MSFS 2020 vs FS2004 | Boeing 747-8 Landing!

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2023
  • README: This is a comparison of a FS2004 video I made in 2011 and Flight Simulator 2020 of a Boeing 747-8 landing at Paine Field (KPAE). The fs9 video was flown and recorded on a laptop with not so great specs hence the low quality. The difference is clear and as such I didn't think I needed to identify which version is which but if you still aren't sure, the left is 2020 and right is 2004.
    The 747-8f was freeware from Project Opensky while I use the default Asobo 747-8i in MSFS2020. Audio used is from both sims but more from 2020. I tried to recreate the video as accurately as I could. As for the landing it may not be as smooth or graceful but the mission was the same, to have another successful landing after a long test flight ;)
    FS2004 video: • FS2004 - Boeing 747-8 ...
    MSFS2020 video: • Boeing 747-8i Heavy La...
    If there is any aspect of FS9 you prefer over Asobo's 2020 version of Flight Simulator feel free to share that in the comments. Don't forget to leave a like and visit my channel for more flight simulator content. Thanks for watching!
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  • @vonKleist
    @vonKleist 4 місяці тому +267

    Fs2004 with a million Mods

    • @kinglizard360
      @kinglizard360 3 місяці тому +30

      yet looks more realistic and professional than a 2020 game

    • @captainelliot8767
      @captainelliot8767 3 місяці тому +8

      @@kinglizard360 Well you'd hope so with a million mods. Probably much more expensive too...

    • @undok
      @undok 3 місяці тому +12

      @@captainelliot8767 Lmfao FS9 Had the most freeware ever, smartest FS2020 GAYmer

    •  3 місяці тому +10

      @@kinglizard360 Only if you have a problem with your eyes! 🤣

    • @kinglizard360
      @kinglizard360 3 місяці тому

      I would prefer I realism ever blurry saturated pixart show@

  • @TheKingzAce
    @TheKingzAce 2 місяці тому +57

    Notice how old fs2004 . The wheels and gear make proper contact with the ground and do not look buggy compared to msfs2020. I dont know why Microsoft cant sort out simple issues.

    • @WorldAviationTravel
      @WorldAviationTravel 2 місяці тому +1

      Они не могут до сих рор убрать зависания видео карты при касании

    • @jesphillips2193
      @jesphillips2193 2 місяці тому +6

      The reason why the tyres in msfs stick through the ground is because when you make a plane in msfs there are ground contact points which haven't been designed to dynamically interact with the ground when using tilted undercarriage, which means the wheels will just glitch through the runway until the landing gear has fully touched down.

  • @SubDoesSpace
    @SubDoesSpace 2 місяці тому +54

    Those shots from FS2004 looks like real life footage to me somehow

    • @lucastan7995
      @lucastan7995 2 місяці тому +6

      its because we are use to watching them in videos which have low quality where as in msfs it is like what you would see in real life and not in a video

    • @althepsyphros3314
      @althepsyphros3314 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@lucastan7995 you actually want it to look a bit more like a camera than real life though, imperfections sell realism.
      Imperfections also hide imperfections. You don't want to see the game too raw. because then you see all the grainy low quality imagery, all the weird buildings, and film grain and bumps in the road and weird artifacts.
      I use a mod for fs2020 that makes it look a bit more like a camera quality, makes you feel like you're really watching real footage you can control.
      Fs2020 as it is just looks too smooth and dull.

    • @xeno._yt
      @xeno._yt 2 місяці тому

      ​@@althepsyphros3314I think I agree with you. Which addon are you referring to?

    • @althepsyphros3314
      @althepsyphros3314 2 місяці тому

      @@xeno._yt it's just a reshade thing + some Nvidia game filters

    • @Evanvincent1120
      @Evanvincent1120 2 місяці тому

      its makes it look like realistic camera quality

  • @WorldAviationTravel
    @WorldAviationTravel 2 місяці тому +2

    Fs9 до сих пор на хорошем уровне с аддонами. А какой там крутой Ту-154!

