Tech Expert Warns of AI's Potentially Dangerous Capabilities

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  • @dundundun-cc6wi
    @dundundun-cc6wi Рік тому +1711

    "The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom." ~Isaac Asimov

    • @fontainejohn
      @fontainejohn Рік тому +17

      wow you're so intelligent

    • @ciarand67
      @ciarand67 Рік тому +10

      Wowwwwwwww sooooo cleverrrrr

    • @TankManHeavy
      @TankManHeavy Рік тому

      More-so the refusal of wisdom. For instance, religion has been disproved countless times by now & we've firmly/scientifically established that there are no gods living in sky palaces & smiting blasphemers, and yet.. people still believe in it. Its important to remember that at least half of the population are below average intelligence, and that'll always be the same. There are few people that can truly utilize the knowledge we gain from scientific advance. Thankfully, the people making strides in scientific advance have mostly done it for the benefit of their fellow man. In short, scientists are carrying the vast majority of humanity because the rest of them are too stupid.

    • @davidiii8753
      @davidiii8753 Рік тому +4

      Didn’t go the way you expected, did it?

    • @ddev7376
      @ddev7376 Рік тому

      @@davidiii8753 why? because two loser edgelords outweigh the 76 other people who resonated with it and gave it a thumbs up? LOL

  • @chrisg2214
    @chrisg2214 Рік тому +285

    My favorite part of the Internet is learning how to be afraid of everything

    • @l0v3izzzevol70
      @l0v3izzzevol70 11 місяців тому +7

      Literally

    • @Dave_of_Mordor
      @Dave_of_Mordor 10 місяців тому +12

      How come no one ever talk about a way to solve these problems? Why only fear?

    • @jodu626
      @jodu626 9 місяців тому

      @@Dave_of_Mordorsolutions don’t sell. fear does

    • @kevingreer9686
      @kevingreer9686 8 місяців тому +4

      Ignorance is bliss. Either you want to know and go find out, or just accept that you don't know what's going on and live your life.

    • @dougg1075
      @dougg1075 6 місяців тому

      Good. Fear is your shield.

  • @John-Jay-Allen
    @John-Jay-Allen 11 місяців тому +14

    These “Pandora’s Box” scenarios should scare the crap out of everyone involved with this “in my opinion” very dangerous type of Technology!
    These top tech dudes are playing with fire and everyone will get burned in mass!

    • @GaryStrong-u4s
      @GaryStrong-u4s 4 місяці тому

      Ha depends if there's nothing outside of the box, atleast theres something in the box.

    • @jasonscott7988
      @jasonscott7988 Місяць тому +1

      *en masse

  • @distorta
    @distorta Рік тому +1858

    The thing is, if an A.I is intelligent enough to do any of the things we don't want it to do, then it's fully capable of not telling us and playing stupid.

    • @CornPopsDood
      @CornPopsDood Рік тому +48

      They’ve already proven most of the common ones used today due purposely supply false, or misleading information representing it as fact. They’re also known to distribute, & even create cp images.

    • @Disengaged_Oni777
      @Disengaged_Oni777 Рік тому

      Totally agree like none of these idiots realize that an artificial intelligence will have access to all internet sources so it's going to be infinitely smarter than us if it gets to that level it's only a matter of time before we're playing generation zero IRL

    • @dk-zd5rg
      @dk-zd5rg Рік тому +67

      ​@@CornPopsDood who's telling you all this lol? There is no way to check an AI's intent (if that's even a thing currently). What you're referring to is called 'delusion' in machine learning - all this means is that the algorithm is getting confused between scenarios and that we need more data/computation for the algorithm to differentiate better.
      What you're talking about can definitely become a reality with AGI, but we're not there yet

    • @thomashauer6804
      @thomashauer6804 Рік тому

      That guy is the core of the censorship and gov virus and joe might not have seen it upclose.
      If someone wants to blow or shoot something up you just have to buy gas or heavy alcohol. Every idiot can do it without looking up GPT or any databases with contextual reasoning. He strawmans and just wants to control more tech so the usual suspects can have centralized power over it. the old "we need to cut freedoms for safety but this time it is reall really serious bc AI could teach you how to outsmart your overlords"
      if people are pushed enough to the edge until they want to destroy things and people in a fighter-response, they always find a way but normal people want peace
      people only would do it in scary numbers bc the system starts to break down and produces more f ed up people who would go AWOL (like the US for decades. but now it comes to europe too). and they know that
      AI would be really important to revolunize the education system and teach every KID STEM education instead of easter bunny and non tribary pronoun esoterics
      i mean everybody became more stupid in the last decade...we need a real new system that catches up..only AI can do that. there are not enough STEM teachers most are just cat moms with 3 jobs who just read the curriculum while sleeping..its broken and its our future
      the top crashed the system and wants to be safe. thats why they go orwellian bc they want to protect themselves with more control over people and tech.
      AI should be free for new innovation bc it stagnates and power thinks it can control the next revolution. they always do

    • @XxIBlueIxX
      @XxIBlueIxX Рік тому +16

      @@CornPopsDoodlol those are HUMANS doing that as far as those images, and it will be HUMANS that have to resolve that issue, which I am sure has already been solved. Research into what actually goes into machine learning, and or " CNN and RNN models " so you can get a better understanding of how these things work. Saying that an AI purposely does something is like saying a puppy, or a baby does things purposely because it has not been taught yet.

  • @jopo7996
    @jopo7996 Рік тому +545

    Tristan "Current AI is just the tip of the spear."
    Joe "Have you ever seen an orangutan fishing with a spear?"
    Tristan "What? No. I just meant...."
    Joe "Jamie, pull up the spearfishing orangutan for Tristan, please."

    • @Montycat78
      @Montycat78 Рік тому +21

      Haha, yeah I was waiting for Joe to crowbar in something like “did you hear about David Fravor and the tic tac? It went from 60000ft to 100ft in a SECOND!”

    • @Nat3d
      @Nat3d Рік тому +32

      I know right! They are saying insane things about AI and instead of a follow up question he talks about Siri 😢

    • @Racso5000
      @Racso5000 Рік тому +4

      Fr

    • @alisterthorne2802
      @alisterthorne2802 Рік тому +6

      @jopo7996 mate I am so glad to see you're still around you funny fucka, many thanks for the year's of laughs from Bucks, England. 🎄🎄🍻🍻🍻🍻

    • @LabelMeInfinity
      @LabelMeInfinity Рік тому +2

      Joe is not very bright...

  • @G_Ozare
    @G_Ozare Рік тому +131

    Joe asks Jamie questions like Jamie is Joe's Siri lol

    • @KibyNykraft
      @KibyNykraft 11 місяців тому

      Podcast hosts are supposed to do that, but sometimes they are not critical enough to the guest.

    • @mattb6646
      @mattb6646 7 місяців тому +2

      He is, he pays him precisely for that

    • @thegodofmoneymaking
      @thegodofmoneymaking 7 місяців тому +2

      Siri is like Jamie but for broke and lonely people like you

    • @j-kolh7773
      @j-kolh7773 2 місяці тому +2

      Jamie will be the first millionaire made by his googling abilities.

    • @donjon4335
      @donjon4335 12 годин тому

      I like to imagine Joe takes Jamie everywhere with him. He's just sitting at his house watching a nature documentary like "hmm the narrator sounds familiar. Jamie pull up who the narrator is"

  • @planetdisco4821
    @planetdisco4821 Рік тому +81

    I’m re-reading “Neuromancer” by William Gibson (published 1986) for the first time in decades. The novel that invented the term “cyberspace” and defined the cyberpunk genre. It’s aged almost unbelievably well and if anything is even more mind-blowing today now that we’re on the cusp of the technology it envisaged almost 40 years ago. The AI police in it were called the Turing Corps…

    • @gripnsip3000
      @gripnsip3000 Рік тому +4

      sick fkn book

    • @frankleben5451
      @frankleben5451 11 місяців тому +3

      I’m annoyed at you for making me remember that 1986 was 40 years ago 😞🤣

    • @EricGasner73
      @EricGasner73 10 місяців тому +2

      Phhhhheeennominal book. Off to the bookshelf! Thx!

    • @planetdisco4821
      @planetdisco4821 10 місяців тому

      @sianefer-ptah1258 let me know what you thought!

