Exactly why I watch this fight. The footwork is phenomenal. Surprisingly more Ortiz for me than Lomachenko. Loma didn't use the steps he usually does to get behind the opponent and he didn't keep his jab up to blind Ortiz. I wonder why? Maybe thought it wouldn't work? They are very familiar with each other.
Everybody in the comments talking about loma but not giving props to Ortiz. He was the underdog and honestly the fight was a tie. He can give, shakur, tank, teo, and everybody problems.
I've learned over the years of watching fights, games whatever sport it maybe, it's always best to watch with the volume off.u would be surprised how much of an effect the commentary can have on how you see the fight. First time I watched it with no sound at first and then now with sound and Ortiz didn't land half the stuff they were highlighting lol
Spot on, they tried to convince everyone that the fight was closer than it was by highlighting the younger undefeated fighter. Same with the Lopez fight
Okay watching this fight now, Loma didn’t seem nearly as bad watching it again as he did in person. A few things. Haney doesn’t have the same style as Ortiz. He will need to push forward and be willing to be physical with Loma. He can’t rely on his reach alone if he wants to beat Loma. He needs to be willing to take risks. Ortiz was willing to take risks. I don’t see Haney willing to do the same.
100% agree.. You can combine Haney and Shakur and they won't be nowhere as offensive as Ortiz.. Ortiz is extremely underrated and was one of Lomas toughest fights for sure
@@vicc5459 Haney is definitely not going to bring the fight to Loma the way Ortiz did.. But yea Haney has a jab but the aggressive offense is not there.. Will be a great fight nonetheless
Haney will fight like he did against Kambosos, jab and hug. FFS, he pretty much did that all night. The weight bully has nothing in his arsenal against Loma. Loma takes the cake this may 20th to reclaim his titles.
Lomachenko is such a hard fighter to beat because of his mentality. He always goes into the fight being the smaller guy and a lot of fighters think they have that psychological edge, until they get hit with one of his punches and until he frustrates you with his angles. I was very impressed with Jermaine after rewatching this fight again and I think Jermaine can give a lot of cats at 135 or 140 a real run for their money. He’s not a household name so people will probably scoff at that, but Jermaine is the goods. Watch out!
Lomachenko is too small for 135. And is 35 years old. Haney is has the size and length and skills to nullify lomachenko. I would love for lomachenko to prove me wrong but I would imagine him being a substantial underdog. Neither guy has fought someone like e as another but I’m a fight like this you have to take the younger guy who has great skill and size as well.
100 percent. I noticed this when I watched him against Loma. His speed and work rate were impressive. He was also lomas sparing partner and fought many rounds with Loma. Ortiz had experience fighting Loma. Haney just has a plan.
@@muggamillstv3439 based on watching them fight... Go watch the Ortiz vs Loma fight, then go watch the Haney vs Kambosos 2 fight. Loma vs Ortiz is LEVELS above Haney and Kambozo. Those are two competely different levels of fights, with Ortiz vs Loma being some high level boxing.
For starters instead of discrediting Loma let's give credit to Ortiz for having the speed, aggressiveness and work rate as well as ring IQ to give lomanchenko a challenge. I personally don't see Haney being aggressive or pressing the action like Ortiz did.
Ortiz is a good fighter but he's at least ten levels below guys like Haney, tank and Shakur. The top of the top dominate Loma. I'm not even sure Loma beats a Ryan Garcia or rollie Romero
@@matthewanthony4606 Ahh! we will soon see! Loma is on another level. I think he own Haney and Shakur has holes to exploit... young man is to emotional. he will loose his concentration when the kitchen get hot enough.
Agreed, i understand some who say he’s allegedly “downloading” information from his opponents. But why not put in work while doing so to win some early rounds. And once he gets the “data” needed, then execute at will. Then again, perhaps, easier said than done since we’re not the ones in the ring.
Seems like other Eastern Bloc countries do this as well. It drove Emmanuel Steward crazy when he first got with Klitschko bc they did 5 min rounds, but with very little activity. Emmanuel stopped that immediately bc he didn't see the point in extending the round when you're not being active. Sugar Hill said GGG trained this way too.
Loma has an excuse to wait a little : he now only fight real bigger men who will end up 2 or 3 weights abive, when he comes from way below... So if he rushes too early, he takes early punishment, before the opponent slows a little and begin to respect his timing... But for the 12 rounds era and at his age, it isn't enough anymore, i guess. I suppose with 15, he would really emphasize his late rally. Here, that 's a draw or a 1 point victory either way, not more. But looking at Ortiz face, or Lopez before that, i guess that 15 would be too much, against his brainiac IQ and his pitbull mentality. Soon the end of his road, but what a sweet rocket scientist... Kambosos could be easier than the last two. But what then? Ortiz could well be world champion soon. Yet, maybe not against Lopez, tonight! Depends on who he'll be fighting, Doctor Lopez or Mister Théo! 🥊😜
Gotta give Loma credit. He's daring to be great and also fighting young kongs. Teofimo Lopez, Jamaine Ortiz and now Devin Haney for undisputed. Nuff respect CAMACHO!!!🥊🥊🥊🔥🔥🔥🔥
On eye test it although I’m sure there was some rust it wasn’t about Loma looking bad, Ortiz just looked dammed good. Throw your agendas out the window and give this man props. He was fighting a hell of a fight
exactly, people are either blind and think every punch landed clean or just value agression too much. Loma dominated Lopez second half of the fight with clean effective shots, while Lopez landed maybe 3 body shots on the first half of the fight and 50 shots to the gloves
@@sr2340 Agreed. Haney is way over rated. i`ve just put £20 on loma to beat haney, and another £20 on a ten round knockout. Nice to meet a fan that knows his boxing.
