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  • @dennistavares4648
    @dennistavares4648 6 років тому +627

    I am the owner of the wall and can say 8 years later it is fine nothing has fallen off or broken and the cost to do the job was perfect 0 dollars

    • @youarerightboss
      @youarerightboss 6 років тому +11

      Dennis Tavares, good for you.

    • @artcore9886
      @artcore9886 6 років тому +22

      So they did this in 2009?

    • @medjools7643
      @medjools7643 6 років тому

      Since you already had a masonry wall I think I would have used brick ties, about 4 per 16 inch and 2 per 8 inch. I think that's great that the wall hasn't fallen apart but I wouldn't have done your job without the brick ties, just to cover myself

    • @j8ke937
      @j8ke937 6 років тому +13

      and took 8 years to produce it. Sure Dennis.

    • @6whatisit6
      @6whatisit6 6 років тому +3

      Looks beautiful!! Good job Dennis and good to hear from you.

  • @dennistavares4648
    @dennistavares4648 6 років тому +113

    I have to smile at the comments on fake stone.. no it is real stone individual stone pieces put in a panel and once again again nothing has failed on the wall 8.5 years later::thank you Roger and Ask This Old House

    • @GK5_
      @GK5_ 6 років тому +24

      Dennis Tavares half these people have never heard of ledge stone. Lmao

    • @alexisjankowski3281
      @alexisjankowski3281 5 років тому +2

      Looks real nice!

    • @javee-th5no
      @javee-th5no 5 років тому +1

      I gotta say ur a badass 4reals. I respect an Alpha Male putting in work cuz I'm a DIY type guy also.

    • @luckyvet
      @luckyvet 5 років тому

      Dennis, its nice to hear the job was free, were the materials also free? Just curious. It looks amazing btw.

    • @Rikkcas
      @Rikkcas 4 роки тому +1

      It’s real stone, but the proper term is ‘natural stone *veneer*’.
      Not to be critical.. but there are also a lot of vertical running joints going up the wall in close proximity.
      More proper masonry is to cut or make adjustment to avoid repeat, joints like that. I get the idea of keeping it simple... I’m just saying, so others are aware. This was laid more like tile than real stone, imho.
      With veneer stone, you can get away with it. But if it was actually real, full thickness, ledge stone, it would be considered a weak joint pattern. The exception would be if a repeat ‘grid’ pattern was being used.
      I’m saying this because I was a masonry contractor for over 40 years, from a family of Italian masons and terrazzo workers. In a ‘real’ stone wall, a close vertical joint layout like that would be susceptible to cracking along the joint. There should always be sufficient seperation and distance on a running bond like that. In this case, simply flipping the panels over in spots could have eliminated that.
      Other than that, it looks very nice. Good job. 👍🏼

  • @AussieWife3746
    @AussieWife3746 5 місяців тому +1

    We built a cement block well house which protected the well and all its equipment very well during extreme weather then we used stone veneer over the cement block. It looked awesome.

  • @davec.3198
    @davec.3198 5 років тому +4

    There are some scratch coat mixes that are made to go over paint. As long as it is not a high gloss...it works really well. I think it has special modifiers in it that bite into the paint. I have 1,300lbs of stone veneer in my living room all the way to my cathedral ceiling on a cement block wall that was skim coated and painted when i first moved in.

  • @ES-fr3yz
    @ES-fr3yz 8 років тому +74

    to do this job for rogah you will need:
    stone veneeah,mortah,wotah and hammah.

  • @jaimeriquelme6727
    @jaimeriquelme6727 5 років тому +3

    Hi Roger, more than 2.7 mil people have watched this show, amazing, you doing a good job mate,good on ya, greetings from Sydney.

  • @randomsecrets
    @randomsecrets 5 років тому +11

    I love the finished look! Roger is one of the greats! I watched this 5 years ago when they posted it, and was happy to see it in my recommended videos today. I always notice something i missed the first time when i re-watch This old house videos! - I love them all! :)

  • @jameswatson7778
    @jameswatson7778 6 років тому +2

    This video is good in that it shows you the general thought process and steps required to do this sort of project, but as many have pointed out some of the details are a bit iffy

  • @fredbosco6104
    @fredbosco6104 4 роки тому

    Roger, Norm, Tommy & Rich are God's in this show. I am amazed at how perfect their calculations are, how flush their end products become and how easily they explain stuff to us.

