Don't Loan Out Your Guitars To Friends...
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0:12 - The Les Paul Special Tale
0:52 - Extreme Makeover!
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3:45 - Beheaded 50s Les Paul Custom
6:10 - 1960s Gibson Melody Maker (?)
7:52 - Project 1960s Melody Maker
8:42 - Gold Melody Maker w/ Binding
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The melody maker sort of looks like someone made a Telecaster in not a double cut but put melody maker hardware on it. As far as the first guitar someone would be paying to fix the damage they did to that guitar
Some of us old hippies stripped our Gibsons and Fenders down to bare wood back in the '70's.
We wanted to expose that beautiful wood grain. I don't do that any more-LOL!
I loaned my first 7 string to a friend. He said it was stolen from his house (despite his guitar and amp still being there). Did the same thing to 2 other mutual friends, except I ended up seeing the second friend’s 80s Ibanez Destroyer at the local music store. Needless to say he wasn’t a friend much longer
What a crum
How come we ALL know that guy?
@@FUNZO1975 cuz people suck. This happened to me October of 2018, and I didn’t really speak to him until a year ago asking for money to compensate where he agreed and ghosted me. He passed away on June 10th in a motorcycle accident
@@GarthNGuitars scum never lives long
Did you call the cops on that dude?
Yeah, I have “loaned it to a friend” nightmare stories. Not as tragic as the Special, but back in the 80’s I bought a custom Strat from Rudy’s on West 48th in NY. It was destined for heartache from the start. I was a 17 year old fool and gave Rudy all my graduation and summer work money to piece me together an S Style guitar. I foolishly paid him up front and he took forever to put something ultimately random together. After I harassed him enough he threw together something only sort of resembling what I wanted. It was a Koa body, solid chunky rosewood neck, humbuckers and gold hardware!! I never connected with it but I was too young to properly advocate for him rectifying the situation . I foolishly lent it out to a “friend”. By the time I got it back he “improved” it with a 3rd humbucker!!! WTF? I was so ticked that I eventually gave it to my brother as his recording studio guitar. But as the Fates would have it, his studio in Harlem was broken into and that guitar was heisted. I wasn’t sentimentally attached to it but at numerous times since I could have personally benefitted from selling it. I mean solid Koa and solid rosewood,, it was an odd beast… but possibly that neck would have stayed with me. I have a nightmare about a drum set too. I don’t loan out instruments anymore. Rather I might gift someone if I love them and I have something appropriate that I don’t mind letting go. I won’t loan anything anymore that I would like to someday actually get back in good shape.
I 100% agree. I loaned a Gibson Sonex and Peavy amp to a "friend" to practice for church services and he sold them to buy drugs. So, If you bought a white Sonex with a Peavy amp in the Orlando area used, it's stolen and though I lost it in the 80's I still want it back.
I’ve solved this issue by not having any friends…
What are friends?
While I wouldn't let an instrument out of my sight to begin with, if I did and someone returned it like that first one I'd be serving time and their next of kin would be upset with me after I demonstrated the term "axe" most vigorously.
I'd have told that "friend" Hey I want my Les Paul Special back In the same condition it was in when I loaned it to you! either have it professionally restored or buy me a new one! But then again, I probably wouldn't have loaned it out to him.
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AMEN!
Me, too… But I usually watch it 1.25X speed. Is that wrong?
Greetings all
@@johnnyxmusicha,ha...
Me too. I watch the new episode every day at lunch.
I loaned out my Kopy Kat Les Paul Custom to a friend in the mid 70's. He claimed it was stolen from him. Found out later he sold it for drugs. This after saving his life just a year before. His family appreciated that I saved his life, but I guess he didn't. I have never let anyone ever borrow a guitar since.
