Snowmobile clutch removal, water method - very easy! PowerModz!
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- THIS WILL ONLY WORK ON THE ROTAX WITH THE SKIDOO CLUTCH _ DO NOT USE ON POLARIS OR YAMAHA OR ARCTIC CAT. Don't have a puller? No problem - just use some water and you can get that clutch right off your sled in a few seconds - here's how you do it.
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I saw this video about a year ago. Today I was in the garage and found myself without a puller. I used this trick and it worked flawlessly. I used gear oil instead of water for a thicker viscosity. you can hear it creak once and you know its working, let it sit for a couple seconds and POP. it came right off. Thanks for the Video.
Thank you sir! I couldn't get mine off this season with water, don't know if my tape job just wasn't good enough or what. But some cold gear oil popped it right off, good idea.
I have a older polaris Sportsman 400 2 stroke. I have spent the last two days fighting to to remove the drive clutch and it has kicked my ass consistently at every turn. I bought a 3/4-16 grade 8 bolt to use as a puller and made a push rod out of of a carriage bolt. As it turns out, the push rod should also be grade 8 but my puny carriage bold is maybe grade 3....I managed to twist the push rod it into a pretzel and it was hopelessly stuck inside the clutch....shit....
Then I found this video.
I turned the quad on its side, poured the hole full of water and rattled the 3/4 puller bolt in (with lots of teflon tape) and the clutch popped off on my first try.
You are my fucking hero. If my kids were not grown adults I would name them all after you. The water method will my first line of attack the next time I pull this clutch.
pure genius....
Great idea! Water doesn’t compress! I’ve used the heat expanding grease method which requires a torch and can be really messy. This would be much quicker and no heating up your clutch shaft!
This is the best! I fought with my vintage 1996 ZRT 600 for hours. Tried Kroil, nothing... Clutch popped off with little effort in under 3 minutes with this method. Hardest part was propping the sled up on one side.
The bolt that came out of the clutch is not the thread you want to use. You DON'T want to be threading anything into the crank, it's another set of threads with a larger diameter, that are there SPECIFICALLY for removing the clutch. This is normally where the puller threads into. These threads are on the clutch itself, and are more towards the face of the clutch....
Bobby Hawkins on a ski doo clutch the clutch itself is threaded all you are doing is compressing the water between the clutch and the crankshaft snout there is no contact of the bolt onto the crankshaft.
The video doesn't make mention of this, guy says use your clutch bolt. Which is TOTALLY FALSE INFO 🤔
Just bought an old XLT this summer and of course the rollers are shot so I'm in for a rebuild. The sled only cost me a grand cdn but now I'm gonna be in for another 300ish for the clutch after already replacing a chain all wheel bearings, a hand warmers, temperature gauge and I still have to recover the seat. Any trick that saves me $75 for a puller that I literally need only once in a blue moon is great in my books!
Unfortunately I can report that this trick doesn't work for older Polaris clutches. The bolt is thin with a large bushing, gap is way too big to get a proper seal or too many gaps if trying to keep the bushing inside also. Best to just go with the puller in this case.
Used this method on a 1996 Formula SLS, after fighting with the puller. Worked first try, had the clutch off in 5 minutes after struggling for hours with the puller.
Louie, you need to post a side note that this method will not work on polaris sleds with factory clutch bolt. I have read at least 50 posts with people who do not understand this method breaking the factory bolt off in the crank shafts.
good idea
Thanks for the great tip! Had my clutch off in no time with a less than 2 dollar roll or tape vs an 80 dollar clutch puller
yup!
depends on which one, if the removal tool threads in the clutch sheave then probably yes, if it is a screw on clutch then no of course.
Your the man Louis, thanks for the tip...i tried grease, but it doesnt come out of the hole after...water seems better. Thanks a million man
this guy's channel is golden
You said take your bolt, well the bolt most sleds have thread into crank not the clutch.. Hence, it holds the clutch to crank.
