Hazbin Hotel Episode 5 and 6 Review
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- Today episode 5 and 6 of hazbin hotel released. Like usual in this video i’m going to go through each episode individually, talk about the things i like and then the things i disliked. Lastly ill finish up with some concluding thoughts.
So right off the bat in episode 5 we finally meet lucifer. His voice was quite surprising but i quickly got used to it and i really like it. He’s a multi faceted character where he’s super upbeat and jovial like his daughter charlie, but he’s also clearly depressed and quite nihilistic. We see this firsthand in his room where he hides away and creates ducks. Across the walls are family photos of him with lilith and charlie, highlighting how much things have changed. I think alot of people were expecting lucifer to be this threatening leader of hell, but i think his character is really well designed. He’s from heaven, so it makes sense for him to be so jolly.
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00:00 Intro
00:12 Episode 5
02:54 Episode 6
05:57 Conclusion
06:11 End Screen
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Lucifer saying “take that despression” while throwing a rubber duck was my favorite non-singsong line in the show so far
I totally felt it and I was like... But h fuck, you too Lucifer. 😢
I love how in the song you can see him make an angel duck. dude is like Blitzo just instead of horse he likes ducks
The king of hell can ALSO be depressed! He's one of us! lol
@@fairystail1Vizzie likes a certain kinda man lol
Same because I felt that in my soul
I love how Alistor nearly never swears or loses his cool, when he told Lucifer “fuck you” it genuinely took me aback a bit 😂
That's the thing about rarely using profanity. When you do, it has a HUGE impact.
@@VoodooAngel63 like I do get Viv’s reasoning for the swearing, me and my friends swear like sailors in just regular conversation so I completely understand, but having more characters that rarely swear really does give more of an impact you are correct, definitely wish there was more of that happy medium
I laughed so hard when he said that
@@midnights2631I went OOOOOOHHHHH at my TV so loud my partner came running in to find out what happened 🤣 it released at midnight for us so I was watching it on my own and woke him up when Alastor did that
Alastor swears now huh?
I love the "You Didn't Know" song because it directly mirrors and contradicts Adam's "Hell is Forever" song, expressing how the rules really aren't black and white but in fact shades of gray.
Are they, though?
@@Adam-326 the exterminators, angels, literally kill demons for existing and they arent casted as fallen while i bet there are a few demons, especially seen through helluva boss that just made a few wrong mistakes and ended up there. murder of rage is much better than a genocide imo-
@@saltstorm1025 First of all, if they’re guilty (which they are), then it’s not g-cide. Secondly, if they’re in Hell, then they’re supposed to be punished, forever. Death is a mercy, even if Hell isn’t really all that bad in the show. Most importantly, we don’t know the criteria for entering either Heaven or Hell, so Adam and the Exterminators could very well be right.
Adam and the other Angels don’t even choose who gets into Heaven, it would seem. But again, we don’t have enough information to call them the “bad guys”.
@@Adam-326 This I think sets up two possibilities for how this even works
1) God created the fundamental rules that govern who goes to Heaven and Hell, which would account for Sera herself not understanding how it all works and that souls just 'show up' and thus she doesn't question it. This version actually does suggest a Black & White morality system since the rules for what gets people into Heaven or condems them to Hell are essentially hardcoded into Creation itself. If that's the case then you could no more make a moral argument against it than you could arguing that every living thing having to consume something else to survive is immoral. In this case, the Angels are little more than stewards over creation yet having little understanding of what they're actually presiding over. Some of them may try in earnest to run things well but have no real idea how, while others may take advantage of the seemingly vacant throne in order to basically do what they want. They're like children playing house while Father is away.
2) Who gets into Heaven or Hell is (somewhat) arbitrary and might be based upon one's own sense of self. Someone like Adam would be an example of how this works, as by his overall personality he basically has no sense of shame or self-doubt, and thus despite being a giant tool he nonetheless gets in because he himself truly and deeply 100% believes he should get in. Meanwhile, most sinners, even the psychotic ones (Alastor) basically all fundamentally accept the premise that what they've done has earned them Hell. In this system, even relatively minor offenses might get you into Hell because on some level you _yourself_ believe that's where you're going. In essence, who gets into Heaven or Hell is about state of mind, which of course makes this version very morally ambiguous.
My personal theory is that Lilith owns Alastor’s soul (like Ayy Lmao said in the video). It just makes sense, they’ve both been missing for 7 years, Alastor comes back and IMMEDIATELY goes to the hotel and offer help to Charlie, and it would explain his immense hatred of Lucifer. Why wouldn’t you hate the husband of the woman who owns your soul?
Okay, I don't know who let you cook, but it's cooking 👀
ex-husband too apparently, cause he and lilith separated!
I thought the same thing! I mean who would have the ability to own Alastor's soul? Gotta be someone high.
I bet she’s owned his soul even before he died. Like he made a deal in life while he was a serial killer and that’s how he was able to be so powerful from the get go in hell
Looked like Alastor was intentionally trying to piss Lucifer off to get him closer to his daughter maybe it was a play to get him to listen
I wonder how Vaggie is going to explain this to Charlie
It’s gonna be a pain to see Charlie and Vaggie’s relationship strained in the next episodes.
I feel like Vaggie should have hinted this anywhere in during the season. I just really hope they resolve this 3rd Act misunderstanding with them within the next episode, not a fan of this trope.
To be fair, she hesitated at killing a child and letting the child go on front of i'd assume flute
@@Demongunner7is it a misunderstanding? She was genuinely an exterminator
@@Demongunner7 I mean it was hinted, just very subtly. Some people even took notice to how her X’d out eye looks very familiar to the angelic exorcists, and the fact that she uses the same weapon as them too. . . At some point there was also promo art of her with wings but people assumed them to be moth wings.
Hearing alastor swear for the first time was amazing
It wasn’t his first time cussing, he says Vox was pissy because Alastor wouldn’t join his team. But yea he doesn’t cuss often witch makes it more interesting when he does
@@Pinkipuppy333 pissy isn't a curse word
@@lumityforever I'd say it's one of those curse words that isn't super vulgar like "crap", so it's technically a curse word but doesn't hold the same ferocity as one. This is just my take on it though
😭🙏I was so shocked I had to pause the episode.
