Move Aside LG G4… These Philips OLED TVs with MLA 2.0 Panel Could be The Brightest in 2024

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2024
  • The first OLED TVs confirmed to be using the second-generation MLA OLED panel capable of 3000 nits have been announced, namely the Philips flagship OLED+959 & OLED+909.
    Philips also launched the midrange Philips 809 OLED at its AV reveal event in Barcelona.
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  • @RealLifeTech187
    @RealLifeTech187 3 місяці тому +45

    This video mentions a lot of specs that other publications missed while keeping it compact and information dense. Great work 👏

    • @mmo5366
      @mmo5366 3 місяці тому +3

      There’s many reasons why Vincent is best of the best, this being one of them.

  • @ledooni
    @ledooni 3 місяці тому +59

    LG had it for 5 years and now we even get budget TVs with 4x 2.1 but MediaTek‘s flagship SOC still doesn‘t support it in 2024. Looks like the company needs some changes!

  • @TheSterlingArcher16
    @TheSterlingArcher16 3 місяці тому +128

    The fact that LG was the only manufacturer to have 4 HDMI 2.1 ports for 5 YEARS in the fast moving world of tech is insane.

    • @SterkeYerke5555
      @SterkeYerke5555 3 місяці тому +12

      They weren't the only one though. Samsung has had 4 HDMI 2.1 ports since 2022 on the S95B. I'm not sure if there were any lcd's that had them as well, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were. I just don't get why Mediatek has refused to make a chipset that supports it for so long

    • @overnightdelivery
      @overnightdelivery 3 місяці тому +5

      Yeah.. and many TVs and Monitors still only come with 2.0 ports 🙈

    • @rustler08
      @rustler08 3 місяці тому +8

      ​@@SterkeYerke5555Bruh, what? Since 2022 isn't five years.

    • @credoTI
      @credoTI 3 місяці тому +15

      @SterkeYerke5555 Dude I have a C9 with 4 HDMI 2.1 ports. It is a TV from 2019.

    • @SterkeYerke5555
      @SterkeYerke5555 3 місяці тому +2

      @@credoTI I know! It's only three years older than the S95B, not five

  • @Targetlockon
    @Targetlockon 3 місяці тому +6

    Concise with needed information to know, great video as always!
    New OLED TVs incoming

  • @ryanbaker7404
    @ryanbaker7404 3 місяці тому +5

    Please officially bring these back to the US, Phillips! Something tells my semi OCD brain that the AmbiLight would be exceedingly pleasant.

  • @ahassen1236
    @ahassen1236 3 місяці тому +5

    What a fantastic no nonsense review without the blah blah millionth time introductions. Mr Teoh!

  • @skywalkerranch
    @skywalkerranch 3 місяці тому +7

    Fantastic stuff as always.

  • @aznhandles
    @aznhandles 3 місяці тому +9

    The internal design speakers of 959 are beautifully made. This will omit the use of a soundbar and will complement the environment of the living room really well. However the size is not quite big enough. Wish they’d offer a 77 option as well.

    • @bwellington3001
      @bwellington3001 3 місяці тому +1

      Why cant they allow to connect rear speakers and sub to that integrated soundbar system? I mean it's good, but at the very least - some philips or BW branded should be compatible? Otherwise the offer kinda looks half assed, they reserve the best panels for the models with soundbar (like panasonic does) but wont let you to build around that soundbar system..

    • @SterkeYerke5555
      @SterkeYerke5555 3 місяці тому

      @@bwellington3001 I think something like that should be compatible, but it's probably still half arsed either way. I've been beta testing the 935 and 936 since 2020 and the output to the subwoofer - which Philips themselves bundled with the 935 we originally got! - still doesn't work properly. Worse still, audio and video still aren't synced with the integrated soundbar when using HDMI inputs, but Philips deny that that's a problem 😑

    • @bwellington3001
      @bwellington3001 3 місяці тому

      @@SterkeYerke5555 the true rears is what truly makes a difference. You can get away with not having “bounced” speakers, but actual rears are necessary for surround. I have a small room and have 930b samsung - if you install dolby access on PC the upmixing is very convincing.

    • @vlcthefish
      @vlcthefish 3 місяці тому

      @@bwellington3001 Because the soundbar is specifically built so you don't need rear speakers. Thats how that soundbar is designed. If they designed it so that you can add subs and rear speakers the actual sound bar would need to be designed differently which would not benefit the purpose of the front sound design.
      If you want rear speakers or a sub just save money and get a LG G4 and then get a separate tiny soundbar system. There are so many TV options I don't see why people complain about Phillips going after the high end all in one solution.

    • @mrbeckham666
      @mrbeckham666 27 днів тому

      this is very stupid, this soundbar won't beat the Samsung soundbar anyway. it won't beat a mid-range home theater either, so in my opinion it's a stupid solution. OLED is usually bought by people who expect a cinematic experience and there is no saving on sound, but what do you pay for a soundbar that you will not use. because you're not so naive that it's free, are you?😊

  • @remic2902
    @remic2902 2 місяці тому

    Thank you Vincent.