You need a bolt that threads in the id of clutch. Out of all sleds made, only one has a bolt with same threads.
Has a relief cut in it so bolt will hold clutch on, after it threads thru clutch shaft id.
This method only works with a bolt that treads into the fixed half of the drive clutch, like the clutch puller does. The clutch retaining bolt threads directly into the crankshaft to hold the clutch in place so it does not come off!
I know. What are we seeing happen here because the clutch bolt with water between the threaded crank post hole and the factory bolt makes zero sense
Dave here from dead and buried powersports Sudbury awesome video great idea I have used grease but never water. Keep up the good work boys. See you guys at the sled show again this fall
another way. same as this but instead of the impact wrench, move the sled outside and leave it on its side over night, the water will freeze and the clutch will pop off on its own sometime during the night from the expanding ice.
Neat trick. Going to give that a shot on a 89 Ovation I just picked up.
I just had a 89 ovation given to me last year that partially kept up with an 850 skidoo.. until I lost a cylinder 😂
Part of it is in my rev build
I used this method on 2 REVs because I had to swap the clutch with a ring gear over to the other sled. (swapping electric start between the two) Worked first try, on both sleds. You don't really need that much tape, if you use too much it bunches up and doesn't work. Just use "enough" to create a good seal, don't get carried away. Also don't use a rattle gun, you have no idea how much force you are using and may very well break the bolt. I just remove a plug, shove a bunch of thin paracord down the plug hole and rotate the clutch to the left until it stops. The paracord prevents the piston from going all the way to tdc so the crank cant rotate any further. Use a 21mm socket on a big 1/2 drive breaker bar and within 10 turns the clutch should pop off with a bang.
+Bradley Vaillancourt That's why you should use a grade 8 bolt 3/4-16 = $8
Thanks for the tip! Just removed the clutch from my 92 Polaris Indy.
Ronco160 hey im doing this on a 1997 polaris indy xc600 do i use the original bolt or use a 3/4 16 inch thread bolt?
Michael Fortney I bought as long as bolt as I could find from my local stores that fit and used hand tools.
Awsome cost me $60 to buy puller....but 78cent tape....made the mistake of not tilting machine enough to poor water in but used a straw to squirt it in.....bam 3 seconds clutch was off thanks
I said crank but meant clutch. Clean clutch after . Only human. Great trick.
Works great! first try.less than 10 sec by hand. 2004 MXZ 500.
Braaaap!
Thanks ill try this out tomorrow
I might be - just working on the details.
try a hardened bolt with the same threads.
Wouldant hydraulic fluid be better since that's what your doing?? Plus this is a good idea. Never thought of doing that. I am a tool and die maker and have used similar methods to get bolts out of holes.
You could theoretically use Mt. Dew or tears from your Ex girlfriend, liquid doesn’t compress. Hydraulic fluid resist heat, lubricates and doesn’t corrode otherwise water works fine for these applications.
work first time for me on my 1996 GrandTouring 670 rave tank you !!!
Thanks for the tip, only took one try. Keep up all the good tips.
spray bomb camo, very easy! and looks better once it gets scratched up.
Thank you so much for help me here in Brasil 🇧🇷
I am hoping this will work 'cause I used the WRONG polaris clutch puller on mine and stripped out the puller threads. It's all I've got left as a method. Aside from pulling the motor off the mounts and using a pulley puller.
very good idea!
