The Basics of Patrol Formations: How to Move Tactically Outside
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2024
- In this short video, we attempt to give you the most basic look at patrol formations. We only show you three, and we really only scratch the surface of them. For more information on these formations, check out almost any military infantry manual, and attend some small unit tactics courses. We offer them thru Blake Flannery,  www.oriontraininggroup.com/s/... , and a couple other companies here and there may offer them if you look hard enough online. There’s also other UA-cam videos out there on the subject.
In other videos we will expand on these topics.
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In the SUM, SUS, and FAM classes we cover formations first at the Fire Team level (3-5 people), and then at the squad level (3-5 teams). Before we cover formations we cover billets, or jobs within the Fire Team and the patrol/ squad. This makes the formations make a bit more sense, and after these couple classes we go out and practice the formations with their associated signals at the team and squad level. For the Patrol/ Squad Leader and the Assistant Patrol Leader, we cover their duties and responsibilities and those billets are performed by myself and Alex Manor. Alex is my AI for these classes and another Marine veteran.
Formations are determined by the terrain and likelihood of contact, more open the terrain and/ or the more likely enemy contact the more open your formation should be with greater security. Dispersion is determined by visibility, so less open terrain/ brush your dispersion will tighten and in more open terrain/ brush your dispersion will lengthen. Often as the formation moves to one of greater security, so will too your dispersion. Formations are not based off the blasters carried, rather it is on the small unit leadership to place those various blasters in the right spot based on the formation.
What was covered in the video is a mere fraction of what we cover in the class. Patrolling basics, billet duties & responsibilities, formations, movement techniques, signaling, immediate action drills, tactical control measures, and a lot more.
The right thing is to train and to devote time to email, write and call you State and Federal Representatives and Senators to the point you're flooding their email servers, mail rooms, and switchboards with your opposition to the anti-training bills. Bring up that because under our system all adult citizens who are able are the Militia. Thus citizens should form up together with their fellow citizens to train to protect their homes and communities.
Thank you I really enjoyed your relaxed demeanour and content I have always wanted to know.
I saw on your site (maneuvertrainingsolutionsllc) that you dont have a place to conduct courses right now, when do you plan to be in full operation?
Disagree with this sort of organisation. As an Australian army veteran. Essentially you are a para military organisation. Training civilians in the use of firearms and tactics. This sort of organisation encourages violence. Join the Army if you want to learn these skills. NO wonder there is so much gun related violence in America!
@@1932christianI have been to Sydney Australia. We are not like you. You have a monoculture society on a island. America is a multicultural society. I have a dangerous violent City 6 miles from me.
Our Police force clearly can’t protect us.
Our Borders are wide open. The Drug Cartels are invading our Country with military grade weapons. Where is the Federal U.S. Military and our Border Patrol?
Our Military is not meeting its recruiting goals for a reason. We just fought a 20 year War on Terror. We saw how the Democrats treated our Warriors.
America may break up into multiple Countries.
Good luck on fighting the Chinese on your own. We are not coming to save you like we did in World War Two.
Just waiting for that coffee cup to get backhanded onto the ground.
now I'm invested
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Lol
Probably the greatest come t I’ve ever seen😂😂😂
Lol😂😂😂😂😂
Start training now. There are bills in multiple states and a federal bill to ban this kind of training. They are worried and dont want trained civilians.
I wonder why are government will send billions over seas for weapons training etc but citizens of this nation are expected to not train and to be disarmed fuck that nonsense
Can't speak for the states but the federal one is DOA. Basically no one in Congress really supports it. Just a update.
Can't speak for the states but the federal one is DOA. Basically no one in Congress really supports it. Just a update.
Is a sign of weakness that regime feels the need to even consider does options.
@@randomlyentertaining8287 I saw the same report. These bills will not pass
Massive increase in style points. Same reliable, solid lessons. UA-cam never dreamed of achieving these heights
Much appreciated, from a civilian in the other side of the ocean, but with a will to learn this type of stuff, I can't thank you guys enough for letting us in on the knowledge, I can't wait for the next videos. Please keep them coming.
