Are We Watching Movies Wrong - Subverting Expectations and the Betrayal of Luke Skywalker
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- Опубліковано 14 лют 2020
- Ever since the arrival of movies like The Last Jedi, where ideology demanded we toss away ideas like objective critique, the overwhelming division and backlash have caused some defenders to suggest that we might just be watching movies wrong.
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If the movie is "wrong", you did not watch it wrong. The makers made it wrong. You as the audience have no influence over a movie. You are unable to "watch" movies wrong. You can only watch them anyways.
Can't wait for 20 years down the road when they make Episode 10, and they dredge up Daisy Ridley just to make her a trash character that decided to kill everyone, and then the true hero is a gender-fluid trandoshan that identifies as a toaster.
Any major plot twist should be foreshadowed in a way that after the plot twist, the author can show evidence in the story that it was coming. Subverting expectations means hiding the evidence or obscuring it with decoys not omitting it. Then the plot twist evolves into a duel between the author and the audience. The author wins the duel, if the audience has the urge to collectively facepalm itself for not seeing the signs. The author will loose the duel (and the surprise element of the story), if the audience finds out about the hidden evidence before the plot twist occurs. Authors prioritizing the protection of the surprise element are obviously tempted to scale back on the evidence to the point of leaving none at all.
Haven’t seen the
Luke was not a GarrySue. He was ruled by fear throughout the original trilogy, his fatal flaw, painting EVERY decision he made. Yoda reads him like a book and spells it out for us and him clearly. But Ray is FEARLESS and why shouldn't she be? She was stronger than all her opponents from the start. No internal or external struggle. MarySue 100%.
Sadly you can make all the rational assessments of these movies and their "story telling" until you're blue in the face, but these ideologues can't understand anything past superficial representation. They don't care about a well rounded, meaningful character arc just so long as, in their mind, someone feels important about their decisions.
I think what makes this nihilistic attempt at story telling so frustrating is that it undermines what we all hope for: which is we all hope that at some point, our hard work and sacrifice is worth it.
Fall of Skywalker was a good romcom
The fact that in one breath people argue that the deconstruction of Luke and the Jedis is too adult and sophisticated for mentally childish man-babies to grasp and in the next breath they argue it’s just a story for children about space wizards shows they are not arguing in good faith.
We are definitely watching movie wrong. Studios expect us to just buy the ticked and then play Candy Crush for the entire runtime.
In the video game Jedi Knight 2, Luke has a student who murdered a fellow student, fled, became a leader of an Imperial remnant, trained his own apprentice, and led an army of Imperial remnants and artificially-created sith that almost destroyed Luke's academy. Through it all, Luke remained determined to see the whole thing through. It would've taken more than a bad dream and a rogue student to change his mind.
Expecting chocolate and getting caramel, is a subversion of expectations.
"You didn't complain when Luke Skywalker did it!"
The reason the argument "Its fiction so why do rules matter" is so shit because if they didn't matter then I can easily ask these questions.
OT: A good story told well.
"Forget the past. Slander it if you have to."
"Heroism is not about being perfect or always winning but breathing hope into the hopeless." This is why Mumen Rider vs Deep Sea King fight from One Punch Man is one of the best things ever put to film. Dude knew he was going to lose - knew he was going to die - but also knew that winning the fight wasn't the point. All he could hope for was to delay until hopefully someone who COULD win would show up, but at the same time he gave hope to the hopeless.
The real Luke Skywalker would've had a heart-to-heart with any angsty student of his - especially if that student was his own nephew. He would've given Ben a hug, and told him that "dark thoughts are normal, even for me, but they shouldn't define you". He'd have told Han and Leia, and they could've helped him together.
The Original Trilogy := The hero's journey of Luke Skywalker
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