this program. I’m getting pretty positive feedback from mentors on ADP, even on elements I was told to change by mentors in Avocademy so I’m not even going to apply to CJ.
I appreciate you sharing your point of view! Always good to get a different perspective on it. Sorry it didn't work out so well for you :/
Fellow PT here too!!! I've been watching your videos all morning and finally got to this video and I nearly fell back off my seat when you said you're a PT. Maybe this is a sign I need to get started.
The universe has spoken, answer the call 😉
I like the way you explain things man, usually when I watch videos like these I zone out but you kept me here for the whole video haha
That means a lot, I appreciate that Santiago!
Thank you so much for such a thorough review! I been debating on joining avocademy for a few months now. I think I'm gunna finally take the leap!
Let's gooo John! Take that leap my man 🙌
I'm so glad I found your videos, you are very thorough and informative with what you do. I was so worried until I saw this recent video you uploaded because I'm also about 2 weeks late into the avocademy course due to me and my son having the flu. I'm catching up as we speak and hope to finish on a decent time. I wish you the best of luck on your job search and journey as a UX Designer, rooting for you and excited to see more videos. and I subscribed!
Glad you found it helpful! I also wish you luck on your UX journey, have fun with it!
Your videos have been very helpful. Thank you!
No problem, glad you’ve found them helpful!
I just started the bootcamp this week and they've changed it to go up to 16 weeks to finish but you can still finish in 8. I think 16 weeks is way more feasible since I have a full-time job and am doing this after work/on the weekends.
If they changed it to 16 weeks, that's far more doable. Hope you have fun with it!
Thank you so much for making this channel and getting these weekly videos out, Josh! They’ve been super informative and helpful 🎉 I binged your channel a few weeks ago and think I am ready to make the plunge this month- I’ll make sure to use your link! 😎
Wait a second, I thought you had an affiliate link on one of your videos, was I mistaken? 🤦🏻♀️
@@TaraRCarr you’re welcome Tara! I’m glad they’ve been helpful for you, and that’s awesome you’re making the plunge! Its been a really neat journey so far. There is an affiliate link you can use in the description of this video, I appreciate you helping me out and using it 😃
This is the first time I come across a TY video that was uploaded in the same month. I am considering UX and like you I am from a different background (Social Work). I am really excited to see this. Have you had any job interviews?
Oh a fellow healthcare worker! I have not had any job interview, I'm not at that stage yet. Soon to come! Good luck if you decide to pursue it!
Oooooh that music app must have been the one that you were talking about. Well, that's cool!
Yep Greg that's the one! My first project, and I'm definitely proud of how it turned out given my inexperience haha😀
Thank you for you thorough review. Do you (or anyone else reading this) know of more affordable options than Avoacademy that offer similar knowledge gained? (I know mentorship experiences probably wont be included)
Google has a UX Design bootcamp that is either free or very affordable. Can't vouch for it though, I've never done it
I was looking into this or UX/ UI calarts on coursera
I don't have experience with the calarts program, but I know quite a few people that have done the Google UX on coursera and seemed to like it.
I’m still on the fence as far as learning, UX design, or cyber security
Do you have a gut feeling as to which one you would enjoy more?
I highly recommend the book Get Into UX: A Foolproof Guide to Getting Your First User Experience Job by Vy Alechnavicius. It made me rethink how will I approach transiting into UX Design.
@@jansleyreal the ultimate goal is to work remotely, so for cyber security, I have more of a grasp on it, UX didn’t really catch me yet if that makes sense
@@mindyourbizmethod I will definitely look into getting that book
@@mindyourbizmethod I read that book, absolutely loved it!
currently in cj, i’ll let u know if it’s worth it🤞🏽
Cool, what do you think so far?
@@jansleyreal very rushed, that’s what they don’t tell u. u gotta overlap and finish 2 real world projects, submit and approval of your portfolio, and apply to 160 job applications in about plus or minus 2 months. or… no refund or job guarantees smh
@@masta_ohow did it go?
Just watch your CJ video and wasn't sure about how Avoacademy works. So they have two boot camp right? This one and the Career Jumpstart which you'll pay roughly around 7k total?
Yeah it can be a bit confusing haha. Yes, they have 2 programs
1) Foundations: the initial program to learn end-to-end UX process, working on 1 cumulative project that will end up in your portfolio
2) Career Jumpstart: the 2nd program where you work on 2 REAL client projects that you can add to your portfolio, as well as job search support
Both of them together are around $7,000-$7,500 USD
Great Video!! I am about to sign up for the avocademy bootcamp but I'm a little nervous. I don't know if I should invest in it or try to continue to teach myself. I would love to hear your advice.
Your nervousness is totally relatable. At the end of the day you have to ask yourself "do I realistically have the willpower to teach myself, and do I know WHAT I need to teach myself?" Sometimes it takes a little skin in the game (ie money) to fuel that drive to learn at a quick pace. I know for me, sure I could do it on my own, but I didn't know what kinds of information I needed to learn, and I certainly would not have pushed myself as quickly as the program does. Hope this helps!
This helps me a lot. Because I can relate. However, I'm nervous because I'm afraid I'm not creative enough and don't think outside the box enough for a UX/UI career
How long do you have access to the course once you graduate ? Also do they update any new info in it to provide new info for the industry ?
You have access to the content forever which is cool, but not to mentors I don't think. I have seen a couple updates since starting the program, so they seem to update it as needed. The foundational UX principles don't change much, but things like resume and portfolio layouts will change occasionally
Ii want to sign up
I finished the Foundations Course and also am on the fence about CJ bc of the cost....
Yeah it's definitely pricy 😲
Did u ever sign up?
Because your vid was very informative I decided to subscribe 👍
Appreciate that, glad it helped out!
Do you feel like you could have just watched youtube training videos/researched UX design instead of doing the bootcamp?
Possibly, but because I was new to the field, I would not have even known what topics to search for that I needed to learn. If that makes sense... Avocademy has everything you need to know organized in one place
How much did it cost? I’m currently pregnant and took a semester off to reevaluate my major and have been wanting to get into tech in some way
Avocademy foundations is $1,997 USD
You can do a payment plan as well!
very helpful content keep it up !
Appreciate that, thank you!
on the website of avocademy i watched the introduction video and towards the end of it i noticed that Maca said that you didnt have to pay the Career jumpstart until AFTER you finished it and that the program GUARANTEED you a job, as in they will help you land a job and if you dont end up obtaing a job that you do NOT have to pay the 5,500 dollars. Is this true?
Hey Janet! It is TRUE that you do not have to pay the 5500 until completion of the program. It is also TRUE that the program guarantees a job within 6 months of the job search process or your money back.. BUT, there are stipulations you must meet including sending out 160 applications per month.
Do you have to be really technical?
You have to be technical in the sense of using UI software effectively, but there's no coding you have to learn.
How much was the tuition?
$2,000 USD
So what are you planning on doing after? Try to find some freelance gigs for practice?
Initially yes, but I ended up joining Avocademy Career Jumpstart
It's a scam.
Not necessarily
@@jansleyrealnot necessarily??
So potentially it’s a scam?
Can you explain?