  • @gilguzman8359
    @gilguzman8359 7 років тому +3

    Nice video.
    To make the last row of uneven cuts, you can place an uncut piece up against the top edge of the cap stone, then place another stone below it, mark it with a pencil, cut the piece and, viola, it's a perfect cut. Tile layers to this and it makes the job of cutting pieces faster and more accurate.

  • @mrgallbladder
    @mrgallbladder 4 роки тому +17

    4:09 holds it at a 15-20° angle.

  • @Cambone13
    @Cambone13 8 років тому +573

    We want the mortah to have the consistency of peanut buttah

    • @Fusdew
      @Fusdew 8 років тому +32

      And that's hwaf an ench ov pourtlend mortaw

    • @coldin71201
      @coldin71201 8 років тому

      +Cambone13 Hahahahaha!

    • @coldin71201
      @coldin71201 8 років тому

      +Bobby Taylor Hahahahaha!

    • @toojkool4984
      @toojkool4984 8 років тому +18

      I think I got the instructions wrong. I kept putting the mortar into 1 pot and the sand into 3 pots. Not working.

    • @OU81TWO
      @OU81TWO 8 років тому +24

      No. It's cause you're using "mortar". You need to use "mortah". It's a different thing.

  • @youarerightboss
    @youarerightboss 6 років тому

    Roger is a smart and generous man.

  • @rokpodlogar6062
    @rokpodlogar6062 7 років тому

    the classic roger enthusiasm. hope he gets like this again.

  • @vitaliykhomichuk9811
    @vitaliykhomichuk9811 4 роки тому +7

    As a mason, this is tough to watch lol. Im glad it held up and nothing fallen off.

    • @honeelemon
      @honeelemon 2 місяці тому

      Why do you say that? I’m planning on putting the same kind of stone on a cement wall too.

  • @dhollm
    @dhollm 8 років тому +61

    Doing the top course of tapered pieces before the cap would have been a lot easier to mark & cut.

    • @briantetley8954
      @briantetley8954 7 років тому +4

      My thoughts exactly. Scribing those cuts would have been lot simpler.

    • @palmerprod
      @palmerprod 5 років тому +1

      He most likely had wet cement to use up before he made all the cuts.

    • @davec.3198
      @davec.3198 5 років тому

      Good thought.

    • @drleo2641
      @drleo2641 4 роки тому +1

      That's why they didn't show them cutting it. Because it was a total b****.I would have installed it, let it dry. And cut it off with a concrete demo saw. Have a man with a leaf blower behind me so I don't become a snowman

  • @Eduardo-tq5sk
    @Eduardo-tq5sk 6 місяців тому

    That's awesome I learn it to help a friend family! Thank you for your generosity...

  • @Mrjohnboyd1959
    @Mrjohnboyd1959 7 років тому +5

    Incredible acting. ""Roger, this is just amazing!" It moved me to tears....

  • @CaptainGreenTea
    @CaptainGreenTea 4 роки тому +17

    Did the wall get up and move to the other side of the garage???

    • @kkknotcool
      @kkknotcool 3 роки тому +1

      Didn't you pay attention.
      They already did the stripping and base mud on the left wall before Rodger showed up.
      That way they could show a whole wall being done in a one day shoot.
      Otherwise you would have to strip and mud one day and come back to do the tiling later.

  • @giacomopeters9988
    @giacomopeters9988 5 років тому

    What an outstanding idea! Our builder left our foundation exposed and ugly! I would have to remove some dirt to get at it. I think I would have it done because I no longer have that kind of stamina to do big jobs. Thanks for the idea!

  • @SteveBueche1027
    @SteveBueche1027 5 років тому +8

    Hoff an inch? That’s not on my tape measure! Lol
    Great show guys👍🏻

  • @mariamendoncs6788
    @mariamendoncs6788 4 роки тому +3

    Dont forget to caulk the bottom joint to protected from water as it penetrates the joint and freezing in the winter which will lead to detiriation.

