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  • During a tense dinner Kendall Roy (Jeremy Strong) attempts to negotiate a payout from the family company with his father, Logan Roy (Brian Cox). As could have been expected, negotiations quickly turn south.
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  • @hildaenjoyer8862
    @hildaenjoyer8862 Рік тому +2315

    They left out the best part, the bit where he makes his own grandson taste the food incase its poisoned. Terrifying power move that tells you that Logan's ruthlessness is beyond what his kids are capable of. He goes for the throat.

    • @YungM.D.
      @YungM.D. Рік тому +443

      A lot of people mention this as though Logan genuinely thought Kendall would poison him; he knows Kendall wouldn’t, and the Roy’s aren’t exactly a medieval society where poisonings at dinner are common.
      He just did it to play a sick mind game; he does it to psych him out a bit. It’s very twisted and malicious, but no way he genuinely thought the food was poisoned.

    • @Sui_Generis0
      @Sui_Generis0 Рік тому +93

      He was one upping what kendall done already by implying poisoning, essentially carrying on the improv. Brian cox explains this in an interview on HBO UA-cam channel

    • @earnthis1
      @earnthis1 Рік тому

      Yeah, he's a piece of trash...no doubt.

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 Рік тому +42

      @@YungM.D. That said, if my kid was an erratic rehab patient with drug connections and unlimited resources, I'd' probably think twice about eating his food. Especially when I'm blackmailing him with a homicide that I helped cover up for him.

    • @englandsensation
      @englandsensation Рік тому +12

      @@YungM.D. It's crazy how people don't get this.

  • @therogue1542
    @therogue1542 Рік тому +1354

    “Life’s not knights on horseback. It’s a number on a piece of paper; it’s a fight for a knife in the mud.”

    • @thewilliammao
      @thewilliammao Рік тому +92

      Logan speaks as if he know the final levels of Squid Game.

    • @youknowwhoiam2771
      @youknowwhoiam2771 Рік тому +142

      @@thewilliammao Logan would probably be the one to design the Squid Games

    • @ronoccc
      @ronoccc Рік тому +42

      my favourite line in the whole series. and very true of life. logan has the best lines! epic

    • @aidacailar1126
      @aidacailar1126 4 місяці тому +2

      And epic line indeed, but it's so sad he thinks of life in these terms.

    • @Daiin0
      @Daiin0 4 місяці тому +6

      @@ronocccnot really true. Thats just Logan's mindset because he's a hardworking, competitive and a very unforgiving person. Not everyone will can use his logic to life to succeed especially his children

  • @freem8son86
    @freem8son86 Рік тому +1339

    Jesse Armstrong is undoubtedly one of the best writers working today. The way he writes scenes like this is incredible.

    • @secretvanush
      @secretvanush Рік тому +2

      Nah, thats Nic from True Detective.

    • @KilluaZoldyck-ij6lt
      @KilluaZoldyck-ij6lt Рік тому +61

      @@secretvanush Nic hasn't been the same since season 1 tbh

    • @b.g.3073
      @b.g.3073 Рік тому +23

      @@secretvanush
      After Season 1 he's done nothing.

    • @Joel-ik3sz
      @Joel-ik3sz Рік тому +1

      vravo bince

    • @bobbyaxelrod5959
      @bobbyaxelrod5959 10 місяців тому +2

      If you think this is good writing you should stick to being entertained by coloring books

  • @BatmanHQYT
    @BatmanHQYT Рік тому +1231

    Logan really has a sadistic talent for getting under people's skin. He knows exactly what buttons to push to make it hurt the most, and he's fully aware of it. The way he describes the waiter's death to rub the most salt in Kendall's wound, it's just profoundly cruel.

    • @mart4414
      @mart4414 Рік тому +28

      It's his super power, ability to sense any person's weakness and strike first.

    • @wrustria
      @wrustria Рік тому +42

      its called narcissism, narcissists are just really good at manipulating people like that

    • @Nationlivid
      @Nationlivid Рік тому +15

      And the thing is the ease is with which he covered it up is pretty telling to his ability to do so to say the least and his involvement in doing so in the past cough cough cruises to say the most

    • @iorekby
      @iorekby Рік тому +41

      I don't know if it's purely cruel in this case, I think Logan gets triggered at Kendall's obvious hypocrisy: Kendall effectively killed the waiter, Kendall has profited from the Roy fortune more than anyone save Logan, Kendall helped Logan do his dirty work over the years.

    • @YungM.D.
      @YungM.D. Рік тому +18

      @@iorekby I agree. Logan IS cruel/manipulative, but here his cruelty comes from lashing out at his (in his eyes) delusional and ungrateful son trying to grandstand to him

  • @johntravers6223
    @johntravers6223 Рік тому +482

    “I won’t even speak at your memorial.”
    *proceeds to give the best speech at his father’s memorial*

    • @josephham5216
      @josephham5216 8 місяців тому +12

      Do you think he would though if he was divested from the company? When he spoke he still had a chance to be CEO again.

    • @goldengamers937
      @goldengamers937 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@@josephham5216 nah cus originally kendall actually wasnt going to speak at the funeral. Then roman messed up so he had to improvise

    • @timovangalen1589
      @timovangalen1589 Місяць тому

      A totally insincere speech

  • @emmanuelhayd882
    @emmanuelhayd882 Рік тому +987

    "And I am a bad person?"
    The only time in the entire series we see Logan's voice almost break for a second. It did hurt him, and for a man like him that is as close to vulnerable as he would ever be. Legendary acting.

