The number of steps between him coming up with the idea to publish the book is not a small amount. And at no point was he like, "Maybe I shouldn't publish this."
@@dochappy26 Even if it was several layers of publishing company, editors, management, etc. of all lily-white motherfuckers, SOMEBODY should've aborted this very not good idea at some point. Not even just his professional life, but nobody in his *personal* life saw what he was doing and gave him the talk.
@@foreignfridaysIt's his own publishing company. There might not have been anybody else in the room. I listened to a review from someone who read it and they said it read like a mental breakdown.
I mean his last self-publish sold 0 copies. The dude went to the outrage well for fame like so many do. I want to hear from the folks who saw this fool sitting on their commuter bus for months and if anyone confronted him.
I just got flashbacks to all the cringey “Melon is black” jokes from Fantano’s comment sections 💀 I love his videos but I need to just stop looking at UA-cam comments all together
@@Cdr2002 yea his comment section is trash. That kind of stuff is especially stupid though considering how much emphasis he puts on the fact that he isn't black and he doesn't really have the right to speak on certain things.
Every time I want to renounce my whiteness, like that is even possible, I remember all the privilege that has kept me mostly okay despite being completely fucked for more than a decade (White disabled people can never be "white" enough for the dominant culture.).
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." - Lyndon B. Johnson
On the other hand Johnson was a reliable member of the Southern bloc, helping to stonewall civil rights legislation. As [biographer Robert] Caro recalls, Johnson spent the late 1940s railing against the "hordes of barbaric yellow dwarves" in East Asia. Buying into the stereotype that blacks were afraid of snakes, he'd drive to gas stations with a snake in his trunk and try to trick black attendants into opening the trunk. Once, the stunt nearly ended with him being beaten with a tire iron.
"If you can convince the lowest black man he's better than the best white man, he won't notice you're convincing him to vote for Republicans who hate him."
So, they can’t listen to authentic black experiences and develop empathy for us and instead have to resort to blackface to attempt to understand our experiences? Literally do a deep introspective dive. That’s all it takes to develop empathy. Good gosh
Honestly I had this realisation when getting into a heated argument with my TURKISH friend about how "forced diversity" in games is a bullshit dog whistle that just covers for racism. He was adamant that all these angry white gamer bros are not racist. He then went on to question and undermine every example I gave of the ongoing effects of racism. It was sad as well as super eye opening.
I'll never understand that. I grew up in central Europe, so, White Supremacy Central basically and even I managed to get out of the conservative and racist programming early on without doing weirdo shit like this and I'm not particularly smart, I think my advantage just was that the mainstream never quite managed to beat the empathy out of me. I cannot fathom how these people think pretending to be black is somehow the thing that'll help them understand marginalized people better...
iin eurocentric culture, its EXTREMELY taboo to even remotely humanize anyone who isnt a well off eurocentric. its basically against the law in this culture to allow yourself to listen to a single word coming from anyone who isnt well off and preferably a european loyalist.
"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection." - Letter from Birmingham Jail (ext) By Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., 16 April 1963
To the point of Italians, i find it really funny cause since my grandmother was norther Italian and my grandfather was southern, they were considered a "mixed" couple
@@seeleunit2000 I mean from my understand it’s just a way of calling them “not a real Italian” because southern Italy and northern Italy have different cultures and climates. Granted this would’ve been around 80 years ago so times do change.
This is facts. To this day Calabrese and Milanese rarely sit at the same table. The warring Italian peninsula city states were happening at the same time as the US civil war. Also in line with the surge of southern Italian immigrants to the Americas. It is also why NYC-PHI corridor Italians all sound phonetically different as they arrived before Italian public school language standardization; thus capicola is pronounced gabagool etc.
I'm a black Caribbean dude from NYC, and being honest, I have passed older Italian people, and multiple times had to stop and make sure this older person I just passed wasn't one of my relatives before I realized "Oh false alarm, not my grand uncle, just a random old Italian individual." LMAO
I was raised by two of the Whitest Liberals to ever White Liberal. My dad is Irish. My mom is Italian. They had a copy of Black Like Me on their main bookshelf when I was a kid. You and FD calling out people like them is so. f**king. satisfying.
We’re not human to them so they dress up as us to understand how their people treat us and behave around and towards us instead of developing empathy? 🤨😑
This is true. I’m a white dude married into a black family, born into poverty and climbing out. Poor folk don’t see a difference. They know there are races but they don’t care. Wealthy white folk actually think black people are children or animals. They think black folk are so incapable that having expectations is cruel. How could you expect them to live normally? It’s such an odd experience.
My school district was trying to adopt a new curriculum this year and there was a nonzero chance that we were going to have to adopt Life of Pi to replace the books written by actual Indian authors to fit both my school's specific requirements and the district's. We dodged it but fucking hell the publishing industry needs to be completely redone.
@@lulucool45 the "we spent way too much money on these new curriculum plans so we're going to make you pick from the menu" pushing up against the "you are teaching international materials in translation". I suppose translation from french canadian to english counts
11:50 I'm sure you've both read the David Roediger and Noel Ignatiev books, but, to elaborate, Italian-Americans became white by assimilating into whiteness -- this meant giving up their customs, their language, etc., and also becoming complicit in the US racial hierarchy. Same for Irish-Americans, Polish-Americans, and -Americans. When "Ethnic" Europeans first arrived in the United States, they were slotted into the racial hierarchy somewhere below Anglo-Saxons and above Black and Indigenous people, and would remain there until they assimilated thoroughly into Anglo-American culture. That's why there was such heavy conflict between early Italian-American/Irish-American immigrant communities and African-American communities. Yes they occupied similar spaces as disenfranchised communities, but also, the spicy whites understood the assignment. And that's why anyone who tries the "the Irish/Italians/etc. were also discriminated against, why can't You People be like them/get over it" bit should be treated as unserious and probably racist.
The dark and white Italian separation is a thing. It was also a white Italian = upper class and dark Italian = lower class thing. Northern Italian = white, Southern Italian = Dark. Class stratification.
Ancient Egyptians and colour is one of the most frustrating conversations, because like - Kemet covered millenia. There were Pharaohs that would be called the N word in modern America. Pharaohs that would have been "randomly selected" by the TSA and Pharaohs that could practically run for president. But the vast majority of people living along the Nile since time immemorial would not be seen as white today. Lighter than like, Ethiopia maybe, but pretty unquestionably black.
My father's lived experience as an Egyptian _in this century_ includes plenty of discrimination because of his darker skin, it makes me very sad to see him still trying to pass himself as white as possible as a result of it.
If it was solely aimed at convincing white racists that yes, this stuff _really_ goes on, I could understand it. But it seems like it was just for the author's ego.
