The MARTY FRIEDMAN Drama Is F***ing Stupid

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  • Опубліковано 18 вер 2024

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  • @BradleyHallGuitar
    @BradleyHallGuitar  6 місяців тому +28

    🎸 Join Bradley Hall's Guitar School for FREE! 👉 www.patreon.com/bradleyhallguitar

    • @Lord_Eirikur
      @Lord_Eirikur 6 місяців тому +5

      Too expensive for me

    • @chaseadams5037
      @chaseadams5037 6 місяців тому +1

      I do really BIG poo's BRADLEY ✅🤤

  • @younglink309
    @younglink309 6 місяців тому +300

    I met Marty Friedman once I asked him to sign my copy of bravely default for the Nintendo DS. He looked at it and asked me what it was. I asked him if I read correct me that he played guitar on that. He said yes but he doesn't understand how you get music out of this thing. The man didn't know how video games worked I suppose...

    • @Dieqx
      @Dieqx 6 місяців тому +41

      He seems like a maaaajor boomer

    • @Marta1Buck
      @Marta1Buck 6 місяців тому +53

      That's sad and hilarious

    • @yamifriendo612
      @yamifriendo612 6 місяців тому +16

      Side note his work on that game was amazing

    • @younglink309
      @younglink309 6 місяців тому +24

      @@yamifriendo612 I agree. I finished the game and looked up the music credits just to see who was shredding on those tracks. I was amazed to see his name there.

    • @mammoth8558
      @mammoth8558 6 місяців тому +1

      So did he agree to sign it eventually?

  • @LongLiveRockAnRoll
    @LongLiveRockAnRoll 6 місяців тому +177

    Here's the thing. People always say "serve the song" but then act like slow blues licks are the only way to do that. Marty made the conscious decision to play the way he did on Tornado of Souls and we can all agree it enhances the song. Sometimes shredding can serve a song and express feelings like anger, chaos, happiness etc. Slow bends aren't the only way to convey emotions.

    • @richardaaron4454
      @richardaaron4454 6 місяців тому +7

      His solos are written so well for the themes of the songs that he works on. His odd bends are quite signature of his unique leads.

    • @Munkifu
      @Munkifu 6 місяців тому +10

      I feel like I can almost hear what Marty is talking about when I listen to him playing on Tornado. In many parts, it is not about the driving riffs (which are definitely there), I hear melodic lines building out upon each other sort of layering throughout the song. I believe in Marty's quote he was simply saying that he has grown tired of the solo that just takes the key and tempo of the song and vomits out a few flashy taps or bends and then comes right back to the SAME DAMN SONG!! He wants the song to have more life in every part with less repetition. Expand the melody from 1 thing over and over to 4 or more things evolving throughout the song. Marty Effing Genius!

    • @titmusspaultpaul5
      @titmusspaultpaul5 6 місяців тому +1

      Spot on. And that is my second favourite solo of his (first is killing road. It has subtle classical runs that are just amazing at speed and is different from other players).

    • @ExpatZ266
      @ExpatZ266 6 місяців тому

      @@Munkifu This. You nailed it, Marty is an artist AND a musician.
      Lotta musicians seem butthurt about that.

    • @MetalPersonJ
      @MetalPersonJ 5 місяців тому +2

      This is so on point its insane. I feel like every asshole that says "serve the song" is passive aggressively saying, get your lead guitar off my song!

  • @OlaEnglund
    @OlaEnglund 6 місяців тому +109

    So I made my interview, then Guitar World basically sends me evidence that Marty actually said this. So I don't know if Marty was confused or if he just didn't remember saying it, but I felt it was unfair to use my platform if I couldn't get the whole truth and it would become something blown out of proportion. So I decided to just back out of all of this. I don't want to take anyones side in this, it's almost a childish situation.
    And truth be told, what really does it matter that he said that!

    • @ExpatZ266
      @ExpatZ266 6 місяців тому +3

      Not at all and you should post your interview to make that clear.

    • @irishRocker1
      @irishRocker1 6 місяців тому +1

      It's just the trend these days to make some clickbait title. Not saying guitar world did that. I mean the dozens of other articles jumping on the bandwagon. its pretty sad writing an article about an article lol but I'm sure that is what blew this out of proportion. Marty probably did say that but I'm sure it was tongue in cheek, kinda exagerated for effect way of saying what he said later. And that's prob what he meant when he said he didnt say it. he prob meant he didnt say it in the way these copy/paste articles are implying. He said "whatever got printed" cos I dont think he knows exactly what was printed in all these articles and probably just knows what all the drama over it is about. these articles like to just isolate phrases without context etc. He clearly doesnt want guitar solos to die a death but was discussing how standard impactless solo does nothing for a song and people should experiment and be creative. He has always said that in some shape or form througout his career. Dave Mustaine used to say the guitar solo should be like salt and pepper on a song.

    • @azcorazon844
      @azcorazon844 5 місяців тому

      Just post the interview you coward who cares what guitar world sais???

  • @maxjackson5578
    @maxjackson5578 6 місяців тому +451

    Bradley is actually the secret child of when Marty friedmann spent the night with sexy Lars 💀💀💀

    • @scrimpmster
      @scrimpmster 6 місяців тому +17

      By sexy Lars are you talking about Ulrich?

    • @georgoroth
      @georgoroth 6 місяців тому +39

      ​@@scrimpmsteris there any other sexy Lars in this world???

    • @malloryknox6802
      @malloryknox6802 6 місяців тому +28

      "sexy" and "Lars" don't belong in the same sentence

    • @brianrockwell1805
      @brianrockwell1805 6 місяців тому

      @@malloryknox6802have you even SEEN his shiny balding pate? Find me a Marty Friedman that isn’t into that.