  • @steelydanfan100
    @steelydanfan100 7 років тому +3

    Good video. I am going to comment that Quikrete makes pre-mixed mortar for tile installation, I doubt seriously that the beginner DIYer is going to mix this stuff up on his/her own. Also, the mortar does need to be somewhat dry, it is supposed to stay on a trowel when the trowel is turned to 90 degrees from horizontal. Wetting the tiles is what makes the bond activate, not a runny mortar mix.

    • @zackzander425
      @zackzander425 5 років тому

      Wetting the stone helps prevent the moisture from transferring out of the mortar to the stone too quickly causing it to flash cure.

  • @PezzOnaytor
    @PezzOnaytor 6 років тому +9

    Rest In Peace letter “R”, you will be missed!

    • @20pawranch
      @20pawranch 6 місяців тому

      Did Roger pass away?

    • @Ari-ll1wp
      @Ari-ll1wp 3 місяці тому

      He just doesn't say the letter "R". He might neveh say it again.

  • @pavilliontreasures2699
    @pavilliontreasures2699 10 років тому

    Exactly been doing the same prep for a walkout basement but got paint to remove. Used the gel stuff but needs more and power washer was doing great at @ 2300 psi but popped a whole in the hose. Just bought the darn thing but got new hose and going to tackle it again. Face shield helps but its a mess in a confine area. Going to put on that sticky bond when done. I got the older version of stone veneer mixed with different manufacturers for ledgestone(craigslist) but should be great once finished.

  • @glorygloryholeallelujah
    @glorygloryholeallelujah 2 роки тому

    I am absolutely LIVING for these accents!
    🤣❤️👍

  • @heppylifestyle
    @heppylifestyle 2 роки тому +2

    superb vid -- details are explained and it's concise! thank you!!

  • @MarceloApparatus
    @MarceloApparatus 8 років тому

    the best chanell, thanks of Brazil (Montenegro-RS - south Brazil)

    • @adrielchagas2167
      @adrielchagas2167 5 років тому

      Cara sabe onde axo esse moldes e fórmulas ??

  • @nightcoder5k
    @nightcoder5k 6 років тому +1

    I would put the caps on last because with the caps on it's a bit harder to measure the triangle pieces.

  • @jasonwood5730
    @jasonwood5730 6 років тому

    I bought a refurbisher sander, Porter Cable, it's got some sweet sanding pads for everything, tough too, I would have added a plug on each wall an ran Led light under the cap stone lip on each side to show the wall off at night , an keep non driving people from hitting it,

  • @FrankWu
    @FrankWu 4 роки тому +1

    Another optional for removing the paint from concrete area wall is to use a Diamond cup grinder bit. for removing

  • @Aezelll
    @Aezelll 8 років тому +17

    For an expensive exterior job like this I would really want to see mortar spread on both substrates, and have it a bit wetter. I really think those top caps are going to just flake off eventually. Mortar too try and probably not a lot of bonding power to the top caps.

    • @rocketsauce08
      @rocketsauce08 8 років тому +1

      +natty4now nobody cares about your output

    • @tomself6505
      @tomself6505 8 років тому +1

      nobody cares about your input, output, or anti- American ideology. Cultured stone built this cuntry, mortar dry, wet or otherwise!

  • @Fkidd702
    @Fkidd702 5 років тому +21

    “ let’s bond”
    Haha

    • @mrgallbladder
      @mrgallbladder 4 роки тому +1

      Any part of you that isn't wet? Let's bond!

  • @marcosmota1094
    @marcosmota1094 9 місяців тому

    We love you Roger!

  • @veronicianyveronica5290
    @veronicianyveronica5290 5 років тому +1

    Mike Haduck: If you want it to stick you have to wet it first!

  • @godbluffvdgg
    @godbluffvdgg 8 років тому +59

    The setting mortar was WAY to dry...You can tell the old guy worked with his hands for many years..:)

  • @rorybellamy2533
    @rorybellamy2533 8 років тому +50

    Roller for the bonding agent...

  • @ashkrikorian5753
    @ashkrikorian5753 3 роки тому +3

    Great video! I have a question, why can't you just use thinset to bond the stacked stone to the concrete wall? I plan on a similar project soon. One will be indoor and one will be outdoor. Both will be built roughly 4' high, and then covered with the stacked stone... I was under the impression I can use regular thinset mix. Would that not bond well enough?