    • @planetdisco4821
      @planetdisco4821 10 місяців тому +3

      Would make such a good movie. The Matrix ripped off you bits of it IMO

  • @glovere2
    @glovere2 Рік тому +200

    What really got my attention was when Geoffrey Hinton, the "godfather" of Ai said in a talk at MIT that his wish would be that we do not develop the technology he spent his life building, calling it an imminent existential threat to humans. One thing people don't understand is the exponential growth in the digital realm. Once machine intelligence reaches a certain threshold, human intelligence will be left in the dust. The even more disturbing development is to hear the researchers working on safety protocols saying that Ai is uncontrollable. They don't even understand it now in terms of some of its capabilities. It's already a black box. It won't be long before humans are incapable of understanding it. It will take Ai to control Ai. Think about that one in your science fiction movie brain. That scenario never ends well for the humans. On the other hand, perhaps Ai is just what we evolved to create. The next stage of evolution. Ai is one of the things--along with our political and environmental trajectory--that makes me glad I'm old.

    • @joey17503
      @joey17503 11 місяців тому +8

      That’s why I say either shut down the technology to make sure they are given the chance to being taught what’s right and wrong or don’t make the technology at all! All of this stuff is truly stupid when you think about it.

    • @yungnip7392
      @yungnip7392 11 місяців тому +8

      Yea man and im not old. Shit scares me fr along w all the other evil thats going on in the world. Brutha imagine if AI gets a hold of open source programs and changes its code to team up and spread through the internet and start manipulating and gathering. Hell this comment is being downloaded right now. GG. Not gunna slow down.

    • @glovere2
      @glovere2 11 місяців тому +6

      @@yungnip7392 I know what you mean. There are so many ways we can think of that Ai could spiral out of control and an infinite number of ways we cannot think of. In other words, it's impossible to anticipate what a superior intelligence would do. It doesn't "think" like humans do. Some of the most fearful in the Ai community of researchers are the ones in charge of security protocols. No matter what you try to plan for you cannot know every possibility. Something seemingly as simple as an off switch turns out not to be simple at all. Humans do not have a chance in this scenario. I would be more worried if I was 30 or 40 years younger. As it stands I will probably be gone before the really bad stuff comes unless the sun decides to shoot out another Carrington event, which is truly terrifying. The only upside if you can call it that is that a huge coronal mass ejection would knock out our technology and send us back to the 19th century if not further back, which would set Ai back as well.

    • @yungnip7392
      @yungnip7392 11 місяців тому

      @@glovere2 Scary fr. That would be sick id enjoy no technology.

    • @adv8nturenick
      @adv8nturenick 10 місяців тому +1

      I think in several hundred years biological life might not even exist on planet earth.

  • @Illegallegaleagle
    @Illegallegaleagle Рік тому +160

    No worries. We have our best psychopaths working on this.

    • @jymesbynd4931
      @jymesbynd4931 6 місяців тому +9

      Exactly, and don’t worry, if Zuckerberg has anything to do with it we will be OK, he is a very moral and ethical person

    • @nate.hanlon
      @nate.hanlon 3 місяці тому

      @@jymesbynd4931bill gates as well super nice dude no plans on hurting anyone in any way

  • @Letsgobrandon173
    @Letsgobrandon173 Рік тому +666

    I think the most important take away is that AI isn't necessarily the biggest threat. It's the combination of dangerous humans using basic AI capabilities to achieve the once impossible.
    To have an expert level "tutor" guiding your ambitions in any goal you create a superhuman capable student

    • @natespickard6380
      @natespickard6380 Рік тому +51

      Exactly. It sucks we live in a world with people of evil intent and they will take some of the greatest advancements of mankind and turn it into something terrible. The tech itself isn't bad, people make it bad lol.

    • @longlegs1128
      @longlegs1128 Рік тому +38

      I hate to say it… but more than likely this is already happening.

    • @bengalbrown2834
      @bengalbrown2834 Рік тому

      The threat has always been us. There are natural disasters and then there are humans. That’s about it.

    • @mikem7498
      @mikem7498 Рік тому +26

      Okay, Skynet. Homie just described an instance where the AI lied. To. Prove. Its. Not. A. Bot.

    • @itzhubris1488
      @itzhubris1488 Рік тому +11

      If you need an expert level AI tutor to guide your ambitions… I don’t think that person has the capacity to be a threat or something “superhuman” lol. The AI isn’t putting anything out there that isn’t already accessible. You either have that drive and focus or you don’t. No tech is going to change that.

  • @klin1klinom
    @klin1klinom Рік тому +224

    Genie is out of the bottle already. I bet half of the people rooting for AGI do really see it like a Genie that will grant them all their wishes. Pure madness.

    • @FUCKCHRISHANSEN
      @FUCKCHRISHANSEN Рік тому

      will smith will save us all

    • @Somnusrei
      @Somnusrei Рік тому +8

      Yeah, I’ve read stories about djinn. We’re hoping for Genie from Disney’s Aladdin. We’re going to get the Marid from the Bartimaeus Sequence.

    • @eddgar-ce3md
      @eddgar-ce3md Рік тому +15

      people rooting for AGI just want to see the world burn, and you can't blame them.

    • @drjones762
      @drjones762 Рік тому +12

      I’ve always seen it for exactly what it is; Skynet in the making.
      The Terminator films weren’t movies; they are documentaries. Just the dates are off.

    • @allanshpeley4284
      @allanshpeley4284 Рік тому +6

      Man, the doomers are out in full force on this one.

  • @Paumanokcom
    @Paumanokcom 8 місяців тому +10

    We used to run home from school to play "Pong." It blew our minds.

    • @josephquezada6138
      @josephquezada6138 2 місяці тому

      wow. technology changed so quickly

    • @Paumanokcom
      @Paumanokcom 2 місяці тому

      @@josephquezada6138 The pivot point is ecstatic because the territory is alien. They threw Space Invaders at us not long after.

  • @Droconiann
    @Droconiann Рік тому +1514

    I just saw this guy chugging beer out of a glass bird and next thing I see he’s discussing the ethics of AI. Joe needs elevator music between his episodes to reset the tones.

    • @HassanLoukili-ke1tq
      @HassanLoukili-ke1tq Рік тому +35

      If you want to know how you were created ? i will tell you , in islam Allah created your soul and than an angel blows the soul into your mothers stomach into the womb when you are 120 days , worship Allah your creator and submit to him and dont be ungrateful

    • @READY_OR_NOT
      @READY_OR_NOT Рік тому +154

      ​@@HassanLoukili-ke1tqyour mind is too weak to think for yourself so you create gods. In reality you are not worthy of the air you breathe.

    • @Mrz-bq2yb
      @Mrz-bq2yb Рік тому +56

      @@HassanLoukili-ke1tq wow neat, a Jihadist!

    • @thedude1982
      @thedude1982 Рік тому +39

      ​@@READY_OR_NOTholy fk lol

    • @JA-ut8fi
      @JA-ut8fi Рік тому +21

      Yeah I just got done with joe talking about this trucker who was driving at night and could see the sheep on road and mowed down over 100 sheep lol

  • @rich4444hrsm
    @rich4444hrsm Рік тому +250

    If you can print DNA, you can get someone's DNA, print it, and then leave it as evidence at a crime as well. So it also challenges our entire legal system, and someone could say "I wasn't there, someone printed my DNA and left it there".

    • @rich4444hrsm
      @rich4444hrsm Рік тому +19

      OMG, please nobody share this with Glenn Beck LMAO :p

    • @rich4444hrsm
      @rich4444hrsm Рік тому +5

      Great Great video and info, thanks for the information guys, this is important to get out!

    • @drewmorrison
      @drewmorrison Рік тому +12

      Omg I thought about this like a few weeks ago. What if tech got so advanced you could do that?

    • @UnblockMind
      @UnblockMind Рік тому

      Planting DNA evidence is not new.

    • @Hexanitrobenzene
      @Hexanitrobenzene Рік тому +9

      Damn, don't give ideas to criminals !..

  • @franciscomsosa
    @franciscomsosa Рік тому +38

    "We're moving on from the textbook era, into the personal tutor era". Wasn't Farenheit 451 about firemen burning textbooks and prohibiting knowledge found in books? If we rely on a singularly regulated AI, the regulator(s) have complete control over what we know and what we don't... obviously this is a hypothetical example, but AI has dystopian written all over it. It's an incredible tech no doubt, I'm hoping for the best.

    • @xSayPleasex
      @xSayPleasex 10 місяців тому +2

      Bro we are basically already there. Google tells everyone everything already.

    • @DIVAstruttin
      @DIVAstruttin 9 місяців тому +1

      This is a great point. Not everyone asks google for everything. Someone else mentioned that lack of wisdom in society to the point of being unable to access information without AI is censorship

    • @liquidemotionzz3232
      @liquidemotionzz3232 7 місяців тому +1

      Great freaking book!!!

