"are video games still fun?" yes of course they are guy go play an indie game or something ----- Follow me elsewhere: / antoguino or don't, its probably better if you don't
sorry for unpinning the funny comment but i thought it’d be cool to address a few arguments that deserve to be recognized 1. “We’re talking about AAA” While I personally think that AAA games are still doing fairly good, with tons of hits coming out, I can understand the sentiment that companies like ubisoft are creating with insane pricing systems, however they don’t reflect the whole game industry, and lots of AAAs are putting out good games. 2. “Just focusing on the good is unproductive and you need to criticize the bad as well.” This one is pretty valid, I think it’s fairly reasonable to criticize bad and uplift good, but in doing so you have to acknowledge that for every single era of gaming, we’ve been doing that. Yes, of course there are more garbage games, but there are also more great games, the ratio hasn’t changed, but the volume has. 3. “X Franchise has gone down the shitter, what do?” I empathize with this one, and that’s what the suicide squad story was supposed to be for. I get that when a franchise you care about gets all scummy and greedy that it sucks, but unfortunately you just need to vote with your wallet and move on. It really does suck, but again, it doesn’t mean that video games are dead, it just means it’s time for new things to take their place. 4. “That’s just like, your opinion, man” True‼️ Just as much as I am allowed to convey my opinion that I think video games are better than ever, you’re allowed to disagree, because there ARE valid reasons to that side of the argument. I just think branching out helped me out a lot and I think it’d help you guys too. Your opinion isn’t valid if you’re crying about diversity though, look inside yourself and really ask yourself why you’re mad about that 5. “The gaming is dead crowd doesn’t actually mean gaming is dead.” I get that it’s hyperbole, but I feel like it’s not super helpful to just say that “gaming is dead” when we’ve get bangers coming out left and right, and I’d say that the majority of games people remember from the last few years would be good ones 6. "It's always the same answer 'just play indie games'" You did not watch the video buddy i’ll be updating this as i see more interesting arguments, maybe ill make a video idk
Tears of the kingdom was just overhyped dlc, super Mario needs a hiatus, there's too many dark souls clones, n indie games either try to remake a classic or are gimmick games for streamers. Every big dev wants live service, turning games into work. Also, the point u made about "just play the game everyone else thinks is cool" is wild. Cannot believe u thought that was a good take. Lol. Just conform, right? That's how we got to where we are. By following the trends
@@peighnesshonourchign9164”Just play the game everyone thinks is cool”. This is not a bad take at all it makes complete sense.If you’re hating media like games or whatever or think the genre isn’t the same anymore maybe you could look at actual popular and look up why their popular? Like let’s say I think single player first person shooters are a boring genre. It’s all military propaganda junk or whatever the fuck you want to think. You could easily look up popular fps that people love like Half life 2,Doom eternal, and Bioshock 1. Playing a game everyone likes isn’t a bad thing and saying that as advice isn’t bad at all it’s logical as fuck. Why wouldn’t you want to look into things that well received and considered popular. Then again I shouldn’t expect logic from someone with a dumbass username.Seriously why don’t your take your crappy takes to some subreddit like mohair in action or whatever it’s called.
@@peighnesshonourchign9164 i guess it was a bit odd to say it that way, it's more of me saying that when there's universal acclaim for a certain game, you should try it, it's a good way to find games that you might like. I'm not saying to "just conform" but rather to look on the bright side and see where it takes you
Mostly yes but it is true All of the gaming genre has been perfected in the past you want the best stealth game? You wont find it in this era Best shooter ? Good luck with all the battle royale clones garbage that recycle fortrash every time Best rpg? You wont find it now As a gamer that played both era i can easily testify that this era of gaming is just not it There is too many cash grab scam practice greed and manipulation on top of having no creativity and innovation You cant say gaming is better than ever just to agree with those point 2 min after
@BlackJacked wich lead you to the old school stuff again proving the point of these videos FIFA MADDEN 2K COD Battle royales has always been garbage games for frauds But you guys always target these people so you avoid facing the facts that every indie game is a worse version of old games Hollow knight is a pathetic attempt at ripping off castlevania/metroid and fail miserably And thats the best indie game according to the indie crowds If this is what best indie can do idk what they will when fighters rts and other quality gaming genre are on the table Indie games dont bring nothing new to the table if you have grear taste in games its just worse version of old stuff
@@Hajimeme7 Considering Hollow Night has a 90% on Metacritic, 9.4/10 on IGN, 10/10 on Steam, and 4.8 on google reviews, it's safe to say that your opinion doesn't exactly reflect popular consensus now doesn't it.
@@Hajimeme7 Gloomwood is a very good stealth game in this era. CS2 and PUBG are great shooters in this era. Baldurs Gate 3 is one of the best RPGs in this era. There are more fantastic indie and AA games than AAA cash grab slop and it's not hard to find.
I love me DEI hires and diverse transgender characters and ugly woman in my video game it’s totally normal and not been made more popular over the last couple years to push certain agendas
Or especially Halo 3, as if everything was perfect back then (spoiler no it was not, you had to buy map packs or you got screwed in multiplayer since you couldn't matchmake with those who had the extra maps and you didn't)
>no microtransactions >no battle pass >no barebones launches >no pay to win weapons and $20 skins >No hellish grinds that unironically take 80 years to unlock everything without opening up your wallet >no skill based match making >no picking from 6 different editions ranging from $60 to $150 trying to rack your brain on wtf you even want. Lord knows I'm forgetting more BS Multiplayer gaming was better in the 360/PS3 era. It's not even a contest.
Tbh those 3 games were the holy trinity back in the day and I agree those times were good. But there's soo many people who are stuck in that mindset now, people just gotta step out of their comfort zone and play different games other than Action, adventure and shooters.
To be fair GTA and Minecraft are fun, casual games can be fun. Cod is right for me since I have no idea why they publish the same game every year and people still play it only to complain. At least the other 2 is only one game.
@@rency1803it's not that they can't be fun, it's that when you limit your range to even just one genre of gaming you're bound to get bored, but that's not a reflection on gaming that's a reflection on the gamer.
@@DustyEchozyplay terraria,play ultrakill,play pizza tower,play hi fu rush there are so many AMAZING games nowadays made by indie developers or small studios,lethal company,metal gear rising,TF2,Porta etc...
@@BlackJackedwich lead you to the old school stuff again proving the point of these videos FIFA MADDEN 2K COD Battle royales has always been garbage games for frauds But you guys always target these people so you avoid facing the facts that every indie game is a worse version of old games Hollow knight is a pathetic attempt at ripping off castlevania/metroid and fail miserably And thats the best indie game according to the indie crowds If this is what best indie can do idk what they will when fighters rts and other quality gaming genre are on the table Indie games dont bring nothing new to the table if you have grear taste in games its just worse version of old stuff
@@Hajimeme7Cant lie your spittin facts whenever I look at the indie scene all I see are cozy farming sims, metroidvania, side-scroller rouge-likes, isometric rouge-likes.etc Sure not *all* indie games fit into these catagories. But man do you have to wade through some utter shit before you find anything good. Its the same whenever I look at AAA games and think MTX and battlepasses. Im sick of repitition and a lack of true innovation, its not even like the bar is that damn high either. Helldivers 2 gave us something new in terms if gameplay loops by creating an extraction shooter thats limited to a smaller arena with stratagems that vary in effectiveness depending on the kind if mission your playing which effectivley eliminates any kind of meta from spawning. Its a pretty clever solution to an issue every multiplayer game has had for a long time. Its a pretty clever new loop thats fun, engaging and rewarding to partake in, especially considering its also a 'live service' title. But next to Helldivers I just dont see much that looks like true innovation. Often times games on all sides of the front just create a unique gimmik that reframes already existing gameplay loops, yet these gimmiks somehow never find their way into a sequel or end up forgotten about by the wider industry. Small innovations just dont cut it anymore in my book. This is why people still flock to first party nintendo titles, because they do what indie games do, but just significantly better. Tell me, can you imagine any indie 3D platformer overtaking Mario Odyseey in quality:quantity ratio? Didnt think so. The point and case is that even Odyseey is just an amalgamation of ideas and gimmiks. But they fit so many in, and they blend so seamlessly, to the point that its acceptable to say that the smaller innovations coalesce and make the overall game innovative. Outside of these rare 1st party nintendo games and the odd handful of good AAA games that come out a year, the games industry sorta sucks.
"Why aren't games fun anymore?" Maybe you could play more than two games? Most of these people play minecraft or the same tired shooter for over a decade, then wonder why its boring to them. Get out of your comfort zone, trust me, it helps.
This is facts, been playing shooters for more than a decade and nowadays, most are just f2p and/or you have to sweat really hard to get anywhere so it got boring really fast. Starting checking out other kind of games on game pass like Hellblade 1 and was hooked. Definitely get out your comfort zone
The only good “Gaming isn’t fun anymore” video is Stryxo’s because it says exactly what you said, gaming isn’t fun anymore because you’re limiting yourself to a few genres.
It's the biggest problem with nostalgia in my eyes. Yes it can be nice to reminisce on the past but we can't go back in time, so why neglect the future?
@@Dr.Oofers this whole video is just anti contrarian soyjak bs. Instead of acknowledging that we should push back against game developers, his solution is to just play shitty indie games. The only people who like this stuff are Nintendo fans, as most indie games that are “praised” are Nintendo rip offs. No wonder his video got pushed in the algorithms, it’s about as corporate and bootlicking you can get. “Video games don’t suck your the problem” is all this video is. I can vouch for the fact that video games were made better back then, it’s not just a nostalgia act. I wasn’t allowed to play these games when I was little, so when I finally played them it blew everything modern day out of the water. I never thought I would like fallout, but new Vegas is more interesting than anything that has come out in the past few years. That game was made in 18 months, yet triple A studios need 3 years to make a game not anywhere near as memorable. I made a whole counter video to this, because this is nothing more than neckbeard garbage. Just using the current shitty state of gaming to push anime and indie crap
If the games you have suck, find better games. We have the internet, we have the gaming community, we have indie developers releasing bangers for pennies on the dollar. There is no excuse to not find a game that fits your taste.
Only excuse is stubbornness and an unwillingness to embrace other people's thoughts and feelings cause they have a different identity from yourself, as do the games... both being unfamiliar, OR worse, deemed "too accepted by the mainstream and normies" cause the way they may see it, the moment they embrace the mainstream and normies, is the moment they die... yay some crazy sounding stuff there, but I can't blame'em fully, I got some of that in me too! But I can atleast recognize it, and not make a video that expresses opinions based entirely on my values alone without looking at the bigger picture.
THATS EXZCTLY WHAT IM SAYING none of those new games do anything special at all Elden ring is supposedly the best of its era(its judst dark souls 3 with open world) BUT THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT GAMING AS A WHOLE 😂 these people dont get that the golden era was pure innovation NEW IDEAS QUALITY LEFT ZND RIGHT DEPTH COMPLEXITY CREATIVITY When do we get inception of those franchise ??? In the 2020s ?!??! NOPE NONE OF THE CURRENT DEV HAVE THE LEVEL OF THOSE OLDER ERA DEV THAT MADE THE INDUSTRY Its blatant obvious that modern gaming stand no chance even on the video the guy play a xbox 360 game proving our point again And indie games are just worse version of already better games Hollow knight was just a metroid/castlevania rip off that cant compare facts Indie fanboys refuse to accept that gaming died after the best devs quit and the era changed
Funny how they didn’t get bored for like 3 gaming generations before but now it’s because they keep playing the same games they enjoyed forever ? You guys just don’t want to admit games are far worse now.
@@kang6914 I like playing games I like and know when to put them down when I don't like them anymore, Modern games from a shooter genre are better than a 20 year old shooter. The only time where modern games are awful are when you need to pay 35 dollars for more story in a half complete game that was 60 dollars *cough cough* pokemon *cough.* (I'd love to hear you're take on it though, I'm interested in your view.)
