343 Industries Versus The World
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- This video takes a look back at all the Halo games developed by 343 Industries. It aims to showcase what vision the developers had for the game and how that was different from the expectations that the playerbase had. This is a style of video I have been meaning to try out for a while and with the Destiny 2 downtime I finally had some time to do so. It’s been 2 months in the making and I originally wanted to include Halo Infinite as well, but I ultimately decided to cut that because the video was getting too long and I want to see what 343 can do with Halo Infinite in the coming year to try and remedy it’s current issues.
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Timestamps:
Introduction (0:00)
Halo 4 Campaign (1:30)
Halo 4 Multiplayer (12:37)
Halo The Master Chief Collection (20:53)
Halo 5 Campaign (34:36)
Halo 5 Multiplayer (48:07)
Halo The Master Chief Collection PC (1:08:45)
Halo Infinite? (1:20:15) - Ігри
I'll never get over how they named their studio after the enemy that betrays master chief in the original game.
When you really think about, it suits them quite well.
@@sinisterskills17 yeah that's what he's saying, it's ironic
Dude dont forget 343 literally hired people who hated halo to work on halo games
And never will I get over Bungie making my favorite droid character a bad guy for a cheap twist.
@@zachrohler1047 that actually true? wth
I love how each 343 halo campaign has almost nothing to do with one another
Lmao exactly. Such a dogshit company
It makes it a lot easier for me to play Halo Infinite like it's a distant sequel to Halo 3 than a sequel to 4 and 5. Hell the art style, while not 1-1 is still closer to what you'd expect from a continuation of Halo 3.
@@gabethebabe3337 Yeah but you still have to deal with how bad of a story Infinite is, so all it really does is just make it so it's not a problem to not have Halo 5 on PC. Otherwise, Halo 4 is still a better endpoint than proceeding past it
All thanks to the incompetent writers that can't seem to sit down long enough and come up with a cohesive story that still follows through with what the previous installment set up. I swear 343's supposed "trilogy" is about as all over the place as the Sequel Trilogy from Star Wars.
@@gabethebabe3337 Infinite is an empty and lifeless campaign. the only reason anybody likes it is because they went back to the old artstyle, which is a retarded thing to even need to be happy about.
'How does it feel to have lived long enough to see all of your favourite franchises go down in flames?'
'Great. Feels great.' *thousand yard stare*
Now I know how Star Wars fans feel.
*laughter of pain*
@@MaggotDiggo1 I'm still in mourning. lol
@@MaggotDiggo1 Star Wars fans, Star Trek fans, Lord of the Rings fans, Halo fans, CoD fans, POTC fans, MCU fans... all of us have been totally unconsenually skull fucked with corporate money milking bullshit.
It's so sad how 343 keeps making the most basic of mistakes and shipping Halo games that are frankly broken. I want to get back into Halo, but it's simply not possible with such an incompetent steward of the game.
I remember you were on Halofest 2014, remember the negative gameplay reaction towards the Halo 5 Beta on the Twitch stream? ua-cam.com/video/ByjpyXjoNrA/v-deo.html
It seems many of us are starting to feel this way again... Halo needs to make a comeback after 10+ years of being kicked around and 343i clearly don’t have it within the leadership or creative team to recapture what made it popular. Unfortunately for them, Halo isn’t just Spartans and that’s all they seem to care about. The weapons are lame, the vehicles are lame, the world is lame, maps are lame, and even the movement and way things react/function in game looks and feels out of place.. Just doesn’t feel smooth or satisfying. Give us a small/focused team dedicated to recapturing what Halo was and leave 343i with Spartans/UNSC sub plot games with experimental gameplay features and keep their lore/war games simulation within their non-mainline games.
:(
I walked by master chief one day and he was h3 but he just told me ,please, and then I walked away
I think is sadder that people keep buying them day 1.
They make their money, why put any effort?
They were doomed the second they named themselves after a character that pretended to have master chief’s best interests in mind, then proceed to flip the script and literally try to murder him
They loved the lore so much they became the lore 😔
@@tobsmonster2 lmao and then the fanbase make spartan laser go brrrrrrrrrrr
If the company is actually run by 343 Guiltyspark, they must still be pretty salty after getting spartan lasered in Halo 3.
@@tipnsunny2107 exactly, hence the mediocrity
Yeah... why name yourselves after the thing that betrayed Chief and Murdered Johnson?
Never has it been so easy for a Halo fan to point to a SINGLE video and say “This is why.” It’s the perfect exposé when it comes to the complaints we’ve had over the last 10 years.
There was ua-cam.com/video/ypjLel6SVpk/v-deo.html
"Never has is been so easy"
What's that bud? You have something to say to the adults?
@@dr.loomis4221 Does me editing that single letter make you feel better?
Exposé lmao
@@darkshadow6556No I just think this video is largely toxic and blames a developer that is largely made up entirely of Halo fans that get literally harassed regardless of what they do for the community.
I got genuinely upset when they started laughing at the guy who was pointing out the shot registration issue.
It's not just the ridicule of someone, a fan no less, trying to help. It's the active ignorance and shutting the idea itself down. No matter how much it'd affect their precious "pro scene" or the playerbase at large.
'hur hur you're near a wall'
Yeah fuck those dudes. 343 can't improve because they will insult fans along the way
I got borderline irrationally angry hearing that shit
Bro with the software engineers I've worked with, stuff like this would never fly. If you have been asked to take a look at an issue, you should go fix it to some capacity, period. Doubly so for me since I used to mostly work in the tools team and my clients were basically internal artists and level designers. And no one wants to screw over our in house artists. But I guess 343 was just OK with screwing over their clients(gamers).
same here...i can't believe that, those ppl need to go cuz they're incompetent
What’s really weird is they used to be pro players too, and are still connected with the pro circles. We can see that it was a big problem even for the pros. I can’t for the life of me fathom how that was their reaction instead 🤦♂️
343 has owned Halo longer then Bungie did.. truly think about that for a second... They have no more excuses for the crappy Halo after crappy Halo they've been putting out and Im so sick of people in the community making excuses for them
Unfortunately those people will never go away. Most of those people are so happy to spend full price for a half-assed buggy, unfinished game.
the excuse is in the hiring practices. You hire bad devs and you get bad ideas/implementation.
halo is eternally doomed since it’s owned by Microsoft. Xbox has been a dumpster fire when it comes to homegrown games.
