@Chris723 Yeah, UA-camrs generally make videos to make money, super hot take you had there. But to say he's not into repairing PCs is clearly false. He shows the broken PC and then he makes it work, without charging the viewer. It's kind of a win win situation.
@Chris723 I mean it's not perfect, but people do get free repairs/parts, he makes money, and it does help some people at home try to fix their own stuff. I'd say the general viewers think they're good enough.
for the chips that do boot in to bios you could try turning cores off, first try to see if it works ok with only 2 cores then enable 4 and so on to find out maybe a 6 core can work fine with 4 cores
@@groenevinger3893 sometimes he is too scared to put his working CPUs into motherboards that he suspects might fry them, so I think these partially working CPUs could make for perfect test subjects, as he won't lose anything if they get fried anyway.
The 3900x was a hot chip, and if not properly cooled I could see the IHS becoming partially unsoldered from one or both of the CCX's. This would make it pretty much impossible to thermally manage from then on.
@@dremy746 Different solders melt at different temperatures. The solder used in CPU's is not the same as the lead-tin solder used in making electrical connections. The solder used in CPU's is indium solder, which melts at 157 degrees C, and can soften at lower temps.
@@testickles8834 if you're addressing me, at 58 I suppose I am old enough. I remember water-cooling first-generation athlon's which was quite a trick since you couldn't buy any water cooling Hardware at the time and had to make your own by hand.
So the first 2 that get stuck on Dram light, I think you are correct mostly...I've seen this a bunch of times...It usually happens when the SOC voltage gets set too high and damages the memory controller...It really doesn't like getting overvolted too much unless you have extreme cooling...
For the ones with dram led... Tech Yes Bryan found he could revive a "dead" 3600 by undervolting in the bios with a good cpu, and then switch to the dead one. It would be interesting if you could make any of yours work by undrvolting or reducing the clocks. [edit] lol, just got to the last one where you did just that. Worth re-checking some of the others similarly.
I had the exact same issue as the last CPU that you tested here. Tried underclocking as suggested and everything seems to be working now! Thought I had tried everything... Thanks!
Hey Greg, thanks to you & your fix or flop series i was able to fix my 10 year old desktop, so let me share what happened the. Out of the blue the system started Blue screen of deaths different error everytime so i thought maybe the windows was corrupt and tried to fresh install the windows but it wouldn't let me boot via the Pendrive, so i thought maybe the HDD had given up the ghost. Had a spare HDD lying so decided to swap it and sometimes it would just bootloop and sometimes it would just give no output to display so started by disconnecting RAM's to narrow down the problem so guess what 1 of the RAM sticks had gone faulty so tried putting it in the other slot to rule out defective slot but the RAM was at fault so finally the system started with the other 4 gig stick. I didn't go to any repair shop as most of them just try to rip off, so thanks to you my potato pc started again.
I love how you take everything as a learning experience, to many people want to just be right all the time instead of realizing that there is always something to learn. Keep up the good work greag! awesome video!
I would love to try to delid that 5900x and see if it's a contact issue. Maybe there's an internal issue where the chip is barely touching lid. Or maybe try turning one of the CCDs off amd try running at stock settings.
The 5900x seems similar to a few cases of degraded silicon I've seen. With some time you could probably dial in the voltage/clocks to get it running pretty close to stock. Not perfect but would still work well as a homelab CPU or something.
I have an old fx-8370 chip (use it as a test bench and backup media system now). Used to oc to 5.0GHz, but slowly became unstable over the years. Now it'll run fine forever at 4775MHz but not at 4800 or more.
As others said, the 5900X is "fixable" by disabling Global C-States control in BIOS, which disables core parking feature. My 5950x just did this last week, while it can be fixed by disabling this option, personally i decided to RMA it instead.
With the overheating CPUs, try delid and liquid metalling the CPU and putting the IHS back. The thermal glue inside might've dried out or not making contact with the IHS anymore
@@notrixamoris3318 There's no problem with the cpu. The real problem here is the motherboard and psu. I have 12 Ryzen cpu and i dont have any problem at all. But the on my MSI motherboard thats my problem it kill 1 of my CPU. Asus and gigabyte are good for my experience.
I have a Ryzen 72700X. Where one memory channel crapped out. What happened was I changed my cooler for one of those tower coolers and the weight on the tower cooler ripped the Ryzen out of its socket, and I am guessing that that caused some sort of electrical faultin the CPU, as it doesn't like being pulled out of its socket when the power is on. But that's what happened. The main fault lies with the top-heavy weight of the tower cooler and the CPU retention arm. The weight of the cooler pulled the arm out of its socket. There was an easy fix for this and that was to bend the arm towards the socket again, making a better contact with the catch. But by then it was too late. My verdict is --- Tower coolers are too top-heavy and the CPU retention arms are too weak and don't latch hard enough.
I just want to say thank you for the fix or flop content! Thanks to your methodology I was able to fix a friend's "dead" PC in less than 15 minutes. He thought the mobo was dead and asked me if I could look at it knowing that I have experience building PCs, and I was quickly able to narrow it down to just 1 dead RAM stick. I cleared the CMOS, swapped in a known working GPU, and then tested RAM one stick and one slot at a time. It was so satisfying being able to save that PC as it is still a relatively powerful system.. i7 9700k on a gigabyte z370 motherboard with an RX 6700xt.
I agree....cooling IS an issue with the R5-3600 if you use the pitiful cooler supplied with the CPU. With a good cooler that keeps it below 65C no matter what...mine has been absolutely reliable...so far.(knocks on wood)
If you install poorly it is generally VERY easy to tell why it is broken. Bent pins or massive damage to the socket itself or conductive thermal paste in the socket for example. Thermal loads could cook a chip in theory but in general its not something that will generally cause a chip to fry since people will normally notice something is wrong even if they arent tech literate. In reality though the truth is that no QC is perfect and every company makes lemons or has broken parts slip through the cracks. Or even parts that pass QC if only barely so they fail quickly. Thats one of the reasons you generally want to stress test a new system for a bit after you build it. If something passed the basic QC at the factory but has an issue when its ran hard for a long period its best for it to burn itself out early.
@@abdullahdanze2061 Not much point overclocking a ryzen. I suspect some mobo vendors may be too aggressive with auto voltage settings, causing weaker chips to fail. I've been having erratic issues with my chips.