Had a white friend tell me about this guy (I do my best to be as offline as possible). I didn't realize he PUBLISHED A BOOK. I'm so tired y'all, I'm gonna continue to be more off the internet 😅
Yo I knew Picasso got his flow from Africa but I figured he must have acknowledged it because it is so obvious from looking at his Desmoiselles dAvignon and everybody knows he did but I just looked it up and bro really tried to pass that shit off as 100% his idea
7:44 One of my professors was a Tanzanian man. He'd gone to the US to get his Master's (this was New England, maybe the 70s or 80s I believe?) and told us about how a young white boy came up to him one time and rubbed at his skin trying to wipe off his melanin 😭
1:14 OMFG!!! YES!!! PICASSO is from Málaga, Andalucía in the south of Spain, and his art style was inspired by the Afro-Arabian jazz culture. Little hidden gem I'm glad FD picked up on 😘
There actually was a comedy with this premise called Soul Man, which Mindy Kaling's brother then plagiarized to write a book about going through med school in blackface.
@@foreignfridays Well, the premise of the 1986 movie is that a white guy attends Harvard Law in blackface to take advantage of a scholarship for Black students. I'm not saying Vijay plagiarized so much as I'm saying he did the exact same thing to get into med school.
Saying that being racist is a bonding experience for white people does line up with my experience of being a white presenting person. I can't tell the how many times I got what I call the white guy test (especially in the military), where at some point a white dude either throws out the N-word to see my reaction or is just so blatantly racist to see my reaction. One time a former friend, while we just hanging out at his house playing video games just started to play my first racism bingo and was flabbergasted when I pushed back, probably the most blatantly racist experience for me (well outside of unsolicited advice when dating a woman of color, anyway).
Crazy I had an experience with a white dude I used to be friends with he decided to showed me some old racist music which is just white dudes singing about killing, lynching, and harming black people. I was a token back then and wanted everyone to like me it didn't hit me until years later that he was actually testing the waters dudes a full blown conservative conspiracy theorist now he also has half black children it's weird man.
He literally said he will not post pics of himself to everyone that asks. He refuses to. Which means he likely looked like the racist white dude on Black White.
Black White is wild. I was introduced to it by Jarvis Johnson and Jordan's watchthrough. The channel they watched it on was called black-white-itallian
Like I BET The reason of doing this is that he wanted a "real authentic" look at racism and felt that if you interview black people that it may be dramatized or some shit
Of course that's the reason. Racists, by definition, distrust anyone who isn't like them. The only way they'll listen to stories of racism is if the stories come from someone _just like them._
At 7:15 - 7:20, I am a vet. And on the first night of basic training we picked the beds we slept in. All of us black folk, we all ended up picking the same corner and we we're in that corner for the first week and until we were forcibly separated (nefarious if you ask me). We did not plan this cause this was at like 2am at this point!! So yes, I agree with this HEAVILY!!😆 Edit: Still watching the video, but 7:45 I met a guy from Louisiana who we were his first black people that he seen. Dope dude though, cool and hella funny.
12:00 Also Italy is STILL like this to an extent that the US isn't: in my personal life I have heard northern Italians call southern Italians "basically Africans" and not consider any of the implications of that statement.
Yup, afaik to this day, southern Italians get this treatment often. Funny story but I'm a black Caribbean man from NYC and I've had to stop and double check multiple times that a random Italian was not in fact my grand uncle (who is what we would call "high yellow" light skinned with short, loose curly hair).
The author literally centered himself in every way imaginable and is now profiting from it. Dude could have watched some UA-cam videos if this was really about learning.
Reminder that Italians, Irish, Polish, Czechs, all the Eastern Europeans got promoted to "honorary, but not WASP whiteness" so they could keep outnumbering Blacks and Hispanics.
11:40 so my grandpa is first generation Italian American and he grew up in Omaha Nebraska (~1960’s). He would tell me stories about how when he was a young man he wasn’t allowed to use the public pool because his skin was too dark and about the discrimination the Italian community felt from the police and WASPs. I remember him showing me a video about the largest mass lynching in US history was against Italians in Louisiana (don’t know if it’s accurate but it def happened). Now all that can be true, but it’s also true that Italian Americans can be some of the most racist people out there. His mother was southern Italian and his family didn’t want him marrying her because of her dark skin and her family didn’t want her to marry him because “he was French” (re: northern Italian close the the French border 😂). And growing up in a state with basically no Italian American community I have certainly felt some degree of alienation from my peers growing up because of these cultural differences. But at the end of the day I don’t confuse that with systemic racism, when I get pulled over by the police they see a white woman (actually probably a man cause I’m trans but that’s a whole other situation😂) and I’m treated as such by them. But a lot of other young Italian Americans don’t understand this or don’t want to. Anyways thanks for reading my rambling thoughts!
The author of Black Like Me was very open to listening to black voices and did what he did because he knew white people would ignore black people but listen to another white person. In the epilogue he talks of how he would be invited to talk with city leaders who would ask him how they could speak with the blacks people in their cities, and he would tell them “Stop talking to me, invite the leaders of the black community and talk with them.”
Yes, I remember reading Black Like Me. I may even have seen the movie but it was as mentioned the premise was to get up close and personal with racism by becoming “black”. It was a popular book when I was going to school in the 70’s.
This reminds me of when I’ve seen able-bodied people get school assignments where they have to spend a day blindfolded to simulated being blind or sit in a wheelchair everywhere they go. The assignment is meant to create empathy via “walking a mile in my shoes” or something. The problem is, in the back of their minds, just like with this white cosplayer, they know they’ll get to go back to their usual lives once their little experiment is done. I can’t fully understand the experience of a black person because, even if was able to play pretend for a bit, I know when it’s over I’ll go back to being my white as hell self. That’s way different than living that experience 100% of the time from birth. Best I can do is listen and try my best to understand.
I mean in my mind it would always linger that I could definitely be blinded or end up in a wheelchair one day. No one suddenly becomes a different race. Many people suddenly become disabled. At the same time I would never assign a project like this for empathy purposes but rather in the context of thinking about the design of our communal spaces. Like research accessibly including interviews and books by disabled people. Go around campus and make note of all the things you think might be a barrier and what is fine. Then try the things you think are fine and are not fine as a test of your assessments. Research strategies disabled people use to get around the barriers you hit. Try them yourself. Evaluate the efficacy of the solutions you thought of. It isn’t so much about teaching empathy as it is about teaching how there are entire worlds out there of people who have to deal with a lot of stuff you don’t even think about every day. How living every day in these experiences makes them experts in a way that cannot quite be recreated through study. Though I suppose that if you consider a lack of empathy to be a failure of both imagination and humility…. That would be a lesson that would teach empathy after all. I think the curiosity of wanting to really know a community in a personal way is a great starting place for making the world a better place and even for empathy. It just needs to be directed in a healthy way and not left to the egos of certain people or you get stuff like this book.
Obviously if a company sets out to think about produce design they want to include disabled people in their design team and as their testers. But for school I would like to not have a class swarm the handful of disabled people on campus to help them test their list of barriers. Interviews of classmates and community partners who volunteer would are one thing. “Follow me around campus and try thing I think might be hard for you “ is another thing completely. It would be fine to get a willing disabled participant rather to test than to just interview. But there is a fine line to walk between collaboration and able bodied people using disabled people as tools for their personal growth.