@@CatalystRaptorI wouldn't say "pissy" is a curse. You can say a child is being pissy and it isn't swearing at a child.
Lucifer is a little goofy goober. I love him so much
Yeah, he's so funny, I remember when the wiki said he was described to be similar to Willy Wonka, guess that was pretty accurate.
I’m curious why he’s the leader of the Pride ring.
@@swordsmanthegamernine7973There is one thing I find rather interesting. While we haven’t seen Leviathan, Satan, and Belphegor, most of the cast of seven deadly sins seem to be nice people (excluding Mammon ofc lol). In my opinion, based on Lucifer’s lore and the way he acts, he’s classified as the sin of Pride because he committed a sin of pride (aka giving man free will) because he thought it best in his own mind to give them that, showcasing “superiority” against the rule of the angels. He clearly isn’t a confident person as shown in episode 5 and is a rather anxious and implied depressed character. If anything, seems he represents the consequences of pride. He isn’t close to people, he gets so worked up over himself and his creations that he doesn’t take the chance to do things like be a true father to Charlie which led him down the path to end up alone
TLDR: He committed a sin of pride that defines his role in hell rather than it directly representing his character/personality
@@valkyrieagainsttheworld that is an interesting take on it honestly. Cause Beelzebub, as seen in Helluva Boss, is the embodiment of ‘too much of a good thing’, she lives to party and do nothing BUT. She wants to consume and never stop, that’s the embodiment of Gluttony. Meanwhile Mammon is…well a greedy little shit fuck. Asmodeus represents Lust but is also capable of Love. I’m curious if Satan is going to actually be overly angry, OR if he’s gonna take a more subdued path to wrath and just be…hateful. Also I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I hope Belphagor has THE MOST GENERIC demon design ever, just red skin and some horns, nothing over the top. You have EVERY REASON to be lazy with Belphagor’s design BECAUSE they’re the sin of Sloth.
Honestly I was not expecting that from Lucifer AT ALL but I am here for it
I do love the explanation the show gives for Adam’s character. He’s a terrible person but allowed into Heaven just because he is the first man. He’s open to committing sin (especially lust, literally naming Vaggie after what he considers the best thing) because he knows he can never be cast down to Hell.
Its also possible that they forced him to be an angel cause it mean allll the og humans end up in hell.
I saw the episode but i didnt catch on what vaggie was suposed to mean 💀 i feel so innocent rn
@@somethingunusual8456 yeah me neither lol it just occurred to me when reading the comment
My theory Emily is trying to get in contact with Raphael, Gabriel and Uriel.Who are going punish Adam not by sending in hell, where being a fallen angel means he would be stronger than demon and could easily rise in power and being a pain . No, they send him on Earth with lute saying "you will work with the sweat of your brow."
I believe the archangels are fighting the evil(Eve lovecrafts demon form) but they lost Michael, and for this is so messed up around. Thee were something bother me from the pilot there is rainbow thst carried souls to Heaven with only six colors, which blue is missing. Blue is used for Michael. Being so busy and lost their commander/brother make them ignore everything else.

@@somethingunusual8456 Vaggie = Vagina
I think Al dislikes Luci for a number of reasons, first one being that Lilith who Lucifer is obviously affiliated with owns Alastor’s soul. We also see that Alastor has quite a fragile ego. He's probably used to being the most authoritative in the room. But here comes Lucifer a jolly zany guy who could not only snap Alastor out of existence if he so wished, he also doesn't bother to know him and unlike Al doesn't feel the need to demonstrate his power as a method of authority.
I don't think Al does see Charlie as a daughter, there’s been no inclinations of it in previous episodes, but I do think he knows that in all other aspects he can't beat Lucifer except for his status as a father which he decides to attack.
Honestly, yeah. I can see all of that- It really would fit Alastor's personality.
I can actually see this
that makes a lot of sense!
Perfectly put, in this episode we get a glimpse of what Alastor's weaknesses actually are, and it's sosososoo funny because his level of pettiness is absolutely unmatched. Theres no boundary he wouldn't cross to assert dominance.
you're right but i didn't really get why was alastor annoyed when lucifer hugged charlie
Sir Pentious is one priceless insecure demon.
At least he was able to get it on with everyone to have that experience lmao🤣😂🤣😂
@@dmcx-tv2308Ser Pentious is a real people’s person.
I honestly am curious of how Sir Pentious and Cherry bombs relationship will go.
would u mind if you had a drink with me
Excuse me is the season 2 coming
"you didnt know" is a textbook example of how musicals portray major plot points / climactic moments, with changing melodies, callbacks, and the sprinkled in talk-singing replacing regular dialogue. i'm sorry but i loved it
Ngl I do have a bit of a problem with how nearly every major reveal so far has been expressed through song, but the songs are so good they win me over anyway. Hell is Forever was a jam, and I got chills from the reprise in You Didn't Know.
I loved it too. It was fun af
@@HopAndLockDropSoppityPop because that is kind of the point of the Show. It is supposed to be a kind of musical. And in musicals, the plot develops through song
The other thing is in terms of the over all plot this is the part where the main story is revealed. I suspect by season 2 same time we will learn of the real major threat. My guess is Eve, Adam is going to get injured which gives us Eve and we will learn that She is why the exterminations are happening.
@@tgdm_showThere is nothing wrong with progressing the plot through song, but I just think the execution isn't great here to be honest. Like for example, Emilly suddenly completely turning against the people she knows and trusts the most after Adam only mentions the word "exterminate" during the song just kinda feels very rushed and therefor not very believable.
My theory as of now is that Lilith is the more "evil" of the two parents; since Alastor was away for seven years and Lilith has been missing for as long, AND Husk said Alastor was on a leash, I think Lilith is trying to do something sinister with Alastor as her henchman. Also, when Charlie was having fun with Lucifer as a child in that scene shown in the song, Lilith picked her up and walked her out of there. Something is wrong with Lilith...
Or you are just looking too much into it. At the beginning of ep 1, Charlie has said that the hotel was both her and Lilith's dream.