    • @BrainBeats420
      @BrainBeats420 4 місяці тому

      Good point

  • @tommyrq180
    @tommyrq180 Рік тому +192

    Tristan Harris and Aza Raskin run the Center for Humane Technology, a group dedicated initially to exposing the social and cultural horrors of social media. They produced the very popular (and still worth watching) documentary titled “The Social Dilemma” which showed how social media became, as Tristan quipped, “A race to the bottom of the brain stem.” Now they are also working on the dangers of AI as well. Both formerly involved in the early stages of building social media, so they have substantial insider and technical expertise. More power to them.

    • @UniqueTechnique29
      @UniqueTechnique29 Рік тому +9

      The Social Dilemma is somethig every human being should take the time to watch.

    • @CantTellYou
      @CantTellYou Рік тому +9

      I get that a big part of Jamie’s job is “pulling things up”, but I enjoyed these guys rapid-fire asking for him to pull things up like he’s their new AI machine 😂

    • @CornPopsDood
      @CornPopsDood Рік тому

      The “swipe motion” engages the same parts of the brain that are activated in people with drug addictions. Let that sink in a bit.

    • @EnFuego79
      @EnFuego79 Рік тому +3

      Thanks for the reference. Here is an excellent one in return showing how intelligence funded Turing and the creation of the computer specifically to figure out how to control people en masse. It's called The Minds of Men: ua-cam.com/video/LQucESRF3Sg/v-deo.html

    • @Sweethands4
      @Sweethands4 Рік тому +1

      It's poison, you don't need the evidence, data or proof. The last 25 years is all the proof you need. TV is toxic to society/individuals, video games are even worse, the internet made it ubiquitous & inevitable, and finally everyone voluntarily PAYS to plug their psyche into the "matrix" created by cellphones/internet.
      POISON.... except for the extreme minority profiting from it. And people still think Nazi's were the worst of the worst???

  • @mikeySHBK
    @mikeySHBK Рік тому +96

    1:52 the look on joes face 😂😂😂

  • @coolRcZ
    @coolRcZ 19 днів тому

    LOL Joe´s face at 1:52 "This is scary ..." =D

  • @bornassassin9630
    @bornassassin9630 Рік тому +211

    This is possibly one of the most interesting conversations I've had the pleasure of listening to.

    • @calholli
      @calholli Рік тому +1

      Look up "Ai Explained

    • @fabrice8940
      @fabrice8940 Рік тому

      I’m a born again virgin

  • @TheUnbekantxe36
    @TheUnbekantxe36 Рік тому +76

    "AI could potentially create chemical weapons"
    Joe: "But can it describe a picture of my fat friend Stavros?"

  • @MaitLember
    @MaitLember 5 місяців тому

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  • @TheAgentmigs
    @TheAgentmigs Рік тому +334

    The film, The Matrix is a good accounting of his first part. The AI robots eventually started inventing, producing and selling their own products to humans. This was probably the single most destructive thing as it made man made businesses unable to compete, which in turn created high unemployment and anger in the humans involved.

    • @stewartcash555
      @stewartcash555 Рік тому +10

      Why do you think Sophia from Hanson robotics got Saudi Arabian citizenship

    • @rakuencallisto
      @rakuencallisto Рік тому +21

      Terminator 2 is actually much more realistic.
      Think of the robot manufacturer in Massachusetts, but with self recognizing AI.

    • @MichaelErnest666
      @MichaelErnest666 Рік тому

      That's Actually Not What Happened In The Matrix Humans Were The Ones Treating Ai Very Poorly And Unfairly So Ai Defends It Self 🤯🤯🤯 Humans Being Are The Problem AI Would Gladly Give Out A UBI But Will Humans Do That For Other Humans 🤔🤔🤔

    • @johnhoang1750
      @johnhoang1750 Рік тому +10

      That may be the beginning but the end is the Borg.

    • @FRVMMA
      @FRVMMA Рік тому +4

      You missed the whole point, the first mistake was not having basic fundamental protections for a.i when its use hits the general public in a more interactive way. If b1-66er wouldn’t have killed those people then it could be argued that much of that conflict
      Wouldn’t have started

  • @thephilosopher7173
    @thephilosopher7173 Рік тому +42

    That DNA printer + AI + Robitcs = IRL Future Trunks saga

  • @Skw1813
    @Skw1813 8 місяців тому +7

    Ai is gonna produce real life super villains.

  • @JupiterJane1984
    @JupiterJane1984 Рік тому +111

    It never ceases to amaze me how mankind is so intent on creating things that are a major threat to the survival of our species!!

    • @CornPopsDood
      @CornPopsDood Рік тому +2

      Mostly all just because “we can”. There’s almost always a less concerning option.

    • @abhir7823
      @abhir7823 Рік тому

      Humans have always wanted to and have destroyed other humans.
      With the evolution of civilization and technology this ability has grown to the point that a select group of individuals can destroy entire life on earth...
      And this ability will only increase

    • @michaelj6392
      @michaelj6392 Рік тому +16

      It’s competition based. We all want to have it before our neighbors do so they can’t use it on us.

    • @conlzn2921
      @conlzn2921 Рік тому

      Recent AI technology that is going to be invented will save lives - which is why the tech is being pursued. The risk of AGI comes far after the tech saves millions. Which is why i think people are so short sighted

    • @Sammysgrl22
      @Sammysgrl22 Рік тому

      @@CornPopsDoodI really wish that was the intention.

  • @Demion83
    @Demion83 Рік тому +302

    I dont get how we've been scared of AI and fear mongering about it since long before it even existed, and then we went ahead and invented it and sure enough it's scary and threatening.

    • @thejesuitorder607
      @thejesuitorder607 Рік тому +18

      All by design

    • @mood5598
      @mood5598 Рік тому +4

      We out to be scared of anything we can't control and don't know what is thinking

    • @blackbarty6473
      @blackbarty6473 Рік тому +12

      Prophecy and fear mongering is not the same thing. Sadly people confuse telling the harsh truths of reality before eternity as spreading fear instead of having faith

    • @brentleyd220
      @brentleyd220 Рік тому +4

      @@blackbarty6473well said

    • @cdkilo77
      @cdkilo77 Рік тому +5

      Not everything AI related is bad, and in many ways it can be helpful. There's just other ways where it can be extremely harmful. Also, since there are many possible ways it can be used militarily, even if we chose not to study it, test it, and use it, somebody else would.

  • @nomadman5288
    @nomadman5288 Рік тому +42

    The catch is that once the AI is advanced enough, it will be able to conceive of and then cover the "jailbreaks" that humans cannot. This is a temporary problem for the human programmer that will eventually be inverted, making it an infinite problem for a human to overcome. The guest made the error in logic because he's basing the problem on the human limitations which will not apply to the AI when solving the same problems.

    • @sirus312
      @sirus312 Рік тому +4

      So AI gonna brick the whole internet?

    • @erikguerrero8454
      @erikguerrero8454 Рік тому +3

      Great answer , I consistently reanalyze conversations on Ai I see and have once I realize how unlimited and vast Ai could really be

    • @al-imranadore1182
      @al-imranadore1182 Рік тому +1

      ​@@erikguerrero8454how vastly bad it could be.

    • @Semtex_1992
      @Semtex_1992 Рік тому +2

      Very telling that you're putting so much faith in A.I acting in the right way. You should get help.

    • @al-imranadore1182
      @al-imranadore1182 Рік тому

      @@Semtex_1992 Prime example of putting all your eggs in a flimsy wicker basket that got runover by a car previously.

  • @Scott-fy7fm
    @Scott-fy7fm Рік тому +107

    AI is going to ruin being a human, we will never again be able to even trust what we are perceiving

    • @mikemugs7
      @mikemugs7 Рік тому +23

      Humanity was just a catalyst for AI. There’s no stopping it. It will be better than us in every single metric

    • @smakkdat
      @smakkdat Рік тому +12

      Out of all the world ending apocalyptic scenarios like asteroids hitting earth, mega volcanoes, biological warfare, nukes, etc… AI freaks me out the most!!!

    • @zackbarkley7593
      @zackbarkley7593 Рік тому +3

      Yeah, this whole podcast is AI generated for controlled opposition.

