Look who we have here! Bill Nye the science guy! Except he's got no education. If you don't know something then open up a book instead of your butt cheeks.
@@lanouekright?!?!? It's sooooo fucked that they'd rather be like well I don't have to tell my partner cause it's not illegal.. but you have no problem being a piece of shit and lying by omission. Your feelings are not more important than someones ability to make an informed choice to hook up with you. Fucking disgusting behavior. And then to compare it to diabetes or high blood pressure is some serious gaslighting.. sickening
But people do not stay undetectable forever... just because a person was undetectable as of their last blood draw, doesn't mean they are undetectable today. Even the studies that are used to demonstrate that U = U they note that they had some cases of transmission.... "for whom treatment no longer was working and the virus was replicating." Just assuming that a person is undetectable because they were at the last lab draw is not evidence-based. www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/treatment-prevention
@QueerCollective Except for the part where they act entitled and basically annoyed that a partner would want to know if they had HIV. Stop defending bs it just makes the queer community look horrible.
@queercollective y'all are fucking clowns. Myles literally says at the beginning of the podcast "why should I sleep with someone who doesn't respect me?" Not saying you have HIV is mad disrespectful.. y'all are fucking gross
I feel so deeply sorry for him. I can’t imagine being ill and not knowing why then finding out you are HIV +. But hear me when I say this: it is absolutely CRUCIAL to disclose this information to people you could possibly be intimate with…
And on top of that Myles is undetectable which means you cannot transmit the virus. According to Canadian law you legally do not need to disclose and yet they still did and we still recommend in the video that everyone does disclose. Not sure what the issue is.
@QueerCollective idiot if they both had a cut in there mouth then you could. Also why are you not respecting people choice to want to know if someone has HIV before you begin being physical with them? Yall are literally so pathetic to try and defend this sh#$.
@@QueerCollectiveYOU DO NOT KNOW THAT HE IS UNDETECTABLE. He could be lying or even if it is true, you absolutely must disclose this to a partner. The fuck is wrong with you.
A lot. This promiscuous narcissist had to work to get HIV, and then sits there in broad daylight telling people he doesn't disclose his status. This, in fact, is illegal. And these two women sit there, allowing him to describe the fact that every one of his hookups is a felony and r*pe by deception.
@@harambeboy watch the video. We provide comprehensive sexual education in it. You can not catch it from someone who is undetectable but you can absolutely catch it in one time from someone who is HIV+ and detectable. The end of the episode provides ways to protect yourself
Very informative conversation. I don't love the delivery of certain things, but at least it's a starting point. Also I respect the discord in the community about this, because often I find that we argue with each other for the wrong reasons. This just comes back to being transparent and responsible. Another unpopular option is that the uptick in female exposure is because women sleep with men who don't disclose their orientation. Queer black nurse from American, so please don't come for me, but prevention, no matter what the illness, should always be key
I wish we would talk more about hiv/aids in queer spaces, it's like evryone is forgetting about the crisis and it wasn't even that long ago, loads of younger queers don't even know the most basic stuff about hiv and how to keep themselves safe
Yes ^^ open honest conversation is so useful. Many queer groups, like the SF gay mens choir lost all of their original members. The least we can do us stay educated
This is a super touchy subject & please be mindful of your comments. The last thing we as a community need is more 🌈 on 🌈 hate. Let’s be clear. Myles (from their own verbiage) was on all necessary meds to be undetectable. So NO they were not putting said person at risk. HOWEVER I whole heartedly disagree with the sentiment of not disclosing your HIV status if undetectable. When you interact with someone in a sexual manner that should be disclosed. What their status is, when tested last, if said person knows enough about the HIV status to understand what undetectable means. I understand it’s stigmatized. I understand you CANNOT infect them. They SHOULD STILL GET THE CHOICE to decide for themselves if they want to engage in intercourse. If they’re uneducated on how HIV undetectable status works this can cause fear anxiety even panic which could impact their mental health they could lash out towards said person and put themselves & said person in danger if they find out after the fact. They should have the necessary info & know if intercourse happened they would be fine BUT THEY NEED TO BE INFORMED. I fully understand these are life saving medications and common sense says you would obviously be taking them. What happens when someone lies that they are undetectable, they forgot to take medication regularly (again I know it’s rare) or they maybe cannot afford their medications & have skipped taking them and lie , various other mishaps. The point is the other party needs to be informed and give consent. Not disclosing your status just feels like you are omitting information and being shady. I agree the habit of disclosing STIs or HIV should not have a negative stigma. Just the same as if someone tells me hey I’ve gone 8 months without getting tested. I should be given that info so I can make a choice for myself. We should frankly be having said conversations constantly & be getting tested constantly. We need to stop using verbiage like “clean” when discussing STIs or HIV. I appreciate Myles being an advocate and please listen to the full podcast. They had so much wonderful information that needs to be discussed.