Recently I had a family member complain that shortly after plugging in his new WD 2TB Elements portable USB 3.0 (the next day actually) his monitor, keyboard, and mouse quit working. I saw that his MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max AM4 MB had every USB port filled with various crap...looked like a porcupine. His poor Corsair VS 450 PSU had to handle a Kingston 120GB SSD (OS boot drive), a WD 250GB HDD, a Seagate Barracuda 500GB HDD, the Ryzen 5 3600 w/stock cooler, 16GB G. Skill Trident Z Neo 3600, 5 UpHere RGB case fans, MSI GTX 1650 Super GPU with 2 monitors plugged in, and some gadget that appeared to have a few mini monitor screens. All the fans and lights were working, as well as the GPU fans. I noted the PSU didn’t have a connector for the 4-pin CPU PWR2 on the board, which I’ve read the MB only really needs the 8-pin CPU PWR1 but I can’t help but wonder so I suggested he buy a more powerful PSU to handle all the stuff he had plugged in and to make sure it had the connector to fill that void. Well a new Tier A Corsair RM1000e PSU didn’t help so I tried a known working GPU but that didn’t help either. I should note that no settings were ever tinkered with. Everything was totally factory and his Metallic Gear Neo case w/2 Skiron RGB fans, plus the 5-pack of UpHere RGB fans offered plenty of ventilation. I thought for sure the motherboard had an issue. The next stop was Micro Center for component isolation, which took 3 weeks and they said the problem was the Ryzen 5 3600 failed and it would be $180 to fix. He added that although he just bought everything last summer, (from MC) he didn’t buy the warranty so that’s something he’d have to handle himself through AMD. Noting how many of those chips have been diagnosed as “bad” plus the one I mentioned, I’m beginning to think AMD may have a dependability issue starting to emerge. EDIT: MC scared the kid by saying the new CPU would require a new OS and it would wipe everything on the drive. When the kid asked about saving his games and the cost of the next CPU upgrade. The tech said the ($129.99) Ryzen 5 5600 was actually just $20.01 more than the ($109.98) Ryzen 5 3600 and mentioned flashing the MB. So with another $150 to save his data, the price approached $500. I suggested that since his OS was on a cheap $20 120GB SSD that he should just put in a higher capacity & faster NVMe for the OS and the old SSD wouldn't have to be touched. Plus he already had the activation key from the previous OS installation. Next thing I know, the tech installed the ($49.99) Inland QN322 1TB NVMe and ended up costing “$200 something.” (his words)
I’m able to boot in b1 & b2 but anytime I try to use a1 or a2 I get error code 55 yellow light on ram everything lights on pc but no display on keyboard and mouse. Do you think this is a problem with the cpu or motherboard slits please let me know anything is helpful.
This should become a super sub series where every 45 videos or 5 bad cpus or any part really of Fix/Flop you should go back and see if you cant fixate or if they are truly broken
A motherboard with debug codes instead of just LEDs (and a power button) would've probably been beneficial for these tests. Or regarding the power button, you could just use one from an unused case to connect it to the pins instead of having to short the jumpers all the time.
@@daveward4358 Greg did say he was trying to contact AMD about that but he just hasn't heard back from them yet. He did also say that he will update us once they do contact him back about it.
@@daveward4358 Not necessarily, only because we can neither confirm or deny if that's true without proof or evidence. What I can say for sure is that, there were a lot of people who bought these CPU's, so it's possible that failure rates can seem to be higher than what it truly is overall.
Great vid and quite helpful- I build a lot of Ryzen based computer systems and this helps with a "heads up" of possible outcomes. I have not yet witnessed these symptoms, but good to have this knowledge.
I am wondering if the silicon shortage over the last two years has contributed to this issue, are manufacturers reducing the failure threshold/overhead to pump out their products? I am in the process of building my new 13th gen system and it is a major concern that component quality might be compromised by the current lack of raw materials globally.
@12:35 hahah this happened to my first Ryzen 9 5950x after trying out the dynamic oc feature on the Asus Dark Hero x570 it kept cycling between this and corrupted boot device.
Greg, I envy your access to hardware, but I don't envy how much thermal paste you must go through in a week. I'd love to know what brand you use though.
for giggles I tried a older weed pen that stopped working (as they all do when the battery dies)....but today, I got two hits (with lights) and it still seems like it can give me more. I know it's not the same but I'm pretty stoked, literally :) Good vid Greg -- you're a genuine dude.
Hey Greg, found a intresting thing!! 16:30 / 16:37 time in the video when u press on the ram with your finger (Dram) light Changes to CPu , i dont know im the only one noticing it.. Love ur Content!!
When doing these sort of diagnostics, CPUs have a system called by various names "CPU Internal Error" "CPU IErr," or "CPU Machine Check". This system is basically in charge of double checking results, e.g. that the CPU didn't do 1 + 1 = 3. When such error is detected, the CPU will (try to) tell the OS and the OS will log the error and reboot itself (sounds familiar?). This may require a few tries because sometimes the error is so bad the OS doesn't get the chance to do any of this and the system just hangs or reboots. In the case of Windows, you'll find this in the Windows Registry Log (kinda hard to reach when you can't boot). In Linux, you should see it right on the boot terminal on screen right before reboot. This is very useful because it may indicate further info as to what is failing; and you may find workarounds online if others are having the same issue. I suspect the 5900X was having Machine Checks, and the 3900 from 9:55 may possibly too. Trying to boot into Linux may also yield more info (particularly if it gets stuck in a specific place)
its funny how i got this video in my recommendation. just build a brand new PC using an AMD Ryzen 9 7900x, and the cpu was a dud, returned it to microcenter for a another one and everything is all good. just suck that i had to drive 2 hours away again to return the CPU,
I've been in IT for over 30 years and I've personally only seen 1 failed processor. Two users with failed processors would have been crazy to me, but 5!? Intel isn't the best but this is shenanigans.
I find it interesting the number of memory issues. Just replaced my 2700 X as the memory controller is depredating. It stopped being able to run the memory on XMP, so I had to drop the voltages and speeds down a few months ago(6) and it was stable until yesterday when the problem made a return. However, I believe a bad bios was to blame in my case as I found that the XMP had gone 1.45 V on Auto which was fixed with a bios update.
some AMD chips that have dual CCD(x900, x950, or some x600 series) may experience some impedance between CCDs especially when theres a degradation problem related to the silicon, their voltage needs heavy adjustment to work normally. TechYESCity demonstrated that by disabling cores/limiting boost frequencies some of these chips could be salvaged.
I have a ryzen cpu that would power on for about 10 seconds and then power off again then after about 3 seconds it powers on and just stay on without display/post/boot. My keyboard light and mouse doesn't appear.Also, my keyboard's Scroll Lock and Caps Lock are on and the keyboard won't respond with me clicking anything. What could possible cause this?
i changes some settings in bios i think cpu volatage ... then pc turn off himsef and wont boot again i try everything cmos reset ...what should i do its my new config 😔😔
I was looking forward to this, since you had quite a collection of dead 3000s. To be honest I recently built two absolute equal 7600x systems, did the same settings on boths, same gpu, same EVERYTHING aside hard drives. One was running at 1.4v, the other at 1.29. The former was almost hitting 95°C (on a Dark Rock pro 4!!) the other was running relatively cool in the 80ish pumping better scores all over the place. I've ended up forcing a Curve optimizer on the 1.4v basically that reduced it to the voltages of the other (even less at -30) and the thing began running cooler than the other and posting roughly the same results if not a tad better. For safety I set the owner to -20, then instructed him how to lower it by time as soon as he checked that he was stable in his editing/gaming/daily routine. He now runs it at -30 and at least in Cpu-z/R23 he gets results slightly better than the other that I've left at stock all while running about 5°C cooler overall. The above was kinda strange tbh.. same b650M-A pro from MSI, same coolers, same Asus Tuf 6800Xt, same evga supernova G6 850, same g.skill 6000 c36 kit 2x16, same crucial P5 plus, same bios version, same bios settings (at default + just enabled XMP and fan profiles), same Phanteks p500 the only difference was one rig has a 2Tb HDD + 256 sata SSD, the other one just a 3Tb HDD carried over from their previous builds. But that can't be the humongous vcore difference. The only test I didn't do is to swap CPUs between the motherboards, but looking at how the CO cure turned out, I thought I didn't wanted to dismount and remount two Dark Rock Pro 4s 4 times in a day..