@@LimeLoaf yeah from a technical standpoint probably most newer games are far more advanced than they were 20 years ago. I don’t know if I would necessarily say they are overall better games though just because of these advances. When you factor in how much they would put into a lot of games back then for just one price. Just as you mentioned there’s been a lot of greed with paid releases still requiring a lot more spending to fully enjoy the experience but honestly that’s been happening for quite a while now I would say ever since online play became popular and all the extra DLC stuff started releasing. Speaking of shooter games maybe like COD for an example I do think were a lot better overall in many different ways than we have now even with all the newer improvements. Maybe not “20 years ago” per say but somewhere around 15 years ago specifically. That’s a whole other debate to be had though and honestly just comes down to which games you prefer but also I know COD is just one franchise I’m just using that as an example.
Usually games are fun for me at first, then they get boring, and I stop playing for a few months. Then it gets fun again, and I play for the next few months.
It's very annoying to see someone complain about EA, Activision, and Ubisoft and then pretend like as if all videogames are bad now, especially since we've gotten so many good games last year
The most common argument these folks often say when you tell 'em to stay away from AAA trash and play indies is "So many of them are just copies and rip offs of other games" or "Where should I even be looking for them?" These people are so nearsighted they don't even bother to use glasses (that being Google). All they need to do is type 'indie [genre] games [year]'. It will *never* be any simpler.
Steam exists for a reason and yet they still complain. I understand complaining about shitty AAA games and how shit quality a lot of them can be but there are some seriously awesome indie games
Saying "try indie games" isn't really the best pointer. It's about as broad as just saying "try video games". There's tons of bad stuff in that scene. People need actual recommendations if they're telling you that they don't know where to start. If I Google "indie RPG", the quality of anything I might click on is gonna be all over the place.
@@Panimal98 Yeah, I've been playing apex with friends for a few months now and I'm having a blast. Don't care too much about rank, as long as I'm in gold or plat I'm happy.
Aye! People whine about how "Minecraft beta was SOOO much better than modern minecraft!" While i can see where these lads are coming from...As a player who grew up playing the betas, I gotta say no, Minecraft beta was NOT better than modern minecraft. I'll admit, its a subjective thing, but still, They act like all modern versions are trash. Like, Hello? You guys spent a decade asking for an update to caves and then WHINE about the update not feeling like a minecraft version from 10 YEARS AGO. It gets tiring, Y'know? And this is coming from a guy who's been enjoying minecraft since beta back in 2011.
that’s what I’m saying, while I may not enjoy Minecraft like I used to, it’s so much fun to play with all the new stuff they’ve added these last few years, and I’m really excited to play it again with the boys when I finally get in the mood again
I mean, I do still think that the newest Minecraft updates are kinda lacking. The cave update didn’t even come out in one update, it had to be split in 2, even 3 updates if you count the Wild Update. Mojang overpromised and underdelivered, and ever since then Minecraft updates fell off. Minecraft is still by no means dead or not fun to play anymore (you can play modded Minecraft, which is getting better each passing year), it’s just that the recent updates are kinda lackluster.
The game is better now, objectively. There is more content and therefore more stuff to do, and nothing from the old game was removed. But the community was better back then. Thats undeniable. Minecraft had a culture surrounding it in its early days that has yet to be replicated
I like older versions of Minecraft as much as the newer ones, I do go back to beta sometimes but tbh I just don't play Minecraft that much anymore, but yeah I like older MC especially the mods for 1.7.10 and 1.12.2
A point that couldve also been said is the fact that you can infact play a lot of those games from the past still. You aren't being forced to play the recent slop that is being pumped out of modern triple A companies, you can always go back and play the games that have existed for years. Emulate it if you have too.
I could spend the next 10 years playing only games from the PS2, GameCube, Xbox and Dreamcast, and that would still be a perfectly fine way to enjoy great video games. So many gems from that era are still relevant and genuinely fun today, and not all of them got remasters on modern platforms.
@@Jeff_Biden the criteria used to define 'indie' is so vague and dynamic. I can't help but imagine people who say the shit you just said hate anything that's not trendy, AAA or a copy of what came before.
I have found gaming quite boring awhile back a friend of mine suggested: "How about you... don't play a platformer?" I looked at my recent games and... yup... all platformers, I wasn't growing tired of games, just platformers. So then I played some 3rd person shooters, FPS, horror games and it truly refuels your game-drive It's easy to fall in this "same-genre trap" as you like a genre, see more of it, and you want more of it Did I enjoy all the games I played? No. Some games were not fun, but that's alright, not everything has to be to my tastes
I feel like people just can't play anymore. There always has to be a challenge. I just load up Horizon Forbidden West and fly around the map. I just play, like little kids do.
If a UA-camr makes a video about this, they usually follow into one of these catagories: - They only play multiplayer FPS games, and because no new hot games of that genre are coming out and are good on release, it means the game industry as a whole is dying - They play only a single game and have gotten bored of it, thus believing that gaming is dead or dying - They believe that indie games aren’t real and that AAA games are the only way to play, and because AAA games have been pretty bad recently, gaming is dying - They don’t play video games
I had same mindset in 2014-2018 and thougt games isn't fun anymore but then realised that i wanted good games from wrong developers and after 3 years break started to seek something entirely different instead of relying on companies i don't trust anymore. This year i finished BG3, Hades, DOS2, Elden Ring (can't wait for DLC) and Nier Replicant and i had so much fun with each of these games i didn't had in a decade.
Change "FPS" Games to CoD and CS bc half of the people that complain about games not being fun anymore only tried one or two triple A FPS,there are so many great one's like ULTRAKILL, Helldivers 2,Lethal Company(kinda),and Minecraft players refuse to believe that game's like terraria exist,which are going to give you the same wonder that old school Minecraft gave you when you were younger
@@staringcorgi6475 There are issues with the modding community though. Such as the current "horror" trend of low-effort mods started by Cave Dweller and massive Lolcows such as TheyCallMeDanger and the Scape and Run: Parasites dev team.
@@staringcorgi6475 I primarily stick to vanilla+ modpacks such as Better Beta and Re-console along with the occasional adventure/survival-themed ones. However, the crappy modpacks and mods like RLCraft, Fear Nightfall, Parasites, and Cave Dweller + its DeviantArt OC clones, are extremely popular with UA-camrs. Which leads to them burying the good ones on CurseForge.
Yep. Video games are for weirdos, nerds and dorks. This is the end result of video games going so mainstream. The average person watches movies and thinks “who’s that? Why did they do that? How did they get there?” While looking at their phone. Same applies to video games. If a game doesn’t give them a dopamine hit and let them zone out they give up.
One of the common points that annoys me is when people try to bring up how the older gens were better because "Look at all these great games we had [List of basically every well known game from a certain era]" as if ALL gaming eras didn't have a significantly higher batch of unremembered mediocre games or outright garbage. Sure, back then bad games generally had different issues than current bad games, like Live Services and DLC obsession was less common back then, but regardless, they were still crappy and/or mediocre games all the same, and the ratio was still "Less good games than bad/mediocre". Even back in the days of Arcades and retro consoles, this was the same. All generations have this similar thing. Not that it's worth making this point though. Most of these types will just respond with "Name some current games that are good", and whatever you answer, they'll find a find to say "Nuh uh", such as it's "I don't care about that game so it doesn't count" or the classic "calling it "soulless" as if that means jack shit anymore", to finding some way to shove political bullshit into their reasoning, among many others.
It's always "7th gen was the best" when it's the same generation as Ride to Hell and Colonial Marines. Or worse "The 90's was the best" when most of that crowd has probably never touched DOS.
BRO THANK YOU! Sorry for caps but I swear man. Its like people forget how ass some games used to be. Sure games were epic back then, but we had a long share of stinkers. Honestly, there are so many options and games that came out 5 years ago that I havent even had a chance to play. There are still plenty of great games
I disagree with the arcades part, unless its about some of them being absolutely shit, and yeah some retro consoles were completely unbearable to play with. The rest I slightly agree. Indie games are carrying the shit out of this industry.
This is how I feel too. I roll my eyes every time I see “video games just aren’t the same anymore” Meanwhile I’m having just as much fun playing Minecraft with my friends now as I did when I was a kid. That’s not even mentioning all the other games you mentioned in the video + indie games being the best they’ve ever been.
@@antoguinoIt's probably that there were a ton of garbage games back in the day, but people only remember the ones that were good or at least enjoyable in their own way.
A lot of these opinions come from people who just play shooters, or only play games from 90s-2000s franchises that have been creatively exhausted nowadays. And mobile games. Branch out lads!
Not sure if you'll see this, but I'll throw my hat in the ring: I think an issue not talked about is how some people make games their entire life. Like- No other hobbies, just stay in the house 24/7 playing videogames. They burn themselves out because all they do is game, and often hyperfixate on a game until they run their enjoyment of it into the ground. As much as it is a meme these days- I really recommend for people feeling burnt out to take a step away from the controller. There really is so much more to life then the latest COD.
ill be completely honest most of the whole "woke bad" arguments just feel like "woman character does not have massive badonkers, 0/10" but actually taken seriously somehow.
Aloy is literally so beautiful and like even considering her lifestyle in the game she still looks good. Not only that but I find her to be a character I can really relate to.
11 months ago the guy who made the "video games are fun anymore" video made a sequel to it called "Video Game Are Fun, Actually" about soem new games that are fun.
I need to remark, It doesnt have to do anything with this video, But I really starting to consider the "X isnt Y, actually" as a new annoying video title template, idk tho
"Video games aren't fun anymore" mfs when you tell them that a game will get stale after playing it for 5 years and that there's more genres than just shooters and sandboxes
2023 alone was one of the best years of gaming. There were sooo many bangers released. To say video games are boring now a mere year later is a you problem, not a video game problem.
"videogames are better than they've *ever been*" FUCKING YES. OH MY GOD THANK YOU. We have games coming out nowadays that if you showed someone in the Wii era they would think you're lying and that it's not real.
you know what? i love this message. i love this whole video. it is a positive view on a terrible situation where nothing seems to be getting better, but they are! the loud voices of slop will not drown out the quiet whispers of brilliance.
@@DionPanday i am not denying that we should protest, i think i should clarify. we absolutely should protest with the AAA directors, who are making terrible games with overworked people, or sometimes intentionally trying to make an actual scam. that is bad, and we should try to stop it. i think this video is trying to show us that there is still light, that there is still hope for videogames, even triple A, but it still agrees that there is a bunch of terrible stuff coming out. it's just that the loud voices of slop are louder than ever now.
@@Rustylorde No this video is clearly saying I know games aren’t as fun as they used to be but you could you like please ignore all that and pretend everything is a okay? Oh games are pandering to minorities? Just ignore it, oh indie games use nostalgia and don’t offer anything truly unique? Just ignore it. And if you really want to pull a strawman just say the people who are criticizing only play the same 5 popular games despite having no evidence for this. Because like we all know if you don’t like a badly prepared meal, eating a completely different meal will magically fix the original badly prepared meal. K thx bye.
@@DionPanday did we watch the same video? i got the message that: "there are bad things, we should not support them. but there are some better things, you should support that." if a positive attitude and spreading hope seems like "ignoring the bad things of games." the last part of the video is trying to be advice! try going out of your comfort zone, try new things, stuff like that! not everyone plays a lot of different games! if you think that pandering to minorities (which all games do, there is no everyone game) or using nostalgia as an indie game is a bad thing, i'd like to hear why nothing in the world can ever be truly unique anymore, there is just too much stuff to make something new that has no parts that are used elsewhere, but they can be different enough to tickle that dopamine factory.
@Rustylorde I think that other guy may be too fair up his own ass to engage with others in good faith, but I do give you kudos for still being polite. I don’t mean that sarcastically! That can be rare to find online nowadays
Playing half baked AAA or returning to the same game over and over again then say it's not fun is like only going to one fast food joint and say nobody makes good food anymore. Like a certain guy in FC3 said, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different result.
