@@ytherenounicorns5077 someone else from Indiana posted that Libby’s dad is a felon and Libby was pregnant at the time. I have no way to prove these allegations, but apparently Kelsi was drawing comparisons in this crime to the shack in the book The Shack.
I don't know how this jury didn't see through this BS! I'm absolutely sick over this! That judge should have not been allowed on this case! He got the most unfair trial in history!
See through what exactly? They heard his confessions and voice something you or I haven’t heard. They unanimously decided he was guilty. He likely is guilty. I believe they made the right decision.
RA is BG = ( Picture ) + ( bullet) + ( being on the bridge, according to him) + (having the same clothes, by him) + ( having every phone he owned, except the one used at the time of the crime) + (confessing 61 times) + (same BG voice) = RA is BG
Dude there's 2000 people in Delphi. He admitted to being there at the same time wearing the same fuking clothes before he knew they had him on video. He corroborated the van spooking him on his own and covering them with branches. Ejection marks from firearms are unique, all you need to do is simply google fired vs unfired ballistics and be educated. What do you think happens when you get arrested for murder? They put you in a room by yourself until trial. It was HIS OWN ATTORNEYS that delayed the trial multiple times, not the State. True crime cult members, give it a rest.
And not once in his phone calls or therapy sessions did he say he confessed because he wasn't in his right mind. Only people denying it is his defense and his family.
Hopefully they present all the evidence in the appeal and this judge be removed from her position never allowed to over see another case. Anybody that thinks this is just is insane. He did not have a fair trial. Every American especially Delphi residents should be upset about the handling of this case.
So the judge said they couldn't mention this 'Odin' religion stuff and the symbol painted in blood on the tree by where the girls were found. What about that? I'm still not sure why the judge said they couldn't talk about it. I hope someone does an expose' on this.
To use a third party defense you have to have some good evidence, because you could be accusing innocent people. For example, the blood stain is described as a symbol by the defense, but it is just a blood stain that looks kind of like a letter. It is not proven to be a symbol. The sticks on the bodies are not proven to be runes, let alone Odinist runes. The Odinist people they point at are not proven to be in the area at the time. One had an alibi of work and phone analysis showed another was 120 miles away on the day of the murders. There is no evidence the Odinist guards have any connection to the victims or the other so called Odinists. It was just a load of info bundled together by a clever defense team but not enough to make accusations as a third party defense.
There was no symbol written in blood. The arrangement of the sticks was not part of a ritual. I saw the diagrams when Paranormal Files did this story. There were diagrams of Odin rituals and diagram of how the sticks were placed on the bodies. It took a very long stretch of the imagination to coincide all of this. Besides, RA confessed to putting sticks on them to conceal their bodies. Same with blood on tree. Nothing.
@@jenniferunderwood951 Pulaski, Tennessee is where the KKK was started and supposedly there is a headquarters there. Almost every state has a 'HQ' though. I don't think of Odinism as a cult, more of a pagan order, but the media likes to label things with buzzwords that get views. During this investigation, this was the first time I had heard of Odinism being linked to white supremacy.
His wife needs to face the fact that he did this. He tried to tell her multiple times. Just cuz she doesn’t want to believe he did it doesn’t mean he didn’t.
I wonder if the girls' families are 100% sure that the right man has been found guilty. The investigation was so shoddy, too many people are not convinced beyond reasonable doubt.
Hopeful an appeal occurs so that RA gets a fair trial away from Delphi LE and Gull. The case was mishandled I terms of not testing the hair samples in the girls’ hands, not interviewing Libby’s mom, not properly investigating (and allowing for the defense to present these findings) Elvis Fields, Brad Holder, Ron Logan, Keagan K., and Shane Evans. The timing of crime with phone data, the erratic phone data (pinging at 4a), Abby’s clean hands, the open area of the crime scene (not remote), the staged appearance of the girls vs covered in leaves, etc. There is definitely grounds for reasonable doubt. Humbly accertion: this case needs taken further away from Delphi with additional Defense assistance (eg Andrea Burkhart).
We'll never get their whole story because this was spoliation from day one. They chose to protect a federal informant so they wouldn't lose their funding..
From the moment they arrested Allen and refused to release the Probable Cause Affidavit I knew the case against Allen was weak and couldn’t be trusted.
Didn't from the beginning. Spoliation.. they knew who it was to begin with but they would rather protect a federal informant, that bragged about doing it. If they didn't, they would have lost their funding. It's always greed.
This was not the expected verdict. I'd love to hear more about the two men who were in the area at the time of the murders who told Police Libby's name and information about the crime scene before the bodies were even found. They said their saliva may be discovered on the bodies.
I have no idea how he was found guilty on that flimsy evidence. Scares me that a guilty verdict can come from so little evidence. Basically, there is no evidence. I’m shocked. 😮😮😮
Richard Allen convicted himself! By telling police he was not only there but was on the high bridge, he told police he was wearing what bridge guy was wearing, he told police he saw the other group of girls, then he told others 61+ times that he did it! 🙄
I dont think he did it either. I think they picked allen as a fall guy. Why wasnt that hair tested that was around abbys finger? And all they had to link allen was some confessions after being in solitary and a shell casing when a gun wasnt even used. I think someone else did it. I truly feel for kathy and their daughter. I pray that the girls are at peace as well as their families, but this wasnt justice. Justice is clear and evident, this isnt.
@@badashh420 Possibly because Abby pulled Kelsies hair at some point, but again this very important piece of information was not brought into the trial.
I followed Lauren on Hidden True Crime and I think the jury got it right. There were certain things that a common sense person cannot deny. But if you start out with the mindset of no cameras, its shady attitude the mind has already closed down as to accepting anything as fact. Too many people got sidetracked. The jury had no opinion going in. They asked intelligent questions. They were plugged in to getting it right. Lots of Podcasters took people on a ride and got people riled. Burkhart should know better but she's an appellate lawyer and it's her job I guess to be critical of lower courts. But she works hard to impress followers for whatever reason. Must be slow at the office. Lauren was just the facts and didn't push bs like so many others did.
He had a jury trial. He had good lawyers. The jury followed the evidence. You don’t get granted an appeal unless something was done so wrong that it’d change the outcome of the trial. And the guy admitted to being when the girls were, in the exact same clothes. So come on…what do you need? A video?
@@thomsonmaclean2041 Have you seen the KK Interview w/MS? I watched it last week and said wow that sounds just like BG. But I know there are many opinions out there, and am not saying it was KK.
@@briancrawford2192 maybe they’ve been in such turmoil over the loss of their daughters for so long with no one pronounced “guilty “ that now, to some extent it’s over. I can’t imagine the emotional pain of losing someone in such a horrific way.
@@carol.luna.stella if you look at old footage you will see that Libby’s dad was standing with Libby’s mom and flashing an odinist hand sign - something eerie going on in that town!
I just wish we all could have more confidence in this verdict being correct. I'm personally left feeling like I did before the trial...I dont know if he's guilty or not. I cant help but have reasonable doubt, but I didn't see what the jury saw.