  • @JohnSmith-sw2zy
    @JohnSmith-sw2zy 3 місяці тому +2

    In the future looking at your tv will be like looking into the sun. We will be sitting with sunglasses.

  • @bigbadslimee
    @bigbadslimee 3 місяці тому +24

    Philips OLED TVs should be in the conversation for best TVs, I have a 807 and it's been amazing for me

    • @RiceCubeTech
      @RiceCubeTech 3 місяці тому +8

      They’re great TVs but the margin for “best” is slim because there’s so many great options now.

    • @ashokathegreat4534
      @ashokathegreat4534 3 місяці тому +3

      Philips lol….thats the last tv brand I would spend my money on. I would rather buy a knockoff PamPung Oled than a Philips. They should stick to lamps

    • @Miha-ii3dy
      @Miha-ii3dy 3 місяці тому +11

      @@ashokathegreat4534Did you just glitch?

    • @ashokathegreat4534
      @ashokathegreat4534 3 місяці тому

      @@Miha-ii3dy I did Miha…I did

    • @HayDXR-cx8mp
      @HayDXR-cx8mp 2 місяці тому

      @@Miha-ii3dy nah. 100% their tvs are trash. You always hear " for the price" but when compare it to same spec tvs. They suck. Philips is just behind in tech.

  • @pinocleen
    @pinocleen 3 місяці тому +4

    Nice hat Vincent.

  • @Pi22aPino
    @Pi22aPino 3 місяці тому +4

    Man I wish the 909 came without the soundbar or at least removable. It’s an eyesore if you already had one and diminishes the bottom Ambilight effect.

  • @McKluskie
    @McKluskie 3 місяці тому +2

    My preference is still oled but if you want to convince current LCD owners Fulfilled brightness is gonna have to be increased massively as it hasn't changed much at all since 2015, My current OLEDTV from 2015 Has a full free brightness of about 160 nits, this year's G3 lg's brightest offering only has a fulfilled value of 225 nits.

  • @bpowick
    @bpowick 3 місяці тому +2

    Vincent, I’d love it if you could do a review of Panasonic’s MX950 given it’s the first time they’ve dipped their toes into the mini LED market. I’d love to see how it stacks up against the competition given how excellent Panasonic’s image processing is.

  • @momorious
    @momorious 3 місяці тому +1

    2:03 is that list for both 909 or only for 959? Explicitly asking if the VRR Shadow Enhancer is limited to the dual-chip 959 or also coming to the 909?

  • @bjorn6706
    @bjorn6706 3 місяці тому

    How are those Philips Oled tvs for gaming?

  • @user-vz7hd7lc8r
    @user-vz7hd7lc8r 3 місяці тому

    Hello! Please advise me the best Mini-Led TV with excellent picture quality, contrast and sound? I am considering the brand Sony, LG, Samsung, some of them are the best models.

  • @C_C-
    @C_C- 3 місяці тому +10

    MLA on 42/50 Inch!!! RAH RAH RAH When do we want it, NOW

    • @Bogescianu
      @Bogescianu 3 місяці тому +1

      Still bad if full white brightness is bellow 200 nits. You plan to use it like a monitor ~120-160 nits full white is a joke and you are falling for it 😂

    • @jwhi419
      @jwhi419 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Bogescianufull white being low is fine. Still a con. It's not like you should be browsing facebook on an oled

    • @C_C-
      @C_C- 2 місяці тому

      ​@@jwhi419 nonsense, I have an oled in my phone, my laptop, and on my desktop. They all run facebook just fine

    • @jwhi419
      @jwhi419 2 місяці тому

      @@C_C- in fairness the phones are way brighter on white. They need to be for out doors. Not monitors though

  • @bobmorane7329
    @bobmorane7329 3 місяці тому +2

    Interessting but why do you talk about philips 2024'Tvs where you didnt show us about 2023 tv set ?

  • @zuti071
    @zuti071 3 місяці тому +1

    Any info about panels in Hisense OLED models for 2024 ?

  • @PeeGeeTips
    @PeeGeeTips 3 місяці тому +1

    Can anyone explain what an actual doubling of perceptual brightness difference would be when it comes to nit measurements for peak brightness? From my understanding it’s based on a logarithmic curve so 2000 nits isn’t perceptually twice as bright as 1000 nits, unlike photography where 1 stop of exposure increase would be a doubling in brightness, so I’m curious as to where can I see a curve that does represent this that would theoretically include up to some of the 10,000 nit displays demonstrated at CES this year, if my LG C2’s peak brightness is around the 800 nit mark, what nits would genuinely be a perceptual doubling or even tripling of peak brightness?