@@laurencemoore8519 For sure bro. Ortiz if he catches Shakur it would end too. Ortiz has power. Haney and Shakur don't. Haney has been able to get this far on his reach/height/ and his hugging capability. Ortiz and him are about the same size, he would beat Haney. I will think this until it actually happens which I doubt it will because once Loma beats Haney, Haney's career is going to take a nosedive.
@@sr2340 the hype around Haney amazes me, hes good at best but a great? What have people been smoking to say that, and if does that to your thought process can i have some. People are comparing him to Mayweather? How? Unless of course they mean his mothers boxing ability. Ortiz impressed me and Im surprised he`s of the radar. I cant wait for the loma fight, i have a feeling he ill show just how good he is and finally make the haters eat their words.
Love Lomachenko but Ortiz won that fight 7-5 gave lomachenko 9,10,11, and 12 had him down big through 8 rounds 7-1, at worst it was a draw but these scores ufff
I don’t know i give loma 6 rounds i think i should’ve been a draw Ortiz was pouring it on 1-4 loma stepped up in 5 , 6 can go either way , 7-8 Ortiz , 9-12 loma
Anyone who thinks Dev will walk through Loma cuz of this fight, has no idea about boxing at all, Dev does not fight with this kinda volume like what so ever, he’s a single shot guy who’s very defensively minded, yes Dev may win its definitely 50-50, but I strongly see Loma giving hella problems to Haney, and has a strong shot at winning, and if he does I really wouldn’t consider it a huge upset.
Lomachenko beated an incredible fighter. That Ortiz is has everything to be a champion. What a great fighter. But Loma's tech and exprience were superior
got 7-5 loma. if ortiz didn't gas out in later rounds he could have won. still think ortiz is very underrated and beats kambosos and 50/50 with haney fight
Lomanın performansını kimse beğenmedi ama bence yanılıyorlar, jamaine ortiz'i göz ardı etmekle,.hızlı, güçlü çok teknik ve tam bir atlet. Bu genç yetenek ortiz, haneyle 'de dövüşse sıkıntı verir benim düşüncem,. Loma ayak manevra ve tecrübesiyle aldı maçı az farkla
@@EvilDead_Editzbruh that’s my thing haney fought like this but attacked the body more & I remember when the fight first happened people were saying ortiz got robbed 7-5 Ortiz but when it’s haney it’s Loma got robbed I had it 7-5 haney
very good Fight, was well impressed with Jermaine Ortiz, very close Fight & tbh there wasn't that many points in it 117/111 & 116/112 115/113 was more like it but there was a few Swing Rounds, he's got a decent future has Ortiz.
Reminds me of the PAC fight where he landed a lot of punches on the arms and shoulders of Mayweather so ppl thought he won. 😂 but I will say he showed up and showed out tho. I like this kid
Those comentators ,Loma landing 4 combinations (talking some other shitt)Ortiz landing Shot in Loma Gloves -very good Shot from Ortiz. Loma Always get disrespect from Them
Ese Ortiz es muy bueno , digno rival , no veo gente estúpida diciendo que es un ídolo solo por soportar 12 raunds con Lomachenko como si hacen los nopales con su Chihuahua cruz y eso que Ortiz si dió muestra de mejores habilidades defensivas y ofensivas..la calidad de Ortiz le da mas méritos a la victoria de loma
@@jose1024tala y como puede perder el que dió los mejores golpes ? El que busco la pelea fue loma , tirar muchos golpes no es sinónimo de ganar , es pegar con precisión como lo hizo loma , Ortiz gran rival
Loma doesn't really like to KO people. If it comes it comes, other than that he always respects who he goes in there against. Look how he backs off with Commey and lets Commey finish the fight.
Ortiz did great but got credit for way too many blocked punches or like the hook the landed wrist 1st on Loma causing his black eye a lot of his punches werent landing clean. lomas were.,.
Never saw Loma give him that belt before. I was of an opinion, having watched the fight several times, that Lomachenko had more effective punches and was just harder to hit than Ortiz, and that Lomachenko won. But seeing him give Ortiz that belt afterwards....
Man idk Loma is very slick and he's there one second and the next he's not. He plays a movement game and guys get caught up in that and they focus on what he's gunna do instead of focusing on what t they want/need to do. I love tank and it would make for an interesting fight. With 400 amateur fights under his belt and being on the back end of his prime I think Is catching up with him. Gunna be an interesting fight vs the weight bully Devin haney.
Just imagine if tank actually found his nuts to step in the ring with loma. Instead of coming with every excuse not to fight him😂. Let me guess he’s waiting till loma turns 40 using that mayweather blue print.