Had a 68 ES355 let someone who I considered a friend play it they leaned against a wall it fell over hit the concrete floor . Guy didnt even offer to pay to fix it .Sent to Gibson 11mo later got it back and the refinishing had blistered in shipping .Sent it back 7 mos later got it. The neck angle was so far off it never played right my dealer tried to get Gibson to fix it their rep said no . I sworn then (1970) I would never do business with them again. I bought a used couple since then but Gibson never got a dime from me.
Reminds me of what happened to Page’s Dragon guitar. If this happen to me (never leave any of my guitars with anyone anyway) I’d be pissed!
Anyone who would do something like that is not much of a friend. If someone borrows something, they need to return the item in the same shape when they got it. Anything else is totally unacceptable. Personally, I don't loan anything after being burned a few times. If you want to borrow something me, I'll be standing there watching you use it until you are done.
these people were raised by animals for sure. absolutely BUTCHERED that
I am OK with things happening to my guitars WITH MY CONSENT... I'd be so mad at my so called friend if that came back.
Exactly
It’s a good thing I don’t have friends 😎
I'd be pissed if my guitar was lent out,and come back like that!
I lent my very first guitar to a relative - that was 50+ years ago. One day I'm sure she'll return it - LOL.
You have a good attitude, not good to hold a grudge
@@steveparish9210 Well it was only a $5 plywood one after all.
I am retiring from practice not because of Horror stories but because I am getting Old and so are friends that play, but for last 17 years I was the friend when your Guitar , Amp or PA System crashed , was stolen or broke, I would lend them what they needed and many times couldn't afford to replace, many times those friends would buy same piece they borrowed if I would Sell it, and a lot of those times I fixed their broken stuff while they used mine at NO COST. I am in process of building the last of what I have supplies for since I hoarded old Gibson Tim Shaws and More for years which I donate to Charity's serving kids, Seniors or Veterans. Not one person Broke or Damaged a Guitar or Amp, So if I and my friends that play for a living were younger would do it all just the Same
Do not loan out your guitar, the cool car and your sweet woman. There is a common you see and if not to belive so, then do it!
I’ve loaned guitars and amps. Got lucky and didn’t have any damage but it was difficult getting the stuff back. No more Mr. nice guy.
In high school I was in a jam band with another guitarist. He had tons of really nice gear, so he let me borrow one of his Marshall half stacks so I could practice at home. My dad made me take it straight back because he thought something would happen to it. He was probably right.
The only one I allow to touch my guitars is my brother, hes family a fantastic musician, etc. Same with my motorcycles. Anyone else forget it!
Yep! I knew a guy who lent out his SG he never got it back! 😮
Well my friend that I have loaned several of my vintage guitars to has never damaged them, he takes excellent care of them and we swap guitars and amps whenever we want. Sounds like you need experienced musicians as friends who respect you and the instruments. Just putting that out there.
Not every experienced musician is as careful! I think you've just got great friends. I've lent gear to long-time musician friends and have had to write off a case that went missing, had a grillcloth ripped by cat claws and had guitars come back just generally filthy. Never again.
That aged Melody Maker was awesome to look at. Especially the back.
Paul Westerberg of the Replacements used to play a 1955 Gibson Les Paul Special in TV yellow/limed mahogany that he painted dark blue with house paint using a brush and he put "for sale" on it. I always wanted to buy it.
It's a lesson we all learn early on, never lend a guitar to anyone unless you can afford to, or don't care about, losing it. Even the best of friends can make mistakes.
That would've been the end of that friendship. Also possibility of pain.
That '59 Custom is screaming "NOOOO" to me. A broken headstock with stamped ser #, double pure WHITE bobbins, and a no-name tremolo? Hard pass despite the great looking wood grain on the top. Something just isn't right.
Plot twist: Not mentioned in original ad: “This guitar previously owned, played and destroyed by Pete Townshend at the end of the 1975-1976 “The Who By Numbers” tour.” 😂
I’ve leant out two that came back damaged. Headstock snapped off a Hamer Chaparral. Then a camera man on a ladder fell on my vintage Fender lead during a video shoot. Gouged the fuck out of the front and back sides.