What made the decision clear for me was his confession with mentioning the white van. I rewatched grey Hugh’s timeline and he died an amazing job I rewatched it last night and I now know they made the right decision. Praying for all the families 🙏💜🩵💜🩵
@@Fnaf-andfriendshe was told information about the case including the van by his therapist…. He made a bunch of confessions that weren’t true. He said he killed his grandkids when he doesn’t even have grandkids.
Just wait till the jurors get home and see everything they were not allowed to see during trial. I’m curious if their opinion changes. The judge is somehow connected to some sort of cover up. Even if it’s a cover up of how shitty this whole thing was handled. She should’ve stepped off this case to ensure there would be a fair trial. She obviously had some sort of beef with the attorneys and it was too messy to be a verdict I could go to sleep at night and be happy about it. I’m not saying he didn’t do it. I’m saying this man didn’t get fair treatment or a fair trial and he appears factually innocent outside of his own words saying things under extreme duress. Too much doubt to convict someone beyond a reasonable doubt.
@@thechronicillnessdiaries2773Same with Madeleine McCann... it's looking like it was Tony Blair who is being protected, he's on the S/O Register under his middle names, Charles Lynton?
She knows the truth in her heart. Her mind needs to accept it. I think she knew he was guilty from the beginning, but I can understand trying so hard for it not to be true.
They can appeal this over and over. Richard Allen placed himself at the scene at the time. If he didn’t do it , he needs to tell someone who did. He was there.
@-43645 - Geo fencing data puts 3 other phones in the area, but the judge did not let the defense admit. RA phone not there at the time window. That's why not allowed as evidence,
Theres So much more. Idk if he's guilty or not. All I know is if so... he didn't act alone. Brad Holder and Elvis Fields... Brad Weber... there were A LOT of other folks there and affiliated with these girls. For example, Brad Holders son, Logan, dated Abby... but don't nobody seem to gaf about truth, so long as somebody hangs
@@yeezywesty3651 He testified twice. First time he said he was the from 12- 1:30. After they had a video of his car the second time he testified he was there from 1:30 to 3:30. His words. Not mine.
I cant see how the family can feel good about this verdict. The evidence just isnt there to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. I really feel bad for the jury who may go back and see all the evidence that was kept from them. This is no justice for anyone..
He may be the killer, but it just didn't seem like there was enough evidence for a guilty verdict. The local police force royally screwed up this investigation. Not too sure that justice was served today.
They made him the fall guy..... There were SO MANY holes in the prosecutors case. I'm sure if I was IN SOLITARY FOR 13-15 MONTHS, I'm sure I'd be saying some crazy things as well. My thoughts are with his family ❤
There’s no way his wife didn’t recognize him from the get go. I’m sure it would be horrible to find out you married a monster, but shame on her for not speaking up from the start. Shame on the incompetent, local police who messed this case up from the start. If cops won’t allow state & federal resources to help, especially in a tiny town like this, there needs to be a way for the local population & victims’ families to fight to get professional law enforcement brought in to solve the case.
@@juliannfriend6226 It's my understanding that to this day, even post trial that everybody says they're not sure who BG is. But maybe I'm missing something?
@@juliannfriend6226Irrelevant... BG wasn't on that phone,or involved with the kidnappings, he was too far away in the video all witnesses said last less than 30 seconds, it takes 6 minutes to cross that bridge... doubtful even the girls were there that day either,zero definitive proof, the text to Libby's friend Max at 2.13am(yup,that number once again?)asking him to come to the MHB was telling...was Libby already dead by then in put in a freezer, her blood was dry,and running upwards,whereas Abby's was just congealing? Had it been any other time,it wouldn't have jumped out, but even sick Gull tried to deliver the verdict at 2.13pm,only to be thwarted by a train on the Delphi railroad crossing... proof she's in it up to her own neck in the conspiracy!(bet there's cameras in court at the sentencing?).
@@johannawigg6921you don't know that. It's one thing to believe the investigation wasn't strong enough and that there were issues with the evidence, but you really have no idea if he did it or not because you weren't there.
@@melistasyWe do know there is no evidence tying him to the murders, the men who confessed to information about the murder scene before the bodies were even found look more guilty to me. They even suggested their dna may be found on the bodies.
@@van_ill Yeah no doubt this was an odinist human sacrifice ritual done by white supremacists and judge gull is a high ranking fully patched odinist member leading the cover up. There's also no doubt the jury were all odinist members too. 👍
@@van_ill I hate to tell you but he saw their patches and fully fabricated a story. So he knew about “Odonists did it” the whole time since he called the hotline and never said anything about it?? Is that your claim? He is guilty.
Oh it’s over. Richard Allen’s wife turned him in when she insisted he tell law enforcement he was “out on the trail that day “. Then in front of Law Enforcement she said “ you told me you were on the trail and you weren’t on the bridge “? Richard Allen got scared when the video came out and told her he was on the trail. Hoping she never knew he was on the bridge. She may have recognized him and his voice. The girls solved their own murder with that video. Otherwise Richard Allen would have never even told his wife he was out there that day. And he would have still been out living amongst us , and do it again. God Bless those girls 🙏
@@garnetandgold07 Why are you being so nasty and sarcastic? This isn't the first comment of yours that's been like this. Maybe you don't agree with the verdict but there's no reason to be an a*s to other people discussing the case.
@@garnetandgold07 You are a rude person. She was giving her opinion. He's guilty as charged on all counts and deserves whatever sentence the judge passes down. A jury of 12 people who dedicated their lives to seeking the truth found him guilty. The easy verdict is to say not guilty, but they put in their due diligence and came to a thoughtful and just decision. The system worked and convicted a murder of children.
I'm stumped .. I cannot understand for the life of me, why so many questions on few others Alibi's this is a confusing case .I'm not really all for this verdict ..jury's have known to convict lots of innocent people .
No, because the time Weber left his work was so specific (2:02pm) because he has to clock out. The BG video was taken at 2:14pm, so it would not be possible for Weber to get home, park up and get on the bridge in that time.
The wrong person was on trial due to the small communities' ties to cults and strange Odinist beliefs. Can’t change what a judge wanted to have happen. Defense was fighting a system with their hands tied behind their backs.
@Kirra2122 I live in South Africa. We also have witchdoctors, Tokoloshe, and different ancestral beliefs. People practice strange rituals all the time.
If that precious little girl (Libby) could go to all the effort to film her murderer, the least we could do is put him behind bars. I think she died taking him off the streets so he couldn’t do this again. She died (and Abby, too) handing over the evidence to put him away. I hope he stays there and never hurts another child.
@@Kim-C33 we don't know what bridge guy looks like. We do know what he was wearing and what day and time he was there,, Ra admitted to wearing the same clothes and being there at the same time. No other man was there.
I've never bought that for a second!!! Yeah, they were afraid for their safety, so they began recording while standing still when they could have made a run for it!!!??? What a crock of s*** !!!! "Oh, wow what brave girls to film their Murderer" !??? Are you people serious? OBVIOUSLY a staged video!!!!