    • @Red_Blxxd
      @Red_Blxxd 6 місяців тому +13

      @@malloryknox6802you’re just jealous

  • @kelseyadams7987
    @kelseyadams7987 6 місяців тому +352

    Marty also said that he would rather chew on glass than listen to Jimi Hendrix.

    • @morejulo
      @morejulo 6 місяців тому +132

      Based

    • @TheSteinbitt
      @TheSteinbitt 6 місяців тому +50

      I don’t really disagree. Although some of his covers were good, like all along the watchtower.

    • @FlatChestsAreDelicious
      @FlatChestsAreDelicious 6 місяців тому +50

      Understandable, Hendrix is trash.

    • @egorsozonov7425
      @egorsozonov7425 6 місяців тому +28

      No, Jaco Pastorius is trash. Hendrix is actually good, almost as good as SRV

    • @SvenTviking
      @SvenTviking 6 місяців тому

      @@FlatChestsAreDeliciousyou utter muppet.

  • @chusssMusic
    @chusssMusic 6 місяців тому +8

    I don't think that "sloppy" is an accurate word to describe Marty's playing.

  • @DreamPurpleFloyd
    @DreamPurpleFloyd 6 місяців тому +102

    I think the fact that Marty is often saying weird shit can be attributed to either:
    A. He speaks so much japanese these days that his english is not that precise anymore, and maybe a little dated (he still uses a lot of 90's slang)
    B. His prolonged exposition to Mustainium affected his brain on cellular level, thus making him unable to express himself in non-offensive ways

    • @FPSJesus
      @FPSJesus 6 місяців тому +24

      B. sounds more plausible.

    • @LuisD.Guitar
      @LuisD.Guitar 6 місяців тому +5

      It's an AI written article. the AI screwed it all up, he never said that.

    • @lukeboutte4857
      @lukeboutte4857 6 місяців тому +12

      Dave is actually very eloquent with his speaking. Niceness is subjective and Dave is typically more concerned with what he finds to be evidently true, rather than worry about people’s feelings. Megadeth has always been about calling out the bullshit. So I think the first option is more likely.

    • @TomJakobW
      @TomJakobW 6 місяців тому +6

      @@lukeboutte4857 riiight..

    • @johnhareiel5118
      @johnhareiel5118 5 місяців тому +5

      I currently play in a band with a Dave Mustaine wannabe (attitude) and now I'm thinking about quitting said band for the 3rd time remembering why I quit playing with jerk *ss

  • @brandonjackson5865
    @brandonjackson5865 6 місяців тому +81

    I wouldn’t ever describe Marty as sloppy, but especially when he was in Megadeth and they would play live sometimes they were flying. Nick would get excited and the were going so fast by the time it got to Marty’s lead break no way he was fitting everything into the solo version, he had different ways he would simply his parts at break neck speed. I think the way he grabs the wrong note and bends it to make sense is part of his brilliance . He is very old school in the sense that hey it’s rock n roll it was never meant to be perfect.

    • @somethingbl
      @somethingbl 6 місяців тому +4

      I wouldn't call Marty or Alexi sloppy. They aren't Jimmy Page.

    • @JayLee-od8ob
      @JayLee-od8ob 6 місяців тому +3

      Marty always made it work. He's a great musician not just a guitar player.

    • @brandonjackson5865
      @brandonjackson5865 6 місяців тому +8

      @@somethingbl no maybe they aren’t the modern technical virtuosos but honestly a lot of those guys don’t do much for me. Chris Broderick is a fantastic player but he just didn’t convey the danger and emotion of Friedman, Friedman builds and releases tension in his solo’s better than any horror movie director could ever do lol . He makes you think he’s going to come off the rails or never make it from where he’s at to where you anticipate he needs to end up at but he always does, he’s taking you for a ride and knows what he’s doing.

    • @cowbutt6
      @cowbutt6 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@somethingblIf anything, I think Mustaine was the "sloppy" lead player in Megadeth, relatively speaking.
      Personally, I've always favoured the sloppier, wilder soloists (e.g. Adrian Smith) over the cleaner (e.g. Dave Murray) ones.

    • @smudge1619
      @smudge1619 5 місяців тому

      ​@brandonjackson5865 nailed it. Mart has the tension and release sounding like he's just about to not make the beat but he always makes it

  • @slayerfern
    @slayerfern 6 місяців тому +95

    In a video with Ola he denied having said that. He said the article was created by an AI. Although then Ola deleted the video and uploaded a new one without Marty's part. Ola says at the beginning of this new video that he removed Marty's part because she got new information (without giving any details). It seems to me that Ola doesn't want to be involved in a dispute between Marty and Guitar World.

    • @donnienarco144
      @donnienarco144 6 місяців тому +17

      Smart af move on Ola's part hahahah

    • @ChainsawChristmas
      @ChainsawChristmas 6 місяців тому +1

      That's why the beginning of this video included the segment where Ola explains removing that portion of his video. Your comment is unnecessary at best.

    • @slayerfern
      @slayerfern 6 місяців тому +11

      @@ChainsawChristmas If my comment is unnecessary, why are you REPEATING what I ALREADY said? READ it AGAIN. READ COMPLETELY what the other person said before complaining. And NOTICE that my first comment is NOT edited. It seems to me that it is YOUR comment that is unnecessary

  • @SamaelVR
    @SamaelVR 6 місяців тому +44

    I’d always rather have solos than breakdowns in metal. Exactly how many people feel about a modern solo is how I feel about breakdowns: They’re all the same. Many ways to make a solo interesting such as harmonizing something that isn’t so basic and playing that live, or just being unique which I imagine many modern metal players struggle to do when it comes to soloing

    • @TheAuthorStudios
      @TheAuthorStudios 6 місяців тому +9

      i feel like modern metal just all sounds the same in gneeral, not just breakdowns or solos but the entire genera
      Which is kind of the ineivtable end result of a scene that creates a new subgenera for every little thing, eventually the only way to stick true to one genre is to do the same thing over and over again.