This is what happens when gaming ''evolves'' into mainstream cancer with pro BLM pro trans-rights incels and muh wahmen at the forefront
where is Zyzz when you need him most fam
@Carlos Andrade “hehe I’m pulling one over on them because I pay them a monthly subscription for the campaign (which exists to advertise the aforementioned subscription service) instead of just having bought it!” Genius. I see no flaws in this logic.
"Only time will tell"
All they have had is time. 10 years. The answer is no.
“Only time will tell.” ⏳…
…January⏳…
…February⏳…
…March⏳…
…April⏳…
…May⏳…
…Jun*⏳…
…July⏳…
…⌛️
Time ran out a long time ago. Still no “turn around” in sight.
The issue with their games is they never build off each other. Each game feels like a reboot of the franchise, each story doesn’t connect as well as how Bungie’s games did.
It's like with the Star Wars sequels, they wanted to make a trilogy just to make a trilogy, with no clear vision or story outline for it.
Even the unfinished ending of Halo 2 and beginning of 3 made more sense
Halo 5 connected with halo infinite
@@LazyLoonz No, Halo Wars 2 connected with Infinite.
@@AnyHeroBlake This
“Will 343 turn this around”
No, I’m afraid that’s a no
They called you a madman
We need a sequel
Holy shit he knows. Absolutely can't wait for the sequel
Oh
I cant wait. This video was cathartic.
All i see is fans killing Halo since 4.
@@frozzytango9927 No. 10 years and multiple installments are enough to know how fucking scummy 343 is.
15 minutes in and the editing is phenomenal. Thanks for using some of my videos! You must've gone through some pain editing that Librarian sequence loool
Aw yes. There he is.
Cant remember last seeing a Halo video without some Actman clips in lol
Praise Be! The Act Man is Here!
yo awesome seeing you after going through pretty much all of your videos! and yeah, that part took a while :)
@@MarcoStyle well done man, would love to see your thoughts on Infinite in this format
20:32 "I don't think that's what people want, they may think they want that."
That's the entire modern entertainment industry motto just right there.
Reminds me of when blizzard’s president said “you think you want it (WoW classic) but you don’t”
Utter mind control. The people know what they want!
@@ifeawosika966 Agreed. But I would say utter "gaslighting" instead.
And this is why we show them how wrong they are by not buying their games and showing them how just wrong they are.
@@TheDarkkilla12 Exactly! I guess it's what Americans call "talk with your wallet".
343 has done basically everything in their power to ruin halo
They’re trying to turn it into cod
@@Lidoe not even that, they just gave out a bare bones game
@@Lidoethis is the reason I never finished the first mission of halo 4. It felt too much like call of duty with all the qte’s
They hired people that don't care about halo and only care about making their own game
Player Population at the time of this writing:
Left 4 Dead 2 (2009) - 16.1K
Halo: MCC (2014) - 2.4K
The Witcher 3 (2015) - 14.5K
Apex Legends (2019) - 235.3K
Halo Infinite (2021) - 3.0K
Note that one of these titles is a single-player game.
Remember that 343 said they expect this games longevity to span 10 years; a "live-service."
It's really embarrassing.
to be fair, this is based on steamcharts alone. if you wanna get a bit more accurate, considering the xbox's player count off the site, its somewhere along the lines of 96k-98k players give or take. remember that steamcharts doesn't count playerbases off of steam despite having a crossplatform audience. I mean, its still not doing GREAT but its definitely not as miniscule as you framed it.
@@PKFireFawx
Ahhh that makes more sense. That was a little misleading.
@@PKFireFawx microsoft hides their player counts anyways so they should never be used as a metric. They also bump up games with no population randomly so its even more untrustworthy
@@PKFireFawx yea xbox is like the bulk of the population
The most amazing part is they made literally EXACTLY the same mistakes with halo infinite it’s mind boggling they learned NOTHING from 10 years of making halo games. That’s honestly impressive.
Same mistakes, a SHIT TON less extreme
@@kennydavila3805 Considering that the game can be literally unplayable at times because of the Desync... You're wrong. Same level of mistakes.
@@tropitropitropo I think this only hit a few people.
Sort of like it took them 10 year to learn how to make a passable game.
@@kennydavila3805 Not really, Halo Infinite is all the same issues to the same level at hte best of times, and just way worse at the worst of times.
So basically every Halo game made by 343 has had different upper management, different creative leads, different directors, and your actual dev teams have had inconsistent employees. How has Microsoft not looked at that and said “well, maybe we should get one of our established studios to develop these games?” It might not be Bungie…but at least it would be a structured core group of employees. Like this was painful to watch.
But you know who has been there for all 3? bonnie ross. Odd, right, how she sticks around and things continue to get shittier and shittier.
@Riorozen But he's not head of 343. You don't blame the crew for the captain's mistakes.
@@Frank_West I wonder if Kiki Wolfkill might also be a common factor. Producer on Halo 4, executive producer on MCC…then she goes on to be lead on transmedia, i.e. she’s one of the primary representatives for 343 on the Paramount+ show, which is just GOD AWFUL.
Clearly, she’s not doing a very good job
I’ve said that after their recent acquisition spree, they now have id Software-one of the godfathers of the FPS genre that have arguably never made a truly BAD game-under their umbrella. For God’s sake, have them or even Machine Games take a crack at Halo. They couldn’t do a WORSE JOB than 343, at least.
@@jaythomas468 ID already made a better Halo than 343, Doom Eternal.
Had to watch a 5th time.. I just keep coming back to this video. I can not get over how expertly crafted it is. Seriously, mad props for the editing
This video absolutely had to be made and you were definitely the right guy to do it. The magnitude of incompetence is staggering. 15 year old entries into the series are still outclassing new entries with 50x the team and budget. Halo Infinite's first year should be giving you enough material for a follow-up.
This is the tip of the iceberg you know.
It was either him or Crowbcat.
@@EvilPhoenix007 really? What else is there about 343 we don't know???
@@dylanscott29 You’re under selling the kind of content Crowbcat makes! I’m not going to champion some faceless person on the internet, but you should watch more of his videos. The videos encompass more than just bugs. The E3 coverages are rather entertaining, I’d recommend starting there.