Saying you should try indie games over triple A games is like saying if you don’t like the fast food joint terrible cheeseburgers you should order their milkshakes instead. How does that fix their terrible cheeseburgers?
@@DionPanday uh that analogy doesn't work tho, indie game and AAA game doesnt come from one company (or a fast food joint in your analogy). And to answer that, if you don't buy shitty AAA games and go play something else then yea, maybe it'll make AAA companies actually try to make good games.
People who try AAA for the hundred times despite being advised to try other games like indies and AA. It's all about views and clicks man, it's the engagement, easy to bait people watching them. This is why people like YongYeah, LegacyKilla makes money.
@@X2011racer Those are the people that out themselves as ignorant when it comes to indie games. What's funny is that those same people go on to buy the next cookie cutter AAA game.
@@foppypoof5195 They also chew out indie developed games based on AAA IPs, such as Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp, Streets of Rage 4, Sonic Mania, and Battletoads (reboot).
@@foppypoof5195 They also chew out indie developed games based on AAA IPs, such as Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp, Streets of Rage 4, Sonic Mania, and Battletoads (reboot).
That Dune comparison was just... so apt. I don't think people realize how self-defeating it is to get at AAA gaming for shitty business practices, but then adamantly refuse to check out a side of gaming that's reaching the same level of scale and quality *without* corporate seeping in. Come a few years, we will have individuals making 2077-type games that are actually finished at launch. *Without AI.*
"Tell me you only play Ubisoft, Bethesda, and generic FPS games without telling me you only play Ubisoft, Bethesda, and generic FPS games." "Videogames aren't fun anymore."
People often forget that, There's games you can buy on Steam right now that were hit classics YEARS ago during the "Peak" of gaming that you can get for real cheap as well and play. Best part, It's always gonna be in my library of games. Back in 2012 when I was like 14/15 and opened of Steam, I bought Half Life 2, and Gmod and many years later they're still there but also plenty of older pc games cropping up on steam that I have been giving a shot since they came around. Not only that but Emulation, Nuff Said.
People keep conflating the "Triple-A Industry" to gaming as a whole. Yeah, if you keep looking to Bethesda, Activision, Ubisoft, and Microsoft for your games no kidding gaming is going to look like soulless trash. Support smaller studios, niche genres, or just go back to play older games.
this. scream out about the current industry and support these actual artists as much as possible so they don't get bought out and determined by shareholders.
I bet those are the kind of people that play online games waaaaay too much. I can tell, because some of their arguments goes like "Imagine being a kid, booting up your windows 7 and hanging out with the bros, having a few rounds on (instert generic shooter game name) every night. Yeah, those days. But it's not the same anymore". Yeah it's cool and all, Brrrooo. But those are just memories. Move on. Just because those days are over doesn't mean that gaming in general is boring. I too feel that way. I miss 2020 when I used to talk a lot with people and EVEN play online with some of them, even for a little. Nowadays I just focus on my personal life and watching anime/cartoons and playing Sonic games whenever I feel like it. And despite the fact that my life now is boring. I never blame it on games. Even when I do the typical "boot up the pc and play nothing" dick move, I don't think for a second that it's because gaming is boring. It's just that life got fucked up over time, that's all. There is a saying that goes "life is what you make of it" and I couldn't agree more with this statement. If I was in the right position, I CAN make my life way more fun than it ever has been and bring back that joy of gaming. Maybe someday.. maybe someday....
As a gamer in his 30s. Games are not boring, you're only getting older. The novelty is off, you've seen everything and the more you play, fewer and fewer games are going to be appealing. It's the sad truth
I don't think it's truly possible to see everything, but you do definitely see a lot, and you notice more and more when things repeat, when you wouldn't notice when you had a more inexperienced set of eyes on gaming. And sometimes, you just need a break from the genre or from gaming for things to feel fresh again.
You would think if they are mainstream gamers they would play Super Mario Wonder, possibly the Splatoon trilogy, the Metal Gear games (even just Revengeance), some better acclaimed Final Fantasy games, including just 7 Remake series, some platform fighters, Celeste, Hades series, Binding of Isaac, etc. All are popular, good, accessible, and stuff like that.
It feels like people only play AAA Games and dont want to play AA or Indie Games it really feels like people dont want to play out their comfort zone. Fully agree with your points
THATS EXZCTLY WHAT IM SAYING none of those new games do anything special at all Elden ring is supposedly the best of its era(its judst dark souls 3 with open world) BUT THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT GAMING AS A WHOLE 😂 these people dont get that the golden era was pure innovation NEW IDEAS QUALITY LEFT ZND RIGHT DEPTH COMPLEXITY CREATIVITY When do we get inception of those franchise ??? In the 2020s ?!??! NOPE NONE OF THE CURRENT DEV HAVE THE LEVEL OF THOSE OLDER ERA DEV THAT MADE THE INDUSTRY Its blatant obvious that modern gaming stand no chance even on the video the guy play a xbox 360 game proving our point again And indie games are just worse version of already better games Hollow knight was just a metroid/castlevania rip off that cant compare facts Indie fanboys refuse to accept that gaming died after the best devs quit and the era changed
Nope all gaming genre are worse now thats not even a debat eif you played all type of games Its the fortnite battle royale fanboy that say muh its boring because they never play anything else but its worse
@@Hajimeme7 Do you play anything else? from the way you’re peddling your complaints you make it seem as if you haven’t played any new games for the past 20 years
@@Woopor let’s do this just copy pasting his bad points all over. He doesn’t even make any arguments. He just kind of vaguely claim stuff. He’s the audience for the original video game Suck now, and he is really really annoying.
All these videos always give me the same vibes as: Let me tell you something about modern gastronomy. Food is fucking mid nowadays. It's so bland and boring. It's just not the same. Maybe I've grown out of food I've only eaten cheese sandwiches and instant noodles for 15 years btw
As someone who never played games as a kid and only started getting into it a few years ago I never experienced this issue, playing these modern classics for the first time is awesome. It just seems like people prefer to whine and complain instead of doing something productive or fun
Even if you olay niche genre its worse than ever Thats the thing the golden era consisted of AAA dev being gamers that cared wanted to make the best of the best while having fun Look at this video he himsemf prove that by using a xbox 360 game why didnt he pick a recent game ? Because it exactly is superior We had so many new genre ideas innovation created Inception of new franchise now where is all this ? Nowhere
@BlackJacked wich lead you to the old school stuff again proving the point of these videos FIFA MADDEN 2K COD Battle royales has always been garbage games for frauds But you guys always target these people so you avoid facing the facts that every indie game is a worse version of old games Hollow knight is a pathetic attempt at ripping off castlevania/metroid and fail miserably And thats the best indie game according to the indie crowds If this is what best indie can do idk what they will when fighters rts and other quality gaming genre are on the table Indie games dont bring nothing new to the table if you have grear taste in games its just worse version of old stuff
Everyone wants to remember the great games that came out back then. Then they like to forget about the shit we got. Ride to hell retribution,mindjack,and all those horrible movie license games.
"If you're stuck in the past, you won't be able to enjoy what's in front of you" I'll add that also what is behind you! I recently started playing NES and SNES games on emulators and it has been a blast! There are great games from the past that people ignore. I've been playing Contra, Punch-out, Kirby, etc. FOR FREE. It really is just a matter of looking hard enough.
The people that repeatedly complain about how modern gaming is dead, while only playing games from the big companies (Ubisoft, EA, Activision), should learn to broaden their comfort zone.
The best thing I did for my gaming hobby was picking up another, totally unrelated hobby. Fishing has gotten me not just off of video games, but away from my PC entirely. It makes the time I do get to spend on my PC in general, but especially gaming, feel so much more meaningful. Im also spending more time with my friends and grandfather!
It’s frustrating because you know they don’t really mean what they say, not really. Usually, the statement “there were no good games this year” is just a misplaced critique of the fact there were no good games THEY liked this year. I’ve seen this exaggerative take when it comes to movies as well. I didn’t think it needed to be said, but just because there isn’t an abundance of media catering to your interests, doesn’t mean an entire medium of entertainment is to blame.
When gamers realize there’s more to games than just AAA and even by that I mean there’s more to AAA than Cod, Madden, 1st Party Exclusives And if you really want to be an asshole about this lmao there’s more to AAA games than First person shooters
these times looks like that picture of a bus where one person is looking at the mountain side while the other is looking at breathtaking view of the valley .
Gaming isn't boring we just need to find the right game I no joke finished sekiro like 7 times in a week or two modded it and am replaying and I still enjoy it
Sekiro is one of the few games i bother to platinum, I don't give a sht about trophies but sekiro is so fun that i literally use platinum as an excuse to keep playing it
Notice how people who make the same gaming is ruined video play the same slop for years on end. It is not hard to get out of your comfort zone and find something new. Gaming has so much to it beyond the mainstream titles
I think another thing to add is that people also just need to find other hobbies variety even outside of games makes life so much more interesting go for walks, learn new skills, make something, find new shows or movies to watch, read a book series you never finished as a kid, revisit something you loved as a kid and see how it’s changed for you, doing that is an eye opening experience and at least for me has really changed how I viewed things from my past there’s so much to do in life, so many new and old games and so much variety that I think limiting yourself to only 1 genre or 1 hobby is just dull there’s also just a general problem of really hyping up nostalgia and putting so much emphasis on it when nostalgia really isn’t the end all be all gaming was not perfect back then whatsoever, and it certainly isn’t now, but I think we need to stop looking back at time periods and be like “this was the peak everything was downhill and it was perfect then!!” just because we were kids
The shoutout to indie game developers was so appreciated! People forget how much creativity and love indie games are made with, and their level of popularity speaks to how well theyre made, especially considering they have to fight every step of the way to make a name for themselves against these multi-million dollar companies and their more well known titles.
A lot of people who say games are boring now either A) Play the same games over and over with no variety B) Have lost interest in gaming as a whole as they've gotten older and think everyone should feel the same (they tend to say stuff like "if you're above x age and still play games you need to grow up") C) Don't really play games anyways and are just making a video for views/to capitalize on how bad a lot of modern releases are
"Gaming is dead!" says the person that owns a PS5, the latest Xbox, a top of the line GPU and CPU, and only plays AAA games like Warzone. Meanwhile, I'm just having fun with BeamNG's new career mode, playing old community maps in Sven Coop with friends, trying out different Minecraft modpacks or going back to old versions, playing Half-Life 2 with the Fake Factory Remaster mod and seeing all the cool changes and improvements... gaming is only dead if you're stuck in the corporate present. Look anywhere outside of that, and you see it's actually quite alive. You just need to give money and attention to those that deserve it. Imagine if everyone just stopped focusing solely on Ubisoft, Activision, and EA, and instead just talked about the good shit coming out. Actually, you don't really need to do that. Just look at the tactical shooter community. Those creators make one video about how Insurgency Sandstorm got bad, and then 10 more about cool new games coming out, dev interviews, the like. And it's the one space in gaming that I'm actually seeing get better over time. Crazy, right?
It’s kinda like music. People who say music is getting stale usually listen to like 3 genres. With video games some people usually stick to two types of games. What’s unfortunate for video games is that companies are looking to make the next Fortnite or GTA online.