Aus? wouldnt mind training with others.
@@thespartenkid unfortunately no, I love Australia 🇦🇺 but I’m in Portugal 🇵🇹, but thanks 🙏
You're _in_ the ocean? So you live in a submarine or Sealab or something? Or maybe you're a mer-man. 😂😂😂
@@slappy8941 no Mer-Man I only like the beach 🏝️ 😉
I love how you are in a blown out setting, cozie by a fire. Explaining how we got this far
FYI all this info is in your basic infantry hand book and for you civilians you can buy them at any army surplus store very helpful I still have mine from 2005
I remember only using one arm/hand for signals due to the whole keeping your dominate hand still holding your weapon - good refresher thu!
This is a common theme, but keep this in mind: if you're signaling then you aren't shooting. So we can afford to take our hands off the blaster for more effective communication, however, many signals only require one hand so you can maintain better control of your gear and re-index it more easily. If you open up a doctrinal pub from the Army or Marines you'll see a lot of signals for the squad and platoon use two hands and arms, which we do cut back on with the signals we teach in class.
We only ever used one handed signals in my unit, so it was a non issue.
This was extremely digestible and understandable. I've seen some other videos that give a lot of good information, but don't present it in as good of a learning format. As someone with minimal SUT knowledge, I really appreciate that approach. I'm looking forward to seeing the next video in this series.
Excellent! Field tactics are a necessary skillset for the responsible citizen. Please expand this series!
My man! Love that you are wearing our old cammies. Jigsaw for the win!
Talk about bringing back memories...good stuff. Getting people interested in learning these things now seems to often be difficult. Getting them to learn and apply hand signals, fieldcraft, etc. After SHTF they will have interest...and more importantly motivation, but darn difficult to train them when everyone is keeping the wolf away from the door [so to speak] and growing crops. We have just adopted a one day a week class. The worry is whether we can keep everyone interested and more importantly motivated, or whether the boredom monster creeps in.
Thanks for the video, Jarrett. Concise instruction and excellent visual representation. Well done.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Over head movement shown VERY helpful
Great video guys!! Love the over head drone footage to help people visualize the formation(s). More on this topic please!!!!
Appreciate the content. If you put together a video series on the topics mentioned sure plenty of ppl would buy a DVD for the library.
I love the end message. Thanks
Thanks for sharing this info, I appreciate all your work.
I remember being down in Benning learning this in AIT and I loved every minute of it . I went in when I was in my 30’s and it was dream come true living out my playing army as a kid days in a war time training situations. Some of the kids didn’t take it seriously and idk how they ended up you would hope they learned when with there units after AIT .
Great presentation. I think it was very informative and straight to the point plus the fireplace adds even more cool points will definitely be back for more videos.
My friends and I appreciate your content very much please keep it up. Good refresher, and or basic concepts to learn.
We're all watchlist buddies now 😁
Love the information here. Missed being a soldier growing up in military barrack.
For expanded patrol formations, platoon size, squad size movements, see US Army FM 7-8, and, TC 3-21.76 the 2017 revision of the Ranger Handbook.
The best patrol handbook I've ever read/implemented: The Vietnam Primer, by Col. David Hackworth, ret. (RIP, Sir!)
15 KISS simple chapters, which very much overlap the above listed pubs, which are official, whereas this is authored by the late and great Hackworth, pubd decades ago. Genius in simplicity.
I read Applegate's "Get Tough" around fifty years ago....Solid stuff....I never stopped digesting info. I'm not sure who, but I also read about knife fighting , which actually saved my life...That time is when I went cop. So sick of violent thugs preying on the sheeple kn Commifornia.