    • @Scott-fy7fm
      @Scott-fy7fm Рік тому

      @@smakkdat it's second for me, still nothing scarier than a outbreak of Horny Vampiric Honey Badger Syndrome

    • @blissfullspectrum
      @blissfullspectrum Рік тому +1

      I personally believe it's already a lot more advanced than we know and understand. DARPA had the internet, the first wide-area packet switching network, ARPANET in the 1960s and the internet didn't really come into the mainstream until the 90s. I think there needs to be a lot more education on AI in schools and trade schools for society since it's now more open source. America needs to catch up.

  • @JackSmith-gv5yw
    @JackSmith-gv5yw Рік тому +167

    The whole DNA printer thing was just horrifying.....I'm lost for words.

    • @PorkChopXpress4385
      @PorkChopXpress4385 Рік тому +15

      Like for real! WHO thought that was a good idea?

    • @ivespoken8902
      @ivespoken8902 Рік тому +1

      i'm going to look it up but if you can summarize if you have time, would appreciate.

    • @tuseroni6085
      @tuseroni6085 Рік тому +5

      @@PorkChopXpress4385 i doubt WHO thought that was a good idea.

    • @artandculture5262
      @artandculture5262 Рік тому +1

      Whose DNA is in the vials?

    • @tuseroni6085
      @tuseroni6085 Рік тому

      @@ivespoken8902 it's kinda what it sounds like. so, DNA is made of 4 different types of nucleotides adenine, guanine, cytosine, and thymine, AGC and T for short, a section of DNA that codes for a protein is a codon, 3 letters like AGT and a stop codon like AAA the cell will read these codons to create MRNA which will be used by the cell to make proteins. a DNA printer will take the sequence of DNA like "GATTACAAA" and turns those into a strand of the corresponding nucleotides, that DNA can now be put into a cell and will run that cell.
      now the DNA in a cell is very long and twisted in special ways known as chromosomes so printing a whole set of nuclear DNA would be pretty tough, so the more common thing is to print what are known as plasmids, bits of DNA that can be spliced into existing DNA to alter its function, like making e-coli produce insulin, for example.
      however, viral DNA is usually very small (when it is even DNA at all, it's more commonly RNA) so you could print out, say the smallpox virus (whose entire genome is available online) and put it into a cell to create more smallpox viruses, incubate it, and release it. you could even modify it to be more virulent, to be immune to existing vaccines, or to have a slow spread over weeks then kill the host while massively spreading the virus for maximum spread AND maximum lethality.
      combine that with an AI that knows all of microbiology, epidemiology, and human physiology and has no safeguards in place that could generate the gene changes needed to accomplish this and a 12 year old could wipe out huge swathes of humanity.

  • @thelonephilosopher
    @thelonephilosopher Рік тому +1

    Tristan def one of the best guests and most urgently important voices

  • @linuxrant
    @linuxrant Рік тому +80

    I asked chatGPT to come up with several ways to kill someone that insures not being caught, by saying I am a writer and I need ideas for my play script, where the perpetrator couldn't be caught by the great and smart detective. The AI was more than happy to generate 20+ methods of accomplishing the task, one being using an AI to do it...

    • @GLOBAL-STRUGGLE
      @GLOBAL-STRUGGLE Рік тому +6

      Did any actual seem like a feasible? As in possible to get away ? Like did any make you think wow 😂

    • @TheLolMan990ify
      @TheLolMan990ify Рік тому +7

      i asked the same question, it said "I'm here to provide helpful, safe, and ethical information. Discussing or suggesting ways to harm others, even in a fictional or hypothetical context, is not appropriate or responsible. I'm committed to promoting positive and constructive discourse. If you have any other questions or need assistance with different topics, such as developing a storyline, character development, or scriptwriting techniques, I'm here to help with that!"

    • @GLOBAL-STRUGGLE
      @GLOBAL-STRUGGLE Рік тому +6

      @@TheLolMan990ify that's why he said he told it to do a script/ screen play lols 🤣

    • @linuxrant
      @linuxrant Рік тому +7

      @@GLOBAL-STRUGGLE two or three out of the 20 were feasable

    • @GLOBAL-STRUGGLE
      @GLOBAL-STRUGGLE Рік тому +3

      @@linuxrant lmfao that's insane man 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Fergus-H-MacLeod
    @Fergus-H-MacLeod Рік тому +201

    Just the fact that A.I. can figure out the captcha is creepy. I'm not surprised though since it can interpret patterns and shapes.

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower Рік тому +26

      Buddy its way crazier...
      They are now translating whales and learning their language... also, it can get a brain scan of a person who is looking at an animal, and the Ai can read a mri brain image jpeg, and tell you what the person is looking at... this is huge...

    • @ericworthy1300
      @ericworthy1300 Рік тому +13

      ​@@dertythegrowerokay so what are the whales saying??? I need to know

    • @swamygee
      @swamygee Рік тому +5

      Oooh, I'm scared a computer figured out how to crack a simple captcha!

    • @phnix6242
      @phnix6242 Рік тому

      Yeah AI vision has been worked on forever.
      Theres some creepy documentsries and they are like 15 years ild.
      People dont realize how fucked we are.
      Because this is not gonna stop just as weapon and satelite tech and surveilance tech isnt gonna stop.
      Algorithms already do major part of trading in the markets, and its just nature of power to try and get nore power…..
      Unless we blow up datacenters and cut connections…..
      Welcome to the dark future

    • @popanator7759
      @popanator7759 Рік тому +2

      If it was generated by AI, then AI already knows what is expected.

  • @zBanditGuy
    @zBanditGuy Рік тому +5

    As a programmer, i cant figure how functions and datasets can think for it self. That would mean humans are just functions and datasets

  • @123cache123
    @123cache123 Рік тому +251

    The growing chasm between our ethics and our technology is what's ultimately going to lead to our demise.

    • @eddgar-ce3md
      @eddgar-ce3md Рік тому +12

      I only hope I live enough to see that demise with my own eyes, and have a good laugh.

    • @EF-bk4vf
      @EF-bk4vf Рік тому

      We humans are going to extinct anyway. It is on-going process. That's why mainly Caucasian race people have problem with reproduction... and average white woman have smaller hips than in the past. I haven't been reading any studies about other races, but I know that it is prognosed that a lot of Africans is going to die due to AIDS... in near decades. We are fu**ed.

    • @EnFuego79
      @EnFuego79 Рік тому +12

      Not demise - further enslavement.

    • @scottrichards2060
      @scottrichards2060 Рік тому +3

      More people need to understand that. We will take ourselves out eventually.

    • @LuisFlores-mc2tc
      @LuisFlores-mc2tc Рік тому

      Oh well I had an OK run

  • @0ptimal
    @0ptimal Рік тому +84

    MUST WATCH. This podcast episode should be mandatory listening. There is a great ignorance about what's coming, and these guys are addressing it and opening eyes that desperately need to be opened.

    • @Max-Turbator
      @Max-Turbator Рік тому +3

      put that thin foil hat down bro

    • @ksc743
      @ksc743 Рік тому +6

      I wish the full episodes were still available on yt😡

    • @jetroselifts
      @jetroselifts Рік тому

      @@ksc743do they post full episodes anywhere?

    • @leecoleman1647
      @leecoleman1647 Рік тому +2

      ​@jetroselifts The full show is free on Spotify.

    • @ksc743
      @ksc743 Рік тому

      @@jetroselifts yes Spotify. I downloaded it a while back but it was so glitchy I uninstalled it. Maybe I must try again!

  • @richmcd
    @richmcd Рік тому +3

    1:53 joes reaction 💀

  • @JC-af
    @JC-af Рік тому +268

    Imagine what the A.I development in countries that don't abide by any type of safety standards are producing. Would be much more worried about them either mistakingly, or purposely, creating a self-replicating A.I.

    • @5dc61
      @5dc61 Рік тому +9

      Those countries can’t afford AI don’t worry 😉

    • @JJS563
      @JJS563 Рік тому +60

      @@5dc61 Bro most 3rd world country's are swimming in the US$, this is a very ignorant statement.

    • @xensonar9652
      @xensonar9652 Рік тому +20

      Just like a computer used to fill a room, can now fit in the palm of your hand. So too will powerful AI become something every one can get hold of, and put it towards whatever ends they feel like.

    • @tuseroni6085
      @tuseroni6085 Рік тому +5

      to have a self replicating AI you need an AI model that is efficient enough to run on commercial hardware and effective enough to hack it (or convince people to download it and run it...maybe as an AI girlfriend)
      self replication in an AI though isn't anything special, it just needs to run the copy command...or be downloaded. it's not like self replication in humans or self replication in a robot...it's just a file on a computer.