Most Egyptians I've met don't really identify as Arab. They've generally used "North African" as a label, with one or two using "MENA" (Middle East[ern] and North Africa[n]; there's also the alternative SWANA or South-West Asia[n] and North Africa[n]). Granted this is anecdotal and not a huge sample size (probably like 15 people)
this is another result of the systemic anti-black discrimination of colonization, egyptians/arabs/pale north africans lobbied successfully to have themselves included in the "whilte" rolls
@@obansrinathan thanks for the counter example! (genuinely). Goes to show opinions are varied. To add context to my anecdotes, most Egyptians I've met have been in-person in South Africa, so they may have been more likely to identify as African, what with being in another African country. I hadn't considered that aspect before
As an Egyptian, I and most people I know identify as Arab. Although i've seen many people online who don't. From a lineage perspective most Egyptians don't stem from arab tribes but generally the modern mainstream definition of an Arab is someone who's first language is Arabic. Many countries that are now arab countries didnt originally have arabic as it's first language. But we all have a similar shared experience because of the shared language and culture and religion. Now that doesn't mean that I don't also identify as African/ north east african . I also use middle eastern.
To preface, I’m a good leftist who’s read his Rodney and Fanon, but an album that may or may not be my favorite (it changes) is Talking Heads’ ‘Remain in Light’ which is heavily influenced by African music. They borrowed from black music throughout their existence, ‘77 and More Songs about Buildings and Food were art punk that was heavily influenced by funk, and from Fear of Music through Speaking in Tongues they borrowed heavily from African music. In their concert film Stop Making Sense the musicians outside of the core band were all black. I would be really interested in your take on Talking Heads. Did they respectfully incorporate black influences, or did they culturally appropriate black music?
Talking heads is one of my favourite post punk bands so i’d definitely need to sit back on that to think of it cause i’m inclined to say no but idk if thats just cause i like them lol
@@foreignfridays I would LOVE a deep dive on the subject. I have always been so taken w/ TH/DB music--as a musician--that I've rarely attended to lyrics, and I know little about the artists. Side note: When I saw him live in the 90s, during his tour for his self-titled solo recording, DB explained that "And She Was" was inspired by his neighbor, who came by while enjoying the effects of a hallucinogen. At that moment, I was doing the same. So I do know the lyrics to that tune! LOL. ALL these years later, my band is learning to play it. Thanks for all you do. Be well.
Here in germany, we have a reporter that did a whole 'documentstion'. He did black face and showed how racist everyone else is. Günter Wallraff - schwarz auf weiß (black on white) You can see in the trailer, hows he's getting black faced, while a real black man is watching. It's surreal. The man was applauded for his film. Some voices of concern were raised, but he's still kicking and even has his own show. Günter Wallraff is known for his 'costumes'. He was a 'hobo', a 'turkish migrant' and he infiltrated a right wing tabloid newspaper (Bild). The last one was the only good idea he had.
"Some of their uncles start to act different." Perfectly said. Got family members like that. And telling em off or shaming them for it doesn't do shit most of the time. They see anyone who pushes back against their racism as delusional. Anyways, I'm sure y'all knew all that. Gotta engage for the youtube gods.
I will preface this by saying that I am white, but as far as I am aware the one in the 60’s actually did improve race relations. At that time people were to scared to even be in the same room as a black person, so sadly a white person pretending to be black was the closest they could get to actually learning about the black experience. Doing it nowadays though is genuinely insane.
Beautiful smile my man. From one person with a gap to the next! Sometimes I get insecure about mine, then I’m reminded by others with the same strong smile. ❤
If anything this does wonders to prove there is no one to one experience that simulates the constant surveillance black people are under regarding systemic racism. There may be similar experiences from marginalized peoples that come close to it but its not, nor will it ever be a one to one comparison. Maybe a asian woman can relate to a aspect of being othered the way a black woman can. A native person can relate to a certain aspect of the african american experience of being separated from their heritage despite hailing from different cultures. But its never quite the same. Empathy goes a long way but it will always be a exercise in imagination, hypotheticals and assumptions because these life experiences are so fundamentally different.
That's what makes this even worse in my opinion! There are so many forms of oppression and discrimination many people experience, and he is so out of touch with that reality he thought he had no choice but to put on blackface. He can't talk to anyone he knows and trusts about what it's like to be judged for your existence!?
Not saying that ancient Egyptians were "white" but from the way they wrote about the dark skin of Nubians, and the way they depicted themselves in their art, the average complexion of ancient Egyptians was likey a bronze hue. Key word there is average though, it was a very diverse society as a result of it being a cosmopolitan society at the confluence of two continents. Also keep in mind ancient Egypt only got its start about 5000 years ago, modern humans have been on Earth for about 200,000 years. There had been nore than enough time for modern complexions to have mutated onto the scene and for people to have made many many waves of migration. Its likely that many of the people who would form ancient Egyptian society migrated from other parts of Africa, but its just as likely that as many or more came from Middle Eastern regions back into Africa. But yk it really shouldnt matter what "race" an ancient society was, especially when that concept didn't exist then, and we are trying to dismantle that concept today
Eddie Murphy did "White Like Me" on SNL spoofing that Black Like Me book. "What are you doing?!" - "Why, I'm paying for this newspaper, my good man." - "Go on, take it. There's nobody else in here."
Very interesting video. I really enjoyed 2 of my favorite long form UA-camrs chopping it up. I was born in the 50s, I read the "Black Like Me " book and saw the movie when it came out as well as a research paper in college on it and it's aftermath. The book is an account of being Black in 1959 in New Orleans. The author was from Texas, who had his skin altered by a mix of 1959 drugs and sunlamp treatments, suffered many physical attacks while "cosplaying" being Black and afterwards from the white backlash when the book came out. He had to move to México from Texas for a while to get away. He was on the front lines during the civil rights movement. Keep up the great work
12:53 he looks like he tanned a bit during a camping trip, like my south german mom's skin turns that shade during summer, if it is actually sunny for more then a day or two.
My cousin went to a "camp" to learn about American history where they, I shit you not, woke them up to at like 2 am to march them through the fields while calling them slurs to represent "how bad slavery was". She was six, lmao. She repressed that shit so hard that we had to verify that it was true based on a journal entry from school we found that she had to write for homework.
I saw another video about this from this from someone I’m subscribed to and I decided to watch this first to complete the experience of seeing this talked about by people who’s opinions and commentary I value
11:25 It wasn't until recently that I saw pictures of Johnny Cash's first wife, Vivian and she's dark-skinned. Turns out she was Sicilian which didn't read in the casting for Walk the Line.
It's worth noting that a lot of dark Italians that were slaves. North African corsairs used to regularly abduct people from the south coasts of Europe and put them in bonds, and these people were ostracized from Europeans well after the fact. One of my middle names is handed down to us from a Jewish great grandfather from Austria (he married in South Italy) and it literally means "Slave" so he was likely part of that group. Also the Mediterranean parts of Europe have a lot more cultural crossover with Africa in general, which is why Moores/Moriscos can be Black and others resemble Middle Eastern and Berbers people, of whom my patrilineal side is descended. A big part of the Inquisitions in Europe were not to hunt witches or even other Christians but originally founded to basically do a Proto-Holocaust on the Jewish and Muslim peoples of these regions, and some of the most common names in Spain are the names assigned to those who were forcibly converted. I mention all this because much of the playbooks from these events and trends would inform Colonialism later when applied to the wider world, and to always remind that European history is not White History, PoCs have been in Europe as Europeans for about as long as we have recorded history in the continent/peninsula.