    • @ShaneMichealCupp
      @ShaneMichealCupp Рік тому

      & He is a bad person and he knows it…
      Deflection type gaslighting tactic used by narcissistic types

    • @leonthesleepy
      @leonthesleepy Рік тому +100

      for sure, that was the comment that got to him. the fact that Kendell sees himself above Logan in anyway pisses him off lol.

    • @nadindakirana5650
      @nadindakirana5650 Рік тому +4

      Nah he is fool ruthless

    • @nishit7147
      @nishit7147 Рік тому +17

      another time when the siblings rush him in s3 finale and roman says 'idk dad...love?' logan's voice breaks again in the ensuing dialogue

    • @jackmclean4120
      @jackmclean4120 Рік тому

      I think if Logan let himself realise he was wrong for even one second, he'd completely shatter. Because anybody would, if you wake up one day and realise your news has indirectly contributed to the worsening of climate change, dooming millions, then you'd break.

  • @Youngcasamigos
    @Youngcasamigos Рік тому +1505

    “Oh, you just noticed didn’t you?” Is such an incredible line reading. The series does such a great job of subtly reminding you that the Roy children are actually not fit for this job. Brian Cox and Jeremy Strong are on another planet

    • @heretoschmooze348
      @heretoschmooze348 Рік тому +206

      I really read it as Logan calling Kendall out on the superficial ignorance he has feigned to the business Waystar was always in. Kendall took to a humanitarian and what some would call a hopeless “woke” approach to battling the indecencies of the company, but it was unfounded on the basis of him only purporting those ideologies because it best benefited him in his attempt to win the game. Logan is saying Kendall always knew and only began to care about the malpractice of the company when it best suited him. He pretends to be a white knight fighting for what’s right, but only when it’s the best play he had.

    • @kellym.6777
      @kellym.6777 Рік тому +96

      My interpretation of this is that he was calling out Kendall's sheer hypocrisy. Kendall has been profiting from his father's money, influence and status his whole entire life only to turn around and say the origin of this is evil just like his father is ..while sipping an expensive wine in an Italian castle and asking that said dad pays him 2 billions to leave. In the end which one is it Kendall? Lol! If he meant what he said he would have completely left without any of his dad's money and start from scratch but can he?

    • @TC0901
      @TC0901 Рік тому +29

      @@kellym.6777 Yeah, I'm pretty sure your interpretation is correct. Kendall benefitted from all the bad things Logan Roy has done in politics, society, and the country.

    • @threenumbnuts
      @threenumbnuts Рік тому

      @@kellym.6777 Kendall's definitely out of touch, but the Koch brothers are a cautionary tale to kids who refuse a dirty money inheritance on principle- Koch brothers are actually 2 out of 4 brothers that inherited a company, but after years and years of fighting over who would get control, the other 2 brothers gave up, took a decently-sized payout, and left it in their hands. So the (famous) Koch brothers fund straight-up evil politics, and the (anonymous) Koch brothers have to live with the knowledge that they could have prevented that.

    • @fearless6947
      @fearless6947 Рік тому +2

      @@heretoschmooze348 you might be right but at one point, Logan tried to throw Ken out into the wolves. He tried to get Ken to take the fall for the company. This is why Ken views his father in this way

  • @marinalima3005
    @marinalima3005 Рік тому +295

    the sad thing( but kind of good) is that kendall could’ve twisted the knife talking about Rose when Logan brought up the waiter, but he just isn’t as cruel as Logan, that’s the difference between them

    • @jin6000
      @jin6000 Рік тому +115

      It also just doesn’t occur to him, which is the difference between the two. Logan just DEFAULTS to the most hurtful possible thing.

    • @BM-qn6fg
      @BM-qn6fg Рік тому +31

      I think it was just Logan giving Kendall another much needed reality check. He was responsible for a young man’s death, and then lectures about good and bad.

    • @marinalima3005
      @marinalima3005 Рік тому +42

      @@BM-qn6fg also kendall wasnt lecturing about good and bad. this is the most self awareness he showed till now in s3. The finale shows how he doesn't view himself as good, this was something he stupidly said thinking it could work on Logan, but didn't

    • @vatsalshah3083
      @vatsalshah3083 Рік тому

      you're not a killer - Logan to Kendall

    • @zr3088
      @zr3088 Рік тому +4

      What is rose's back story I don't get it?

  • @AbhishekSingh-si1hv
    @AbhishekSingh-si1hv Рік тому +774

    "Won't even speak at your memorial" and then he had to finally step up at the funeral and give people the other side of his father's story is the reason why Succession is the best piece of work ever produced anywhere, ever.

    • @zainhashmi5292
      @zainhashmi5292 Рік тому +13

      @@eurongreyjoy2both things can be true.

    • @mulemule
      @mulemule Рік тому +5

      You forgot *underrated.* 🙄

    • @someonefromsomewhere1009
      @someonefromsomewhere1009 Рік тому +3

      ​@@eurongreyjoy2He doesn't care about Roman's embarrassment and he never said his dad was a good person but he admits his dad was a brute that bent the world to his will and praises him for doing so.