Loaned a cheap nylon string to a friend as I had a nicer one. She even reminded me about it once or twice, but I hadn't been playing it. Just considered that I was passing it on for someone else to use. Not sure if I would loan out something I really liked.
Thank you for featuring our train wreck 1959 Gibson Les Paul Custom in your video. It certainly had an interesting life. FYI; it actually started off as a 3 pickup Les Paul Custom Black Beauty.
I played it the other week! I know the new owner, and I'm glad my first 59 experience was with something so unique
@peterbrown818 awesome! The neck pickup alone is worth pure gold!
@@joniJTKM It was definitely an experience!
😂
I once left a harmonica at a friend's house by accident. They took it with them on holiday to Ibiza. It never came back. They did buy me a replacement, so it wasn't that bad.
That's very true, they put a capo on your les Paul and let it sit on there long enough to damage the frets
I loan my PRS 305 to a friend (off the internet no less) for over a year who also worked for the same company I did but in a different location. His only guitar needed work and was out of commission so I lent him one of my PRS for the duration. It survived just fine. But it is always on the understanding that it is only for playing, no mods to be done and if you break it, you buy it.
I loaned out 2 guitars to friends. One guitar 🎸 got stolen 🤬 and the other my friend didn’t like the sound of the pickups and took it to a store to fix as a “surprise to me” 😤 and also as a “surprise to me” decided to strip the finish 😳😱 and left me with the repair bill and an unfinished guitar, because I wasn’t going to pay the cost they wanted to refinish. 🤬
Great 'mystery' video & stories, Austin!
I lent my girlfriend at the time my 71 sg2, she stained it purple and refused to return it insisting I had given it to her
I loaned my 100 watt Marshall stack to a "friend" so he could do a gig. Two days after he returned it I plugged in my guitar and guess what, DEAD! Of course he denied he did it and it took me a month of calling, chasing and finally threatening to hurt him before he handed over the money for the repair.
That red one looked like a Samick Torino conversion
Can it be refinished, or do you just burn it at this point?
I would have freaked out & went to jail for killing him!
Can 100% confirm leading guitars is a bad idea. Lent one to a mate for a gig years ago, never saw it again.
The 1969 and I think 1970 MM was SG styled with the open book headstock. I have the 69, The MM in question looks like it would have been an the open book headstock, but not nesc. the SG body.
That Gibson "custom" job made me cry a little. I do have an Epiphone "Lucille" that has graffiti on the body. I got it new in
2010, but some guy named "BB" wrote his name on the body, spoiling the finish for future generations/owners. It's paint pen, so it's not coming off anytime soon. I should probably just get rid of it. Thanks for the video!
My first LP was a 1961 custom (SG), white with three PAF buckers and the sideway trim..... Dropped a bunch of LSD one night and took the paint off. Pretty mahogany but WTF. That guitar would be worth 20k today
Arghghhh!!
Yeah, years ago I loaned a guitar to a friend of mine ... well we kind of drifted apart and didn't stay in close contact and then he went and died and I didn't find out until like a year later and now I'll never see that guitar again :(
That is a sad tale
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I was going to leave a comment about letting someone "borrow/use" one of my guitars but thankfully it didn't come back in the mess that one did!
Best advice, don't lend your guitar 🎸 to friends OR relatives 😂
OR anyone in The Who
6:36 looks kinda similar to an epiphone wilshire or crestwood or something from that line of guitars
Thanks for all the great videos Trogly
If that custom is a real 59 it seems to be one of the rare 2 pickup custom order. It didnt seem to have a block of wood covering the middle pickup cavity
It has been filled in. Almost invisibly.
Yikes never gonna let that happen
Time to fire up the Woodchipper for his ex-friend!
@@sgt.grinch3299yeah no kidding
$9,000 for the hack job? Not even $9.
