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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- I got an opportunity to talk to Drew McCoy who runs the channel Genetically Modified Skeptic!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:57 - Journey into atheism
05:51 - Homeschooling
07:06 - Skeptic vs. Atheist
08:10 - Drew's inspirations
10:47 - Was Drew's tone of speech a conscious choice?
14:30 - How has Atheism evolved on youtube?
19:14 - The LGBT community in the atheist space
23:23 - Women in the atheist space
25:29 - Faithless Forum
27:48 - Other communities in the atheist space
29:42 - Satanic temple
35:42 - Whataboutery in Drew's comments
38:16 - Thoughts on Hinduism
40:21 - Hindu Festivals
41:25 - My thoughts on Hinduism
44:06 - Alternative Medicine from India
45:08 - Any plans of coming to India
48:42 - Humour in Drew's scripts
53:04 - Drew's favorite youtubers
57:37 - Misinformation in India
1:00:34 - Is Drew Optimistic or Pessimistic?
1:02:36 - Ayurveda
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Probably one of the best unexpected collab I ever saw.
50% people guessed in the community post poll. I too kind of guessed when i read atheist.
Lovely conversation. Thanks for this.
I watch your videos vimoh
You are doing excellent work 🙌
What a crossover! Love to see it #teamatheist
WOW MY IDOL IS HERE
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Your account name is midlife crisis how’s, being an atheist treating you
This Man is so well spoken. It's truly a joy to listen to the conversation. Thanks for this, Pranav.
Agreed!
@@scienceisdope bhaiye kya ap video kuch term ke upr bana skte h like agnostic atheist pantheist etc ko explain krte hue
thanks
😊
As an atheist I can say
" An uncomfortable truth is better than a Comforting Lie"
Not everyone is christian because theyre depressed that life has no meaning... there are logical arguments for gods existence...
While I believe that those who hold faith in different religions should be allowed to believe in their respective faith. What are these evidences that you mentioned? I am not trying to undermine your statement, just curious.
Btw I agree with you that not everyone is religious because they are depressed. But religion is meant to give purpose and that simply cannot be denied. If you truly just believed in god(s) then you wouldn't have a predetermined set of rules or principles to follow that each religion has. For instance Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Jain etc.... you would just believe in their existence and follow your own morals and principles. A religion is a group of individuals that believe in the same god with the same set of rules almost unchanginge. Their are many types sure but in a particular locality or (around the world) its mostl unchanged except the subsets will probably be different. @@llamahguy7229
God is non existent is not a truth and it is facts no one knows whether God exists or not
Hey you are an atheist does God fights with you personally?just a doubt.because one of the reasons of me being a theist is not to make god angry.
I have seen many unethical theists in my life but there are many more ethical theists.Also I have observed that atheists are ethical since they advocate for rationality but I have also met an arrogant atheist too. So it seems being atheist or theist have nothing to do with being moral.
Collab that I never expected but needed
when I had newly become an atheist Genetically modified skeptic was the first yt channel that had help me become more critical and how to debunk simple claims made by religious people. Back in the day i only used to follow him after that I slowly started watching other content creators whose content revolves around atheism.
Science is dope is one of those channels that I have seen it growing from the start (og subscriber) and one of those channels that improved my debunking skills.
It feels great to see both of them collab.
For me, it was Phil Hellenes channel. One of the first atheist/skeptic channels I found, probably 10 years ago. That I still highly recommend. All the early athiests recommend him. Not only was he a pioneer. He didn't just go after Christianity, but went after the physical & financial abuses by religion. While also making soothing Docs about the wonder of the universe and our place in it. All while debunking & going after the many YT Christians who're attempting to fleece the many people in physical or financial trouble. Calling them out for their bad behavior.
He's an English gentleman that was heavily active in the early days of the YT atheist genre. While he did debate or debunk many religious apologists, what made him popular back then was being one of the earliest in the atheist genre, creating really unique & high quality scripts & stories that resonate with people.
Being passionate, inspirational, influential, & positive video essays on various topics (similar in presentation style to Exurbia1, who later created video essays) that often explore different but overlapping.topics.
Leaving you with an emotional sense of wonder & awe, while simultaneously giving you an existential crisis.
Some videos might provide you with a new lens to view life, as your ego is challenged about everything you've been reinforced to believe since childhood, including humanity's self important role within the universe, being earth's dominant species, and the long-term legacy & impact of ones individual life when explored thru the scales of deep time & the incomprehensible vastness of the universe.