My father, incidentally, is the most white supremacist family member in my core family, yet is the only one who is not "white passing" and has been blocked at the US border regularly when trying to do business trips for 'unknown reasons' (he is brown skinned, incidentally his White coworkers got through no problem on the same credentials...strange). My mother is a ginger though, so all of us kids are White but in that way where any Caucasian group thinks we're one of them. Had Arabic actors on tv sets tell me "oh you'd be perfect casting for this role" because they thought I was light skinned Arabic or Iranian
Im Italian, Irish, Moroccan, Lebanese, and Iranian. Theres more bonding the Irish and Lebanese , or Italian Morrocon, and Iranian, all share more than you think. Itlaians and Irish were both conquered by Germans and both subscribed to Catholic doctrine. Irish culture before Anglo-Saxon colonization was more similiar to african cultures than german culture. people really forget Italy is a hop and a skip across the pond from africa. The Etruscans were african transplants their language dosent corelate to european language families. the etruscans were the teachers of the romans and inspired most of their society. Southern Italians are treated like second class citizens because we were "closer to Africans". Half the Roman Empire was black, and London was built by an African Empreror.
The 'dark Italians' thing was weird news for me. As a kid I always wondered if my dad was black, or what, because I never saw anyone else that looked like him, and his skin is darker than most black people's. I'm white af though.
The Neolithic culture of Egypt began with populations migrating from the Near East, as shown by archaeological and genetic data. Egyptians are brown because of the same reasons the rest of us in the Middle East are: adaptation for periodic tanning. Of course, over the millennia populations of the Mediterranean, the Levant and North Africa mixed. But as far as origins go, if we are discussing Egyptian culture post the Paleolithic, it was established by immigrants. There is Paleolithic archaeology in Egypt as well, and no, white skin hadn't developed yet- the adaptation only appears after 10-9 k years during the Neolithic.
there was also Soul Sister: The Story of a White Woman Who Turned Herself Black and Went to Live and Work in Harlem and Mississippi by Grace Halsell. i think that was from the 60s
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Black. White. won a primetime emmy. For "Outstanding Makeup for a Series". Thats emmy award winning blackface. You can't make this shit up 😂
They really gave that thing an emmy? We’re so cooked.
Not just award winning blackface, but also the makeup artists went on to work on the marvel movies lol
I remember that show, I’m surprised
I came to the comments to say just this!😂
"Emmy award-winning blackface" is one of those phrases that changes a person when they hear it. That combination of words should not exist.
The number of steps between him coming up with the idea to publish the book is not a small amount. And at no point was he like, "Maybe I shouldn't publish this."
fam like what publishing company and or team did he have? nobody in the room spoke up?!
Tell me you don’t have black folks working for your company without telling me you don’t have black folks working for your company…
@@dochappy26 Even if it was several layers of publishing company, editors, management, etc. of all lily-white motherfuckers, SOMEBODY should've aborted this very not good idea at some point. Not even just his professional life, but nobody in his *personal* life saw what he was doing and gave him the talk.
@@foreignfridaysIt's his own publishing company. There might not have been anybody else in the room. I listened to a review from someone who read it and they said it read like a mental breakdown.
I mean his last self-publish sold 0 copies. The dude went to the outrage well for fame like so many do. I want to hear from the folks who saw this fool sitting on their commuter bus for months and if anyone confronted him.
Oh my God he did Black Like Me in 2024. A social experiment that was controversial in THE JIM CROW ERA
A true glutton for pain
at least with black like me the author did actually talk to Black people before going through with it.
The mind of the white moderate is truly an enigma.
@@daintycakedstill terrible
I was looking for this comment from the moment I saw the thumbnail. There was absolutely no reason to redo the experiment.
"Anthony Fantano could pull off being black better than Shaun King" is one of the meanest things I've ever heard said about Shaun King lmao
I just got flashbacks to all the cringey “Melon is black” jokes from Fantano’s comment sections 💀
I love his videos but I need to just stop looking at UA-cam comments all together
@@Cdr2002 yea his comment section is trash. That kind of stuff is especially stupid though considering how much emphasis he puts on the fact that he isn't black and he doesn't really have the right to speak on certain things.
@@Haitch_Kay yeah it’s always frustrating when people who call themselves fans of a creator ignore the very things those creators try to preach out to
@@Cdr2002real
I'm white and the privilege is nice and all, but god damn it's getting embarrassing in here 😅
Lmaoooooo its rough out here for a pimp
Every time I want to renounce my whiteness, like that is even possible, I remember all the privilege that has kept me mostly okay despite being completely fucked for more than a decade (White disabled people can never be "white" enough for the dominant culture.).
😂😂😂😂
Damn, another one of my comments was deleted. A bot at UA-cam must hate me!
The second-hand embarrassment is intense
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
- Lyndon B. Johnson
On the other hand Johnson was a reliable member of the Southern bloc, helping to stonewall civil rights legislation. As [biographer Robert] Caro recalls, Johnson spent the late 1940s railing against the "hordes of barbaric yellow dwarves" in East Asia. Buying into the stereotype that blacks were afraid of snakes, he'd drive to gas stations with a snake in his trunk and try to trick black attendants into opening the trunk. Once, the stunt nearly ended with him being beaten with a tire iron.
@@Tymbus isn't it so ironic, he got it but was a part of it
@@Pete_xp Yes, sadly so
Too bad Mr. Johnson didn’t say “colored man” 🥴
"If you can convince the lowest black man he's better than the best white man, he won't notice you're convincing him to vote for Republicans who hate him."
The caucasity indeed
if its one thing they got, its caucasity
This was my reaction. THE CAUCASITY
So, they can’t listen to authentic black experiences and develop empathy for us and instead have to resort to blackface to attempt to understand our experiences?
Literally do a deep introspective dive. That’s all it takes to develop empathy. Good gosh
**groans in afropessimism**
Honestly I had this realisation when getting into a heated argument with my TURKISH friend about how "forced diversity" in games is a bullshit dog whistle that just covers for racism. He was adamant that all these angry white gamer bros are not racist. He then went on to question and undermine every example I gave of the ongoing effects of racism. It was sad as well as super eye opening.
I'll never understand that. I grew up in central Europe, so, White Supremacy Central basically and even I managed to get out of the conservative and racist programming early on without doing weirdo shit like this and I'm not particularly smart, I think my advantage just was that the mainstream never quite managed to beat the empathy out of me. I cannot fathom how these people think pretending to be black is somehow the thing that'll help them understand marginalized people better...
iin eurocentric culture, its EXTREMELY taboo to even remotely humanize anyone who isnt a well off eurocentric. its basically against the law in this culture to allow yourself to listen to a single word coming from anyone who isnt well off and preferably a european loyalist.
Sam can't center himself if he just interviews Black people.
"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."
Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
- Letter from Birmingham Jail (ext)
By Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr., 16 April 1963
'Moderates' are just conservatives.
I paraphrased some of MLK's words to one of my YT doctors and she stopped talking to me outright. And she considered herself an ally.