I had the same issue with a ryzen where it would post to bios and after resetting to default it wouldn't post. It ended up being a TPM setting. I used another CPU, installed Windows with the tpm bypass mod and it worked fine after
im from malaysia, i had a problem with my pc, i bought everything new except gpu, i had a problem with my pc, sometime it wont boot the display like 75 percent wont 25 percent it boot fine(could be die in the middle on, giving 5 beepiing when trying to boot up, i tried change everything, put one by one on healthy pc, still not finding any, this is some kind of mysterious sick, help
I got a problem similar to this, I got a MSI B 550 A Pro motherboard with a Ryzen 5 5600. Worked great for a month, no heating issues. One day I go to power on the PC and it does nothing. Changed out the PSU and ram, gpu. still the same. Then I took out the CPU and it fired right up, but the motherboard will no longer let me bios flash. Keep in mind you do not need ram or cpu in most msi boards with bios button.
I got a little problem. If i use the recommended DRAM slots and use XMP the pc won’t boot. But if I turn off xmp it will boot. If I use another set of DRAM in the same slots and with xmp the computer boots… But if I use another slots and use xmp, the computer boots… with the difference DRAMS.
i have a GIGABYTE B550 AORUS Master, getting the cpu red light, the memory lights turns on, the cpu fan doesn't, no beeps, i ordered a new mother board, i have a ryzen 7 never came across a bad cpu so thought it was the MB, I am pissed that it could be the cpu
maybe its incompatible memory with the cpu. being as the led for cpu goes off and goes to dram. m sure if it was a cpu problem the led would stay on cpu. so the cpu might be fine as its passing on diagnostic leds
Where did you get that motherboard speaker from? I’ve tried those super tiny ones in the past, but they exude the shrillest, most unpleasant beep. This one was much better!
1st chip, had the identical issue with the exact same board with a 5600 the day after I assembled, i left it plugged out without the bios batterry and issue gone
Preface: I may have a Ryzen 5 5600X with a failing memory controller. Throughout the past few weeks, I've been troubleshooting one of my PC builds. Around the same time as swapping graphics cards, my SFF rig became quite unstable, lots of random restarts. It freezes or reboots anywhere from immediately after POST to maybe 30 min in. The instability can be at idle, launching an app, activating the Start menu, closing an app, during a benchmark, etc. I've (re)verified the GPU, an RTX 4070 Ti, stability in another system. The previous card, an RX 6900 XT, is just as or more power hungry, therefore, I doubt(ed) a PSU problem. Many "clean" Windows 10 and 11 installs with various attempts at driver versions and driver install order made no improvement. When they would/could complete, benchmarks were fairly on par. I also changed the memory setting to Auto (i.e., base 2133 MT/s) and disabled onboard components (e.g., audio, Wi-Fi, BT) one-by-one via BIOS. Believing I've narrowed the culprit to RAM, CPU, or motherboard, I decided to do another DIMM reseating, though I swapped slots this time. Welp... This resulted in the board not making it through POST, lighting the DRAM Q-LED. No matter what, I couldn't get it passed the DRAM stage, that is, until I ran the system with only one DIMM. We're back to booting but still very unstable. I felt it improbable both DIMMs had failed. So, I swapped in a single stick of Kingston Fury (also DDR4-3200). System again boots, although, no improvement of stability. So, the problem appears to be down to the motherboard or CPU. And after recalling the failures you showcase in this video, I'm leaning CPU. UPDATE: I purchased a 5700X3D... Same problems. So, turns out, it was the motherboard... Somehow... Ultimately, I decided this was time for a platform upgrade. I returned the 5700X3D and sold the 5600X and DRAM to SellGPU, which claimed the components passed their tests. So far, the system is going strong on an Ryzen 7700X, ASRock B650E PG-ITX, and Flare X5 DDR5-6000. Same GPU, PSU, and SSD as before the platform replacement.
I also have a pc here that has AMD A10 apu in it. Everything was fine and stable in the bios(updated and set to defaults) but everytime i install an os, it keeps crashing and giving me bsod. I already tried changing the ssd, sata cable, and sata port but still same issues. When i install an os from a different pc(intel) then put back together to this pc it will boot up but after a few minutes it will crash and show bsod again.
It makes sense that the IMC in AMD chips fail more than non K intel chips. The more freedom you give users the more variety you need to support ram wise. Running outside of its preferred settings with higher clocks and tighter timings is higher risk. Similar to turning up the boost on turbo cars. It puts pressure on other parts: clutch, fuel system etc.
I swapped my radiatior fans from intake to exhaust and got BSOD's. Reset Bios and it boots but if I overclock the RAM a little it BSOD's so I swapped the slots and it works fine now in A and C. Really confusing stuff.
The labeling of the cpu as "bad" reminded me of a system one of my clients asked me to diagnose and the only information I had to go on was the label which read "doesn't".
Maybe contact Steve from gamer nexus. This sort of situation might be down his alley. Especially if it shows to be a batch wide situation There could be hundreds of Ryzen 3000 chips on the verge of going bad and could open exactly why they could be turning. Might turn into an interesting collab.
@GregSalazar for the 5900X try to Enable PBO instead of Deactivating it. And try out to activate the Eco Mode (75W/90W) inside of PBO. I had the exact same Issue, with an 5800X. At Stock Settings it was Boot Looping all the Time until i used the PBO Eco Mode and it wasnt even much slower. Like around 5-10%.
I know this video is kinda old, but i just got a Ryzen 9 5950x and my mobo gets stuck with a cpu light on; I've tested with just the mobo cpu and one Ram and it still just has cpu light on, any advice?
@GregSalazar I have a weird issue with a 5950X, where it boots into windows just fine, but when ever I try and install windows on a fresh drive, it locks up. Does it in Recovery, does it with USB media, does it with installing from the OS itself doing a system reset. Had 4 sticks of RAM, went down to 1 stick, and rotated between the 4 sticks individually in different slots, same issue. Memtest86 runs indefinitely without an issue though. I can even run a game and it wont crash, but I cannot reinstall windows! I am hoping its a motherboard issue of some kind, and have a new MB on the way to test it out, but I have never come across anything quite as bizzare. Changed PSU, and GPU too, no change to the behavour. Fresh HDD, cant even install off USB media as it locks up part way through selecting the options for the install. I had this in my main system, which was water cooled with a custom loop, and it ran for almost 2 years. No overclock, and the loop stayed really cool with a RTX3080 in the same loop. Dual radiators etc. Changed to an AM5 system now, but really want to get to the bottom of this, as it would be a good 2nd system or NAS kind of thing. Ever seen anything like this?