Alastor is a violent psychopath who seeks nothing but power and inducing both fear and pain in others (Both when he is alive and as a demon)
He probably did it purely for the power coming from making a bargain with one of the most strongest of denizens in Hell and It could've just so that in the contract it says he has to protect Charlie and the hotel
She seems to have not been a bad mother, as we know that Charlie seems very close to her. And as Luciferia said, Charlie mentioned it was both of their dreams to redeem people, meaning her mother supports her and wants her protected
I mean it's quite clear that in the scene with Charlie as a kid with Lucifer, she was up past her bed time. She took her to put her back in bed. I don't think Lilith is evil per se, I do however feel that Lilith and Lucifer grew apart after being cast into hell. I forgot that Charlie said the hotel was her and her mother's dream.
In the pilot Vaggie said that suddenly alastor manifested in hell over night and had insurmountable power no sinner has ever had before, and no overlord has seen before. That could be because upon dying and being sent to hell he immediately struck a deal with Lilith, in return for insurmountable power, he would act as Lilith's cleaner. As in, he would be sent to deal with over lords, secretly by Lilith, that were problematic in Lilith's eyes. Which is why he rose to power so quickly because at the time the regime of over lords, outside of zestial since he is the oldest over lord, were deemed as problematic in Lilith's eyes. Who knows Lilith might own Zestial's soul too and she used him as an informant.
@@luciferia.1313 That's a good point, I forgot about that. I feel like both of Charlie's parents being good is boring though lol
@@huntermagnuson8062 It would, if vivzie didn't already mess her series a little up. Many demons show too much empathy for the liking along with angels who are supposed to be just perfect. Especially since vivzie takes their "true representation" very seriously that she is literally using the more graphic designs of the angels like the Seraphims from the bibel. So if they show emotions, they should honestly stick to them at least accordingly to her constant claims of both Luci and Lilith's madly in love rule, instead of changing everything up left and right (It makes it look quiet evident that they have no writers in the shows) like in Helluva Boss. Besides, evil wannabe narcissistic parents are pretty outdated anymore actually, especially after Blitz, Stolas, Crimson, Stella and so much more. The same old thing. Especially with the dads, its evident that viv uses Daddy issues as a sort of "plot armor" I guess?
Just realized that Charlie had an emo phase. 0:27
That is too funny.
RIGHT? I went pausing the episode and saw that picture, it reminded me of Octavia 😂 that's where hell's royalty is mentally hahaha the biblically accurate rubber duck Luci made was also funny
Dementia moment
That was my favorite joke in the entire series.
I loved these episodes! Seeing Sir Pentious’ crush on Cherri is SO cute x]
“..I bought you a shot…because I bought everyone a shot!” - Pentious
@@Nebula_Blitzarit was a good strategy, until the end...
@@Nebula_Blitzarthat was honestly one of the best joke ever, also the only time I laughed at a sex joke
REAL
@@williamaguilar5519
Plus, his immediate regret as he’s dragged into the room by a bunch of random demons
Emily and Charlie singing together was great to see.
I dislike how Emily is just the angel version of Charlie though
Especially that seen when they just express their mannerisms in the song exactly the same just felt lazy
@@DavidPill1967Maybe that just means that she agrees with Charlie that much…
were they the same voice actor? because it really sounded like it. it was really distracting
@@RiSK907they aren’t the same voice actor but I had to look it up they sounded that similar
The way Charlie took the big reveal with Vaggie at the end told me that there’s gonna be a bit of tension between them now and I’m not ready for it!
Me neither
Same, I'm scared
@@midnights2631according to the spoiler image released they will make up before season 1 ends. The image shows them hugging
There shouldn't be. Charlie is all for second changes there is absolute 0% chances that this is going to affect the relationship. And if it affect, it'll make no sense for Charlie's character
@@CauaCarvalho-kb3cl I know their relationship will be fine in the end. I said a bit a tension. Maybe they will have tension but it ultimately won’t last long
I feel bad that this season is so condensed that everything is moving too quickly.
Might be a development issue. Maybe Vizie only got the green light for a limited number of episodes. Wants to put as much in as possible?
It’s a shame cause if there were ten episodes it probably would have fixed a lot of the pacing issues
Edit: At least it’s confirmed we’re getting a season 2
I swear shows keep getting shorter and shorter, I remember when 24 episodes were the standard, then it went to 12, and now they can get away with 8? In a few more years each season is going to be a one 5 minute episode 💀
@@liviaguerrero943 it’s the binge culture Netflix created
@@andrewstephens1531 Yeah, seems like the usual Amazon bullshit that we're used to
I EXPECTED BEEF IN EPI 5 BUT EVERYTHING ALASTOR SAID WAS SO UNCALLED FOR 😭✋️
I was not expecting the beef between Alister and Lucifer to go that way; if anything I was expecting it to be a power measuring contest.
Given that Alister says he is there to watch the redemption plan crash and burn for his own entertainment; I LOVED that he kept saying “our hotel” and rubbing in the fact he’s been there supporting Charlie from the beginning and saying he’s proud of her
@@Halfbad-bf1lt Yea but the part with Mimzy and alastor after he murdered the lone sharks has me feeling he's slowly but surely starting to think that her plan could very well indeed work, if only slightly. I think, outside of Alastor being a possible antagonist, now with a moral dilemma, alastor is more becoming a neutral party at the hotel, he could care less what happens, it's all entertainment for him, whether the hotel succeeds or fails, it could also be that Lilith, if he is under her leash, owns his soul and is forcing him to help Charlie. Regardless things have gotten interesting and I can't wait for 7 and 8.
I'm surprised to hear you didn't like the final song of episode 6. Got me hyped. The callbacks to previous songs and advancing the plot worked wonders for me, and it was catchy with the genre shifts between characters.
I dislike how Emily is legit just Charlie if Angel and nothing else
Same mannerisms as Charlie in the song is so weird and the court system was shit
The best part could have been seeing how heaven are morally right but too self righteous or distant from others to consider that souls can be redeemed
agreed!
Too quick
On the complain of the "you didn't know" should have been dialogue. It was a major plot point and music is how musicals handle that. It feels off if you treat it like a normal animated series, but it fits as a musical
EXACTLLLLLLY
This comment right here. You understand it
I just finished watching episodes 5 and 6, I gotta say they were freaking epic! It was so awesome to see Lucifer make his debut in the show! And as always the songs are absolute bangers, Especially the duet between Charlie and Lucifer it's sweet that despite being the ruler of Hell he truly loves his daughter!