Holy shit that book costs $211
Excellent basics. What you call FILE, at least in the past, the military called COLUMNS in basic form (derived from marching formations). For consideration, I might suggest that the first man (point man) constantly maintain attention forward -- from ground to horizon and to both foreword sides. It would be the second person that periodically checks to the rear and directs movement to the point (by SOP, this may be the formation leader.) Thanks.
Great video. Thank you so much.
Awesome! Would love to take part in some training, and it's in my state now! I also appreciate the extra Dad advice at the end!
Thanks for sharing.
Love this channel ❤
Very good, thanks. Drones really help a lot today to underline the explanations. 🙂
Really looking forward to you expanding on that going for Hasty L reacting all that stuff.... explain this to us
Thank you very much I'm sure glad i found your channel.
Enjoyed this video, basic and easy to understand and absorb, thank u.
Great Job!! Basic NCO stuff for Dummies thing here...I LIKE IT.."Alot". Props.
That intro was epic. Nicely done
Great video fellas thanks 🤙🤙🤙!!!!
No matter how old or young u r u should never stop learning .
Awesome video
Good video, clear information and demonstration. When I was a squad leader in OIF we used reverse wedge a lot for road with high IED threat so I preach including that in the basics but don’t take that as a criticism, thanks for the video
new subscriber here. I appreciate that outro. great topic to understand.
These are all movements I learned in the Marine Corps. Yes they are basic but require situational awareness if you get engaged and knowing what to do
These clowns would never survive first contact..
I'm wondering who the hell everybody's training for?
Everybody's yelling civil war, so shouldn't they be shooting at each other?
The part they are missing is it's the United Nations on standby with Chinese peacekeepers to deploy here especially for that Civil War..
I'm just x signal corps what i know..😂😂😂
Very interesting way to signal a column. Never seen that before, I was waiting for you to do the palm up windmill. Actually seems way more descriptive and “covert”.
Inspired backdrop.
I do not like two-handed signals. There's no reason to take both hands off your weapon. Even from a point of convenience. 🤙🏽for a wedge is sufficient.
That's how I was taught as well🤙 especially coming out of a wood line. Also you move into that formation at the spot the point man gives that hand signal and not how theses guys did it in the beginning of this clip. At least that's how I was trained to.🤷🏾♂️
And I was taught ✋🏽 means hault. ✊🏽 Means freeze, imminent danger. It's a useful distinction, and pretty sure it's basic army doctrine.
If you're signaling, your aren't shooting or even in contact. You can afford to take your hands off the blaster, and these signals are more easily distinguishable at night. If you look at the doctrine from the Army or Marine Corps, you'll see that many signals involve both hands and arms. We do cut back on this, just as we all did within our units in the service, though there are still some signals that involve both arms for speed and efficiency in signaling. If you train enough as a team, signals become nearly obsolete as the team and squad will simply move into the necessary formation as they see the terrain and visibility change.
Good Job.
I know this is off topic but your set up given we're still in winter is very cozy!
I'll say ! Nothing like a fireplace
Helpful information ℹ️
I found this interesting, something’s found to be not quite right. That might be because this is designed for regular people. For those watching this, take the time to look at the Infantry FM. This will explain more of what we really do as infantrymen. This is close but there are a few things to learn and learn what they are done for and why. Like point man following a compass or marking sure you stay on a predetermined course, but choosing a path to go. Or correct hand signals, a few of which can change depending on your unit.
we need this video
good
Good "intro 101" for people who have never been exposed to this material.
Ok, so I watched the whole video, and I have a few observations.
First, formations are chosen based off of a few different things, not just terrain.
-Speed vs security; any infil route should be graded with reagrds to risk of contact, so you choose the correct formation based off of that so you can prioritize hasty movement where possible. Single file is the best for movement (especially in snow), line formation is probably the worst.