I just bought a brand new Ryzen 7 7800x3d and motherboard and ram to go with it but I can’t get it to post I’ve reseated the cpu and the ram but still nothing my motherboard has debug leds and the cpu one is red and the dram one is yellow but idk what that means any tips?
i work in a computer shop and have seen 2x r9 5900 , 1x r9 5950 and a threadripper 3960x all worked for about 6 to 9 months and just die and dealing with amd warranty is super bad . i am in australia
Hi Greg, I have a ryzen 5 3600 with aorus b450 elite. My pc wont start, and no light debug show in motherboard. Is the motherboard dead or my processor was dead? Help me, thank U
Is that a Blue-Eyes Toon Dragon in the background? 😍 I think I also see The Winged Dragon of Ra and Relinquished, I could be wrong. I can’t tell what the other two are.
About dram issue, try pressing cpu a bit harder to the mount. I saw ONE cpu where mount pressure needed to work consistently was a bit unreasonable. Maybe that was not one time wired chip. Just FYI try different slots for gpu and drive, sometimes you have just tiny part of the cpu shorted, and for example m.2 slots are unusable, but otherwise cpu works. Disable that part in bios, and you have yourself working, although crippled a bit cpu. It's not wired that same skews have same issues, it's likely that same type of machine made same mistake. Likely there is some kind of trace that is just a touch too small, and if combined with some other issue, maybe mount pressure too weak or something, just fries. Weak mount I find is starting point to this kind of issues, where cpu kinda works, but use while using very specific thing like avx512, it turns off or freezes. For Dram, try LP modules. I have no idea if they would work, but it would be interesting to find out.
Randomness random point. I had a case that one of the pins for the power button got disconnected. Anyways main point you can get a 2 pin, to power button cable. I know you are comfortable with the screwdriver, but if your test boards don't have a physical button it might save some time to get a standalone button you can plug in.
I am curious what speeds the RAM was running at in the systems these CPUs with dead memory channels came from. Because, if I remember correctly, the RAM speed could affect the Infinity Fabric speed, and maybe there's a certain speed that, on certain chips, causes the Infinity Fabric to damage the Memory Lanes? Idk, I am just spouting off ideas that are popping into my head at 1 AM. Great work as always Greg!
Hi. I just updated my cpu from a Ryzen 7 1700 to a ryzen 9 5900x. When I boot my pc it stuck on the motherboard name. Like frozen. I tried everything it still stuck. When I put my old cpu my system boot with no problems. Do you think the cpu is a bad cpu or it has to see with my motherboard. Before I did the swap I updated my bios too to the latest version. My motherboard is the MPG x570 gaming edge WiFi. I’m thinking it may be the CPU because I bought it used on Amazon
I had a ryzen 5600x die a week ago, there was no way to boot, tried a 2700x in the same mobo and it worked, tried a cmos reset and stuff and i got the 5600x to boot and it worked without stability issues for like 6 or 7 hours untill i went to sleep and turned the pc off. Then it didn't boot again, sadly i had no way to test it in other setup so i guess i'll leave it there.
mine 3600 died yesterday after a month or so of use. i got blue screens since the first day but i noticed it worked better with core boost off but one day it got stuck in a boot loop. now im back with the 1400 on this motherboard and trying to unstuck the 3600 from the super glue thermal paste from the stock cooler to send to rma
I have a Ryzen 5 7600 that posts and boots up into BIOS. BIOS can see it as a 7600; it shows the RAM (32 GB T-force vulkan 6000 MHz), but when I try to install Windows 10 or 11, it will give me a BSOD when the Windows install would boot up with random codes. I tried 3 different motherboards (asus tuf gaming x670e, a gigabyte b650m gaming plus wifi, and a MSI PRO B650M-A WiFi ProSeries), 3 PSUs or various wattages (Sama Black Diamond 1000W, 1 Corsair RM 850, and 1 Corsair RM750E), and it will always crash at the same point in the Windows installer boot up. So I just started the RMA process.
The ryzen 5 3600s with dead memory channels would be worth something to dell so they have an excuse to use single channel ram
BROOO 💀💀
damn
Yep, and Dawid just LOVES that single channel RAM
Fix or flop is getting intense!
Brian at Tech Yes City had similar issues with some Ryzen chips and found that some had bad cores and was able to get them working by disabling a core
Choosing a motherboard with a Post Code display would have provided much more useful information.
he doesnt even have a bios chip reader, he just does this videos for money isnt in real repairing PCs
@Chris723 Yeah, UA-camrs generally make videos to make money, super hot take you had there. But to say he's not into repairing PCs is clearly false. He shows the broken PC and then he makes it work, without charging the viewer. It's kind of a win win situation.
@@ignacio8597 I taught after tens of videos he would start buying some diagnositcs equipment, it would make for better videos.
@Chris723 I mean it's not perfect, but people do get free repairs/parts, he makes money, and it does help some people at home try to fix their own stuff. I'd say the general viewers think they're good enough.
Most people don't have Dr Debug visual codes on their MOBO's so this is also useful to get to the bottom of issues
for the chips that do boot in to bios you could try turning cores off, first try to see if it works ok with only 2 cores then enable 4 and so on to find out maybe a 6 core can work fine with 4 cores
Not worth it.
@@JoeNasr123 TF you mean not worth it? He is already in possession of the chips, it costs nothing.
@@TuffMcAwesome Too much work for a chip that's only good enough to throw in the garbage bin..
@@groenevinger3893 sometimes he is too scared to put his working CPUs into motherboards that he suspects might fry them, so I think these partially working CPUs could make for perfect test subjects, as he won't lose anything if they get fried anyway.
The 3900x was a hot chip, and if not properly cooled I could see the IHS becoming partially unsoldered from one or both of the CCX's. This would make it pretty much impossible to thermally manage from then on.
It would be awesome to see him delid it and try it again! It's already damaged so he's not really gonna break it more! lol
solder melts around 200 degrees Celsius. I don't think any 3900X was getting that hot, no matter how bad the cooling was.
all AMD's are hot chips.
I am guessing you ain't old enough to remember the old melting amd chips.
@@dremy746 Different solders melt at different temperatures. The solder used in CPU's is not the same as the lead-tin solder used in making electrical connections. The solder used in CPU's is indium solder, which melts at 157 degrees C, and can soften at lower temps.
@@testickles8834 if you're addressing me, at 58 I suppose I am old enough. I remember water-cooling first-generation athlon's which was quite a trick since you couldn't buy any water cooling Hardware at the time and had to make your own by hand.
"I wish I labeled my CPUs better."
"Let's label this one.... _stubborn_ "
So the first 2 that get stuck on Dram light, I think you are correct mostly...I've seen this a bunch of times...It usually happens when the SOC voltage gets set too high and damages the memory controller...It really doesn't like getting overvolted too much unless you have extreme cooling...