My grandparents went through that transition as Italians from “not white” to “white” and it seems like it was a real head trip for them.
4:21 _Black. White._ didn't just feature blackface! It featured _Emmy award winning_ blackface! 💀💀💀
"Emmy award-winning blackface" is a sentence I knew deep down I'd see eventually but I'm still shocked to see.
I remember Jarvis Johnson and Jordan Adika reacting to this show, it was craaaazzzyyy 😭 Especially the White girl in the Black slam poetry group
They are not learning from their mistakes of the past, fucking aye we are evolving backwards.
@@izzaanimates9041 That's the only way I could stomach it
Canadians stop doing blackface challenge impossible.
Lol legit Trudeau is a Blackface mascot of Canada
@@foreignfridays Trudeau, Aubrey, the Toronto Parkdale principal. It's a tradition for them at this point.
@@foreignfridays I thought it was Drake?
Canadian try not to be vile racist challenge
To the point of Italians, i find it really funny cause since my grandmother was norther Italian and my grandfather was southern, they were considered a "mixed" couple
No Fr! My great grandmas southern family didn’t want her marrying my great grandfather cause he “was French” (northern italian)
@@AhegaoEinsteinHold up, Southern Italians think of North Italians as French ?
Now that's something I've never heard of.
@@seeleunit2000 I mean from my understand it’s just a way of calling them “not a real Italian” because southern Italy and northern Italy have different cultures and climates. Granted this would’ve been around 80 years ago so times do change.
This is facts. To this day Calabrese and Milanese rarely sit at the same table. The warring Italian peninsula city states were happening at the same time as the US civil war. Also in line with the surge of southern Italian immigrants to the Americas. It is also why NYC-PHI corridor Italians all sound phonetically different as they arrived before Italian public school language standardization; thus capicola is pronounced gabagool etc.
I'm a black Caribbean dude from NYC, and being honest, I have passed older Italian people, and multiple times had to stop and make sure this older person I just passed wasn't one of my relatives before I realized "Oh false alarm, not my grand uncle, just a random old Italian individual." LMAO
The absolute distrust this implies. "Well I gotta see it myself first to know for sure"
I was raised by two of the Whitest Liberals to ever White Liberal.
My dad is Irish. My mom is Italian.
They had a copy of Black Like Me on their main bookshelf when I was a kid.
You and FD calling out people like them is so. f**king. satisfying.
I love your collabs with signifier its like the two best in the gane coming together
that Unc & Neph combo
We’re not human to them so they dress up as us to understand how their people treat us and behave around and towards us instead of developing empathy? 🤨😑
... Yeah, it's pretty screwed up.
This is true. I’m a white dude married into a black family, born into poverty and climbing out.
Poor folk don’t see a difference. They know there are races but they don’t care.
Wealthy white folk actually think black people are children or animals.
They think black folk are so incapable that having expectations is cruel. How could you expect them to live normally?
It’s such an odd experience.
how does developing empathy helps with this exactly?
@@jeanivanjohnson huh???
@jeanivanjohnson. Please rewrite your question in comprehensible English. Thank you in advance.
My school district was trying to adopt a new curriculum this year and there was a nonzero chance that we were going to have to adopt Life of Pi to replace the books written by actual Indian authors to fit both my school's specific requirements and the district's.
We dodged it but fucking hell the publishing industry needs to be completely redone.
Today I learned Life of Pi was written by a French Canadian
what are those requirements? a racism quota?
@@lulucool45 the "we spent way too much money on these new curriculum plans so we're going to make you pick from the menu" pushing up against the "you are teaching international materials in translation".
I suppose translation from french canadian to english counts
11:50 I'm sure you've both read the David Roediger and Noel Ignatiev books, but, to elaborate, Italian-Americans became white by assimilating into whiteness -- this meant giving up their customs, their language, etc., and also becoming complicit in the US racial hierarchy. Same for Irish-Americans, Polish-Americans, and -Americans.
When "Ethnic" Europeans first arrived in the United States, they were slotted into the racial hierarchy somewhere below Anglo-Saxons and above Black and Indigenous people, and would remain there until they assimilated thoroughly into Anglo-American culture. That's why there was such heavy conflict between early Italian-American/Irish-American immigrant communities and African-American communities. Yes they occupied similar spaces as disenfranchised communities, but also, the spicy whites understood the assignment.
And that's why anyone who tries the "the Irish/Italians/etc. were also discriminated against, why can't You People be like them/get over it" bit should be treated as unserious and probably racist.
Well-stated. 👍🏾
The dark and white Italian separation is a thing. It was also a white Italian = upper class and dark Italian = lower class thing. Northern Italian = white, Southern Italian = Dark. Class stratification.
Ancient Egyptians and colour is one of the most frustrating conversations, because like - Kemet covered millenia. There were Pharaohs that would be called the N word in modern America. Pharaohs that would have been "randomly selected" by the TSA and Pharaohs that could practically run for president. But the vast majority of people living along the Nile since time immemorial would not be seen as white today. Lighter than like, Ethiopia maybe, but pretty unquestionably black.
My father's lived experience as an Egyptian _in this century_ includes plenty of discrimination because of his darker skin, it makes me very sad to see him still trying to pass himself as white as possible as a result of it.
@@demoncorejunior I grew up in Egypt, and I remember how deep the colourism ties into the classism.
There was an Arab migration into North Africa from Asia sometime in ancient history. Migration is human history.
This made it onto booktube and he was ripped to shreds there too LOL Literally WHO IS THIS FOR??
Himself. It's disturbing how many people out there don't believe in the experiences of others unless they experience it themselves.
If it was solely aimed at convincing white racists that yes, this stuff _really_ goes on, I could understand it. But it seems like it was just for the author's ego.
Nah thats fucking wild, 🤣 like why do they go to these lengths to try to experience prejudice firsthand. That's some narcissism
They gotta make it bout them or else it ain’t real
"Why are you guys making him grow sugar cane at gunpoint?"
"You don't understand -- we're learning about the white experience."
Had a white friend tell me about this guy (I do my best to be as offline as possible). I didn't realize he PUBLISHED A BOOK.
I'm so tired y'all, I'm gonna continue to be more off the internet 😅
as you’ve shown, THE URL WILL FIND YOU IRL
I've been saying this, somewhere along the way we crossed into a parallel universe where life is just Onion articles.
OH HES QUEBECOIS OK IT MAKES SENSE NOW
Funny but facts if anyone knows bout French Canadian racists
yeah I mean the rest of Canada is very racist too, but this is THE most Quebec thing @@foreignfridays
Toronto mans have our own flavor
This really clears things up for me! The Confederate flag is way too popular there. I was stunned
My mom is friends with a tour guide from Morocco and he said the Quebecois were by far the WORST tourists he has to deal with
they already made us read black like me in school what the fuck
THEY DID WTF THATS A HATE CRIME
@@foreignfridays yes my black college history professor made me black like me too
Yup I had to read it in AP English! Assigned by my black teacher but we really just talked about how ridiculous it was
Oh no-
Ohhhhh puke. 🤢
Yo I knew Picasso got his flow from Africa but I figured he must have acknowledged it because it is so obvious from looking at his Desmoiselles dAvignon and everybody knows he did but I just looked it up and bro really tried to pass that shit off as 100% his idea
Scrolled through the comments and disappointed that I didn't see any references to Eddie Murphy's "White Like Me" SNL sketch from the 80s.