Thank god Gull will be off this case and this travesty is over RA will get out on appeal no worries I guess the families didnt want the true monsters who did this to their children they just wanted anybody to go down for it well they got their wish
@@AshleySmyth1212 Let’s say that the judge allowed the Odinistic sacrifice defense. RA would have to say that he is not an Odinist and the defense would have to offer someone who is, exposing all of them, which RA would never do. The defense didn’t have anyone else to offer credible doubt. So the defense didn’t prove beyond a shadow of doubt that RA was not the pedophile murderer.
It is not over. The people will demand that the injustice and corruption be thrown out. Appeal is already being filed and has most of the country behind it. The jury can go to hell. It wasn't provided the truth.
Actually it is over, Kathy. I feel bad to her - to a degree - but the minute she realized that he was on the bridge (AFTER HE LIED TO HER ABOUT IT)… she should have accepted the truth. She knows good and well that it was him in that video. Then he tried - OVER AND OVER - to confess to her and she repeatedly hung up on him and told him to stop. Her being in denial does not make him any less guilty, and I find it extremely disgusting that she’d choose today to speak about it “not being over”.
It's not over. Kathy is right. There will be an appeal. Perhaps then we will hear all the evidence and not just the select pieces that Gull allowed. We all want justice for Abby and Libby of course, but we need to know that the right man has been convicted for this terrible crime.
I disagree. There’s not one shred of DNA. There’s so much reasonable doubt it is actually insane. They will find the culprit one day. This is so sad. And Richard Allen has been railroaded for years. He was kept in isolation for years and had periods of pure inanity. That alone is torture.
She's more upset about losing because it embarrasses her in her home town. She has a stain on her and she can't handle it. The women has a lot of inner work to do. I doubt a therapist could even help her. She has a redneck mentality.
@marymargaret3142 - How did it get wet after tge girls had already crossed the creek? How then did it supposedly dry itself out while laying on the ground? The headphone code was written in the logs. That required manual manipulation.
Great job WTHR Thank you all for your coverage! I hope Abby and Libby’s family have peace from the verdict today although I’m sure there is never complete closure my heart goes out to them!
Dumb comment. Use your brain. It was him. All the “evidence” kept from him wasn’t evidence at all. It was nonsense conspiracy theories. There’s a reason it wasn’t allowed in court. Because it was ridiculous nonsense
I think his wife is a lot smarter and more mentally stable than you are. You are part of the mob rule brigade. Hey! I thought IQ of 100 was average in the developed world.🤔 😉
I actually think she knows. I dont see her as a victim anymore I see her as complicit. Either that or she needs some serious mental help even more than Rick. She was an enabler.
Guilty! He told you all himself. And if his wife believed in him so much why was she not on the stand saying thats not his voice? Sorry but not sorry a wife knows her husbands walk talk look. Look at photos of him back then looks like bridge guy. Dude didnt act crazy until he k ew he was in trouble!
@@beachfairy There's nothing "conspiratorial" about someone confessing to two siblings and asking a trooper if he'd be in trouble if he spat on one of the girls. You don't have to buy into the Odinism to see this is more than a one-man job and that there were much more promising suspects that LE dismissed with no satisfactory explanation.
This woman is an enabler and is sick to stay married to this murderer. She damn well knows he is guilty of heinous killings but sat there in court and refused to believe what was right in front of her face.
You realize many highly publicized cases have people come forward with false confessions. The man you are speaking of lived over two hours away, mentally challenged with the mind of a seven year old, and did not own a vehicle. Let alone his cell phone activity that day shown he did not leave the area.
@EgyptianDarling But he had close friends.. His comment alone needed to be looked at further... Just another couple of interviews that were lost during that first 70 days. Imagine how important the first 70 days' worth of evidence is.
@@unapologeticallyauthentic That's the defense council's place to present any evidence they can to the jury which casts doubt on the prosecution's theory. That's the way the system works. We can only assume a jury of Richard Allens' peers did not find the defense's case compelling- and they heard much more than any of us did,
Delphi dosent care as long as they have someone/ anyone for this crime. I'm shocked that a jury can find someone guilty when there is so much reasonable doubt. I do not believe for one minute this crime was committed by one person.
you are speculating. the jury made their decision based on the facts of the case, as well as the numerous unprovoked confessions. why can't you just believe he's guilty? he seems to believe he is.....
Yall just gonna give Elvis Fields and Brad Holder free passes then. Brad Holders son..Logan, dated Abby. BH is a ... well, BH. And nm Greg Ferency (FBI) was ambushed and unalived after he started digging into this case... by a CO! Idk if RA is guilty or not... he very well may be, but he aure as chit didnt act alone!
😂😂😂 She needs to be in jail! Her husband confessed to her numerous times and her only reaction was to try and save his ass! She's as efed up as he is! I guarantee she knew more!
Not even close. I'll be eager to see what the jury's reaction will be when they find out all the things they weren't told. Absolute travesty but I don't blame them for having incomplete information.
RA is BG = ( Picture ) + ( bullet) + ( being on the bridge, according to him) + (having the same clothes, by him) + ( having every phone he owned, except the one used at the time of the crime) + (confessing 61 times) + (same BG voice) = RA is BG
So for everyone that thinks he's innocent, can we just ask Richard who did it? He was there according to his testimony. When Richard Allen told police, first interview, that he was there between 12.00 and 1:30 p.m. he's putting himself outside of the girls time frame. Then on the second interview he says that he was there between 1:30 and 3:30 because of needing to deal with the camera filming his vehicle and eye witnesses seeing him. He tells them that he was wearing what bridge guy was wearing but that he is not the image on the girls' cell phone. He tells them that he was sitting on the bridge, looking at fish, so he puts himself there, in the time frame that the girls would be there, but he denies seeing the girls or the bridge guy. At the scene of the crime at the time of the crime. That's not unreasonable.
Richard Allen is guilty. He was diagnosed as being Psychotic, he confessed 61 times and the Mountain of evidence against him is overwhleming. Shame on anyone casting doubt. Abby and Libby's family and that entire community have suffered enough from Richard Allen's heinous snd senseless acts. Who knows what else his wife allowed him to get away with over the years. You're right it's not over because now it's time to look into you lady.
APPEAL!! This man wasn’t given a fair trial.
You didn’t see it hush
😵💫😵💫keep holding your breath for that
How so?
The whole town is dodgy and so are the family. The family laughing should tell you all you need to know.
Who would ever want to move here? Yikes!
100%
@@ytherenounicorns5077 someone else from Indiana posted that Libby’s dad is a felon and Libby was pregnant at the time. I have no way to prove these allegations, but apparently Kelsi was drawing comparisons in this crime to the shack in the book The Shack.
@@ytherenounicorns5077 I agree.
@@jenniferunderwood951 The prosecutors (good ol boy Nick McLeland's) aunt is also married to Libby's grandfather.
I don't know how this jury didn't see through this BS! I'm absolutely sick over this! That judge should have not been allowed on this case! He got the most unfair trial in history!