For the ones with dram led... Tech Yes Bryan found he could revive a "dead" 3600 by undervolting in the bios with a good cpu, and then switch to the dead one. It would be interesting if you could make any of yours work by undrvolting or reducing the clocks.
[edit] lol, just got to the last one where you did just that. Worth re-checking some of the others similarly.
100%
I had the exact same issue as the last CPU that you tested here. Tried underclocking as suggested and everything seems to be working now! Thought I had tried everything... Thanks!
Ahh, the joys of troubleshooting used components. Loving this series, keep them coming!
lets hope he doesnt have to keep em coming.. noone wants to deal with dead components
Hey Greg, thanks to you & your fix or flop series i was able to fix my 10 year old desktop, so let me share what happened the. Out of the blue the system started Blue screen of deaths different error everytime so i thought maybe the windows was corrupt and tried to fresh install the windows but it wouldn't let me boot via the Pendrive, so i thought maybe the HDD had given up the ghost. Had a spare HDD lying so decided to swap it and sometimes it would just bootloop and sometimes it would just give no output to display so started by disconnecting RAM's to narrow down the problem so guess what 1 of the RAM sticks had gone faulty so tried putting it in the other slot to rule out defective slot but the RAM was at fault so finally the system started with the other 4 gig stick. I didn't go to any repair shop as most of them just try to rip off, so thanks to you my potato pc started again.
I love how you take everything as a learning experience, to many people want to just be right all the time instead of realizing that there is always something to learn. Keep up the good work greag! awesome video!
At 17:28, was that a spark under the motherboard when he flipped the switch on his PSU?
It sure looked like it! Good catch, I never would have noticed that...Though it could just be a trick of the light from him moving around
RGB Leds, on power first white light... ;)
I would love to try to delid that 5900x and see if it's a contact issue. Maybe there's an internal issue where the chip is barely touching lid. Or maybe try turning one of the CCDs off amd try running at stock settings.
The 5900x seems similar to a few cases of degraded silicon I've seen. With some time you could probably dial in the voltage/clocks to get it running pretty close to stock. Not perfect but would still work well as a homelab CPU or something.
I have an old fx-8370 chip (use it as a test bench and backup media system now).
Used to oc to 5.0GHz, but slowly became unstable over the years.
Now it'll run fine forever at 4775MHz but not at 4800 or more.
As others said, the 5900X is "fixable" by disabling Global C-States control in BIOS, which disables core parking feature. My 5950x just did this last week, while it can be fixed by disabling this option, personally i decided to RMA it instead.
Had a 5800 that would always work with pbo off. Probably a cstate issue but I just got a replacement also
Tech Yes City has had similar problems with AMD cpu's recently. Great video as always, Greg. Much respect.
With the overheating CPUs, try delid and liquid metalling the CPU and putting the IHS back. The thermal glue inside might've dried out or not making contact with the IHS anymore
I believe all Ryzen CPUs are soldered to the IHS
Yeah, they're all soldered... But maybe badly. I second delidding
What percentage of the systems you've gotten in for repair are AMD vs Intel?
No idea. Probably more than half.
@@GregSalazar please ask gamer's nexus if there a systimatic problem with AMD processors...
@@notrixamoris3318 There's no problem with the cpu.
The real problem here is the motherboard and psu.
I have 12 Ryzen cpu and i dont have any problem at all.
But the on my MSI motherboard thats my problem it kill 1 of my CPU.
Asus and gigabyte are good for my experience.
@@lelouchabrilvelda1794 opposite here. I’ve had way more issues with Gigabyte boards than MSI.
This video's great! the monologue of troubleshooting shows how people may want to try to do when they encounter problems with their systems.
I have a Ryzen 72700X. Where one memory channel crapped out. What happened was I changed my cooler for one of those tower coolers and the weight on the tower cooler ripped the Ryzen out of its socket, and I am guessing that that caused some sort of electrical faultin the CPU, as it doesn't like being pulled out of its socket when the power is on. But that's what happened. The main fault lies with the top-heavy weight of the tower cooler and the CPU retention arm. The weight of the cooler pulled the arm out of its socket. There was an easy fix for this and that was to bend the arm towards the socket again, making a better contact with the catch. But by then it was too late.
My verdict is --- Tower coolers are too top-heavy and the CPU retention arms are too weak and don't latch hard enough.
Was wondering when we'd get this video since you've hinted at it a few times
I just want to say thank you for the fix or flop content! Thanks to your methodology I was able to fix a friend's "dead" PC in less than 15 minutes. He thought the mobo was dead and asked me if I could look at it knowing that I have experience building PCs, and I was quickly able to narrow it down to just 1 dead RAM stick. I cleared the CMOS, swapped in a known working GPU, and then tested RAM one stick and one slot at a time. It was so satisfying being able to save that PC as it is still a relatively powerful system.. i7 9700k on a gigabyte z370 motherboard with an RX 6700xt.
So question is there a possibility that improper instillation could have caused these chips to fail? Also maybe not having proper cooling?
I agree....cooling IS an issue with the R5-3600 if you use the pitiful cooler supplied with the CPU. With a good cooler that keeps it below 65C no matter what...mine has been absolutely reliable...so far.(knocks on wood)
If you install poorly it is generally VERY easy to tell why it is broken. Bent pins or massive damage to the socket itself or conductive thermal paste in the socket for example. Thermal loads could cook a chip in theory but in general its not something that will generally cause a chip to fry since people will normally notice something is wrong even if they arent tech literate. In reality though the truth is that no QC is perfect and every company makes lemons or has broken parts slip through the cracks. Or even parts that pass QC if only barely so they fail quickly. Thats one of the reasons you generally want to stress test a new system for a bit after you build it. If something passed the basic QC at the factory but has an issue when its ran hard for a long period its best for it to burn itself out early.
Most properly working CPUs will shut themselves off well before any cooling related damage can happen,
Most likely the overclock fried the chips.
@@abdullahdanze2061 Not much point overclocking a ryzen. I suspect some mobo vendors may be too aggressive with auto voltage settings, causing weaker chips to fail. I've been having erratic issues with my chips.
Recently I had a family member complain that shortly after plugging in his new WD 2TB Elements portable USB 3.0 (the next day actually) his monitor, keyboard, and mouse quit working. I saw that his MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max AM4 MB had every USB port filled with various crap...looked like a porcupine. His poor Corsair VS 450 PSU had to handle a Kingston 120GB SSD (OS boot drive), a WD 250GB HDD, a Seagate Barracuda 500GB HDD, the Ryzen 5 3600 w/stock cooler, 16GB G. Skill Trident Z Neo 3600, 5 UpHere RGB case fans, MSI GTX 1650 Super GPU with 2 monitors plugged in, and some gadget that appeared to have a few mini monitor screens. All the fans and lights were working, as well as the GPU fans.