  • @dennistavares4648
    @dennistavares4648 6 років тому +53

    I have current photos of the wall 12/11/17 not one piece is missing from it or has ever fallen off

    • @oerc201
      @oerc201 5 років тому

      what stones were used?

    • @ashyclaret
      @ashyclaret 5 років тому +3

      Any links?Or do we have to take your word for it.lol

    • @iancrossley6637
      @iancrossley6637 4 роки тому

      I did a wall on my barn 25 years ago and it's held up fine.
      I believe the trick is that what we called Milk. It's the bonding
      agent, expensive but it make the project last.

  • @pandaDotDragon
    @pandaDotDragon 6 років тому +1

    Great. This little wall is stronger than the house ^^'

  • @danallan171
    @danallan171 8 років тому +2

    Good job! But we would have put all the wall units up first so that we could scribe them from the back! Just saying! Also mortar seemed a little tight when setting caps, to dry and it wont bond! Keep up the good work Roger!
    Dan Allan , Capital Concrete Contractors Inc. 38 yrs experience.

    • @VidzMisc
      @VidzMisc 8 років тому

      +Dan Allan i agree with you Dan, exactly the way i would have done it myself

    • @zackzander425
      @zackzander425 5 років тому

      This ^

    • @sentry9834
      @sentry9834 5 років тому

      Dan, can construction adhesive be used to bond stone veneer to a substrate instead of cement mortar?

  • @thomaswild9044
    @thomaswild9044 4 роки тому +6

    The only confusion that I have is it appeared the first layer of motor dried before all the stone including the cap was set in place.

    • @drleo2641
      @drleo2641 4 роки тому +1

      The scratch coat was supposed to be dry. That's why it looked dry

  • @vipleather
    @vipleather 9 років тому +9

    Mortar was a little dry. Would have used a notch trowel after I buttered the stone. 3to1 is too much sand. 2to1 would had made a better bond.

  • @SuperPussyFinger
    @SuperPussyFinger 5 років тому +3

    I've never seen a project on This Old House that I could actually do.

  • @KevinBolsajian
    @KevinBolsajian 6 років тому

    Don’t you just LOVE the way he says Mortar

  • @john38261
    @john38261 8 років тому +4

    This type of stone you use thin set same as you would tile. I've layed it loads.

  • @886014
    @886014 7 років тому

    Wow, I normally like TOH videos, but this one was a shocker!

  • @BillyOnYouTube
    @BillyOnYouTube 2 роки тому

    I wish you'd show the process of measuring, marking, and cutting the stone

  • @pacificdynamicbuilders4380
    @pacificdynamicbuilders4380 8 років тому +36

    stick your tile all the way up the wall. then cut them off with the grinder, run your cap.

    • @EpilepsyWarning
      @EpilepsyWarning 7 років тому +1

      great idea man

    • @jasonponciano6823
      @jasonponciano6823 6 років тому +4

      I think the vibration from the grinder will just gut out the tiles off the wall you know...

    • @andres783
      @andres783 6 років тому +9

      You can butt them in to the wall, run a pencil/marker line parallel to the wall to mark your cut, then cut. Easy, simple, no issues.

  • @LoraineMojicaMcCall
    @LoraineMojicaMcCall 4 роки тому +1

    Do you have to wait a full day from mudding the wall to installing the veneer?

  • @KewlCrayon
    @KewlCrayon 6 років тому +2

    Why'd you put the cap on first before the cut pieces?

  • @silver60618
    @silver60618 Рік тому +1

    Can you use Type S mortar? or does it require the special mix blend?

  • @jgyrwa
    @jgyrwa 7 років тому +1

    I enjoyed this video and your country twang. Great job bro! You were technical and informative of your trade. Video production was good too.

  • @garybrown9719
    @garybrown9719 5 років тому +1

    Epoxy paint is the best bonding agent.