But after watching episode 6, I'm wondering how Vaggie is gonna explain the things she did when she worked for Heaven to Charlie. Because I'll bet Charlie will no doubt be heartbroken, But knowing her she'll probably also try to forgive Vaggie despite how hard it will be.
Considering the spoiler image of episode 7 was them hugging so I get the feeling Vaggie is gonna reveal something about the angels imo I think it has to do with the masks. Like if Vaggie has been doing this for so long killing thousands but when the mask comes out she suddenly has a change of heart. I think the mask does something like show their true demon form so it's much easier for Angels hate demons since they would all be in their most horrible grotesque form.
Nah I actually like this Lucifer. He’s in Hell as punishment as well. It would make sense that he suffers from the same things as everyone else. He’s not just the boss of the pride ring, he’s the first victim as well. Him being depressed and lonely is his Hell
@@BrendonKing Yeah, Although now I'm curious as to why Lucifer and Lilith split. Because you never know there's probably more to it then the cliche possibility of Lilith just becoming sick and bored of Lucifer.
@@TheCommenterDragonI have a feeling lilith split from lucifer because he wasn’t the same man she met. As it’s said after lucifer got put into hell he gave up on his dreams and became depressed (reasonably so). Leading to lilith leaving him and taking Charlie because if Charlie stayed around lucifer she likely would’ve given up on her dreams like lucifer (which he actively tries to get Charlie to do) so I have a feeling lilith split just to make Charlie not give up on her dreams and try and change hell for the better as she would know lucifer had the same dreams as Charlie but he gave up on them but Charlie won’t.
TLDR: lilith split from lucifer so he wouldn’t have an influence on Charlie giving up on her dreams
Unrelated to the previous comments, but I would find it really funny if after Vaggie and Charlie make up they explain the story and how Vaggie's an angel
to the gang and one if not all of them are like "Ya think we didn't know you were an angel". Now that I'm typing this that's most definitely what's gonna happen
Just finished both episodes. The confirmation Vaggie is Ex-angel. Who owns Alastor? Angel standing up to Val was amazing.
Just finished watching these ones, they’re SO GOOD. I think it’s sweet how Alastor thinks of himself as Charlie’s adopted father… at least I hope that’s the case
I don't think Alastor is being benevolent there, I think he is purposely manipulating Charlie and trying to get under Lucifer's skin
Nah, he is trying to mess with Lucifer.
Naw he was just trying to piss off Lucifer
It was sweet, but it was totally to manipulate.
@@huntermagnuson8062 yeah probably lol
A little unfair to complain about the pace of the show and compare it to Helluva Boss, while HB is an indie production and they can choose how many EPs they want in a season HH was only given 8 episodes with a 23 minute runtime, hopefully since Season 1 is getting great reviews S2 will be given more episodes
Complete and full agreement. We have to put it into context. Honestly it has a lot of heart with the limited amount of episodes they have put out!
That’s my thing exactly, people forget because we got helluva boss first that indie and studio play by different rules. They got a hard deadline, budget, and run time and to trim things down would lead to these characters feeling bland as we don’t know them and slowing down is legit now an option.
I hope their given more time with season two, but I can deal with pacing issues for a studios first ever shot at the big leagues
If this is there first shot at the big time then I got no complaints. I’ve been following them since they first revealed Alastor. If the next 2 episodes are to be the last, I’m hoping for a big finale. If any of the stuff people have been theorizing or that’s been foreshadowed is true, I can say this quote will Charlie to a tee at some point.
“Demons run when a good man goes to war.”
@@andrewstephens1531 well good news, they still are already confirmed a season two, they started working on it before the shows season one was being released. So basically now they have more time, good feedback they can work on since they couldn’t really change the first season, and more understanding in how their episodes will be laid out in prime. Which hopefully leads to them fixing the pacing issue and possibly even getting more episodes with how well hazbin hotel is doing.
@@bjwill9047If season 2 is still in the making and they can get a season 3, I feel like the main issue of the show (fast pacing) could easily be fixed. Fingers crossed!
3:29 Technically it's not confirmed everyone is good though. They sang about how good they are but Charlie in court learned that virtues(or atleast the 3 virtues Adam mentioned) do jack to earn you spot.
So we might learn in future episodes about more bad faith actora like Adam
That’s because Adam just made them up. We don’t know what the *actual* criteria are.
@@Adam-326
Charlie: “That’s a nice argument, but why don’t you back it up with a source?”
Adam: “My source is that I made it the fuck up!”
@@brawler5760 Pretty much, yeah.
2:20 in general, that's a problem with the show
I love both episodes, but I feel Lucifer was too goofy, kinda wanted the king of hell to be a tad more imposing. Lucifer and Alastor's relationship was hilarious in how petty it was.
I agree. The prince of pride deserves to be shown as a prideful being.
I think he just has no time to really feel enraged. He is only troubled when something bothers him directly like how close Alastor is with Charlie. Everything else is just stuff that happens around him because nothing can really harm him. Plus after losing your first and only wife and then estranging your daughter, it's clear he really only has depression left in him. I feel like if he saw Valentino try and do something to Charlie we would only have 2 V's left
I think he's depressed and it's his way of coping with it
@@BeeruzChrysler Exactly this.
Honestly I think what they're going for with this is to show that Lucifer is _still_ basically an angel, despite his Fallen status. Being a Fallen would not necessarily cause a sudden shift in personality, so Lucifer still having his angelic qualities I think makes a good bit of sense. I do agree they could have toned down the silly just a bit, but otherwise I find it refreshing that Lucifer is actually treating Hell like what it's supposed to be for him; a prison. He's the "King" only in the sense that he's the most powerful being there, but he hates it and has no interest in actively ruling, instead just surrounded constantly by eternal reminders of the darkness his actions brought into creation as he's only ever allowed to see the bad, wicked, and vile aspects of Free Will, so of course he's going to be jaded
Now as for Lilith - I personally hope she's actually a villain. It would be kind of crap if both she and Adam were both created in the same way and out of the same stuff, yet he just ends up being a huge douche and she's an awesome and amazing person. I'd be far more interested in finding out that Lilith is every bit as bad as Adam, just in different ways, and her and Lucifer splitting up seems to suggest that there may be something to that. Basically 'strong and independent' taken to a toxic extreme in that she chafes under _any_ kind of restriction or obligation, and thus ditched Lucifer and Charlie because she just can't be tied down or beholden to anyone else but herself.