I highly recommend checking out Phil Hellenes channel (and Exurbia1 also) and start with his essays.
Then maybe move onto his online responses to Christian Apologetics everything from popular Xtian apologetics like William Lane Craig or responding to regular people on the Internet,(All Similar to Aron Ra's or Genetically Modified Skeptics responses to UA-cam Christians posting "10 things Athiests Cant Answer").
He also debunks different supernatural claims & all these new age people trying to keep people from hospitals while selling them magical woo woo objects that can not only cure your cancer, ward of demons, & bring you financial wealth, along with whatever your heart desires (as long as u send the mega-church
$$$ and u must truly believe in Jesus. If your not cured or obtain wealth, then it's your fault. Your faith wasn't strong enough.). So u must send more $$ and believe even harder.
o warding off demons & evil forces from your home.
He hasn't really been active much in yrs, maybe just dropping one video every several years.
though he still has a ton of back catalog, that's timeless and still relevant today.
Great collab and I hope Alex O'Connor is next.
Getting a Collab with Alex would be lot harder I think
@@raktimamchiforthe4thtime445
Alex's cost is way above us PLEBS now.
I'd imagine Alex Charges a higher price by
Day/Hour for a collab.
Just like established Music artists can charge a million dollars, plus charge additional points ontop the album sales so they also make royalties off every album sold.
While up & coming artists will do it for free or at a way lower price for zero points to get attention, established artists won't. Same goes for those on the public speaking circuit, YT Collabs, and other media types.
If I'm not mistaken, Alex has his PHD now? Correct me if I'm wrong, though.
Last I listened to him he was going to a top notch college (Was it Oxford?), and because of his podcast, he was able to meet a lot of top academic people, and could leverage his ability to meet these professors & get letters of recommendation from distinguished people in different fields that all have information that overlaps or relates to Athiesm & Theology
People like Dawkins with Evolution, many theologians, apologists, and others he's networked with, debated with, or just rubbed shoulders with.
Just his videos alone not only show he began educating himself early on in a wide array of educational topics, like philosophy, theology, Math, logic, evolution, physics, neuroscience, and more fields that Theological Apologists try to pull in and sound like God uses these things, rather than nature.
He's either professionally or personally studied these fields, and that's what makes him great in every endeavor he pursues.
He's above us PLEBS now...... Lol.)
a small criticism - Pranav, Keep your footage alongside the guest's footage, so we, viewers, can also see your reactions when they are talking.
Great podcast. Never, not even in my wildest dreams did I think GMSkeptic would be on this channel. Hardwork pays off, pranav !
He did at some points in the video
My two favourite Skeptics in one podcast!!!!!!
Lmao. Had he brought an ex muslim, you would have exploded in anger.
Drew is the only creator who I used to like, even during the days when I was very religious
SID will be a brand in debunking pseudoscience in india ...
It is
It Already is
Who else is doing this in India else?
@@CheakMyViewsItsMoreThen33000 many...
@@CheakMyViewsItsMoreThen33000Brand as in “a big name”
There’s over a billion people in India, it’s not exactly a household name yet
@@CheakMyViewsItsMoreThen33000 According to atheist religion, What is wrong about torture?
Should we ask atheist lenin? And the Cheka files?
@@AtheismPoisonsEverythingatheism isnt a religion- its the lack of belief in one! and the torture thing depends on your moral values... tho most people (myself included) deem it as morally wrong- you don't need religion to have good morals,let alone basic human decency...
thank you so much pranav bhaiya this was an unexpected collab thanks to your channels i learnt about fallacies and how people play with our minds
Epic collab! ❤
My 2 fav youtubers collabing, damn I must be a lucky girl
Great Collab!! Drew was one of the very first atheist channels I started watching and I still love his content.
For me also learning astronomy is biggest reason why i stopped believing in fairy tales.
Really?
Hinduism ancient India ancient Greeks were already versed in astronomy
Galileo Newton were Christians
@@mr.gamerkabir8142your point being?
@@pranavflame that learning science does not mean you will become atheist or science preaches atheism
@@mr.gamerkabir8142 scientific knowledge has advanced a lot since ancient India, ancient Greece, etc. and there is a very strong correlation between being scientific and being non-religious.