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Trust me buying vintage guitars to flip is an absolute nightmare. Easy to lose big unless you know even more than Austin Troggly, because many vintage buyers know every screw of vintage guitars.
I’d loan a friend my guitar. I have quite a few I’d loan. But they all say Squier or Epiphone on them. No Fenders, Gibsons, Guilds or Martins to loan.
Great video! Thanks.
That would be good way to end a friendship.
9k? That’s a dog guitar. Wow. Who would throw 9k away like that.
i gave a buddy a rare purple guitar because his mom died and he wanted it bc his moms fav color was purple, it had gold hardware too, he pawned it.. it had coil split with push pull knobs, crazy wood grain.. he aint my friend no more.
Many years back, I bought a Gibson "The Paul". It had been... well, "rode hard" was an understatement. Somebody had stripped it, cut shapes into the body, and gloop-painted the majority black with the cut-in shapes being painted in bright yellow/green/red. Yikes, I know. Pretty sure none of the electronics were original.
I stripped it down to the wood, got it as close down to smooth around those cut-in shapes as I could without taking it too far down, and put a basic tung oil finish on it to show the walnut off. It was still janky, but at least it looked somewhat like what it used to.
Loaned it to a friend at the time, and a couple of weeks later I get told "So Stands, you're going to want to punch me, and I totally understand it..."
He dropped it, and Gibsons being Gibsons... whomp whomp. There went the headstock. And not all of the splinters were able to be recovered.
My heart drop to my stomach with that 50's special 😢
No longer a friend of mine is how that would end for me.
I would lose my fkn mind if my friend did this and said “you’re welcome.” I’d be taking that to court
What I would like to know is the following: did those people charge the man they took the guitar from for the refinish he hadn't authorized?
I learned that lesson the hard way, I don’t think Anyone would ever want to ask to borrow anything from me, it probably wouldn’t end well!
Does the audio have like a 60 cycle hum toward the end? Like in the voice? lol
only people i would let touch/play my guitars are family or friends who are musicians who know how to treat guitars/instruments but i dont have any of those so no one but me touches them, well actually id let my dad play it n check it out if he wanted to hes not a musician but hes a artist, film maker so he respects tools of the trade n treats them with respect
Excellent!! :-)
Best loaned guitar story is probably when Townes Van Zandt loaned his guitar to Blaze Foley. May not be true but then with those guys, who knows🤔🤗
I wonder if you can see the serial number with UV or Black Light?
Late comment . Nobody touches my 52 Tele, and 68 Les Paul,76 Les Paul goldtop..
How long was that friend in the hospital?
Man I loaned my guitar to my cousin who’s sweat rust strings like you wouldn’t believe. Brand new strings on the thing, he played it and put it back in the case and I checked it and all was good and didn’t touch it for a few months. When I went to go play it the strings were so rusty it looked as if the guitar hadn’t been played in years and left in an attic, the maple fretboard stained by the rust flakes falling off the strings and just pure regret of letting that kid have my guitar for a single day cause I felt bad for him.
Pictures of pictures of guitars.
This is why I pre-emptively have no friends. It's not because I'm fundamentally unlikeable at all.
My friend would have ended up burried in my yard.
Old Melody Makers, Specials and Juniors could be had well into the mid 70's for around $75 at pawn shops and stores. To think people would actually pay for some of this garbage is pretty funny. But hey, it's old.
So… the first on is my Dads! It’s a true story! Have to remember it was the mid to late 60’s and they where in there teens, in garage bands! Lol. It’s a survivor man lol!
Someone woke up and chose violence that day. This is like when Pimp my Ride filled the back of that kids bands van with surfboards and took away his ability to haul his gear or anything. What a mess, and I don't even like Gibsons the thing only has 6 strings wtf?
$20k for a mutilated Les Paul? That's overpriced by about $18k
Melody Makers 😍🤤
I wouldn't know where to begin with what I'd do to that clown if he did that to my guitar. But then I'd never loan out one of my guitars for a guy to take on the road. While I own it I'll be the only one getting the chance to nick or ding it.
