My grandfather served aboard hms vanguard got a chance to have his picture taken with king george and both princesses so sad the ship was scrapped id go pretty far to have been able to walk her corridors
Same. I would 1uite literally travel half way across the globe to see her, and walk on her decks and in her corridors, but alas, it was not to be. Even though she resisted scrapping for a time by beaching herself.
Tier 9 is the new hell, with super ships, for me. It’s like a few years back everyone complained about t8 match making and how possibly could it get worse. And then WOWs said hold my beer.
No it's 6. You get double CV games and shit tons of submarines each game, you have no AA, and you are always getting up tiered to T8 because with super ships, a lot of 9s and 10s get dragged up to those games, leaving T8 to be like... Soooooooo, Tier 6s and 7s, huh... Hi...... Tier 6 is hell, for those who enjoy it, and the few of us who reset a line and are grinding.
I agree, tier 9 can feel like a real grind with the match making these days. But as the other comment says WG has made it so many tiers have their own types of hell these days.
@@Swarm509i don't understand why WG is ruining its own game. Like i dont have a problem with spending money on the game, but i've missed so many days playing just because the MM made me so frustrated and disgusted i literally havent loged in for a week. I don't get it. WG shooting themselves in the foot fr
Changing to +1/-1 matchmaker would be an utter revolution for the game. Certainly on EU, waiting times are pretty short, the queue times would be fine. WG could buy so much player good will with that one little change. This has been more an example of why T8 MM is just suffering. I probably should go back and give Vanguard some play time.
I think part of the reason so many brawlers hide in the back is because the (ol German) mantra being repeated to new brawler players is "save your HP until the end of the match", and "don't push in at the start". It's much easier to say "don't YOLO" than to describe what is a good time to move forward, so a lot of people have this idea they have to hide until "their moment" and then just W key from top to bottom.
When this ship was new and the tech trees aren't as big as they are now, I played the Vanguard a lot. However, match making being what it is these days, I have moved my commander off it to the St. Vincent line.
Vanguard is all about leveraging the HP, heal, and rudder to make up your deficiencies. I like it, but I'm a weirdo. I also still run AA build because I remember when it would delete strike groups... maybe I just wish it still did something.
Double-rudder, HE reliant battle cruiser. W the heal, you WANT to be the target, and dodge at any range except brawling. And a bit on the unknown side, which you can exploit. I LOVE playing this ship!
I always did like this ship. She may have her quirks but not a bad ship overall. Shame the UK didn't keep her as a floating museum instead of scraping her. I'd like to have seen her in person.
Love to see a bit of love for the Vanguard. Entirely not interesting and a bit awkward purely because it was an actual ship. Not dreamed up in a cheese coma by some crazy devs.
I honestly like vanguard. The downsides are indeed the rear turret angles and a exposed citadel. But thanks to her cruiser level rudder you can often position yourself on time to hide your broadside, and her guns are quite consistent. Best tier 8 bb? Not at all. But definitely underrated and better than monarch if you ask me
owned Vanguard since her release back in 2018. As a cruiser main, the rudder is just nice (i'm rudder mod mainer). Despite only having like 41% winrate, Vanguard is the first BB which I got Solo Warrior. Winrate so low that i have no pressure playing this ship so it become much more fun
@@stefanocrosazzo3262 She's more a rough mix of both ships but not as good at ether ships job as the primary ship. As a torp boat Kagero is better with harder hitting torps that travel faster, and having a much easier time dropping the smoke for the high risk high reward of the torp reload booster without really giving anything up as Kagero isn't going to be using it's guns very often anyway. As a gunboat it's 3/4ths of an Akizuki that every roughly 160 seconds isn't even as good of a torp boat as Akizuki unless you give up your smoke making you a significantly worse gunboat as IJN ships do not open water well. Plus Aki has quite the range and HP advantage. Really HSF Harekaze is a jack of all trades, not really great at anything, but can fill what ever role the team needs within reason. That's not a bad thing, but to say she doesn't have drawbacks over Kagero or Akizuki is just flat wrong.
