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How Easy is it to move a boiler? We had to walk away from this one!
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2023
- How easy is it to move a boiler? Moving a boiler from one position to another
See how moving this Worcester Bosch boiler is done from moving a boiler flue, moving the boiler pipework, relocating the electrics and rewiring the salus controls.
The boiler location originally was preventing maintenance of the boiler and the magnetic system filter and inaccessible for service.
Normally a job like this should be straight forward enough but on this one we had
problems
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Oh there's a part 2,ok.
Sometimes you just need to walk away and come back the next day with fresh eyes and it will go well. Lee
100% mate, amount of times I’ve had lads call me stuck on a job and when you go to help it all just comes together with a fresh set of eyes 👍
I'm a retired spark a few months ago I had a lighting job a light on a landing i was trying to work out how it was wired up i couple get my head around it so came back next morning and everything just came to me what to do oh was i glad to see that one through
What a day day one was! I have had days where nothing goes right, where everything you touch goes wrong. I could feel it all and hear it in your voice, days like these make you want to cry. Looking forward to day two. It looks very neat and tidy, like a pro. ❤
Thanks Paul, yeah was just one of those days mate to be honest that we all have but we all have them and get through them 👍
Your work is better than 90% of stuff I see mate! Just the fact your getting frustrated shows you care. It looked an awkward job you did well. I get those days where I feel like throwing the tools across the room 😂 so your aren’t alone
Yep been a few jobs where the spanners nearly gone through the wall 😂😂 cheers mate appreciate the support 👍
After 40yrs of plumbing I have had lots of days like this. I know exactly how you were feeling.
This is why , we always used to stop for tea when we got to the job and always stopped at break time, and if we were going to be late we had another 10mins break. Now we rush everything never stopping for breaks
Few extra breaks on this one might have helped out and walking away earlier, I am guilty of working through lunch and non stop most days
Oh my god! I have just got to the bit where you've picked up the floor boards and identified the pipes, I would have walked away and never come back. I wouldn't have done it in the first place. I feel so sorry for you. I'm going to continue watching it now. Deep breath...... ❤
Not a trader but been a diyer for over 40 years and done alsorts over the years, had many days when everything is just a struggle. Saying that it's easier to do a lot of things nowadays than 40 years ago. Cheers good job and its nice to see a tradesman that takes pride in his work.
Thanks mate much appreciated 👍
Top work bud I've had week's like this some people just don't see the amount of shit we have to go through to get jobs done chin up bud keep it real 😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍😎👍
Thanks mate definitely got better of me for some reason this job on that day 😅👍
Chin up Luke, we all have days like this, more so during silly season when we got other jobs on our minds too. Nice work on the boiler relocation 👍🏾
Thanks mate, was one of them days where everything just seemed to drag but tomorrow is a new day as they say, sometimes best just to walk out and come back with a fresh head 👍
I think everyone in most professions have days like this. My GP has had years like this!! A very professional job. Don't be hard on yourself
Appreciate the support mate thank you
Thanks for posting Luke. Today’s been a shitter for me as well. Keep posting the good and the bad mate. We are only human. 👍👍
Thanks Paul, I think the bad is better than the good as it just shows what plumbing is, problem solving and most of the time stuff does go wrong
Neat job👍 I'm not GSR, I work in maintenance for a hotel chain. Called out to blocked toilet. Convinced myself blockage was in a horizontal run near the pan. Took the pan out (pan connector went 90° left) No blockage. Decided blockage was in another room. Gave up, called the jettting lads, plugged pan connector with a towel as now cheesed off/knackered. Went home. Called out again to massive flood of s..t. Blockage on floor below had held then gallons of sewage from above had forced my towel out. Probably could all have been done better, but these things happen 😅
Wow that a good one, we definitely all have off days 👍👍
Hi Your far to hard on yourself
I've 40 years in the job and you should be proud of your dedication.
What you've posted is fabulous work.
Your dedication to your customers will continue to provide you with plenty of work.
Do stick with your soldering unless you have issues with hot permit re Commercial properties.
Very impressed and enjoy watching your content.
Thanks mate appreciated 👍👍
We all have days like this. Too much running through our heads of jobs we've done, quotes to be carried out, upcoming jobs. All whilst carrying out work to the best of our abilities. That was a cracking job you left bud.
Feels like your juggling so many balls running a business sometimes, cheers mate appreciate the support 👍
Yep, I agree with the other comments, we all get the bad days, but an excellent neat job. You could try a bit of Hardybacker board for your soldering, it works a treat and you can cut bits to fit into all those dodgy areas, no heat goes through it.