  • @PinniplaneWings
    @PinniplaneWings 7 місяців тому +29

    Wow, the video on the right is from 2011, 12 Years ago! AHH! Nostalgia Overload!! That was the era when I used to make FS2004 videos on UA-cam regularly!
    I have both FS9 and FS2020 and I still prefer the former over its modern counterpart, Yes, its graphic is dated, being a 20 years old Sim, but the amount of high-quality freeware planes and scenery in FS9 is simply unbeatable and It's what keep FS2004 fun to me.

    • @mmstraker1
      @mmstraker1  7 місяців тому +2

      I fully agree, even something as simple as the tower view or being able to move the aircraft's position on the map, those were good times indeed.

    • @johnstudd4245
      @johnstudd4245 4 місяці тому +1

      I'm still rocking with X , I like that better than 20. As mentioned by mmstraker, the better view interfaces are key. IMHO the "better" scenery in 20 is not that much better. And I have a boatload of pay ware planes for X.

    • @stephendavidbailey2743
      @stephendavidbailey2743 2 місяці тому

      2004 would not run on my new Windows 11 computer.

    • @TheSithTeacher
      @TheSithTeacher 2 місяці тому

      The 2004 747 is for sure a PMDG one, the MSFS is the default buggy one.

    • @mmstraker1
      @mmstraker1  2 місяці тому

      2004 is not PMDG, it was a freeware aircraft by Project Opensky.

  • @Kenedienz
    @Kenedienz 3 місяці тому +15

    FS2004 has more conventional camera like quality.

  • @ianclaudio777
    @ianclaudio777 2 місяці тому +3

    For me, 2004 is perfect
    And it's have 20 years!!!!

  • @user-rr3hk6lk3e
    @user-rr3hk6lk3e 3 місяці тому +7

    Based on that, the color correction and the overall saturation of the sim looks more accurate in fs 2004

    • @danielkenweisu4682
      @danielkenweisu4682 2 місяці тому +1

      The 2004 one is modded like crazy at high setting vs a default 2020 with regular or low settings.

    • @mmstraker1
      @mmstraker1  2 місяці тому +1

      FS2020 on low settings? Where? The 2020 is running on high preset, 2004 was running on a laptop with integrated graphics.

  • @bobbyrutz9402
    @bobbyrutz9402 Місяць тому

    Makes me appreciate both, to be honest.

  • @jarhead565
    @jarhead565 2 місяці тому +7

    I still use FS2004 to this day, you're always going to upgrade with more expensive programs, but this never failed on me. It's so well built, my computer dies before this game does.
    Shes old but she holds

    • @dannycnoble
      @dannycnoble 2 місяці тому

      Injust bought the virpil hotas and rudder pedals. If they work on fs9 inam staying with that. If not it looks like XP 11 or 12.

  • @Supreme_MJ
    @Supreme_MJ 2 місяці тому +2

    I may have to choose fs2004 because it’s a good flight sim since back then (along with fsx)

  • @darrenvox
    @darrenvox 6 місяців тому +5

    Awesome

  • @RF_NY1
    @RF_NY1 Місяць тому

    I always keep FS9 installed on my system. Anyone who hasn't tried out the flightzone sceneries for Portland or Rhode Island should. They are a must have and in my opinion, the most well done scenery for FS2004/9. Considering that just about anything hardware related can be made to work on FS2004 using FSUIPC and harder core stuff like project magenta work with it, FS2004 is a good choice for a no nonsense sim that works without crashes to desktop, etc.

  • @st3pn56
    @st3pn56 4 місяці тому +15

    fs2004 has better ground physics lmao

    • @0w3nn
      @0w3nn 2 місяці тому

      Absolutely

  • @christaylor5300
    @christaylor5300 2 місяці тому +4

    Still can’t beat Tower view and record your landings and take off to your hearts content!! Watching yourself crab in 50mph crosswinds and the FS2004 still did good wingflex…….I know im Xbox now but couldn’t justify £2k for a computer to play one game.

    • @Tpr_1808
      @Tpr_1808 Місяць тому

      Xbox version has close to no freeware aircraft and mods so I still mostly play p3d since it works on my laptop with many mods

  • @bobvester6448
    @bobvester6448 2 місяці тому

    Love 2020, but still miss the old 2004. All the aircraft you could download and paste into the game was pretty cool.