-Terrain; some formations are better than others in rought terrain, with regards to maintaining movement speed as well as communication
-Visibility/communication; as stated in the video, you need to observe the next man in the formation 1) in order to make sure everyone is still in the patrol and 2) to pass on any hand signals that are relayed. Formations chosen must facilitate that, and will be affected by terrain and visibility
-Risk of contact; as you near an objective, say you are advancing to contact, you choose a formation that 1) gives you more firepower in the direction of movement/contact area and 2) gives you flexibility in reacting. We do a wedge formation differently, in that we have one fire team in an inverted V, and the other fire team trailing behind in single file.
It is also very important to practice changing between formations on the move.
Formations should also include fixed places for each member of the patrol/squad, and pre-defined area of responsibility. This makes it easier to train, and you know which team member is where during low visibility. As an example, in a 6 man recce patrol you could have Pointman - Patrol Leader - Comms - Medic - SAW - Rear Security (Patrol 2IC). Each person will have pre-determined roles during a long halt, or when setting up a patrol base or OP.
It was said in the video that "in the real world", dispersion would be 20-30 yards between each person. Yeah, no. That is not doable if you are moving in terrain that provides some cover, which most people doing this are. In addition, limited visibility will affect dispersion. 5 meters/yards is a good base line, and you can stretch that out a bit if you are forced to move through more open terrain, but 20-30 yards between each person is not doable. Especially if you look at it in the context of a platoon moving.
Hand signals; not sure if the ones shown in the video are developed by OTG or if they are taken from the US mil, but it is usually not recommended to have signals that involve having the hands in front of the face or body, as it can be difficult to see during limited visibility.
Re short/long halt, I donj't believe the 360 circle shown in the video is a good example of a long halt - it is more commonly used during a short halt. A long halt means you will be staying put for a while, and in a SUT context, that means that you do a fish hook into a covered position, post security on your trail, and maintain security 360 while taking turns doing what needs to be done; comms, eat food, change clothes etc.
Final observation is on the term "maneuver". I think a lot of people use that incorrectly. Maneuver is moving forces on the battlefield in relation to the enemy. Movement is either IMT'ing or internally in the squad when bounding. Ref "Fire and Maneuver" vs "Fire and Movement".
Not being former military and living in an area I can't locate like minded neighbors, I appreciate these videos, because trying to absorb this information strictly through reading has severe risks and limitations.
I would appreciate any help in how to find like minded neighbors, because going through what's coming down the pike, solo, is a recipe for disaster imho.
Nice video, I know there is a day and night time signal for all of these formations you talked. Some of them used in the video we used it at night in the army and used a different signal in the day because of visibility.
awesome video! Cheers from Brazil
Coordinated and determined Citizens are the biggest threat to any hostile government
Biden Administration has been giving you guys the human centipede treatment for years now, and ya'll are doing nothing about it haha
These are basic maneuvers we did in the army. But good review. 👍
As a ranger, I suggest, even if you know all these formations and other various movements, it is good to stay sharp. Because unfortunately, we may have to use them again and come out of our retirement.
Nice video 👍🏼
Could you imagine being a pointman in the super thick foliage of Vietnam were you can only see you 3 foot circle or less around you.😮
You should certainly study drones, capabilities and limitations….. study how they fly, train to spot them. …. This is how you will be targeted…
Remember a drones main mission/
RISTA/ reconnaissance, intelligence, surveillance, targeting acquisitions.
Study counter unmanned aerial systems ( CUAS) …
Your maneuvers are certainly important, but you can’t maneuver effectively, when you don’t know what the full spectrum of capabilities that face you really are.
Drones are grouped into categories…. Group 1 through 4… all with different capes and lims. Very important for ground elements to be aware of.
What is it called when last man sets the step-off point/check point after a halt/pause and counts heads as everyone passes? Not the head count but the setting of a "gate" for everyone to walk thru.
good stuff
Nice contents
“Pointman looks out for paths to keep their buddy’s feet from getting too wet.” That’s fucking hilarious.
Should rename this clip to “Patrolling in wonderful world of Fantasyland.”