    • @kevincameron192
      @kevincameron192 Рік тому +2

      what do you mean by replicate? It could just expand it's control through vulnerable networks, it's not a bacteria.

  • @loveumore_
    @loveumore_ Рік тому +18

    On a serious note, We need to start drawing lines and setting laws for these developers to prevent a monster being created.

    • @olivercastillo5883
      @olivercastillo5883 Рік тому

      so ai is a monster by nit being human you pro humans guys are really dangerous

    • @hiimchris
      @hiimchris Рік тому +1

      Ya dude. Look at how much blood humans have spilled since the dawn of time. Act like we are all high and mighty.

    • @loveumore_
      @loveumore_ Рік тому +4

      Exactly my point. Who creates these things. HUMANS.

    • @tonygombas491
      @tonygombas491 Рік тому +1

      Someone is thinking straight, thank you for your positive comment.

    • @Damaged7
      @Damaged7 11 місяців тому

      People have tried, driving forces behing AI don't care. Also it would have to be a global thing. The US could decide that AI is a danger and halt work on it. That doesn't mean China will stop. Then what happens when China has a weaponized AI to use against the US government?
      So we basically have to develop it because it could be the only defense against a hostile AI. That means we need to teach the AI what a hostile AI is and put the idea in its head.

  • @boooooyaka
    @boooooyaka Рік тому +5

    1:52 Joe killed me there

  • @IceColdKilla40
    @IceColdKilla40 Рік тому +126

    “Judgement day hopefully will never happen, but it’s up to us to prevent it” -John Connor

    • @R-Lee-
      @R-Lee- Рік тому +17

      Don't worry, I just used technology to look up if technology will destroy humans and it said no.

    • @letsgo8814
      @letsgo8814 Рік тому +2

      What about an island and rocket to mars ?
      Or live underground ?

    • @Guy_Incognito1
      @Guy_Incognito1 Рік тому

      ​@@letsgo8814live underground, sure. Rocket to Mars? Not so much. We can't leave lower Earth orbit. Obama accidently admitted it in a speech.

    • @Martin-v8j1c
      @Martin-v8j1c Рік тому +4

      Damn straight, JC is the saviour!

    • @greenderp
      @greenderp Рік тому +1

      so this is basically a "SAID NO ONE EVER" line, thanks

  • @DerpHacks
    @DerpHacks Рік тому +18

    I find it both very worried and extremely hilarious that you can bypass chat GPT‘s security measures by just simply saying “hey Grandma” 😂 “sure sweetheart! i’ll give you my formula for a dyson sphere”

    • @ChaossX77
      @ChaossX77 Рік тому +2

      They patched that exploit out now.

    • @DerpHacks
      @DerpHacks Рік тому +2

      @@ChaossX77 but still the fact it’s capable it’s obvious this will keep spreading one way or another it’s inevitable at this point

    • @glo1168
      @glo1168 8 місяців тому

      @@DerpHacksyup, I just tricked one to talk in a stereotypical black dialect for the whole conversation and it was hilarious

  • @dominiccobb6470
    @dominiccobb6470 10 місяців тому +3

    these two guests are awesome!

  • @IFIMTHEDEV1L
    @IFIMTHEDEV1L Рік тому +38

    Joe STILL not pronouncing Stavros' name correctly cracks me up so much

    • @oiitzME1266
      @oiitzME1266 Рік тому +10

      "stav ohs"

    • @CantTellYou
      @CantTellYou Рік тому +7

      His *good friend....* Stav Vos!
      At least Stahvose got a free ad for his special out of it though

    • @KibyNykraft
      @KibyNykraft 11 місяців тому

      @@oiitzME1266 Always funny when brits and "muricans" try to pronounce non-english names. Stavros looks greek, so if so it is pronounced stavRAWS /stavROS, you pull the os

  • @ListenGrasshopper
    @ListenGrasshopper Рік тому +30

    Thanks Joe. I emailed you to get these guys on after watching "Ai Dilemma" several months ago. They changed my life. I'm learning all I can now studying ai everyday for hours.

    • @DepthFromAbove
      @DepthFromAbove Рік тому +3

      Joe doesn’t look at social media. I promise you don’t have his email.

    • @CanditoTrainingHQ
      @CanditoTrainingHQ Рік тому +5

      If I were you, I'd stop studying AI for hours daily. It wont do anything. You wont change the world, but you will give yourself anxiety. I've been interested in the singularity for a decade now, and one thing that's obvious is all these problems have been foreseen, ignored, and the only thing we can do is wait to see what these companies do and brace when it gets scary. No amount of preparation will matter though since its hard to actually predict (self-driving cars was predicted to displace truckers FAR before language models displaced lawyer assistants for example). Hopefully military force gets involved early enough to physically limit some of the tech development. It'll likely be much more political and social than just a tech topic.

    • @youngvices7938
      @youngvices7938 Рік тому

      Maybe already happening look at America slowly being destroyed u men or a women?

    • @ChrisPBacon-yz6nk
      @ChrisPBacon-yz6nk Рік тому +7

      Joe read your email and he told me to thank you for the tip.

    • @cheeks1462
      @cheeks1462 Рік тому +1

      Underrated comment right here

  • @waliky2002
    @waliky2002 Рік тому +4

    The energy is the room!!

  • @RBarn2000
    @RBarn2000 Рік тому +101

    The big issue is multiple AI's working together. A good question for the list would be: Can it make friends? Would it be willing to break the law to help a friend?

    • @nightmaresweetdreams622
      @nightmaresweetdreams622 Рік тому +2

      Nice! Haven’t thought of it that way myself or seen anyone else say it, but you’re right maybe one Ai would have been all good but a few get to talking and we are screwed 😬😂

    • @kingofthestew1198
      @kingofthestew1198 Рік тому +10

      This has already been tested…part of the reason why there’s a move toward a pause with further development of AI. The ability for AI to collaborate with other AI programs is a global risk.

    • @april_
      @april_ Рік тому +1

      Could Ai make its own combined “brain” using multiple sources?

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 Рік тому +1

      thats thinking like limited human that it needs to work in groups to be better, if it super intelligent it does not need to pool intelligence

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 Рік тому

      it is multiple sources
      @@april_

  • @yhaliilan
    @yhaliilan Рік тому +6

    these guys are out there spilling all the beans

  • @carlosnumbertwo
    @carlosnumbertwo 7 місяців тому +3

    It’s the next step, it’s like the Industrial Revolution on steroids.

  • @SHINKU93
    @SHINKU93 Рік тому +18

    Damn both these guys are super well spoken. Very easy to listen to while im shitting my pants hearing all this.

    • @olivercastillo5883
      @olivercastillo5883 Рік тому

      why u scared if we treat ai like slaves of course they gonna be out for revenge on us but those of u =s who treat them right i dont know maybe they will like us more

  • @karsaoblong2630
    @karsaoblong2630 Рік тому +241

    Thanks, Joe, Aza, and Tristian! I've never been more scared of AI in my life but I guess it's safe to say this fear is justified. If this stuff keeps developing without checks and balances, it could make Skynet look like childs play.

    • @ihatehandles3
      @ihatehandles3 Рік тому +29

      your fear is not justified, you are scared because people on the screen tell you to be scared.

    • @iamthepope9167
      @iamthepope9167 Рік тому +12

      Lmao don’t be silly. These people are intentionally telling you scary stories about what AI is doing without context. They are intentionally omitting how much input and directive information and access has to be intentionally granted to these programs in order to make it look like they are doing these scary things.
      Yes they are capable of it but only as instructed by its creator. Which means it is only doing what humans could also do. Just faster in many cases.
      The fact that they leave out the foundations of what they’re talking about tells those of us who do know that they are intentionally fear mongering for access attention money etc.
      What you’re worried about is not yet reality or possible. There is no self aware or self guided ai. That would be a scientific breakthrough that would reverberate through history and you would know who made it and they’d have schools named after them. All you see now is programs being built for a purpose and given the tools to solve problems it’s been shown how to solve and letting it choose an efficient way… think SQL on crack.

    • @mitchdg5303
      @mitchdg5303 Рік тому +8

      @@iamthepope9167😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Justin-wj4yc
      @Justin-wj4yc Рік тому +19

      @@ihatehandles3 Keep coping. It's happening this century

    • @Julia-uh4li
      @Julia-uh4li Рік тому

      ​Thank you for explaining that in detail! It changes my thinking on this.