SAP secondaries that get out to 10.5 rushing in with exhaust smoke, and 406s for main guns with tank armor. It's not a bad ship, but dispersion can be dumb tho, like most Italian guns
It literally has the same turrets and guns as warspite. I do run ruddermod on it, it is lovely to have light cruiser maneuverability on a bb, and the speed and reload are not to bad either.
Vanguard had a lost gimmick of having 3 ASW plane charges back when they added that mechanic, so you had an incentive to play it in that role, it was pretty good at hunting subs
Nice video PQ! Any chance that this crossair is in Aslains modpack? If so, which one would it be, I have the Smart Horizon Dynamic but I cant find the one with the crosslines to help aiming against different angles.
Play Bayard next. That ship is quite strong in ranked and I feel it is kinda underrated. The conceal + speed + dpm +mbrb + fire chance is a deadly combination to fight against💪
Looking at my past Van experiences - the latter two were lucky. Because you were not focused at all - as soon as Van gets any attention by some more ships on decent range and it blows up, especcially HE spam.
I have 6 games in this ship, only 40% WR. Not for me sadly. The biggest problem is it's firepower: only 8 15-inch guns at T8. Now compare that ro and Amagi or a NC, both 16 inch guns
Vanguard I find frustrating, I really like the rudder shift combined with a citadel which compensates for the turret angles and gives you a skill based way of avoiding damage and optimising your firing/ minimising risk of being hit hard. The guns I find frustrating, poor damage, poor accuracy, poor pen. I remember being in a game had a Kremlin point blank flat broadside to me fired all the guns right at where the citadel should be.... nothing.... it's a ship I like but wish it was a bit better.
Idk why I have so much trouble playing sinop I stay bow in but I still eat cits that I wouldn't even eat broadside slightly angled and then the guns just don't work at any range I mean the izmail was great for me in terms of tanking and also dmg but idk why my sinop does that
Perhaps an unpopular one but interesting to me nonetheless, Monarch! (I come from console, not sure if Monarch is 1 to 1 with PC as it's a GXP ship over here)
Vanguard is a BB... but really played like the largest cruiser in the world lol. i think it has something different about one of the shell types - its not standard british BB shell but cant recall if AP or HE shells is different.
agree about the turret angles. i cant believe the real ship was so bad with the gun angles but maybe Vanguard was. it was supposed to have 16 inch guns but the navy or govt decided to stop work on the 16 inch guns and put in the guns from a CV that was converted from a battlecruiser.
I can see the Warspite comparison. Seems less about the guns and more about how you move the ship. Good rudder+turning circle along with poor angles = lots of turn-shoot-turn
You SHALL play Warspite next!
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Yes
LETS DO THIS WARSPITE WARSPITE
YEA LETS DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!
@@sigtyr8887 He SHALL not play Warspite next!
My grandfather served aboard hms vanguard got a chance to have his picture taken with king george and both princesses so sad the ship was scrapped id go pretty far to have been able to walk her corridors
Same. I would 1uite literally travel half way across the globe to see her, and walk on her decks and in her corridors, but alas, it was not to be. Even though she resisted scrapping for a time by beaching herself.
U must be so proud man. Congrats
Ah Vanguard, one of the last real steel BB's ever built and commissioned... she largely servered as a royal yacht though.
THE last. and cash strapped Britain didnt save her when decommissioned. we invented the class and didnt save even the last one for history.
😂😂
@@davidhines7592 Are there any museum dreadnaught battleships outside the US?
@@Sputnikcosmonot No dreadnoughts to my knowledge, but there is a pre-dreadnought in Japan, the Mikasa
Elbing with an AP build!!! 😁
Good idea
Is there any other build for Elbing?
Leg mod or without?
@@stalinexpress leg mod for sure dude
or Schultz, the T9.
Tier 9 is the new hell, with super ships, for me. It’s like a few years back everyone complained about t8 match making and how possibly could it get worse. And then WOWs said hold my beer.
No it's 6. You get double CV games and shit tons of submarines each game, you have no AA, and you are always getting up tiered to T8 because with super ships, a lot of 9s and 10s get dragged up to those games, leaving T8 to be like... Soooooooo, Tier 6s and 7s, huh... Hi......