I will consider that title thank you
🤘=column
🤙=wedge
Different SOP's for different units but ours were like how you had them. His seemed more general in a learning sense
Also you want a bigger visual at night, easy to miss a hand signal@@stevenbrooks7787
My Anxiety For That Coffee Mug Being Knocked Off Was High
You guys putting this content out to the public is based af.
That intro!
Thanks to J. B. This is now neccessary
I hate to say this, but Arma 3 is a good way to understand how these formations work. I know there’s no replacement for real training, but it’s also okay to blend technical understanding of a concept with something fun
Your short halt signal was freeze for us and meant some near danger spotted. After freezing, we would very slowly lower to the ground, preferably near cover.
The fire 🔥 😆
During the day it is 10 - 20 yards. You only shorten it up during night ops. By ranger S.O.P
More of this.
The log falling and the explosion would have been a nice jump scare but ruined by a perfectly timed ad.
Why do virtually no training schools have a land warfare and small unit tactics course? I guess one warrior effectively gives this training but I’m curious why more schools don’t offer this, is it simply logistics or they rather you just go to one west Airsoft annually for this outside of 11B benning school?
Logistically burdensome and high cost/time investment for students. We do half a dozen of these a year.
Because it's not the sexy shit that these IG influencer tactical training companies push because they are more concerned with teaching footwork and other useless shit rather than basic fundamentals in warfighting. Cost and logistics reall have nothing to do with this. This is basic infantry shit.
Nice fire side chat. I see where the criticism of LARPing comes from now.
Where’d you get the knee insert M81? Always had a soft spot for the old woodland and bugs me that Crye only has unicolor and OCP patterns
What is the watch on your wrist? It’s like a mix of a g shock and a train watch I have.
you should make manuels and books on training and exsercies and formations...and etc
In the works
@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 Cool thanks for the reply
Grab some friends, go outside, and practice these.
Especially as the government is trying to ban this training.
The most important info in the entire video was at 19:00min
Formation according to the terrain
I hate the fact that this could be watched by the wrong people, but also glad to have watchdd.
The next class: movement.
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IE: Traveling, Traveling Overwatch and Bounding Overwatch.
I have a few issues with the graphics and exact meaning of hand and arms.
Fist up means “freeze” as in stop all micro movements.
Wedge is diamond shaped, with one in the middle. Not the V or A shape that was shown.
Good stuff either way. Just nit picks from a combat OEF SSgt
I appreciate the training. However, I wonder how practical it is at the time to respond to an attack/ambush.
I imagine then, that there should be another training and exercises that prepare the troops to keep the formation through the panic and stress while under a hostile encounter.
I mean, how not to disperse keeping formation while responding to the attack?
Yeah it's called battle drill 4. Reacting to ambush. This is basically infantry shit.
You're referring to immediate action drills, which we cover in class.
Turn and burn
@@Blakewater0326 Oh great! Then, the training does exist.
You really should only walk a straight line unless theres a minefield or risk of immediate entrapment. You can cover more of your flanks traveling in horizontal line instead and communicate threats accordingly.
Edit: Additionally having your team leader up front can actually jeopardize your operations should you or they become injured which is much higher if they are up front and traveling into a dangerous area.
Using greenside techniques combined with camouflage is more fun, then playing tier 1 for me anyway.
No mighty ducks flying V 😢. Lol jk
damn that eat your veggies bit really hit
thanks. Are there more of this on r-uh-m-bl ? Since u mentioned “toxic” Yu-tewb
Arktis pants? Do you like them? Mine are decent but not amazing.
I agree
New here!
Where can I train like this with trained professionals ?
File is also used when movement has to be fast and the threat level is low.
Rocking my jpc2.0 RG. Drinking a jocko fuel, and lifting sum weights while watching this. U should be too
Remember folks, none of this video matters unless you practice these formations frequently and in the correct situations
What do ya need to patrol abything for ??
I want to join your training course
Imo, diamond is superior to wedge. It's easier to move in and it works better if engaged from a side.