I noted the PSU didn’t have a connector for the 4-pin CPU PWR2 on the board, which I’ve read the MB only really needs the 8-pin CPU PWR1 but I can’t help but wonder so I suggested he buy a more powerful PSU to handle all the stuff he had plugged in and to make sure it had the connector to fill that void. Well a new Tier A Corsair RM1000e PSU didn’t help so I tried a known working GPU but that didn’t help either. I should note that no settings were ever tinkered with. Everything was totally factory and his Metallic Gear Neo case w/2 Skiron RGB fans, plus the 5-pack of UpHere RGB fans offered plenty of ventilation. I thought for sure the motherboard had an issue.
The next stop was Micro Center for component isolation, which took 3 weeks and they said the problem was the Ryzen 5 3600 failed and it would be $180 to fix. He added that although he just bought everything last summer, (from MC) he didn’t buy the warranty so that’s something he’d have to handle himself through AMD.
Noting how many of those chips have been diagnosed as “bad” plus the one I mentioned, I’m beginning to think AMD may have a dependability issue starting to emerge.
EDIT: MC scared the kid by saying the new CPU would require a new OS and it would wipe everything on the drive. When the kid asked about saving his games and the cost of the next CPU upgrade. The tech said the ($129.99) Ryzen 5 5600 was actually just $20.01 more than the ($109.98) Ryzen 5 3600 and mentioned flashing the MB.
So with another $150 to save his data, the price approached $500.
I suggested that since his OS was on a cheap $20 120GB SSD that he should just put in a higher capacity & faster NVMe for the OS and the old SSD wouldn't have to be touched.
Plus he already had the activation key from the previous OS installation.
Next thing I know, the tech installed the ($49.99) Inland QN322 1TB NVMe and ended up costing “$200 something.” (his words)
I had a 3600X keep resetting when I tried to play videos. I contacted AMD, they couldn't figure the issue. After 2 weeks, they sent me a replacement.
I’m able to boot in b1 & b2 but anytime I try to use a1 or a2 I get error code 55 yellow light on ram everything lights on pc but no display on keyboard and mouse. Do you think this is a problem with the cpu or motherboard slits please let me know anything is helpful.
This should become a super sub series where every 45 videos or 5 bad cpus or any part really of Fix/Flop you should go back and see if you cant fixate or if they are truly broken
A motherboard with debug codes instead of just LEDs (and a power button) would've probably been beneficial for these tests.
Or regarding the power button, you could just use one from an unused case to connect it to the pins instead of having to short the jumpers all the time.
Same here.
I thought they were going to be sent back to AMD to test them?
@@daveward4358 Greg did say he was trying to contact AMD about that but he just hasn't heard back from them yet. He did also say that he will update us once they do contact him back about it.
@@JCmeister9 So AMD probably know they sent out bad batches.
@@daveward4358 Not necessarily, only because we can neither confirm or deny if that's true without proof or evidence. What I can say for sure is that, there were a lot of people who bought these CPU's, so it's possible that failure rates can seem to be higher than what it truly is overall.
Great vid and quite helpful- I build a lot of Ryzen based computer systems and this helps with a "heads up" of possible outcomes. I have not yet witnessed these symptoms, but good to have this knowledge.
I am wondering if the silicon shortage over the last two years has contributed to this issue, are manufacturers reducing the failure threshold/overhead to pump out their products? I am in the process of building my new 13th gen system and it is a major concern that component quality might be compromised by the current lack of raw materials globally.
anyone care to explain whats that light at 6:27 when greg turn his psu on
@12:35 hahah this happened to my first Ryzen 9 5950x after trying out the dynamic oc feature on the Asus Dark Hero x570 it kept cycling between this and corrupted boot device.
Greg, I envy your access to hardware, but I don't envy how much thermal paste you must go through in a week. I'd love to know what brand you use though.
At 19:50 the keyboard is not connected wirelessly, maybe something would happen with a wired one, no idea though
8:06 di something short underneath the motherboard?
for giggles I tried a older weed pen that stopped working (as they all do when the battery dies)....but today, I got two hits (with lights) and it still seems like it can give me more. I know it's not the same but I'm pretty stoked, literally :) Good vid Greg -- you're a genuine dude.
did anyone see the spark on the bottom of the motherboard at 5:18?
Love you vids again Greg, anyways that Blue Eyes Toon Dragon was cool at your back
Hey Greg, found a intresting thing!! 16:30 / 16:37 time in the video when u press on the ram with your finger (Dram) light Changes to CPu , i dont know im the only one noticing it.. Love ur Content!!
But can any of these get replaced under warranty?
Greg your channel is sooo good! I am really enjoying it. Please keep it up. 👏🏼
@12:40 , Should set the RAM speed lower , I have same issues with mine , never OC'd and was always set in eco mode with 45w limits etc
When doing these sort of diagnostics, CPUs have a system called by various names "CPU Internal Error" "CPU IErr," or "CPU Machine Check".
This system is basically in charge of double checking results, e.g. that the CPU didn't do 1 + 1 = 3.
When such error is detected, the CPU will (try to) tell the OS and the OS will log the error and reboot itself (sounds familiar?).
This may require a few tries because sometimes the error is so bad the OS doesn't get the chance to do any of this and the system just hangs or reboots.
In the case of Windows, you'll find this in the Windows Registry Log (kinda hard to reach when you can't boot). In Linux, you should see it right on the boot terminal on screen right before reboot.
This is very useful because it may indicate further info as to what is failing; and you may find workarounds online if others are having the same issue.
I suspect the 5900X was having Machine Checks, and the 3900 from 9:55 may possibly too.
Trying to boot into Linux may also yield more info (particularly if it gets stuck in a specific place)
Greg did you notice the spark at 6:28 would that be the cause of the issue?
Oh shit! Good catch
its funny how i got this video in my recommendation. just build a brand new PC using an AMD Ryzen 9 7900x, and the cpu was a dud, returned it to microcenter for a another one and everything is all good. just suck that i had to drive 2 hours away again to return the CPU,
I've been in IT for over 30 years and I've personally only seen 1 failed processor. Two users with failed processors would have been crazy to me, but 5!? Intel isn't the best but this is shenanigans.
6:27 There was a spark on the cpu socket when you turned the power on
I find it interesting the number of memory issues. Just replaced my 2700 X as the memory controller is depredating. It stopped being able to run the memory on XMP, so I had to drop the voltages and speeds down a few months ago(6) and it was stable until yesterday when the problem made a return. However, I believe a bad bios was to blame in my case as I found that the XMP had gone 1.45 V on Auto which was fixed with a bios update.
some AMD chips that have dual CCD(x900, x950, or some x600 series) may experience some impedance between CCDs especially when theres a degradation problem related to the silicon, their voltage needs heavy adjustment to work normally. TechYESCity demonstrated that by disabling cores/limiting boost frequencies some of these chips could be salvaged.
I have a ryzen cpu that would power on for about 10 seconds and then power off again then after about 3 seconds it powers on and just stay on without display/post/boot. My keyboard light and mouse doesn't appear.Also, my keyboard's Scroll Lock and Caps Lock are on and the keyboard won't respond with me clicking anything. What could possible cause this?
i changes some settings in bios i think cpu volatage ... then pc turn off himsef and wont boot again i try everything cmos reset ...what should i do its my new config 😔😔
I was looking forward to this, since you had quite a collection of dead 3000s.