That being said, it is not specific religious beliefs (or specific people) that I have a problem with, it is the general unwillingness to think critically. Beliefs should be malleable. No point in holding onto traditions if they are false or harmful. You should defend many other Indian principles, like atithi devo bhavam. You should defend the diversity of ancient Indian schools of philosophy. What you shouldn't do is blindly stick to traditions/beliefs/superstitions even if they contradict modern science.
Like, you can think of ancient Indian epics and myths (Ramayana, Mahabharata, all the other minor myths, etc.) as fables. You can think of Bhagavad Gita as a philosophical treatise. You can treat our festivals as a celebration of human values, rather than the worship of non-existent deities.
Wow, didn't expect this collaboration! It's like Marvel DC Crossover 👍
Wow, this is something I always knew would eventually happen, but it was so sudden. A pleasant surprise for sure!
As someone from Kerala who grew up with the same role models as you, this is phenomenal.
Hoping to see more 💪💪
Same here. On top of that I worked with Pranav and used to debate on atheism too.
How is everything in Kerala ?
@@VeganSanatani pretty okey I would say. But I wish people had voted out the pathetic communist government.
Yesss LOTS OF LOVE AND SUPPORT ,KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK .#PROUDATHIEST ❤
Yesterday i was watching cosmic skeptic old videos like when he was 13yr old and playing guitar in back lol.
Richard Dawkins next 😅? But seriously, this is a huge collab. I have seen a few videos of Drew and I really his way of explaining or debating as an atheist.
Whatever normie
@@JonathanHeydh-vy4ywliterally nobody asked + nobody cares + people like you are why society and humanity in general has fell off
Neil Tyson
The thing that triggered me was a space documentary series called Cosmos on nat Geo...
It forever changed my view and perspective around n helped me to accept science as a rational belief
I am yet to see the video, but wow! Superb collaboration.
Nice choice Pranav!!
Thanks!
Always loved listening to Drew. One of his videos on hijab was interesting to me. The so called liberals usually go wrong in that. But Drew showed some courage to point out the double standard.
I am so hyped about this collab
I am totally surprised to see him in this channel with you ❤, really a good conversation ❤❤
What a fantastic collaboration!!
Allah is also madarchod isn't he?
Oh wow , I found him when , i first saw his video of how to go to hell in every religion , this is a nice
Collab
Is Alex O'Connor next? :D
You are Atheist
This was a lovely conversation. Also I am glad that you brought up the tonality question. Because that was something I heard criticism for SID. I am glad that you actively try to not do that. Even though it may be very hard not to.
Great episode, Pranav!
Damn proud of you Pranav for such a great collab!!
Two of my favourite youtuber collaborating ❤🥰
Dammmnnn i thought it was rationality rules but genetically modified skeptic 🔥🔥👊 woow
Wonderful collab. That anyone thinks Alex O is not elegant and gracious in his delivery speaks volumes of the other person.
Was looking forward to this one, please bring more such prominent atheists/rationalists, this was so cool
crossover we never asked for but we all deserved.
Never expected this collab
Great collab, love watching both your videos
Didnt expect you to collab with Drew
expect you to*
@@Vader4499 lemme edit it
it was unexpected, both of you are my favorites. i have liked GMS since 3 years
Amazing collab Pranav👍🏻
Didn't expected this Collab 😅.
I found about him from Forrest valkai and now I found you
We going places now ❤️
2 of my favourite youtubers together, hella unexpected
Nice video, love this collab. Just subscribed to your channel my man
Yes !! Collab of two of my favorite youtubers
Damn! I can't believe it! This collab!
Guys, please like this video.
Interesting to hear Richard Dawkins thoughts on lgbtq. Somewhat inconvenient for atheists
I LOVE YOU BOTH! THIS WAS A TREAT!
This was really awesome.
Superrrr, I loved it as I loved all your previous work. You are awesome. Keep doing good research n work...
My two favorite UA-camrs in one interview!!! ❤
As a follower of Sikhism , I find this conversation very interesting. keep it up.
Sikhism is also worst religion
Love the collab!
this was unexpected. Loved it
In places like America you get to choose your own classes from Astronomy to Social Psychology ? Is it ??? Wow !
Our ed-system compared to their ed-system seems to be quite old fashioned... 🤔 What do you think ?
This is a whole new religion going on this channel
Damn let's goooo
Great individual to interview! Good job
Great podcast! I would love to see one with Alex O Connor.