See through what exactly? They heard his confessions and voice something you or I haven’t heard. They unanimously decided he was guilty. He likely is guilty. I believe they made the right decision.
I think that they have the wrong person
RA is BG = ( Picture ) + ( bullet) + ( being on the bridge, according to him) + (having the same clothes, by him) + ( having every phone he owned, except the one used at the time of the crime) + (confessing 61 times) + (same BG voice) = RA is BG
Sentencing??? He was sentenced years ago. If you break a person down you can make them say anything
68 times? 😂
@@Buckeye2043 what? you think you could cope better than he did in those circumstances?
Dude there's 2000 people in Delphi. He admitted to being there at the same time wearing the same fuking clothes before he knew they had him on video. He corroborated the van spooking him on his own and covering them with branches. Ejection marks from firearms are unique, all you need to do is simply google fired vs unfired ballistics and be educated.
What do you think happens when you get arrested for murder? They put you in a room by yourself until trial. It was HIS OWN ATTORNEYS that delayed the trial multiple times, not the State. True crime cult members, give it a rest.
And not once in his phone calls or therapy sessions did he say he confessed because he wasn't in his right mind. Only people denying it is his defense and his family.
@@melistasy he also referred to the girls by name which is unusual if he was guilty
Something is OFF with this case, LE, the judge, detectives, etc… too much secrecy!!
Hopefully they present all the evidence in the appeal and this judge be removed from her position never allowed to over see another case. Anybody that thinks this is just is insane. He did not have a fair trial. Every American especially Delphi residents should be upset about the handling of this case.
lol
lol take your meds.
@Froby2378 won't change that he did it tho.
They should be upset and ashamed of themselves. I believe they most likely know who those murderers are but prefer to keep quiet
@@pumpkinfield100 🤡🤡
Blows my mind that none of the people that knew him well recognized him in the video. I don't buy it. He has a very distinctive look.
They wouldn’t recognize Donald Trump at the CVS. Blows my mind too
The denial was strong.
Denial and disbelief was incredibly strong. I bet he apologises during sentencing
Exactly, they know it's him. They're in denial
The video is garbage, that could be a million different people
So the judge said they couldn't mention this 'Odin' religion stuff and the symbol painted in blood on the tree by where the girls were found. What about that? I'm still not sure why the judge said they couldn't talk about it. I hope someone does an expose' on this.
Maybe she's the cult leader?
To use a third party defense you have to have some good evidence, because you could be accusing innocent people. For example, the blood stain is described as a symbol by the defense, but it is just a blood stain that looks kind of like a letter. It is not proven to be a symbol. The sticks on the bodies are not proven to be runes, let alone Odinist runes. The Odinist people they point at are not proven to be in the area at the time. One had an alibi of work and phone analysis showed another was 120 miles away on the day of the murders. There is no evidence the Odinist guards have any connection to the victims or the other so called Odinists. It was just a load of info bundled together by a clever defense team but not enough to make accusations as a third party defense.
There was no symbol written in blood. The arrangement of the sticks was not part of a ritual. I saw the diagrams when Paranormal Files did this story. There were diagrams of Odin rituals and diagram of how the sticks were placed on the bodies. It took a very long stretch of the imagination to coincide all of this. Besides, RA confessed to putting sticks on them to conceal their bodies. Same with blood on tree. Nothing.
@@KimberlyLetsGo I’ve heard of Odin, but never heard of the cult, but I do think I’ve heard HQ for KKK is in Indiana.
@@jenniferunderwood951 Pulaski, Tennessee is where the KKK was started and supposedly there is a headquarters there. Almost every state has a 'HQ' though. I don't think of Odinism as a cult, more of a pagan order, but the media likes to label things with buzzwords that get views. During this investigation, this was the first time I had heard of Odinism being linked to white supremacy.
"This isn't over at all" is what his wife said? They still have to sentence him in December so she is right about that. I am so glad they got him.
I think they have convicted an innocent man😢
I don't think he is innocent, however, there didn't seem to be enough evidence to convict.
His wife needs to face the fact that he did this. He tried to tell her multiple times. Just cuz she doesn’t want to believe he did it doesn’t mean he didn’t.
I wonder if the girls' families are 100% sure that the right man has been found guilty. The investigation was so shoddy, too many people are not convinced beyond reasonable doubt.
I dont think the family will find any peace from this verdict. LE , the State and the judge ruined it for them forever by planting doubt.
These families need help to get through the aftermath of this tragedy.
Hopeful an appeal occurs so that RA gets a fair trial away from Delphi LE and Gull.
The case was mishandled I terms of not testing the hair samples in the girls’ hands, not interviewing Libby’s mom, not properly investigating (and allowing for the defense to present these findings) Elvis Fields, Brad Holder, Ron Logan, Keagan K., and Shane Evans. The timing of crime with phone data, the erratic phone data (pinging at 4a), Abby’s clean hands, the open area of the crime scene (not remote), the staged appearance of the girls vs covered in leaves, etc. There is definitely grounds for reasonable doubt. Humbly accertion: this case needs taken further away from Delphi with additional Defense assistance (eg Andrea Burkhart).
Is today the day when we get to hear the whole story, Doug Carter? We’ve waited a LONG time.
I bet we don't get his story. I don't think he has one.
We'll never get their whole story because this was spoliation from day one.
They chose to protect a federal informant so they wouldn't lose their funding..
DC is full of hot air. I doubt we will ever hear the whole story. 🙄
His story has been "somebody knows something" all along, and, you know what? He may even be correct 😅
The whole story is out. Stop being dramatic.
Why the gag order after the verdict? The case is over, why the gag? It dont smell right!
Judge is a control freak!
#NOCAMERASNOWONDER
@@deliajones9541 The whole handling of the case is fishy. This just adds to it.
From the moment they arrested Allen and refused to release the Probable Cause Affidavit I knew the case against Allen was weak and couldn’t be trusted.
Didn't from the beginning. Spoliation.. they knew who it was to begin with but they would rather protect a federal informant, that bragged about doing it. If they didn't, they would have lost their funding.
It's always greed.
It had a smell about it from the get go. The pressure was on they needed a fall guy.
I don't know but I feel like they got this wrong...
This was not the expected verdict. I'd love to hear more about the two men who were in the area at the time of the murders who told Police Libby's name and information about the crime scene before the bodies were even found. They said their saliva may be discovered on the bodies.
There was no saliva from anyone.
What are the names of these two men? The only dna found was a hair but it transfer from her sister.
Cops threatened the jury.
Elvis Fields
@@whitedragoness23 ....Pat Westfall.
She’s delusional.
BG isn’t RA
@@greenmanalishi6963he is and the jury thought so too
@@RamblingRikers kelsi German BF
Yes he is.
I have no idea how he was found guilty on that flimsy evidence. Scares me that a guilty verdict can come from so little evidence. Basically, there is no evidence. I’m shocked. 😮😮😮
He talked to the cops.
well, maybe he shouldn't have confessed so many times, especially when he wasn't being coerced to do so.
Maybe it was his 90 confessions and the fact that he was actually there?