    • @Forgetmenot-y1f
      @Forgetmenot-y1f 6 місяців тому +1

      This!!

    • @MetalPersonJ
      @MetalPersonJ 6 місяців тому

      breakdowns are fucking cancer

    • @SamaelVR
      @SamaelVR 6 місяців тому +3

      @@TheAuthorStudios Yeah, it's probably why I like old technical playing rather than new technical playing. Paul Gilbert, Testament etc. 80's stuff had a distinct sound not just in the tone but what people actually did that wasn't just hard to be hard.
      Also stuff to be said about tonality if you pay attention to Brendon Small of Dethklok, he seems to use a lot of stuff that is/mimics vintage stuff for the Dethklok sound which is fascinating to me.

    • @dickthehead1145
      @dickthehead1145 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@TheAuthorStudiosmodern mainstream metal, there's plenty of incredible stuff out there.

  • @gianalfredo
    @gianalfredo 6 місяців тому +39

    The guitar solos in pop and ballads (love songs) made the genre somewhat listenable. Ballads also seem to have a super thick bass tone.

  • @greglane334
    @greglane334 6 місяців тому +10

    I'll never understand why people get so upset over someone else's opinion.

    • @tommyapocalypse6096
      @tommyapocalypse6096 6 місяців тому +2

      HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT?!?! YOU SHOULD, AND PROBABLY NEED TO BE CANCELLED!!
      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Employee00765
      @Employee00765 5 місяців тому

      You're allowed to have an opinion....as long as it is the same as mine!!

  • @ryanbobadilla2527
    @ryanbobadilla2527 6 місяців тому +10

    Honestly the fact this became an issue with people really shows there is really nothing going amongst the guitar playing community.

  • @theastrocosmonaut
    @theastrocosmonaut 6 місяців тому +24

    Isn't this what Kirk Hammett used to say between the Load and St Anger era?

    • @andysalter7192
      @andysalter7192 6 місяців тому +1

      Nope.......

    • @newme1589
      @newme1589 5 місяців тому +4

      He said he didn't want to play classic solos, but i think he said to cope with the fact that the rest of the boys wanted no solos.

  • @thedr.zeroultrazone984
    @thedr.zeroultrazone984 6 місяців тому +80

    Bradley, I wanted to tell you something as a teacher myself. I've made a few comments that I think you may have construed as being rude or somehow putting you down. I don't know if that's true, but if it is, I didn't mean to sound the way. I've been teaching as long as you've been playing and my old student of 3 yeas Marc Columbo won a 2010 Revolver Golden God award for Most Metal athlete presented in person by Dave Mustaine and my old friend Joe Nunez who actually recorded drums on a couple of my songs got asked to join Slayer in 2002 and played for Soulfly for 12 years. What I wanted tho say is you're really perceptive and make very intelligent observations and I think if you really worked at it and tried a lot of different ideas playing 'outside of the box' as they say like Marty, you could develop a style of your own as unique as his. You have to really go out of your way to experiment, but it is feasible for you. You already have tge chops it's a matter of experimenting and trying intervals and what not that are more non-traditional and unexpected. I think that's what makes Marty stand out so much.

    • @thyggs
      @thyggs 6 місяців тому +1

      This reads like it was written by low budget ai. If your teaching is as good as your writing then I can see how having to point out youve been teaching music longer than someone has been playing is adding value to the conversation.

    • @thedr.zeroultrazone984
      @thedr.zeroultrazone984 6 місяців тому +2

      Thanks man, appreciate that.@@thyggs

    • @Debbie-e2e
      @Debbie-e2e 6 місяців тому +3

      Soulfly is still kick ass.....I wish max would of done more with the nail bomb project even if it was with different collaborators....that's what metal needs a meat and potatoes aggressive industrial metal project.

    • @thedr.zeroultrazone984
      @thedr.zeroultrazone984 6 місяців тому

      I actually didn't even know about Nailbomb but I just checked out Point Blank - thanks and agreed.@@Debbie-e2e

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 6 місяців тому +16

    Bradley grooving to Lionel Richie was something I can't say I was anticipating haha. I very much take to the "guitar solos should be more common in pop music" idea, where the concept of "serving the song" needs to be considered WAY more heavily on. This being said, I do think every kind of guitar solo from every context, 8-bar pattern or not, will eventually find its place with the right music. Long live the guitar solo \m/

  • @MCHiphopotamus
    @MCHiphopotamus 6 місяців тому +65

    All depends on the genre. But if we talk about accessible music with vocals, the solo, if any, should serve the purpose of the song.
    If not, fuck it.

  • @ShaneT5S
    @ShaneT5S 6 місяців тому +8

    I totally got it from the first article, and I definitely see why he moved to Japan and fell in love with the music there. I’ve been into Japanese music for a few years now and it feels very fresh again, compared to, the biggest bands especially, a lot of music in North America

  • @brendankane1190
    @brendankane1190 6 місяців тому +3

    My favourite Marty moment was his appearance on Ditigal Tour Bus, "My family is here. My sister and her kids. Actually, these aren't her kids, I've got hot chicks like this around me all the time." You can see what he was going for, but he didn't articulate it amazingly well. We love you though Marty!

  • @BradleyHallGuitar
    @BradleyHallGuitar  6 місяців тому +18

    What do you guys make of this? Is Marty right??

    • @AnthonyThings
      @AnthonyThings 6 місяців тому +3

      si

    • @caseyjazz7256
      @caseyjazz7256 6 місяців тому +6

      Yeah he is right. Even though I have no idea wtf he was on about. It's Marty fucking Friedman m8.