These episodes were fantastic, I actually loved the songs from episode 6, especially the part in "You Didn't Know" where Charlie and Emily duet a reprise of "Hell is Forever"
I definitely think the fast pacing is simply due to budget restraints. Helluva boss didn’t really have this issue becuse Spindlehorse can have as many episodes in a season as they need, but Hazbin clearly needed at least 10 to have avoided the rocky landing. I’m hoping season 2’s longer otherwise I worry for A24’s future with Indie Animated Project
Dude, they were already making a season 2 when season 1 was in production, they said it in the first trailer, so that's not an excuse 😂
2:50 I love the detail of the tools in Lucifer's room. Really adds to his characterization as this creative type who loves making things.
I cant wait for episodes 7 and 8
but then it’s the end of the season :(
@@guillanvales8740 good news is that Amazon already greenlit season 2, so we got some more lore to eat up soon :]
Then it will be time for season 2
@@Dragonmaster2009Hopefully next year.
See ya fellas this Thursday
I think, in my opinion, this show is way better than Helluva Boss. I feel like this show follows a theme and sticks with it and the characters. To me, are just likable
also the fact that they definitely have set episodes helps.
Helluvaboss theoretically can have as many episodes they want and go at their own pace and as a result it kinda feels like some episodes just should have been cut. We don't need so many episodes where the moral is that Moxie needs to grow a spine.
Agreed
Exactly, hazbin hotel is way better the helluva boss. The characters are actually likable
@@pc_115 I really think toning down the cursing helps quite a bit.
Saying that though Moxie was supposed to be one of the softest people in Hell and while I wouldn't consider the Hazbin crew 'soft' (Charlie excluded) they are pretty nice, even those who have to be there like Husker and for the most part they want each other to be happy.
The mocking of Moxie could really use some toning down.
I thought so too, but ep 6 changed my mind somewhat. Didn't enjoy that episode very much.
Honestly, I kinda wish Husk and Angel could stick it to the Alister and Val. Let's be frank, neither are good people and yeah, Husk went too far but Alister is still nothing short of a self-serving bastard who may or may not be tied to Eve/Lilith. However there was a video of a theory that Vaggie was an Angel who probably died and thus, was reborn in hell and now we have our answer on the matter. Should be interesting to see how this develops.
I agree 💯 my feelings for Alastor kind of went down once he got in the way of Lucifer’s and Charlie’s relationship, like it was unnecessary for him to do that. He definitely does have a big ego also the way he treated Husk wasn't really good either acting more as some egotistical a**hole like Val maybe not as bad as him but we really got to see his ego side in episode 5.
@@ILuvBanannerz It's also what people do for Angel people pretend like he didn't sexually harass Husk on the regular.
@@ILuvBanannerzI think it’s because before these episodes he was depicted as a chaotic overlord who loves messing with people. Don’t get me wrong, I still love Al as a character, but we all still have to remember that he isn’t a good person at all
"if hell is forever than heaven must be a lie, if angels can do whatever and remain in the sky" is the best put together words in the whole episode
Sooo a couple thoughts i have: Lucifer is exactly how i pictured he'd be and i love his voice. Loved the subtle little Huskerdust moments, like Angel and Husk sharing popcorn, Husk backing Angel up on staying on the right path, Angel handing Husk the shot he took from Nifty with a soft look on his face for a second, etc. Lots of good stuff there! Sir Pentious and Cherri would be amazing lol. I think theyll find a way to each other, as he is awkward and endearing and genuine, and shes a powerhouse that needs something like that. Especially in some scenes we see her looking down until she too puts on a mask like Angel does; somethings bothering her. I want to think Alastor was sent by Lilith, but i honestly think hes tied to Eve/Roo. They did something to get Lilith out of the picture, and now are trying to bring down Lucifer and Charlie. And if theyre somehow tied to Heaven (like with Eve), it explains Zestials mention of Alastor falling to holy arms, the 7 year absence (holy number btw) and the white at the front of his suit.
My top point from episode five was Alastor telling Mimzy to leave, but also opening the offer for her to stay if she was interested in actually aiming for redemption. The way the lines were delivered in a way to show that he is in some way actually invested in the redemption concept, beyond the personal entertainment of watching the others fail.
I find it interesting that even though Alistair does not want Redemption and I think it's really clear that he's probably on a leash with lilith. I think he does actually kind of want Angel sir pentious and even possibly husk to get Redemption. Like Alistair is egocentric and very clearly enjoys the power that he has as an Overlord but he never does anything to actively make it so that Souls can't be redeemed I find it interesting that he really is trying to make the hotel a success. And that made all be because Lilith is pulling the strings but there's almost a genuineness when he offers her a place at the hotel if she really does want to change and I think that's beautiful honestly it shows that maybe Alistair cares.
The whole Mimzy thing was interesting on multiple levels.... Did anyone else catch the mark on her right shoulder blade? Looks like a symbol of Mammon.... Actually in the beginning of S2E7 of Helluva Boss when Blitz and Fizzy are kids at the Mammon event Fizzy's shirt has that EXACT symbol on it.....
I don't know if this was confirmed anywhere, people probably hashed it out ages ago, but seeing Lucifer hanging out by himself, half crazed with a circus-ringmaster vibe and wishing he was closer to his daughter, made me realize - he probably had LuLu World made for Charlie. The cheap knockoff LooLoo Land would later be a refuge for Stolas and his own daughter.
Honestly, I think what would have helped episode 6 was to have an extra scene with Charlie and Emily interacting and getting closer, it would have made their duet more powerful.
I always entertained the theory of Vaggie being a fallen angel. I wasn’t fully for it since the evidence seemed circumstantial sometimes so it is funny to see that many people were correct.
I was a bit iffy on Lucifer having kind of a high voice, but now I feel like it is very fitting. He was like an excitable kid when he was in Heaven. And when his depression hit, he probably never really “grew up” after that experience.
I’m so glad there are genuinely good angels in Heaven. I was really worried the show would have all the heavenly denizens be entitled, judgmental jerks.
And Sir Pentious crushing on Cherri was something I didn’t know I needed.