Tier 6 is hell, for those who enjoy it, and the few of us who reset a line and are grinding.
I agree, tier 9 can feel like a real grind with the match making these days.
But as the other comment says WG has made it so many tiers have their own types of hell these days.
@@Swarm509i don't understand why WG is ruining its own game. Like i dont have a problem with spending money on the game, but i've missed so many days playing just because the MM made me so frustrated and disgusted i literally havent loged in for a week. I don't get it. WG shooting themselves in the foot fr
König Albert the OP German BB no one talks about 😂
Um no not really it really is good for it's tier and also the bayern
She is good, but these days how many people play tier 3?
@@lightbluewaves5526 there are plenty of people that would play lower tiers if only WG decided to lift the tier5+ mission restriction...
Absolutely gorgeous ship in my opinion
Aesthetically I mean, though also fun gameplay
Hi PQ, I'd love to see you try out the Florida. If you don't want to play that, a second request would be the Michaelangelo.
Exeter or London, ship that very rarely get featured on youtube.
For good reason. They are terrible ships, especially London.
Hey I like my London as long as u in the smoke u safe lmao
@@ryanbrochu3336 Exeter is probably the best T5 ship in the game by a long way, London when played properly is a god as well.
prinz eitel friedrich
Borodino next? Kinda like Slava at tier 8 without the range
Changing to +1/-1 matchmaker would be an utter revolution for the game. Certainly on EU, waiting times are pretty short, the queue times would be fine. WG could buy so much player good will with that one little change.
This has been more an example of why T8 MM is just suffering.
I probably should go back and give Vanguard some play time.
I think part of the reason so many brawlers hide in the back is because the (ol German) mantra being repeated to new brawler players is "save your HP until the end of the match", and "don't push in at the start". It's much easier to say "don't YOLO" than to describe what is a good time to move forward, so a lot of people have this idea they have to hide until "their moment" and then just W key from top to bottom.
When this ship was new and the tech trees aren't as big as they are now, I played the Vanguard a lot. However, match making being what it is these days, I have moved my commander off it to the St. Vincent line.
Vanguard is all about leveraging the HP, heal, and rudder to make up your deficiencies. I like it, but I'm a weirdo. I also still run AA build because I remember when it would delete strike groups... maybe I just wish it still did something.
lets go for another British BB : Marlborough next please !
next ships: Acapulo, King Rudolf, Exeter and Hugo Boss 😂
hi, what about continuing with british battleships.
next time the duke of york with its hydro and improved ap pen angles
Yes! Full AP Duke Of York
@@HenryProperCall911 Best DoY
Double-rudder, HE reliant battle cruiser. W the heal, you WANT to be the target, and dodge at any range except brawling. And a bit on the unknown side, which you can exploit.
I LOVE playing this ship!
I think a bit of Kléber Leg mod would be hilarious
The MM is killing this game so hard.
If you think that's bad, wait until they add the "special ammo" to the random MM.
Seems to be approaching the point where they could open up every match to be randomly seeded with Tiers 1 through 11 and it wouldn't be much worse.
@not2tired all for the glorious queue times, who cares if it's fun
@@peepsy1528 Exactly
@@not2tired I remember there was a similar rumor years ago on the old WoT forums. Miss the days of the WoT forums.
I dunno when I saw last time Gascogne in randoms... especially with secondary build
This was entertaining to watch for the torp dodges alone lol.
I love this ship. I feel like so many people have told me ots subpar but i love the way it feels and its always one of my better performing ships
I love that ship! Its so maneuverable.
I always did like this ship. She may have her quirks but not a bad ship overall. Shame the UK didn't keep her as a floating museum instead of scraping her. I'd like to have seen her in person.
Got my one and only Lone Warrior to this date with this ship 😂❤ love her ❤
PQ must play Marlborough next
Love to see a bit of love for the Vanguard. Entirely not interesting and a bit awkward purely because it was an actual ship. Not dreamed up in a cheese coma by some crazy devs.