@Dylan Scott Crowbcat showcases considerably more than just bugs
"Will 343 turn things around?"
We're now in March of 2022 and I have your answer:
Nope.
Hope this is the last Halo Game.
“Only time will tell.” ⏳…
…January ⏳…
…February ⏳…
…March ⏳…
…April ⏳…
…May ⏳…
…Jun* ⏳…
…July ⏳…
…⌛️
Time ran out a long time ago. Still no “turn around” in sight.
Winter update was a step in the right direction, bit of a shame that it came long after time was up. Would have been better to delay the game another year imo.
@@mycelia_ow Yeah. Let's have this spartan go missing in action, finally.
two years later:
still nope
It’s honestly impressive how incompetent they are. A decades worth of work and everything they’ve touched is a shitshow. Embarrassing.
It would be best for Microsoft to consider halo 4 onward as non canon. It’s time to bring in fresh material from a better group of devs… maybe bungee
Honestly, 343 are so fucking lucky they inherited one of the most beloved franchises already built by a far more passionately and capable group. Had 343 had to build a series from the ground up, it would've flopped immediately given their incompetence and the studio would be promptly shut down.
Its not a decades worth because microsoft change workers for 343 every 18 months
@@jaychung1380 Halo 4 isn't worthy of being canon. Everything made after Reach is non-canon, in my mind.
@@jaychung1380 Bungie is long gone
That introduction from Halo Wars 1 is ironic in a way. Cutter's speech actually describes how Ensemble Studios felt about its development. But at least Ensemble delivered on their promises and made a good game.
At least Halo Wars one felt faithful to the original Halo identity, the soundtrack is good to this day.
@@EvilPhoenix007 insignificanta is my personal favorite
@@unknownwill4th549 I started humming it while reading Colin's comment, it's that memorable.
If only Microsoft put ensemble studios staff in 343, a company they forced to learn halos design philosophy, got tutorship from marty (most of bungie were not happy) actually learned and liked halos lore and just... got rid of them.
Honestly impressive how incompetent this company is. I've seen many people say that Halo needs a new company to carry it on...and i'm starting to agree.
Actually bungie needs to get their game back from 343
@@soldierforchrist9542 With how Destiny is going, i can only disagree.
@@soldierforchrist9542 only if Jason Jones stop being an idiot and bring the old Bungie team back.
@@soldierforchrist9542 at this point, I wouldn't blame Bungie for never wanting to touch the series again. They probably are sad enough seeing the "finished" products that come out, imagine if they became privy to the shitshow behind the scenes that we don't see.
@@soldierforchrist9542 Bungie is a total dumpster fire now, the old days are not coming back.
This video has a few typos and I'm upset now.
How dare you make a minor spelling mistake! I'm gonna go complain on Twitter now >:(
Lol.
Eh dont worry, Its a greatly put together vid
Just don’t misspell duh
Your editing skills are remarkable. Who cares about a couple typos
4:10 Nanobots "repaired" his armor but there is still the dent in his chest from halo 3
Gorton you made it off Taris? What state is the Anti Alien League in now?
I guess Chief got the discount model
It’s like scar tissue it can’t heal properly
How were the nanobots not effected by a cryochamber? Where did they get the design for the new armor? So stupid.
@@criticalripz not just that but where did they get the new weapons and new models for all the weapons and vehicles and general ship? Plus how did the ship get like 10x bigger?
Don't think 343 will turn this around, it's now the end of June and the only thing they have updated is the item shop. My heart aches everyday having to see the current state of halo. Halo was a such a huge part of my childhood. 343 ruined halo for everyone...
Hey! At least the shareholders got to bloat their bank accounts!
Money degrades all the gods of man and turns them into commodities.
At this point I'm hoping the studio just gets euthanized and we move on.
It's baffling how Microsoft still allows 343 to touch one of their marquee titles after a decade of blundering each game they release. At this point, they should just dissolve 343, retain and let the other studios absorb the programmers, the artists, the sound designers, the maintenance people, the interns, and basically everyone else beside the decision makers, the people at the head of that studio. Boot them out.
Scratch that: the networking team needs to be sacked as well. Desync is still a problem. I'm getting matched probably with people half a world away basing on my ping which wasn't a problem last season. Jesus Christ, these people.
Bonnie Ross works at Microsoft and head of 343. She's in charge Microsoft can't do anything without causing more problems and Phil is a good friend of Bonnie
@@Legion849 Obviously Bonnie Ross works at Microsoft. Booting her out of 343i doesn't mean firing her. Executives often have more than one function in the company or they can move her and focus on something else. Plus she's not in charge of Microsoft. That's Satya Nadella. Phil reports directly to Satya.
"when they learn? You fool...They ordered me to do it." tatarus when arbiter thought he was going against the profits when the profits wanted the betrayal to happen.
They hire an army of contractors. I think there's little talent there that's salvageable.
The editing on this is insane, I can’t imagine how long this must have taken to make
thanks man, about 2.5 months but a lot of that was research as well.
@@MarcoStyle You my good sir have earned a sub
Hahaha unfortunately Late Night Gaming here still tries to make Infinite look like a decent game. Wish you would stop promoting that junk pile! You're the problem, keep giving them positivity regarding this awful product but expect quality.
@@TanThighsYum
Consider that income is at stake. All our fave halo content makers probably can't speak out too publicly considering how they became involved with infinite. Leaving a comment of approval on content like this might be the only way they can speak out or acknowledge the problems.
@@TanThighsYum Maybe one should consider stopping playing video games if it makes you this hostile and toxic towards a video game company and a video game UA-camrs. At the end of the day it’s just a video game franchise that we play on a piece of plastic, no need for your anxiety filled rant about who supports what.
You deserve more recognition than "good editing." It's more than just the effects, it's the narrative. You made a coherent story out of dozens of videos from different creators.
THIS!
You'd like crowbcat then.
@@seanliu1311 This is better than Crowbcat, this is in chronological order and has clips of Halo UA-camrs talking about the games as things were happening. Definitely took a LONG time.
Absolutely. Never has it been so easy to watch one video, and understand the complaints we’ve had about 343i for the last 10 years. This is the definitive video that Halo fans can point to and say “This is why.”