    • @slackalot3982
      @slackalot3982 Рік тому +18

      @@mulemule Not really underrated. Succession is widely regarded as one of the best shows of the past decade.

    • @mulemule
      @mulemule Рік тому +1

      @@slackalot3982 And a pop fly ... just past the outstretched glove. 😑

  • @chesareroach
    @chesareroach Рік тому +547

    This was a very powerful scene. Top notch acting of the highest caliber.

    • @MrApacis
      @MrApacis Рік тому

      To me it feels like they're reading lines from the paper. Feels unnatural.

    • @finlaylowe7837
      @finlaylowe7837 Рік тому

      @@MrApacis Agreed

    • @JudgeDredd_
      @JudgeDredd_ Рік тому +15

      Nah. They sound like people at their level sound. He’s not talking about giving up his life and not being able to do anything. He’s talking about how 2 billion is taking the L. This is unfathomable for most people to comprehend. It’s so simple yet so dark and deep and they do it well.

    • @andrewstephens5885
      @andrewstephens5885 Рік тому +7

      @@MrApacis throughout the entire series there’s a stilted awkward tone to everyone. Kendall’s cadence especially throughout the series at times when he’s low like this, is choked up and sounds a bit immature tbh. It’s totally okay to not like it but I’m just letting you know it’s intentional, you’re still allowed to not dig it though

    • @lexi6081
      @lexi6081 Рік тому +3

      @@MrApacis don't talk about things you don't understand.

  • @sobri1998
    @sobri1998 Рік тому +207

    Worth noting that literally just before this Logan thought that Kendall might be trying to poison him and gets his OWN GRANDSON to try the food beforehand to see if it was, thus the first line "who do you think I am? You think I want you dead?"
    COLD.

    • @YungM.D.
      @YungM.D. Рік тому +27

      I always interpreted that as Logan playing mind games. He doesn’t really think the food is poisoned. He just wanted to see if Kendall would stop his own son from eating it. He just wanted to put him off with that disturbing image a bit.

    • @Saucin21
      @Saucin21 Рік тому +13

      @@YungM.D. it may or not be, because this isn't the first time Logan and poison have been linked, remember the cupcakes that Shiv and Rome wouldn't eat. It's something he would do or at least the show tells us he isn't beyond it which is why he was extra careful.

    • @Inbraneinthememsane
      @Inbraneinthememsane Рік тому

      Well I would do the same
      And it’s not his real grandson anyway

    • @1993Redemption
      @1993Redemption 11 місяців тому +2

      @YungM.D. but the only scenario where Kendall would stop his son is where he actually did poison the food, hence Logan isn't playing mind games, but taking a ruthless precaution.

    • @MrShahid0072
      @MrShahid0072 7 місяців тому +2

      Logan is playing games in the sense that he wants ken to think that he (Logan) thinks ken might have poisoned the food. Logan knows the food isn't poisoned. That's my interpretation.

  • @antlava8704
    @antlava8704 Рік тому +106

    "maybe I want you close, you can do the mail" 😂😂😂😂

  • @Jiacapo
    @Jiacapo Рік тому +127

    I love how Brian conveys a hint of convincement. He starts buying into what Kendall is saying, becuase at some point he starts saying real life reasons as to why he wants out and that there is a plan (even if he takes 2B from him to start something for himself). But then he starts "you're corrupt, and evil and would do things I wouldn't yada yada bla bla". And at that instant he loses Logan, becuase he is "talking about things he doesn't understand". That is basically a form of Logan saying, "don't judge me without looking at yourself first".
    Very realistic display of a disfunctional father-son discussion/relationship, in that particular scenario.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq Рік тому +637

    Poor Kendall, he always tries to see the best in Logan, oblivious that he's fighting a losing battle. Jeremy strong deserves ALL of the nominations and Emmys for his brilliant performance! 👏🏾♥️🎊

    • @lindablue5504
      @lindablue5504 Рік тому +17

      I was disappointed Jeremy didn't win an individual Emmy!!! He is a Great Actor

    • @lnimical
      @lnimical Рік тому +1

      Everything Kendall has was given to him by Logan. The lifestyle he has was afforded to him due to the complete lack of morals that Logan drives his business empire with. The only reason Kendall sees the world different, is because he was born with everything, while Logal was born with nothing. Kendall is not the hero here. There are no heros in this story.

    • @kellym.6777
      @kellym.6777 Рік тому +7

      You think he tries to see the best in his dad? He's calling him and his money evil in that clip lol!

    • @baaaldur
      @baaaldur Рік тому +5

      @@kellym.6777 Which is just undeniably true lol

    • @iorekby
      @iorekby Рік тому +9

      @@kellym.6777 He's also a massive hypocrite, because Kendall has massively benefitted from that money as much as anyone save Logan, and has actively throughout his adult life worked to help Logan gain more.

  • @karv9445
    @karv9445 Рік тому +100

    People are saying Logan knows how to get under peoples skin, but I think Kendall was the one to get under Logans skin here. He says he's a good guy and that he doesn't want to be like Logan, and then Logan reacts by treating Kendall the way his Aunt and Uncle treated him about Rose, just using that waiter kid instead. As if to say "I'm not a bad person, and even if I am you're just as bad."