Too cool great vid! Neat trick but how does ski doo think this should “really” be done? Shop manual for the older sleds says use “clutch puller” P/N XYZ. No more info. I had one so stuck on that the water trick simply would not do it so I wacked it from behind for like 10 minutes with a 6 lb. sledge till it popped off. Damaged it but that was O.K. as I was installing a new one anyway. On my old Formula III, there is no way to get the clutch out without removing the inner sheave with the outer assembly. Not enough room unless you loosen the bolts on the engine and do some finagling’ then you can get the outer stuff off and leave the inner sheave on. Bad design if you want to service your clutch easily. For obvious reasons, manual says no anti-seize or any goop of any kind on the inner sheave where it goes onto crank shaft! Makes sense but how the heck do they expect you to get it off there? I had an idea that might be as slick as yours: buy a long ass bolt with the correct thread then install a big heavy metal sleeve on it. AKA a homemade slide hammer. Another idea: weld a super heavy chain to a bolt then thread it in. Pull frantically on the chain to introduce some sudden forces to the shaft. FYI this is an old trick to pull stuck axles from vehicles. Or: Put a rubber stopper on the end of a rod. Drop a lit fire-cracker down the hole the push the rubber stopper down the hole as tight as you can. Boom! Sheave comes off. That one’s a joke but honestly it might work!
What did you do as far as paint/panels on that rev in the background?? Not the do freeride. That thing looks awesome!!
You may use also grease gun to pressure the pulley,
If you use grease make sure you don't get any air pockets !! Liquid is incompressible but air is.
It didn't pull the clutch off but it did an excellent job stripping the bolt.
Seen it with grease before but the water was cool too.
use flax fiber, allways works on the first try 👍
Not sure about using an impact on a two piece crank shaft? Looks like potential serious problems later? Polaris manual says "never use an impact for anything to do with the crank shaft" something like that.
Looks like it worked great for removing the clutch though.
I was just about to post this. When you use an impact on a standard clutch puller, even with a bunch of moly lube, it definitely shocks your bearings.
This must be nice on the bearings
Never had an issue
I'll be damn. I just tried this and it worked perfectly!!!
Looks like I learned something new today.
Thanks for the awesome tip!!!
Anthony Jakuszeski
What if you need to rethread the clutch because you didn't know it was changed and it messed up your brand new removal tool? I'm trying to rethread the clutch but it seems like the clutch is made of harder steel than the tap.?
Wow learned something new today thanks
Arctic Cat Pantera 500 f/a Suzuki. Arctic Cat Hex clutch.
How has it held up? Did you sand and prep everything or just spray and go?
Louis...I am rebuilding top end on a 2005 rev 600 renegade and the Y pipe was leaking a lot of carbon down the front of the motor, I am thinking of dropping the whole crankcase in the parts washer, I will remove all hoses and wires prior to soaking will this be okay??
How do you put on a clutch like this? Does it just seat with pressure from me pushing it on?
Sweet maybe I'll see you around there!
I normally Squirt the grease gun down there and thighten the bolt in by hand, If its real tight i let the bolt sit for a minute and it will pop of its self, This way causes less stress to the crank ;)
got it first try, thanks dood
Glad I could help
what does it mean?
This will not work on every clutch. Polaris clutch bolts thread directly into the crank, and not the clutch bore first,many arctic cat and yamaha's are the same, so you will accomplish nothing. Pullers are about $30, if you need to remove a clutch i recommend just getting the right puller, if you break a bolt off in your crank your in for some fun.
how easy does the tape come off the bolt? is there any tape left in the crank tapping? havent tryed this method yet.
Would it be better to use oil?
no cause then you have oil all over the threads that your never gonna be able to get out
@@dirtrider88 carb cleaner
That is a wicked good idea!!
Just do that and put it outside if its cold enough and it will come off by its self.
use this method every time!
Will grease do the same thing?
Grest video! Thanks
очень познавательно! я действительно не могу снять вариатор ! попробую ваш метод!
Y did take that hole cluth apart for better camera view ?
Hey Louis, are you going to be at the Ski-Doo Grand Prix in Valcourt?
will this work on a secondary?
Prank vs. Prank (aka pvp) is a channel where a guy and his girlfriend constantly prank each other, and on their vloq channel, BFvsGF they say SAAAN all the time (another word for son I guess haha) so put it all together and it is PVP SAAAN lol
Great tip
thanks!
This is awesome
whats the song there at the beginning or is that the power of editing too? :P
oh and don't use any tape for the freeze method. don't need it.