To be honest I recently built two absolute equal 7600x systems, did the same settings on boths, same gpu, same EVERYTHING aside hard drives.
One was running at 1.4v, the other at 1.29. The former was almost hitting 95°C (on a Dark Rock pro 4!!) the other was running relatively cool in the 80ish pumping better scores all over the place.
I've ended up forcing a Curve optimizer on the 1.4v basically that reduced it to the voltages of the other (even less at -30) and the thing began running cooler than the other and posting roughly the same results if not a tad better. For safety I set the owner to -20, then instructed him how to lower it by time as soon as he checked that he was stable in his editing/gaming/daily routine. He now runs it at -30 and at least in Cpu-z/R23 he gets results slightly better than the other that I've left at stock all while running about 5°C cooler overall.
The above was kinda strange tbh.. same b650M-A pro from MSI, same coolers, same Asus Tuf 6800Xt, same evga supernova G6 850, same g.skill 6000 c36 kit 2x16, same crucial P5 plus, same bios version, same bios settings (at default + just enabled XMP and fan profiles), same Phanteks p500 the only difference was one rig has a 2Tb HDD + 256 sata SSD, the other one just a 3Tb HDD carried over from their previous builds. But that can't be the humongous vcore difference. The only test I didn't do is to swap CPUs between the motherboards, but looking at how the CO cure turned out, I thought I didn't wanted to dismount and remount two Dark Rock Pro 4s 4 times in a day..
I had the same issue with a ryzen where it would post to bios and after resetting to default it wouldn't post. It ended up being a TPM setting. I used another CPU, installed Windows with the tpm bypass mod and it worked fine after
Ryzen cpu are very peculiar with memory. Is it possible to try different AMD recommended memory modules?
Memory was isolated in their respective FoF episodes on top of the single DIMM used here at 2133 MHz.
"Died" Zen CPU - this is normal for Gigabyte mobo. There are many cases even on UA-cam. There will always be a Aorus mother .
im from malaysia, i had a problem with my pc, i bought everything new except gpu, i had a problem with my pc, sometime it wont boot the display like 75 percent wont 25 percent it boot fine(could be die in the middle on, giving 5 beepiing when trying to boot up, i tried change everything, put one by one on healthy pc, still not finding any, this is some kind of mysterious sick, help
I got a problem similar to this, I got a MSI B 550 A Pro motherboard with a Ryzen 5 5600. Worked great for a month, no heating issues. One day I go to power on the PC and it does nothing. Changed out the PSU and ram, gpu. still the same. Then I took out the CPU and it fired right up, but the motherboard will no longer let me bios flash. Keep in mind you do not need ram or cpu in most msi boards with bios button.
I got a little problem. If i use the recommended DRAM slots and use XMP the pc won’t boot. But if I turn off xmp it will boot.
If I use another set of DRAM in the same slots and with xmp the computer boots…
But if I use another slots and use xmp, the computer boots… with the difference DRAMS.
i have a GIGABYTE B550 AORUS Master, getting the cpu red light, the memory lights turns on, the cpu fan doesn't, no beeps, i ordered a new mother board, i have a ryzen 7 never came across a bad cpu so thought it was the MB, I am pissed that it could be the cpu
maybe its incompatible memory with the cpu. being as the led for cpu goes off and goes to dram. m sure if it was a cpu problem the led would stay on cpu. so the cpu might be fine as its passing on diagnostic leds
Where did you get that motherboard speaker from? I’ve tried those super tiny ones in the past, but they exude the shrillest, most unpleasant beep. This one was much better!
1st chip, had the identical issue with the exact same board with a 5600 the day after I assembled, i left it plugged out without the bios batterry and issue gone
I have a Ryzen 9 5900x as well that just boot loops when trying to go into WIndows. I just got tired of it and replaced it.
Did you clear the CMOS for every CPU?
Preface: I may have a Ryzen 5 5600X with a failing memory controller.
Throughout the past few weeks, I've been troubleshooting one of my PC builds. Around the same time as swapping graphics cards, my SFF rig became quite unstable, lots of random restarts. It freezes or reboots anywhere from immediately after POST to maybe 30 min in. The instability can be at idle, launching an app, activating the Start menu, closing an app, during a benchmark, etc. I've (re)verified the GPU, an RTX 4070 Ti, stability in another system. The previous card, an RX 6900 XT, is just as or more power hungry, therefore, I doubt(ed) a PSU problem. Many "clean" Windows 10 and 11 installs with various attempts at driver versions and driver install order made no improvement. When they would/could complete, benchmarks were fairly on par. I also changed the memory setting to Auto (i.e., base 2133 MT/s) and disabled onboard components (e.g., audio, Wi-Fi, BT) one-by-one via BIOS. Believing I've narrowed the culprit to RAM, CPU, or motherboard, I decided to do another DIMM reseating, though I swapped slots this time. Welp... This resulted in the board not making it through POST, lighting the DRAM Q-LED. No matter what, I couldn't get it passed the DRAM stage, that is, until I ran the system with only one DIMM. We're back to booting but still very unstable. I felt it improbable both DIMMs had failed. So, I swapped in a single stick of Kingston Fury (also DDR4-3200). System again boots, although, no improvement of stability. So, the problem appears to be down to the motherboard or CPU. And after recalling the failures you showcase in this video, I'm leaning CPU.
UPDATE: I purchased a 5700X3D... Same problems. So, turns out, it was the motherboard... Somehow...
Ultimately, I decided this was time for a platform upgrade. I returned the 5700X3D and sold the 5600X and DRAM to SellGPU, which claimed the components passed their tests.
So far, the system is going strong on an Ryzen 7700X, ASRock B650E PG-ITX, and Flare X5 DDR5-6000. Same GPU, PSU, and SSD as before the platform replacement.
I also have a pc here that has AMD A10 apu in it. Everything was fine and stable in the bios(updated and set to defaults) but everytime i install an os, it keeps crashing and giving me bsod. I already tried changing the ssd, sata cable, and sata port but still same issues. When i install an os from a different pc(intel) then put back together to this pc it will boot up but after a few minutes it will crash and show bsod again.
i would reset the cmos every time when swapping the cpu. maybe it does not wanna work with various speeds or timings. just to be sure.
It makes sense that the IMC in AMD chips fail more than non K intel chips. The more freedom you give users the more variety you need to support ram wise. Running outside of its preferred settings with higher clocks and tighter timings is higher risk.
Similar to turning up the boost on turbo cars. It puts pressure on other parts: clutch, fuel system etc.
I swapped my radiatior fans from intake to exhaust and got BSOD's. Reset Bios and it boots but if I overclock the RAM a little it BSOD's so I swapped the slots and it works fine now in A and C. Really confusing stuff.
The labeling of the cpu as "bad" reminded me of a system one of my clients asked me to diagnose and the only information I had to go on was the label which read "doesn't".
Good vid, love the troubleshooting.
Maybe contact Steve from gamer nexus. This sort of situation might be down his alley. Especially if it shows to be a batch wide situation There could be hundreds of Ryzen 3000 chips on the verge of going bad and could open exactly why they could be turning. Might turn into an interesting collab.