No you're not, you're just trolling. The evidence is overwhelming
@@Staceypotterphotography maybe the video ? Are you dim ?
RIP Libby and Abby 💚. God bless their families and friends, I am so happy to hear that justice has been served.
Richard Allen convicted himself! By telling police he was not only there but was on the high bridge, he told police he was wearing what bridge guy was wearing, he told police he saw the other group of girls, then he told others 61+ times that he did it! 🙄
I dont think he did it either. I think they picked allen as a fall guy.
Why wasnt that hair tested that was around abbys finger? And all they had to link allen was some confessions after being in solitary and a shell casing when a gun wasnt even used.
I think someone else did it. I truly feel for kathy and their daughter. I pray that the girls are at peace as well as their families, but this wasnt justice. Justice is clear and evident, this isnt.
The hair found at the crime scene belonged to Kelsie German, Libbys sister.
🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽 guilty
@mizteek5024 why was her hair on abbys hand?
@@badashh420 They often wear each others clothes like teenagers do. Esp jackets, coats, sweatshirts.
@@badashh420 Possibly because Abby pulled Kelsies hair at some point, but again this very important piece of information was not brought into the trial.
He needs to appeal. How can he be guilty if the evidence is weak and inconclusive?
I followed Lauren on Hidden True Crime and I think the jury got it right. There were certain things that a common sense person cannot deny. But if you start out with the mindset of no cameras, its shady attitude the mind has already closed down as to accepting anything as fact. Too many people got sidetracked. The jury had no opinion going in. They asked intelligent questions. They were plugged in to getting it right. Lots of Podcasters took people on a ride and got people riled. Burkhart should know better but she's an appellate lawyer and it's her job I guess to be critical of lower courts. But she works hard to impress followers for whatever reason. Must be slow at the office. Lauren was just the facts and didn't push bs like so many others did.
He had a jury trial. He had good lawyers. The jury followed the evidence. You don’t get granted an appeal unless something was done so wrong that it’d change the outcome of the trial. And the guy admitted to being when the girls were, in the exact same clothes. So come on…what do you need? A video?
you seem to discount all those confessions.....
@@Trouble-Clef 😂. I don't know if you were being clever about the video but I had to laugh.
Sorry boo, it's over. You've just hit the first stage of grief. Next will be anger, following by bargaining, then depression and finally acceptance.
That psychological thesis of grief has been outdated by about 20 years!
"Down the hill" comment sounds like Doug Carter!
Sounds and looks like a few people, but it doesn't sound like Richard Allan.
Is Doug carter the police chief? I thought this for a long time, build as well. But I believe RA is guilty
@@thomsonmaclean2041 Have you seen the KK Interview w/MS? I watched it last week and said wow that sounds just like BG. But I know there are many opinions out there, and am not saying it was KK.
I always thought that🤔
Also Kegen Kline.
Is that the reporter who junped the queue and disrespected the line to get into court??
Yep ..one of them did
how the families can feel that justice has been done is perplexing. Blatant miscarriage of justice
@@briancrawford2192 maybe they’ve been in such turmoil over the loss of their daughters for so long with no one pronounced “guilty “ that now, to some extent it’s over. I can’t imagine the emotional pain of losing someone in such a horrific way.
No it actually was not. Justice has prevailed here. He is guilty.
Mentally ill comment
@briancrawford2192 what ???? 🤦♀️🤣🤣
Noooo way! Jury got it right!
No justice ♎
Wife needs to walk away and divorce her monster 👺 it’s over!
Praise God for helping the girls dear families. May they be surrounded by love and peace ❤
Praise God for what?
@@carol.luna.stella if you look at old footage you will see that Libby’s dad was standing with Libby’s mom and flashing an odinist hand sign - something eerie going on in that town!
@@Rune789brainwashed delusional brain rot, stop listening to other dumb people
Time to investigate Kathy Allen and her part or knowledge of these murders.
I just wish we all could have more confidence in this verdict being correct. I'm personally left feeling like I did before the trial...I dont know if he's guilty or not. I cant help but have reasonable doubt, but I didn't see what the jury saw.
What made the decision clear for me was his confession with mentioning the white van. I rewatched grey Hugh’s timeline and he died an amazing job I rewatched it last night and I now know they made the right decision. Praying for all the families 🙏💜🩵💜🩵
@@Wendy-Williams-NC same here.
@@Fnaf-andfriendshe didn’t mention the white van. He mentioned a vehicle.
@@Fnaf-andfriendshe was told information about the case including the van by his therapist…. He made a bunch of confessions that weren’t true. He said he killed his grandkids when he doesn’t even have grandkids.
Fortunately, you don't need to feel 100% confident about the verdict, since it's the jury's job to feel this way.
It's sad to think that if he had abused his daughter the wife would have not believed her and stuck up for him.
Just wait till the jurors get home and see everything they were not allowed to see during trial. I’m curious if their opinion changes. The judge is somehow connected to some sort of cover up. Even if it’s a cover up of how shitty this whole thing was handled. She should’ve stepped off this case to ensure there would be a fair trial. She obviously had some sort of beef with the attorneys and it was too messy to be a verdict I could go to sleep at night and be happy about it. I’m not saying he didn’t do it. I’m saying this man didn’t get fair treatment or a fair trial and he appears factually innocent outside of his own words saying things under extreme duress. Too much doubt to convict someone beyond a reasonable doubt.
Watch Crimes Circus coverage of it. He explains so much.
Exactly. I think they are protecting someone on "inside" of Delphi.
@@thechronicillnessdiaries2773Same with Madeleine McCann... it's looking like it was Tony Blair who is being protected, he's on the S/O Register under his middle names, Charles Lynton?
Nope
@@cindyolson7685Seriously? He is now a credible YT’er
Maybe Mrs Allen needs to take a minute and sit with the truth she’s so keen to dismiss. She knows whether she wants to admit it or not.
She knows the truth in her heart. Her mind needs to accept it. I think she knew he was guilty from the beginning, but I can understand trying so hard for it not to be true.
They can appeal this over and over. Richard Allen placed himself at the scene at the time. If he didn’t do it , he needs to tell someone who did. He was there.
not there at the time, he had left the area well before the events later that day.
@-43645 - Geo fencing data puts 3 other phones in the area, but the judge did not let the defense admit. RA phone not there at the time window. That's why not allowed as evidence,
Theres So much more. Idk if he's guilty or not. All I know is if so... he didn't act alone. Brad Holder and Elvis Fields... Brad Weber... there were A LOT of other folks there and affiliated with these girls. For example, Brad Holders son, Logan, dated Abby... but don't nobody seem to gaf about truth, so long as somebody hangs
@lc285 so he left his phone elsewhere?? Not that hard, he is absolutely guilty
@@yeezywesty3651 He testified twice. First time he said he was the from 12- 1:30. After they had a video of his car the second time he testified he was there from 1:30 to 3:30. His words. Not mine.
I cant see how the family can feel good about this verdict. The evidence just isnt there to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. I really feel bad for the jury who may go back and see all the evidence that was kept from them. This is no justice for anyone..