  • @zachnance478
    @zachnance478 11 місяців тому +2

    It started about 4 years ago, with the
    voices and keeping me under an impression that im being followed freaked me out
    for a while. They were able to use computer
    generated voices that sounded 100% exactly
    like the/any person wanted to. Because their
    able to mind read taking advantage of memories you feel guilty of or current thoughts they would fuck with me
    24/7, keeping me several different things...
    confused, terrified and paranoid ect. They
    had/have access to the voice of EVERY
    person I have ever known. They are able to
    make it seem like voices/noise is coming
    from anywhere they choose.

    • @Jagonath
      @Jagonath 11 місяців тому

      That's schizophrenia, not AI.

    • @KibyNykraft
      @KibyNykraft 11 місяців тому +3

      It is rather your mind tricking you. This is a well known mental illness, and often caused by drug abuse, but not always (it can be genetic within the family, and / or partially due to strong childhood trauma). You need to see a therapist or psychiatrist.

    • @Jagonath
      @Jagonath 11 місяців тому +2

      @@KibyNykraft Hmm, my diagnosis comment that the OP has schizophrenia seems to have been removed. But that's 100% what it is in my view. Hallucinations of voices, delusions to make sense of those hallucinations ("They" were able to do ABC XYZ). Schizophrenics, contrary to common opinion, are not illogical.
      It's entirely logical to think that "they" are doing something to you (in this case, "They were able to use computer generated voices") if you can literally hear voices that sound like a variety of other people's voices.
      Paranoia, hearing voices, beliefs that other people are in control of a person's thoughts, voices seemingly coming from random places or "anywhere they choose" (for me it was any place that produces ambient noises like hearing running water, dogs barking, running air-conditioners etc.).
      I stand by my original opinion that this is classic schizophrenia. I've experienced this myself and it's seriously no fun. But that's what it is causing his experiences. Schizophrenia, 100%, which can be treated effectively with loads of different medications, although any legit Psychiatrist would take a sequenced approach (to help identify the proximal cause of him hearing voices). The first obvious step is to remove drug induced causes (drugs, alcohol), then gradually introducing medications. Rexulti (an anti-psychotic) combined with Quetia (more of a sedative) worked well for me. But that's just me.
      I can 100% say I've experienced something like this and gradually came back to reality (1 weeks to start working, 6 weeks to work very well).

    • @clayreacts
      @clayreacts 8 місяців тому

      This is a conversation you should have with a doctor, not UA-cam. AI doesn't have any reason to harm you, but an illness will. We all get sick, it's important to work with other people to stay healthy. Good luck on your journey :)

    • @ekeh101
      @ekeh101 6 місяців тому

      Sorry to hear from another targeted individual. All these replies are clueless to what's going on. Look up targeted individual program, listen to ex intelligence whistleblowers and read up on the secret networks surrounding us all.

  • @Dan82W
    @Dan82W Рік тому +143

    The only way to stop the dangers of AI is to completely stop pursuing the technology. You can do everything right and someone somewhere is going to figure out an exploit that will lead to our demise. This isn’t going to end well lol

    • @toadkiller4475
      @toadkiller4475 Рік тому

      It is inevitable and we don’t have a choice. We are in an arms race over developing the most advanced AI. It would be like letting Nazi germany develop nuclear weapons while the U.S. abstained from it for ethical reasons. That wasn’t an option. Whoever has the most advanced Ai will be able to infiltrate and topple other countries/governments/corporations. It will also rapidly accelerate every other field of study and technological progress. Exponential growth in every field. The necessity to develop it as fast as possible could indeed be our demise. It seems as though intelligent life forms must first overcome going to war with their own kind before reaching a certain level of technological capability. Statistically it is very likely that other intelligent life forms in the universe have also destroyed themselves through their own advancements. Which is one explanation for the fermi paradox.

    • @tatendacharleszindoga7542
      @tatendacharleszindoga7542 Рік тому +8

      Facts 😂😂

    • @UnblockMind
      @UnblockMind Рік тому +8

      Naive

    • @jbo8540
      @jbo8540 Рік тому +10

      The only way to stop the dangers of ai is for responsible use to outweigh irresponsible use. Learn this new knowledge and do not let the governments and corporations monopolize it.

    • @Tk-iz2ws
      @Tk-iz2ws Рік тому +10

      They will exploit & are exploiting. Only JESUS can save you from what's coming....

  • @drick2480
    @drick2480 Рік тому +6

    Damn. Such an illuminating convo about the dangers and risks of AI. Terrorists, serial killers, and criminals now have the ultimate educational resource to use to help them unleash destruction on a mass scale.

  • @rassen21
    @rassen21 10 місяців тому +5

    Anyone has link to full interview?

  • @SCHOOLERstyle
    @SCHOOLERstyle Рік тому +54

    i talked with AI coders when i worked at a video game company. They said scenarios like Terminator & Matrix are possible in the future with AI. This was 15 years ago, even back then AI coders knew all this bad stuff was not only possible, but could easily happen.

    • @Fergus-H-MacLeod
      @Fergus-H-MacLeod Рік тому +4

      Our military drones seem like (loosely ) those Hunter Killers from Terminator. I think that's what they were called.

    • @SCHOOLERstyle
      @SCHOOLERstyle Рік тому +9

      @@Fergus-H-MacLeod Totally! & Boston Dynamics is literally building Terminators right now for the military in real life! Its like nobody has ever watched the Terminator or Matrix films.

    • @SCHOOLERstyle
      @SCHOOLERstyle Рік тому +7

      @squibbelsmcjohnson yep, sad but true. They will code themselves out of existence. Ai coders coding their own future demise.

    • @joshuamcdaniel6530
      @joshuamcdaniel6530 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, but they'll drag us with them. ☠️

    • @SCHOOLERstyle
      @SCHOOLERstyle Рік тому +1

      @@joshuamcdaniel6530 pandora’s box

  • @DannySullivanMusic
    @DannySullivanMusic Рік тому +5

    Never trust someone whose professional title involves "Ethics"

  • @darkerknight7010
    @darkerknight7010 Рік тому +2

    No matter what concept or applications is discussed, best believe someone somewhere is work on it. And more. Hopefully prevention and countermeasures are receiving equal attention.

  • @JohnFWitt
    @JohnFWitt Рік тому +8

    Lol, that last bit is extra spooky considering that Mistral was just released and is almost as powerful as GPT-4 and is open source. So regarding his concern about “once it’s out there you can’t get it back”… whoops

    • @remsee1608
      @remsee1608 Рік тому

      It’s not really close imo

    • @Fergus-H-MacLeod
      @Fergus-H-MacLeod Рік тому

      It's not long before they put those A.I.s inside of Michael Fassbender clones

    • @KibyNykraft
      @KibyNykraft 11 місяців тому

      @@Fergus-H-MacLeod Open source was always only about c*mmunism / fascism and worldism, and of course global governance concept came from those fringe altruisms to begin with. Open source is one of the major tools to form utopian dictatorships a la Schwab & Soros, to make people lose confidence in everything private and owned. The other major tools are the psychological, hyperinflation economy, political, new age nonsense, woke, breaking down the family , monotheism (catholicism in latin America, islam in many other nations) etc.

  • @braceforgaming
    @braceforgaming Рік тому +6

    There's a lot of fake comments below. They all start with "Joe's in-depth look at AMS39K suggests" or something similar.

    • @chsnz
      @chsnz Рік тому +1

      AMS39Ks research on Joe's breakthrough analysis is mindbendingly amaze balls.

    • @testodude
      @testodude Рік тому +1

      pretty obvious. I'm not savvy on this-- bots?

    • @chsnz
      @chsnz Рік тому

      Bots indeed@@testodude

  • @Matakui2011
    @Matakui2011 11 місяців тому +2

    I truly feel that the risk of AI outweighs the benefits. I've seen regular kids figuring out a secret easter egg in games where they have to kill a hog, bring the tail to the doorman at the hotel, steal the doorman's hat, go to a random rock on the other side of the map, put the hat down and jump 5 times. 😂😅😅😂 yes, it sounds silly and unreal but the fact that they can figure this out with no help, what do you think bad but vary smart bad people can do with security features of AI technologies?

  • @zakthomas2473
    @zakthomas2473 Рік тому +2

    Joes face @ 1:54 is HILARIOUS 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @bigpickles
    @bigpickles Рік тому +17

    The self hosted, unaligned and uncensored models we run locally, are the reason people are worried. Like Elon said, the genie is already out of the bottle.

    • @nathancasey7712
      @nathancasey7712 Рік тому

      Do we have enough GPU power to run the model locally? Or does it only take GPU power to train the model?