  • @geoffreywright9933
    @geoffreywright9933 3 місяці тому +4

    Been using an 806 for a couple of years now so got my eye on that 909 as a possible upgrade

    • @SWOTHDRA
      @SWOTHDRA 3 місяці тому

      Dont do it, you will loose hue integration

    • @Midorian7
      @Midorian7 3 місяці тому

      @@SWOTHDRA what

  • @jeffkardosjr.3825
    @jeffkardosjr.3825 3 місяці тому +2

    5:00 Frame insertion? Does it still have the undesired fuzzy cloud effect to go with it?

    • @SWOTHDRA
      @SWOTHDRA 3 місяці тому

      No it shows it doesnt

  • @kishin7
    @kishin7 3 місяці тому +4

    Too bad these aren't sold in the US. I'd love me a OLED with a B&W sound system built in.

  • @MA-jz4yc
    @MA-jz4yc 3 місяці тому +2

    Do coverage of nvidia rtx super resolution and hdr enhancement

  • @JonnyGTi180
    @JonnyGTi180 Місяць тому

    When will you review the current lineup? Always trust your Philips TV reviews 😀

  • @tomriddle2257
    @tomriddle2257 28 днів тому

    Is there an option without the soundbar?

  • @MeastroOreo
    @MeastroOreo 3 місяці тому +11

    Philips deserves more attention anyways. It's basically a LG panel with Ambilight and great functions, Android TV and great desig❤️

    • @BigPhi84
      @BigPhi84 3 місяці тому +6

      I wish that they were sold in America… 😢

    • @mateuszptaszynski5377
      @mateuszptaszynski5377 3 місяці тому

      OLED759 doesn't have Android

    • @mmo5366
      @mmo5366 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah shame about the android tv, but nothing’s perfect right? 😂

  • @sfortis
    @sfortis 3 місяці тому +2

    Next generation OLED TVs will be shipped with a pair of sunglasses.

  • @mrpicky1868
    @mrpicky1868 3 місяці тому

    any idea when you might review 42 c4 ?

  • @michaelwyckoff7593
    @michaelwyckoff7593 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow that's impressiive😊

  • @theonehandlethatgotaway
    @theonehandlethatgotaway 3 місяці тому +4

    I really, really wish Philips sold TVs in the USA :(

    • @IanAveryLeaf
      @IanAveryLeaf 3 місяці тому

      yeah its highly annoying that theres no ambilight OLEDs available in the USA, I'd be a day 1 buyer

  • @NoverianSnowCone
    @NoverianSnowCone 3 місяці тому +1

    Right, at this point if people are still complaining that 3000nits isn't bright enough. Please go stare at the sun.

  • @Kam-mv7tl
    @Kam-mv7tl 3 місяці тому +3

    Vincent… Please help end my turmoil !!
    It’s been 5 weeks, hours and hours and hours spent online - and I cant decide…
    LG G2 77 - £2700 - awesome, but Coil whine issues not covered under warranty and pot luck if you get it…
    LG G3 77 - £3400 - again awesome, but VRR flicker is an issue with many forums of people talking about it - looks like no fix and LG cant help.
    X95L - £3500 - awesome, bigger, but not OLED
    Or X90L ? More in budget, but on the above level?

    • @DaveThompsonfairlife4all
      @DaveThompsonfairlife4all 3 місяці тому +1

      "It’s been 5 weeks, hours and hours and hours spent online - and I cant decide… "
      Oh boy, I'm approaching my 2nd week and never taken so long buying an electrical item before. People probably buy cars quicker than they buy TVs, but I blame the manufacturers for hiding certain details costing us time in research. An example are the panel types (VA and IPS) that they themselves tell us are important, yet keep quiet about in the specs! Playing mind games like this is taking the fun out of it. Fed up with listening to all the sales speech too - I may crack the next time someone tells me a TV is "breath-taking", "stunning" and "beautiful" but not mentioning that there are plenty of cons.

  • @chibbyylol
    @chibbyylol 3 місяці тому +13

    United States has left the chat

  • @uVSthem
    @uVSthem 3 місяці тому +3

    When will Philips sell their OLEDs in North America? The last TV I had from them was a 30PW9100D/37.

    • @jnvivian
      @jnvivian 3 місяці тому +1

      Funai has the North American Philips license, and TP Vision has the Philips license for the rest of the world. I doubt that TP Vision will be able to sell its TVs in North America unless it uses a different brand, and setting up a whole new sales network for a new brand in North America from scratch is quite an expensive challenge that probably won’t turn a profit when there are so many other budget tier brands with big sales networks to compete against like Hisense, TCL, Vizio, and Funai’s Philips.

    • @uVSthem
      @uVSthem 3 місяці тому +2

      @@jnvivian So, if I’m understanding this correctly, they are pretty much two completely different companies that are Philips in name only and can only operate under the name Phillips in their parts of the world.