He may be the killer, but it just didn't seem like there was enough evidence for a guilty verdict. The local police force royally screwed up this investigation. Not too sure that justice was served today.
Guilty
@@HandsomeKentinnocent....bring on the appeal
Guilty !!
How can you say that unless you have seen the evidence? You have not.
@@Jacob-ng1wk I'm not the only one who has said it, including other lawyers and pundits.
They made him the fall guy.....
There were SO MANY holes in the prosecutors case. I'm sure if I was IN SOLITARY FOR 13-15 MONTHS, I'm sure I'd be saying some crazy things as well. My thoughts are with his family ❤
🙄
"my thoughts are with his family". Yea who cares about the real victims right? This is why nobody with a brain likes you people.
I agree 100%
Not solitary confinement.
Grow up
There’s no way his wife didn’t recognize him from the get go. I’m sure it would be horrible to find out you married a monster, but shame on her for not speaking up from the start. Shame on the incompetent, local police who messed this case up from the start. If cops won’t allow state & federal resources to help, especially in a tiny town like this, there needs to be a way for the local population & victims’ families to fight to get professional law enforcement brought in to solve the case.
She scrubbed her facebook account right after the arrest.
@@enick7955It is impossible that she didn't know that he was bg
@@enick7955 Wouldn't you?
@@juliannfriend6226 It's my understanding that to this day, even post trial that everybody says they're not sure who BG is. But maybe I'm missing something?
@@juliannfriend6226Irrelevant... BG wasn't on that phone,or involved with the kidnappings, he was too far away in the video all witnesses said last less than 30 seconds, it takes 6 minutes to cross that bridge... doubtful even the girls were there that day either,zero definitive proof, the text to Libby's friend Max at 2.13am(yup,that number once again?)asking him to come to the MHB was telling...was Libby already dead by then in put in a freezer, her blood was dry,and running upwards,whereas Abby's was just congealing? Had it been any other time,it wouldn't have jumped out, but even sick Gull tried to deliver the verdict at 2.13pm,only to be thwarted by a train on the Delphi railroad crossing... proof she's in it up to her own neck in the conspiracy!(bet there's cameras in court at the sentencing?).
Things are not right about this whole case.
Of course nothing is right! 2 innocent girls were brutally slaughtered by this creep.
Quick! Run, Wendy, go tell the authorities your special sauce information!!!
@@mothmanifestnot him
@@puffyjo it's him. The jurors said it was him. Only the jurors saw all the evidence. The guy confessed 63 times. The juror got it right. He is guilty
They had too many people on the list of interest the fbi was looking at the old man .and what about the cat fish guy.and cop and so on.
Poor Kathy. The worst denial. A jury of 12 of your peers, knows it’s your husband. Open your eyes lady. It is, over.
Those girls solved their own murder and all these adults dropped the ball for years. Finally justice is served.
No, they didn't.
I disagree!!
@@johannawigg6921you don't know that. It's one thing to believe the investigation wasn't strong enough and that there were issues with the evidence, but you really have no idea if he did it or not because you weren't there.
It's not been served at all.
@@melistasyWe do know there is no evidence tying him to the murders, the men who confessed to information about the murder scene before the bodies were even found look more guilty to me. They even suggested their dna may be found on the bodies.
Too bad the jury weren’t allowed to visit the crime scene or see all the evidence. Too bad LE sent the FBI away.
Guilty
Too bad you guys love making up imaginary scenarios to forgive murderers
@@mistersinister2043 so you say he's lying about odinist guards or inmates?
@@van_ill Yeah no doubt this was an odinist human sacrifice ritual done by white supremacists and judge gull is a high ranking fully patched odinist member leading the cover up. There's also no doubt the jury were all odinist members too. 👍
@@van_ill I hate to tell you but he saw their patches and fully fabricated a story. So he knew about “Odonists did it” the whole time since he called the hotline and never said anything about it?? Is that your claim?
He is guilty.
Whew this is such a heartbreaking case. 😢
It's far from over
@@puffyjo Your right people will be whining for years. Richie will find a nice young man in prison & forget all about his wife.
Thank you for your complete and best coverage of this..I've been watching you all along..excellent reporters.
Oh it’s over. Richard Allen’s wife turned him in when she insisted he tell law enforcement he was “out on the trail that day “. Then in front of Law Enforcement she said “ you told me you were on the trail and you weren’t on the bridge “? Richard Allen got scared when the video came out and told her he was on the trail. Hoping she never knew he was on the bridge. She may have recognized him and his voice. The girls solved their own murder with that video. Otherwise Richard Allen would have never even told his wife he was out there that day. And he would have still been out living amongst us , and do it again. God Bless those girls 🙏
So glad you got it all figured out for us! Thanks!
@@garnetandgold07 Why are you being so nasty and sarcastic? This isn't the first comment of yours that's been like this. Maybe you don't agree with the verdict but there's no reason to be an a*s to other people discussing the case.
good point. well said.
@@garnetandgold07There a stable genius !
@@garnetandgold07 You are a rude person. She was giving her opinion. He's guilty as charged on all counts and deserves whatever sentence the judge passes down. A jury of 12 people who dedicated their lives to seeking the truth found him guilty. The easy verdict is to say not guilty, but they put in their due diligence and came to a thoughtful and just decision. The system worked and convicted a murder of children.
I'm stumped .. I cannot understand for the life of me, why so many questions on few others Alibi's this is a confusing case .I'm not really all for this verdict ..jury's have known to convict lots of innocent people .
Let me guess, you voted for KH? Right!
The police should get the wife too she knew he did it
did brad weber get away with murder ?
Somebody did i think.
No, because the time Weber left his work was so specific (2:02pm) because he has to clock out. The BG video was taken at 2:14pm, so it would not be possible for Weber to get home, park up and get on the bridge in that time.
Corruption and injustice
Today is the day!!!!! Richard Allen is guilty on all counts!!!
You obviously didn’t follow the case or you were hired by the Patty family to make stupid comments.
Stay strong Richard. there are plenty of people behind you.
And their names are Buck and T-Bone. Hope he doesn't drop the soap.
@@TransKidRevolution Best comment ever! 🤣
A$$ wipe
The wrong person was on trial due to the small communities' ties to cults and strange Odinist beliefs. Can’t change what a judge wanted to have happen. Defense was fighting a system with their hands tied behind their backs.
Stop with the Conspiracy theories lol.
@Kirra2122 I live in South Africa. We also have witchdoctors, Tokoloshe, and different ancestral beliefs. People practice strange rituals all the time.
If that precious little girl (Libby) could go to all the effort to film her murderer, the least we could do is put him behind bars. I think she died taking him off the streets so he couldn’t do this again. She died (and Abby, too) handing over the evidence to put him away. I hope he stays there and never hurts another child.
I agree 💯💙💜⚖️
But BG and RA do not look anything alike!!
@@Kim-C33 we don't know what bridge guy looks like. We do know what he was wearing and what day and time he was there,, Ra admitted to wearing the same clothes and being there at the same time. No other man was there.