Nice tip mate appreciated. Definitely a off day but unfortunately it carried on this week, was just one of them 😅
Beat me to it. It takes up zero space on the van and is 100% effective. I also use Yorkshire fittings on everything I can, it cuts down time with the heat, as soon as it’s ready the solder runs, no more time required ( extra 10 secs to add solder and wipe I know, but sometimes crucial in tricky areas ) to keep the temp in the joint up.
I’m a commercial guy, getting Mrs Smiths heating back on isn’t a priority for me. I’m domestic/commercial registered, but avoid houses as best as I can, usually it’s a domestic boiler as part of a commercial property, ie a caretakers house in a school etc.
You seem to want to do a 💯great job, ignore this install, it won’t define you. Rushing against the clock is always a recipe for disaster 😢
Like that idea too, as those insulation mats are not exactly cheap!
Totally helps your videos mate I just passed an intensive plumbing course and my head went for 1 1/2weeks during the practical nothing went right , a few simple supposed hour jobs out in the real world went pear shaped airlocks that wouldn't budge , leaks that wouldn't stop , now half way through my gas course more pain incoming
Thanks mate, there’s always something with plumbing to send your blood pressure sky high 😂 wouldn’t change my career now thou, been 18 years qualified and loved it 👍👍
I'm a DIYer. The pipework at the start looked a complete mess and credit to you for doing a neat job. I just wondered why you fitted the pipework through some flooring. Wouldn't it have been easier to pipe-up first and box in after? Especially based upon the untidy previous work.
I refitted our bathroom in 97 with yorkshire joints and a heat gun. Push fit was unproven and expensive back then. It was a steep learning curve with lots of frustration!
Those days when what you want to do bad what actually happens. Fair play you kept going. That's all that counts in the end. 👍💪🏼
Cheers mate appreciate the support 👍
It's brilliant to see a video of when it goes tits up. Rather of just the best bits. As gas engineers we all have those days. Would definitely recommend a press gun. Something I seem to use more and more. The only downside is the fittings are massive and more expensive.
I do like showing the bad side or when stuff goes wrong as that’s what can happen, had days like that before…I think I’m going to have to give press some serious thought now, thanks for the support Matt 👍
Great work mate we all have off days your a credit to your trade👍🇬🇧
We've all had them day's, and i give you credit for documenting. This is how we learn
Thanks mate appreciate the support 👍
We have all had days like this, best to leave and fight another day. Cracking video.
Press Fit, all i ever see is press fit leaks! Constantly fixing leaks, stick with solder fittings.
Thanks mate, no press gun as of yet, done a few more jobs soldering and been absolutely fine, breezed through an install other day no problems 👍
We all have them days, I got the novapress last year from plumbingforless on Black Friday 👌id hang on for that, the Metabo core drill is a bit of a beast and not too expensive pair it with the Bosch coredrill dust attachment for your hoover that sticks to the wall 👍👍
Thanks for the advice mate, Bosch core drill hoover attachment i definitely want to get, will have a look see what deals are coming up for core drills and maybe a press gun 👍
Top man. More patience than me. That level is next level and must pay for itself many times over.
Thanks mate 👍
My every day is like this work hard play hard. Everyday has a new problem to solve, where's the fun in doing same thing day in day out with no issues. That's why we became plumbers in the first place 🙃
Very true mate be boring if it was a side fill valve replacements and tap changes 😂👍
I love soldering. Its a dying art and takes skill, keep doing it. Might take a little bit longer but looks so much neater. Looks tidy that from what ive seen
That’s Steve, just one of them days I think 👍
If soldering is a dying art then what I was taught with he Gas board must be an antique art. Doing rolled and wiped joints with lead, that really does take skill to get it right, not to mention branch joints which were a complete PITA. Also the bending like query joints. Now with Speedfit anyone can be a plumber or so they think.
@@thegrumpygamer3081I’m only 31 but was taught by an old NE gas board fitter. He taught me to do lead joints don’t know why but I’m glad he did.
I remember learning how to solder/sweat copper to lead and use my moleskin. Today i hate soldering and see pushfit as wonderfull.
I don't see any 60 yr old+ pressfits that still hold water...😉
Great job - think you’ve done well 👍
Thanks mate 👍
Always better the next day pal, it’s when that tiredness kicks in unfortunately
Lovely job you’ve done there 👍🏻
Cheers mate, appreciated 👍
Dude I feel your pain ...... but solder will outlast you . Dude pull the bends into the jig. Save your sanitity 😂. Your a trooper. Keep at it 💪
Cheers mate much appreciated 🙌👍
Keeping going my son don't worry about it
Cheers mate appreciate the support, just uploaded part 2 👍
Don't beat yourself up.Everyone has an off day.Should have the drill serviced use as a back up. Keep up the good work.