This is the stupidest thing i’ve ever heard because video games are better than they have ever been,and that’s just litterally a logical fact,these people just can’t believe they have grown up and are in a diffirent time and therefore take nostalgia over everything😂
I'm not a fan of this "trend" either, but you have to understand their perspective. We all experience gaming in different ways. For some, a sense of local/online community is more important than variety in titles or genre. Others may have fond nostalgia for the simplicity of games they played as a kid or teenager, and disassociate from the corporate minefield that plagues their favourite series' years later. Yes, there are still excellent games being made today, especially when we take into account indie studios. However, fun is subjective, and you can't simply tell people, "Why don't you just play good games instead? That's why you're not enjoying it." This is especially when you take into account that a lot of gamers do, and always did, view games as merely entertainment and escapism.
i've never understood the sentiment of gaming being "dead" or "dying" To list my own currently installed games in my steam library for a moment to illustrate what you can find if you branch into multiple genre's (or even a few niche games in some more mainstream genres): Barotrauma - Full release in 2023, still getting updates - 170 hours played Battlebit Remastered - Still in early access and still getting updates - 55 hours played (and rapidly rising) Darkest Dungeon - Released in 2016 no longer getting updates - 110 hours played (got the game in 2023) Deep Rock Galactic - Released in 2020, is soon going to have another major update and a new game like it is on the way - 370 hours played Factorio - Released in 2020 and is soon going to have a major DLC released - 170 hours played (majority of that within a single month) Fallout New Vegas - released at the start of time and is still one of the most narratively pleasing games to play to this day (and if modding counts then gameplaywise too), 240 hours played Forts - Released in 2017, still decently actively updated - 130 hours Foxhole - Released 2022, is one of the most unique games (let alone MMO's) out there and while it has problems, no game will make you feel like a cog in a machine more than this - 240 hours played (and endless hours thought about, seriously I don't know why) From the Depths - Released in 2020, still getting minor updates to this day - 110 hours played Kerbal Space Program - Released in 2015, No longer updated - 450 hours played Noita - Released in 2020, still receiving updates occasionally and is one of the most cryptic games out there - 80 hours played Project Zomboid - Still in early access and is in active development - 180 hours played Ravenfield - forever in early access because solo dev moment, recently got a new update for improved modability - 300 hours played Risk of Rain 2 - Released in 2020, soon to get a new DLC - 140 hours Space Engineers - Released in 2019, is somewhat still developed with what looks to be a new game on the way with a newer (and frankly very impressive) engine - 220 hours Stellaris - Released in 2016, is a paradox game so you better believe there's still DLC being cranked out - 170 hours Team Fortress 2 - released before time itself, is effectively abandoned but is still incredibly fun - 880 hours played Terraria - Released just after the start of time, final update is totally coming soon and then the game wont be developed (its going to be developed until the heat death of the universe) - 350 hours played Valheim - Released in 2021, just received a major update and is actively being developed - 150 hours These are the games that I semi-regularly play on steam, god only knows how many hours I've played Minecraft for or many, MANY other games that I've got lying around (cough, Voices of the Void, Cough) or games that i played on other devices, but the games I've listed alone make up probably half of my steam playtime. there's around 40 more games that I've played over 30-50 hours of and had my fill over the past few years (as well as a few that I've got over 400 in and just don't play anymore or have just become lost in the list of over 100 titles in my library that I've simply forgot about) New games don't fit your fancy? look between the cracks and find niche communities that surround insanely addictive games, or play older games that have long since acquired cult status, they often have for a reason. chances are you can find niche games in the genres you normally enjoy and one might just hook you.
When people say gaming is dying, they are talking about an era where almost 90% of the games are high quality in storytelling, gameplay, innovation etc etc. The fact that you said "look between the cracks and find niche communities" is a testament to this, because back in the old days, you didn't need to. You enter a store, you see the first row, and they are all amazing games. Today, the first row is filled with AAA games that are buggy, messy and filled with microtransactions.
I'm currently sitting at 600 games on my Must-Play games list, with another 600 games on my wishlist, knowing I'll likely die from old age before I get through them all. Whenever I hear people saying that there's nothing to play or nothing good, I just can't help but wonder how they've managed to get through 40 years of gaming content already while I'm struggling with a single year's worth of releases. I genuinely love video games and there's some absolute crap out there, but there always has been. Hilarious to see people looking at 2013 with nostalgia when I vividly remember the gaming discourse predicting a video game crash by 2015 due to the reboot culture that was coming up or in late 2000s when everyone said PC is dead and developers killed it due to bad ports. To me, it sadly seems to be just a ton of people stuck in their comfort bubbles and with a lack of critical thinking about these types of things. If their favorite childhood game series doesn't hit the same way during their 4000th hour on it, then suddenly the entire medium is dead.
To that statement, I have three things to say: 1. My PC is too weak anyway, I don't understand your problems because I rarely play new games. 2. Nothing stops you from going back to Morrowind (I literally did that a few days ago and it's one of the best decisions I've ever made). 3. Elden Ring, ULTRAKILL, Baldur's Gate 3, Cyberpunk 2077 (got fixed from what I heard), Lies of P, Armored Core 6, Dead Space, and those are only the ones I know about and could remember.
It’s not that game development itself has changed all that much, it’s just where the good shit went…it went indie, for artists realized they don’t need shitty Ubisofts to release their Raymans. Although that’s more of a rule of thumb, go indie or go creatively broke. Par la Rêve, Pour la Rêve! I am bias towards indie gaming vs triple ass budget, but I am willing to give credits to the mario+rabbids or even just the Captain Laserhawks of the world. (I.E the few good games within triple ass gaming & even the mediocre but surprisingly fun titles even though the example I cited was a Netflix fauxnime, not a video game.)
Did u guys know that there’s a thing called: replaying your childhood games or another thing go replay the modern popular games in general?? Hell I didn’t know that until I thought about in my head lol
@@sagaris93 Baldurs Gate 3, Alan Wake 2, Hi Fi Rush, Phantom Liberty, Spider Man 2, Tears of the Kingdom, RE4 remake, Dead Space remake, Jedi Survivor, Lies of P, FF16, Armored Core 6, Blasphemous 2, Super Mario Wonder, Cocoon.
@mikeity2009 a handful? I named more than a dozen, each one at nearly A+ quality. That's more than nearly any year can ever say. It was a low point of industry workers, but a high water mark as a consumer, which was the point of view I was coming from.
sorry for unpinning the funny comment but i thought it’d be cool to address a few arguments that deserve to be recognized
1. “We’re talking about AAA”
While I personally think that AAA games are still doing fairly good, with tons of hits coming out, I can understand the sentiment that companies like ubisoft are creating with insane pricing systems, however they don’t reflect the whole game industry, and lots of AAAs are putting out good games.
2. “Just focusing on the good is unproductive and you need to criticize the bad as well.”
This one is pretty valid, I think it’s fairly reasonable to criticize bad and uplift good, but in doing so you have to acknowledge that for every single era of gaming, we’ve been doing that. Yes, of course there are more garbage games, but there are also more great games, the ratio hasn’t changed, but the volume has.
3. “X Franchise has gone down the shitter, what do?”
I empathize with this one, and that’s what the suicide squad story was supposed to be for. I get that when a franchise you care about gets all scummy and greedy that it sucks, but unfortunately you just need to vote with your wallet and move on. It really does suck, but again, it doesn’t mean that video games are dead, it just means it’s time for new things to take their place.
4. “That’s just like, your opinion, man”
True‼️ Just as much as I am allowed to convey my opinion that I think video games are better than ever, you’re allowed to disagree, because there ARE valid reasons to that side of the argument. I just think branching out helped me out a lot and I think it’d help you guys too.
Your opinion isn’t valid if you’re crying about diversity though, look inside yourself and really ask yourself why you’re mad about that
5. “The gaming is dead crowd doesn’t actually mean gaming is dead.”
I get that it’s hyperbole, but I feel like it’s not super helpful to just say that “gaming is dead” when we’ve get bangers coming out left and right, and I’d say that the majority of games people remember from the last few years would be good ones
6. "It's always the same answer 'just play indie games'"
You did not watch the video buddy
i’ll be updating this as i see more interesting arguments, maybe ill make a video idk
Tears of the kingdom was just overhyped dlc, super Mario needs a hiatus, there's too many dark souls clones, n indie games either try to remake a classic or are gimmick games for streamers. Every big dev wants live service, turning games into work.
Also, the point u made about "just play the game everyone else thinks is cool" is wild. Cannot believe u thought that was a good take. Lol. Just conform, right? That's how we got to where we are. By following the trends
*thank you for showing how AAA games are not 100% bad like every single indie game fan addict tries at all costs to tell to the others*
Frick you for the thumbnail.
@@peighnesshonourchign9164”Just play the game everyone thinks is cool”. This is not a bad take at all it makes complete sense.If you’re hating media like games or whatever or think the genre isn’t the same anymore maybe you could look at actual popular and look up why their popular?
Like let’s say I think single player first person shooters are a boring genre. It’s all military propaganda junk or whatever the fuck you want to think. You could easily look up popular fps that people love like Half life 2,Doom eternal, and Bioshock 1. Playing a game everyone likes isn’t a bad thing and saying that as advice isn’t bad at all it’s logical as fuck. Why wouldn’t you want to look into things that well received and considered popular.
Then again I shouldn’t expect logic from someone with a dumbass username.Seriously why don’t your take your crappy takes to some subreddit like mohair in action or whatever it’s called.
@@peighnesshonourchign9164 i guess it was a bit odd to say it that way, it's more of me saying that when there's universal acclaim for a certain game, you should try it, it's a good way to find games that you might like. I'm not saying to "just conform" but rather to look on the bright side and see where it takes you
People that say gaming is boring now, are the same people that have been playing the same games for the past 5 years
Mostly yes but it is true
All of the gaming genre has been perfected in the past you want the best stealth game? You wont find it in this era
Best shooter ? Good luck with all the battle royale clones garbage that recycle fortrash every time
Best rpg? You wont find it now
As a gamer that played both era i can easily testify that this era of gaming is just not it
There is too many cash grab scam practice greed and manipulation on top of having no creativity and innovation
You cant say gaming is better than ever just to agree with those point 2 min after
@BlackJacked wich lead you to the old school stuff again proving the point of these videos
FIFA MADDEN 2K COD Battle royales has always been garbage games for frauds
But you guys always target these people so you avoid facing the facts that every indie game is a worse version of old games
Hollow knight is a pathetic attempt at ripping off castlevania/metroid and fail miserably
And thats the best indie game according to the indie crowds
If this is what best indie can do idk what they will when fighters rts and other quality gaming genre are on the table
Indie games dont bring nothing new to the table if you have grear taste in games its just worse version of old stuff
@@Hajimeme7 Considering Hollow Night has a 90% on Metacritic, 9.4/10 on IGN, 10/10 on Steam, and 4.8 on google reviews, it's safe to say that your opinion doesn't exactly reflect popular consensus now doesn't it.
@@Hajimeme7 Gloomwood is a very good stealth game in this era. CS2 and PUBG are great shooters in this era. Baldurs Gate 3 is one of the best RPGs in this era. There are more fantastic indie and AA games than AAA cash grab slop and it's not hard to find.
@Hajimeme7 Just the last few years I have played multiple games I would put as all time favorites, including RPGs. Negativity just gets more eyes.
“Why aren’t games fun anymore” mfs when you tell them to stop reminiscing about modern warfare two multiplayer as the pinnacle of gaming
I love me DEI hires and diverse transgender characters and ugly woman in my video game it’s totally normal and not been made more popular over the last couple years to push certain agendas
Goated comment!
Or especially Halo 3, as if everything was perfect back then (spoiler no it was not, you had to buy map packs or you got screwed in multiplayer since you couldn't matchmake with those who had the extra maps and you didn't)
>no microtransactions
>no battle pass
>no barebones launches
>no pay to win weapons and $20 skins
>No hellish grinds that unironically take 80 years to unlock everything without opening up your wallet
>no skill based match making
>no picking from 6 different editions ranging from $60 to $150 trying to rack your brain on wtf you even want.
Lord knows I'm forgetting more BS
Multiplayer gaming was better in the 360/PS3 era. It's not even a contest.
@@fullmetalbleachnote “no microtransactions or barebones launches” sorry, what were the map packs that completely ruined matchmaking then?
"Why aren't games fun anymore" ppl loading up Yakuza 0 for the first time about to experience peak
peak
real
New rule: If your backlog entirely consists of GTA, Cod, and Minecraft, you dont get to say "games arent fun anymore". You barely even PLAY games.