    • @c.g.vonhagenstein7576
      @c.g.vonhagenstein7576 6 місяців тому

      @@caseyjazz7256
      We would also have accepted:
      - MMF - Muthrfcking Marty Freidman
      - MMF - Marty Muthrfcking Freidman
      and
      - MFMF - Marty fcking Freidman muthrfckrs!
      😂 Cheers m8

    • @stevemuzak8526
      @stevemuzak8526 6 місяців тому +3

      100% right. Guitar Gods are always right.

    • @JayLee-od8ob
      @JayLee-od8ob 6 місяців тому

      Was Lemmy handsome?

  • @Rukiman_no16
    @Rukiman_no16 6 місяців тому +6

    The fact that Marty praised Ichika Nito must be blowing some boomer's head right now.

    • @Jamaramlolz
      @Jamaramlolz 5 місяців тому +2

      Both Ichika and Mancuso are the future of electric guitar, really. Makes perfect sense to me that Marty would have nice things to say about them.

    • @naturalianoss
      @naturalianoss 5 місяців тому

      He will praise anything that sells and makes good money .If you get my point…

    • @naturalianoss
      @naturalianoss 5 місяців тому

      @@Jamaramlolzyeah sure…future😂

  • @saltyapostle44
    @saltyapostle44 6 місяців тому +23

    I agree. I have no interest in listening to 8 or 16 bars of music stuck in a song for no reason other than "it's supposed to have a solo."

  • @jishwah1889
    @jishwah1889 6 місяців тому +9

    I was listening to a podcast about film and other various things (Open Bar) and one of the guys close to Hollywood said that writers use ChatGPT AI to enhance their scripts. They will have a fully written, completed scene and direct the AI to "take the scene and make it slightly different" and they'll use ChatGPT's "version" almost like notes from a peer to enhance the scene they already wrote.
    That's just my two cents on AI, so it's very possible that "journalists" (liberal use of air quotes) use AI to "enhance" their articles.

    • @creamwobbly
      @creamwobbly 6 місяців тому +2

      That's something it can be good at. It's absolute shit for generating something from scratch.
      The other areas where it's useful is in the computer vision field for spotting defects, flagging potential tumours, that type of thing. Better success rate than a frycook Boeing QA person or an overworked surgeon.

    • @dan_kay
      @dan_kay 6 місяців тому +1

      Journalist here with more than 25 years of local newspaper experience under my belt: Why would I use a software that is inferior to humans on so many levels? The output of ChatGPT may satisfy amateurs, but I don't know a single professional who would use that crap in a live publication. It's just not there yet.

    • @jishwah1889
      @jishwah1889 6 місяців тому

      @@dan_kay it's inferior in some ways but vastly superior in others. You'd be surprised how "smart" it can be. But I agree with you for the most part, humans have context and nuance which is lost on AI

  • @Space_Equestrian
    @Space_Equestrian 6 місяців тому +3

    I always wondered why are songs structured the way they are (Verse/chorus/verse/chorus/solo/chorus) when there are so many other ways you can make a song.
    One of my favorite songs from last year is "Towers of Gold" by Sacred Outcry which is a 15 min long Power-Metal song with no verse, no chorus, its just new section after new section telling a story, and its AMAZING!

  • @lautaroraya3141
    @lautaroraya3141 6 місяців тому +16

    Have you heard his new song? It really brings me back to Scenes.

    • @BradleyHallGuitar
      @BradleyHallGuitar  6 місяців тому +6

      Yeah it's super cool!

    • @idk9637
      @idk9637 6 місяців тому

      Im so excited for the new album

  • @ricp123
    @ricp123 6 місяців тому +4

    As a sh1t guitarist, I've already adopted this stance.

  • @putridabomination
    @putridabomination 6 місяців тому +6

    is it really drama because it looked like he was talking about the generic image of guitar solos, not the artsy fartsy melodic technical and or progressive wanky side of solos
    If anything it's just an opinion

  • @tomasjonsson7141
    @tomasjonsson7141 6 місяців тому +5

    Bradley beanz guitar school i never heard about it 💀💀💀

  • @luistijerina
    @luistijerina 6 місяців тому +2

    I don’t think the big sites are doing it, but I have seen those AI driven Facebook posts that will create clickbait headlines and quote an article that may be recent or may be years old and then will market it towards people who have that band in their interests.
    Now, the big sites might not be using AI but they clearly are exploiting clickbait and are contributing to controversies.

  • @idk9637
    @idk9637 6 місяців тому +2

    I hear guitar solos on the radio all the time and all of them are generic shit that nobody would ever cover or have stuck in their head etc. It adds nothing to the song. I see what he was saying if he did say this.

  • @lesterksi4521
    @lesterksi4521 6 місяців тому +2

    Jacob Collier video just out him playing a 5 strings electric completely different tuning and playing. Now that's the future.

    • @HEVELproyectofficial
      @HEVELproyectofficial 6 місяців тому +1

      Open tunings have been a thing since long ago, there is nothing new about it

    • @Jamaramlolz
      @Jamaramlolz 5 місяців тому

      Jacob Collier is cute with his reinvention of the guitar, but that's what works for him. Removing a string and playing in open does not constitute a revolution, and we've all had a friend good at another instrument tune a guitar funny in order to get quick results on an instrument they haven't spent the time to master.

  • @robseppala
    @robseppala 6 місяців тому +2

    thinking....from a perspective of one who started recording on tape way back in the day, you had to be very economical and likely bumped into producers who were counting every inch of tape used, and you've got 8 bars to work your magic. lol...