It’s been a great drill so might be worth keeping it as back up, thanks for the support, was just one of them days 👍
I moved a boiler for a builder once for an extension he was building...it didn't end well so I'll never do it again. The flue was rotten in the wall, the jig was bent and twisted, and the formed elbows needed replacing....by the time I'd finished it would have been easier to fit new
Yeah I’ve looked at some and just refused ain’t worth the hassle, to move them they have to be decent make and under 10 years other than that won’t survive or just be an absolute pain 👍
When soldering I found it don’t need a high flame turn it down until you get that whistling sound no scorching and far more control over the solder less runs and if it’s non potable use lead , lower melting point and don’t run as much.
well done on an awkward job 👏👏👍👍
Cracking job mate 👍
Thanks mate 👍
Yes, sometimes you feel like youre treading in water for weeks on end. However much of that stress and situation is felt by my subbies.
Following or even working with builders is a minefield. Best to be the main contractor.
Definitely felt like it that week! Yes I don’t work for many builders to be honest only 2 at the moment that I’ve known for years
Looks like a quality job to me. If I get frustrated just walk away, 10 times easier the next morning. You wouldn’t get me up a ladder at that angle though, you’ll come a cropper be careful.
Thanks mate, yeah it was steeper than I though in hindsight scaffold would of been better, cost more but cost less than a broken ankle!
Nice insight
Thanks mate 👍
We're not robots everyone has a bad day. Don't beat yourself up and fair play to showing the reality of life as a plumber. Lot of guys on social media would like you to think they're perfect.
Thanks mate, yeah as I said I was in 2 minds if to post or not but I think it’s important people know the real world isn’t perfect, We have off days…to be honest I’ve had a bad week 😂 been doing a conversion and that felt like I wasn’t 100%
We all recognise when we have a bad day but establishing what the cause was, to prevent it happening again is the most important thing. I will raise my head above the parapet and expect to be flamed and say this, you could help yourself by spending more time on the planning aspect - even to the point of writing a list of the ‘order of battle’ and when it comes to pipework concentrating on completing each home run rather than hopping from one run to another. But at the end of the day we all make mistakes - the man who never made a mistake never made anything.👍
Think that’s sound advice to be honest mate thank you, love that quote you ended with…bad day just gotta move on and learn 👍👍
Braver man than me I probably couldn't fit in that space
Everyone has days when you can’t see the wood for the trees. Another day makes a world of difference.
Absolutely really does 👍
Just seen this one mate, it happens and it is quite upsetting or frustrating. Nice recovery though. Just had one of these last week.
I know this feeling, them days you look at a job and go “how the F*CK has this took me so long” knowing you have a load left to do, get even more frustrated and then everything takes even longer 😂 bloody hate it! We all need bad days so we appreciate the good days when we get a nice easy combie swap, finished by 2pm and go home with a nice profit!
Spot on mate, I’ve changed rads that am simple and it’s took all day, fitted a boiler before 12 and spent all day fixing toilets…plumbings a funny old game 😅
I have been a plumber and heating engineer forty years plus retired from plumbing last year. nice to see good quality young plumber like your self proper tradesman some times people try to hard don't beat your self up we all get bad days just say to yourself I managed to that job and all workerd well feel proud of your self keep up the good work merry Christmas
Thanks mate, have a great Christmas 👍👍
I think is about time one of you gasenginers be brave and bold enough to start using MLCP pipe for boilers save lots time and less fittings you can shape those pipe fairly easily camon lads give it a go
It’s having the equipment to do it, plus if there’s is ever modification to be done not everyone uses it, I can see the benefits of using it thou if it was more common
Man oh man I am sitting here cringing. I was a house basher until 2015 and I felt like I was genuinely losing it. Fortunately for me, my back went big time and it was game over for me, in hindsight, best thing that happened to me C/H is a very hard and horrible job sometimes……I feel your pain mate.
Hi what good a install ,
Thanks mate, Part 2 is up so you can see how it finished 👍
Where did you get the laser level adjustment thing?
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Link in description of that video mate, there’s a code for 20% off…I don’t get no commission from that neither so no bias my end…I’ve had it a while and it’s been sound to be fair 👍
@@bluebulldog_uk Geez 20% off... I think I need it🤣
O! Yeah!!!