This show definitely needed more episodes, and it's clear that the pacing suffers because so much needs to be condensed into what we do have. Four more episodes would definitely have helped. I'm personally not as bothered by the faster pacing, though, and still enjoy the episodes for what they are.
While I agree with most of what you said, I definitely gotta disagree with 'You Didn't Know", cause I absolutely love that song. It had one of the strongest lines in the show, and this moment was more powerful *because* it was a song. The show is a musical after all.
EASILY the best episodes of the show so far. No real pacing issues, great character dynamics, cool worldbuilding. Mmm two great episodes especially episode 5
Episode 4 is still the best imo. The pacing for episode 6 was SO fast
No real pacing issues wtf???? The content in the episodes are sooo good but in my opinion the pacing is way too fast.
I’d say episode 6 was going mach 10 in terms of pacing in all honesty but deeply enjoyed the content.
The pacing is horrendous idk what your taking about.
The pacing and constantly shoving new characters each episode is a major problem of the show.
For me personally the whole “it’s too fast paced” isn’t a problem
Because I get to rewatch the episodes without getting bored
Same here!
I kind of wish Sera would’ve been more open minded. Not exactly immediately buy into Charlie’s idea but consider slowly that sinners can be redeemed.
I agree with fast pacing but I think it’s because of the paranoia of being cancelled and trying to fit as many as plot lines so if it gets cancelled we can piece the ending on our own.
The episodes are funny and had good songs except the welcome to heaven song. I’m glad heaven isn’t bad or corrupted or at least what people were theorizing. It’s a grey area in terms of allowing souls and banishing angels.
Interesting Lilith is still vague and the whole Alastor being under a leash as said by husker. He’s definitely was sent by Lilith for some reason
3:06 This was my favourite scene. When Sir Pentious said what he says, my sibling and I just burst out laughing. My sibling started coughing too because of how hard they were laughing. We had to pause the episode until we both calmed down lol
I won't quote what he says because YT properly wont like a certain word being used but if you know you know.
I do also like Emily and how unlike the other angels, she is the one who believes in Charlie and redemption and wants to help them. She is defiently what Heaven SHOULD be but isn't. I expect her to take the role of that one Heaven character who remains on Charlie's side and would most likely pick them over Heaven later on in the show even if it risks her becoming a fallen angel like Vaggie.
The final song is so good in my opinion actually! The fast pace and the way it included almost reprised parts of older songs brought in flavours of hamilton anchored in the sound of WICKED
I mostly don't agree with your Hazbin Hotel takes but episode 6 pacing was a little too fast but I know the reason why so I'm not to upset with it I love all the songs from both episodes right now these two episodes are my favorite
Wow, the Heaven scenes, background characters and "art" on the walls are so familiar with the Goetia.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Goetia are hells' parallel to the seraphim, they seem very similar in design
Ngl lucifer and charlies song at the end of episode 5 made me tear up. Also glad to finally see what heaven and the angels living there look like though I was surprised that the exterminators are wearing masks. I wonder if adam is wearing one or thats really his face so his soldiers emulate it.
My only issue with these episodes is there are too SHORT😂 I wanted more like the relationship between sera and emily to be expanded on
I think Charlie and Vaggies relationship will be fine i feel like Charlie would be a hypocrite to not have some kind of forgiveness for Vaggie. Also Vaggies fall directly proves Charlies viewpoint that a sinner can be redeemed if a angel can become a sinner then a sinner can become a angel
Facts.
Yeah I like the show I feel like the main problem with the show is there limited amount of episodes feels like they wanted to tell more and didn't have time. Hopefully Season 2 might get more episodes.
Anyone else love how one of Lucifer’s first reactions to getting “trolled” by Alastor was to whip out a golden fiddle?
when i tell you that i SCREAMED when i saw that!! XD
Angel's twin sister is in the welcome to hevan song. She's the one in the lower right when they all pose. Matching her family's drug name theme, her name is Molly.
Season One has had the general problem of being too quickly paced but I think Episode Five has had the best pacing. It's fascinating to see Heaven and the political climate of it between no one knowing how souls get in and most of Heaven being unaware of the extermination. Emily seems like she'll be a nice shake up in the Heaven chain of command. Did anyone catch Molly in the Welcome to Heaven song by the way? Great easter egg.
Umm, sorry to burst your bubble, but that's episode 6 you're referring to 😅
To me it's a shame they make "Heaven le Bad" statement where they are just wrong and are either dumb or evil. That to me is not nuance.
That is just painting white side black and vice versa which does NOT create gray.
@@xenoemblem7 I know. I was making two separate statements.
It kinda bothers me that lucifer is short cuz I still want him to be someone fearsome but if I’m being honest it’s fine I just hope we see a full demon form lucifer with huge horns and gigantic (or maybe a gigantic angel form)
4:20 I thought the same thing when sera said she didn't want emily to end up like lucifer i was like oh ya she's goin to hell for sure
I think it’ll happen to show how corrupt heaven is, sending those who even dare question the morality down below. I think that when and if this happens, sera won’t take it too well…
it took me a while to get it - but i love niffty's line when she says "for my collection" to Val; she's killing bugs and pests for fun, so Val being a moth is just another bug to her xD I think that's clever writing, I enjoy it a lot xDD
Hahaha I never thought of it like that, that's a brilliant explanation 😆
One of my favorite parts was when husk said to Alastor "Big talk for someone who's also on a leash." Al gets really pissed off from this for some reason. I'm super curious to know the theories!
I personally loved the court room song. Iove how intense it was and i also love the call backs to Adams previous song and the way Charlie and Emily deconstructed its meaning.
1.- It made more sense that Vaggie was an angel than Carmilla's daughter, although it was obvious that the theory of being a daughter made no sense, at least we now have one less on the list.
2.- That episode verifies that Alastor
has his soul owned by someone else, someone that has been left the same 7 years and the reason why Alastor just pop up so casually to help Charlie in the Hotel.
Poor Husk, he hit it the first try and almost died.
I love Lucifer with all of my heart and I want he and Charlie to have a great relationship again. Looking at the fanart I always kinda knew he was a little sweetheart, but dang this episode dials that up to 1000. Also Hell’s Great Dad reminds me of Friend like Me from Aladdin with a Cuphead instrumental.