    • @DanielMunoz-ni7zz
      @DanielMunoz-ni7zz 11 місяців тому +7

      Okay but the difference is Kendall was way more responsible for the death of the waiter than Logan was for the death of Rose. Kendall’s delusions of him being a good person got under Logan’s skin and he reminded him of who really is. Kendall like his siblings is not good person or the good guy of the story

    • @Eat_Your_Life
      @Eat_Your_Life 16 днів тому

      ​@@DanielMunoz-ni7zz Kendall is not as evil as logan

  • @ccmp18
    @ccmp18 Рік тому +207

    I love the writing and how Logan is able to twist the knife in order to put Kendall down.
    What a masterpiece of writing, performance, cinematography and directing is Succession.

    • @sunnydaze2359
      @sunnydaze2359 Рік тому +13

      It’s amazing. People envy them for their wealth, but, is a single one of them happy ?? It’s just proves money can’t buy you happiness.

  • @callmemarvel298
    @callmemarvel298 Рік тому +644

    This scene is incredible because it shows growth from Kendall and displays the ability of Logan’s power to stun his kids growth - keeping them weak and submissive to him. In reality, a version of this conversation has probably happened between them tons of times. Logan needs his kids to be under his thumb for whatever messed up reason.

    • @ericcolston7760
      @ericcolston7760 Рік тому +37

      In each and every way Logan is teaching these kids life lessons and hard truths about the world and about themselves - especially Kendall. In his own way, Logan is turning Kendall into the killer that he must be.

    • @marcdumont2275
      @marcdumont2275 Рік тому +1

      Subversive or submissive?

    • @callmemarvel298
      @callmemarvel298 Рік тому +3

      @@marcdumont2275 submissive

    • @marinalima3005
      @marinalima3005 Рік тому +11

      I know right!!!! I’m worried about season 4 because Jesse Arstrong has said a couple of times that he doesnt believe people can change… but if Logan’s abuse keep getting him to the ground and he never gets out of trying to please his father… whats the point

    • @callmemarvel298
      @callmemarvel298 Рік тому +12

      @@marinalima3005 yes this is a concern with this story. I do think that Now that the rug has been completely pulled with Logan selling the company, the children have to move on because Logan has no more leverage over them. But maybe I am wrong

  • @alexman378
    @alexman378 3 місяці тому +13

    Here’s my thing about Logan. He really doesn’t pretend he’s something he’s not. Kendall and Ewan pretend like they’re better, all the while extending their bowl for Logan’s money constantly. If they really were, they wouldn’t touch that money and simply leave. But those billions are just too sweet.

  • @ShaneMichealCupp
    @ShaneMichealCupp 10 місяців тому +44

    This is my personal favorite scene in the entire series. You never see Logan and Kendall so raw, and this is maybe Logan at his absolute lowest. Bringing up the accident he knows haunts his son. He could let him out easily, it would be nothing to him at all, but that’s not how Logan operates. He wants his son under his thumb. He wants control over everyone and everything. “We’re out of here.” States it so whimsically like he could care less what Kendall does from here on out, he’s just not giving him what he wants. Why? Because.

  • @kilgoresapothecary4501
    @kilgoresapothecary4501 Рік тому +383

    Greatest show since the sopranos. The father son dynamic is insanely complex and varied, not a soapy moment of redemption at the end of a movie. Logan pulls the father card and judges the son in an instant to quash any thoughts of dissent.

    • @jerimas
      @jerimas Рік тому +26

      100000%. And like in The Sopranos, each scene in Succession is a clinic in writing, directing, and acting.

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 Рік тому +3

      @@jerimas
      Unfortunately, unlike The Sopranos, they

    • @threenumbnuts
      @threenumbnuts Рік тому

      @@alainportant6412 But they've improved on the Sopranos in other ways, namely

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 Рік тому

      @@threenumbnuts The Sopranos could have lasted forever as it was just about guys going about their daily businesses, so the scenario/events was really unimportant here.

    • @duh4895
      @duh4895 Рік тому +3

      Slow down lol

  • @juanestebanpenaprado1455
    @juanestebanpenaprado1455 Рік тому +83

    "I'll be broken when you die" really hits hard now...

  • @originaozz
    @originaozz Рік тому +72

    Revisiting this after the funeral episode made me realize that Kendal finally let go of his self image as the good guy. He knows that he have more of his dad in him and fully embracing it allows Kendal to finally be the leader Logan always wanted him to be. Not necessarily a nice thing, but definitely the first time he's truthful to himself.

  • @michaelpentola7303
    @michaelpentola7303 Рік тому +85

    “You’ve won. Because you’re corrupt - and so is the world.”

    • @tommydowning3481
      @tommydowning3481 11 днів тому

      A killer and a traitor calling other people corrupt. That is not drama, it's comedy gold.

    • @AlexisTheDragon
      @AlexisTheDragon 10 днів тому

      @@tommydowning3481 evil worshipper.

  • @bkimatab
    @bkimatab Рік тому +202

    We finally see Logan openly express his own self-grandiosity.

    • @goatlib2338
      @goatlib2338 Рік тому +11

      And to be fair... Kendall too

    • @grahamroy910
      @grahamroy910 Рік тому +18

      @@goatlib2338 we had seen Kendall talk about how great of a guy he is before. But we had never seen Logan talk straight up about how he is a culturally defining figure in world history. When he says “I’m a great revolutionary” he is literally putting himself up there with like Benjamin Franklin and William Randolph Hearst

    • @vasvas8914
      @vasvas8914 Рік тому +6

      @@grahamroy910 well he is sort of Hearst of modern times

    • @thrace_bot1012
      @thrace_bot1012 2 місяці тому

      No, he is simply serving him a cold and bitter dose of reality - that Kendall Roy's luxury to virtue signal and grandstand is bought from his father's wealth and resourcefulness.