Thank you for such a thoughtful comment. I agree you should never lie about your status and everyone has the right to know and have full disclosure. Myles does encourage and practice disclosure, but of course that comes with it’s own set of really tough conversations and judgements based on stigma and misinformation which can put people in real harm’s way. We hope that the sharing of such frustrations does not take away from the larger conversation and education within the episode as it is a bit of double sided sword
Thanks for this episode I have HIV and I’m struggling to find reasons to stay sober I’m glad he can do it. I have a hard time because I’m bi living with it.
48:03 I think this is the clip that is causing so much hate. I understand where they are coming from but at the same time I’m sure they understand why a lot of people would disagree. Because are they referring to regular hiv or undetected HIV in this question? I Watching a bit more of the podcast I do however understand where they are coming from and it’s sad to see how much hate you guys are getting especially because these are the uncomfortable conversations that most people don’t have or don’t think about. So it’s good you guys have a podcast like this. I hope the hate hasn’t deterred you from continuing doing what you’re doing or having these types of conversations but I think it’s needed.
Regardless of regular or undetectable HIV you tell a partner before. Full stop. If you don't tell someone you have an STD, you're a scumbag piece of shit. There's no justification for playing with someone. Myles literally says in the beginning of the podcast "why would I sleep with someone who doesn't respect me?" He's not respecting his partners by not telling them he has HIV. DISGUSTING BEHAVIOR
it really doesnt matter what kind of hiv it is, saying you don't have a disease when you do because you know the person would likely reject sexual activity with you otherwise would be classified as rape or sexual assault by deception. please search this term up if you are not aware of it. it can take many forms such as lying about STD status, lying about infertility (either naturally or via a vasectomy/ tubes tied), secretly removing condoms during sex, impersonating someone's partner without their knowledge, not disclosing your birth sex if you are trans, etc.
Thank you for your comment and for listening! The hate has been the most intense we've ever received but honestly it's just encouraging us to do a follow-up episode. We've realized that clearly HIV education, stigma, & misinformation is much further behind than we thought. senidng you love.
It's sad you're supporting this disgusting behavior. Not disclosing your hiv status even if positive or not, is disgusting. You're taking away informed consent
I think I’m too woke to not see everyone’s outrage towards this video. I don’t think anyone in this video explicitly said HIV doesn’t spread, or that you shouldn’t disclose. Like idk what to say. They literally go into talking about what the right way to disclose is.
He's admitting he doesn't disclose it. He's taking away informed consent. He even said he told someone after making out. If you don't see a problem, I don't know what to tell you
@@fembot3164 If both individuals have significant open sores or bleeding gums in their mouths, and blood from an HIV-positive person comes into contact with an open wound in the partner's mouth, there could be a risk. However, such instances are extremely rare.
Of course it has. This is the place to come to reaffirm your feelings. I mean this man with a beard wearing a dress comes here to be told he's a woman, and once you believe it, it's reality.
Not really yes he's right that if you are undetectable then you couldn't catch it but you should 100% still tell someone before you become physical with them. If that person isn't willing to understand then you probably don't need to be having intercourse with them.
Why should we get "educated"=confused and perverted, by people who wont even admit that this is an unhinged MAN. Thats a male human being, sick in the head, damaging others and defending it. You guys are lost.