Tbh those 3 games were the holy trinity back in the day and I agree those times were good. But there's soo many people who are stuck in that mindset now, people just gotta step out of their comfort zone and play different games other than Action, adventure and shooters.
To be fair GTA and Minecraft are fun, casual games can be fun. Cod is right for me since I have no idea why they publish the same game every year and people still play it only to complain. At least the other 2 is only one game.
Replace "COD" and "Minecraft" with Serious Sam and Doom and those are the 3 games I mostly play.
@@rency1803it's not that they can't be fun, it's that when you limit your range to even just one genre of gaming you're bound to get bored, but that's not a reflection on gaming that's a reflection on the gamer.
@@DustyEchozyplay terraria,play ultrakill,play pizza tower,play hi fu rush there are so many AMAZING games nowadays made by indie developers or small studios,lethal company,metal gear rising,TF2,Porta etc...
Gaming hardly looks so grim when you start looking for those weird and wacky indies that focus on hitting you just right
Hell if you're just not an idiot and realize you can avoid microtransactions, then a lot of games become way more enjoyable.
@@BlackJackedwich lead you to the old school stuff again proving the point of these videos
FIFA MADDEN 2K COD Battle royales has always been garbage games for frauds
But you guys always target these people so you avoid facing the facts that every indie game is a worse version of old games
Hollow knight is a pathetic attempt at ripping off castlevania/metroid and fail miserably
And thats the best indie game according to the indie crowds
If this is what best indie can do idk what they will when fighters rts and other quality gaming genre are on the table
Indie games dont bring nothing new to the table if you have grear taste in games its just worse version of old stuff
@@Hajimeme7Cant lie your spittin facts whenever I look at the indie scene all I see are cozy farming sims, metroidvania, side-scroller rouge-likes, isometric rouge-likes.etc Sure not *all* indie games fit into these catagories. But man do you have to wade through some utter shit before you find anything good. Its the same whenever I look at AAA games and think MTX and battlepasses. Im sick of repitition and a lack of true innovation, its not even like the bar is that damn high either. Helldivers 2 gave us something new in terms if gameplay loops by creating an extraction shooter thats limited to a smaller arena with stratagems that vary in effectiveness depending on the kind if mission your playing which effectivley eliminates any kind of meta from spawning. Its a pretty clever solution to an issue every multiplayer game has had for a long time. Its a pretty clever new loop thats fun, engaging and rewarding to partake in, especially considering its also a 'live service' title. But next to Helldivers I just dont see much that looks like true innovation. Often times games on all sides of the front just create a unique gimmik that reframes already existing gameplay loops, yet these gimmiks somehow never find their way into a sequel or end up forgotten about by the wider industry. Small innovations just dont cut it anymore in my book. This is why people still flock to first party nintendo titles, because they do what indie games do, but just significantly better. Tell me, can you imagine any indie 3D platformer overtaking Mario Odyseey in quality:quantity ratio? Didnt think so. The point and case is that even Odyseey is just an amalgamation of ideas and gimmiks. But they fit so many in, and they blend so seamlessly, to the point that its acceptable to say that the smaller innovations coalesce and make the overall game innovative.
Outside of these rare 1st party nintendo games and the odd handful of good AAA games that come out a year, the games industry sorta sucks.
@@Hajimeme7 this comment has more bias and bullcrap than a CNN or Fox report
I played 3 games in a row that made me cry like a bitch, can confirm
"Why aren't games fun anymore?" Maybe you could play more than two games? Most of these people play minecraft or the same tired shooter for over a decade, then wonder why its boring to them. Get out of your comfort zone, trust me, it helps.
The Minecraft or players tht play same fame for 20 years aren't the ones vomplaing .it's the people who are more casual with games
@@wingedhussar1453casuals dont care to look at gaming coverage nonetheless comment on online gaming threads
The ones that stick to very few games aren't the ones complaining
Very dumb opinion btw most of them play different games that's why they have that opinion
This is facts, been playing shooters for more than a decade and nowadays, most are just f2p and/or you have to sweat really hard to get anywhere so it got boring really fast. Starting checking out other kind of games on game pass like Hellblade 1 and was hooked. Definitely get out your comfort zone
The only good “Gaming isn’t fun anymore” video is Stryxo’s because it says exactly what you said, gaming isn’t fun anymore because you’re limiting yourself to a few genres.
"if you're stuck in the past, you won't be able to appreciate what's in front of you"
man that hits hard
It's the biggest problem with nostalgia in my eyes. Yes it can be nice to reminisce on the past but we can't go back in time, so why neglect the future?
great moral advice, doesnt apply when ur answer is "just play 2d side scrollers"
@@CHRB-nn6qpThe road ahead is full of potholes, thieves and beggers. Let's take a right.
@@sebabib Context?
@@Dr.Oofers this whole video is just anti contrarian soyjak bs. Instead of acknowledging that we should push back against game developers, his solution is to just play shitty indie games. The only people who like this stuff are Nintendo fans, as most indie games that are “praised” are Nintendo rip offs. No wonder his video got pushed in the algorithms, it’s about as corporate and bootlicking you can get. “Video games don’t suck your the problem” is all this video is. I can vouch for the fact that video games were made better back then, it’s not just a nostalgia act. I wasn’t allowed to play these games when I was little, so when I finally played them it blew everything modern day out of the water. I never thought I would like fallout, but new Vegas is more interesting than anything that has come out in the past few years. That game was made in 18 months, yet triple A studios need 3 years to make a game not anywhere near as memorable. I made a whole counter video to this, because this is nothing more than neckbeard garbage. Just using the current shitty state of gaming to push anime and indie crap
If the games you have suck, find better games.
We have the internet, we have the gaming community, we have indie developers releasing bangers for pennies on the dollar.
There is no excuse to not find a game that fits your taste.
No we only have cod
@@ommohammad5507 Exactly no other games exist
I LOVE ROR2 RAHHH WHAT IS A BAD GAME?????
Or they just go back to replaying the old games they liked. But they are afraid of finding out that they might not even like those anymore.
Only excuse is stubbornness and an unwillingness to embrace other people's thoughts and feelings cause they have a different identity from yourself, as do the games... both being unfamiliar, OR worse, deemed "too accepted by the mainstream and normies" cause the way they may see it, the moment they embrace the mainstream and normies, is the moment they die... yay some crazy sounding stuff there, but I can't blame'em fully, I got some of that in me too! But I can atleast recognize it, and not make a video that expresses opinions based entirely on my values alone without looking at the bigger picture.
These people only play one genre of games and get burnt out, then act shocked when they get bored.
THATS EXZCTLY WHAT IM SAYING
none of those new games do anything special at all
Elden ring is supposedly the best of its era(its judst dark souls 3 with open world) BUT THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT GAMING AS A WHOLE 😂
these people dont get that the golden era was pure innovation NEW IDEAS QUALITY LEFT ZND RIGHT DEPTH COMPLEXITY CREATIVITY
When do we get inception of those franchise ??? In the 2020s ?!??!
NOPE NONE OF THE CURRENT DEV HAVE THE LEVEL OF THOSE OLDER ERA DEV THAT MADE THE INDUSTRY
Its blatant obvious that modern gaming stand no chance even on the video the guy play a xbox 360 game proving our point again
And indie games are just worse version of already better games
Hollow knight was just a metroid/castlevania rip off that cant compare facts
Indie fanboys refuse to accept that gaming died after the best devs quit and the era changed
@LimeLoaf Like cod and fortnite lol
Funny how they didn’t get bored for like 3 gaming generations before but now it’s because they keep playing the same games they enjoyed forever ? You guys just don’t want to admit games are far worse now.
@@kang6914 I like playing games I like and know when to put them down when I don't like them anymore, Modern games from a shooter genre are better than a 20 year old shooter. The only time where modern games are awful are when you need to pay 35 dollars for more story in a half complete game that was 60 dollars *cough cough* pokemon *cough.* (I'd love to hear you're take on it though, I'm interested in your view.)
@@LimeLoaf yeah from a technical standpoint probably most newer games are far more advanced than they were 20 years ago. I don’t know if I would necessarily say they are overall better games though just because of these advances. When you factor in how much they would put into a lot of games back then for just one price. Just as you mentioned there’s been a lot of greed with paid releases still requiring a lot more spending to fully enjoy the experience but honestly that’s been happening for quite a while now I would say ever since online play became popular and all the extra DLC stuff started releasing. Speaking of shooter games maybe like COD for an example I do think were a lot better overall in many different ways than we have now even with all the newer improvements. Maybe not “20 years ago” per say but somewhere around 15 years ago specifically. That’s a whole other debate to be had though and honestly just comes down to which games you prefer but also I know COD is just one franchise I’m just using that as an example.
"video games aren't fun anymore" *then proceeds to only play 2K and COD for the 12th year straight*
Usually games are fun for me at first, then they get boring, and I stop playing for a few months. Then it gets fun again, and I play for the next few months.
same honestly
I've taken long breaks - up to 4 years - and it helps keep things fresh.
The perfect pattern.
it's normal. it's called burnout, and it happens to everyone.
You just described Minecraft perfectly
It's very annoying to see someone complain about EA, Activision, and Ubisoft and then pretend like as if all videogames are bad now, especially since we've gotten so many good games last year
Yeah we got fucking BG3 and AC FoR, FoR might be my favorite from soft game lmao and I still thought BG3 was goty
Such as?
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@@armaantoor6773 TotK? Mario Wonder? Pikmin 4?
@@armaantoor6773Baldur’s Gate 3, Tears of the Kingdom, Spider-Man 2, and the Jedi Survivor, just to name a few.
“Video games aren’t fun anymore” they say as they milk the shit out of the only game they’ve been playing for 15 years.
hey
you are fighting an insane amount of invisible ghosts, how do you do it?
The most common argument these folks often say when you tell 'em to stay away from AAA trash and play indies is "So many of them are just copies and rip offs of other games" or "Where should I even be looking for them?"
These people are so nearsighted they don't even bother to use glasses (that being Google).
All they need to do is type 'indie [genre] games [year]'. It will *never* be any simpler.
Steam exists for a reason and yet they still complain. I understand complaining about shitty AAA games and how shit quality a lot of them can be but there are some seriously awesome indie games
Saying "try indie games" isn't really the best pointer. It's about as broad as just saying "try video games". There's tons of bad stuff in that scene. People need actual recommendations if they're telling you that they don't know where to start. If I Google "indie RPG", the quality of anything I might click on is gonna be all over the place.
@@deprofundis442 Good way of explaining it. For every Pizza Tower There's a Yandere Simulator. For every Undertale there's a Garten of Banban. etc
“Videos game aren’t fun anymore”
What do you play?
“Fortnite, CoD, Apex, [Insert sports game here]”
this but without fortnite because i will always fw fortnite no matter how many indie games i’ll play 😂
Except even Fortnite and Apex are still fun and different. People just want something to complain about. Games are still (mostly) good.
@@Panimal98
Yeah, I've been playing apex with friends for a few months now and I'm having a blast. Don't care too much about rank, as long as I'm in gold or plat I'm happy.
Fortnite is still fun, if you ignore the rich kids inside the game
@@williamshaikespire69 and they dont even affect the gameplay lol
Aye! People whine about how "Minecraft beta was SOOO much better than modern minecraft!" While i can see where these lads are coming from...As a player who grew up playing the betas, I gotta say no, Minecraft beta was NOT better than modern minecraft. I'll admit, its a subjective thing, but still, They act like all modern versions are trash. Like, Hello? You guys spent a decade asking for an update to caves and then WHINE about the update not feeling like a minecraft version from 10 YEARS AGO. It gets tiring, Y'know? And this is coming from a guy who's been enjoying minecraft since beta back in 2011.
that’s what I’m saying, while I may not enjoy Minecraft like I used to, it’s so much fun to play with all the new stuff they’ve added these last few years, and I’m really excited to play it again with the boys when I finally get in the mood again
I mean, I do still think that the newest Minecraft updates are kinda lacking. The cave update didn’t even come out in one update, it had to be split in 2, even 3 updates if you count the Wild Update. Mojang overpromised and underdelivered, and ever since then Minecraft updates fell off. Minecraft is still by no means dead or not fun to play anymore (you can play modded Minecraft, which is getting better each passing year), it’s just that the recent updates are kinda lackluster.