@@criticalripz Agreed! That’s why I love this video and show it to people or tell them to look it up when I explain how I’m kinda over the franchise at this point. It’s a great summary of the last 10 years of Halo
I can't wait to see "343 industries vs the universe" after the whole infinite situation has ran its course. Rather have a good game but if not I'll take the part 2
Well so far it turns out Bonnie Ross was the main reason 343 failed, cause Pierre took over as the lead for 343 and halo and the winter update is killing it
@@bahamutr4270 one update doesn’t erase a decade of bad choices
This is like the Crowbcat video on steroids. Fantastic job, great editing, and hey, I was in it briefly!
(Wish someone had told me about this video a year ago!)
Great video man, be proud.
The sheer incompetence of 343's upper management in handling almost every aspect of Halo makes me wonder how no one in those positions have been promptly fired and replaced.
I'm genuinely shocked. It was failure after failure after failure after failure, yet Bonnie Ross and co. are still there.
Brain Reed was fired only after months of fans demanding him to be removed. Everyone else is just jumping ship and quitting, which, imo, is much worse.
Bonnie Ross should have NEVER been allowed near Halo.
Sounds a lot like Disney Star Wars...
@@aarontylerbellfilms8486 Disney? Try the prequels by George Lucas. Halo is currently going through the "prequels" phase where everything is hot garbage and only kids like it.
@@bigdaddynero The prequels did have serious flaws, but I think Disney’s overall management of the franchise as a whole (including Star Wars parks/attractions) is a better analogue for 343’s frequent management fumbles.
Legitimately had no clue that kicking people out of match made games was possible. That’s honestly hilarious.
If I was host of one of these, I’d wait til 5 seconds left or kill 49 of a game I was losing, before I booted the other team lol. Ultimate Troll move
Clear signs of no play test with the community.
@quicknfearless lol
@@fighTLast4ver Because they now treat their launch as the play test. Devs/Studios don't care about QA anymore. They want the game preordered and purchased regardless of how bad of a launch they have since they assume players will be patient for the game to be complete/finished later on. Players are finally getting fed up with that practice and some of the smaller companies have been better about this now. But the big boys still can't seem to get it through their thick heads.
@quicknfearless Destiny is trash
343 got this superiority complex and keep thinking that they can make halo better as if there was something wrong with the classic halo formula when bungie was working on it but in actuality they are just keep trying to fix a problem that never existed to begin with. Imagine Coca-Cola didn’t learn their lesson when they released the new coke and instead of bringing back the classic coke that everyone actually wants they just keep making new coke 2 and new coke 3 until they go bankrupt, that’s the direction 343 is heading right now.
Bonnie Ross gone, Kikki Wolfkill gone, Frank O'Conner gone (today)......maybe what is left of 343 can make a comeback. nah, just fire everyone
People have really forgotten how genuinely disastrous the MCC's initial launch was. That along with Assassins Creed: Unity is when this shit started to become the norm and it has pervaded into today.
Oh I remember it well, senior year in high school I installed it being super excited and being pissed for years up until they got off their asses and fixed it. Halo MCC was the only reason I bought the Xbox one. TBH this whole gaming generation has been pathetic especially for Xbox
@@ScornedScallopes And I remember MCC price went down to $10. all of a sudden they said it was fixed, it was marked back up full price.
No one has forgotten those.
No one will EVER forget those.
At least MCC is (sort of, I hear there's a few server issues but I haven't touched multiplayer with it yet) in a good place now.
Same can't really be said for Infinite.
I mean it happend before Fallout New Vegas had like the worst launch ever with 1000s of glitches. Just like 76
This rivals The Fall of 76 for me in terms of sheer research and clarity of message. It's utterly insane to me how comprehensively 343 has managed to betray the legacy Bungie left behind, and this is such a great exploration of their history with this franchise.
Can't wait for the Internet Historian to make Halo Finite video releasing 2025
343's legacy is one of incompetence and a complete lack of vision.
Let's not talk about the fact that if you even critique their game in any manner they deem "angry", they'll just perma ban you from their forums
Everything went downhill after that quick-time event with an Elite during the first mission of Halo 4.
We're so good at making hideous creatures that make you vomit, we have to show you how good we are at making hideous creatures by looking directly at his face.
True, especially with Chief's follow up line: "I thought we had a truce with the Covenant"
No the UNSC did not have a truce with the Covenant, Humanity allied with the Elites AGAINST the Covenant and 343i thought that the Elites = Covenant because they are aliens lmao.
@@alessandro348 then they had to explain it further in Halo 5 which made things even more confusing that it was a sect of Elites who still believed the Covenant chose them which makes no sense (if you played Halo 1-3) since the Elites were kicked out of the covenant in Halo 2 in exchange for brutes and the Arbiter made it very clear the prophets were liars... 343 dont even know the lore of the series they own
@@randomguy4781 This exactly, and what’s funny is literally any lore 343 comes out about “Covenant remnant elites that hate humanity” they gloss over, fail to mention or don’t pay attention to the Great Schism. It’s telling that the very first post-war story we got, The Return, was all about how traumatizing, gut-wrenching, and guilt-inflicting that revelation was, and how much it shook their culture and society to the core. Then all the sudden they retcon it with “most elites hate humanity and the arbiter.”
Kind of an inconvenient truth for them, that was.
Literally the first enemy you see in a 343 game, boiled down to a QTE.
Well this was an awesome video and a perfect recap of the last 10 years of 343 very good enjoyed it a ton
Take this guys advice. Don’t be a no life and stick to this franchise if it’s causing you this much pain.
@quicknfearless how is Destiny more accessible? Unless you look up tutorials it's kinda hard to know what to do after doing the campaign and expansions. Crucible and Iron is cancer unless you've got the meta build.
This is coming from someone who's played Destiny 1 & 2 for countless hours, I wouldn't recommend this game to anyone unless they wanna invest all their time just to push a couple light lvls and down $200 for content
Eyy
@@BetaBreaking No my friend, you choose what you want to do in Destiny 2.
@@MICROKNIGHT3000 What if I want to play The Red War?
I feel like such a chump for feeling good about Infinite.
We all do my man.
I feel you so much, dude. I unironically like the game but it is most likely because it's a microwaved version of what I loved during my teenage years. I can't give it more praise than just that.