  • @AA-qb7ni
    @AA-qb7ni Рік тому +156

    Such a gripping scene. Probably one of the best episodes of television.

  • @jimmylee9120
    @jimmylee9120 Рік тому +88

    Kendall really came here with the "I'm better than you" attitude and got schooled cause he was working as one of the higher ups of the company for 3 years before the show began. So the "you just noticed did you?" Was such a good line

  • @jimmymurphy898
    @jimmymurphy898 Рік тому +113

    One of the best scenes of the entire series. Jeremy Strong and Brian Cox as these characters are just incredible. This scene gave me goosebumps and I felt so much for Kendall.

  • @isaacchin2298
    @isaacchin2298 Рік тому +19

    "A fight for a knife in the mud..."
    To whoever wrote that 👏

  • @patrickloftus_
    @patrickloftus_ Рік тому +23

    It's tragic to see this show come to an end but something as exquisite as this deserves not to be squeezed for 7 seasons into muck. When something is a work of art it should be left alone for others to view but never touch or alter.

  • @dumemnduka7930
    @dumemnduka7930 Рік тому +180

    Brian Cox deserves the Emmy for this scene.

    • @ChrisCormierTV
      @ChrisCormierTV Рік тому +11

      HE DESERVES ONE FOR HIS ROLE IN THE SHOW!!!!

  • @COfusion43
    @COfusion43 6 місяців тому +20

    For Logan, it’s not about good vs evil; it’s about being the best. In his business, that means being the best at exploiting people’s fears, desires, insecurities, for his own personal gain. And here he makes his point by doing just that to Kendall-expertly exploiting Kendall’s guilt as a negotiating tactic. So good.

  • @candicesibanda3103
    @candicesibanda3103 Рік тому +71

    I’ve read most of the comments about this scene and why Kendall reacted that way and why his dad reacted that way too but did no one else forget what Ken’s mum said Logan likes to kick everything he loves just to see if it will come back that’s why he said the birthday card was a joke which is really true (that was the kick ) but he was caught off guard by Ken’s response on wanting to be done and he could sense this was no bluff and it didn’t surprise that when he was biting back he had tears in his eyes because tho he was being cruel to his son he was angry because the thing he loves the most might not want him anymore ( you can clearly tell even from subtle scenes that out of everything in his life in his own twisted psychotic way he treasures ken the most and so him wanting out of the relationship he only sees betrayal) he was more hurt by this than when ken nearly kicked him out of his own company anyway moral of this when psychopaths love it’s just complicated 😂

    • @meltemruz
      @meltemruz Рік тому +8

      I agree with every word of your comment. I always thought that Kendall was Logan's favorite kid. even if it seems cruel.

    • @BatmanHQYT
      @BatmanHQYT Рік тому +3

      Very well put, but it would be better with punctuation 😂

    • @candicesibanda3103
      @candicesibanda3103 Рік тому

      @@BatmanHQYT let me breathe 😂😂I was just trying to write my thoughts whilst processing them , otherwise I would’ve lost them , forgive me

  • @jackmcmuscles
    @jackmcmuscles Рік тому +15

    I know that saying an actor “disappears into their character” is a tired cliche, but sometimes I really do forget that Kendall isn’t a real person. Jeremy Strong is such a talented dude

  • @milk_cow_blues
    @milk_cow_blues Рік тому +46

    "Life's not knights on horseback. It's a number on a piece of paper. It's a fight for a knife in the mud".
    This hits very hard after knowing how everything ends.
    Lukas and Kendall fighting in the mud. How absurd life is sometimes.

  • @jcs951
    @jcs951 Рік тому +31

    Ken didnt lie...he really was broken at the end of Connor's Wedding.

  • @mikecantreed
    @mikecantreed Рік тому +90

    Both incredible performances. And excellent writing.

  • @raghav3106
    @raghav3106 Рік тому +28

    "A number on a piece of paper. " chills. literally, chills.

  • @ccmp18
    @ccmp18 Рік тому +37

    WITH THIS SCENE, THE BOTH OF THEM NEED TO WIN THAT EMMY, A TIE.... SO PHENOMENAL

  • @S.Saurabh_
    @S.Saurabh_ Рік тому +30

    Despite of everything Kendall did or happened, he was a good guy from the beginning. He tried his best to love his father (got rejected), his mother (got ignored), and truly wanted to be with his siblings.

    • @bradwright9477
      @bradwright9477 Рік тому +1

      He blew it

    • @jerry85g7
      @jerry85g7 Рік тому +9

      He was not a good guy.

    • @liljackypaper
      @liljackypaper Рік тому

      None of them are good people

    • @milosmilosmilos
      @milosmilosmilos Рік тому +3

      Every time he did something objectively good or grownup his ego would take the wheel and run his moral credit to the ground with manic energy, hurting those around him.
      And he never made up for it afterwards.
      He's not a good guy.

    • @ryanneale6501
      @ryanneale6501 8 місяців тому +4

      @@milosmilosmilos He's not a good guy. He's not a bad guy. He is a Roy, who grew up abused, neglected, and mistreated. Just like his siblings. Kendall however made honest efforts to try to be good, even if he ultimately could not manage to. That counts for something.