Yeah, you're right. They need to stop pushing the undetectable=untransmissable narrative. Doctors and health experts even maintain that the undetectable=untransmissable status applies if it is 6 months straight or longer. How can we prove that the person has been taking their meds every day to suppress the virus? How can we prove that they have been getting tested regularly to determine that they've successfully maintained undetectable status for 6+ months? How can we prove that they are undetectable at the time of intercourse/sexual activity? Even if there is "zero risk," the fact that it's reliant on a word of trust situation makes it even more reason to disclose it so the other non-infected party(s) aren't making uninformed decisions.
Thats a male human being...thats a man who pretends not to be. Its delusion and hes nasty, unhinged and dangerous for what hes doing. You guys are cooked in the head. Thats why people hate you more and more for all the right reasons.
@ Stop acting as if you care. You already know you can’t get AIDS through kissing. Whatever, live your stupid lives even though “these people” are far better humans than you.
thank you for this episode!!! I thought I was reasonably knowledgeable about HIV, but some of the advancements in the field were totally unknown to me. I learned so much! what a wonderful conversation.
Aw they're such a sweet authentic person and their hair is so beautiful. I relate to being sick and not knowing why!! Such a scary diagnosis. Great convo :) xx
Im so sorry these comments r so broken 😭😭 im 1/3 the way through and loving this. The way HIV/AIDS was treated led the way for future epidemics and pandemics honestly. R.I.P. to all of the people that died before the meds were made and the people who continue to die because they cant access them. Myles seems genuinely nice and if ur undetectable, who cares abt ur personal medical history. HIV/AIDS isnt a death sentence anymore.
🤨 And your mindset on this topic shows how immature and ignorant you are. HIV is absolutely still a serious virus 63k people died from hiv causes last year. That’s 63k people that would still be alive today had they not been infected. Don’t be stupid. Educate yourself before saying nonsensical things
Yea just treat aids and hiv like the common cold, surely that won’t backfire in anyway. If 1000 people disagree with you and somehow you still think you’re right, it’s time to look inwards and understand the words coming out of your mouth. Not disclosing you have an sti while kissing someone is criminal, all it takes is a small unknown cut on the gum and you’ve ruined someone’s life if not killed them. Dude needs to grow up and stop acting like a teenager
Bitch no. This white guy is the most audacious white guy to ever live. The only reason to not disclose is to not get rejected. He has a responsibility to inform his partners otherwise its not truly consent. If the chemistry was Awesome id fuck him but not raw. Informed consent is the only consent that matters.
Qc6057 - you promote r*pe culture and no consent. And you have the audacity to call people homophobic for being disgusted with you and the people in this podcast.
Undetectable = Untransmittable
Look who we have here! Bill Nye the science guy! Except he's got no education. If you don't know something then open up a book instead of your butt cheeks.
@@lanouekright?!?!? It's sooooo fucked that they'd rather be like well I don't have to tell my partner cause it's not illegal.. but you have no problem being a piece of shit and lying by omission. Your feelings are not more important than someones ability to make an informed choice to hook up with you. Fucking disgusting behavior. And then to compare it to diabetes or high blood pressure is some serious gaslighting.. sickening
But people do not stay undetectable forever... just because a person was undetectable as of their last blood draw, doesn't mean they are undetectable today. Even the studies that are used to demonstrate that U = U they note that they had some cases of transmission.... "for whom treatment no longer was working and the virus was replicating." Just assuming that a person is undetectable because they were at the last lab draw is not evidence-based. www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/treatment-prevention
It's called *"consent",* mf. You heard of it??
What a stupid comment….
You have to disclose your status regardless… and I’m not talking legally, but from a human prospective.
Myles does encourage disclosure. Hope you listen to the full episode
they should disclose before making out as well.
@QueerCollective Except for the part where they act entitled and basically annoyed that a partner would want to know if they had HIV. Stop defending bs it just makes the queer community look horrible.
@queercollective y'all are fucking clowns. Myles literally says at the beginning of the podcast "why should I sleep with someone who doesn't respect me?" Not saying you have HIV is mad disrespectful.. y'all are fucking gross
In CA they removed it as a law
I feel so deeply sorry for him. I can’t imagine being ill and not knowing why then finding out you are HIV +. But hear me when I say this: it is absolutely CRUCIAL to disclose this information to people you could possibly be intimate with…
46:05 making out and getting hot and heavy then decides to tell the guy he was hiv positive. This is the part people are upset about.