"You didn't know" was an amazing song that basically revealed the flaws in their system. The angel in heaven is a mirror image of charlie where she realizes that the human souls in hell have a chance to be redeemed but are sentenced to death without a second chance showing a flaw in the system. While charlie realizes that her people could be redeemed but for some moral high ground and fear they are kept in hell. Demons can be redeemed with effort but aren't allow to, while angels in heaven can do heinous things but can still remain in heaven. Musically and lyrically i also loved this song lol and i keeped on hearing it over and over.
Also this whole Vaggie thing also shows another flaw that an angel who did the exact same thing as all the other war angels and got herself INTO heaven is now in hell?(they didn't explain to heaven why she's now in hell when she's an angel) showing that an exchange in people is already possible. Like by their standards Vaggie is a good person able to meet the "criteria" to get into heaven.
If Charlie had know about her before the courtroom scene they could have used her as a perfect example of the flaws in the system
Excited to see Lucifer. Saint peter was younger than i expected but overall i like the design.
1. I think these are the 2 greatest episodes of anything Vivzie has ever put out. Both of them the story is great and the music just hits beautifully.
2. I now 100% believe that Alastor is working for Lilith. He’s being forced to protect Charlie and the hotel and to make sure that her dreams come true. I’m pretty sure he was pissed off at Lucifer because he’s the reason he’s on someone’s leash.
Lute is so hatable and i love it, it’s really well written and underrated
These two episodes blew my mind, it felt perfect, now I am actually super hyped for the upcoming episodes.
Holy moly I loved these 2 episodes so much I really liked the Lucifer and alastor song and the second song in episode 6
Honestly loved Lute’s design. Ik someone mentioned previously that the exorcists all wear masks, but I wasn’t entirely convinced. Cool to see they’re just regular angels with a secret task from the Seraphim.
The second song in episode gave me so many chills.
The fact that this is a musical is why important moments like that are sung and not spoken.
I LOVE lucifer i LOVE how menecing Alastor is i LOVE how heaven looks and i LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THESE EPISODES.
when 6 ended i legit felt so scared and hyped and then realized i gotta wait for episodes 7 and 8 for a little while and got upset for a moment lmao.
I think Episode 5 and Episode 6 are really cool especially when we meet Lucifer and Mimzy plus I love seeing Young Charlie during Lucifer and Charlie's song I think seeing Alastor and Lucifer dislike each other is hilarious plus I have never seen Husk so scared in his life especially when he confronted Alastor. Episode 6 having Cherri Bomb in this episode is amazing and I think its funny that Sir Pentious has a crush on her despite these two having fights and turf wars together also I love all the angels in this episode and I have never seen Lute's face revealed before which I guess it's cool plus I can't believe they revealed that Vaggie used to be an angel but got kicked out for saving a Sinner, I do feel sad for Vaggie since she lost an eye when that happened.😁😊😮🥺
0:33 if i could create anything, I'd create ducks too
Honestly You Didn't Know is probably my next favorite song behind More Than Anything. The brief duet between Charlie and Emma was perfect and amazing and served as an excellent thesis statement for the season as a whole.
Awesome episodes, just finished them (couldn't watch sooner).
About ep 5:
First, Lucifer was a very interesting character, and I tried to be serious, but the fact that he is so smol just made me laugh a lot.
Second, very good song between Alastor and Lucifer. Don't get me wrong, but I don't believe that Alastor really thinks that way towards Charlie, he got a plan, and he is very good at manipulating people.
Third, damn, poor Husker.
Fourth, finally some Alastor action scene.
Now, about ep 6:
I'll be short, I loved seeing Angel facing Val, man, I really wanna see Angel killing him at some point, might not be on Season 1, but that gotta happen.
Oh, and Vaggie is screwed, how is she going to explain THAT to Charlie?
Im glad this actually isnt
"Hevean bad" but its more like "Adam had hevean wrapped around his finger". I also like that the people in hevean were actually nice ppl (they also all look edible). Im hoping Emily stays an angel and maybe the gang gets Lute on their side
Not feeling up to doing a detailed response, but I want to say I really appreciate this review! I'm an animator, so I was mainly distracted by the drop in animation quality starting with episode five (quick explanation is: there's more tweening, and the art style is less consistent between shots, as in how the characters are drawn stylistically as well as how things like their lineart are handled). So I'm glad the first reviewer I found for these episodes gave it an even-handed perspective from someone who likes the series.
For sure the pacing is definitely an issue, with it the worst in these two episodes by far. Anyway, my main point is, thanks for the good and quick review! You have some impressive pacing yourself (as a sincere compliment) to get reviewing both these episodes in under seven minutes!
I LOVE both episodes so much! But I do have to agree that the pacing is SO FAST. I kept rewinding to just have a sec to wrap my head around what the hell just happened. I have a feeling that A24 & Prime might be to blame for that tho😢
It was really distracting in episode 6 because it sounded like Emily, the little angel, and Charlie had the same voice actor. I really disliked that. My other critique is I wish Lucifer had been more serious and powerful. I wasnt a huge fan of how intensely goofy he was. As the most powerful character in hell, you'd think he'd be a bit less of a short dork. Aside from my criticisms though, I had a really fun time and the musicals were awesome.
im betting that he was more like that in the past but just fell off
2:02 this is the first time we’ve seen Lilith
Tbh serpentius is my favourite character in this episode he was just so funny 😂😂😂
Did you know that Adam's "stick it to the men" is a reference to the actual song of Alex Brightman
Episode 6 won me over and I warmed up to the show abit, it and episode 5 ending felt like it was a serious show for a time. I still continue saying that short number of episodes in season is a huge problem, we got so many bomb shells in ep 6 and show just doesn't have time to develop them.
I mean with episode title like "Hello Rosie" will it be enough to develop Charlie, Vaggie relationships, hell's reaction to 6 month time being shortened to 1 month, etc etc
Also hells time wasn’t shortened to one month, 5 months had just passed naturally in the show. In episode five Charlie mentions how she told her dad about the bite 5 months ago, so it was a bit of a time jump
I was thinking that Lucifer will be more like Alastor. Looking and beeing nice, but it would be just mask. Like in real lif... no I am sorry, I wasnt...
1:45 I was watching that part frame by frame (dont ask why) and I noticed that whole corridor had blackout and red light was only in parts where Alastor was standing in. So the light was moving with him, horror movie like.