That 2018 teaser trailer was the most Halo thing 343 has ever done and of fucking course it was a big fucking lie. 343 as a whole is like if you took Peter Molyneux from the Fable franchise (The guy who would overhype Fable with each game only to fail to meet those expectations) and you made a whole company with him as the sole employee.
dont feel bad. I swore to never give them another chance after 4 but still got hyped up about Infinite by the teaser trailer. just glad I didnt actually buy Infinite and waited for the reviews to come out instead.
I feel like a chump for ever liking halo in the first place hahahah
We now need a sequel to this. Perhaps the largest fall of grace in gaming history.
What "fall from grace", 343 has always been consistently shit
@@nagger8216 I think they mean the Halo franchise tbf
@@nagger8216 He means the Halo games fell from grace
19:27 glad our Halo 4 Forge ViDoc parody lives on :D
Funny little story: we used to be a large Reach machinima channel back in the day (Rise of the Spartans, Middleground, Tempus Maximus) and when 343 took over the franchise there was such a complete butchering of forge, theater, and even custom games that we were somewhat forced to move on from creative Halo content, and is why to this day we make Minecraft animations instead of Halo machinima.
I loved the parody back then and it is still a masterpiece now.
I LOVE that forge doc man. Had me howling back in the day. Sad to see you're not doing Halo but glad to see you're still going. Middleground and it's sequel are my favourite Halo Machinima ever made.
I miss your Halo content a little more every day. But I'm glad you were able to move forward to new horizons. ☺
Thank you for making my childhood bro 💙
@@DavidRB I was in elementary school when I first saw Rise of the Spartans
Now I’m a Junior in high school
Thank you for those memories David
Legitimate question, why has Microsoft not, at some point, fired the entire 343 team and just started over? The level of incompetence within 343 is mind boggling.
because money?
I mean it's pretty evident that employees including directors keep leaving so I'm pretty sure they're doing the job for them by just leaving the shitshow
I agree. They should get a new company to redo Halo 4 and the following sequels and list everything 343 made as non canon.
At this point they need to give Halo over to an already established Dev team. 343 is absolutely incompetent. Blows my mind that these useless morons still have the Halo ip.
@@southerndesperado3607 I was thinking that to myself today lol, Imagine halo 4 starting off with a mission in the old broken rusty forward unto dawn and you have to use all the old UNSC weapons and tech to escape idk that would have so much better then halo 4 showing an old ship with the same design, weapons and tech as the UNSC infinity like wtf is wrong with 343 they lack so much creativity and imagination
Makes me miss the days when studios actually shipped completed games on launch...
Bonnie Ross needs to go together with the entire 343 leadership team. Joseph Staten MIGHT be able to turn the ship around but we just don’t know. The fact is that the studio needs a huge overhaul!
I don't really know if making an ex bungie member the ceo of 343 will magically fix everything. There's way more to this then just incompetent leadership
Just fire 343 already. Give the franchise to id software
Bonnie is gone. 500 more to go
Well she left and halo infinite is pretty much canceled.
Bonny Bonnie got booted, really booted
I am speechless with how well this story is crafted in this video. The editing is god tier obviously but the story telling is on another level. This video was a joy to watch.
I don't think 343 would agree with you.
@@Frank_West they need to if they want to turn the franchise around, but at this point-and with all I’ve seen in the video-it’s pretty evident that they just don’t care.
343's issue is that they never want to do what 'was done before', and so they make changes that don't need to be made, just for the sake of being their own thing.
... well Infinite contradicts your statement entirely, but in terms of 4, 5 and MCC @ Launch (until it was finally fixed, which IIRC was after the Xbox One X launched, and Phil was turning the company around) I agree completely. You have to understand too, that a lot of their bad decisions were made because of the INTENSE pressure from the competition at the time. CoD & Battlefield weren't a joke back then, they were the ONLY God-tier Multiplayer Console FPS at the time- the only comparable games were like Medal of Honor's feeble attempts at copycatting Modern Warfare, and Ubisoft was still transitioning to the X1 generation, and wouldn't produce anything relevant until SIEGE (which was poorly received at launch as well, bc of the whole Watch Dogs "Ubisoft Downgrade" issue that was occuring at the time). Gears of War was like just starting to peak and then descend into irrelevance, and Sony wasn't producing any heavy hitter FPS Exclusives. I'm rambling, but my point is (and I think a major theme of this video) that BUNGiE leaving Microsoft and HALO behind shook the industry to its core, far more than most people realize. Halo Reach was such a hard 10/10, with a sheer scope and level of quality that no other dev at the time was capable of producing (especially on a 360!!). The visuals are still incredible because BUNGiE's art design is peerless, and the amount of modes, innovations and straight up polish was something that 343i was never going to attain in the time allotted. That's why I think Infinite deserves more credit, because before Phil Spencer, I wager it would've launched alongside Series X as planned- in a completely unplayable state, and killed the franchise dead. People also overlook the effects the pandemic is having on every developer right now. I could go on, but I'm wasting my breath. I'm just saying they're doing better now, but they're still not where they need to be. If they don't add some more actual CAMPAIGN to the Campaign (including all forms of co-op), and more MAPS, MODES and FORGE to the Multiplayer, then this will not end like the No Man's Sky redemption story. Or even the "Cyberpunk is okay now" story. It'll be an ANTHEM story, where it's abandoned and given to some Activision Blizzard studio to completely recreate from the ground up lol.
@@narcspector Infinite only contradicts his statement because 343 were literally causing the franchise to go so downhill it was losing massive support. 343 went back to SOME of what was done before because they were failing.
@@narcspector Oh so sliding is doing what was done before? You people are delusional.
@@narcspector ok so tell me why there's no assassinations, different and boring medal replacements, no playable elites, no Duel wielding, no primary and secondary color customization, only 5 maps, only like 5 game modes, no coop, no forge, no firefight, no working theater, no character level ranking, no replay option for campaign missions.. just seems like 343 took an idiot dump all over the game for no reason at all
@@narcspector maybe because infinite was literally there last chance to get it right?
I think it’s safe to say that we need part 2 now.
Halo 1-3: Forerunners are probably ancient humans
Halo 4 onwards: Whatever the fuck 343 shoved into expanded uni novels and comics nobody read (including the Diadact coming back, then dying again?) before dropping the entire storyline after Halo 4.