You can't get HIV from saliva. This is a huge misconception that we debunk in the video.
And on top of that Myles is undetectable which means you cannot transmit the virus. According to Canadian law you legally do not need to disclose and yet they still did and we still recommend in the video that everyone does disclose. Not sure what the issue is.
@QueerCollective idiot if they both had a cut in there mouth then you could. Also why are you not respecting people choice to want to know if someone has HIV before you begin being physical with them? Yall are literally so pathetic to try and defend this sh#$.
@@QueerCollectiveYOU DO NOT KNOW THAT HE IS UNDETECTABLE. He could be lying or even if it is true, you absolutely must disclose this to a partner. The fuck is wrong with you.
@@QueerCollectivehiv ppl should be with hiv ppl.
How much unprotected sex is needed to contract HIV?
A lot, being quite literally a sexual degenerate. Which means they would have to work quite hard to get HIV lol.
Once will work
A lot. This promiscuous narcissist had to work to get HIV, and then sits there in broad daylight telling people he doesn't disclose his status. This, in fact, is illegal. And these two women sit there, allowing him to describe the fact that every one of his hookups is a felony and r*pe by deception.
Once bro
@@harambeboy watch the video. We provide comprehensive sexual education in it. You can not catch it from someone who is undetectable but you can absolutely catch it in one time from someone who is HIV+ and detectable. The end of the episode provides ways to protect yourself
Very informative conversation. I don't love the delivery of certain things, but at least it's a starting point. Also I respect the discord in the community about this, because often I find that we argue with each other for the wrong reasons. This just comes back to being transparent and responsible. Another unpopular option is that the uptick in female exposure is because women sleep with men who don't disclose their orientation. Queer black nurse from American, so please don't come for me, but prevention, no matter what the illness, should always be key
I wish we would talk more about hiv/aids in queer spaces, it's like evryone is forgetting about the crisis and it wasn't even that long ago, loads of younger queers don't even know the most basic stuff about hiv and how to keep themselves safe
Hopefully folks will checkout this video ❤
Yes ^^ open honest conversation is so useful. Many queer groups, like the SF gay mens choir lost all of their original members. The least we can do us stay educated
@@QueerCollectiveThis video did way more harm then it did good.
@@UrMom-v6dYeah open honest convo like telling someone you carry hiv before getting physical with them?
This is a super touchy subject & please be mindful of your comments. The last thing we as a community need is more 🌈 on 🌈 hate. Let’s be clear. Myles (from their own verbiage) was on all necessary meds to be undetectable. So NO they were not putting said person at risk. HOWEVER I whole heartedly disagree with the sentiment of not disclosing your HIV status if undetectable. When you interact with someone in a sexual manner that should be disclosed. What their status is, when tested last, if said person knows enough about the HIV status to understand what undetectable means. I understand it’s stigmatized. I understand you CANNOT infect them. They SHOULD STILL GET THE CHOICE to decide for themselves if they want to engage in intercourse. If they’re uneducated on how HIV undetectable status works this can cause fear anxiety even panic which could impact their mental health they could lash out towards said person and put themselves & said person in danger if they find out after the fact.
They should have the necessary info & know if intercourse happened they would be fine BUT THEY NEED TO BE INFORMED. I fully understand these are life saving medications and common sense says you would obviously be taking them. What happens when someone lies that they are undetectable, they forgot to take medication regularly (again I know it’s rare) or they maybe cannot afford their medications & have skipped taking them and lie , various other mishaps. The point is the other party needs to be informed and give consent. Not disclosing your status just feels like you are omitting information and being shady. I agree the habit of disclosing STIs or HIV should not have a negative stigma. Just the same as if someone tells me hey I’ve gone 8 months without getting tested. I should be given that info so I can make a choice for myself. We should frankly be having said conversations constantly & be getting tested constantly. We need to stop using verbiage like “clean” when discussing STIs or HIV. I appreciate Myles being an advocate and please listen to the full podcast. They had so much wonderful information that needs to be discussed.