@@nightryder16 blocking punches with your face does not equal slick. Tank is levels above loma, Shakur is levels above loma, Haney is levels above loma. Hell, I'd may even pick clowns like Ryan Garcia and Rollie to beat loma.
@@youtubedeletesmychannels2329 10 months off is the average time for any fighter these days stfu. Usyk came back fought Joshua Spence was out over a year twice in his career came back and beat champions wtf are you talking about? Go watch golf
@@hiramnozall2245 usyk beat a guy he already dominated. Spence is younger. Congratulations you don’t know boxing. Maybe you should take your own advice or watch ping pong
@@youtubedeletesmychannels2329 so what? So Floyd Mayweather was old or let talk about George Forman… never mind you just proved you know absolutely nothing about boxing and to blame it on age for a so called elite just proved it I came name so many boxers way older that came back after real lay offs that came back but you are obviously a low level casual so I won’t waste my time🤣🤣🤣🤣 you do know Lomachenko and Spence are 2 years apart right?🤣🤡
@@hiramnozall2245 so spence is? YOUNGER you 🤡 cringe pewdiepie 9 year old fan. Wtf do you know🤣🤣🤣 Loma BEEN out for damn near a YEAR. A year of INACTIVITY you lil 9 year old kid
Well, I watched the fight and yeah that woman is clueless! But still i can't see how people think Ortiz won this fight, I didnt see him land a single power punch to rock Loma once, he definitely made him work hard to hit him, but ultimately Ortiz could not land the big shots. Loma landed plenty. Also Ortiz was letting his guard down- literally as you will notice and at least twice Loma timed him beautifully and hit him hard and fast with a combination. Ortiz is a great young boxer, he'll be back and better next time. Great fight.
I watching this fight afer a couple of months. And what I noticed that Ortiz had been in absolutely crazy shape that time. He was confident and very active during all the fight. Honestly i don't think Haney can do the same things in the ring as Ortiz did with Loma. From what i saw after many Haney's fights, that he's slow and move not that fast like Ortiz did it. Maybe, Jamaine was more difficult test for Lom that Haney suppose to be
@@davidguardado8282 we'll see, I'm sure Haney will bring all his best for Loma, but once again it's not likely that he can bring more problems to loma than Ortiz
Loma’s preparation for Haney was this beast. Haney’s preparation for Loma was Kambosos 😅😅😅😅 Man, Haney will be exposed worse than Lacy did vs Calzaghe, Joshua vs Usyk and Wilder vs Fury. He will get beat badly before he’s KO’d cold.
@@mrjamesgrimes haha, I never dig the commentary of these fights so I’m not paying attention anyway. I guess I’m saying Loma has to do more to win over Haney regardless of the winner of this one. I could be a bad judge but I saw what I saw here…
I don’t think it was unanimous more like a majority decision. Loma has to be better than that against Haney. He has good defense but his age worries me. Loma has defense that Haney may not have seen before. But if Haney can ruff up Loma then he may possibly win. I think the way to beat Loma is rough him up and be aggressive
I know how Loma can get the knockout power!... Train arm wrestling with Devon laratt Shoulder and pull excerpts would obviously shine with his body type.
Who is that woman commentator? She talked all the way through and said NOTHING the entire time. Most annoying commentary I've ever heard on a fight. Anyone know who she is so I can avoid fights she's calling?
I think you could make a better case for ortiz beating Loma than Haney. Both close fights that could have easily been draws but Loma punished haney more than he did Ortiz.
Ortiz let this fight slip between his hands . Started off strong , let loma come back to end the fight . 117-111 is bs though . Much closer fight than that
Feels like they're grading Ortiz on a curve. Ortiz' head snapped back by punches on the regular, seems like easily more than a dozen times. Loma's landing ALL the clean combinations. Ortiz missing power shots more than he's landing. Ortiz lands one shot and they are like "he's stealing the round" Loma absolutely dominated round 11, they're like "the judges have a tough task" WTF? Good fight, but Loma all day.
@@andrerandall7873 you must have a very low intelligence level to think that. You think missing and having your punches blocked is winning? That's pretty dumb. Watch a punch count, Ortiz won three rounds max. Even Ortiz doesn't think he won. Only dumb black clowns that pretend to be boxing fans do.
Rewatch it slower playback speed if you think Ortiz was landing those speedy combinations you’re delusional even that jab was hitting nothing but glove lol
Vasya won handily. I scored it 116-112 for Lomachenko. Yank commentators seem not to be aware of what is a scoring shot and what is not. That said, creditable effort by Ortiz. 👏
117-111 For Loma is crazyyyyyyy
I had it 116-112 for Loma. It was 4-4 up till the 8th, then Loma took off.
@@brando3342Loma did not win 4 of the first 8 lol maybe 2. Should have been a draw or 7-5 for Ortiz
@@toddtaylor3680 Oof, what a bad take 🤦♂️
@@brando3342just scored there fight... same thing. 116 - 112 Loma
The title got me dying .. bro that is not Victor Ortiz .. that’s Jamaine Ortiz 😂😂😂
I wish it was Victor ortiz lol miss that guy
@@The053199fook dat guy he is a quitter , bollocks
Yeah great fighter.