"Don't lend your guitar to friends" ask Jimmy Page
Melody Makers used to be budget friendly vintage collectibles. Pity the fool that loans out yard tools, motorcycles, records & musical gear.
It’s not too far fetched of a story. One of Jimmy Page’s guitars was loaned out to a “friend” and when he got it back he said it was ruined by a refinish. I think it was his dragon tele that his “friend” refinished.
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Well I would have called other friends!!!!
So my father has a story about loaning a guitar out to a "friend"...
So, the friend claims that his wife smashed it to a Trillion pieces, but no one really knows, my father says he never seen it after that, nor did he have anything else to do with that "friend".
I don't exactly know the details in how my father reacted to this news, he never told me and I never asked.
(The guitar in question was a 60's Fender Palomino, that belonged to his father (my grandfather)...it would've got handed down to me.
I hate telling this story😢
I loaned a guitar to a friend said he'd have it back in 2 days. Those days pass I go to his parents house on Ruth day and they tell me he moved to his grandma's house he doesn't live here. Then i asked where does she live. They would tell me. So i went to another friend and asked him and he's like yeah I know where his grandma lives.I'm like cool would you show me. My mom bought the guitar I was17 and she told me get it back NOW. So we pulled up to his house I as me if hes home. They go nobody with that name lives here. I used the name I knew him as for years. Then my other friend calls him by another name I've never heard. Thats when I realized this white boy was never truly his friend Or i i would have known his real Mexican name. He comes out of his room and sees me and his eyes get real big. I'm like bro I need my guitar back my mom's on my ass for loan in it out. As he's handingnit to me his grandma says i thought you said you bought that guitar? I'm like no he borrowed it from me whenni was at my house 4 days ago.his grandma just glared at him. She was a straight shooter. Then she says something we were not expecting. She says we are having a party this weekend do you want to come? I've been to Mexican parties my whole life I'm like yes ma'am I'd be honored o come. That weekend was my birthday turning 18. We went there and come to find outnit was a real party party not a family pRty. Live metal band tickets being sold at the front gates keys everything. I got plastered but the thing that tripped me out was the grandma found out it was my birthday and gave me a 10kt gold st micheal pendant and chain.I instantly put it on and thanked her. I've met some very awesome Mexican older folks in my life.
Never loan your guitar or amp to your friend the same way you NEVER have your "friend" keep your girlfriend or wife company while you are away.
NEVER EVER EVER...LEND OUT YOUR GUITAR, YOUR CAR OR YOUR WIFE...RULES TO LIFE...😊😊😊
I'd call it a turd...
I enjoy eating while watching these videos but the abomination they did to that TV yellow made me loose my appetite
Bet that special isn't even the same guitar.
There wouldn’t be enough bullets in my gun.
never trust friends with your beloved gear !!!! lol
2 years ago, loaned my 1978 SG tobacco sunburst to a friend to do some recording. Go to grab a pizza and laid the SG on a coffee table. They get back over an hour later. Drummer or Singer had used MY SG as a coaster cause it was on the coffee table. Cat had knocked the almost empty beer on it over. Dude gets back. Crap! Water ring and beer stain/discoloration. Big time. Carries it home. Only kinda liquid remover he got around the house......rubbing alcohol. He drops it back about two days later. I just lean the gigbag against a chair. Sat there for a few days. Go to put it back in the case.......😳
Looked sorta like a kid dropped their lollipop on a tour of a lent factory. Call him up....let’s say we are no longer friends. A luthier said naptha should get it back to almost good. We’ll see come Sunday.
Never. Don't even ask.
I'll be really honest here I don't let anyone play my les Paul's over a minute or so. Been like that since the 70s. But if I were to lend a friend one of my les Paul's and it came back like that id have whipped his ass! Big time. Interesting video. My take on this video. Guitars are personal. Keep your meat hooks off.