Thank you for such a thoughtful comment. I agree you should never lie about your status and everyone has the right to know and have full disclosure. Myles does encourage and practice disclosure, but of course that comes with it’s own set of really tough conversations and judgements based on stigma and misinformation which can put people in real harm’s way. We hope that the sharing of such frustrations does not take away from the larger conversation and education within the episode as it is a bit of double sided sword
Shut up
I think there's a reason why it is stignatized. HIV is a contagious potentially fatal disease.
@@QueerCollectivenot having informed consent is r$pe you are encouraging him you might want to think about that
@@QueerCollective well “we” would hope y’all would advocate for the potential partners of such a selfish worm instead of giving a platform to him.
Thanks for this episode I have HIV and I’m struggling to find reasons to stay sober I’m glad he can do it. I have a hard time because I’m bi living with it.
The real ❤ ask questions ❤ Canadian sex education is not where it should be!! Talk to your children ❤
48:03 I think this is the clip that is causing so much hate. I understand where they are coming from but at the same time I’m sure they understand why a lot of people would disagree. Because are they referring to regular hiv or undetected HIV in this question? I Watching a bit more of the podcast I do however understand where they are coming from and it’s sad to see how much hate you guys are getting especially because these are the uncomfortable conversations that most people don’t have or don’t think about. So it’s good you guys have a podcast like this. I hope the hate hasn’t deterred you from continuing doing what you’re doing or having these types of conversations but I think it’s needed.
Regardless of regular or undetectable HIV you tell a partner before. Full stop. If you don't tell someone you have an STD, you're a scumbag piece of shit. There's no justification for playing with someone. Myles literally says in the beginning of the podcast "why would I sleep with someone who doesn't respect me?" He's not respecting his partners by not telling them he has HIV. DISGUSTING BEHAVIOR
it really doesnt matter what kind of hiv it is, saying you don't have a disease when you do because you know the person would likely reject sexual activity with you otherwise would be classified as rape or sexual assault by deception. please search this term up if you are not aware of it. it can take many forms such as lying about STD status, lying about infertility (either naturally or via a vasectomy/ tubes tied), secretly removing condoms during sex, impersonating someone's partner without their knowledge, not disclosing your birth sex if you are trans, etc.
Thank you for your comment and for listening! The hate has been the most intense we've ever received but honestly it's just encouraging us to do a follow-up episode. We've realized that clearly HIV education, stigma, & misinformation is much further behind than we thought. senidng you love.
It's sad you're supporting this disgusting behavior. Not disclosing your hiv status even if positive or not, is disgusting. You're taking away informed consent
I think I’m too woke to not see everyone’s outrage towards this video. I don’t think anyone in this video explicitly said HIV doesn’t spread, or that you shouldn’t disclose. Like idk what to say. They literally go into talking about what the right way to disclose is.
THANK YOU!!!
He's admitting he doesn't disclose it. He's taking away informed consent. He even said he told someone after making out. If you don't see a problem, I don't know what to tell you
@ He explicitly said the opposite; he does disclose because of the stigma. Also, kissing does not spread HIV.
@fembot3164 Kissing can spread HIV. Although rare, it's a possibility.
@@fembot3164 If both individuals have significant open sores or bleeding gums in their mouths, and blood from an HIV-positive person comes into contact with an open wound in the partner's mouth, there could be a risk. However, such instances are extremely rare.
I love this channel, its been nothing but helpful for me 🌈
Happy to hear that! Thank you so much for listening 💗🫶
Of course it has. This is the place to come to reaffirm your feelings. I mean this man with a beard wearing a dress comes here to be told he's a woman, and once you believe it, it's reality.
So you're fine with someone hiding their STDs from you until after sex?
@MystiKalLimitz02 nowhere in my comment did I say that. It was a generalized comment. It was their latest video, and I decided to leave the comment.
@@Kay-qs4wiu support this? Awful
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We clearly need more education on this after reading these comments !!! Thank you !!!
Not really yes he's right that if you are undetectable then you couldn't catch it but you should 100% still tell someone before you become physical with them. If that person isn't willing to understand then you probably don't need to be having intercourse with them.
Lol isn't willing to understand hahaha
Why should we get "educated"=confused and perverted, by people who wont even admit that this is an unhinged MAN. Thats a male human being, sick in the head, damaging others and defending it. You guys are lost.