"It's okay, nobody's lookin'. Just take it."
@js1741 LMAOOOOOO
7:44 One of my professors was a Tanzanian man. He'd gone to the US to get his Master's (this was New England, maybe the 70s or 80s I believe?) and told us about how a young white boy came up to him one time and rubbed at his skin trying to wipe off his melanin 😭
Yasuke type beat
1:14 OMFG!!! YES!!! PICASSO is from Málaga, Andalucía in the south of Spain, and his art style was inspired by the Afro-Arabian jazz culture. Little hidden gem I'm glad FD picked up on 😘
the hasan giggle periodically is taking me OUT
In-fucking-deed! 😂
I thought hasan was onthe stream😂
I do the hasan scream everytime I hear transphobia in the wild
@@kyumuI do the Hasan scream too omg. 🤣
There actually was a comedy with this premise called Soul Man, which Mindy Kaling's brother then plagiarized to write a book about going through med school in blackface.
I didn’t realize plagiarized that in his book. Omg he can’t even offend originally
@@foreignfridays Well, the premise of the 1986 movie is that a white guy attends Harvard Law in blackface to take advantage of a scholarship for Black students. I'm not saying Vijay plagiarized so much as I'm saying he did the exact same thing to get into med school.
Saying that being racist is a bonding experience for white people does line up with my experience of being a white presenting person. I can't tell the how many times I got what I call the white guy test (especially in the military), where at some point a white dude either throws out the N-word to see my reaction or is just so blatantly racist to see my reaction. One time a former friend, while we just hanging out at his house playing video games just started to play my first racism bingo and was flabbergasted when I pushed back, probably the most blatantly racist experience for me (well outside of unsolicited advice when dating a woman of color, anyway).
Crazy I had an experience with a white dude I used to be friends with he decided to showed me some old racist music which is just white dudes singing about killing, lynching, and harming black people. I was a token back then and wanted everyone to like me it didn't hit me until years later that he was actually testing the waters dudes a full blown conservative conspiracy theorist now he also has half black children it's weird man.
"Racism as bonding" and "the white guy test" really clarifies a lot of weirdness. I need to reflect.
It's like when doctors did research on uterine cancer by studying men.
i NEED to know what he looked like in blackface. Like i just know he looked a fool
Prolly looked like Rachel Dolazal out here
His blackface was brown contacts and some drug store foundation. He refuses to share pictures, so you just know it looked terrible.
He literally said he will not post pics of himself to everyone that asks. He refuses to. Which means he likely looked like the racist white dude on Black White.
@@najbaamer lol. so if he won’t even show proof he actually did anything then how do we know his just isn’t making shit up?
@@lisele39 Lol that would be a wild plot twist
HOLD YOUR FIRE. THIS MAN ISN'T BLACK.
Funimation was so wrong for that 😂
Black White is wild. I was introduced to it by Jarvis Johnson and Jordan's watchthrough. The channel they watched it on was called black-white-itallian
Capital W. I. L. D.
Like I BET The reason of doing this is that he wanted a "real authentic" look at racism and felt that if you interview black people that it may be dramatized or some shit
Of course that's the reason. Racists, by definition, distrust anyone who isn't like them. The only way they'll listen to stories of racism is if the stories come from someone _just like them._
That Dragon Ball Super clip... 😂
@thats4thebirds come get ya flowers
Imagine the recording studio at Funimation that day.
What can I say, I’m a meme artist in training under @othellius
@@Secret_Lizard I bet they didn't give a shit and did it anyways, they are crazy for recording that shit.
At 7:15 - 7:20, I am a vet. And on the first night of basic training we picked the beds we slept in. All of us black folk, we all ended up picking the same corner and we we're in that corner for the first week and until we were forcibly separated (nefarious if you ask me). We did not plan this cause this was at like 2am at this point!! So yes, I agree with this HEAVILY!!😆
Edit: Still watching the video, but 7:45 I met a guy from Louisiana who we were his first black people that he seen. Dope dude though, cool and hella funny.
12:00 Also Italy is STILL like this to an extent that the US isn't: in my personal life I have heard northern Italians call southern Italians "basically Africans" and not consider any of the implications of that statement.
Yup, afaik to this day, southern Italians get this treatment often. Funny story but I'm a black Caribbean man from NYC and I've had to stop and double check multiple times that a random Italian was not in fact my grand uncle (who is what we would call "high yellow" light skinned with short, loose curly hair).
The author literally centered himself in every way imaginable and is now profiting from it. Dude could have watched some UA-cam videos if this was really about learning.
I can't even come up with anything clever, this man's Caucasian shenanigans took away my last two braincells.
Imagining this in the voice of your pfp makes it funny af
Saying Anthony could “do better than Shawn King” is fucking gold 💀
picasso got a lot more than his style from africa. that man went full pdf file in africa
he was just vulgar wherever he went.
He never went to Africa though...
@@N9ndo sorry, i meant to say 'with africa'
The way schools taught me how he invented that style… 🤬
I just read through his entire Wikipedia page and didn’t see anything like what you’re talking about, what did I miss?
Reminder that Italians, Irish, Polish, Czechs, all the Eastern Europeans got promoted to "honorary, but not WASP whiteness" so they could keep outnumbering Blacks and Hispanics.
FD being like, "Black. White was made in 97" when that shit rlly happened a DECADE later is so funny because like... nah its even worse
11:40 so my grandpa is first generation Italian American and he grew up in Omaha Nebraska (~1960’s). He would tell me stories about how when he was a young man he wasn’t allowed to use the public pool because his skin was too dark and about the discrimination the Italian community felt from the police and WASPs. I remember him showing me a video about the largest mass lynching in US history was against Italians in Louisiana (don’t know if it’s accurate but it def happened).
Now all that can be true, but it’s also true that Italian Americans can be some of the most racist people out there. His mother was southern Italian and his family didn’t want him marrying her because of her dark skin and her family didn’t want her to marry him because “he was French” (re: northern Italian close the the French border 😂).
And growing up in a state with basically no Italian American community I have certainly felt some degree of alienation from my peers growing up because of these cultural differences. But at the end of the day I don’t confuse that with systemic racism, when I get pulled over by the police they see a white woman (actually probably a man cause I’m trans but that’s a whole other situation😂) and I’m treated as such by them. But a lot of other young Italian Americans don’t understand this or don’t want to.
Anyways thanks for reading my rambling thoughts!
the tropic thunder bit cracked me up so so much
The author of Black Like Me was very open to listening to black voices and did what he did because he knew white people would ignore black people but listen to another white person. In the epilogue he talks of how he would be invited to talk with city leaders who would ask him how they could speak with the blacks people in their cities, and he would tell them “Stop talking to me, invite the leaders of the black community and talk with them.”
Yes, I remember reading Black Like Me. I may even have seen the movie but it was as mentioned the premise was to get up close and personal with racism by becoming “black”. It was a popular book when I was going to school in the 70’s.