  • @dreamspheree
    @dreamspheree 6 місяців тому +2

    My home boy jew Friedman. Everyone is just Jew hunting

  • @headless0ptomist198
    @headless0ptomist198 6 місяців тому +1

    All the people that are giving Marty shit forget that Dime and Zakk said something like that almost 20 years ago, they didn't say they hoped it would die a slowly painful death but they did say that they were dying and the were not wrong. Like you said there's is either no solo or the song as a whole seems like it was written around the solo, or solos. Don't get me wrong, I can always appreciate an insanely talented guitar player doing what they do best but just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it over and over agian in every single fucking song.

    • @tommyapocalypse6096
      @tommyapocalypse6096 6 місяців тому

      The context is different: it is the difference between a lamentation and a recommendation.

  • @dan_kay
    @dan_kay 6 місяців тому +1

    I agree with Marty. Guitar players, stay in your lane. We have singers to produce squealing sounds nobody wants to hear.
    Your job is to play power chords and nothing else but power chords since anything beyond that is jazz, and nobody likes jazz.

    • @tommyapocalypse6096
      @tommyapocalypse6096 6 місяців тому

      Unless that jazz is played with power chords. Like Django Rammstein.

  • @JoyzerDk
    @JoyzerDk 6 місяців тому +4

    Check Samantha Fox's Touch Me. Also "heavy" guitars and solo! :D

  • @nathanbrisebois8756
    @nathanbrisebois8756 6 місяців тому +2

    Is this just the same thing when Tim Henson made the boomer bend comment? This will blow over by next week

    • @Jamaramlolz
      @Jamaramlolz 5 місяців тому

      I think even that was more important

  • @BenMemd
    @BenMemd 6 місяців тому +20

    33 seconds ago is crazy

  • @JLujan4492
    @JLujan4492 6 місяців тому +1

    I know someone who worked at a mainstream news organization, and but she got laid off, and they absolutely use AI to "help" write the articles for nearly every news piece that comes out. I think the policy was that they couldn't have the AI write the entire article, but it could do certain parts. Marty might be partially right on that.

  • @arnieslab
    @arnieslab 6 місяців тому +1

    At first glance I thought the thumbnail was Howard Stern and Stuttering John.

  • @earthpart3
    @earthpart3 6 місяців тому +1

    Serve the song is the best way to put it. When you're writing music you can tell if a solo should be in it or not. No point in forcing them in there

  • @Metalrulz81
    @Metalrulz81 6 місяців тому +1

    6:28 I wouldn't fall in that category, i love solos and mainstream bands like Testament, Exodus and Anthrax (especially their newer material) has some amazing solos, especially Skolnik continues to come up with some incredible solos.

  • @lippi2171
    @lippi2171 6 місяців тому +7

    To be completely honest, the fact that a statement about guitar solos causes such a controversy, proves that people are well-off enough to be able to worry about such things. We should be thankful lol

  • @sketmetal
    @sketmetal 4 місяці тому

    The fact that his upcoming Album is called Drama makes the title of this video way more funnier

  • @deadseveredheads
    @deadseveredheads 6 місяців тому

    Editing software was the worst thing to have ever happened to metal.

  • @mikeyhodge6191
    @mikeyhodge6191 6 місяців тому

    Replace the word “solo” with “breakdowns” and everyone freaking out would have been praising this article lol.

  • @Randomjackass135
    @Randomjackass135 6 місяців тому +3

    *band makes white supremacist music*
    Rock UA-cam: “people get so easily offended these days”
    *guy says guitar solos are getting old about 40 years on*
    Rock UA-cam: *edits interviews; makes drama videos*

  • @alessandrociapica5180
    @alessandrociapica5180 6 місяців тому +3

    He's completely right and wrong at the same time 😂

  • @gabrielthornmusic
    @gabrielthornmusic 6 місяців тому

    Martha is always reassuring me why I never liked him or his music.

  • @TheDarkSidePoet
    @TheDarkSidePoet 6 місяців тому

    Dude has a point. Judas Priest's "Firepower" was dope but the solos were so bland and uninspired. They sound like they were ripped straight from traditional 80s metal that we've heard a thousand times.

  • @robwalsh9843
    @robwalsh9843 6 місяців тому +3

    The Kenny G of shredders

  • @ZiddersRooFurry
    @ZiddersRooFurry 6 місяців тому +10

    If you think journalists and 'news' sites, etc don't use AI I have news for you. That's a huge issue. Hbomberguy has a whole video about plagiarism that points out how many so-called 'legitimate' journalists have been caught using AI. There's tons of content on UA-cam generated by it, a lot of it claiming to be 'journalistic'. I wouldn't doubt Marty's comment was taken massively out of context.

    • @bloodleader5
      @bloodleader5 6 місяців тому +1

      I hope you don't think hbomberguy is all that credible himself. The guy has made it very obvious that he has no qualms about slandering people or making things up to support his narrative. He's a propagandist.

    • @Jamaramlolz
      @Jamaramlolz 5 місяців тому

      That description of 'propagandist' applies to every single marketing department, most politically-minded individuals, and three quarters of journalists. Also, who has hbomberguy ever slandered? For it to be slander, it has to be untrue...
      @@bloodleader5

    • @bloodleader5
      @bloodleader5 5 місяців тому

      @@Jamaramlolz "Journalists are all liars and conmen too, so that makes it acceptable to be a liar and a conman!"
      Holy shit what an atrocious attempt at an argument.

  • @llongone2
    @llongone2 6 місяців тому

    Don't forget his "gun metal grey" speech about metal. He's spent his entire career making money off playing metal, then sh*tting on metal in interviews and acting as a glorified pop session musician in Japan.

    • @Jamaramlolz
      @Jamaramlolz 5 місяців тому

      The conflict between metal and a more pop sound has been a big theme throughout Marty's career, so this should come as a surprise only to the uninformed.