343 couldn't write good Halo stories/lore if they had a gun to their head.
Infinite's leadup had me hopeful they would finally get their footing. Now Ive given up on 343, they are incompetent and tone deaf as a studio.
100% agree 343 is completely full of shit.
Same
I literally burst out laughing at the MCC montage. I almost forgot how bad that launch was. Incredible video Marco
How bad that launch what?
What about the launch of the multiplayer, what about the CURRENT state of halo in overall? L m a o, 343 is a pile of sht
@@cheporestrepo i mean it’s all pretty bad, but MCC takes the cake on the list of garbage Halo releases
@@xchirs_ idk which one is worse, this is sad af
They were banking on you forgetting
@@xchirs_ Not really. MCC had a reason for why it was as bad as it was, back then it was 5 total games on one disc that was rushed for a Holiday release, if you didn't expect it to be a disaster, you were kidding yourself. Infinite can't even get Custom games to work right, something MCC was actually able to do at launch.
When Bungie made a halo game they’ve actually take time, care and patience to make the game fun. Even with halo 2 hellish development you can tell there’s passion and ambition to make a great game
When 343 make a Halo game, they’ve released in a buggy state with no passion ambition and care. They wanted to please fans but they’ve divided the fanbase even more
Would you pick Modern Bungie over 343?
@@ginopippofrebooter-ilrinne2881 Absolutely. Even modern bungie still has some sort of quality control. 343 is the worst game developer in the business
@@ginopippofrebooter-ilrinne2881 Yes Cause Unlike 343 They Actually Add New Content
@LOAN NGUYEN As a Destiny fanboy and Halo fan, I don't agree that the game itself is mediocre.
8/10.
@@TRG_R17 hahaha ha you have no idea what modern bungie is up to these days.
You think 343 is bad?
Bungie is approaching EA levels of scumbag behavior and monetization.
Does anyone remember shortly after Halo 4's release when the online servers were offline for like a full two weeks? That was a fever dream
This is legitimately professional documentary level good.
How the hell can you fail so consistently with an established juggernaut title, unrivaled funding, Microsoft resources, and all this feedback? They can't even manage to release old games that already work. This level of incompetence is almost as shocking as Bonnie still having a job.
Bonnie still has a job because she’s Microsoft alumni. She’s been there a very long time.
That's exactly why they're failing to do well with Halo, I think. There's nothing to put a fire under their ass, and they're complacent for it.
Affirmative action hires are hard to get rid of
If Bonnie is gone and replaced with someone who understands Halo then my god, Infinite could be the best Halo.
@@Fuk99999 because art isn't money.
Halo hasn't mattered since Reach.
Hello everyone,
I am from 5 months in the future and I have horrible news
this video has aged very well, meaning infinite has not.
We as a community shall now adopt this video as exhibit one on why to fire 343.
Thank you for you're time.
Well their getting layed off/fired now so aged pretty good
I am from the mentioned time, I can confirm this man is telling the truth.
confirmed time traveler!
I think it’s safe to say that 343 is too incompetent to handle a huge IP like Halo. Microsoft should just let some other developer take over and let 343 handle the smaller games for Xbox, that is, if they don’t mess those up too.
Agree 💯
They should just give 343 the EA treatment, I don't see them making anything good at all, I wouldn't trust them to make solitaire.
100% agree.
I think I know a group of people who were really good at making Halo games...!
Just get rid of everyone at 343i and re-hire everyone from Old Bungie at their original positions.
Yes, get rid of EVERYONE. Even the CEOs and other executives. Most of this shit is their fault to begin with, and we could all do without them. (If new-old Bungie wanted to re-hire ex-343i artists or whatever, that's their impetus.)
These idiots couldn't even handle a mobile phone game
This is a monument to how dire modern gaming has become. The publishers are all so bloated and dont care. The developers cant help but lie through their teeth and have no idea what the audience wants.
It’s sad aswell because it’s not like the community isn’t telling them look at battlefield for example all anyone has been saying is game like bf bad company or bf 3/4 then we get ww1 ww2 and the future it’s daft ahahaha
They know what we want. They literally just don't care. And it's ignorant... The have been enabled so long they figure they will probably get paid either way.
Who cares if the game's bad or how shitting out an unfinished mess / lying might affect reputation? People already bought the game!! The fuck they gonna do, un-buy the game? They're stupid enough to forget before the sequel comes out, anyway!
@@caramelldansen2204 there are so many people complaining not only in this comment section but in the gaming community as a whole about how terrible the industry has gotten. Yet they continuously buy the games that they shit on. People don’t understand that nothing will ever change unless they stop supporting these people with their wallets. Harsh words mean nothing if you continuously shovel out cash for these dick bags.
@@caramelldansen2204 Tbh the blame is just as much on the consumers, if not more than the developers here. They'll keep selling these titles because they can and 343 knows this.
"I don't think that's what people want. They may think they want that, but what they really want is ________" sums up the entirety of 343's career.
20:34
The arrogance of them..
“They may think they want that, but they don’t”.
343's inability to safeguard Halo over the last 10 years has been a colossal failure, and I am shocked that they have not all been fired by now
Nay it was Heresy!
HER-E-TICS! HER-E-TICS! HER-E-TICS!
Why fire them when they're quitting 🤣
I heard this in Truth's voice
Indeed
its funny how technology advances and the quality of games gets worse. in 2007 and 2010 we get complete games with forge and co op but now in 2021 we have to wait as much as 6 months for these things
And with no real tradeoff graphically. Going from the PS1/N64 to Gamecube/Xbox it was like wowww. Now it's like, wow more green, higher poly models at quadruple the staff of before. More people working on less games, its lame
They're bigger and more expensive to build. The quality control nowadays is worse. There's no guarantee that a game will just work at launch. And as they get more expensive and more complicated the design becomes more conservative and risk averse.
Microsoft doesn’t care about gaming they haven’t since the end of the 360
Damn say you know nothing about game development without saying you know nothing about game design.
@@KingindaNorf go ahead and explain then how game development precludes you from shipping a finished product in the modern era.