Do not use the factory bolt that holds the clutch to the crank! This method will never work and you will damage the bolt or crank or both!
Justin Wood false. Just did it on mine and it's perfectly fine
Thinking about getting an 04 polaris pro x 800......are these a decent sled for reliability?
how do you get the other part of the clutch of? going to change spring and dont want to take the whole clutch of...
Was going to say use grease but someone beat me lol
I thought it was bad to use an impacy gun on them.
Someone please answer this when they see it. Dealing with this issue right now on my RZR. Is the bolt that you threaded in to your polar the OEM clutch bolt that holds the clutch on or is that a puller bolt?? Not sure how the OEM clutch bolt would help removing the clutch as the bolt is what holds it on to the crank??
Youll need the proper puller
хорошо придумал! принцип гидроудара!
So we tried this and we broke the bolt so we just cut the cluch off
I have had to do that before, it is not fun .
I didn't have much success with my polaris.. I ended up stripping 3 threads of my clutch bolt.. I bought a puller and will only use a puller from now on.. good lesson learned tho
does that trick work for aftermarket clutches like comet??
Back when skebo did how toos and not website and product advertisements..
yes awesome!!!
holy crap! that was awesome! do u have an email address for direct Q&As?
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Can I do this on a old John Deere snowmobile
Sir the bolt u tight up was for just the clutch not crank?
ski doo clutch, this vintage anyway is same thread in crank and clutch. When securing the clutch, bolt threads through the clutch before going further in and into the crank.
Can you remove both the primary and secondary like this?
Htown113 secondary doesn't need a puller. Just take it off by hand.
tthanks
I got 99 500 deluxe will that clutch fit on a 95 583
Does the face with governer bolts come off without pulling the entire clutch?
If I understand your question right yes it does
@@PowerModzOfficial the outer face of the primary clutch. Where the clutch bolts is seated . If so how .. I believe someone tried to adjust those governer bolts and pulled them out which the manual says not to do because theres a washer inside . I didn't remove bolts but I dont see any washer and they have been moved from the stock position.
So the part of the primary that's off already in the beginning of your video lol?
wounder if you just heat after you seal then steam push it off??
To many bearings and seals that could get wrecked that way.. the heat you would have to use wouldn't be kind to the other parts
Hi ! Can you use oil(brake oil) instead water for more hydrolic power ? And did you ever tried oil ?
I think fluid is fluid - and water evaporates.
Take an impact after a junk to begin with skidoo crank........
You should never use an impact wrench. It's hammering your crank and could also damage the flywheel magnets. Use the correct puller or don't do it!
Hey if you ever see this comment what is the song form your intros
Nero zero
well hells fire.
BULL SHIT!!!! I just tried this exact thing using gear oil. Snapped the bolt by hand and ratchet with a 16" snipe pipe. 😏🤔
What sled
Clutch bolt?
does any one know if outer primary sheave has to be aligned with the inner sheave somehow when you put the two back together??
Nate Lisowski no it doesn't.
I tried this on my polaris atv, i stripped the bolt ^_^
You need a bolt that threads into clutch and not into crank like the bolt that holds clutch on.
Tried this on a 97 Indy and stripped the piss out of the clutch bolt...
Ended up with an 03 pro x 800....can anyone tell me what the compression should be? Im getting 120 to 125 on both cylinders. ..
+moto9ll Genius idea! I've heard of using a punch, hammer and oil for removing something years ago but I forgot about it.
+Scott st.vincent
pilot bearings..
looks to me like you stripped that bolt or end of crank and edited out. Known to happen says Murpheys Law!
Grease and hand rachet works better than water and make sure you have enough threads in crank.
Nope, no clever editing! the bolt I remove the clutch with threads into the clutch not the crank, so impossible to strip the crank threads. Oh, and I didnt strip the clutch threads either:) I just dont like to get grease in there, just a personal thing.