The two newest episodes got my heart and soul really melted, I just loved Lucifer at the first moment I've seen his picture on the pilot, and now, this is so much better...I'm in love, that's it guys !
The SUBSTANCE of the episodes I was hooting, hollering, and gasping the entire time I NEED MORE
Honestly, I'm in love with and on board for the Alastor having ties to Lilith theory, but with Vivzie wanting to involve Roo by some point, maybe it's possible he's under some form of connection to Roo, or that Roo enlists him to further cause chaos, etc. (given with her as being the root of all evil, Alastor involved himself with her, since he was happily involved as a serial killer when he was alive)? I'd love if Lilith is the one he's tied to, with that subtle hint from Husk that he answers to a higher authority, but I can't lie and say that Roo didn't cross my mind, either. MAYBE he's technically under Lilith, but it's the imposter Lilith theory (in that it's Roo taking Lilith's image)? So, HE IS under Lilith, but it's in reality a disguised Roo?
Just had to throw that out here.
And with how Lilith looked during the song with Lucifer in the flashback sequence, she seemed so vague in appearance, so it makes you wonder...
Both of these episodes were amazing and I can’t wait for what Season 2 has to bring, and I know like Charlie and Emily are gonna be good friends. 💯
I'd say that Charlie knows she has to fix the relationship with Vaggie. She talked about how Adam is a hypocrite and how everyone can be redeemed, it would be double hypocrisy to break up with Vaggie
Was a bit worried about the show when I saw the first 4 episodes, but after watching the new ones i can now say that I'm super hyped for future episodes.
Alastor saying he and Charlie have bonded, and he feels like a father figure came out of nowhere. What bond Alastor? You've barely interacted with Charlie, except talk down to her. This show has a bad telling, but not showing problem.
And the 5 month timeskip is jarring, we're just zooming through the time.
That was on purpose, alastor is lying to get under lucifur skin and simply to get Charlie more on his side for a reason. It’s pretty clear from how he acts later on he’s simply putting on a show to get the hotel into trusting him, like how when he’s fighting those guys who barged in Charlie is like “see he’s helping, why aren’t you?”. It’s simply a trick, Charlie just falls for it cause she’s really naive and optimistic
As for the time skip, well they kinda had to, they don’t got a lot of time to progress over months of time naturally. And it makes pretty good sense actually, a few months makes it more believable that these people like each other more now.
@@bjwill9047 but Charlie acts like she sees the bond too. So she's either stupid or desperate for any type father figure. Even one that said he doesn't believe in her dream either, but it'd be fun to watch her try and fail
I was confused. Why were Alastor and Lucifer were so hardcore going at each other? Wasn’t this the first time they met??
I'm speculating that this isn't the first time they have met.
@@AngelsonEarth69Lucifer literally said "who are you?" to Alastor though.
Yep the first time they've met and they instantly hated each other!
The Lucy/Alistair duet was hilarious and the Lucy/Charlie duet was really beautiful. I love how Em and Charlie sound so similar cause they have the same ideology. 9/10 set of episodes
1:15 why did alastor's mouth match almost perfectly with the commentary lol
As for the 5th episode... Alastor always steals the show. He was so scary this time and it was the first time he said fck you, omg, he is a heartless son of a btch indeed but Husk said he's on a leash so it's becoming obvious he has a deal with Lilith or Eve or whatever happened 7 years ago. So what if Alastor made a deal with Lilith for a power and she got his soul and she parted with Lucifer and now she commanded Al to spy on Charlie and he wants to make a deal with Charlie to trade his soul for a soul of Charlie? These are just my thoughts. Idkw but this situation makes me feel uncomfortable because I root Al whatever he's up too. I'm scared(
I kinda wanna know who owns Alastors soul
prob lilith
Probably the same entity that allowed him to become so powerful, so could be lilith, the goetias or one of the sins, im guessing lilith though
Honestly feels like they crammed two seasons into one. Like the first 2 episodes feel like a mix between a season 1 plot and season 2 plot then the last half just feels like a season 2 plot. I think the first season should've focused just the main cast with Charlie trying to figure out how to actually rehabilitate sinners rather than this idolized summer camp stuff. Now that I think about it they've could've had each episode focus on one or two of the main cast in the first season to get to know them, do some funny hijinks stuff and have the V's be the kind of joke main antags like what they usually do for the first season. Then have Adam and Lute introduced at the last episode. Then the second season could've started with the fallout with the extermination going down to 6months, meeting the other Overlords, etc. Then y'know everything that has happened after meeting the Overlords except episode 4. Episode 4 is defiantly a season 1 ep. Maybe its cause that has been the formula for most cartoons that have come out recently so my thats just how my brain thinks a tv should work but it strangely works. Especially if you want people to get to know your characters more
I agree with most of your takes about the episodes. My opinion on the angels reaction to Charlie cursing is a phenomenon that happens to many people in minorities. As a black person I have watch my language and use no slang at work or it reflects poorly on my race. It means I'm just like all those stereotypes say. A demon around angels is under a lot of scrutiny, than an angel is.
LUCIFER IS VOICED BY JEREMY JORDAN 😍😍😍 HE IS SUCH A GOOD ACTOR
FACTS! HE IS!
Why does every Deadly Sin so far in this Universe have to be easy to disrespect like that? Moxxie can stand up to Asmodeous consequence free.
Loona can tell Beelzebub to back off without even so much as being threatened.
With Mammon i can understand the circumstances. Fizz had another Deadly Sin aka Asmodeous backing him up.
And now Lucifer is easy to bother like this? I know both shows have a element of comedy to it, but cmon. Let's have some more respect for the Kings of Hell. Yes?
One small change I would make to Sera and Emily would be to incorporate fire into their outfits; the Aramaic word 'seraph' means 'to burn.'
I do agree that the pacing is a little too fast. But I think about it like this: If there were scenes that would let you sit back and collect your thoughts for a while, that would just be useless filler aaaaand the show would take much more time to make like this. I think that with animation you have to make everything as compact as possible. Also I loved the You didn't know song. Especialy the part where every line was said by someone else. I don't know, maybe I don't mind the past pastyness of everything cuz of my ADHD xD but its a pitty that its so hard to make something EVERYONE will like.
Did anyone notice molly in heaven during the song lol