The game is better now, objectively. There is more content and therefore more stuff to do, and nothing from the old game was removed. But the community was better back then. Thats undeniable. Minecraft had a culture surrounding it in its early days that has yet to be replicated
Honestly, I feel Minecraft peaked at 1.7.10.
It's the version I keep going back to and modding over any of the newer versions.
I like older versions of Minecraft as much as the newer ones, I do go back to beta sometimes but tbh I just don't play Minecraft that much anymore, but yeah I like older MC especially the mods for 1.7.10 and 1.12.2
A point that couldve also been said is the fact that you can infact play a lot of those games from the past still. You aren't being forced to play the recent slop that is being pumped out of modern triple A companies, you can always go back and play the games that have existed for years. Emulate it if you have too.
I could spend the next 10 years playing only games from the PS2, GameCube, Xbox and Dreamcast, and that would still be a perfectly fine way to enjoy great video games. So many gems from that era are still relevant and genuinely fun today, and not all of them got remasters on modern platforms.
The Crew incident
your pfp is an example of a great game, though it's more story then game
and might be "woke" to some people
@@keanux5906 people that unironically use the word woke in that context have something seriously wrong with them
Yeah, Valve puts a lot of their old stuff up on Steam for really cheap, Portal and Portal 2 are each only 10$.
"Video games aren't fun anymore" mfs when i show them the ENTIRE INDIE GAME SPACE
(side note: i love ultrakill, and ror2)
Or show them more niche franchises.
indie games suck
@@Jeff_Biden the criteria used to define 'indie' is so vague and dynamic. I can't help but imagine people who say the shit you just said hate anything that's not trendy, AAA or a copy of what came before.
@@1woozy i just dont play video games except YBA and fortnite
@@Jeff_Bidenyba is indie due to lacking a publisher/substantial starting budget lol
I wasn't as depressed in [year]! Which means it was objectively the best era for [thing]!
that's so real
More like they try to extend that to the entire planet. Totally nothing bad was happening anywhere in the world in my precious 90s.
ps2 era is gaming at it's best
change my mind
@@somechupacabrawithinternet8866 it's where you had the most fun, doesn't mean it was the best
Often times someone’s favorite generation is the one they grew up with. This isn’t surprising at all
“Man who has eaten only McDonald’s chicken nuggets for the past ten years says ‘Food just doesn’t taste that good anymore’.”
Lmao
“Games aren’t fun anymore” spoken like someone who hasn’t been fighting bugs on a backwater planet or hunting Safi’jiva at 2am
or mewing with furious rajang at 4am with the event quest "MEWING is number one" in MHW iceborne
I don't hate video games. I just hate games made by Activision and Ubisoft
Their more recent ones, right? Because their old stuff is still high-tier games I would rather play than whatever new game is coming out of them.
@@mercenarydelta7351
It was over for the two post 2017
@@realhumanbean7915 pretty much. That's around the time when micro transactions were starting to get more popular, right?
I have found gaming quite boring awhile back
a friend of mine suggested: "How about you... don't play a platformer?"
I looked at my recent games and... yup... all platformers, I wasn't growing tired of games, just platformers.
So then I played some 3rd person shooters, FPS, horror games and it truly refuels your game-drive
It's easy to fall in this "same-genre trap" as you like a genre, see more of it, and you want more of it
Did I enjoy all the games I played? No. Some games were not fun, but that's alright, not everything has to be to my tastes
Same genre trap is so real, I've gotten out of that trap and now I change genres every game I play because I realized how much I enjoy the variety
I love when UA-cam recommends me good small channels
Smaller channels have to prove themselves, so the quality is usually higher in the subject.
Gotta love finding fellow common sense enjoyers
Yes
I feel like people just can't play anymore. There always has to be a challenge. I just load up Horizon Forbidden West and fly around the map. I just play, like little kids do.
This goes very hard with that classic Naruto wallpaper profile pic.
I still sometimes play Skyrim just to genocide everything and then load my save
Personally to me it's AC Unity, just parkour around Paris doing nothing but free-run.
Yeah I'm trying to rediscover my inner child, feel like that'll help me even beyond gaming
Have this for skate 3 and ac unity like the guy above
Slop, 7th gen consoles:😍😍🤩🥰🥳
Slop, current gen consoles: 😡😡🤬😢😱
This is the takeaway I have seen from video essays on why they think gaming got bad.
Some people forget that every fps game was a beige and grey desert first person shooter or ww2 shooter for a long time
@@explodyz ryuga pfp, very based
I remember when everyone was saying the 7th gen was awful and games back then were better. Oh how the tides aphave shifted
"But you see, I grew up on 7th gen console slop, so I like it, and therefore that era was good and special"
@@explodyzAnd that is peak
"Gaming is dead" mfers when I tell them to get out of their comfort zone and to revist old classics they haven't played
If a UA-camr makes a video about this, they usually follow into one of these catagories:
- They only play multiplayer FPS games, and because no new hot games of that genre are coming out and are good on release, it means the game industry as a whole is dying
- They play only a single game and have gotten bored of it, thus believing that gaming is dead or dying
- They believe that indie games aren’t real and that AAA games are the only way to play, and because AAA games have been pretty bad recently, gaming is dying
- They don’t play video games
- They're a game journalist.
Theres actually even good big budget AAA games like Baldurs Gate 3 recently
Bonus point
- If they are a content creator and their views are starting to die then that must mean video games are dead
I had same mindset in 2014-2018 and thougt games isn't fun anymore but then realised that i wanted good games from wrong developers and after 3 years break started to seek something entirely different instead of relying on companies i don't trust anymore. This year i finished BG3, Hades, DOS2, Elden Ring (can't wait for DLC) and Nier Replicant and i had so much fun with each of these games i didn't had in a decade.
"Video games aren't fun"
*plays only FPS games and Minecraft*
Change "FPS" Games to CoD and CS bc half of the people that complain about games not being fun anymore only tried one or two triple A FPS,there are so many great one's like ULTRAKILL, Helldivers 2,Lethal Company(kinda),and Minecraft players refuse to believe that game's like terraria exist,which are going to give you the same wonder that old school Minecraft gave you when you were younger
Mc has mod packs which play different so it’s hard to be bored
@@staringcorgi6475 There are issues with the modding community though. Such as the current "horror" trend of low-effort mods started by Cave Dweller and massive Lolcows such as TheyCallMeDanger and the Scape and Run: Parasites dev team.
@@Daralexen stay away from the crappy mod packs and stick with witj the ones that are high effort like tekkit or feed the beast
@@staringcorgi6475 I primarily stick to vanilla+ modpacks such as Better Beta and Re-console along with the occasional adventure/survival-themed ones. However, the crappy modpacks and mods like RLCraft, Fear Nightfall, Parasites, and Cave Dweller + its DeviantArt OC clones, are extremely popular with UA-camrs. Which leads to them burying the good ones on CurseForge.
People who share this sentiment lack imagination. That's why they need to open up to games they haven't explored yet.
Yep. Video games are for weirdos, nerds and dorks. This is the end result of video games going so mainstream. The average person watches movies and thinks “who’s that? Why did they do that? How did they get there?” While looking at their phone. Same applies to video games. If a game doesn’t give them a dopamine hit and let them zone out they give up.
@@mmarshfairc3 what are you even doing watching a video about video games?
@@mr.x2567 I don’t know what you’re asking me.
One of the common points that annoys me is when people try to bring up how the older gens were better because "Look at all these great games we had [List of basically every well known game from a certain era]" as if ALL gaming eras didn't have a significantly higher batch of unremembered mediocre games or outright garbage. Sure, back then bad games generally had different issues than current bad games, like Live Services and DLC obsession was less common back then, but regardless, they were still crappy and/or mediocre games all the same, and the ratio was still "Less good games than bad/mediocre". Even back in the days of Arcades and retro consoles, this was the same. All generations have this similar thing.
Not that it's worth making this point though. Most of these types will just respond with "Name some current games that are good", and whatever you answer, they'll find a find to say "Nuh uh", such as it's "I don't care about that game so it doesn't count" or the classic "calling it "soulless" as if that means jack shit anymore", to finding some way to shove political bullshit into their reasoning, among many others.
It's always "7th gen was the best" when it's the same generation as Ride to Hell and Colonial Marines.
Or worse "The 90's was the best" when most of that crowd has probably never touched DOS.
BRO THANK YOU!
Sorry for caps but I swear man. Its like people forget how ass some games used to be. Sure games were epic back then, but we had a long share of stinkers.
Honestly, there are so many options and games that came out 5 years ago that I havent even had a chance to play. There are still plenty of great games
I disagree with the arcades part, unless its about some of them being absolutely shit, and yeah some retro consoles were completely unbearable to play with. The rest I slightly agree. Indie games are carrying the shit out of this industry.
"Video games aren't fun anymore!"
-says the guy who only plays COD, Minecraft, and Sports games.
Fr
This is how I feel too.
I roll my eyes every time I see “video games just aren’t the same anymore”
Meanwhile I’m having just as much fun playing Minecraft with my friends now as I did when I was a kid.
That’s not even mentioning all the other games you mentioned in the video + indie games being the best they’ve ever been.
Agreed.❤❤❤
theres definitely an argument to be made that there's more "garbage" games, but theres also way more great games to match them
@@antoguinoIt's probably that there were a ton of garbage games back in the day, but people only remember the ones that were good or at least enjoyable in their own way.
@@BlackJacked this guy gets it
@@antoguino
People don't know about the video game crash. That gaming era was literally characterized by having too many trash games.
A lot of these opinions come from people who just play shooters, or only play games from 90s-2000s franchises that have been creatively exhausted nowadays. And mobile games.
Branch out lads!
Not sure if you'll see this, but I'll throw my hat in the ring:
I think an issue not talked about is how some people make games their entire life. Like- No other hobbies, just stay in the house 24/7 playing videogames. They burn themselves out because all they do is game, and often hyperfixate on a game until they run their enjoyment of it into the ground.
As much as it is a meme these days- I really recommend for people feeling burnt out to take a step away from the controller. There really is so much more to life then the latest COD.
Full grown adults wondering why the action of playing doesn't feel the same as when they were kids.
People who make “video games aren’t good anymore” are the people who keep playing the same game and don’t branch out.
ill be completely honest
most of the whole "woke bad" arguments just feel like "woman character does not have massive badonkers, 0/10" but actually taken seriously somehow.
Aloy is literally so beautiful and like even considering her lifestyle in the game she still looks good.
Not only that but I find her to be a character I can really relate to.
11 months ago the guy who made the "video games are fun anymore" video made a sequel to it called "Video Game Are Fun, Actually" about soem new games that are fun.
It's all about the engagement. In a year he'll make a video called "video games are not fun again".
@@thevinisoIt's all about views
@@factory_enslavement
The irony.
I need to remark, It doesnt have to do anything with this video, But I really starting to consider the "X isnt Y, actually" as a new annoying video title template, idk tho
"Video games aren't fun anymore" mfs when you tell them that a game will get stale after playing it for 5 years and that there's more genres than just shooters and sandboxes
2023 alone was one of the best years of gaming. There were sooo many bangers released. To say video games are boring now a mere year later is a you problem, not a video game problem.