  • @wanbawmcgraw3022
    @wanbawmcgraw3022 4 місяці тому +6

    This scene is just incredible, and really illustrates how complex Logan Roy is. I do genuinely think he loved his children. But he's clearly experienced enough cruelty and brutality in his life to convince him that the world is simply a cruel and brutal place; and that it's every man for himself. As Kendall points out, he uses this cynical view of life and human beings to make his money; but he wouldn't be a success if there wasn't some truth to it. And as much as he loves his kids, I think he's continuously disappointed and frustrated at their naivety to not see the world in this way; and also their hypocrisy since they're all as amoral as he is, and yet they constantly call him a monster. He still sees them all as children that simply dont 'get it'.
    They’re not ‘serious people’.

  • @Nomoredrama2000
    @Nomoredrama2000 Рік тому +23

    What an insanely powerful scene. My gut was clenched the whole time. And it's all to do with great acting, writing and directing. That's how you do it, people. 👏♥

  • @judejoinville9438
    @judejoinville9438 8 місяців тому +10

    Logan really did want Kendall in the seat

  • @joshkim6329
    @joshkim6329 Рік тому +12

    I think this is one of the best scenes from succession

  • @KoPianoBeautiful
    @KoPianoBeautiful Рік тому +91

    3:54~4:09 gives me shivers. acting at the best historic level

  • @livinthefilm
    @livinthefilm 10 місяців тому +12

    The kid's death simply broke Kendall. He was never the same.

  • @zeezeenu
    @zeezeenu 5 місяців тому +4

    My favorite dialogue in any tv show history ever. So much to uncover. So much truth about life told. I wish they included how Logan checked if the food was poisoned. That added so much to the scene.

  • @Nonaggress
    @Nonaggress Рік тому +8

    "I'll be broken when you die."
    Au contraire Kendall, it seems like that straightened you out for good.

  • @mbag3266
    @mbag3266 Рік тому +64

    Their different acting styles and slight controversy in real life I think fuels these two. This is some of the best acting I've ever seen. They are both riveting

    • @C4RL1NN
      @C4RL1NN Рік тому

      Wait can you explain what issues they have with one another in real life? I didn’t know if this!

    • @GreatSpaceToaster
      @GreatSpaceToaster Рік тому +26

      ​@@C4RL1NN Jeremy Strong is a method actor, and Brian Cox has said a few times that he finds method acting annoying and he worries that Strong's intense approach to acting might take a toll on him eventually. I don't think there's any actual resentment between the two, but I can see how their different professional views can enhance the tension between the two onscreen.

    • @duh4895
      @duh4895 Рік тому +11

      Why are we acting like Brian Cox was taking a dig at Jeremy Strong when he brought up the method acting? Whenever he's brought it up he just mentioned being worried about how he could handle it.

    • @Nonaggress
      @Nonaggress Рік тому +8

      Honestly if I take what I see online at face value, if anything Cox's feelings about Strong might make his Logan more fatherly, not less.

    • @geneparmesan8748
      @geneparmesan8748 Рік тому +6

      @@duh4895 it’s the clickbait article influence. This offhand comment in an interview made the rounds as “Brian Cox SLAMS Jeremy Strong in Interview” and pretty much inserted a more adversarial tone into the whole thing than was ever necessary.

  • @crg750
    @crg750 Рік тому +16

    i gotta say rewatching this in 2023- i used to see Logan as torturing Kendall, the line about keeping him around, and it is part torture, but also i think Logan is trying to push Kendall, to be like him. Be a killer. he wants Kendall to rise up to his level. Logan cant do that like i a normal person with positive reinforcement, he has to try to break down so you'll come back harder. hes a monster of course.

    • @sergiosalazar8702
      @sergiosalazar8702 Рік тому +4

      Agred
      Deep down he always wanted Ken to be his succesor, but he let him down

    • @jimin-ssibangtansmind7230
      @jimin-ssibangtansmind7230 Місяць тому

      Agreed. Also Kendall was the only one who usually took the roll of the beaten dog, until this moment he always wanted to fight back

  • @inessant1559
    @inessant1559 Рік тому +13

    Honestly this is heartbreaking to watch even more now.
    You know that Rose was at the back of his mind as Kendall was calling him evil and such, and so he pulled out the waiter incident.
    The waiter is Kendall's rose.

  • @bakasa3429
    @bakasa3429 Рік тому +35

    Logan is the embodiment of "Don't give people what they want"

  • @d.4280
    @d.4280 Рік тому +219

    This scene is Phenomenal, actually this is the perfect illustration of what is a communcation between a Narcissistic Personality Disorder with Psychopathic profile parent and his child who has empathy. Kendall is making the worst mistake by showing is emotion to his narcissistic dad who doesn’t care. That’s why Kendall will never win, his empathy is seen as his worst weakness from his father. Great actors

    • @ahabmalik7710
      @ahabmalik7710 Рік тому +30

      yes! and kendall has been manic the whole season but after his birthday he started seeing this for how they are and just spoke the truth. it's devastating that Logan says " make your own pile" but never left room for his children to choose separate paths

    • @danlc95
      @danlc95 Рік тому +3

      You have to be all business with a guy like that. My Dad was worse. He didn't play, and if he did, he'd change the rules to make sure he won and made an example of you.
      He would have made a great professional wrestling villain.