  • @patmonroe1989
    @patmonroe1989 4 роки тому

    Dennis, I just purchased this for a back splash for a reworked stucco fireplace area. My fireplace guy prepared the old stucco surface by scraping the old stucco off, putting on bonding agent, adding the netting, and the mortar, then the stucco. We left the stucco off the back splash area in order to lay the tile. The man doing the tile says I can't put that stone on the wall without it leaking because it is glued together with no grounding. I told him we are sealing the stone before and after, Is he right?

  • @dturk1022
    @dturk1022 8 років тому +1

    Does all the prep work, up to applying mortar on the wall, need to be done for a bare concrete wall?

  • @stlchuckhd
    @stlchuckhd Рік тому +1

    Wow! Awesome 😎🇺🇸!!

  • @therealamirhere
    @therealamirhere 7 років тому +1

    Nice work on the whal!

  • @AnnaLVajda
    @AnnaLVajda 4 роки тому

    Looks great not sure why they did not finish all the pieces before capping it but it looks great finished.

  • @The702Ghost
    @The702Ghost 5 років тому

    Thanks for the share! Gave us lots of awesome ideas we can do for our dull and very large walls. This video also was very informative and gives a grasp of DIY. 👍🏼

  • @edgardoamado7008
    @edgardoamado7008 4 роки тому +1

    I just came for the comments 😹

  • @WhitewalkerII
    @WhitewalkerII 8 років тому +10

    "Looks like a dry laid wall" :D I've never seen a dry laid wall like that

  • @2stepdvm
    @2stepdvm 9 років тому +1

    Was the wall grouted at the end. I have used this tile and have had to hand grout it.
    The over engineering/ technique is good to show for the beginner. A master may have different techniques to save time.

  • @Kievlar
    @Kievlar 5 років тому

    I wanted to see how was the connection between the wall and the top. How it looks and and how can the top stay put strongly.

  • @Pwn3dbyth3n00b
    @Pwn3dbyth3n00b 4 роки тому

    The when winter comes the ice is going to pry that right off.

  • @djunderwood4059
    @djunderwood4059 2 місяці тому

    Can you do this the same with a cinder block retaining wall or do I need to do anything different?

  • @ramyantunez8406
    @ramyantunez8406 8 років тому

    that's easy to do .you can see me do that in the chimney that's amazing job

  • @zackzander425
    @zackzander425 5 років тому

    The "moretah" he is buttering the stones with is a little too dry. You want it to push out when you press the stone tight to the wall. That way you will get a strong bond; it will almost feel like the suction of a vacuum if you try to pull the stone off after you lay it. Also don't use a mallet. To get the stones to adhere to the wall better again use a little wetter mortar and rub them back and forth. If that was on a wood framed house the vibration will make all the other stones you just set fall off. I see more good than bad though if manufactured stone is the route you decide to go.

  • @Daemiex
    @Daemiex 7 років тому +8

    is it just me or does it look like the tiles arent sticking to that already drying wall?

    • @electrocomm
      @electrocomm 7 років тому +2

      Not just you. If you move the tile on already dried mortar then the poorest adhesion is guaranteed.

  • @howardgilmour8464
    @howardgilmour8464 8 років тому +1

    Cheers. Enjoyed the video.

  • @atirocks
    @atirocks 11 місяців тому

    Can someone recommend an adhesive/epoxy/mortar and grout good enough for extreme frost and thaw cycles? Im retiling my porch because it wasn't done correctly before and every year tiles will come off during winter. I live in southern Ontario, we can get nasty ice storms. Im using textured porcelain tiles on a large porch exposed to all the elements. Please advise.

  • @Jowamana
    @Jowamana 5 років тому

    i love it, that's how my chimney looks like

  • @MrGrasham1
    @MrGrasham1 5 років тому +1

    Can I use grout ready mixed instead??

  • @joesmith2959
    @joesmith2959 4 роки тому +3

    “ what we want is the moatah to have the consistency of peanut buttah” 3:03

  • @mixingreen
    @mixingreen 7 років тому +3

    how long did you wait after the scratch coat was layed to apply the stone?

  • @Fiberglasser03
    @Fiberglasser03 5 років тому +5

    Looks like the mortar was too dry when they put the pieces on? I'm no stone guy, just saying.