  • @cziffrathegreat666
    @cziffrathegreat666 Місяць тому +1

    Fs 2004 with a bit more resolution looks much more realistic

  • @user-ly4pk6ki7w
    @user-ly4pk6ki7w Місяць тому +1

    Idk man..fs2004 just feels like a proper sim.. the airliners feel heavy, the flight dynamics and all feel realistic and it's just more enjoyable idk... msfs2020 is a beautiful sim tho... hopefully they'll fix this in ms2024

  • @YuunaAndCuddles
    @YuunaAndCuddles Місяць тому

    Is that the B748 from SkySpirit? The textures looked familiar.

    • @mmstraker1
      @mmstraker1  Місяць тому

      Project Opensky, but very similar textures and model.

  • @g1m250
    @g1m250 Місяць тому

    I've been flying simulators for 23 years and I still use FS 9 for ifr's. It is the best and most stable simulator released, even with a million add-ons.
    Fs2020 is more like a computer game and I only use it for vfr's

  • @JoeCnNd
    @JoeCnNd 2 місяці тому +3

    Will 2024 have the realistic doors flying off?

    • @osasunaitor
      @osasunaitor 2 місяці тому

      Only if you buy the official MAX expansion

  • @Sydac_33
    @Sydac_33 Місяць тому

    yeah fs2004 looks very realistic but with like old camera graphics

  • @user7-FHW5-O
    @user7-FHW5-O 2 місяці тому

    unica coisa que muda é a aeronave a qualidade, o resto é so recriar a iluminação parecida

  • @roysole3294
    @roysole3294 Місяць тому

    yep fsx

  • @user7-FHW5-O
    @user7-FHW5-O 2 місяці тому

    tem que comparar com tudo igual ao fs2020.

  • @airplanedud
    @airplanedud 4 місяці тому +3

    I didnt know fs2004 could be modded?

    • @mmstraker1
      @mmstraker1  4 місяці тому +5

      Yes, there are tons of free and payware addons and tweaks to enhance it.

    • @gibememoni
      @gibememoni 3 місяці тому +3

      Mine was heavily modded, mostly free

  • @andreasfrank2978
    @andreasfrank2978 Місяць тому

    MSFS2020 vs FS2004 looks like the same as MSFS2020 vs XP12. 😂

  • @Zickcermacity
    @Zickcermacity 3 місяці тому +1

    So it's easier for folks to know which is which, you should put in the description which half of the screen is which year of Flight Sim.

    • @mmstraker1
      @mmstraker1  3 місяці тому +1

      Hi, thanks for the feedback. I didn't see that as necessary initially because of the contrast in visuals but I'll do that now to help ease any confusion some persons may have.

    • @Zickcermacity
      @Zickcermacity 3 місяці тому

      @@mmstraker1 Thanks. Just thought it was common sense to do so.

    • @JustAnOrdinarySimmer
      @JustAnOrdinarySimmer 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Zickcermacity And more common sense to know which one is FS2004 (Old) and which one is MSFS (New)... jesus christ what a world we live in when we have people like you.. unreal.

    • @Zickcermacity
      @Zickcermacity 3 місяці тому +1

      @@JustAnOrdinarySimmer Instead of coming off like some entitled Gen-Y or Z, you could be nice about it, and provide a straightforward response:
      FS2004 is on the left, MSFS is on the right - or vice versa - honestly they're both so refined I can't tell the difference.

    • @Zickcermacity
      @Zickcermacity 3 місяці тому

      @@mmstraker1 Thank you. And thanks for being cool about it, unlike someone else in this conversation.

  • @nos06
    @nos06 2 місяці тому +1

    Idk but fs2004 looked more realistic to me

  • @razsmithy
    @razsmithy 2 місяці тому

    Which one is which?

  • @Perich29
    @Perich29 4 місяці тому +4

    I have FSX now. I lost FS2004 after I got window10.

    • @mauricetan483
      @mauricetan483 3 місяці тому

      You need the no cd patch to run FS2004 on windows 10. Just do a google search and download the patch from a reputable site.