  • @user-mt4zr5kp7h
    @user-mt4zr5kp7h 3 місяці тому +7

    Lol... I really don't believe one more LED strip would have affected the price all that much.

    • @boscoliaw5702
      @boscoliaw5702 3 місяці тому

      I also think like that

    • @SWOTHDRA
      @SWOTHDRA 3 місяці тому

      Yup they are lying

  • @PSYCHOV3N0M
    @PSYCHOV3N0M 3 місяці тому +2

    The weakest TV in their lineup having 4 HDMI 2.1 ports but the flagship TV only having 2 HDMI 2.1 ports is so stupid. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @MrStrictlyOLED
    @MrStrictlyOLED 3 місяці тому

    LG is coming for the crown this year LG G4 should be KING OF 24 OLED

  • @thaddeus2447
    @thaddeus2447 3 місяці тому

    Guys need advice, should i get LG C3 now or wait for C4 ?

  • @ffpoke
    @ffpoke 3 місяці тому

    What is HDR format max on that Phillips

  • @76_SPZL
    @76_SPZL 3 місяці тому +21

    I don't need 4 HDMI 2.1 ports, I actually just need 3 but no one offers just 3 ;)

    • @pinocleen
      @pinocleen 3 місяці тому +6

      You would need one and a half Pentonics for that.

    • @justchilling4491
      @justchilling4491 3 місяці тому

      LGW OLED only had three 😂

    • @jaimepontes3236
      @jaimepontes3236 3 місяці тому

      2hdmi 2.1ports is enough as long as none of them is eArc as well.

  • @gymlife408
    @gymlife408 3 місяці тому

    Are you going to do a review of the movie picture quality of the Apple Vision Pro ?

  • @falkend1fox728
    @falkend1fox728 3 місяці тому +2

    My LG CX screen broke I'm upgrading with my income tax I was going to go with the LG G3 because of the better brightness but now seeing the G4 has 144hz I game on both consoles and PC so what do you guys think I should get for gaming alone.

    • @shanew7361
      @shanew7361 3 місяці тому +1

      I hear ya, my LG OLED 65B7P is on its second screen, and it too like the first screen, has significant burn in from CNBC unfortunately and it drives me nuts and I want a new TV.. I'm debating between the G3, Sony A95L, or the G4 or the newest Sony highest end 65 inch, lol I'm waiting for reviews to drop first and hopefully prices. I've never owned a Sony TV before, but I do own a PS5. I also have a 77"cx that I rarely watch in my great room. Bummer yours broke, what happened?

    • @nickjurkovic6831
      @nickjurkovic6831 2 місяці тому +2

      Consoles can’t even consistently do 120hz and even pro gamers can’t tell the difference between 120hz and 144hz.

    • @falkend1fox728
      @falkend1fox728 2 місяці тому

      @shanew7361 kids threw something across the room and it hit the very corner of it and it messed the whole screen up smh it was a sad sad day for sure

    • @falkend1fox728
      @falkend1fox728 2 місяці тому

      @nickjurkovic6831 on PS5 almost all of there exclusive titles are 120fps and if not all of them support VRR and unlocked framerate getting me anywhere between 80 to 110fps. Also I'm not wanting 144hz for smoothness I want it for input latency. The higher framerate you play at the lower the input latency is. I know I would have to have a beast of a PC to run 4k 120fps or even 144 in that matter but it's better to go ahead and future proof if you ask me. It's nice to know I have 144hz option if I want it know what I mean. I went with the 65" LG G3 I couldn't wait any longer.

  • @trumpetmusic5672
    @trumpetmusic5672 3 місяці тому

    Vincent could you please do a video on DTM on Sony TV's? Everyone likes to say that you should just use HGIG but nobody has come up with a solution for Sony. After setting up HDR on the PS5 with DTM off, do you then turn it back on? If not, how do you fix games looking so dark with DTM off? Also, I have tried adjusting brightness in-game on a couple of games and it washes the picture out, any suggestions? Thanks!

  • @mattk5020
    @mattk5020 3 місяці тому

    Is there going to be a Sony A95M

  • @orionv75
    @orionv75 3 місяці тому +6

    5 years on and they are still playing catch up! If they moved the eArc over to one of the hdmi 2.0 ports it would make life easier for those who need the 2 * 2.1 ports..

    • @hELLLcs
      @hELLLcs 3 місяці тому +3

      no they can't do that because then it makes your high end receiver worthless. For people with receiver with hdmi 2.1 they need the EARC port to be hdmi 2.1.

    • @uusrikas
      @uusrikas 3 місяці тому

      My philips 855 oled as all hdmi ports as arc ports so you can use all of them

    • @orionv75
      @orionv75 3 місяці тому

      @@hELLLcs my old Yamaha rx2070 avr was hdmi 2.0b and a firmware upgrade made it eArc, so I can’t see why it’s not do-able

    • @CyberWoogy
      @CyberWoogy 3 місяці тому

      @@orionv75it still doesn’t work for receivers with HDMI 2.1 on-board that people connect other HDMI 2.1 devices to it such as next gen consoles.