Milwaukee care drill is good my friend has a hilti core drill and that is in a league of its own but you need to keep hold as the torque is quite high and the clutch is vicious
Thanks for the advice mate, will take a look. my mate has the dewalt angled drill which is a beast, but it could take your arm off if it snags!
I'm a joiner and I wouldn't of done that, some builder that like 😮
Great video. Not sure where you walked away from it though or did you mean you called it a day when it was late and went home?
Called it a day and went home, should have called it earlier as I was just off the game that day
We've all had them m8, my worst one was cutting in a filling loop on a gas pipe( working on vaillant in the morning and alpha in the afternoon) only thing that saved me was i had the ECV shut.......a very bad day 🤯🤯🤯
Head gone there 😅 yeah happens every now and again but just have to move on 👍
we all have had a bad day.If it was easy everybody would be doing it😂😂😂
That’s very true 😂 👍
eibenstock core drill, and use the blue marcrist core bits, best setup ive ever had
Thanks for advice mate will take a look 👍
I’m retired and I still get days like that
Mate every day is like that for me 😂 I've got press life saver at times
I am seriously considering it now to be honest, going to Phex so might take a look what’s on offer
The amount of times ive left an install after 9pm when everything is going wrong
Feel ur pain mate
It happens don’t it, I remember one didn’t even start piping up till 5pm as it was one thing after another, finished at 10pm that night
There was a little bird visiting you through the condensate hole at 9:11 and latter it showed its displeasure that you stuck a pipe in it an ruined its nesting ideas! If you had noticed it, you might have chilled out. He was having a bad day as well.
I have a Hilti dd100 and it flys through.
We call that 'Ronning out' when one of the lads loses their head usually over nothing and sends the job sideways and ends up with every joint leaking and the flue hole 25mm too low 😂
Never heard that before 😂 but it perfectly describes what happened to me 👍👍
It's also anxiety.
I feel your pain😢
Mate do plumber do much wiring and what is the extent of it can u legally wire to the spur or how does it work 🤔 ?
Did u wire the sockets in the new area or was that a sark and what was the amount of wiring u done on this job specifically?
Anything after fuse spur you can do, wiring I do all my own on systems from combis to systems with undefloor, multiple zones etc
My wiring is 101 basic like wiring a socket and rewirin a light that's bout it how did u learn to wire as much as u do and is wat u do still the basics or is it quite advanced to wire after the fused spur.
BTW excellent vid and sorry bout the questions I'm just shocked at how much a plumb needs to know wen u compare is to a spark or does a spark need to know some plumbin to hahaha I'm confused 😕 😆🤣
Not an easy boiler to fit either so well done.
Thanks Andrew 🙌👍
Mate plumbing never straight forward. Never mind clear your head and come back the next day. It’s still a nice job mate top video thanks 👍🏻
Thanks mate, yeah i should of called it a day a bit sooner than I did as I couldn’t get much right, where as today I’ve just blasted through the work a breeze…funny old game plumbing 👍
Are there any professional plumbers who can tell me where it says either in Manufacturer's instructions or building regs it states that "Push Fit " plumbing does not require clipping? Time and Time again i come across this. and the infamous quote... "It will be alright and I've never had a failure" If you're not clipping push fit then you're not doing the job correctly. Nice to see it was changed to copper.
Press less stress mate, 😊
😂 it does look a lot less stress but you do have to think a lot more ahead, been told it’s a bit of a learning curve but get used to it after a bit
Great vid to show what really happens in a day and life of a plumber. Can I ask what is the story behinds your name blue bulldog? Cheers
Thanks Paul, I’ve got a bulldog names Boris and when I set up I wanted Bulldog heating but it was taken, little bit of market research and apparently a colour and object/animal together is very memorable, if you saw my business nam and didn’t forget it then it’s working 😂👍
100% agree. Out of all the you tubers I watch I always remember yours when we are chatting at work. Keep it up buddy
@@paulgardner3926 cheers mate really appreciate the support 🙌👍
Great video,you want to finish work earlier, 7pm is too late if your starting early aswell, I know you'll want to get so much done,but tomorrow is another day!
Don’t normally comment badly on your videos mate because your works mint that waste at the bottom for the shower could of connected onto that flexi into Mcalpine tee then back out into trap clip the flexi would of worked also Worcester got 250-300 from soffits press tool get a novo press ace 103 small compact powerful goes upto 35mm good little press tool had mine few years now be lost without it
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Why was the condensate hole so big?