  • @bestiaonthedrums
    @bestiaonthedrums 6 місяців тому

    Meanwhile normal people 'what the f&%#k is a guitar solo'?

  • @Treachery93
    @Treachery93 5 місяців тому

    As great as MF is, he doesn't use a trem bar, he doesn't do pinch harmonics and he doesn't tap. Maybe if he incorporates these in some degree while not over doing it in his playing, he will see soloing in a new light.

  • @IamSkyeOrion
    @IamSkyeOrion 6 місяців тому

    I read that article and I completely agree with Marty. He was saying that there was too much emphasis on shred and technicality than there was on melody.

  • @GypsyDanger514
    @GypsyDanger514 6 місяців тому

    That sounds like a statement I would have made when I was in my “death to all but metal” phase. But I was 15/16 then. The traditional guitar solo is why we’re at, where we’re at now.

  • @llamabot9889
    @llamabot9889 6 місяців тому

    There’s no drama, you are the only person on the planet that talks about Friedman

  • @isaacobrien4721
    @isaacobrien4721 6 місяців тому +2

    I think y’all (or at least Bradley) are forgetting something when it comes to Marty not having a way with words: he doesn’t speak English that much anymore. He lives in Japan, his whole band is Japanese, and at this point in any interview I’ve seen with him he’s always forgetting relatively simple and random English words. It’s a secondary language to him at this point and so he’s not gonna be as good at articulating ideas in English than he is in Japanese

  • @ernestmendez5487
    @ernestmendez5487 6 місяців тому +1

    Here's the thing. If you don't actually compose music, you're not going to understand what he means. Every great original song has great melodies. Guitar solos, 95% of the time, sound like noodling on recordings (solos in every genre of music sound and feel so much more full of life in a live setting). Great original music is mostly about melodies. Not soloing. This is why King Diamond is my favorite band ever. So many original melodies. Like 5000% more melodies than almost every other band ever. And they are absolutely fantastic and each one sounds different than the other. And Marty Friedman's music reflects that as well. Although, Marty's melodies aren't nearly as great as King's. That's why Yngwie Malmsteen's music stands head and shoulders above every other rock/metal virtuoso guitar player's. One word. MELODIES. That is why MOZART created the greatest music ever. MELODIES (and they're so astonishingly full of vitality that they all sound like they could be improv). This is why Paco De Lucia and Thelonious Monk and Dick Dale and Elton John and Tom Waits are so iconic. MELODIES. And that's exactly why a band like Polyphia, and a guitarist like Mateo Menusco suck. They're utterly tasteless and do not create melodies. Sure, we can go ahead and talk about pop music, and the cheap catchy melodies, there. But let's take it much further than that. Shall we?

    • @idk9637
      @idk9637 6 місяців тому +1

      Wait how can u say polyphia doesnt have melodies? Have u actually listened to their discography?
      Also u are just wrong. Just because they are not mainstream does not mean they suck wtf. They suck to your ears and the fact any amount of people enjoy their music shows they are not objectively bad. Music is subjective. Baroque music often lacks the simple melodies of classical compositions like mozart. Are u saying bach sucks? I guarantee yngwie and mozart would disagree with that.

    • @ernestmendez5487
      @ernestmendez5487 6 місяців тому +1

      The few songs I've heard of Polyphia are trash for so many reasons. Not just because of their bad melodies. They're simply tasteless. Their tone is horrible. The percussion sounds like a cheap overproduced hip-hop track. And they're totally one-dimensional. More noodling from another virtuoso guitar player that plays guitar way more than he actually listens to music. I can hear it. It's like a writer who doesn't read books. Or like some vacuous podcaster who speaks much more than he thinks.
      And, if you're tone deaf, or if you don't actually play or compose music, I'm sorry. But your opinion is that if a layman because you're just part of the fickle audience. You're not actually thinking about art in a meaningful way. You're just feeling. Judging art requires thinking about method and meaning and philosophy and execution. What it means to be an artist. It's quite like engineering except we aren't limited by science.
      And I play Bach on the piano. I like his music. But his melodies are strained and forgettable. Same with Beethoven. I don't think you quite realize how much greater MOZART is than those two. It's actually ridiculous.
      But anyways, public opinion is merely a prostitute who sells herself to the highest bidder. And if you aren't going to acknowledge the other artists I mentioned, then I'm not afraid to say that you don't know s**t about music. And that, as they say, is that.

    • @idk9637
      @idk9637 6 місяців тому

      @@ernestmendez5487 holy shit u sound miserable to be around

    • @thedragonofthewest5789
      @thedragonofthewest5789 6 місяців тому

      Have you heard Bach's violin concertos sonatas, concerto for two harpsichords,oboe concertos,lute suites?!? Bach's music is full of melody​@@ernestmendez5487

    • @tommyapocalypse6096
      @tommyapocalypse6096 6 місяців тому

      Ya lost me at “King Diamond is my favorite band ever.” Lol
      Just the kind of comment one would expect from a guy who wears a diaper on his face in his profile pic. 😂😂😂

  • @markinthemix6055
    @markinthemix6055 6 місяців тому

    Honestly l could absolutely care LESS what MF says. The Cacophony music and the dueling kings of shred and that’s Marty and the legend Jason Becker will always and forever hold a big part of my heart.

  • @LogioTek
    @LogioTek 6 місяців тому +4

    Not sloppy but "raw".

    • @creamwobbly
      @creamwobbly 6 місяців тому

      Not raw but "sloppy".

