Excellent comparison. One thing to consider, La Marzocco warranties require a TDS between 90-150 and a pH within 6.5-8.5. The only water in this comparison within their specification is Third Wave. Considering the fact that it's based on distilled water as the input, Third Wave should provide the most consistent results as well.
I think this is a bit of a misleading/failed comparison because it ignores actual water hardness The elements that cause scale [read: kill espresso machines] are not TDS (total dissolved solids, aka organic materials etc) but Instead total HARDNESS, which is the amount of minerals like calcium and magnesium salts of carbonate that are present in the water. These are the elements that manifest as scale in your boiler, not TDS. Google search TDS vs Total Hardness to see what I mean
I suggest making your own water at home with purified water (R.O. or distilled), baking soda and Epsom salt. Super easy to do once you learn how to make your concentrates. You can experiment and get your ph levels and mineral levels (magnesium) to where you want them. The concentrates which I store in a 1 liter glass bottles last a long time so it makes it very economical.
@@Rundik Mineral waters have way too much dissolved Ca and Mg, that is why we call it "mineral" water. It is good for your body, but build limescale inside your coffee machine way faster and also affect the taste of your coffee.
La Marzocco's water specs are 90-150 TDS and 6.5 to 8 pH so Third Wave is within that range without filtering. Obviously the filtered tap water could vary widely city to city. They do suggest Crystal Geyser if it is filled in either their CA or SC locations.
Nice to see you back, hope your pouch gets well soon🤒, as you know i have the BWT pitcher with ion exchange filters, and have made my own water so i loved this vid, i find it all very interesting. Good job 👏😁👍😎🇬🇧
Hi Dylan, I stared by using bottled water,but to much waste. Now I have TWW, but finding it a bit expensive, so lookink for recipes. I also have BWT pitcherwich is great, but the TDS of our tap water is over 240, we have artesian well. According to SCAA , the TDS should be around 150, 85 seems like on the low side. So far for me TWW is the best tasting and my bench mark for making my water recipe. But those test only patially touch the subject, calcium magnesium sodium potassium are all important, but then again that may be going to far. Keep up the good work Dylan, really interested in seeing your own recipes! Cheers!👍👍👍
You answered my question from a different video. Your experiment was very informative.........👍 I can see why plumbed would be better option because the water tech would sample your tap water and advise on the proper filters.
Recommend looking into the baristahustle recipes and making "Third wave" water yourself. Just takes tiny amounts of epsom salts and baking soda. Also, highly recommend reading your GH and KH as these are what matter most. TDS is just a sum of all parts but gives you no breakdown of the percentage of each which can sway whether you end up with corrosion v limescale. Also, why are you filtering your third wave water after you have just mixed it? Filter first then add third wave
Going to a water store and having them fill 3-5 gallon bottles is the cheapest water on earth unless you want to set up your own water purification at home. It's usually RO and highly alkaline water is usually available at good water store but not sure what that has to do with coffee?
Nice to see your face, my friend. I'm sorry you're going through some personal struggles and also sorry to hear about sweet Ellie. (I saw the post on Insta)
Thank you again for all your support! We will all make it together! I am excited to be back! And making more content for you all! Ellie is doing better :)
It’s more up front cost, but will save you lots of money (and plastic waste) in the long run. The Berkey filters last for years (I clean mine twice a year using the advice from Tom at 3 Basket Living - check out his channel on UA-cam). You won’t regret going this route!
@@DylansHomeEspressoBar This might be too much information but this guy convinced me to not spend lots of money buying new expensive water filters. I tried this method the other day after having owned my Berkey for 6 months. ua-cam.com/video/rb-jjP504Lc/v-deo.html
So my question would be if your using reverse osmosis water and need more minerals in that would I just test the ph and tds of the tap water to combine those two to reach the levels for the numbers required for coffee water?
Hi lynda, one of hoons viewers mixes 1 gallon of tap water to 4 gallons of distilled water to get 85 ppm it could be dane or jamin i can't remember who👍😎🇬🇧
Great video Dylan! I been using R0 water with added minerals and the replaceable breville in my dual boiler. No problems so far. Keep up the great work!
Honestly, if you don’t test the water before and then after running it through your coffee maker, it’s hard to tell what is changed in the water versus just using simple distilled water when it comes to taste and also considering what is left in the machine that will need to be descaled or cleaned out later on.
Excellent comparison. One thing to consider, La Marzocco warranties require a TDS between 90-150 and a pH within 6.5-8.5. The only water in this comparison within their specification is Third Wave. Considering the fact that it's based on distilled water as the input, Third Wave should provide the most consistent results as well.
I think this is a bit of a misleading/failed comparison because it ignores actual water hardness
The elements that cause scale [read: kill espresso machines] are not TDS (total dissolved solids, aka organic materials etc) but Instead total HARDNESS, which is the amount of minerals like calcium and magnesium salts of carbonate that are present in the water. These are the elements that manifest as scale in your boiler, not TDS.
Google search TDS vs Total Hardness to see what I mean
I suggest making your own water at home with purified water (R.O. or distilled), baking soda and Epsom salt. Super easy to do once you learn how to make your concentrates. You can experiment and get your ph levels and mineral levels (magnesium) to where you want them. The concentrates which I store in a 1 liter glass bottles last a long time so it makes it very economical.