@GregSalazar for the 5900X try to Enable PBO instead of Deactivating it. And try out to activate the Eco Mode (75W/90W) inside of PBO.
I had the exact same Issue, with an 5800X. At Stock Settings it was Boot Looping all the Time until i used the PBO Eco Mode and it wasnt even much slower. Like around 5-10%.
TechYesCity also had this overheating issue with ryzen 3600s. You can also try disabling cpu cores if undervolting doesn't work and see if it works.
17:55 recently I also experienced this issue (boot to automatic repair), my solution is disable fast boot and longer time for display bios (3s to 5s)
I know this video is kinda old, but i just got a Ryzen 9 5950x and my mobo gets stuck with a cpu light on; I've tested with just the mobo cpu and one Ram and it still just has cpu light on, any advice?
Commenting before I finish the vid, I've only hit the 5 min mark. But what you said in the 4:30 - 4:59 is exactly why you're one of my favorites.
I loveeee buying "dead" bent or broken ryzen cpus, and now they power all my rigs
im about to get a 7800x3d and first amd cpu for me since athlon, should i be worried about the quality of these amd chips?
17:29 a spark was there under the motherboard :))
i have a similiar issue with my laptop, ryzen 7 4800h, sometimes just black screens and restarts
2 or 3 years ago I was diagnosing my friend's computer and it turned out that the motherboard and the Ryzen 3 1200 processor were damaged
@GregSalazar I have a weird issue with a 5950X, where it boots into windows just fine, but when ever I try and install windows on a fresh drive, it locks up. Does it in Recovery, does it with USB media, does it with installing from the OS itself doing a system reset. Had 4 sticks of RAM, went down to 1 stick, and rotated between the 4 sticks individually in different slots, same issue. Memtest86 runs indefinitely without an issue though. I can even run a game and it wont crash, but I cannot reinstall windows! I am hoping its a motherboard issue of some kind, and have a new MB on the way to test it out, but I have never come across anything quite as bizzare. Changed PSU, and GPU too, no change to the behavour. Fresh HDD, cant even install off USB media as it locks up part way through selecting the options for the install.
I had this in my main system, which was water cooled with a custom loop, and it ran for almost 2 years. No overclock, and the loop stayed really cool with a RTX3080 in the same loop. Dual radiators etc.
Changed to an AM5 system now, but really want to get to the bottom of this, as it would be a good 2nd system or NAS kind of thing.
Ever seen anything like this?
I just bought a brand new Ryzen 7 7800x3d and motherboard and ram to go with it but I can’t get it to post I’ve reseated the cpu and the ram but still nothing my motherboard has debug leds and the cpu one is red and the dram one is yellow but idk what that means any tips?
i work in a computer shop and have seen 2x r9 5900 , 1x r9 5950 and a threadripper 3960x all worked for about 6 to 9 months and just die and dealing with amd warranty is super bad . i am in australia
ok soo try this manually turn the infinity/ fclk down to 1.3ghz set ddr4 to xmp then set cpu voltage to 1.2 v see if it posts
Hi Greg, I have a ryzen 5 3600 with aorus b450 elite. My pc wont start, and no light debug show in motherboard. Is the motherboard dead or my processor was dead? Help me, thank U
Is that a Blue-Eyes Toon Dragon in the background? 😍 I think I also see The Winged Dragon of Ra and Relinquished, I could be wrong. I can’t tell what the other two are.
How do you know the bod's who sent in the dead rigs did not have insane OC's that fried them.
About dram issue, try pressing cpu a bit harder to the mount. I saw ONE cpu where mount pressure needed to work consistently was a bit unreasonable. Maybe that was not one time wired chip.
Just FYI try different slots for gpu and drive, sometimes you have just tiny part of the cpu shorted, and for example m.2 slots are unusable, but otherwise cpu works. Disable that part in bios, and you have yourself working, although crippled a bit cpu.
It's not wired that same skews have same issues, it's likely that same type of machine made same mistake. Likely there is some kind of trace that is just a touch too small, and if combined with some other issue, maybe mount pressure too weak or something, just fries.
Weak mount I find is starting point to this kind of issues, where cpu kinda works, but use while using very specific thing like avx512, it turns off or freezes.
For Dram, try LP modules. I have no idea if they would work, but it would be interesting to find out.
Randomness random point. I had a case that one of the pins for the power button got disconnected. Anyways main point you can get a 2 pin, to power button cable. I know you are comfortable with the screwdriver, but if your test boards don't have a physical button it might save some time to get a standalone button you can plug in.
I am curious what speeds the RAM was running at in the systems these CPUs with dead memory channels came from. Because, if I remember correctly, the RAM speed could affect the Infinity Fabric speed, and maybe there's a certain speed that, on certain chips, causes the Infinity Fabric to damage the Memory Lanes?
Idk, I am just spouting off ideas that are popping into my head at 1 AM. Great work as always Greg!
Hi. I just updated my cpu from a Ryzen 7 1700 to a ryzen 9 5900x. When I boot my pc it stuck on the motherboard name. Like frozen. I tried everything it still stuck. When I put my old cpu my system boot with no problems. Do you think the cpu is a bad cpu or it has to see with my motherboard. Before I did the swap I updated my bios too to the latest version. My motherboard is the MPG x570 gaming edge WiFi. I’m thinking it may be the CPU because I bought it used on Amazon
I had a issue with the b550 board i had not being able to keep up the power demand for my 5900x so i move on from a b550
I had a ryzen 5600x die a week ago, there was no way to boot, tried a 2700x in the same mobo and it worked, tried a cmos reset and stuff and i got the 5600x to boot and it worked without stability issues for like 6 or 7 hours untill i went to sleep and turned the pc off. Then it didn't boot again, sadly i had no way to test it in other setup so i guess i'll leave it there.
Seems like 22:42 might be a degraded chip. Needs more voltage and can't go as high without wheezing.
No display on BIOS Screen, but boots normaly to Windows. please help me
mine 3600 died yesterday after a month or so of use. i got blue screens since the first day but i noticed it worked better with core boost off but one day it got stuck in a boot loop. now im back with the 1400 on this motherboard and trying to unstuck the 3600 from the super glue thermal paste from the stock cooler to send to rma
I wonder if slower memory (2400 or less) can work with the first couple of chips with dram errors.
His ram was running at 2133mhz
I have a Ryzen 5 7600 that posts and boots up into BIOS. BIOS can see it as a 7600; it shows the RAM (32 GB T-force vulkan 6000 MHz), but when I try to install Windows 10 or 11, it will give me a BSOD when the Windows install would boot up with random codes. I tried 3 different motherboards (asus tuf gaming x670e, a gigabyte b650m gaming plus wifi, and a MSI PRO B650M-A WiFi ProSeries), 3 PSUs or various wattages (Sama Black Diamond 1000W, 1 Corsair RM 850, and 1 Corsair RM750E), and it will always crash at the same point in the Windows installer boot up. So I just started the RMA process.