Ortiz trained very well for Loma, you can see how he was countering Lomas angles with his own movement.
Thats cuz they sparring partners, so he alr knew his style
I love it when the camera shows the birds eye view because you can really see their beautiful footwork - beautiful pivots, feints & angles.
Exactly why I watch this fight. The footwork is phenomenal. Surprisingly more Ortiz for me than Lomachenko. Loma didn't use the steps he usually does to get behind the opponent and he didn't keep his jab up to blind Ortiz. I wonder why? Maybe thought it wouldn't work? They are very familiar with each other.
Everybody in the comments talking about loma but not giving props to Ortiz. He was the underdog and honestly the fight was a tie. He can give, shakur, tank, teo, and everybody problems.
Yeah.
I've learned over the years of watching fights, games whatever sport it maybe, it's always best to watch with the volume off.u would be surprised how much of an effect the commentary can have on how you see the fight. First time I watched it with no sound at first and then now with sound and Ortiz didn't land half the stuff they were highlighting lol
You should see the broadcast with Tim Bradley on the call. You'd think Loma was the worst boxer ever and never landed a punch.
Yup... just a bunch of opinions in real time.
Yeah Loma bruised his own face
@@BrandonMlotshwa his face was scraped by the tape on Ortiz' glove
Spot on, they tried to convince everyone that the fight was closer than it was by highlighting the younger undefeated fighter. Same with the Lopez fight
Ortiz is a real good boxer
Okay watching this fight now, Loma didn’t seem nearly as bad watching it again as he did in person. A few things. Haney doesn’t have the same style as Ortiz. He will need to push forward and be willing to be physical with Loma. He can’t rely on his reach alone if he wants to beat Loma. He needs to be willing to take risks. Ortiz was willing to take risks. I don’t see Haney willing to do the same.
100% agree.. You can combine Haney and Shakur and they won't be nowhere as offensive as Ortiz.. Ortiz is extremely underrated and was one of Lomas toughest fights for sure
Haney does what Irtiz did but better. Better jab. Better footwork. Looks like he punches harder. He’s gonna beat up Lil Loma.
@@vicc5459 Haney is definitely not going to bring the fight to Loma the way Ortiz did.. But yea Haney has a jab but the aggressive offense is not there.. Will be a great fight nonetheless
@@FrancisD He won’t have to sell out as long as he doesn’t back up.
Haney will fight like he did against Kambosos, jab and hug. FFS, he pretty much did that all night. The weight bully has nothing in his arsenal against Loma. Loma takes the cake this may 20th to reclaim his titles.
Lomachenko is such a hard fighter to beat because of his mentality. He always goes into the fight being the smaller guy and a lot of fighters think they have that psychological edge, until they get hit with one of his punches and until he frustrates you with his angles. I was very impressed with Jermaine after rewatching this fight again and I think Jermaine can give a lot of cats at 135 or 140 a real run for their money. He’s not a household name so people will probably scoff at that, but Jermaine is the goods. Watch out!
Lomachenko is too small for 135. And is 35 years old.
Haney is has the size and length and skills to nullify lomachenko.
I would love for lomachenko to prove me wrong but I would imagine him being a substantial underdog.
Neither guy has fought someone like e as another but I’m a fight like this you have to take the younger guy who has great skill and size as well.
@@oldironsides4107 nope
not just mentally but chess mindset.
100 percent. I noticed this when I watched him against Loma. His speed and work rate were impressive. He was also lomas sparing partner and fought many rounds with Loma. Ortiz had experience fighting Loma. Haney just has a plan.
@@muhammadilhamilham92 good point
Jermaine Ortiz is better than Devin Haney. There I said it.
How so ?
Based on what you just chatting 😂
@@muggamillstv3439 based on watching them fight... Go watch the Ortiz vs Loma fight, then go watch the Haney vs Kambosos 2 fight. Loma vs Ortiz is LEVELS above Haney and Kambozo.
Those are two competely different levels of fights, with Ortiz vs Loma being some high level boxing.
Ortiz's corner was amazing
Bro, you're a legend. Thanks for this!
Loma gave Ortiz the belt at the end of the fight he knew he lost
For starters instead of discrediting Loma let's give credit to Ortiz for having the speed, aggressiveness and work rate as well as ring IQ to give lomanchenko a challenge. I personally don't see Haney being aggressive or pressing the action like Ortiz did.
lm just watching this and Loma could have added a uppercut to that combo in the 3rd and ended this fight real quick imo.
Ortiz is a good fighter but he's at least ten levels below guys like Haney, tank and Shakur. The top of the top dominate Loma. I'm not even sure Loma beats a Ryan Garcia or rollie Romero
@@matthewanthony4606 Ahh! we will soon see! Loma is on another level. I think he own Haney and Shakur has holes to exploit... young man is to emotional. he will loose his concentration when the kitchen get hot enough.
Who’s too emotional? Haney is one of the most disciplined fighters in the business today . You’re in for a rude awakening .
@@matthewanthony4606 lmao rollie Romero 😂😂😂😂 that one got me
It’s like Loma trains for 15 rounds. Dude has got to understand to get going quicker.