I've officially watched this single video so many times that I've spent more hours on it than in playing Halo: Infinite's campaign
I loved the passive-aggressive tone of the editing, beautiful job
The whole armor nanobot thing could have easily been avoided by just giving us Halo 3 mechanics and armor for the first level, have us get onto the Inifinity in the second level and get new armor then get sucked into Requiem and instead of deactivating those towers to communicate with the Infinity, we disable them to “escape” inadvertently releasing the Ur Diadect from his Cryptum and continuing the story as we know it.
That makes too much sense for 343 to think of.
Yeah except it takes away the weight of the ending cutscene
@@danzathelaetherwing6923 there is no weight to the ending anyways since they brought Cortana back in 5
@@TheDeadricLordDagon Not what I was even talking about lmao
@@yaroslav7458 When that joke is made by Frank O’Connor, why should we believe it not to be fact ?
He could have just said, well due to further improvements to the engine were able to have even more polygons and further enhance fidelity of character models and armors.
I remember back when people were debating over whether Halo Reach was the best or worst game of the franchise…
…Oh how we failed to realize just how good we had it back then…
Yeah I remember all the forum posts on Bungie how reach was trash, it's the worst Halo game, Bungie ruined Halo, etc. Halo 4 was the nail in the Halo coffin for me. I really didn't like that game. Can't believe I even bought the damn Halo 4 controller.
@@Medevil9908 To be clear, I absolutely loved Halo Reach. I think it was a worthy send off from Bungie.
Reach is still one of the worst entries. Infinite, after sure content updates, will most likely be the best.
@@brickweathertop7907 I would disagree for the narrative. While Infinite is a mechanical masterpiece, the actual narrative is one of its biggest disappointments. And that’s not something that they are going to be fixing in any updates, unfortunately.
As for Reach, it was also a mechanical marvel in its time, mainly for Forge. And it arguably still has the best customizability for character appearance of any Halo game. With freedom of color selection, emblem creation and absolutely no armor being locked behind a pay wall.
@@paradoxlaboratories8005 oh my, just because you can chose colors in Reach does not make it better. Reach’s forge was a minor improvement over 3, the biggest “evolution” was snapping forge pieces together lmao. Infinite’s forge will be vastly superior. And disagree on narrative being bad, it’s not huge in scope but it wrapped up the previous games and set up this Infinitr trilogy, excited for Halo The Endless dlc especially with Joe Staten as creative head leading the project from the ground up.
Reach mechanically was weak as hell and clunky. Story was alright, characters fell flat.
Legit by the end of 2022 you can proably add a whole extra 2 hours to this documentary
I literally uploaded an updated version of this covering infinite
343’s best contribution to Halo was not putting the Prometheans in Infinite
Well, this has convinced me (more than I already was) 343 is not only incompetent, but will never be competent. Microsoft needs to clean house, fire management and get some people who actually give a damn in there.
I know some people who know how to make a Halo game! Watch the Halo making-of documentaries and developer commentaries, they might just give us a clue to solve this mystery!!
While this video may not have gone ‘viral’, I’m glad that it’s getting the attention it deserves. Hard work should be rewarded.
1:05:56 god I hate how he says “no”. He just sounds so full of himself and confident in his bad idea
How does this not have tens of millions of views??
MCC was one of the largest displays of game dev incompetence ever in gaming. I get that there are broken games like Cyberpunk but I would call this a whole other league of failure because all they had to do was make decade old games again as they were and wow I have never seen such an amateurish development studio with such a solid track record of it.
From Halo 4, to 5, to MCC, and now Infinite being a barren wasteland with no content and barely functioning servers, 343 has a history of being inept and releasing trash dumpsterfire games no one would ever play if it wasn't Halo. Microsoft just needs to pack them up.
Couldn’t agree more.
Hate to say it... But you are right.
A developer with such a bad reputation is developing such a huge and ambitious franchise.
MCC may be fixed now but the facts are it shouldn't have released in such a broken state to begin with.
@@naet3 so then infinite should be out for 5 years before its playable with good content and complete?
Bullshit. Finish the game or don't put it out at all
@@Nighterlev i feel like Infinite has the good gameplay at its core and artstyle isnt bad best of both bungie and 343's ideals but everything else surrounding it i genuninely hate it has the right idea gameplay wise but lot of flaws elsewhere
36:03
He stumbled and had to correct himself before he called master chief "the traitor" instead of the chief. Which fucking boils my blood that these people never saw him as the hero he was when making halo5, just a convenient character to play off of for their own characters
Good Spot.
Honestly, don't think anyone cares about Halo's story, characters or fanbase at 343i. Only thing they care about is the marketability and potential profit.
@@marcusnia9566 in my opinion I think 343 cares about their own story, it just isn't a Halo story. They are just using the halo universe to tell it
Since they definitely put personality into the characters they designed for halo 5, unbearable personalities but they are still there. 343 doesn't care about the bungee story or where the direction of the universe was going because that's not their story.
I just despise when game developers who buy an ip decide to throw away everything that was already built up to that point cause "eh not mine don't care, I'll just use them to make my characters look better ig"
20:33 Did he just pull a "You think you do but you don't" ???
I think 343 gave you enough content to make a sequel of this.
People like to complain a lot about how negative halo fans are, but after watching this, I don't think they get enough credit for just how patient and hopelessly optimistic a good majority of them have been toward 343, when they clearly don't deserve it.
343's handling of Halo really is wild. They were basically handed a golden ticket and all they have done is squander it. The fact that as of now they have been in charge of Halo for longer than Bungie was and that they have yet to produce a complete product (much less one of the caliber of the original trilogy) and still haven't been shut down in spite of clear evidence of gross mismanagement is astounding. It speaks to the amount of money that Microsoft has. They don't care if 343 burns cash and Halo's reputation and influence for a decade, they can just eat that cost like it was nothing. I can't think of any other job where I could fail at it for over ten years and not be fired.
Government
Microsoft hasn’t cared about gaming seriously since Kinect,that’s why they kept this terrible studio
Get used to it, since MS has bought CoD (the biggest FPS on the planet) they literally have no reason to care about Halo anymore
Halo 5 made billions and Halo Infinite is making billions. By their metrics, they are killing it.
@@sneedclavehere8918 What is your age?
12:25 i legit quit halo 4's campaign on this mission because i always ran out of ammo.