    • @LogioTek
      @LogioTek 6 місяців тому

      @@creamwobbly Perhaps spontaneously improvised, without previously practicing and polishing it, sort of like this: ua-cam.com/video/gjlis-dTN9s/v-deo.html (give her a minute before she blows you away). Call it whatever you want, you still have to be a virtuoso to play like that. The same can be said in the case of Marty Friedman.
      Oh and welcome to Japan, where you can find musicians nobody heard of that will blow you away.

  • @themedallostoryteller1105
    @themedallostoryteller1105 5 місяців тому

    I actually agree with Marty
    And I have say that before
    The thing is 98% of guitar players are still in love with traditional rock or metal guitar solos, so there’s no surprise why’s people attacking Marty

  • @tcbcrotmg
    @tcbcrotmg 6 місяців тому +1

    It’s funny how in one of his previous videos, he was making fun of Marty wanting to do a solo😂.

  • @Barushia
    @Barushia 5 місяців тому

    I actually agree with Marty! I would also like to see these clean shredders and lo fi neo rnb rubbish also faces the abyss.

  • @SuiGenerisMan
    @SuiGenerisMan 6 місяців тому

    he's right. Innovation should lead , not solos to solo. It's exactly why "technique rock" blows - his era blows. Marty should listen to Built to Spill.

  • @johnamcclintock1
    @johnamcclintock1 6 місяців тому

    My first reaction was that this is Marty's response to Kirk's recent rantings about solos; albeit possibly stitched up by GW. That said I don't even know who takes GW seriously any more; they could create a list of "best blankets" and still find a way to have Gibson or Fender at the top of the list. I find this sort of "journalism" boring and frustrating. Both guys are pioneers for metal guitar and GW should use them to greaten the guitar scene not stupid "he said, she said" crap like they seem to trot out all the time.

  • @louispeddiltton47
    @louispeddiltton47 6 місяців тому

    Solos are still one of the best parts of music. Idgaf what old man marty's AI says. Or what "new hip (talentless)" bands say. If you can solo, do it! It ROCKS!

  • @fattohead
    @fattohead 6 місяців тому +1

    Marty already answered this issue on Ola's channel. So, the arguments and rumours and gossips are already over .... He's just released his new single, relaxed clean full of beautiful and emotional melodies heard like from his older solo stuff like scenes, introduction or true obsessions.May not suit to most metalheads taste , but isn't rock'n roll is the music of people who don't suit to the societys opinions, so to those conservative metalheads what I'd say is 'fuck you' and your norms🤘🏻

  • @tedmich
    @tedmich 5 місяців тому

    Marty used to love the Dead Boys? He was a Cheetah Chrome fan ??? I did NOT see that coming.

  • @andrewvela9839
    @andrewvela9839 6 місяців тому

    Even the original article still sounds the same to me. He's basically saying that the overdone solos of yesteryear shouldn't be the go-to but a stepping stone to finding your own sound. He's always about telling people to change it up and add something that most wouldn't think of instead of the same old solos following the same formula. He wants musicians to think outside the norm and expand their musical horizons. He's still one of the greats. Rock on Marty.

  • @gotd4m
    @gotd4m 5 місяців тому

    Marty was cool as hell when i met him. If you are chill enough to take a few minutes when some rando walks up to you, you are alright with me.

  • @irishRocker1
    @irishRocker1 6 місяців тому

    Marty is who he is because he has always tried to be creative and different from others in his soloing. It's pretty obvious that the context of what he was saying is that people should try to be creative and not just add generic solos for the sake of impactless generic solos. He would rather a song didnt have a solo than forcing in one that doesnt work or doesnt serve the song. He clearly wasnt saying solos should die off completely. The issue is not so much with guitar world but the dozens of other media outlets who just copy pasted from Guitar world but without any of the context and just printed that he wants guitar solos to die. Did he technically say that? Yes. Is that the message he was actually giving? No, clearly not! Focusing on that one line is so dumb. It's tongue in cheek. If he wanted all guitar solos to just cease to exist, he wouldn't be able to make his own music would he? And Marty does communicate quite well. In the Rick Beato interview for example he said some great things adn Rick was blown away. And I think in this case the message was quite good but just copy/paste click bait titles lose all context and meaning.

  • @kimonmatara1350
    @kimonmatara1350 6 місяців тому

    Challenging cliches and existing 'forms' is what artists are supposed to do. So the statement makes sense in that context.

  • @tommyapocalypse6096
    @tommyapocalypse6096 6 місяців тому

    We definitely need to eliminate those pesky eight bar solos.
    We need to play more five, eleven, thirteen, nineteen and twenty-three bar solos.
    After all, that’s what a “real” guitarist would do, innit?

  • @dylanhutchison8629
    @dylanhutchison8629 6 місяців тому

    Play what you want, how you want, where you want, being too aware of whining musical judgement will inhibit your playing. Play muted notes, listen to Hendrix, ignore the arrogant.

  • @JonMurray
    @JonMurray 6 місяців тому +1

    I truly believe Marty Friedman was beaten down mentally by Lord Megadave and was forced into that rigid way of thinking.

  • @InTheSh8
    @InTheSh8 6 місяців тому

    In music, there are no rules. I think he is not outdated!

  • @MisterMunkki
    @MisterMunkki 6 місяців тому

    "a serious publication" good one

  • @Brigelo-ef5in
    @Brigelo-ef5in 27 днів тому

    Hey, I suppose you know, but grand dad Marty is very active on Rock Fujiyama channel this days.

  • @tommyapocalypse6096
    @tommyapocalypse6096 6 місяців тому

    I wonder how Marty would react to Rock and Roll Rebel. Jake has FIVE solos in that song! To my ears, they all fit the song, showcase Jake’s formidable ability, and stay in one’s head for much longer than the time it takes to hear them.