    • @eycm7626
      @eycm7626 2 місяці тому

      I still fs9 in win10, has been hard job bring to back life but i done. after years of MFS, last week finally i choose XP12.

  • @sepehrjaveri
    @sepehrjaveri Місяць тому

    FS2004 landing was more butter! 😂

    • @mmstraker1
      @mmstraker1  Місяць тому

      Lol that was the only part I didn't get right

  • @simnomad
    @simnomad 2 місяці тому +1

    Still better fs2004!!😅

  • @Greazer
    @Greazer Місяць тому

    2004 is better

  • @tjfSIM
    @tjfSIM 3 місяці тому +2

    Are you comparing a default aircraft in MSFS, with a PMDG addon in FS9? Not really a level playing field.

    • @mmstraker1
      @mmstraker1  3 місяці тому +8

      It was Project Opensky which is freeware so nowhere near PMDG level. Also, it's more of a comparison of graphics than the aircraft.

    • @joaopedrocarneiro4645
      @joaopedrocarneiro4645 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@mmstraker1posky used to have some of the best freeware planes back in the day ahhh the memories

  • @gabrielepierattelli3948
    @gabrielepierattelli3948 Місяць тому

    fs2004 was NOT so goodlooking... at least not far from airport

  • @googleisshittoss
    @googleisshittoss 3 місяці тому +7

    MSFS should be renamed as Microsoft Scenery Simulator......or failing that, Microsoft loading simulator

    • @oliverek7
      @oliverek7 3 місяці тому +1

      In what way? Plenty of extremely high fidelity aircraft coming to the sim, not to mention the couple that are already there like the fenix a320. What about it makes you say this

    • @googleisshittoss
      @googleisshittoss 3 місяці тому +1

      @@oliverek7 Not complaining about the scenery, though I am complaining about the aircraft. You mention the FenixA320...hmm...How many Airbus A320's are there?..Too Many!...Easy for the developers to just 'tweak' the cockpits from the default. Yes, there are some (hopefully) decent aircraft coming...but when you look down the list of aircraft in the Marketplace, it's full to overflowing with GE aircraft that are so rare, you'd never see one in the skies overhead..Or Jet fighters that are soooo bad, they're laughable.

    • @stijnservaes
      @stijnservaes 3 місяці тому +2

      @@googleisshittossthis just shows your ignorance about the topic. Fenix cockpit is made from the ground up, not reusing Default cockpit assets.
      Furthermore, when you compare MSFS to FS9, you have to realise that when it comes to flight sims, MSFS is still very new. It’s not honest to compare a sim on a new engine with 3 years of addons development to FS9/FSX/P3D engine which had like 16 years of development by the time MSFS came out.
      It took more than 4-5 years before good studysims got released for FS9 (Pmdg 737 for example). A more honest comparison would be to compare what addons were available for FS9 in 2006-7 to MSFS now. (Using this method for FSX does not work as well, since FSX and FS9 share the same engine so many planes and existing work could be ported)

    • @stijnservaes
      @stijnservaes 3 місяці тому

      @@googleisshittossmy comment is not saying that all addons of msfs are good or better. Like you said the MSFS marketplace is filled with shit addons, wish microsoft removed those scam aircraft. But looking back, there were as many shit aircraft back in the day for the older sims too. We just remember the Gems

    • @googleisshittoss
      @googleisshittoss 3 місяці тому

      @@stijnservaes It's a fair point you make, but to be honest, it's just a flightsim I suppose. There are more pressing things going on

  • @fgm1197
    @fgm1197 4 місяці тому +11

    Photorealistic graphics don't make a good simulator...

    • @Paradyski
      @Paradyski 3 місяці тому

      Filters available

  • @jonasplett172
    @jonasplett172 Місяць тому

    The old fs pilot was better lol

  • @Sello1_Official
    @Sello1_Official 3 місяці тому +4

    msfs wheels clipping through the ground convinced me not to buy the game

    • @eycm7626
      @eycm7626 2 місяці тому

      I spend two years comparing and testing betwen MSFS and XP11/12 at the end i choose XP12, but FS9 still life in my machine.

  • @totodu29treztre
    @totodu29treztre Місяць тому

    2024 with Boeing in the sky !? It's a joke ?