    • @cesarin6378
      @cesarin6378 5 років тому

      Travis B yea that owner wasn’t making peanut buttah he made it like cookie dough

  • @meganjarvis7970
    @meganjarvis7970 5 років тому +1

    Love your video, but any suggestions for a contractor who will do this here on long island NY----? Suffolk County-?
    Want that done here, can't find anyone to help me get that going..... Please help.Thx.🤓

  • @billcoley8520
    @billcoley8520 4 роки тому

    That looks really nice

  • @vermontthinstonenaturalsto7099
    @vermontthinstonenaturalsto7099 8 років тому +1

    Excellent work!!!

  • @yohighness
    @yohighness 8 років тому +1

    Awesome stuff, guys!

  • @m.w.6526
    @m.w.6526 3 роки тому

    Could you do this same exact process for a cinderblock wall inside a basement?

  • @autosalvage
    @autosalvage 8 років тому +1

    Great information!

  • @qstrian
    @qstrian Рік тому

    Vertical spacer to accommodate warm weather expansion, This Old House?

  • @LovemeAquarius
    @LovemeAquarius 8 років тому +20

    Good and informative. The sand that you used seems not that good. I can see a root at 03:17 in your mixture.

  • @dodojack1045
    @dodojack1045 2 роки тому

    Does the scratch coat have to dry before starting with the rock veneer..?

  • @LesAnderson45
    @LesAnderson45 4 роки тому

    I have a very flat cement wall 6 metres by half metre high, do you think I might get away with adhering to to the wall with a silicone gun containing something designed to stick concrete and is a little flexible?

  • @CRyan71
    @CRyan71 7 років тому +1

    the scratch coat should have been left for 24 hours to dry. then wet it before applying the stone.

  • @Bird_of_Hope
    @Bird_of_Hope 5 років тому +1

    *#Questions**:*
    *_1._*_ Can you stick granite to concrete countertop directly?_
    _★If not then what to do?_
    *_2._*_ Can we just place a rubber mat of 1cm thickness over the concrete and place the granite countertop over the mat directly without sticking it with the rubber mat?_
    Someone answer me please... 😫🙏🙏💓

  • @taqveem
    @taqveem 2 роки тому

    This gives me an idea 🤔

  • @mariovidmar7
    @mariovidmar7 7 років тому

    what about exterior house walls , what pros or cons would be to use tiles instead of stone or other conventional cladding ?

  • @patrickoneill6297
    @patrickoneill6297 2 роки тому

    According to manufacturer, scratch coat is not needed for adhering panels to concrete. With all the videos and guides, you are the only one that adds scratch coat. Thoughts?

  • @vr4bastard353
    @vr4bastard353 6 років тому +49

    that is some dry looking mortar, for the love of god add some water.

    • @Elijah-Bravo
      @Elijah-Bravo 3 роки тому +1

      Are you kidding? That’s the perfect consistency.

    • @rustywiggins1863
      @rustywiggins1863 3 роки тому

      It looks dry to me as well.

  • @babyfrank66
    @babyfrank66 4 роки тому

    I know for some people looks hard buy is too easy , what I do is real trimming stone work we start from cero we drill and split huge rocks after that we cut the stone with lot of tons of pressure and then we trim the stone with the hammer and many stone tools and is ready to be use for any kind of job , and that's why people stone work is expensive.

  • @donedwards5301
    @donedwards5301 4 роки тому

    It looks great. Any thoughts to doing a staggered joint with the pieces? Just wondering. When laying flooring, I would try to do this so repeating layout would not be apparent.

  • @DrAfunguy
    @DrAfunguy 4 роки тому

    The video shows them prepping one curved wall and then cladding the other straight wall. Can someone explain how does one fit the flat stone veneer on a curved wall?

  • @sasapavlovic7515
    @sasapavlovic7515 4 роки тому

    Bravo amerikanci to svaku zemo zna

  • @omegapointil5741
    @omegapointil5741 8 років тому

    So what did you do with that gap between the tops after you got the inch overhang?

  • @gdoumerc1984
    @gdoumerc1984 3 роки тому

    That wahl looks wicked haat.

  • @YAWN....
    @YAWN.... Рік тому

    Use a roller to apply concrete sealer

  • @buckbuck9225
    @buckbuck9225 5 років тому

    What do you have against thinset? Nothings gonna hold better.