He does, his dad has him train for 15 rounds, 4 minutes long, with either 30 or 45 seconds of rest between rounds
@@ablecantaim7112 that’s good but in the fight he takes to long to get going
Agreed, i understand some who say he’s allegedly “downloading” information from his opponents. But why not put in work while doing so to win some early rounds. And once he gets the “data” needed, then execute at will.
Then again, perhaps, easier said than done since we’re not the ones in the ring.
Seems like other Eastern Bloc countries do this as well. It drove Emmanuel Steward crazy when he first got with Klitschko bc they did 5 min rounds, but with very little activity. Emmanuel stopped that immediately bc he didn't see the point in extending the round when you're not being active. Sugar Hill said GGG trained this way too.
Loma has an excuse to wait a little : he now only fight real bigger men who will end up 2 or 3 weights abive, when he comes from way below... So if he rushes too early, he takes early punishment, before the opponent slows a little and begin to respect his timing...
But for the 12 rounds era and at his age, it isn't enough anymore, i guess. I suppose with 15, he would really emphasize his late rally. Here, that 's a draw or a 1 point victory either way, not more. But looking at Ortiz face, or Lopez before that, i guess that 15 would be too much, against his brainiac IQ and his pitbull mentality. Soon the end of his road, but what a sweet rocket scientist... Kambosos could be easier than the last two. But what then? Ortiz could well be world champion soon. Yet, maybe not against Lopez, tonight! Depends on who he'll be fighting, Doctor Lopez or Mister Théo! 🥊😜
Gotta give Loma credit. He's daring to be great and also fighting young kongs. Teofimo Lopez, Jamaine Ortiz and now Devin Haney for undisputed. Nuff respect CAMACHO!!!🥊🥊🥊🔥🔥🔥🔥
On eye test it although I’m sure there was some rust it wasn’t about Loma looking bad, Ortiz just looked dammed good. Throw your agendas out the window and give this man props. He was fighting a hell of a fight
A lot of people here thought ortiz won because he throw a lot of punch that dont connect
worked for Lopez
His punch was fast and soft, doesn't effect Loma, but when Loma punch it snaps Ortiz head off
exactly, people are either blind and think every punch landed clean or just value agression too much. Loma dominated Lopez second half of the fight with clean effective shots, while Lopez landed maybe 3 body shots on the first half of the fight and 50 shots to the gloves
@@isndikdiw777 if it was mayweather they would say beautiful defense, these fans who think ortiz won are delusional
@@mattdemon5625no they would and have called it running, thats what you guys say, now that loma does it its different
Bro how did Loma win this fight? I was waiting for a knockout and it never came?
what a nice fight man, good boy ortiz, what a fighter. love to whatch loma fight, he is the most entertining boxer to see
Thank you for posting the video up. Now I can study and make some money on Lomo vs haney.
Bet your 🏠😅
@Quayshawn Austin lol hell no. But maybe $1000 imma see . If Lomo is the underdog he's a good pick.
Loma definitely lost that fight
Loma got the win on paper, but the boxing fans know who the winner really is.
Ortiz got swag and rhythm
Ya. He got that Roy jones jr. style. Go look up one of his old fights so you can see
Man, I'm only half way through the 3rd. Round. What a display of foot work, especially from Loma.
WHAT FOOT WORK? U CALL LOMA FOOTWORK? 👈🏼🤡🤡🤡 ROBERRY‼️
😂 he got lumped up in the first round and you saying his footwork is nice.. 🧢.. 👃 bleeding dude just stop
@@quayshawnaustin9335
Is accidentally rubbing off with abrasive tape is what you call lumped up? Hater clown
@@quayshawnaustin9335 lol and abrasion from glove tape is your argument 🤣🤣you a 🤡
A couple of aids cells
Ortiz would not be an easy fight for Haney or Shakur. They just want to discredit Loma and they are underestimating Ortiz.
I think ortiz would smoke Haney. shakur i`ve only seen fight once, hes good but i dont think hes as special as they say. Loma will beat haney.
@@laurencemoore8519 Ortiz would beat Haney for sure.
@@sr2340 Agreed. Haney is way over rated. i`ve just put £20 on loma to beat haney, and another £20 on a ten round knockout. Nice to meet a fan that knows his boxing.
@@laurencemoore8519 For sure bro. Ortiz if he catches Shakur it would end too. Ortiz has power. Haney and Shakur don't. Haney has been able to get this far on his reach/height/ and his hugging capability. Ortiz and him are about the same size, he would beat Haney. I will think this until it actually happens which I doubt it will because once Loma beats Haney, Haney's career is going to take a nosedive.
@@sr2340 the hype around Haney amazes me, hes good at best but a great? What have people been smoking to say that, and if does that to your thought process can i have some. People are comparing him to Mayweather? How? Unless of course they mean his mothers boxing ability. Ortiz impressed me and Im surprised he`s of the radar. I cant wait for the loma fight, i have a feeling he ill show just how good he is and finally make the haters eat their words.
Loma fanboys say “he fought his sparring partner” but his sparring partner beat him😂
Ortiz missed a lot of his punches, Loma landed cleaner and swept the later rounds. Both guys showed great skill, but Ortiz faded as Loma got stronger.
Victor Ortiz? 😂😂 Jamaine Ortiz!