    • @andrewchiu6226
      @andrewchiu6226 Рік тому +6

      I would say that both have NPD with Machiavellian traits. As if often the case when you have likely two parents who have NPD (mother seems one too) The father would be a Malignant Narcissist. Kendall would be a Covert Narcissist. Kendall's sadness, except it can be read as a means to seek supply from others . . . such as the audience who buys into said displays and hope "Killer Kendall" (the self image Kendall seeks) comes out. Both gaslight incessantly.

    • @GamesTribeNow
      @GamesTribeNow Рік тому +1

      @@andrewchiu6226 Erm... or they're just complicated people.

    • @andrewchiu6226
      @andrewchiu6226 Рік тому

      @@GamesTribeNow They do fit the profile of the subcategories really well, and also in how they respond and manipulate each other. Kendall doesn't really have empathy for other people - even though he shows well to other people as a tortured soul - and the recent episodes reinforce that.

  • @ffsf739
    @ffsf739 Рік тому +13

    This is high literature. This is high art.

  • @qiweu
    @qiweu 8 місяців тому +6

    I tend to forget how great the dialogues were in this show

  • @jcnom6606
    @jcnom6606 Рік тому +11

    I think Kendall finally understood what Logan was telling him here. This world doesn’t let you always come out looking like a knight in shining armor. You can pretend, or complain, or embrace it.

  • @dawidrzonca1839
    @dawidrzonca1839 Рік тому +7

    Uhuhuhu! That piece of dialog gave me chills! Succesion is great! I'm waiting for more :)

  • @connorm1817
    @connorm1817 Рік тому +214

    Poor guy he just wants a dad lol

    • @Hasan-vu9ex
      @Hasan-vu9ex Рік тому +74

      The phrase "Money can't buy happiness, but I'd much rather cry in a mansion" sums up this show perfectly

    • @texasgogetter04
      @texasgogetter04 Рік тому +20

      If he didn’t have a dad he’d be in prison by now. tough love is so hard to accept these days. He’s a grown man and daddy keeps saving him.

    • @pancakeslayer101
      @pancakeslayer101 Рік тому +40

      ​@@texasgogetter04well there's no way proving that because it's a counter-factual- had he not had Logan as his dad it's difficult determine the degree to which he'd be the same person

    • @joshuaellison6356
      @joshuaellison6356 Рік тому +19

      @@texasgogetter04 If he didn't have Logan as a dad he might not have become a drug addict and gotten into that situation to begin with.

    • @nothajzl
      @nothajzl 9 місяців тому

      I think the point of this show is that all of these people are messed up. It’s just some are more than others. No “good guys” here, just money chasers.

  • @nk-salinger
    @nk-salinger Місяць тому +3

    top 5 moment in the whole show

  • @safiyule3902
    @safiyule3902 Рік тому +9

    revisiting this after ewan and kendall's eulogies.... this show is truly a masterpiece

  • @JoanNin
    @JoanNin Рік тому +36

    one of the best series on HBO

  • @RetroPlayerOne
    @RetroPlayerOne Рік тому +9

    0:13 Logan tried setting him with the old Tony Soprano "How's the boy" line but Kendall didn't fall for it

  • @glorzoglory998
    @glorzoglory998 Рік тому +6

    Came back here to hear Logan say, "life is not knights on horse back. It's a number on a piece of paper. It's a fight for a knife, in the mud." 🥶

  • @oliveiradalbon
    @oliveiradalbon Рік тому +17

    I watched this scene a hundred times. Love it!!!

  • @pierrenc
    @pierrenc 10 місяців тому +12

    I took this scene as probably the first heart to heart (the roy way) father and son conversation in the whole show. Logan wasn’t as ruthless but still cut his son an enormous reality check.

  • @thedeparted1991
    @thedeparted1991 Рік тому +56

    "You've won because you're corrupt and so is the world." you can apply this on any multi billion enterprise nowadays and it would make sense every single time.

  • @inigobantok1579
    @inigobantok1579 Рік тому +17

    And now we know why Logan wouldn't let Kendall go in his ways

  • @knurdyob
    @knurdyob 11 місяців тому +3

    the writing and acting is so good I completely forgot I was just watching a clip on youtube

  • @Fdrc1212
    @Fdrc1212 3 місяці тому +1

    "Don't talk about things you don't understand." This phrase becomes so powerful after the funeral eulogy delivered by Ewan. Logan Roy is such a complex character. And this series is a masterpiece.

  • @dkyk00
    @dkyk00 Рік тому +8

    What's with the clips from last season 8 months after the finale?
    I'm loving it! Keep on posting, HBO

  • @Nationlivid
    @Nationlivid Рік тому +17

    Kendall whips out a triple decker list of demands followed by ‘then I’m a ghost’ 🤣🙌🏻

  • @davewatts6724
    @davewatts6724 8 місяців тому +4

    When writing and acting share the same level of talent

  • @BredToUpset
    @BredToUpset Рік тому +25

    Top 2 scene in the show, plain and simple

  • @starstuff333
    @starstuff333 4 місяці тому +2

    Brian Cox had the best performance in a show of incredible performances

  • @goldenflower3182
    @goldenflower3182 Рік тому +26

    Very strong ‘can’t live with you, can’t live without you’ vibes. Truly interesting that the first piece of advice since ‘you have to be a killer’ is ‘life is not knights on horseback, it’s a fight for a knife in the mud’. Hmm. Fascinating to continue to feed your backstabbing son any advice.