This reminds me of when I’ve seen able-bodied people get school assignments where they have to spend a day blindfolded to simulated being blind or sit in a wheelchair everywhere they go. The assignment is meant to create empathy via “walking a mile in my shoes” or something.
The problem is, in the back of their minds, just like with this white cosplayer, they know they’ll get to go back to their usual lives once their little experiment is done.
I can’t fully understand the experience of a black person because, even if was able to play pretend for a bit, I know when it’s over I’ll go back to being my white as hell self. That’s way different than living that experience 100% of the time from birth. Best I can do is listen and try my best to understand.
I mean in my mind it would always linger that I could definitely be blinded or end up in a wheelchair one day. No one suddenly becomes a different race. Many people suddenly become disabled.
At the same time I would never assign a project like this for empathy purposes but rather in the context of thinking about the design of our communal spaces.
Like research accessibly including interviews and books by disabled people. Go around campus and make note of all the things you think might be a barrier and what is fine. Then try the things you think are fine and are not fine as a test of your assessments. Research strategies disabled people use to get around the barriers you hit. Try them yourself. Evaluate the efficacy of the solutions you thought of.
It isn’t so much about teaching empathy as it is about teaching how there are entire worlds out there of people who have to deal with a lot of stuff you don’t even think about every day. How living every day in these experiences makes them experts in a way that cannot quite be recreated through study.
Though I suppose that if you consider a lack of empathy to be a failure of both imagination and humility…. That would be a lesson that would teach empathy after all.
I think the curiosity of wanting to really know a community in a personal way is a great starting place for making the world a better place and even for empathy. It just needs to be directed in a healthy way and not left to the egos of certain people or you get stuff like this book.
Obviously if a company sets out to think about produce design they want to include disabled people in their design team and as their testers. But for school I would like to not have a class swarm the handful of disabled people on campus to help them test their list of barriers. Interviews of classmates and community partners who volunteer would are one thing. “Follow me around campus and try thing I think might be hard for you “ is another thing completely.
It would be fine to get a willing disabled participant rather to test than to just interview. But there is a fine line to walk between collaboration and able bodied people using disabled people as tools for their personal growth.
he actually couldn't Kamekameha, but he did his hair anyway
The layers in this comment kill me.
Someone already did Black Like Me. We didn't need it again.
Most Egyptians I've met don't really identify as Arab. They've generally used "North African" as a label, with one or two using "MENA" (Middle East[ern] and North Africa[n]; there's also the alternative SWANA or South-West Asia[n] and North Africa[n]). Granted this is anecdotal and not a huge sample size (probably like 15 people)
this is another result of the systemic anti-black discrimination of colonization, egyptians/arabs/pale north africans lobbied successfully to have themselves included in the "whilte" rolls
To slightly counter this anecdote, in my (even more limited) experience of Egyptians, I have seen most comfortably identify as Arab.
@@obansrinathan thanks for the counter example! (genuinely). Goes to show opinions are varied. To add context to my anecdotes, most Egyptians I've met have been in-person in South Africa, so they may have been more likely to identify as African, what with being in another African country. I hadn't considered that aspect before
As an Egyptian, I and most people I know identify as Arab. Although i've seen many people online who don't. From a lineage perspective most Egyptians don't stem from arab tribes but generally the modern mainstream definition of an Arab is someone who's first language is Arabic. Many countries that are now arab countries didnt originally have arabic as it's first language. But we all have a similar shared experience because of the shared language and culture and religion. Now that doesn't mean that I don't also identify as African/ north east african . I also use middle eastern.
this is around the same time ANTM/Tyra was making contestants do black face for challenges
Fun fact: Ice Cube’s show won an emmy award for make-up art
I hate to see what got passed up on
To preface, I’m a good leftist who’s read his Rodney and Fanon, but an album that may or may not be my favorite (it changes) is Talking Heads’ ‘Remain in Light’ which is heavily influenced by African music. They borrowed from black music throughout their existence, ‘77 and More Songs about Buildings and Food were art punk that was heavily influenced by funk, and from Fear of Music through Speaking in Tongues they borrowed heavily from African music. In their concert film Stop Making Sense the musicians outside of the core band were all black. I would be really interested in your take on Talking Heads. Did they respectfully incorporate black influences, or did they culturally appropriate black music?
Talking heads is one of my favourite post punk bands so i’d definitely need to sit back on that to think of it cause i’m inclined to say no but idk if thats just cause i like them lol
@@foreignfridays I would LOVE a deep dive on the subject. I have always been so taken w/ TH/DB music--as a musician--that I've rarely attended to lyrics, and I know little about the artists. Side note: When I saw him live in the 90s, during his tour for his self-titled solo recording, DB explained that "And She Was" was inspired by his neighbor, who came by while enjoying the effects of a hallucinogen. At that moment, I was doing the same. So I do know the lyrics to that tune! LOL. ALL these years later, my band is learning to play it.
Thanks for all you do. Be well.
Thank you auto-captions. “Kameha Mayo Wave” gave me a chuckle.
Here in germany, we have a reporter that did a whole 'documentstion'. He did black face and showed how racist everyone else is. Günter Wallraff - schwarz auf weiß (black on white)
You can see in the trailer, hows he's getting black faced, while a real black man is watching. It's surreal.
The man was applauded for his film. Some voices of concern were raised, but he's still kicking and even has his own show.
Günter Wallraff is known for his 'costumes'. He was a 'hobo', a 'turkish migrant' and he infiltrated a right wing tabloid newspaper (Bild). The last one was the only good idea he had.
the fact black.white was a 2006 show actually lol the 2000s were a weird time
"Some of their uncles start to act different." Perfectly said. Got family members like that. And telling em off or shaming them for it doesn't do shit most of the time. They see anyone who pushes back against their racism as delusional. Anyways, I'm sure y'all knew all that. Gotta engage for the youtube gods.
I will preface this by saying that I am white, but as far as I am aware the one in the 60’s actually did improve race relations. At that time people were to scared to even be in the same room as a black person, so sadly a white person pretending to be black was the closest they could get to actually learning about the black experience. Doing it nowadays though is genuinely insane.
2006 adds up. This was the “Crash” era after all lol
He ain’t even original! This happened in 1961 with a book called Black Like Me! A journalist did the exact same thing 63 years ago! 2:42
Whats the white equivalent of “monkey see, monkey do”
Beautiful smile my man. From one person with a gap to the next! Sometimes I get insecure about mine, then I’m reminded by others with the same strong smile. ❤
If anything this does wonders to prove there is no one to one experience that simulates the constant surveillance black people are under regarding systemic racism. There may be similar experiences from marginalized peoples that come close to it but its not, nor will it ever be a one to one comparison. Maybe a asian woman can relate to a aspect of being othered the way a black woman can. A native person can relate to a certain aspect of the african american experience of being separated from their heritage despite hailing from different cultures. But its never quite the same. Empathy goes a long way but it will always be a exercise in imagination, hypotheticals and assumptions because these life experiences are so fundamentally different.