Why did the person who posted this heart like the comment but not change the title?
@@user-vj3rg2jo9b 😂😂😂🤦
@@user-vj3rg2jo9bbecause he doesn't know how 😂
Bruh iwas about to write this comment lmfao
I think they did in purpose so the vid wouldn't get copyrighted
It wasnt Lomas birthday but he was handed a gift.
Not at all. 116-112 Loma. After the 8th it was all Loma.
damn shame isnt it
Love Lomachenko but Ortiz won that fight 7-5 gave lomachenko 9,10,11, and 12 had him down big through 8 rounds 7-1, at worst it was a draw but these scores ufff
I don’t know i give loma 6 rounds i think i should’ve been a draw Ortiz was pouring it on 1-4 loma stepped up in 5 , 6 can go either way , 7-8 Ortiz , 9-12 loma
Nah punched glove all night. Damn fit and strong though. Active as hell, but not enough scoring punches
I had it 7-5 Loma or maybe 6-6
8-4 or 7-5 Loma
@@wushulion HIS FACE SAYS OTHER WISE
I'm not mad at the victor because it was a close fight, in my opinion, but those scores are crazy. 117-111 is outright ridiculous
Anyone who thinks Dev will walk through Loma cuz of this fight, has no idea about boxing at all, Dev does not fight with this kinda volume like what so ever, he’s a single shot guy who’s very defensively minded, yes Dev may win its definitely 50-50, but I strongly see Loma giving hella problems to Haney, and has a strong shot at winning, and if he does I really wouldn’t consider it a huge upset.
Haneys Jab gon be touching loma i guarantee it. Idc what anyone says.
Loma has a lot of Pac-Man in him he fight on a rhythm and dives in with those flurries
Stop it. Manny has terrible foot work and crossed his arms whenever he threw punches. Ever saw his “Ali shuffle”..shit was gross
Jamaine Ortiz
Lomachenko beated an incredible fighter. That Ortiz is has everything to be a champion. What a great fighter. But Loma's tech and exprience were superior
Wow, I'm big Loma fan, but after 8 rounds, I had to score this 6-2 for Ortiz. Loma starts too slow.
Im a big ortiz fan, but loma won, ortize got a lot of jabs that dont connect
dude, I swear to god, this fcking fight was closer than the Haney one wtf. I still can't believe Loma didn't win
What are you talking about. Haney looked like he hadn't even been in a fight as always😂 did you see Loma face.
What are you talking about. Haney looked like he hadn't even been in a fight as always😂 did you see Loma face.
Go rewatch the Loma vs Teo fight and you’ll see Teo did nothing for those belts.
Oh man. You still crying after all this time. Go see a shrink!
He beat Loma 8-4
@@titodonis4455 man fuck no
@@titodonis4455ust like ortiz here i have him 8-4 in ortiz favor i had loma winning the third round and 10,11,12
Wtf loma literally did nothing for 6 rounds then lost the championship rounds teo earned his W
got 7-5 loma. if ortiz didn't gas out in later rounds he could have won. still think ortiz is very underrated and beats kambosos and 50/50 with haney fight
get off loma's nuts
This was his first 12 round fight
A hall of famer, but I don't know if he's crazy or genius keep fighting in a division with young fighters so much bigger than him...
Lomanın performansını kimse beğenmedi ama bence yanılıyorlar, jamaine ortiz'i göz ardı etmekle,.hızlı, güçlü çok teknik ve tam bir atlet. Bu genç yetenek ortiz, haneyle 'de dövüşse sıkıntı verir benim düşüncem,. Loma ayak manevra ve tecrübesiyle aldı maçı az farkla
Loma outboxed him hands down
@@EvilDead_Editzbruh that’s my thing haney fought like this but attacked the body more & I remember when the fight first happened people were saying ortiz got robbed 7-5 Ortiz but when it’s haney it’s Loma got robbed I had it 7-5 haney
It is crazy. I am huge Loma fan, but maybe two rounds difference for Loma.
Nice and tight match anyway 😊
Loma was down 6-2 at the end of 8.
I had Ortiz winning.
very good Fight, was well impressed with Jermaine Ortiz, very close Fight & tbh there wasn't that many points in it 117/111 & 116/112 115/113 was more like it but there was a few Swing Rounds, he's got a decent future has Ortiz.
Reminds me of the PAC fight where he landed a lot of punches on the arms and shoulders of Mayweather so ppl thought he won. 😂 but I will say he showed up and showed out tho. I like this kid
I believe that’s Jamaine Ortiz, not Victor as the title says.
Haney is in some trouble
Those comentators ,Loma landing 4 combinations (talking some other shitt)Ortiz landing Shot in Loma Gloves -very good Shot from Ortiz.
Loma Always get disrespect from Them
couldnt listen tot those commentators!! terrible
Bradley and Andre ward are undercover loma haters… did the same thing during the Lopez fight
Ese Ortiz es muy bueno , digno rival , no veo gente estúpida diciendo que es un ídolo solo por soportar 12 raunds con Lomachenko como si hacen los nopales con su Chihuahua cruz y eso que Ortiz si dió muestra de mejores habilidades defensivas y ofensivas..la calidad de Ortiz le da mas méritos a la victoria de loma
Si en el boxeo profesional correr se castiga y los rounds se puntuan uno a uno a mi me sale que Lomachenko perdio.