Crowbcat would be proud
Genuinely wish 343 as a company was never put together. I can’t believe this clown company got the Halo franchise. Absolute disgraces
You could honestly give the franchise to 3 college dudes in a garage and I'd bet money that they make a better game, it won't be nearly as polished because they don't have nearly as much money. But I'd rather a rough gem then a polished piece of crap
That's pretty harsh, have you played mcc since 2019? It's alot better now, and it's even on pc.... I feel bad for 343, they are actually trying now, and halo infinites campaign shows that.
@@jasperfox6821 ah yes, let's support them for finally fulfilling the promise they made of the game on launch 5 YEARS AFTER
@@SneccTheSnake yeah, they did fuck up in the past....every game dev has done that. Yeah, MCCs launch was bad, and yeah, they fixed it years later.... and yeah, 5 was bad, 4 wasn't very good, but these fuck ups, are in the past.
@@jasperfox6821 so you're saying we shouldn't pay attention to their past repetition of consistently failing to give ANY amount of decency when it comes to the halo franchise because "well they're trying now"
Which is not true btw, they released infinite and then immediately went comms dark and we haven't heard anything except "oh we'll work on it"
As someone who wasn't there for the launch shenanigans of 4, 5, and MCC, this provided a lot of insight on exactly why 343i gets clowned so hard. Very well done!
This is just the tip of the iceberg too. :)
10 years of this nonsense, dude💀
really makes you wonder when microsoft is gonna get some new management or just a new team for this franchise seeing how microsoft still wants halo in the gaming world
It makes sense considering they weren't really there for the golden age, they have no clue what they're doing lol
It’s so well documented it makes people who call us Bungie fanboys look like Microsoft bots.
Just dropped in to say.. frank o’ Conner LOOKS like a dude who doesn’t know what he’s doing
Something kinda cathartic about listening to this while playing Halo
343 literally was the worst thing to happen to Halo and it shows for almost a decade
If you ever make a 343 Vs The World Part 2, it should just be an hour long video of a black screen to represent how much content Halo Infinite has....
As one of many who loved Halo in the 2000’s, this shit is so damn depressing.
Man at 46:29 seeing everyone around that table and they are all in charge of halo, while you can PLAINLY see, that NONE of them actually like Halo, is disheartening and super sad...
I think 343 just doesn’t understand the character & story development that made Halo so great.
The Halo games weren’t supposed to be about Master Chiefs character development.
*You* were supposed to be the chief, and through witnessing events first hand, *you* develop as the main character.
Think about Halo Reach as well, was the story about Noble 6 and his character development???
Nope
It was about humanities character development through the events that unfolded.
Noble 6 and the Masterchief are vessels to a larger story.
That’s why Noble 6 had only like 6 lines of dialogue in the whole game too.
343 just doesn’t understand this, that’s why people hate the story of halo 4, 5, and the TV show.
They’re focusing on trying to make the the universe revolve around Chief. Everything is happening because of Master Chief.
But Bungie understood that, the better story was if chief revolved around the universe.
They said “what if chief witnessed the greatest story of all time?”
343 said “what if chief was the greatest story of all time”
But nobody really cares about 1 guy as much as we care about humanity and the universe as a whole.
We’re clearly seeing here which formula was better and more entertaining.
Bungies formula grew Halo into a story that was world renowned.
343’s formula is arguably shrinking the fan-base…
Thank you! Try telling that to a 343 fanboy and they'll throw in the nostalgia card and dismiss it as "Bungie good, 343 bad"
Halo was about trying to survive an alien invasion
To be honest the second they said Infinite would be a “Master Chief story” I just went “Oh…”
Funny thing is they haven't developed Chief's character, he is exactly the same only he talks more now. Seeing as they repeatedly fail or choose not to connect Halo 4 to 5 and 5 to infinite with any kind of coherent narrative arc. The universe is indeed revolving around Master Chief, but he's just walking around in circles chasing after Cortana-Jesus who dies and gets resurrected every game now.
Kind of hilariously, given how much of a mess it was, Halo 4 was actually 343's best spiritual continuation of the franchise, largely because the UNSC is actually a thing that exists and has evolved in H4. Halo 4 is the only 343 Title that has the main character (humanity) progress and the only one that has character development for Chief and Cortana's relationship. Also the only 343 game to have a completely original soundtrack, that the composers absolutely nailed. It's just a shame that everything else about the game was a horrendous atrocity that I can only assume was intended to be an assault on the senses.
343 are west coast Americans who think whining and crying = character development
"There's still time."
Man, it's been a decade, if they haven't figured it out in 10 whole years, I think time's up and I'm done hoping for something to go right.
No sense giving them more chances, it's the same words playing to the same ideas time and time again only to end up providing a half baked, underwhelming product you regret paying for in the long run.
People: "What's your favorite movie?"
Me:
343 has managed to do it community dirty 4 consecutive times without skipping a beat. I cannot believe that nothing has been done about it.
Halo infinite was the title that officially has me done with the franchise. Perfectly content to keep replaying CE - Reach on repeat. Seriously. I never have gotten bored of them
Have to agree. Sad the franchise has come to this level of laziness
Sad part is Infinite is so much fun. Even with desync if they had just given us content at least by month 2 we would be enjoying more of what it has to offer
@@ajmk2845 I agree I love the online I just want more maps or more playlists. MCC it is.
@NeonBlkRager the engine is good but nah dude it was Doomed to fail from the start. Did you not see their pathetic launch? They had only TWO PLAYLISTS. Ranked and quickplay.....Bungie WOULD NEVER.....the maps are also GOD AWFUL. Bungie would blow their brains out if they saw the boring and stale maps 343 made. Keep in mind this halo has LESS MAPS THAN HALO 2 did at launch and had Twice the development time and budget.
I think I'm done now too man. This video really put everything into perspective for me and I realized that there is so little hope for this franchise in the hands of 343. Infinite is such a failure and no matter what they do to fix it won't change how they squandered their time in the spotlight.
2:23 I used to deliver Jimmy John's to that 343 office lmao. That's their old office in Kirkland, WA. They had a life-size Master Chief Statue right in the lobby, and at their other office a few blocks away, they had a life-sized ODST.
Oh, and I've totally parked in that Chief of the Week spot while delivering Jimmy John's lmao.
haha. hell yeah. hats off to you, man!
Well Marco, I think it's about time for Part 2 baby!!!!!
Back to this after COOP split screen got scrapped.
the more things change, the more they stay the same.