I honestly like vanguard. The downsides are indeed the rear turret angles and a exposed citadel. But thanks to her cruiser level rudder you can often position yourself on time to hide your broadside, and her guns are quite consistent. Best tier 8 bb? Not at all. But definitely underrated and better than monarch if you ask me
Can’t believe you missed this great BB previously. LOVED it a while back.
owned Vanguard since her release back in 2018. As a cruiser main, the rudder is just nice (i'm rudder mod mainer). Despite only having like 41% winrate, Vanguard is the first BB which I got Solo Warrior. Winrate so low that i have no pressure playing this ship so it become much more fun
WG NEEDS to change match making should not be + 2 -1 ! should always be +1 -1 to make if fair to lower tier ships.
steering gears mod rather then prop mod gives you sill manoeuvrability for a bb and basically makes it a made dodger and negates the turret angles
I'd suggest looking at HSF Harekaze. Sure, not obtainable, but probably most player friendly premium ship with three hulls to choose from!
Harekaze, also called "kagero + akizuki without drawbacks"
@@stefanocrosazzo3262 You're down a turret compared to Akizuki, how is that not a drawback?
@@stefanocrosazzo3262 She's more a rough mix of both ships but not as good at ether ships job as the primary ship.
As a torp boat Kagero is better with harder hitting torps that travel faster, and having a much easier time dropping the smoke for the high risk high reward of the torp reload booster without really giving anything up as Kagero isn't going to be using it's guns very often anyway.
As a gunboat it's 3/4ths of an Akizuki that every roughly 160 seconds isn't even as good of a torp boat as Akizuki unless you give up your smoke making you a significantly worse gunboat as IJN ships do not open water well. Plus Aki has quite the range and HP advantage.
Really HSF Harekaze is a jack of all trades, not really great at anything, but can fill what ever role the team needs within reason. That's not a bad thing, but to say she doesn't have drawbacks over Kagero or Akizuki is just flat wrong.
3 hulls, but if you don't take the Akizuki guns you're actively gimping yourself. Wish they'd buff the American guns and make them worth using.
Agreed Warspite please. If possible, discuss each ship's potential in both Random and Ranked.
Have you ever played the Giuseppe Verdi, she's beautiful but idk how she played and i havent seen anything good people said about her
I used to play it a while ago, basically secondary build charging in a smoke😁
SAP secondaries that get out to 10.5 rushing in with exhaust smoke, and 406s for main guns with tank armor. It's not a bad ship, but dispersion can be dumb tho, like most Italian guns
Play the Chikuma II! You haven't ever played it before at least on channel, and it's a rare ship that few people have. (attempt # thirty-something)
Really enjoy your videos PQ. Would enjoy some Hawke games. And don't forget about the AP!
I would love to see California next! It is a Tennessee but with worse accuracy
Please play Iwami Secondary Build!
Somers Ship Request. Triple Torp Gearing needs recognition!!!
I would love to see you play the Minnesota
How about some Irian? Not a common sight to see at tier 8.
It literally has the same turrets and guns as warspite. I do run ruddermod on it, it is lovely to have light cruiser maneuverability on a bb, and the speed and reload are not to bad either.
18:05 GET DOWN MR PRESIDENT
It plays like a French kite BB in practice
Vanguard had a lost gimmick of having 3 ASW plane charges back when they added that mechanic, so you had an incentive to play it in that role, it was pretty good at hunting subs
I'd love to see you play Fuso or something equivalent.
Ayy love Vanguard
Nice video PQ! Any chance that this crossair is in Aslains modpack? If so, which one would it be, I have the Smart Horizon Dynamic but I cant find the one with the crosslines to help aiming against different angles.
Mutsu Full Secondary Build
Attempt 8 of requesting Bayern, the last dreadnought of the Kaiserliche Marine.
try Siliwangi. She is so rare to seen in almost every match. Maybe you can give it a shot
Terrible ship, that's why.
Molotov! 3rd try now. It's really fun!
With these blowout games i usually just log out and come back after work. Vanguard is a fun boat to play though.
Would love to see the Gearing! Been years since you played her on your channel!