I've never bought that for a second!!! Yeah, they were afraid for their safety, so they began recording while standing still when they could have made a run for it!!!??? What a crock of s*** !!!! "Oh, wow what brave girls to film their Murderer" !??? Are you people serious? OBVIOUSLY a staged video!!!!
@@theduhscripshunn5476 troll needs help here!!!
Thank god Gull will be off this case and this travesty is over RA will get out on appeal no worries I guess the families didnt want the true monsters who did this to their children they just wanted anybody to go down for it well they got their wish
Unfortunately, I don't think Gull will be off the case even if the verdict is overturned and a new trial ordered.
@Libbathegreat yes she will she is not an appellate judge after her unfair bias sentencing were done with her never have to see her about her again
Who were they talking to online right before the murders
Probably he and his wife were talking to Kk, but he is already doing time
Kelsi, catfishing as Anthony Shots..
@MyBeautifulHealth 🛑 Stop watching Ancient Aliens 👾
Kegan Kline aka Anthony Shots
They absolutely got this wrong! One person could not have done this. Reminds me of another case.
Also think more than 1 person.
No screams?????
Nothing adds up.
I wonder why Kathy said she thought Rick wasn't on the bridge that day... and I wonder when she realizes a cheating liar will always be a liar.
He probably lied to her that day.
That's a shame. Abby and Libby Did NOT get justice and Judge Gull has blood on her hands for her railroading Rick Allen 😡
How do you know it wasn't him
What an insane comment 😂
Sorry you are wrong. He is the killer. He’s a murderer and a pedophile. Justice has prevailed.
@@jennarobinson4922 🤣🤣🤣
@@AshleySmyth1212 Let’s say that the judge allowed the Odinistic sacrifice defense. RA would have to say that he is not an Odinist and the defense would have to offer someone who is, exposing all of them, which RA would never do. The defense didn’t have anyone else to offer credible doubt. So the defense didn’t prove beyond a shadow of doubt that RA was not the pedophile murderer.
INNOCENT
🤡
It is over, the jury has spoken
Until the appeal.
@@mariac.9727 😅 appeal won't happen those were two innocent children.
Jury isn't ALL that. Some people are innocent and sitting in jail. Js
It is not over. The people will demand that the injustice and corruption be thrown out. Appeal is already being filed and has most of the country behind it. The jury can go to hell. It wasn't provided the truth.
@@Annie497-f5xAbout 2-4% of appeals succeed. Live with it girl 😜
Actually it is over, Kathy. I feel bad to her - to a degree - but the minute she realized that he was on the bridge (AFTER HE LIED TO HER ABOUT IT)… she should have accepted the truth. She knows good and well that it was him in that video. Then he tried - OVER AND OVER - to confess to her and she repeatedly hung up on him and told him to stop. Her being in denial does not make him any less guilty, and I find it extremely disgusting that she’d choose today to speak about it “not being over”.
It's not over. Kathy is right. There will be an appeal. Perhaps then we will hear all the evidence and not just the select pieces that Gull allowed. We all want justice for Abby and Libby of course, but we need to know that the right man has been convicted for this terrible crime.
I disagree. There’s not one shred of DNA. There’s so much reasonable doubt it is actually insane. They will find the culprit one day. This is so sad. And Richard Allen has been railroaded for years. He was kept in isolation for years and had periods of pure inanity. That alone is torture.
She's more upset about losing because it embarrasses her in her home town. She has a stain on her and she can't handle it. The women has a lot of inner work to do. I doubt a therapist could even help her. She has a redneck mentality.
She knew! Now she gotta deal with it went all those years knowing he killed those kids she sick too
So many armchair detectives these days. The Jury were there for the whole trial and heard all the evidence not just bits and pieces like us.
Exactly! 👍
true- but he was not there when someone plugged earphones into libbys phone and later unplugged them?
@shannonm.4087 the phone got wet..it malfunctioned. Nothing more. He's guilty.
So many simps that gobble up legacy media as fact 🤡
@marymargaret3142 - How did it get wet after tge girls had already crossed the creek? How then did it supposedly dry itself out while laying on the ground? The headphone code was written in the logs. That required manual manipulation.
Great job WTHR
Thank you all for your coverage! I hope Abby and Libby’s family have peace from the verdict today although I’m sure there is never complete closure my heart goes out to them!
I think they would want the actual killers to be held accountable.
@@sarahwales6276the killer was held accountable
@sarahwales6276 cope harder, mam. RA is guilty and was found guilty!
@melistasy Whatever you need to tell yourself, no one cares what you believe.
@aimeerothwell3849 Cognitive dissonance, it makes you feel better to believe that rather than the fact your LE and Courts are corrupt.
How will the jury members feel when they find out about all the information that was kept from them?
Dumb comment. Use your brain. It was him. All the “evidence” kept from him wasn’t evidence at all. It was nonsense conspiracy theories. There’s a reason it wasn’t allowed in court. Because it was ridiculous nonsense
It's called Rules of Evidence and they were instructed about that.
They'll be fine.
You don't know more than the jurors do; you weren't even there.
😅 it's over bruh it's a done deal.
@@lr8607thank you!!! So many crazies acting like they were there and know it all.
Yea, the jurors should speak to Odin!!!
🙄
Gag order still in place? Sounds like an oversight to me. And I am sure R Allen's family will have something to say about it, too.
No respect for this judge, prosecutors, LE, or jury. Shame on them all.
Shame on you
It’s over alright. They got it right. His wife was in denial as you’d expect. He tried to tell her over and over. She told him to stop. He did it.
No one wants to believe their loved one is a murderer. Of course his family is devastated. I agree with the verdict.
This case wasn't managed well. There're good causes for appeals, that'll come forth with time.
I do not agree😢😢😢
@@ArmenianBishopLike what?
Cause it's not him period
I think his wife is a lot smarter and more mentally stable than you are. You are part of the mob rule brigade. Hey! I thought IQ of 100 was average in the developed world.🤔
😉
Why still a gag order?
Gull.
It is still in place until the sentencing.
Same reason why they refused to release the Probable Cause Affidavit. It’s a weak case with very little evidence and they wish to keep a lid on it.
Well you know because in case anything slips out just like before
They don’t want anyone asking questions
WHAT A STITCH UP,,
What a relief. Guilty on all four counts. Justice was served 💜💙
@@FignewtonjohnNot by a long chalk. Thankfully he can appeal the decision.
@mizteek5024 he can appeal but it will be denied.
Justice finally done for Abby & Libby💙💜 May their families have some measure of peace!
No justice was done. It was a travesty. There will be an appeal. This judge needs to be disbarred.
💜🩵💜🩵
A show trial to makes officials look good. So sad they simply added another evil to the situation.
Nobody can point out Richard Allen in the courtroom but find him guilty on questionable confessions? What a joke
He DOES NOT LOOK THE SAME, he was starving himself. He looks exactly as bridge guy from his face book pictures
@@bambinaforever1402 Exactly. The witnesses all said they saw BG! PPl just have to look at RA in 2017
The people that saw him back in 2017, already said he matches bridge guy.