That's what makes this even worse in my opinion! There are so many forms of oppression and discrimination many people experience, and he is so out of touch with that reality he thought he had no choice but to put on blackface. He can't talk to anyone he knows and trusts about what it's like to be judged for your existence!?
amazon disabled comments on the book
Not saying that ancient Egyptians were "white" but from the way they wrote about the dark skin of Nubians, and the way they depicted themselves in their art, the average complexion of ancient Egyptians was likey a bronze hue. Key word there is average though, it was a very diverse society as a result of it being a cosmopolitan society at the confluence of two continents. Also keep in mind ancient Egypt only got its start about 5000 years ago, modern humans have been on Earth for about 200,000 years. There had been nore than enough time for modern complexions to have mutated onto the scene and for people to have made many many waves of migration. Its likely that many of the people who would form ancient Egyptian society migrated from other parts of Africa, but its just as likely that as many or more came from Middle Eastern regions back into Africa. But yk it really shouldnt matter what "race" an ancient society was, especially when that concept didn't exist then, and we are trying to dismantle that concept today
Eddie Murphy did "White Like Me" on SNL spoofing that Black Like Me book. "What are you doing?!" - "Why, I'm paying for this newspaper, my good man." - "Go on, take it. There's nobody else in here."
I tried to look it up, and Picasso doesn't seem to have denied it
Very interesting video. I really enjoyed 2 of my favorite long form UA-camrs chopping it up. I was born in the 50s, I read the "Black Like Me " book and saw the movie when it came out as well as a research paper in college on it and it's aftermath. The book is an account of being Black in 1959 in New Orleans. The author was from Texas, who had his skin altered by a mix of 1959 drugs and sunlamp treatments, suffered many physical attacks while "cosplaying" being Black and afterwards from the white backlash when the book came out. He had to move to México from Texas for a while to get away. He was on the front lines during the civil rights movement. Keep up the great work
@9:00 Bruno finally looking Italian.
12:53 he looks like he tanned a bit during a camping trip, like my south german mom's skin turns that shade during summer, if it is actually sunny for more then a day or two.
My cousin went to a "camp" to learn about American history where they, I shit you not, woke them up to at like 2 am to march them through the fields while calling them slurs to represent "how bad slavery was". She was six, lmao.
She repressed that shit so hard that we had to verify that it was true based on a journal entry from school we found that she had to write for homework.
Y'know I think you'd get less racism and more "Is that guy in blackface?"
You know what's funny The Punisher also wore blackface to understand the hardships of African Americans.
What’s the name of the book that’s in?
So did lewis lane.
@@Loch1210 Punisher #59 the storyline is called The Final Days
Anyone remember when spawn was horrified to be white? I think it was the first comic. Not to relevant just funny to me.
@@banquetoftheleviathan1404 wait really?
I saw another video about this from this from someone I’m subscribed to and I decided to watch this first to complete the experience of seeing this talked about by people who’s opinions and commentary I value
11:25 It wasn't until recently that I saw pictures of Johnny Cash's first wife, Vivian and she's dark-skinned. Turns out she was Sicilian which didn't read in the casting for Walk the Line.
DUDE I didn’t know u had a second channel. Hype to find it man
Sounds like Foreign bought the Damage drums from Native Instruments for his opening song. It is a great pack much respect
i hate how that dragon ball scene isn't fake 🤣
A Saiyan for 90 days 😂😂
"It had to have happened after Rodney King..."
Technically... 😏 😂🤣😂🤣
It's worth noting that a lot of dark Italians that were slaves. North African corsairs used to regularly abduct people from the south coasts of Europe and put them in bonds, and these people were ostracized from Europeans well after the fact. One of my middle names is handed down to us from a Jewish great grandfather from Austria (he married in South Italy) and it literally means "Slave" so he was likely part of that group.
Also the Mediterranean parts of Europe have a lot more cultural crossover with Africa in general, which is why Moores/Moriscos can be Black and others resemble Middle Eastern and Berbers people, of whom my patrilineal side is descended.
A big part of the Inquisitions in Europe were not to hunt witches or even other Christians but originally founded to basically do a Proto-Holocaust on the Jewish and Muslim peoples of these regions, and some of the most common names in Spain are the names assigned to those who were forcibly converted.
I mention all this because much of the playbooks from these events and trends would inform Colonialism later when applied to the wider world, and to always remind that European history is not White History, PoCs have been in Europe as Europeans for about as long as we have recorded history in the continent/peninsula.
My father, incidentally, is the most white supremacist family member in my core family, yet is the only one who is not "white passing" and has been blocked at the US border regularly when trying to do business trips for 'unknown reasons' (he is brown skinned, incidentally his White coworkers got through no problem on the same credentials...strange).
My mother is a ginger though, so all of us kids are White but in that way where any Caucasian group thinks we're one of them. Had Arabic actors on tv sets tell me "oh you'd be perfect casting for this role" because they thought I was light skinned Arabic or Iranian
bruh if y'all do a video about egypt please hit me up im egyptian and i find this discourse so fascinating pls 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
There was a black novel that had come out during the Harlem Renaissance called "Black No More".By Schuyler back in 1931.
Im Italian, Irish, Moroccan, Lebanese, and Iranian. Theres more bonding the Irish and Lebanese , or Italian Morrocon, and Iranian, all share more than you think.
Itlaians and Irish were both conquered by Germans and both subscribed to Catholic doctrine. Irish culture before Anglo-Saxon colonization was more similiar to african cultures than german culture.
people really forget Italy is a hop and a skip across the pond from africa. The Etruscans were african transplants their language dosent corelate to european language families. the etruscans were the teachers of the romans and inspired most of their society.
Southern Italians are treated like second class citizens because we were "closer to Africans". Half the Roman Empire was black, and London was built by an African Empreror.
The 'dark Italians' thing was weird news for me. As a kid I always wondered if my dad was black, or what, because I never saw anyone else that looked like him, and his skin is darker than most black people's. I'm white af though.
So someone read Black Like Me and was like: “Yep, it’s high time someone did that again.”
The Neolithic culture of Egypt began with populations migrating from the Near East, as shown by archaeological and genetic data. Egyptians are brown because of the same reasons the rest of us in the Middle East are: adaptation for periodic tanning. Of course, over the millennia populations of the Mediterranean, the Levant and North Africa mixed. But as far as origins go, if we are discussing Egyptian culture post the Paleolithic, it was established by immigrants. There is Paleolithic archaeology in Egypt as well, and no, white skin hadn't developed yet- the adaptation only appears after 10-9 k years during the Neolithic.
That ice cube show wasn’t in 97. It was coproduced by Morgan Spurlock, after his supersize me fame.
Blightness (word that rhymes with this) is a helluva drug
I love to blame Americans for a lot of issues of racial injustice, but Canadians this one for y’all to claim😂
I just lump it all up as North America to keep track. Bigotry accounting is hard
Italy really isn't "right next to Egypt".
14:44 I was about to say let's not forget Paul Wall that man is that white unc on the grill with the sweat towel and the old school 😂
there was also Soul Sister: The Story of a White Woman Who Turned Herself Black and Went to Live and Work in Harlem and Mississippi by Grace Halsell. i think that was from the 60s