  • @codster9634
    @codster9634 3 місяці тому

    When you get a chance, please do a video on the best Picture settings for ps5 and series x for the lgc3

  • @giogamer4825
    @giogamer4825 3 місяці тому +2

    Vincent, any help/talk with Samsung regarding the Blackouts on the S90/S95C? It is not only for Pc gamers but also Console players...people are "afraid" if the 2024 tv will have same issues...any update on this from your side? Maybe a video?

    • @pinocleen
      @pinocleen 3 місяці тому

      Most likely cables or drivers imho.

    • @tomblade
      @tomblade 3 місяці тому +1

      Just noticed this on my friend's new s90c! Really weird and super annoying! Definitely not a cable problem.

    • @giogamer4825
      @giogamer4825 3 місяці тому +1

      @@pinocleen No, as for example with the standard Ps5 HDMI cable it works without problem on a LG CX Tv, but on Samsung S95C it has black outs

    • @pinocleen
      @pinocleen 3 місяці тому

      @@giogamer4825 My Samsung TV blackouts stopped ever since I've replaced my expensive, ultra-high speed 4k hdmi cable with FIBBR brand optical product.
      They are also very sensitive to cable length, and many don't work properly when over 1.5 meters, part of the problem is that certifications process only tests them at 1m lengths..

    • @tomblade
      @tomblade 3 місяці тому

      @@PaulC-xv4zr Nope, it's also on the S90C. So it has nothing to do with the one connect box. It's definitely software related.

  • @mattspeer01
    @mattspeer01 3 місяці тому

    I actually need 5 HDMI 2.1 ports (really four plus one HDMI 2.0). My Sonos Arc, PS5, Apple TV, and Switch all are plugged into my C2, while my Series X (the least used of my components) is relegated to being in the office connect to the CX I use as my gaming PC monitor. Just moved away from using a receiver when I got the C2, and it has been amazing. Never plan on going back, but it does suck only having 4 ports on the C2 and really all TVs.

    • @smashterpiece
      @smashterpiece 3 місяці тому +3

      Why do you need it for the Switch when it can’t run games at 4k/120fps?

    • @mattspeer01
      @mattspeer01 3 місяці тому

      @@smashterpiece that’s why I said I really need four 2.1s and one 2.0 (for the Switch), but it’s the family room TV and the Switch is by far the most used console we own… so the Series X got the boot.

    • @tomblade
      @tomblade 3 місяці тому +2

      You don't need hdmi 2.1 for Apple TV either

    • @mattspeer01
      @mattspeer01 3 місяці тому +2

      @@tomblade yeah that’s a strange one. Has an HDMI 2.1 port but doesn’t seem to currently take advantage of any 2.1 features.

    • @pinocleen
      @pinocleen 3 місяці тому

      @@mattspeer01 They're the same ports though..

  • @SPiritR3aver
    @SPiritR3aver 3 місяці тому +3

    Make a video for quantum dot LCD tv's please.

  • @jcnba28
    @jcnba28 3 місяці тому +6

    That horrible thick base is an eyesore though.

  • @chiagoji5105
    @chiagoji5105 3 місяці тому +2

    559 sounds like a Ferrari ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @charaznable8072
    @charaznable8072 2 місяці тому

    These will be great living room tv's but I just don't see me putting this in my dark bedroom.

  • @johanmelis12
    @johanmelis12 3 місяці тому +11

    Lg g4 should be a beast with this panel

    • @Bogescianu
      @Bogescianu 3 місяці тому +1

      Still a joke if they don't address the laughable full white brightness 🤡. All oleds will be until they do that

    • @koczaioandaniel4014
      @koczaioandaniel4014 3 місяці тому +6

      @@Bogescianu if you like to watch on your TV only a white image, then yes OLEDs, are not for you.

    • @Bogescianu
      @Bogescianu 3 місяці тому

      @@koczaioandaniel4014 I have bought 3 oleds over the years, currently using a Sony a95k, the brightness is not enough in games when is day time. I know what I say. Tried to get an oled monitor Dell aw3423dwf, a joke in desktop use and games that don't have hdr and night time, again I'm right. They are not there for me to upgrade in the next 5 years if they do this bulshit with the 3%... Had oleds for more than 7 years now.