If you buy bottled water anyway you might as well just buy regular mineral water
@@Rundik Mineral waters have way too much dissolved Ca and Mg, that is why we call it "mineral" water. It is good for your body, but build limescale inside your coffee machine way faster and also affect the taste of your coffee.
La Marzocco's water specs are 90-150 TDS and 6.5 to 8 pH so Third Wave is within that range without filtering. Obviously the filtered tap water could vary widely city to city. They do suggest Crystal Geyser if it is filled in either their CA or SC locations.
Nice to see you back, hope your pouch gets well soon🤒, as you know i have the BWT pitcher with ion exchange filters, and have made my own water so i loved this vid, i find it all very interesting. Good job 👏😁👍😎🇬🇧
Thank you so much 😊 I am so glad you enjoyed the video! I am so happy to be back and Ellie is doing better
Hi Dylan, I stared by using bottled water,but to much waste. Now I have TWW, but finding it a bit expensive, so lookink for recipes. I also have BWT pitcherwich is great, but the TDS of our tap water is over 240, we have artesian well. According to SCAA , the TDS should be around 150, 85 seems like on the low side. So far for me TWW is the best tasting and my bench mark for making my water recipe. But those test only patially touch the subject, calcium magnesium sodium potassium are all important, but then again that may be going to far. Keep up the good work Dylan, really interested in seeing your own recipes! Cheers!👍👍👍
Thank you so much foe that André! I appreciate you and I’m so glad you enjoyed the video and I’m so glad to be back!
Hi Dylan. I hope everything would be fine at your end. Nice to see you back. Nice video. Keep up the excellent work 😊.
Thank you Ishtiyaq! Means a lot to me ❤️ I’m so happy to be back!
You answered my question from a different video. Your experiment was very informative.........👍
I can see why plumbed would be better option because the water tech would sample your tap water and advise on the proper filters.
Plumbing in is always going to be the absolute best way to go! You can ensure good water all the time
Recommend looking into the baristahustle recipes and making "Third wave" water yourself. Just takes tiny amounts of epsom salts and baking soda. Also, highly recommend reading your GH and KH as these are what matter most. TDS is just a sum of all parts but gives you no breakdown of the percentage of each which can sway whether you end up with corrosion v limescale. Also, why are you filtering your third wave water after you have just mixed it? Filter first then add third wave
Going to a water store and having them fill 3-5 gallon bottles is the cheapest water on earth unless you want to set up your own water purification at home. It's usually RO and highly alkaline water is usually available at good water store but not sure what that has to do with coffee?
Super great comparison, superbly done, thank you
Thank you ❤️ I am honored to make videos for all my subscribers!!
Nice to see your face, my friend. I'm sorry you're going through some personal struggles and also sorry to hear about sweet Ellie. (I saw the post on Insta)
Thank you again for all your support! We will all make it together! I am excited to be back! And making more content for you all! Ellie is doing better :)
I like it… awesome Name man.
Dylan, have you seen the suggestion levels for the La Marzocco Línea Mini ? They are different than those you are showing I believe.
I have seen the recommended water levels and that why I am going to start making my own water at home
Only because third wave water isn’t getting me quite where I need to be
My water after using a Brita is rated as 96 on my TDS meter. Do you think it's safe enough for the dual boiler?
I LOVE my Berkey Water Filter!
I’ll have to look that up!
It’s more up front cost, but will save you lots of money (and plastic waste) in the long run. The Berkey filters last for years (I clean mine twice a year using the advice from Tom at 3 Basket Living - check out his channel on UA-cam). You won’t regret going this route!
@@sylviadingwall5826 thank you so much 😊 I’ll look now!!
@@DylansHomeEspressoBar This might be too much information but this guy convinced me to not spend lots of money buying new expensive water filters. I tried this method the other day after having owned my Berkey for 6 months. ua-cam.com/video/rb-jjP504Lc/v-deo.html
If I’m using galloned water where I buy at a store and they just fill up my gallons is it safe for my dual boiler??
So my question would be if your using reverse osmosis water and need more minerals in that would I just test the ph and tds of the tap water to combine those two to reach the levels for the numbers required for coffee water?
You can do that! However I feel it is best to mix together minerals yourself and I will be posting a video soon on how to make water at home
But that is definitely an option if the numbers come out right!
Hi lynda, one of hoons viewers mixes 1 gallon of tap water to 4 gallons of distilled water to get 85 ppm it could be dane or jamin i can't remember who👍😎🇬🇧
@@DylansHomeEspressoBar I guess I need to read up more on levels and ppm lol! All so confusing
@@l.l.coolray I have a tds meter but never used it yet. Got some learning to do
check tap water with britta filter
Great video Dylan! I been using R0 water with added minerals and the replaceable breville in my dual boiler. No problems so far. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much 😊
awesome video, thanks man!
Awee thank you so much 😊
Where links for tds and ph meters?
I just added them to the description!
I'm probably not going to put my crystal geyser in a brita lol
Good on ya!
Honestly, if you don’t test the water before and then after running it through your coffee maker, it’s hard to tell what is changed in the water versus just using simple distilled water when it comes to taste and also considering what is left in the machine that will need to be descaled or cleaned out later on.
7:08 did u just say "alpline" lmao =]
Don't listen to this video. Not all Crystal Geyser is the same. Depends on source: Mt Shasta, etc. Look it up. Only some CG works.
Good video except fo the cringe introduction "whats up UA-cam"
this could've been a 5 min video, instead someone decided to not edit.