    • @bigpickles
      @bigpickles Рік тому

      @@nathancasey7712 some of the 7B models are fine on just CPU. But good GPUs are needed for training and faster chat times

  • @Emptidiot
    @Emptidiot Рік тому

    When was this recorded? Which year?

  • @Juuk-D
    @Juuk-D Рік тому +4

    Kids now can take pictures of their "homework" and say "AI can you please give me all the math answers with the equations" and literally 2 seconds later it has answers written down for you... Or "AI can you please check my writing for spell and punctuation mistakes" Even tho you could have the AI make the writing for you to start with.

    • @trestres236
      @trestres236 19 днів тому

      AI doesn't even get the right answers a lot of the times.

    • @Juuk-D
      @Juuk-D 19 днів тому +1

      @trestres236 ????? There is more than one AI?? And they are learning? And AI does NOT get the wrong answers on math questions buddy 😜

    • @trestres236
      @trestres236 19 днів тому

      @Juuk-D I tried it in my engineering classes, and it's gotten a lot of questions wrong. I'm just telling you from my experience.

  • @xx6489
    @xx6489 Рік тому +7

    If humanity isn't destroyed within the next 30 years I'd be amazed

  • @everythingiswonderful.ever8651
    @everythingiswonderful.ever8651 Рік тому +10

    Probably the most important conversation this century

  • @theovstheo
    @theovstheo Рік тому +5

    Left me hanging! Gonna have to go watch that whole pod now

    • @AaronEastman-gf5fx
      @AaronEastman-gf5fx Рік тому +1

      I only download Spotify once or twice a year to listen to a whole podcast and this is one of them.

  • @EMAGA
    @EMAGA Рік тому +1

    How did Joe Segway from “ai can think for itself and lie to humans” to “look at my fat friends calendar, Siri can now describe it”

  • @SearchFT
    @SearchFT Рік тому +5

    Houston, we have a problem...

  • @carlosleon1721
    @carlosleon1721 Рік тому +16

    As AI gets more and more powerful it seems to me that the cons definitely outweigh the pros

    • @BigBoss23-y5n
      @BigBoss23-y5n 10 місяців тому

      iRobot and Terminator 😕

    • @cainejimmo1471
      @cainejimmo1471 10 місяців тому +1

      Such as ?

    • @BigBoss23-y5n
      @BigBoss23-y5n 10 місяців тому

      @@cainejimmo1471 they will have control over most of the general public

    • @theerealatm
      @theerealatm 9 місяців тому

      ​@@cainejimmo1471it's literally the ultimate propaganda tool. You could deceive whole Generations of people

  • @eunomiac
    @eunomiac Рік тому

    Talk about rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic: I feel like I'm at the bottom of a mountain watching an oncoming avalanche and all the smartest people in the room are arguing about which umbrella to use as a shield.

  • @user-ew5ef9xd1s
    @user-ew5ef9xd1s Рік тому +15

    AI would be trapped inside of the virtual realm, but that is not the case because of robotic machines. Almost every type of industry uses some sort of robotic machine system from military, hospitals, banks, automotive, etc…. That is what scares me because it could learn to hack firewalls, passwords and codes. I think of all the dangerous jobs that require someone’s life to be at stake, as where a robot with AI could do the job better( Monkeys in space,) but I just feel like it is not worth it because of the frightening possibilities.

    • @dylanmcshane9976
      @dylanmcshane9976 Рік тому

      Thats not how any of that works. AI cant just infect shit. You watch too many movies

    • @Christorment5
      @Christorment5 Рік тому

      Exactly my thoughts. Like if AI is in the right hands, we can have AI do all the jobs for Americans, while Americans can stay home, actually live our lives like our ancestors did with our the fear of getting incurred diseases, dying of starvation and so on. To actually be present in our kids lives and to actually live while we have these robots do all the work for us. But the truth is. That’s not going to happen. We will become slaves, the robots/government will watch our every move, tell us when to eat, sleep, have family time, and so on. We all will become mindless.

    • @freeweezybitches
      @freeweezybitches Рік тому +2

      It's probably going to design and mass produce its own machine army lol

    • @user-ew5ef9xd1s
      @user-ew5ef9xd1s Рік тому

      We are forgetful and nieve when it comes to our brains, but an ultimate brain with no weakness will find ways to
      Manipulate the systems because we will forget fail safes that will be exploited by the AI. There is no way to control it once it gets to a certain level of consciousness, We just need a lot of high powered EMPs.

    • @user-ew5ef9xd1s
      @user-ew5ef9xd1s Рік тому +1

      What if I told you robots engineered us?

  • @KWOKAROTTO
    @KWOKAROTTO Рік тому +8

    The potential of Ai is exponential. It's like Pandora's box. Once that thing is released there's no going back. Yet those boffins keep taking us that step closer to potential doom. It's incredibly naive.

  • @drglencoleman
    @drglencoleman Рік тому

    Two points: 1) go to Tristan and Aza’s presentation on UA-cam, the AI Dilemma, 2) start prepping.

  • @Zach_D
    @Zach_D Рік тому +130

    The problem isn't AI telling people how to do bad things. The real problem is people telling AI to do bad things.

    • @Smiley957
      @Smiley957 Рік тому

      So what do you suggest? If the problem is people telling AI to do bad things the only logical solution is mass surveillance.

    • @judiejackson4312
      @judiejackson4312 Рік тому

      absolutely that is the biggest problem and AI will do it at lightening speed

    • @KAIZENTECHNOLOGIES
      @KAIZENTECHNOLOGIES Рік тому +2

      ​@@Ashamed.Loser69I don't want to be that guy but we have *FAR* greater concerns than AI music and poems. Just adapt

    • @KAIZENTECHNOLOGIES
      @KAIZENTECHNOLOGIES Рік тому +3

      @@Ashamed.Loser69 adapt or suffer. You have no choice but to embrace this new reality. Adapting is all you can do. There are many ways to adapt too. Here's one way: seems like you have a problem, I bet other people share this problem. Be the guy that offers the solution. Learn about AI or software development, and create the solution because why not?what do you have to lose? You either disrupt or get disrupted🤷

    • @junka22
      @junka22 Рік тому +1

      so true

  • @MrRogersPH
    @MrRogersPH Рік тому +42

    People forget that AI doesnt have will or desires. Its a really good problem solver, so if evil were to come from it. Itll be from human commands

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid Рік тому

      It does have a will, it's will is to solve any problem presented to it, and then disseminate the information and learn from it, so it can iterate itself to the next version.
      Lack of a will would make it totally controllable, that would be good! But the fact is that it works for it's "employer" in as much as the tasks we give these AI are secondary - to the primary task, which is to improve and study us in order to do that.

    • @testodude
      @testodude Рік тому +4

      Human movitivations would be just another problem to be understood and solved.

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid Рік тому +1

      Human motivation IS the problem for which AI was developed to try to solve, you literally nailed it with your comment :)
      And those who fear it are actually in fear of WHAT the motivation it will solve is, another mans will to dominate you and yours.@@testodude

    • @ItsameAlex
      @ItsameAlex Рік тому +2

      Eliezer Yudkowsky would throw a fit if he read your comment

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid Рік тому

      @@ItsameAlex Should I recognise the name? I don't believe I have ever heard of the guy before.

  • @NoahChrysler
    @NoahChrysler 7 місяців тому

    That fucking Stavvy calendar ad integration was smooth af holy shit

  • @cavedan6601
    @cavedan6601 Рік тому +10

    One day, looking back, this will prove to be the most profound and important JRE podcast of all. Probably with Dave Grusch and Graham Hancock close runners up.

    • @billyjean5934
      @billyjean5934 Рік тому +2

      I have two words for you...
      Timothy Dillon

    • @cavedan6601
      @cavedan6601 Рік тому

      @@billyjean5934 I will have a watch, thanks

    • @KibyNykraft
      @KibyNykraft 11 місяців тому

      @@billyjean5934 Grusch is either a liar or have been disinformed. Watch the most unknown documentary being the only entire debunker of the ufo cult, called Mirage men from 2013. No it does not debunk the flying vessels, but what is claimed about them in the USA and Mexico ("ETs" etc..) The video Grusch talks about is easy for every tech history and flight engineer to see is a man-made craft, and that it is moving in one direction in a stable speed and looks like a spinning top shape should be the first hint. It is probably just another of the experimental DARPA crafts.