  • @Aksriv100
    @Aksriv100 Рік тому +4

    Just finished binge watching this series I totally love it and eagerly waiting for arrival of S4

  • @varsha953
    @varsha953 Рік тому +6

    Seeing kendall saying, ' I'll be broken when you did after S4 just😢

  • @thelocalstigmatic
    @thelocalstigmatic Рік тому +5

    Everything about this scene is perfect. Top 10 TV scenes of all time for me.

  • @user-in1ez3sj2f
    @user-in1ez3sj2f Рік тому +40

    Best scene in all of the seasons

    • @jamesq5831
      @jamesq5831 Рік тому +3

      this and kendall’s confession

    • @BL-mf3jp
      @BL-mf3jp Рік тому +1

      the season 1 finale end scene beats it IMO

  • @miasen2548
    @miasen2548 Рік тому +87

    can s4 come already ?? 😫

  • @halloween9007
    @halloween9007 Рік тому +8

    Logan doesn't want to 'name' someone. Logan wants his successor to do exactly what he himself would do - take the company. and so far, kendall is the only one who has tried - he just f'd it up.

  • @venomerful
    @venomerful Рік тому +9

    I'll be broken when you die.That was true.

    • @jimmylee9120
      @jimmylee9120 Рік тому

      Was it? He was sad but the next day he used the news to paint Logan as incompetent to boost his own reputation

  • @BatmanHQYT
    @BatmanHQYT Рік тому +5

    The last two episodes of season 3 featured Brian Cox's best work on the show.

  • @liljackypaper
    @liljackypaper Рік тому +10

    Logan is such a f'ing monster.

  • @BirdGang6
    @BirdGang6 10 місяців тому +3

    Jeremy Strong was incredible in this scene, his chemistry with Brian Cox was world class

  • @hermanperez3220
    @hermanperez3220 7 місяців тому +5

    Greatest dramatic series of this decade..

    • @odoylerules03
      @odoylerules03 4 місяці тому +1

      The greatest is Here Comes Honey Boo Boo

    • @hermanperez3220
      @hermanperez3220 4 місяці тому +1

      @@odoylerules03 also true

  • @jamesmansbridge5330
    @jamesmansbridge5330 Рік тому +13

    This conversation between them shows complexity of the father and son relationship they have,Logan was disappointed by Kendall’s suggestion of accepting his defeat by paying him off,I think some part of him actually wanted Kendall to keep going with the crusade at least for Logan,this would be more dignified.Logan Roy was a complicated father.

  • @pianist4jk
    @pianist4jk Рік тому

    This is writing and acting at the absolute top of the field. Insanely good.

  • @johnfake7375
    @johnfake7375 Рік тому +15

    Logan got ticked off the moment Kendall talked about how he was „good“

  • @Glimax
    @Glimax Рік тому +7

    After the funeral this scene is EPIC, so much depth.

  • @bgbills10
    @bgbills10 Рік тому +38

    “Who do you think I am?
    You think I want you dead?
    I’ll be broken when You die!”
    Hits a lil different now!😢
    Long live L to the O-G!

  • @Chillw00
    @Chillw00 Рік тому +20

    Cox would've won an Emmy if he submitted this episode instead of the finale

  • @ajluvzlondon4214
    @ajluvzlondon4214 6 місяців тому +4

    "I f**kin' know things about the world or I wouldn't turn a buck...not necessarily nice things".

  • @noahjackson5099
    @noahjackson5099 5 місяців тому +4

    This is their last real conversation

  • @MillennialRabbi
    @MillennialRabbi 8 місяців тому +3

    In Logan's defense, insulting sometime as evil while asking for $2 Billion isn't ideal

  • @slayerduval1
    @slayerduval1 Місяць тому +2

    "I'm a good person." Kendall's deluded internal struggle his entire life.

  • @jackashmore
    @jackashmore Рік тому +6

    “I don’t want to be you”
    Season 4: ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT

  • @siddharthraghuveeremadaboi2901
    @siddharthraghuveeremadaboi2901 Рік тому +37

    Connor Roy was interested in politics from a very young age.

  • @hifyn
    @hifyn 11 місяців тому +2

    What's the go here at this point? Like does Logan want to keep Ken around just to torture him now. Is Logan still trying to break Ken and shape him into a version of himself. At this point does he still think Ken could be an option as CEO? Tough love? Cruel for the sake of being cruel? Is it Logan just doesn't like being told what to do, Ken says let me out so he makes him stay? So such an incredible scene

  • @AcuraAddicted
    @AcuraAddicted Рік тому +17

    Brian Cox is 76 years old, but he looks almost the same in this movie as he is in "The Long Kiss Goodnight" TWENTY SIX years ago.

    • @vasvas8914
      @vasvas8914 Рік тому

      Like Morgan Freeman, he was always old

    • @simbalesliechoto8663
      @simbalesliechoto8663 Рік тому

      And I'm reminded he plays William Stryker in X-Men 2, the villian responsible for creating Wolverine.

  • @mathieucotton8818
    @mathieucotton8818 Рік тому +1

    One of the best tv shows scene ever. Seriously