@@jose1024tala y como puede perder el que dió los mejores golpes ? El que busco la pelea fue loma , tirar muchos golpes no es sinónimo de ganar , es pegar con precisión como lo hizo loma , Ortiz gran rival
Que resista eres
Para ser honesto Loma no se vio nada impresionante, Ortiz se vio mejor y fue le que buscaba la pelea a cada rato yendo hacia adelante.
I wish loma would utilize a side step to thwart right with counter right hook to follow when he gets jabbed so much like this
I don't understand Loma , you got the guy hurt in the 9th round stay on him. He let Ortiz catch a breather .
Loma doesn't really like to KO people. If it comes it comes, other than that he always respects who he goes in there against. Look how he backs off with Commey and lets Commey finish the fight.
The woman commentating the fight was dickriding Ortiz so bad man 😂😂
Ortiz was just throwing a bunch of punches that didn’t land
Ortiz , good job fantastic dgo cut
Stevenson should fight Ortiz next. Easy fight
Ortiz did great but got credit for way too many blocked punches or like the hook the landed wrist 1st on Loma causing his black eye a lot of his punches werent landing clean. lomas were.,.
What a FIGHT!
Never saw Loma give him that belt before. I was of an opinion, having watched the fight several times, that Lomachenko had more effective punches and was just harder to hit than Ortiz, and that Lomachenko won. But seeing him give Ortiz that belt afterwards....
No hate but just imagine Loma coming forward like that fighting tank the fight is not going to last very long in my opinion🤣🤣
Man idk Loma is very slick and he's there one second and the next he's not. He plays a movement game and guys get caught up in that and they focus on what he's gunna do instead of focusing on what t they want/need to do. I love tank and it would make for an interesting fight. With 400 amateur fights under his belt and being on the back end of his prime I think Is catching up with him. Gunna be an interesting fight vs the weight bully Devin haney.
He won't fight Loma cause Ryan will destroy his career in April.
@Sweet Science Ph LMFAO This idiot really thinks Ryan's gonna do sum 😂
Just imagine if tank actually found his nuts to step in the ring with loma. Instead of coming with every excuse not to fight him😂. Let me guess he’s waiting till loma turns 40 using that mayweather blue print.
@@nightryder16 blocking punches with your face does not equal slick. Tank is levels above loma, Shakur is levels above loma, Haney is levels above loma. Hell, I'd may even pick clowns like Ryan Garcia and Rollie to beat loma.
The people calling this fight were very pro-Ortiz. Loma wasn't getting caught as much as Ortiz.
Lomachenko was not out over a year these announcers are bias af
He was a long az time stop it. Don’t act like he hasn’t fought since last December 11th
@@youtubedeletesmychannels2329 10 months off is the average time for any fighter these days stfu. Usyk came back fought Joshua Spence was out over a year twice in his career came back and beat champions wtf are you talking about? Go watch golf
@@hiramnozall2245 usyk beat a guy he already dominated. Spence is younger. Congratulations you don’t know boxing. Maybe you should take your own advice or watch ping pong
@@youtubedeletesmychannels2329 so what? So Floyd Mayweather was old or let talk about George Forman… never mind you just proved you know absolutely nothing about boxing and to blame it on age for a so called elite just proved it I came name so many boxers way older that came back after real lay offs that came back but you are obviously a low level casual so I won’t waste my time🤣🤣🤣🤣 you do know Lomachenko and Spence are 2 years apart right?🤣🤡
@@hiramnozall2245 so spence is? YOUNGER you 🤡 cringe pewdiepie 9 year old fan. Wtf do you know🤣🤣🤣 Loma BEEN out for damn near a YEAR. A year of INACTIVITY you lil 9 year old kid
damn loma is a really small lightweight
Well, I watched the fight and yeah that woman is clueless! But still i can't see how people think Ortiz won this fight, I didnt see him land a single power punch to rock Loma once, he definitely made him work hard to hit him, but ultimately Ortiz could not land the big shots. Loma landed plenty.
Also Ortiz was letting his guard down- literally as you will notice and at least twice Loma timed him beautifully and hit him hard and fast with a combination. Ortiz is a great young boxer, he'll be back and better next time. Great fight.
Jamaine ortiz did better than Haney
If lomochenko would have fought first few rounds he could have beaten teo Lopez he started it late 5 rounds maybe
Yeah but he didn’t so he lost
I watching this fight afer a couple of months. And what I noticed that Ortiz had been in absolutely crazy shape that time. He was confident and very active during all the fight. Honestly i don't think Haney can do the same things in the ring as Ortiz did with Loma. From what i saw after many Haney's fights, that he's slow and move not that fast like Ortiz did it. Maybe, Jamaine was more difficult test for Lom that Haney suppose to be
I observe the same. I guess most do. Haney is flat footed.
And Ortiz is underrated.
@@davidguardado8282 we'll see, I'm sure Haney will bring all his best for Loma, but once again it's not likely that he can bring more problems to loma than Ortiz
@@davidguardado8282 Haney it's just a different type of fighters and most of the fans don't understand it
Ortiz would def give problems to Haney.