"videogames are better than they've *ever been*" FUCKING YES. OH MY GOD THANK YOU. We have games coming out nowadays that if you showed someone in the Wii era they would think you're lying and that it's not real.
bro thank you I see all these videos and I’m like “play different games dude” like it’s not that deep lmao
you know what? i love this message. i love this whole video. it is a positive view on a terrible situation where nothing seems to be getting better, but they are!
the loud voices of slop will not drown out the quiet whispers of brilliance.
Just consume product and don’t ask questions
@@DionPanday i am not denying that we should protest, i think i should clarify. we absolutely should protest with the AAA directors, who are making terrible games with overworked people, or sometimes intentionally trying to make an actual scam. that is bad, and we should try to stop it.
i think this video is trying to show us that there is still light, that there is still hope for videogames, even triple A, but it still agrees that there is a bunch of terrible stuff coming out. it's just that the loud voices of slop are louder than ever now.
@@Rustylorde No this video is clearly saying I know games aren’t as fun as they used to be but you could you like please ignore all that and pretend everything is a okay? Oh games are pandering to minorities? Just ignore it, oh indie games use nostalgia and don’t offer anything truly unique? Just ignore it. And if you really want to pull a strawman just say the people who are criticizing only play the same 5 popular games despite having no evidence for this. Because like we all know if you don’t like a badly prepared meal, eating a completely different meal will magically fix the original badly prepared meal. K thx bye.
@@DionPanday did we watch the same video? i got the message that: "there are bad things, we should not support them. but there are some better things, you should support that." if a positive attitude and spreading hope seems like "ignoring the bad things of games." the last part of the video is trying to be advice! try going out of your comfort zone, try new things, stuff like that! not everyone plays a lot of different games!
if you think that pandering to minorities (which all games do, there is no everyone game) or using nostalgia as an indie game is a bad thing, i'd like to hear why
nothing in the world can ever be truly unique anymore, there is just too much stuff to make something new that has no parts that are used elsewhere, but they can be different enough to tickle that dopamine factory.
@Rustylorde I think that other guy may be too fair up his own ass to engage with others in good faith, but I do give you kudos for still being polite. I don’t mean that sarcastically! That can be rare to find online nowadays
Playing half baked AAA or returning to the same game over and over again then say it's not fun is like only going to one fast food joint and say nobody makes good food anymore. Like a certain guy in FC3 said, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different result.
Saying you should try indie games over triple A games is like saying if you don’t like the fast food joint terrible cheeseburgers you should order their milkshakes instead. How does that fix their terrible cheeseburgers?
What@@DionPanday
@@Bongbongo huh
@@DionPanday uh that analogy doesn't work tho, indie game and AAA game doesnt come from one company (or a fast food joint in your analogy). And to answer that, if you don't buy shitty AAA games and go play something else then yea, maybe it'll make AAA companies actually try to make good games.
@@rency1803 I guess using your logic all shitty triple A games come from one company?
This reminds me of people who complain that music is boring and bad now as well.
People who try AAA for the hundred times despite being advised to try other games like indies and AA.
It's all about views and clicks man, it's the engagement, easy to bait people watching them. This is why people like YongYeah, LegacyKilla makes money.
I've seen a lot of AAA fans write off indie games as "quirky RPG about depression." It sucks.
@@foppypoof5195 I've seen "Banjo-Kazooie ripoff", "yet another Metroidvania", and "failed Smash clone".
@@X2011racer Those are the people that out themselves as ignorant when it comes to indie games. What's funny is that those same people go on to buy the next cookie cutter AAA game.
@@foppypoof5195 They also chew out indie developed games based on AAA IPs, such as Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp, Streets of Rage 4, Sonic Mania, and Battletoads (reboot).
@@foppypoof5195 They also chew out indie developed games based on AAA IPs, such as Advance Wars 1+2 Re-Boot Camp, Streets of Rage 4, Sonic Mania, and Battletoads (reboot).
That Dune comparison was just... so apt.
I don't think people realize how self-defeating it is to get at AAA gaming for shitty business practices, but then adamantly refuse to check out a side of gaming that's reaching the same level of scale and quality *without* corporate seeping in.
Come a few years, we will have individuals making 2077-type games that are actually finished at launch. *Without AI.*
"Tell me you only play Ubisoft, Bethesda, and generic FPS games without telling me you only play Ubisoft, Bethesda, and generic FPS games."
"Videogames aren't fun anymore."
People often forget that, There's games you can buy on Steam right now that were hit classics YEARS ago during the "Peak" of gaming that you can get for real cheap as well and play. Best part, It's always gonna be in my library of games.
Back in 2012 when I was like 14/15 and opened of Steam, I bought Half Life 2, and Gmod and many years later they're still there but also plenty of older pc games cropping up on steam that I have been giving a shot since they came around.
Not only that but Emulation, Nuff Said.
Honestly people gotta argue about everything on the Internet
People are worthless.
People keep conflating the "Triple-A Industry" to gaming as a whole.
Yeah, if you keep looking to Bethesda, Activision, Ubisoft, and Microsoft for your games no kidding gaming is going to look like soulless trash.
Support smaller studios, niche genres, or just go back to play older games.
this. scream out about the current industry and support these actual artists as much as possible so they don't get bought out and determined by shareholders.
It's a sin to want the big names to make great games again?
@chuck No, it's just never going to happen.
@@ChucksSEADnDEADNo, but that doesn’t mean gaming as a whole isn’t fun anymore.
@@bat6353The only hope i have left in the AAA scene is Valve, they have never missed on a release.
I bet those are the kind of people that play online games waaaaay too much.
I can tell, because some of their arguments goes like "Imagine being a kid, booting up your windows 7 and hanging out with the bros, having a few rounds on (instert generic shooter game name) every night. Yeah, those days. But it's not the same anymore".
Yeah it's cool and all, Brrrooo. But those are just memories. Move on. Just because those days are over doesn't mean that gaming in general is boring.
I too feel that way. I miss 2020 when I used to talk a lot with people and EVEN play online with some of them, even for a little.
Nowadays I just focus on my personal life and watching anime/cartoons and playing Sonic games whenever I feel like it. And despite the fact that my life now is boring. I never blame it on games.
Even when I do the typical "boot up the pc and play nothing" dick move, I don't think for a second that it's because gaming is boring.
It's just that life got fucked up over time, that's all.
There is a saying that goes "life is what you make of it" and I couldn't agree more with this statement.
If I was in the right position, I CAN make my life way more fun than it ever has been and bring back that joy of gaming.
Maybe someday.. maybe someday....
As a gamer in his 30s. Games are not boring, you're only getting older. The novelty is off, you've seen everything and the more you play, fewer and fewer games are going to be appealing. It's the sad truth
I don't think it's truly possible to see everything, but you do definitely see a lot, and you notice more and more when things repeat, when you wouldn't notice when you had a more inexperienced set of eyes on gaming.
And sometimes, you just need a break from the genre or from gaming for things to feel fresh again.
if that was true why are younger generations less and less interested in gaming?
Then expand your scope of the games that you play,not just the triple A slop being put out nowadays
@@symptomofsoulsCitation needed 🤣
@@Stettafire I used to work with children, gen alpha does not play nearly as much video games as gen z does. Gaming is declining
These are the same people who dont like to call themselves "casual gamers", but only ever play the most mainstream slop
Not to mention even in the mainstream there are so many great games, they just refuse to explore
@@sluggastar2 Yeah, they play games that only Twitch streamers.
You would think if they are mainstream gamers they would play Super Mario Wonder, possibly the Splatoon trilogy, the Metal Gear games (even just Revengeance), some better acclaimed Final Fantasy games, including just 7 Remake series, some platform fighters, Celeste, Hades series, Binding of Isaac, etc. All are popular, good, accessible, and stuff like that.
It feels like people only play AAA Games and dont want to play AA or Indie Games it really feels like people dont want to play out their comfort zone.
Fully agree with your points
THATS EXZCTLY WHAT IM SAYING
none of those new games do anything special at all
Elden ring is supposedly the best of its era(its judst dark souls 3 with open world) BUT THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT GAMING AS A WHOLE 😂
these people dont get that the golden era was pure innovation NEW IDEAS QUALITY LEFT ZND RIGHT DEPTH COMPLEXITY CREATIVITY
When do we get inception of those franchise ??? In the 2020s ?!??!
NOPE NONE OF THE CURRENT DEV HAVE THE LEVEL OF THOSE OLDER ERA DEV THAT MADE THE INDUSTRY
Its blatant obvious that modern gaming stand no chance even on the video the guy play a xbox 360 game proving our point again
And indie games are just worse version of already better games
Hollow knight was just a metroid/castlevania rip off that cant compare facts
Indie fanboys refuse to accept that gaming died after the best devs quit and the era changed
Nope all gaming genre are worse now thats not even a debat eif you played all type of games
Its the fortnite battle royale fanboy that say muh its boring because they never play anything else but its worse
@@Hajimeme7 Do you play anything else? from the way you’re peddling your complaints you make it seem as if you haven’t played any new games for the past 20 years
@@Woopor let’s do this just copy pasting his bad points all over. He doesn’t even make any arguments. He just kind of vaguely claim stuff. He’s the audience for the original video game Suck now, and he is really really annoying.
@@Hajimeme7 They want that victory royale lol
All these videos always give me the same vibes as:
Let me tell you something about modern gastronomy. Food is fucking mid nowadays. It's so bland and boring. It's just not the same. Maybe I've grown out of food
I've only eaten cheese sandwiches and instant noodles for 15 years btw
"I guess even if you force back what was lost...it still wont be the same way it was"
As someone who never played games as a kid and only started getting into it a few years ago I never experienced this issue, playing these modern classics for the first time is awesome. It just seems like people prefer to whine and complain instead of doing something productive or fun
Yes literally same. I was looking for a comment like this.
Consuming and whining are the sole personalities of the most vocal gamers.
"gaming is dead" - A person that only plays Cod, Halo and Battlefield
Even if you olay niche genre its worse than ever
Thats the thing the golden era consisted of AAA dev being gamers that cared wanted to make the best of the best while having fun
Look at this video he himsemf prove that by using a xbox 360 game why didnt he pick a recent game ? Because it exactly is superior
We had so many new genre ideas innovation created
Inception of new franchise now where is all this ? Nowhere
@BlackJacked wich lead you to the old school stuff again proving the point of these videos
FIFA MADDEN 2K COD Battle royales has always been garbage games for frauds
But you guys always target these people so you avoid facing the facts that every indie game is a worse version of old games
Hollow knight is a pathetic attempt at ripping off castlevania/metroid and fail miserably
And thats the best indie game according to the indie crowds
If this is what best indie can do idk what they will when fighters rts and other quality gaming genre are on the table
Indie games dont bring nothing new to the table if you have grear taste in games its just worse version of old stuff
@@Hajimeme7 please just be a sad old Man somewhere else. You’re not even making any examples you’re just claiming vaguely.
@@Hajimeme7 ....Jeez dude, that's, that's sad.
@@gusgilmanreal hé litteraly used hollow knight as an example, are you blind?
Everyone wants to remember the great games that came out back then. Then they like to forget about the shit we got. Ride to hell retribution,mindjack,and all those horrible movie license games.
for people saying "games aren't fun anymore" maybe you should look in the mirror
"If you're stuck in the past, you won't be able to enjoy what's in front of you"
I'll add that also what is behind you! I recently started playing NES and SNES games on emulators and it has been a blast! There are great games from the past that people ignore. I've been playing Contra, Punch-out, Kirby, etc. FOR FREE. It really is just a matter of looking hard enough.
The people that repeatedly complain about how modern gaming is dead, while only playing games from the big companies (Ubisoft, EA, Activision), should learn to broaden their comfort zone.
I find it funny when people say that Nintendo only makes bad games nowadays, and then they almost exclusively talk about pokemon games.
Mfs be nostalgia farming talking about “why games are no more fun” and go absolutely nowhere with it while showing old gameplay.