Yeah, you're right. They need to stop pushing the undetectable=untransmissable narrative. Doctors and health experts even maintain that the undetectable=untransmissable status applies if it is 6 months straight or longer. How can we prove that the person has been taking their meds every day to suppress the virus? How can we prove that they have been getting tested regularly to determine that they've successfully maintained undetectable status for 6+ months? How can we prove that they are undetectable at the time of intercourse/sexual activity?
Even if there is "zero risk," the fact that it's reliant on a word of trust situation makes it even more reason to disclose it so the other non-infected party(s) aren't making uninformed decisions.
Even if they did something wrong, let’s not be homophobic or transphobic and say “these people”.
There's nothing wrong with saying these people. It's literally a group of people stop being so sensitive.
@ Of course you don’t realize the othering type of language that’s thrown in there. Learn some of that and quit being so sensitive yourself.
Thats a male human being...thats a man who pretends not to be. Its delusion and hes nasty, unhinged and dangerous for what hes doing. You guys are cooked in the head. Thats why people hate you more and more for all the right reasons.
@@mcgaming6387 Cry about it more
@ Stop acting as if you care. You already know you can’t get AIDS through kissing. Whatever, live your stupid lives even though “these people” are far better humans than you.
I'm early, and give food for the algorithm. 🌈
Hehe thank you for supporting ❤❤
Yeah you look like the walking stereotype of a woketard and you defend spreading deadly diseases. Thats a man...and a h*e.
thank you for this episode!!! I thought I was reasonably knowledgeable about HIV, but some of the advancements in the field were totally unknown to me. I learned so much! what a wonderful conversation.
@@ashtoncorson4425 thank you so much for listening and your kind comment🫶 it means a lot to us
Aw they're such a sweet authentic person and their hair is so beautiful. I relate to being sick and not knowing why!! Such a scary diagnosis. Great convo :) xx
I really love their shirt/top/blouse
Thank you for listening ❤ Myles is the best 🫶
Fr is so good to spread a very bad disease to people without their knowledge super powerful
You guys are so fucking insane
You are all disgusting
This was really educational, thank you for sharing!
Thank you so much for listening, so glad you enjoyed ❤
Agreed ^^😊
Im so sorry these comments r so broken 😭😭 im 1/3 the way through and loving this.
The way HIV/AIDS was treated led the way for future epidemics and pandemics honestly.
R.I.P. to all of the people that died before the meds were made and the people who continue to die because they cant access them.
Myles seems genuinely nice and if ur undetectable, who cares abt ur personal medical history. HIV/AIDS isnt a death sentence anymore.
It’s all an excuse for homophobia disguised as pretend concern
Dumb, mentally ill, or evil.
🤨 And your mindset on this topic shows how immature and ignorant you are. HIV is absolutely still a serious virus 63k people died from hiv causes last year. That’s 63k people that would still be alive today had they not been infected. Don’t be stupid. Educate yourself before saying nonsensical things
Yea just treat aids and hiv like the common cold, surely that won’t backfire in anyway. If 1000 people disagree with you and somehow you still think you’re right, it’s time to look inwards and understand the words coming out of your mouth.
Not disclosing you have an sti while kissing someone is criminal, all it takes is a small unknown cut on the gum and you’ve ruined someone’s life if not killed them. Dude needs to grow up and stop acting like a teenager
Tell that when you get infected.
Sad to see homophobia is alive and well in this comments section.
@@HolyLSD your mentality is literally killing queer people. You’re not a decent person, you’re a Nazi.
Bitch no. This white guy is the most audacious white guy to ever live. The only reason to not disclose is to not get rejected. He has a responsibility to inform his partners otherwise its not truly consent. If the chemistry was Awesome id fuck him but not raw. Informed consent is the only consent that matters.
@@HolyLSD To them, it's the same thing.
The only thing they approve of is spreading degeneracy or sickness.
Drag queen story time anyone?
Qc6057 - you promote r*pe culture and no consent. And you have the audacity to call people homophobic for being disgusted with you and the people in this podcast.
@@PresidentDrPeperhe has the right to live his truth. If you were an ally, you’d support him. His illness doesn’t define who he is.