61 confessions. Even IF some of them were questionable...
If I was innocent I wouldn’t confess 60 times
His wife is so deep into her denial..
she knows full well, it's the defence attorneys and the conspiracy guys on youtube that convinced her he'd walk today
She will eventually find another husband give it time
I actually think she knows. I dont see her as a victim anymore I see her as complicit. Either that or she needs some serious mental help even more than Rick. She was an enabler.
@@beez991It's amazing that so many excuse her attempt at shutting down his confession. Sick ....
Allen County failed on so many levels.
The state failed. It should be ashamed of itself.
Guilty! He told you all himself. And if his wife believed in him so much why was she not on the stand saying thats not his voice? Sorry but not sorry a wife knows her husbands walk talk look. Look at photos of him back then looks like bridge guy. Dude didnt act crazy until he k ew he was in trouble!
Who was in the stand saying it was his voice???
@jennykosky You really don’t know much about anything. You have some - any - reputable sources for your “information”?
@@dawnclabaugh3598She uses common sense unlike yourself 😂
I don't believe that was his voice sounded more like carter
Fll guy
Not at all proven beyond a reasonable doubt
Reasonable doubt, because crazy conspiracies aren't reasonable. Look up definition of reasonable doubt. (In law, not on urban dictionary lol)
@@beachfairy There's nothing "conspiratorial" about someone confessing to two siblings and asking a trooper if he'd be in trouble if he spat on one of the girls. You don't have to buy into the Odinism to see this is more than a one-man job and that there were much more promising suspects that LE dismissed with no satisfactory explanation.
@@beachfairythere's nothing on this man nothing.
@@LibbathegreatElvis would still be under the bridge trying to figure his way out 😮
@@juniorjohnson5961 By his own account, he did not act alone
A travesty of justice of the worst kind!!!
Here is a kleenex.
This woman is an enabler and is sick to stay married to this murderer. She damn well knows he is guilty of heinous killings but sat there in court and refused to believe what was right in front of her face.
This will be overturned on appeal once it's nolonger judge Gulls jurisdiction the shady disgusting underhanded behavior left plenty reasonable doubt.
I agree!!!!!!! Justice has not been served for Abby or Libby!!!
How does the community reconcile another man confessed to this crime to his sister?
Sure it's crazy isn't it.. Richard allen's confessions mattered , but this guys dont?
You realize many highly publicized cases have people come forward with false confessions. The man you are speaking of lived over two hours away, mentally challenged with the mind of a seven year old, and did not own a vehicle. Let alone his cell phone activity that day shown he did not leave the area.
@EgyptianDarling But he had close friends.. His comment alone needed to be looked at further... Just another couple of interviews that were lost during that first 70 days. Imagine how important the first 70 days' worth of evidence is.
@@unapologeticallyauthentic That's the defense council's place to present any evidence they can to the jury which casts doubt on the prosecution's theory. That's the way the system works.
We can only assume a jury of Richard Allens' peers did not find the defense's case compelling- and they heard much more than any of us did,
Delphi dosent care as long as they have someone/ anyone for this crime. I'm shocked that a jury can find someone guilty when there is so much reasonable doubt. I do not believe for one minute this crime was committed by one person.
Today Lady Justice is crying. People need to look deeper at this case. It's a rabbit hole with many ugly twists and turns.
Bull
you are speculating.
the jury made their decision based on the facts of the case, as well as the numerous unprovoked confessions.
why can't you just believe he's guilty?
he seems to believe he is.....
@@HandsomeKentShit !
Cope !
Justice was absolutely served.
Yall just gonna give Elvis Fields and Brad Holder free passes then. Brad Holders son..Logan, dated Abby. BH is a ... well, BH. And nm Greg Ferency (FBI) was ambushed and unalived after he started digging into this case... by a CO! Idk if RA is guilty or not... he very well may be, but he aure as chit didnt act alone!
Devastated
😂😂😂 She needs to be in jail! Her husband confessed to her numerous times and her only reaction was to try and save his ass! She's as efed up as he is! I guarantee she knew more!
Disgusting miscarriage of justice. Absolutely foul.
No miscarriage of justice. Bozo
I agree, 'beyond reasonable doubt' I am still in heavy doubt.. Poor weak jury
Same
@@Donkeybone10Are you always so delightful?
@unapologeticallyauthentic he believes what ever the TV tells him too... A donkey by Name and Brain
Not enough evidence for guilty verdict.
Plenty of evidence. Most provided by him
@mich8292 by him do you mean RA in psychosis?
Not even close. I'll be eager to see what the jury's reaction will be when they find out all the things they weren't told. Absolute travesty but I don't blame them for having incomplete information.
@@lunablue499 he only had moments of psychosis his confession was truthful
And reliable .
RA is BG = ( Picture ) + ( bullet) + ( being on the bridge, according to him) + (having the same clothes, by him) + ( having every phone he owned, except the one used at the time of the crime) + (confessing 61 times) + (same BG voice) = RA is BG
Sad
Poor thing she really doesn’t believe he did it. That concerns me. It’s obvious he did it.
So for everyone that thinks he's innocent, can we just ask Richard who did it? He was there according to his testimony. When Richard Allen told police, first interview, that he was there between 12.00 and 1:30 p.m. he's putting himself outside of the girls time frame. Then on the second interview he says that he was there between 1:30 and 3:30 because of needing to deal with the camera filming his vehicle and eye witnesses seeing him. He tells them that he was wearing what bridge guy was wearing but that he is not the image on the girls' cell phone. He tells them that he was sitting on the bridge, looking at fish, so he puts himself there, in the time frame that the girls would be there, but he denies seeing the girls or the bridge guy. At the scene of the crime at the time of the crime. That's not unreasonable.
Why is the gag order in place now
Because the State and Gull are corrupt as hell
Lady, your husband did it. It IS over.
NO HE DID NOT
@@puffyjo he most certainly DID
@@Ncarolina1974 Were you there? Or are you covering for family who were? Get a brain.
You clearly don't know the half of it....just like the jury....
There is certainly no credible truth that he did do it. Just corrupted narrative by the prosecution and judge.
He is Toast. His wife is in denial
No no no and NO
He'll find a nice man in prison & forget all about Kathy.
Doug I wanna hear the whole story too.
Richard Allen is guilty. He was diagnosed as being Psychotic, he confessed 61 times and the Mountain of evidence against him is overwhleming. Shame on anyone casting doubt. Abby and Libby's family and that entire community have suffered enough from Richard Allen's heinous snd senseless acts. Who knows what else his wife allowed him to get away with over the years. You're right it's not over because now it's time to look into you lady.
love this comment!
So true.
Mountain of evidence??😂😂😂😂
@@lunablue499I know right. And the real killers (plural) are still out there.
@@linda-louiseanthony1979 please stop.
The jury got it WRONG! Justice has not been served for Libby and Abby!!
Bull. RA is BG. LIfe, no parole.
Take your meds.
@@JohnSmith-qt2ii oh how original 🙄