Whoa wtf. Pranav so happy for this collab❤❤❤
Congratulations Pranav
Atheists really gonna have hard time understanding Hinduism. They probably need to invest many years studying it. Even an average practicing Hindu doesn't fully grasp the intricacies of Hinduism.
Here's how it goes:
For a start, if you don't understand how Vedic and post-Vedic texts have shaped Indian history and Hinduism, then you'll miss the point entirely.
Now, if you start by pointing out superstitions or say embarrassing stuff/bad practices of Hinduism, which mostly come from post Vedic texts, then the goalpost will shift to what many Hindus believe as the heart of Hinduism that is Vedanta, which is deeply philosophical-intellectually stimulating even. Now the thing is, Vedanta has a wide range of subschools such as Advaita, Dvaita, Bhedabheda, etc., studying them would take years. Most of Hindu traditions or temple culture that exist today have their foundational basis in one of these subschools of Vedanta.
If you don't understand how different Vedanta school of thoughts or subschools work, then you'll completely miss out how these philosophies have influenced traditions (and their modern variants) such as Vedism, Vaishnavism, Shaivism, Shaktism, Tantra, Agamas, etc.
If you manage to find out problems in Vedanta, then are 5 more school of thoughts like Vedanta, such as Samkhya, Nyaya, Vaisheshika, Yoga, and Mimansa, each of these have their own traditional history.
Now, if you say it's all bullshit, all religions are essentially the same, then this is where political Hinduism aka Hindutva comes into play.
Political Hinduism has evolved too since it's inception. And just like Hinduism is not like Abrahamic religions, similarly Hindutva is not similar to political Islam and political Christianity. This is another topic in itself.
I really wish to see Indian atheists bring something new to the table instead of following in the footsteps of western atheists. They're gonna fall flat considering Hindutva is on its peak and getting mainstream popularity, possibly acceptance very soon too.
Good luck and may Gods and Goddesses (let me be inclusive here) be with you, Indian atheists! 😉
Well, Astronomy was a key contributing factor in my journey to atheism too
Great video.. You should do something similar with acharya Prashant. I think it will be an interesting conversation
Ooh wow.. he's a gem❤
I think we should not just call ourselves atheist bcoz look atheism is against the beliefs religious people have how it affects the world and ourselves too and telling our story to others might inspire people to stop believing shit happening in their religion so that's what we should be doing bcoz atheism is not happening in a bad way of spreading it so till then it's ok
Best collab
Next Alex O'Connor 😊
Dope
best collab
Please consider making a video on past life regression therapy.
Just the other day I was thinking about when you would collab with him.
2 NEW GEN. LEGENDS ❤
this collab is 🔥
I love your content,I have question not about this topic.
why every topic or subject end with PHD,and why philosophy, philosophy doesn't sound like technical or scientific?
Philosophy is more of personal or logical beliefs than scientific.
Some Philosophy can be science based and some moral based.
Idea of empricism and rationalism are itself philosophical beliefs
Linduism ☕
Tanatan drama ☕
Chuslim ☕
@@thegodbutcher1 chuslam ☕
@@IAMDEMIURGE Yes, All Religion L
@@IAMDEMIURGE 😂
Unexpected but appreciated episode 👍
You earned the respect of council Pranav 🗿 from today you will be called as " 7 th lion of Atheism " 🙏🙏🙏🙏
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Who are other 6
I am religious but i like him
Two of my favorite humans in one frame.. My life is complete 😍🔥
I love these crossover episodes
Hey man, I esteem your efforts to instill a scientific spirit in all of us. GMS is really a great guy and so is Cosmic skeptic. I would strongly recommend you to connect with Babu gogineni from Hyderabad, as you can better relate to the culture and context. Thanks
GMS is my favourite atheist channel
Two of my heros
Pranav, please make a video debunking the myths surrounding Ambubachi mela of the Kamakhya Temple.