Somers would be better and more rare
Man i like your game play and commentary. Just real and informed
I wanna see Mino Legmod pls
Jinnan with a full gun boat build
Fun to build for AP damage but end up shooting HE mainly. Still shows how bad tier 8 is currently.
Well most British BBs work wonders with HE but the AP on them just doesn't want to work
I found QE AP work just fine to the point I basically play it as standard BB instead of flamethrower.
PQ reaching new levels of torpedo dodging😂😂😂
Play Bayard next. That ship is quite strong in ranked and I feel it is kinda underrated. The conceal + speed + dpm +mbrb + fire chance is a deadly combination to fight against💪
Looking at my past Van experiences - the latter two were lucky. Because you were not focused at all - as soon as Van gets any attention by some more ships on decent range and it blows up, especcially HE spam.
Where's that post replay on the "citadel" you received on that last game from the Kearsarge? Haha
I have 6 games in this ship, only 40% WR. Not for me sadly. The biggest problem is it's firepower: only 8 15-inch guns at T8. Now compare that ro and Amagi or a NC, both 16 inch guns
I would like to see you play ANHALT
Vanguard I find frustrating, I really like the rudder shift combined with a citadel which compensates for the turret angles and gives you a skill based way of avoiding damage and optimising your firing/ minimising risk of being hit hard. The guns I find frustrating, poor damage, poor accuracy, poor pen. I remember being in a game had a Kremlin point blank flat broadside to me fired all the guns right at where the citadel should be.... nothing.... it's a ship I like but wish it was a bit better.
I love Vanguard, it might not be OP but it just makes me happy to play!
You might not like these turret angles, but on the positive side, the worse the angles, the faster they get to the other side when you turn 😁
Ushakov please, let's see how the battleship with the restriction in the up coming clan battles season fares in randoms.
Good call on release timeframe. WoWS wiki says November 2018.
Maine secondary build please! It has a Ton of 5inch
I would love to see Austin Powers!
Play Sinop bowtank! 3 triple turreted 16 in guns goes hard against 4 twin guns from other countries bowtanking!
Idk why I have so much trouble playing sinop I stay bow in but I still eat cits that I wouldn't even eat broadside slightly angled and then the guns just don't work at any range I mean the izmail was great for me in terms of tanking and also dmg but idk why my sinop does that
I'd love to see you revisit Cleveland
Attempt no. 8 at asking for lighthouse Salem/DM
How about Mahan?? It have Fletcher DPM in T7!!
Wild how they get you to play this right before the modified South American one gets announced
Perhaps an unpopular one but interesting to me nonetheless, Monarch! (I come from console, not sure if Monarch is 1 to 1 with PC as it's a GXP ship over here)
Vanguard is a BB... but really played like the largest cruiser in the world lol. i think it has something different about one of the shell types - its not standard british BB shell but cant recall if AP or HE shells is different.
agree about the turret angles. i cant believe the real ship was so bad with the gun angles but maybe Vanguard was. it was supposed to have 16 inch guns but the navy or govt decided to stop work on the 16 inch guns and put in the guns from a CV that was converted from a battlecruiser.
Can you do a video on 'the best ships for tier 8 ranked' , best one of each ship type and a bit on why you chose them, thanks
THUNDERER NEXT PLEASE!!!
Next time Zorkiy please :)
I would love to see you do the warspite
I-56 next. Interesting to see after the glacier of nerfs.
Maybe Jinan next?
Like to see the challenge of playing an Icarus.
What about Repulse next?
the John_The_Ruthless build Colbert
The HSF Harekaze with American guns JP DD meets US Guns
tier 5 russian cruiser the krispy kream
Its time for Druid :>>>
Play nevsky I want a video about it
I can see the Warspite comparison. Seems less about the guns and more about how you move the ship. Good rudder+turning circle along with poor angles = lots of turn-shoot-turn
what about the marlborough??
schlieffen please
Mr.POTATO QUALITY , can i request you try ST.Vincent Full Secondary , maybe you can show us , thank you so much bros
Shinonome
Can we see moskva?
It's a challenge. Show me to use 4 km torpedoes USSR Cruisers! 😁Thanks