Thanks for even the thumbnail, you have to look deeper than games that have the biggest marketing budget to find games with heart and passion
The best thing I did for my gaming hobby was picking up another, totally unrelated hobby. Fishing has gotten me not just off of video games, but away from my PC entirely. It makes the time I do get to spend on my PC in general, but especially gaming, feel so much more meaningful. Im also spending more time with my friends and grandfather!
It’s frustrating because you know they don’t really mean what they say, not really. Usually, the statement “there were no good games this year” is just a misplaced critique of the fact there were no good games THEY liked this year. I’ve seen this exaggerative take when it comes to movies as well.
I didn’t think it needed to be said, but just because there isn’t an abundance of media catering to your interests, doesn’t mean an entire medium of entertainment is to blame.
Capcom’s run has been legendary
They also all use wojacks, which can always tell you the stuff they say is dumb
So true. You can’t use wojacks for silly dumb memes and also use them for serious thoughts and topics at the same time
@@mrcoolman333 plus a lotta the memes that use them are usually pretty messed up.
@@UnderBag Like that Then v.s. Now meme
@@Gamerboss40YT or tradwife memes
@@UnderBag true
When gamers realize there’s more to games than just AAA and even by that I mean there’s more to AAA than Cod, Madden, 1st Party Exclusives
And if you really want to be an asshole about this lmao there’s more to AAA games than First person shooters
You probably stink irl.
these times looks like that picture of a bus where one person is looking at the mountain side while the other is looking at breathtaking view of the valley .
"gaming is boring"
me who never gets played a childhood game in my life: "then go play outside"
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Gaming isn't boring we just need to find the right game
I no joke finished sekiro like 7 times in a week or two modded it and am replaying and I still enjoy it
Sekiro is one of the few games i bother to platinum, I don't give a sht about trophies but sekiro is so fun that i literally use platinum as an excuse to keep playing it
@@Radec_G exactly I am not a completionist but this is the first game in which I just keep coming back and finding something new
Notice how people who make the same gaming is ruined video play the same slop for years on end.
It is not hard to get out of your comfort zone and find something new. Gaming has so much to it beyond the mainstream titles
So mainstream gaming is hot trash, got it.
I think another thing to add is that people also just need to find other hobbies
variety even outside of games makes life so much more interesting
go for walks, learn new skills, make something, find new shows or movies to watch, read a book series you never finished as a kid, revisit something you loved as a kid and see how it’s changed for you, doing that is an eye opening experience and at least for me has really changed how I viewed things from my past
there’s so much to do in life, so many new and old games and so much variety that I think limiting yourself to only 1 genre or 1 hobby is just dull
there’s also just a general problem of really hyping up nostalgia and putting so much emphasis on it when nostalgia really isn’t the end all be all
gaming was not perfect back then whatsoever, and it certainly isn’t now, but I think we need to stop looking back at time periods and be like “this was the peak everything was downhill and it was perfect then!!” just because we were kids
The shoutout to indie game developers was so appreciated! People forget how much creativity and love indie games are made with, and their level of popularity speaks to how well theyre made, especially considering they have to fight every step of the way to make a name for themselves against these multi-million dollar companies and their more well known titles.
A lot of people who say games are boring now either
A) Play the same games over and over with no variety
B) Have lost interest in gaming as a whole as they've gotten older and think everyone should feel the same (they tend to say stuff like "if you're above x age and still play games you need to grow up")
C) Don't really play games anyways and are just making a video for views/to capitalize on how bad a lot of modern releases are
Gamers are so dramatic
"Gaming is dead!" says the person that owns a PS5, the latest Xbox, a top of the line GPU and CPU, and only plays AAA games like Warzone.
Meanwhile, I'm just having fun with BeamNG's new career mode, playing old community maps in Sven Coop with friends, trying out different Minecraft modpacks or going back to old versions, playing Half-Life 2 with the Fake Factory Remaster mod and seeing all the cool changes and improvements... gaming is only dead if you're stuck in the corporate present. Look anywhere outside of that, and you see it's actually quite alive. You just need to give money and attention to those that deserve it.
Imagine if everyone just stopped focusing solely on Ubisoft, Activision, and EA, and instead just talked about the good shit coming out. Actually, you don't really need to do that. Just look at the tactical shooter community. Those creators make one video about how Insurgency Sandstorm got bad, and then 10 more about cool new games coming out, dev interviews, the like. And it's the one space in gaming that I'm actually seeing get better over time. Crazy, right?
"Games aren't fun anymore" mfs when I tell them to play Pikmin 4
It’s kinda like music. People who say music is getting stale usually listen to like 3 genres. With video games some people usually stick to two types of games. What’s unfortunate for video games is that companies are looking to make the next Fortnite or GTA online.
Microtransactions aren't micro. They aren't usually even minitransactions and are sometimes macrotransactions.
This is the stupidest thing i’ve ever heard because video games are better than they have ever been,and that’s just litterally a logical fact,these people just can’t believe they have grown up and are in a diffirent time and therefore take nostalgia over everything😂
I'm not a fan of this "trend" either, but you have to understand their perspective. We all experience gaming in different ways. For some, a sense of local/online community is more important than variety in titles or genre. Others may have fond nostalgia for the simplicity of games they played as a kid or teenager, and disassociate from the corporate minefield that plagues their favourite series' years later.
Yes, there are still excellent games being made today, especially when we take into account indie studios. However, fun is subjective, and you can't simply tell people, "Why don't you just play good games instead? That's why you're not enjoying it." This is especially when you take into account that a lot of gamers do, and always did, view games as merely entertainment and escapism.
In which case what the best thing to say is would be "Games aren't fun *for me* anymore"
Completely agree! More people need to have a positive outlook on gaming.
i've never understood the sentiment of gaming being "dead" or "dying"
To list my own currently installed games in my steam library for a moment to illustrate what you can find if you branch into multiple genre's (or even a few niche games in some more mainstream genres):
Barotrauma - Full release in 2023, still getting updates - 170 hours played
Battlebit Remastered - Still in early access and still getting updates - 55 hours played (and rapidly rising)
Darkest Dungeon - Released in 2016 no longer getting updates - 110 hours played (got the game in 2023)
Deep Rock Galactic - Released in 2020, is soon going to have another major update and a new game like it is on the way - 370 hours played
Factorio - Released in 2020 and is soon going to have a major DLC released - 170 hours played (majority of that within a single month)
Fallout New Vegas - released at the start of time and is still one of the most narratively pleasing games to play to this day (and if modding counts then gameplaywise too), 240 hours played
Forts - Released in 2017, still decently actively updated - 130 hours
Foxhole - Released 2022, is one of the most unique games (let alone MMO's) out there and while it has problems, no game will make you feel like a cog in a machine more than this - 240 hours played (and endless hours thought about, seriously I don't know why)
From the Depths - Released in 2020, still getting minor updates to this day - 110 hours played
Kerbal Space Program - Released in 2015, No longer updated - 450 hours played
Noita - Released in 2020, still receiving updates occasionally and is one of the most cryptic games out there - 80 hours played
Project Zomboid - Still in early access and is in active development - 180 hours played
Ravenfield - forever in early access because solo dev moment, recently got a new update for improved modability - 300 hours played
Risk of Rain 2 - Released in 2020, soon to get a new DLC - 140 hours
Space Engineers - Released in 2019, is somewhat still developed with what looks to be a new game on the way with a newer (and frankly very impressive) engine - 220 hours
Stellaris - Released in 2016, is a paradox game so you better believe there's still DLC being cranked out - 170 hours
Team Fortress 2 - released before time itself, is effectively abandoned but is still incredibly fun - 880 hours played
Terraria - Released just after the start of time, final update is totally coming soon and then the game wont be developed (its going to be developed until the heat death of the universe) - 350 hours played
Valheim - Released in 2021, just received a major update and is actively being developed - 150 hours
These are the games that I semi-regularly play on steam, god only knows how many hours I've played Minecraft for or many, MANY other games that I've got lying around (cough, Voices of the Void, Cough) or games that i played on other devices, but the games I've listed alone make up probably half of my steam playtime. there's around 40 more games that I've played over 30-50 hours of and had my fill over the past few years (as well as a few that I've got over 400 in and just don't play anymore or have just become lost in the list of over 100 titles in my library that I've simply forgot about)
New games don't fit your fancy? look between the cracks and find niche communities that surround insanely addictive games, or play older games that have long since acquired cult status, they often have for a reason. chances are you can find niche games in the genres you normally enjoy and one might just hook you.
Your comment deserves more likes and attention. You did a great job breaking it down.
When people say gaming is dying, they are talking about an era where almost 90% of the games are high quality in storytelling, gameplay, innovation etc etc. The fact that you said "look between the cracks and find niche communities" is a testament to this, because back in the old days, you didn't need to. You enter a store, you see the first row, and they are all amazing games. Today, the first row is filled with AAA games that are buggy, messy and filled with microtransactions.
Project Zomboid is goated.
Ironic that Battlebit Remastered is mentioned there as it's literally a throwback to 3/4 era Battlefield.
@@jimmorrison903 this
I'm currently sitting at 600 games on my Must-Play games list, with another 600 games on my wishlist, knowing I'll likely die from old age before I get through them all. Whenever I hear people saying that there's nothing to play or nothing good, I just can't help but wonder how they've managed to get through 40 years of gaming content already while I'm struggling with a single year's worth of releases. I genuinely love video games and there's some absolute crap out there, but there always has been.
Hilarious to see people looking at 2013 with nostalgia when I vividly remember the gaming discourse predicting a video game crash by 2015 due to the reboot culture that was coming up or in late 2000s when everyone said PC is dead and developers killed it due to bad ports.
To me, it sadly seems to be just a ton of people stuck in their comfort bubbles and with a lack of critical thinking about these types of things. If their favorite childhood game series doesn't hit the same way during their 4000th hour on it, then suddenly the entire medium is dead.
To that statement, I have three things to say:
1. My PC is too weak anyway, I don't understand your problems because I rarely play new games.
2. Nothing stops you from going back to Morrowind (I literally did that a few days ago and it's one of the best decisions I've ever made).
3. Elden Ring, ULTRAKILL, Baldur's Gate 3, Cyberpunk 2077 (got fixed from what I heard), Lies of P, Armored Core 6, Dead Space, and those are only the ones I know about and could remember.
I feel like most cod players life would change if they played titanfall 2 or apex
For me it’s take a breaks from the same 2 games I play on a daily basis and go play other games.
true I play the batman games way too much
subbed for the bangin' music choice, can't wait to see what you channel has 💙💙💙
It’s not that game development itself has changed all that much, it’s just where the good shit went…it went indie, for artists realized they don’t need shitty Ubisofts to release their Raymans.
Although that’s more of a rule of thumb, go indie or go creatively broke.
Par la Rêve, Pour la Rêve!
I am bias towards indie gaming vs triple ass budget, but I am willing to give credits to the mario+rabbids or even just the Captain Laserhawks of the world. (I.E the few good games within triple ass gaming & even the mediocre but surprisingly fun titles even though the example I cited was a Netflix fauxnime, not a video game.)
Gaben is such a chad for releasing the deck in the golden age of indie games
If you find games to be boring, ypur playing the wrong one
Did u guys know that there’s a thing called: replaying your childhood games or another thing go replay the modern popular games in general?? Hell I didn’t know that until I thought about in my head lol
The irony is 2023 is probably one of the best years in gaming history.
please explain to me how
@@sagaris93 Baldurs Gate 3, Alan Wake 2, Hi Fi Rush, Phantom Liberty, Spider Man 2, Tears of the Kingdom, RE4 remake, Dead Space remake, Jedi Survivor, Lies of P, FF16, Armored Core 6, Blasphemous 2, Super Mario Wonder, Cocoon.
Lolno.
@@mickeyveach3612 A handful of good games, does not good year for gaming make.
@mikeity2009 a handful? I named more than a dozen, each one at nearly A+ quality. That's more than nearly any year can ever say. It was a low point of industry workers, but a high water mark as a consumer, which was the point of view I was coming from.