    • @Bogescianu
      @Bogescianu 3 місяці тому

      @@koczaioandaniel4014had oleds for more than 7 years, currently using Sony a95k, the creme of his year. Not bashing oled because they are a blessing over lcds, but in sdr or in hdr games in-game day time is bad, like real bad imo. We can see they can go brighter on 3% but on full white they stick to bellow 160 nits which is infuriating and dumb. Not to speak about oleds monitors which are the biggest joke, I bought a Dell aw3423dwf and had to return it in just 2 days because I had to paint my windows black to even see something in desktop use. I know what I'm saying, if this is not a problem for you is wrong. I expect more of the gamers or TV enjoyers, the hype is not founded for someone that used the best for multiple years.

    • @pawnstar365
      @pawnstar365 3 місяці тому +1

      Isn't the g4 supposed to be much brighter than the g3 though? ​@@Bogescianu

  • @momorious
    @momorious 3 місяці тому +1

    1:30 is the Detail Enhancer Feature exclusive to the dual-chip 959 or also coming to the 909?

    • @hdtvtest
      @hdtvtest  3 місяці тому +2

      @momorious: The Detail Enhancer feature is implemented by LG Display on the upgraded MLA+/ META 2.0 panel, and so will be present on both the Philips 959 & 909.

    • @Bogescianu
      @Bogescianu 3 місяці тому

      @@hdtvtestwhy don't you understand or if you do, ask the TV makers to address the laughable full white brightness? All of you take us for idiots I think, 300 nits full white should be a minimum in my opinion or any opinion that matters regarding the oled tvs or monitors. All this race for going for brighter things on the 3% window is infuriating asf when we need to create a cave to see things in full white 😂🤡. At least they are going for 200 nits now, maybe in 2030 we will get a ~350 nits full white and 1000 peak 25% (just described the perfect oled).

    • @SWOTHDRA
      @SWOTHDRA 3 місяці тому

      ​@@hdtvtestwill the 909 or 809 support philips hue out of the box like the 807 and 887????

  • @ashokathegreat4534
    @ashokathegreat4534 3 місяці тому

    Hi Vincent, which tv would you recommend for the same price:
    Samsung S95B or Panasonic LZ1000?

  • @Sideways_Singh
    @Sideways_Singh 3 місяці тому

    If the color volume cant match qd-oled it wont matter. Lg did say this will boost color volume so lets see.

  • @amitavraja3385
    @amitavraja3385 3 місяці тому +3

    In this video, though, it’s about Phillips TV, Vincent revealed that MLA technology comes in two brightness flavours which other people did not mention or even know, so that’s quite interesting to hear.

  • @jonathansaindon788
    @jonathansaindon788 2 місяці тому

    I keep hearing « The OLED Plasma » Pick a technology already 😂

  • @AchtungEnglander
    @AchtungEnglander 3 місяці тому +7

    I cannot stress enough to TV makers - we can never have enough HDMI ports. On my TV alone I need 7.

    • @HarleyN93
      @HarleyN93 3 місяці тому +1

      Cap

    • @MrTomaat23
      @MrTomaat23 3 місяці тому +4

      Do you understand that you are an exception to the rule. I guess 99% of most people need no more than the 4 ports provided.
      So is it logical to demand a more expensive TV's because YOU want more.
      Or is it more logical that you and the rest of the 1% buy an HDMI-switcher?
      Some will love to see:
      -more Ypbpr ports and or more RCA connectors
      -A DP port
      -better speakers
      But most won't.
      Things are rarilty built to satisfy the minority.

    • @AchtungEnglander
      @AchtungEnglander 3 місяці тому +4

      @@MrTomaat23 come down dear, it was made more in jest than seriousness. Chillax.

    • @MrTomaat23
      @MrTomaat23 3 місяці тому

      ​@@AchtungEnglander
      That is the problem on the internet.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
      There is no way to understand if your comment is a joke or not. So don't tell me to chillax, make clear that it is a joke, or understand that a lot of people won't see it as a jest.
      Explain me how somebody who actually isnt joking about the matter would've stated the matter vs. what you said.
      See you can't.
      So you can always win this one. Say something that could be a joke or not, and once someone reacts thinking its not a joke you just say: Chillax dude.
      Maybe that wasnt your intent, but don't tell me to chillax because I didnt understand (and had no reason too) you made a joke. That's deeply annoying.

    • @AchtungEnglander
      @AchtungEnglander 3 місяці тому

      @@MrTomaat23 OK OK , take it easy

  • @sifisflisk7408
    @sifisflisk7408 3 місяці тому

    Vincent please call out Samsung maybe they will here you.
    My new Samsung 65" S95C OLED TV, experiences seemingly random 2-5 second drop outs of both video and audio while trying to play PlayStation 5. I have tried multiple certified 2.1 HDMI cables in multiple ports on my One Connect Box, and this has not changed the situation. When connecting to ps5 I experience black screen and no signal situation when game mode on is prompt . I'm not alone on this either, as there are several people on Reddit who are also mentioning experiencing the same issue.