Loma’s preparation for Haney was this beast. Haney’s preparation for Loma was Kambosos 😅😅😅😅
Man, Haney will be exposed worse than Lacy did vs Calzaghe, Joshua vs Usyk and Wilder vs Fury. He will get beat badly before he’s KO’d cold.
I don.t see this version loma beating haney he's just not there anymore
Great chess match but Ortiz won!!! And I’m a big Loma fan:-(
Haney isn’t going to have a problem…
Watch it again with the sound off, you’ll score it different
@@mrjamesgrimes haha, I never dig the commentary of these fights so I’m not paying attention anyway. I guess I’m saying Loma has to do more to win over Haney regardless of the winner of this one. I could be a bad judge but I saw what I saw here…
They did Ortiz dirty
very dirty
Quayshawn go back to the ldbc and shut up
😅 I'm like when did lomachenko fight Victor Ortiz
I don’t think it was unanimous more like a majority decision. Loma has to be better than that against Haney. He has good defense but his age worries me. Loma has defense that Haney may not have seen before. But if Haney can ruff up Loma then he may possibly win. I think the way to beat Loma is rough him up and be aggressive
No way that was 117- 111. No way
That’s totally criminal…
I know how Loma can get the knockout power!...
Train arm wrestling with Devon laratt
Shoulder and pull excerpts would obviously shine with his body type.
Who is that woman commentator? She talked all the way through and said NOTHING the entire time. Most annoying commentary I've ever heard on a fight. Anyone know who she is so I can avoid fights she's calling?
Thought this one was a draw or atleast a SD
One person can't think a fight was a SD
I can't believe how hard it was for Ortiz to catch Loma with him standing right in front of him almost the entire fight.
It’s different when you in there
@@TreyLopez482 Loma is just like vapor. His footwork and movement is like he knows what Ortiz was going to do.
It looked like he caught him a ton…
What the HELL YALL BE WATCHING? HE BRuised Loma eye the first round. Damn yall kills me
@@observeandanalyze4591it was his bicep that did that. He hooked his head
I think you could make a better case for ortiz beating Loma than Haney. Both close fights that could have easily been draws but Loma punished haney more than he did Ortiz.
Both of those men put on a show, its a shame only won can win. Folks gonna think twice before scheduling Ortiz.
Very impressive performance by these two
🔥🔥🔥
Ortiz aint no bigger than Haney but loma complains Haney a heavyweight 😂😂😂😂 and I still think lopez won
Loma made a joke, clown. He never complained.
"Loma too old and too small" - Devin Haney, 2020.
Does not fit your uneducated black clown narrative.
Okay… good for you
@@DamnDealDone why you clowns always bring up race when someone slides against loma ? Foh
judges really hate this dude SADGE
Ortiz let this fight slip between his hands . Started off strong , let loma come back to end the fight . 117-111 is bs though . Much closer fight than that
Feels like they're grading Ortiz on a curve. Ortiz' head snapped back by punches on the regular, seems like easily more than a dozen times. Loma's landing ALL the clean combinations. Ortiz missing power shots more than he's landing. Ortiz lands one shot and they are like "he's stealing the round" Loma absolutely dominated round 11, they're like "the judges have a tough task" WTF? Good fight, but Loma all day.
Not really😂Ortiz was winning till round 7 he was using the jab and his feet perfectly confusing loma😂tbh I think Loma lost easily 10 rounds
@@jthizzle5714 Not a single professional pundit, commentator, pro boxer, or anyone in Ortiz camp thinks Ortiz won. Ortiz lost by a large margin.
@@jthizzle5714 You're on drugs.
@@DamnDealDone large margin lol lay off the crack Ortiz won 🤡🤡
@@andrerandall7873 you must have a very low intelligence level to think that. You think missing and having your punches blocked is winning? That's pretty dumb. Watch a punch count, Ortiz won three rounds max. Even Ortiz doesn't think he won. Only dumb black clowns that pretend to be boxing fans do.
Loma +196 next month. Easy 💰💰💰💰
Ray Donovan was in the audience.
Whos here because teo vs ortiz is feb 8th!!!!
The kids can't stop the straight left
Why does it say Victor Ortiz. It's Jamaine
Whoever thinks ortiz won is delusional
Lomachenko gave the belt to Ortiz because he, Lomachenko knows Ortiz WON that Fight!! In My Humble Opinion.
Rewatch it slower playback speed if you think Ortiz was landing those speedy combinations you’re delusional even that jab was hitting nothing but glove lol
Did not like the commentator one bit pravo to loma and Ortiz!!!
I’d say Jamaine Ortiz did a lot better against Loma than Haney did that’s for sure. He definitely hurt Loma more
Vasya won handily. I scored it 116-112 for Lomachenko. Yank commentators seem not to be aware of what is a scoring shot and what is not. That said, creditable effort by Ortiz. 👏
Correct the Ortiz name... is Jamaine Ortiz, NOT Victor....
18:29 unprofessional as hell😂😂😂
Jamel drinking on the job lol.
On the rewatch Loma looked a lot better than I thought
They want Ortiz next for teofimo Lopez.
I saw it 7/5 for Loma