  • @mhoff7722
    @mhoff7722 5 місяців тому

    I don’t think there’s any drama here. I was over this topic and back to playing 8 bar solos after the chorus as soon as I was done with the article. 😂😂😂 Play what makes you feel good people 🤘🤘🤘

  • @MrDuntus
    @MrDuntus 6 місяців тому

    The statement “you don’t have to reinvent the wheel every time”is crazy. That may mislead your audience to believe what you’re doing with a guitar is anything like what Marty Friedman does with the instrument and I say that with absolutely no ill intent.To me the difference is you are playing/writing for the purpose of advertising The instrument itself to an audience, rather than creating to display the talent,skill, or technical prowess you probably possess on the instrument. The path of the Marty’s in the world demands that all possible iterations of the wheel must be expressed and observed, and then yes, reinvented.

  • @ThomasTheWise2103
    @ThomasTheWise2103 6 місяців тому +5

    This... This is just... Bruh

    • @puffballbk2186
      @puffballbk2186 6 місяців тому +1

      Omg stop being such a drama queen 😢

  • @wretchedslippage3255
    @wretchedslippage3255 6 місяців тому

    I love a solo but when every fucking song on an album has one, even if theyre all good, it honestly does annoy me. A solo for solo sake aint good.

  • @BillyTheKidsGhost
    @BillyTheKidsGhost 6 місяців тому

    ''I love AI UA-cam thumbnails. They never have the same vibe.''😄

  • @CynHicks
    @CynHicks 6 місяців тому +1

    Drama and Marty is like oil and water. 😅

  • @space_kat1
    @space_kat1 6 місяців тому

    god forbid a famous guitarist has an opinion

  • @tomy8339
    @tomy8339 6 місяців тому

    No way for the traditional guitar solo to die! If anything, it should be brought back. A guitar or other solo makes a song more interesting and complete.

  • @c.g.vonhagenstein7576
    @c.g.vonhagenstein7576 6 місяців тому +4

    Meanwhile...
    My guitar friend: "Soo... how many bars *should* our guitar solos last then?"
    Me: "Yes"
    j/k of course. I don't feel like this should really be a controversial thing. As Master Hall says, I just think Marty struggled a bit in clearly stating his points. It's just a composition thing. And he has MORE than earned his right to have any opinion he wants to have. I listen to, and play, a lot of purely instrumental guitar across a plethora of genres (I also just wanted an excuse to say "plethora"). Per my joke, for some of what I listen to, you could almost argue that most of the song IS a guitar solo. Not quite since you need the guitar to shut up every now and then (please put away your pitchforks) and let the other instruments say a thing or two. Like Bradley points out, I think Marty is just weary of the same-old same-old song structures and would like to see more varied and unexpected approaches. Nothing wrong with that. Just like there's still nothing wrong with a good ole ripping 8 bar shred-fest. Whatever works for the song as a whole. Cheers.

  • @josephambrecht7133
    @josephambrecht7133 6 місяців тому

    3:33 dude Ai is everywhere now

  • @stevemuzak8526
    @stevemuzak8526 6 місяців тому

    Marty is 100% right. I hate to hear same shit over and over again. We need more creative bands like Animals As Leaders etc.

  • @Jotleri
    @Jotleri 6 місяців тому

    The speaker had originally included a segment about Marty Friedman in their video, but decided to remove it due to misquotes in an article.
    They mention that Friedman is not very articulate and often not good at explaining his thoughts.
    The speaker agrees with Friedman's sentiment that the traditional guitar solo may be dying, but feels his views are outdated.
    The speaker believes that the obligatory eight-bar solo after the second chorus is not a common practice in modern guitar music.
    Friedman had a follow-up interview with Guitar World to expand and clarify his thoughts, where he discussed the importance of finding interesting ways to interpret the existence of a solo.
    The speaker agrees that guitar solos should serve the song and that a good solo is one that the listener enjoys.
    The speaker brings up the idea of intentional "sloppiness" in guitar playing, which they enjoy in both Marty Friedman and Alexi Laiho's playing.
    The speaker mentions new players like Ichika Nito and Mateus Asato who are keeping solos fresh.
    The speaker hopes to see more guitar solos in pop music.
    The speaker understands Friedman's perspective as an older musician who grew up in an era with guitar solos all over the place and has experience as a session player.
    The speaker agrees with Friedman's points about giving a guitar solo purpose and making sure it serves the song.

    • @Jamaramlolz
      @Jamaramlolz 5 місяців тому

      Second artist cited is "Matteo Mancuso" not "Mateus Asato".

  • @blackblurable
    @blackblurable 5 місяців тому

    "Is this an excuse for us bassists to have solos?"
    freaking legend

  • @howardblumenkopf7872
    @howardblumenkopf7872 6 місяців тому

    I was gonna say Maiden still does, but Maiden's songs have multiple solos and they sometimes work in more interesting ways.

  • @lolaarcana
    @lolaarcana 6 місяців тому

    I just think, considering the amount of time he spent around Dave Mustaine, he's probably listened to some proper weird nonsense which may explain the AI comment.

  • @Marcsnowguitar
    @Marcsnowguitar 6 місяців тому

    Another perfect video. Thanks Brad

  • @jonw3462
    @jonw3462 6 місяців тому

    I agree, it did die out.
    Usually guitar solos are more creative or melodic than flashy fast to show of.
    Its like Kirk Hammets interview with Beato when he's talking about how wowed he was that James made a rif of a pull of into a chug and how does he do it.
    These dudes Proly haven't listened to modern metal or new bands on over 20-30 years.
    Kinda like comics not listening to Standup cos they don't want to steal ideas but just being out the loop.

  • @MrROTD
    @MrROTD 5 місяців тому

    Yeah well if he said it for real doesnt matter, maybe music does need to change and evolve like it always has.