  • @DG1TAL
    @DG1TAL 3 місяці тому

    “5.1.2 integrated sound system discreetly housed within the TV‘s chassis” - sure, that’s totally what 5.1.2 means. 😅

  • @curtisbme
    @curtisbme 3 місяці тому +1

    3% window, not 10%? At super high/inaccurate white point? Why even report the claim that it can do 3000 nits when it is effectively BS?

  • @IDDQD1984
    @IDDQD1984 3 місяці тому +2

    909 have 4 sided ambilights, cant wait to buy it. Hopelly before BF 2024.

  • @hastensavoir7782
    @hastensavoir7782 2 місяці тому

    Philips is an overnight sensation type of brand. Vinny will talk about it enthusiastically for a short time then completely lost track of it for the rest of the year 😢

  • @kineahora8736
    @kineahora8736 3 місяці тому +2

    How do you think they compare to the third generation QD-OLED panels announced by Samsung also said to be capable of 3000 nits?
    Also, why all this focus on peak brightness rather than full white brightness? I have a very, very bright room and my TV will be behind the mirror that blocks a decent bit of light. So I really need a lot of practical brightness and exactly 55” to fit in the hole in the wall, no bigger.
    Do I simply have to use a mini-LED, or will the 2024 OLEDs finally be bright enough? Because I really like the look of this OLED technology better every time I compare them to backlit LCD crystals, even the best most modern mini LED backlight arrays… I just need more brightness.

  • @ChrisDaytrader
    @ChrisDaytrader 3 місяці тому +9

    I want display ports on tv's also.

    • @SterkeYerke5555
      @SterkeYerke5555 3 місяці тому +1

      The Pioneer Kuro series had that. Well, physically at least.

  • @frankleitao9325
    @frankleitao9325 3 місяці тому +1

    This is all good and well but Philips TVs are not available in the United States.

    • @chadsteitzer7279
      @chadsteitzer7279 3 місяці тому

      You can buy Philips in Canada but not OLEDS...

  • @grisehue
    @grisehue 3 місяці тому

    Does anybody know if there is a TV with gigabit ethernet yet?

  • @Obscho
    @Obscho 3 місяці тому +2

    I mean, I have all the devices (PS5, Xbox and PC), but I just connected it to my Denon AVR-X2800H and an eARC connection - Am I missing anything, if I do not connect them directly? DolbyVision seems to work fine and my display is 120hz, so I should be fine I think.

    • @pinocleen
      @pinocleen 3 місяці тому

      All at full 48gbps and no cabling issues?

  • @JambiPicea
    @JambiPicea 3 місяці тому

    Only 65 'when a lot of people who care about such technic details are looking for bigger screens. I do not understand

  • @Kia-qo7nd
    @Kia-qo7nd 3 місяці тому

    Hi, I’m looking to buy a gaming montitor 32inch for a xbox series x but I’m so confused on which ones are good I want to spend around £1,000 give or take. I care about picture quality… I read that OLEDs don’t have a long life span. Please help thanks

  • @amitavraja3385
    @amitavraja3385 3 місяці тому +1

    Phillips TV, are not made by the original Phillips company, Phillips had been bought by another third-party company who use the Phillips name, so I don’t regard Phillips highly, compared to other mainstream TV companies

  • @lailanis1
    @lailanis1 3 місяці тому

    Does that mean philips will have panels with 3k nits, LG will have 2.3k nit pannels? Or maybe first batch for G4/M4 will have 2.3K nit panels, later on we will see newer G4/M4 with 3k nit panels!

  • @rynomuncher
    @rynomuncher 3 місяці тому

    OK so here's the plan Philips: drop the B&W speakers from the 959 and put the cost into the 4 sided lense array ambilight and then come back to Australia. Thank you thank you

  • @sj460162
    @sj460162 3 місяці тому

    Oooh no....G4 or now...Philips???

  • @JohnDoe-pc9qf
    @JohnDoe-pc9qf 3 місяці тому +4

    It's so deceptive to refer to an OLED as bright. Tell me what it's full field peak brightness capabilities are. I bet it can't even touch 300 nits which is pathetic. AV reviewers are so disingenuous, they don't show you the whole picture, just what the manufacturers want you to see.

    • @DM-rc4yu
      @DM-rc4yu 3 місяці тому

      Plus they go on about "improvement" in brightness every year, as if differences aren't pretty much negligible. This channel makes it sound like every new model is much better than the previous.

  • @we8463
    @we8463 3 місяці тому

    I am waiting until Blue Phosphorescent is implemented in 2025

  • @Justin-ym5ce
    @Justin-ym5ce 3 місяці тому

    How I do get my Panasonic 2000 over in the US?? Anyone know?

  • @PanDzikoski
    @PanDzikoski 3 місяці тому +2

    As a Philips 77oled937 owner I truly don’t get the 2024. The “flagship” is now 65 inch max with 3 sided ambilight. While mid range 909 is up to 77 inch with 4 sided ambilght. Can’t figure the logic behind this.