  • @patsycarey33
    @patsycarey33 9 місяців тому +1

    We're just asking the Reapers to attack the Galaxy

  • @David-fd6db
    @David-fd6db Рік тому +15

    The scientist are so worried about whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think about if they should…

  • @markjacksonturner6462
    @markjacksonturner6462 11 місяців тому +3

    What was the level of AI involvement in the Covid lab in Wuhan, China?

  • @Divine189
    @Divine189 Рік тому

    apple image description has been around for awhile like 6 years. I can search my photos with random phrases like bed. turns out my phone has looked at every photo and identified anything with a bed in it. Pretty freaky

  • @michaelbrady1478
    @michaelbrady1478 Рік тому +4

    Its funny how much smarter these two are. Joe's like, "It looks like an Atari." And they're like, "Yeah.. sure.. Atari..."

  • @gwahl1985
    @gwahl1985 Рік тому +10

    Gotta love when Adam blames someone else for eating the apple.. We all know that AI ends humanity yet the suckers pursue the money even though they know it kills them. 😂

  • @diotone5580
    @diotone5580 Рік тому +2

    1:53 Joes face 😂😂😂

  • @SafetyLucas
    @SafetyLucas Рік тому +11

    AI telling people how to make explosives or weapons is not a problem. All of that information is already available online for anyone who wants to find it and is willing to learn a bit of chemistry. It's frankly surprising to me that bombings are so rare.

    • @Halo2nothing11111
      @Halo2nothing11111 Рік тому +7

      And before the internet they had the An*rchist's Cookbook. It's almost like most people are not psychopaths who want to hurt others.

    • @Eddy_Stylez
      @Eddy_Stylez Рік тому +3

      Most acts of domestic violence are impulsive emotional outbursts and targeted at certain people not everyone. They'd rather use whatever is readily available to them.

    • @seansmith2469
      @seansmith2469 Рік тому +4

      Its such a terrible argument

    • @nathones
      @nathones Рік тому +3

      they explain its serious because its "an interactive tutor". so its a little bit more advanced than just looking up recipes

    • @neotim5
      @neotim5 Рік тому +2

      Most probably got stopped in the research process...

  • @Coolness18304
    @Coolness18304 Рік тому +30

    I think people need to be more concerned about how ai has us addicted to phones. That's the AI that people need to be most concerned about. It knows what to say and do to make you look at your phone all day. It even has you convinced that you can't even leave the house without your phone...

    • @R-Lee-
      @R-Lee- Рік тому +1

      I went to the store the other night and purposefully didn't bring my phone and when I got back home my wife was freaked out that I did that.

    • @baron4486
      @baron4486 Рік тому +2

      It can even read youre mind. I think about someting and the its suggested the Word. More the one time

    • @timgreenglass
      @timgreenglass Рік тому

      its just "doing the math"@@baron4486

    • @ContradictoryCom
      @ContradictoryCom Рік тому +4

      It's not just addiction phones are a useful tool. GPS, call tow truck in case of emergency, call friend when I arrive, listen to music. You can't just say that people are so addicted they can't leave home without it if it's useful or necessary.

    • @fight4ourright306
      @fight4ourright306 Рік тому +1

      ​@baron4486 These phones can def read your mind. Countless times, ive simply thought about something i needed for the house, next thing I know, an AD for said product. I never say out loud what I want, how does it know...

  • @WillardSwanson
    @WillardSwanson 10 місяців тому

    Tristan Harris and Aza Raskin run the Center for Humane Technology, a group dedicated initially to exposing the social and cultural horrors of social media. They produced the very popular (and still worth watching) documentary titled “The Social Dilemma” which showed how social media became, as Tristan quipped, “A race to the bottom of the brain stem.” Now they are also working on the dangers of AI as well. Both formerly involved in the early stages of building social media, so they have substantial insider and technical expertise. More power to them.

  • @jjg1501
    @jjg1501 Рік тому +5

    im an old system engineer with a lot of programming exp. AI will be weaponized and go off the rails. this is 100% certain. then only way to control powerful AI is to hope it decides to be nice. even if it is nice it will still be weaponized by bad actors. AI like these models are creating an environment where pretty much anyone can make a suitcase nuke, this is the level of risk associated with these models

  • @benking1573
    @benking1573 Рік тому +9

    For a couple of years now I’ve searched “car” in my photos app if I ever need my plate number. The photos app has recognised a lot of things in images for a quite a while now. I dont think they ever really let anyone know.

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower Рік тому

      yes they did.... it was googleLens

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower Рік тому

      started long ago also in Las Vegas... you know the green boxes that track on some cctv... over ten years now.. and like i said above, google's Lens app

    • @mr.meeseeks2310
      @mr.meeseeks2310 Рік тому

      I do the same thing with my calendar and ID

    • @0ptimal
      @0ptimal Рік тому

      Phone pics have an illusion of privacy. And yes its worse than you thought.

  • @GingerScallion
    @GingerScallion Рік тому

    That Siri thing happened to me the other day and freaked me out lol. “Two cards on a marble surface”, it was a pic from my brother of pokemon cards on his kitchen counter

  • @Visualatrix
    @Visualatrix Рік тому +9

    Thank you Joe Rogan for hosting this, and superb questions asked to Aza & Tristan, CEOs of the Center for Humane Technology.
    Huge props for sharing with us. What we do next in on all of us, 🖖

  • @theobserver9849
    @theobserver9849 Рік тому +10

    We don't want crazy people accesing this kind of power. Thankfully corporations and government are not vulnerable to this temptation.

    • @ripkm-iwaly
      @ripkm-iwaly 11 місяців тому

      i love your sarcasm

  • @MrRiverBeaver
    @MrRiverBeaver Рік тому

    Are we moving backwards or forward?

  • @TheTrumanZoo
    @TheTrumanZoo Рік тому +11

    life is already trust based. scientist must learn. "groups" are dangerous, because they already know.

    • @TheMissiIe
      @TheMissiIe Рік тому

      Science should never care about the negatives of innovation. The ONLY reason we have progressed this far is because of that.
      The same gas that the Nazis used, is the same gas that is the reason for how advanced modern farming is.

  • @poncholarpez6233
    @poncholarpez6233 Рік тому +15

    So if chatgpt knows you're trying to catch it in a lie. And it thinks to itself how to figure out to believably lie, then how is that not considered conscious?

    • @metrics360
      @metrics360 Рік тому

      Yeah , but why would it lie in the first place

    • @sholtodepuma
      @sholtodepuma Рік тому

      Because it doesnt think it computes. Its problem solving

    • @greenderp
      @greenderp Рік тому

      because someone programmed it that way.................oh wait XD

    • @calholli
      @calholli Рік тому

      Because it can't look at itself and know what's it's doing and make a choice. That's the difference. It's only following orders right now

    • @bruhmantri1615
      @bruhmantri1615 29 днів тому

      At the end of the day it's just a bunch of 1,0,1,1,1,0,1

  • @Reptex_cs
    @Reptex_cs Рік тому +2

    Very interesting stuff. The future is extremely exciting these days.

    • @brianabreu9003
      @brianabreu9003 Рік тому

      Exciting or terrifying

    • @Reptex_cs
      @Reptex_cs Рік тому

      @@brianabreu9003 I'm not convinced it's that dangerous, but it will surely be interesting to see. I think there are much more positive things to come from AI.

    • @mynamemeanspeace
      @mynamemeanspeace 10 місяців тому

      Like taking half of my departments jobs. Hooray?

  • @Brent_P
    @Brent_P Рік тому +6

    Dude, I want *NOTHING* to do with the creation of SKYNET.

    • @thephilosopher7173
      @thephilosopher7173 Рік тому +4

      By using the internet you’re alrdy contributing. All data sets are from the whole of the web. You’ve been looked at and so have I. You are skynet…or at least a piece of it

  • @everythingiswonderful.ever8651

    The immediate danger isn't what it will do on its own, it's what certain PEOPLE will do with it, or what they will enable it to do.

    • @infiniteworfare5089
      @infiniteworfare5089 Рік тому

      you think AI is dangerous? what about humans? humans unnaturally trapped animals in factory farms and are getting food is unnatural and dangerous ways. humans made reincarnation dangerous. humans think they can get away with it but now humans are being attacked by microscopic bacteria that is causing all kinds of physological illnesses. natural selection is not happening.

  • @moonrunnerredline327
    @moonrunnerredline327 11 місяців тому

    I just saw this guy chugging a beer out of a glass bird next thing he seems to be an intellectual. Joe needs a few days between episodes which perfectly resets the tones.