My opinion is belief in God is a matter of faith. All these attempts to prove God exists are prone to failure due to various logical fallacies. God is a matter of faith that you treat like an axiom (something without proof) Atheists believe in science a lot but not many seem to say that science itself requires faith. Science is based on math and math is based on axioms ( which at core are statements without proof). One example is gravity when we believe in gravity we rely on observations over years and have a theory of gravity, but then there is an element of faith that we assume that gravitational laws or physical laws don't change with time. That assumption is a matter of faith. Another example is the existence of square root of 2 that has infinite decimal expansion. We believe it exists in math and there is this whole proof using Dedekind cuts. This indirectly assumes the existence of infinity and infinite sets again a matter of faith at the core of mathematics. We make these assumptions so that we can rigorously do calculus and physics relies on it and the whole framework relies on these aspects of faith at the very core. Similarly one can have faith in God as an axiom provided it adds a practical value like being nice to ppl and happy( like calculus in science) as long as it is done in right spirit and doesn't contradict observations and aspects of science. My 2 cents... Any comments?
I kind of agree but not entirely. First math isnt science. Your definition here is a math definition not a science one. Humans communicate using languages but the actual substance of the communication far transcends any limits of the language, that is to say communication uses language as a tool but the languages cant define boundaries of communication (some things that cant be expressed by words are still communicated, i.e they are abstract). That is what math is to science which is same as what language is to communication. Anyways my point being that scientific axioms are things that are self-evident and are thus defined without proof for practical use.
This might get a bit confusing but bear with me.
Let me give an example. If I ask "What is English?", you can tell me its a language. Then I ask "what is a language?". I can tell you that its a set of defined words used for communication. Then I can ask "Whats a word?". You see whats happening? Its a self referential and self evident loop. That is because I cannot define language using a language without the self evident and practical assumption that a language exists in the first place. Thats a scientific axiom.
A thing that exists in a system (English) cannot be proven by something that is a part of/whole of the system (language). Thus to define "English" we have to go out of the system, here that is your conscious perception of things. Since your consciousness is outside the system (language) it can define the system itself.
But science tries to define the very system it is a part of so to come out of that loop they make some self evident statements that are taken as a baseline fact. Comparing this to god is just false equivalence, as no observations made by the "baseline fact" or axiom of god are self evident.
I would like to stress that I absolutely dont have anything against religion or choosing your faith, but saying that believing in science requires an amount of faith comparable to religion is simply incorrect. I do agree that it has practical value in giving people happiness and also providing a basis for morality.
If you still arent convinced by my response remember, science never claims any facts (unlike religion) and when people say stuff like "we know only 1% of knowledge" they forget that scientists are the ones who found that 1% figure in the first place. If science is wrong the first one to accept it will be science itself (it could take some time though). That is because science is not only self-evident but also self-correcting.
I just realized this is the channel I have been looking for for so long... Initially I was turned away from all the Sadhguru bashing and Hindu bashing... but the more I watched them, I realized that I wasn't liking them because you made me question my reality of what is true and untrue.
The concept of false pride that you have explained in one of your other videos, quite succinctly I must add, clearly explains my former predisposition. I have no idea how I believed in this false sense of pride, but kuddos to your work, it helped me change my pov and perception.
So thanks
I think he's talking about shia festival muharram where people harms themselves with sword
DeadSkiN loves science is dope♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Good one guys
Nice Collab ❤❤😊
Kudos bro❤❤❤
Did you block me on your other channel, only because of constructive feedback offered? Not cool.
you gave illogical religious feedback?
@@PrnexistsQualified physics feedback.
@@Prnexists Educated feedback that ignorant audience like you can't catch, because you probably slept through school and bunked college.
@@aashb6637 FIRST OF ALL I DIDNT SEE THE SO CALLED "QUALIFIED PHYSICS" FEEDBACK YOU GAVE (MOST PROBABLY TAKEN FROM SOME RELIGIOUS TEXTBOOKS). AND SECOND, YOUR THIS COMMENT SHOWS HOW EDUCATED YOU ARE. JUST TELL ME HOW CAN SOMEONE KNOW WHAT COMMENT YOU GAVE THAT I REPLY TO?? IS " @Prnexists Qualified physics feedback." ENOUGH TO GIVE YOU A REPLY?
MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE A JOB THAT'S WHY REPLYING TO A 3 DAYS OLD COMMENT. GO GET A JOB!!!. I AM NOT FREE LIKE YOU, I HAVE TO CODE EVERYDAY, LEARN NEW STUFFS LIKE QUANTUM COMPUTING AND MAKING MYSELF FUTURE PROOF WITH NEW AI TOOLS, NOT SITTING FREE LIKE YOU AND SEARCH FOR YOUR USELESS " Qualified physics feedback". GET SOME JOBS!!
@@Prnexistsjealousy.. Hehe