    • @rynomuncher
      @rynomuncher 3 місяці тому +1

      Like Vincent said, they're doing some sort of lense array on the over the LEDs. Could very well be BS that one more side "would cost too much" but there is clear logic here

  • @ford1546
    @ford1546 3 місяці тому

    the sound quality out of the speaker is incredibly poor on new screens. Record bad sound.
    the experience comes from LG OLED.

  • @kaiserfakinaway5909
    @kaiserfakinaway5909 3 місяці тому +2

    that weird moment when the single entry level chip has more connection inputs than dual "flagship" chips lmao
    Also, what's the point of the 959 compared to the 909? I only se an increase in the speaker channels and that's it, so better audio? Buying a standalone soundbar could be a good alternative if the price is high

  • @rossimaddog2498
    @rossimaddog2498 3 місяці тому

    Phillips use lg display. So it's half a lg with 4x hmi 2.1 ports.🎉

  • @htc9080
    @htc9080 3 місяці тому +1

    ambilight is an interesting feature really enhanced immersive experience especially in JP animation I would pay for it, but it looks like no big differnece on 2024 model?

  • @matheusmarin9337
    @matheusmarin9337 3 місяці тому

    Hey, could you make a video about AW3225QF?

  • @roccobruno8027
    @roccobruno8027 3 місяці тому +1

    Regrettably making the picture brighter still doesn't improve its ability to reproduce the wider colour gamut that QD-OLED are capable of.

  • @BAJF93
    @BAJF93 3 місяці тому

    3000 nits at 10000 K sounds more like 2000 nits after calibration.

  • @HungryEatNow
    @HungryEatNow 2 місяці тому

    UA-cam cancelled your videos from tags 😂

  • @MirelRC
    @MirelRC 3 місяці тому

    It's funny to see how the lowest-end of Philips OLEDs have 4x HDMI 2.1 and the others have only 2x HDMI 2.1.

  • @irun2sanaxox
    @irun2sanaxox 3 місяці тому

    i wish they made lg g4 42 inch

  • @Hobo_X
    @Hobo_X 3 місяці тому +2

    Really? They had to keep costs under control by cutting a bottom row of RGB LEDs used for the built-in bias lighting? Lol sounds like BS

  • @bb_lou
    @bb_lou 3 місяці тому

    kinda unrelated but I've always thought that using RGB logos and stuff was dumb and that manufacturers should just make it sync to the content to blend it in to the surroundings, but actually now that I see it being done I'm not so sure i like how it looks. It feels more distracting to me whenever the image and color off screen dont match than any benefits for immersion or anything... Maybe its different in person and maybe it'll get better in the future but for right now, I dont know.

    • @varsas10
      @varsas10 3 місяці тому

      I can see ambilight being fun for some sports and game shows, and I expect my children would love it for cartoons. For 'proper' film watching ambilight is great for creating a D95 backlight.

  • @tonymilicevic2196
    @tonymilicevic2196 3 місяці тому

    LG G4 would be a BEAST tv if they make better motion like Sony, no VRR flickering, no pink tint issues, WebOS is super cool unlike f......Tizen garbage

  • @neilcameron434
    @neilcameron434 3 місяці тому +1

    If you watch movies at night, is 3000 nits not going to feel insanely bright? I struggle with my qd oled on anything more than 50% brightness on an evening. Is it just me or are these brightness levels meant for brighter rooms?

    • @neocodex3
      @neocodex3 3 місяці тому +6

      No. A typical LCD will still have brighter 100% window. 3000 is only at peak 1%, or as advertised 4%. It's very small details. Besides, how we perceive brightness nits does not work like that. You will not feel the same impact going from 1000 to 2000 as you do from 300 to 800. It will still be the best for dark rooms. It's not even close to real life brightness outside or how bright your lamps can get. Just try looking at them directly.

  • @walker2006au
    @walker2006au 3 місяці тому

    I don't care about peak brightness at 3% windows just give me an oled that can hold 400 nits at 100% white window. That's where oleds fall behind... existing ones are plenty bright in small windows..
    There is a dell laptop that can already do this with its oled but for some reason LG display and Samsung display have super cautious ABL.

  • @IV-A
    @IV-A 3 місяці тому

    I only want to connect 1 pc, 1 ps5 pro , 1 e arc system to a tv.
    Lucky my 4 years old lg b9 can do it without switching cables every time I want to play pc.
    How the hell multi thousand tvs cant do it.

  • @CinemaPunk
    @CinemaPunk 3 місяці тому

    phillips tvs arent a usa product no phillips tvs are even sold in america

  • @kevingood2565
    @kevingood2565 3 місяці тому +2

    this high nit/lumen HDR TV-s ruin your eyes permanently, try to use them at the lowest brightness that is still comfortable...

    • @ismiismael
      @ismiismael 3 місяці тому +1

      How do you know ??