My mistake, not thinking wrong attachment then it slipped as it was starting tearing the wall up, not a good day 😫😅
Don’t beat your self up big guy we all have them
Thanks mate, definitely not on my own then 👍
Well, what a "coincidence" that the days when everything goes wrong are usually on the jobs where some blockhead did "it not my problem" thingy :)
9:13 - is that a mice in the condensate hole behind you?
Sounds about right….no I got my mate in to help with condensate and flue outside for couple of hours, it’s his fingers 😂
It looks great mate but I wouldn't be trusting them plastic fittings iv seen the damage that they can cause 😭
I don’t like plastic fitting to be honest I’ve seen them pop a few times as well, I think I hindsight could of got some of them out but the whole upstairs is all plastic right up to the rads
Change the nozzle on your gun to a cool tip alot neater flame thank me latet 🙏👌
I have got a cool tip on now 👍
They are a game changer 🙌
Did you ever try to core damp blocks???? Pain in the testicles 😳
Don’t think I have worst I’ve had old Victorian house, bricks like diamonds, took forever 😅
Get the Milwaukee core drill it won't let you down and it will last years
Very tempted to make the switch to the red and black to be honest
Go home , shower , eat , chill sleep .. get up go to work & grab that boiler & show it who's boss !!
That’s very good advice to be honest 👍 sometimes you do just need to walk away
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@@wittywoo9559 🙌👊 really appreciate the support mate 👍
cheeky pigeon poking through the hole at 9:12 ?
My mate doing the condensate outside, it’s his hand 😅👍👍
@@bluebulldog_uk haha fair enough. Love the content. Keep it up.
@@oldmangreg44 thanks mate 🙌👍
It could have been worse, as you could have fell off that dangerous angled ladder
3:50 No cavity insulation in that wall either?
Yeah there was some there, I thought same but stuck my hand in the cavity and it was like a foam
Mate get a press gun. Novapress aco103. Save yourself stressing and plenty of time. Fittings little bit more expensive but you’ll be home in no time washing your feet in the bath 😁
We all have them days though, you can’t be a Instagram plumber every day perfect solder etc.. real world plumbing
Yeah mate I think I’m going to have to invest at some point now to be honest, had a mare that day 😅
Looks a nightmare job i would have walked in and walked out😢
Wheres the part where you walked away ?
Honesty is the best policy. You tubers sympathise, but these vids are the equivalent of blood and gore as viewing material
I like solder, it takes time yes but it looks so much better. Nown wrong with your work my friend
Thanks mate 👍
Had plenty of days like this ,it's called being human
Well done mate, although you should have taken a mate and it would have been easier for you
My mate came and gave me a Chuck with condensate and flue in end cause I was getting no where, was a bad day thou
Press gun, really big, expensive ,nah
Stick to the solder
If you are that worried about dripping solder,start using Yorkshire fittings
I’ve used Yorkshire in pass but I’m still tempted to run some solder in them every time I’ve used them 😅
The thing is they want to be in and out and paid ASAP, anything that remotely looks like they have to think outside of the box the panic sets in, Plumbers and Mechanics are greedy ba$tards.
Back heal in some push fit man, what’s up with ya? What’s this industry coming too…laser condense pipe install 😔
Did anyone else see the mouse in the condensate hole at time approx 10:00-10:15????
Had my mate come and help me with flue and condensate…think it’s his fingers you see 😅👍
You might be right but still you should take a peek and see.
Don’t work too hard need someone to help you. It’s a lot of work to move a boiler on your own. Take it from a plumber heating engineer of 45 years. Good job though.
I did try and take someone on but didn’t work out, but would be good to have someone helping out on big jobs 👍
Great but please don’t put boiler etc on customers carpet, I use corex sheets about a fiver each. Cheaper and more professional that paying for new carpet.
I think you just plain overworked yourself. There is nothing wrong with your work and you only did the things we all do ( or did in my case..I'm retired). Taking a break and coming back refreshed is so important. Work to your own pace and not the customers, otherwise you just get stressed out, and as you get older it just gets harder to cope with work stress. I know ! Nicely done anyway 👍
Tbh I would have rejected the job.
I feel that moving an existing boiler to a new location is asking for problems.
It wasn’t that old to be honest only 6 years of that
worcster yuk 🤮good work though
Thanks 👍
40 years I did jnstalling had many days like this just keeps going, big no 4 press fittings atick with solder m8 cheap an reliable.
My best day was my last, no more aches an pain in the arse customers.
Goodluck gmgas