I never thought about the real-life stuff they were going through around that time. Now it kind of makes sense why the album sounds the way that it does. Good observation.
Exactly! And because of this, I think St.Anger is one of their best album (I'm dead serious). It's not only the album, it's the context of it. This album is absolutely visceral because of this. The lyrics, the songs, the cover... It's everywhere in it.
@@FrahamenIt's a Lou Reed album because unlike on their other albums Metallica didn't actually write any lyrics on it, they just composed some of the music with Reed.
yo metal magic was pantera's first album, when they were still in high school, produced independently. i can't even hate on that, not like a band that's been around for 20 years churning out slop. pantera's pre power metal stuff is incredibly well produced and you can hear dime's skills and the band chemistry even early on. of course with phil they went even higher...it's just sad how things played out post pantera.
The clansman is amazing, the rest are something a band of the Maiden status shouldnt even consider putting on tape. Sound quality and the other nerd stuff aside, the songs themselves are just boring and bad
@@MysticMungusSlungus No, they don't. Futureal was only played on it's tour and then for a few months in 99 with Dickinson and Adrian, that was 25 years ago. It was never re-recorded with Dickinson.
@@bserdev8407 I grabbed my "Ed Hunter" CD and sure enough, it was just a live version (I don't listen to this album all that much). Could have sworn they re-recorded it with Bruce. Good call.
I think they bordered pop songs with this. Crush em etc... The worst song for me is bread line. And the tragic part is the drums. They just sounded so so predictable. If your going to do some alt music then it's not wise to bang over a cheesy generic rock beat and some blues rock licks...
Blaze Bayley is a very good singer in his own right, but just wasn’t a good fit for Iron Maiden. More importantly he’s seems to be a decent human being caring more about his band mates than his own career (at least based on what I’ve read/heard). IMO the things that killed “Virtual XI” and “X-Factor” were lackluster song writing and the band’s refusal to acknowledge that Blaze was fundamentally different singer than Bruce and adjust their style accordingly.
Virtual XI has some songs that might have been better if not for whatever was unbalanced in the band dynamic. It's not fair to blame it all on Blaze when he did try, had the odd moment and then... gone. What you had was basically a great band, tired the fuck out, trying to get great things from a round shaped singer squeezed into a square shaped singer hole. Some of those songs have since been at least halfway good against the best of the rest of IM's work with a little tweaking and Bruce singing. The X Factor was the better album of the Blaze years overall imo though suffered many of the same core issues. Of course, when you're looking at and comparing to the absolute best of IM and their back catalogue, nothing can beat that consistently and with panache... not even IM since Bruce returned (even though they've remained an amazing live experience far beyond their years)
@@chrisproost7290 I don’t Blaze at all for those albums, I just tried to convey his vocal style wasn’t a good fit for the band, who in turn didn’t seem to do anything to accommodate his style, as you also pointed out. And I agree with you, even the newer albums with Bruce, including Brave New World, while decent rock albums, fail to capture the magic of anything done by the band prior to “No Prayer for the Dying”.
I'm going to make a soft attempt to change your mind on St. Anger. The original album is not good, HOWEVER, I re-recorded it and the reception has been very positive. I cut 20 minutes from the album, that should be intriguing enough for you. 😂 Beneath all the BS, there actually is a good album. If you like bouncy riffs and breakdowns, then St. [b]Anger is a great alternative!
@@arex7559 You still could! What I've learned from the massive influx of comments is that UA-cam doesn't notify you of every comment. Not even UA-cam Studio shows you all of the comments, you gotta go to the video and sort by newest to see everything you've missed. A channel the size of Bradley's is probably insane, so more comments about it might help. I'm glad you liked it enough to recommend it though, thank you!
I listened to St. Banger the other day. While I was blown away by the amount of skill and effort you put into it, I feel St. Anger is the very definition of "you can't polish a turd."
St. Anger isn't good, but it doesn't deserve the hate it gets. It has potential to be good. It needs a lot of tightening up. The songs need to be focused and concise, with better lyrics and solos. But, there are definitely many individual ideas that are really great. I remember buying the C.D. it came with a T-Shirt and a live DVD of them playing the entire album. I happened to listen to the live version a bunch and liked it. It had good energy. Lars was doing some unique drum beats for him. I appreciated the unique time signatures in some songs. And Rob amped up all of it. But, Kirk was doing nothing useful. I know Metallica wouldn't re-record an album, but if they took the approach they do now, it would be a pretty good album. It's a product of broken James, and Jason leaving.
The reason why it works live now is because the band is in a MUCH MUCH better place than when they recorded it. They see the flaws and fixed them live. They COULD re-record them but the internet has already done it, like how people fixed And Justice for All by putting ACTUAL BASS in the songs.
Should do a part 2 with Morbid Angel's "Illud Divinum Insanus", Celtic Frost's "Cold Lake", Cryptocrisy's "The Unspoken King", Suicide Silence 2017 self titled, Machine Head's "Catharsis", Psychosinner (formerly Psychosexual) entire discography, and perhaps not quite metal but adjacent, Chris Cornells' "Scream" & Kid Rock's Bad Reputation. Also should mention Linkin Park's One More Light, which was initially very hated, and would likely still be if it weren't for Chester's passing two months later, resulting in One More Light suddenly being liked and praised by the very same people who were initially dissing the crap out of it
@@chrisproost7290 seems like they were listening to a lot of type o negative and carnivore when recording that . Not the worst I’ve heard but that is a big jump from the technical death metal sound of their previous records
Bread line is the worst for me... Those cheesy 'ooooooooo's' are just too much. Drums and guitar are just pub rock. Truly terrible. Quite like the devil song, dr calling, theres a bonus Jovi type ballad, thought that was great wanderlust? Thing about mustaine he dont write amazing sing along melodies,i think james het does mixed with a more accepted voice tone.
Risk was great. Believe it or not, it was THE album that got me into Megadeth, specifically the song "Time: The Beginning". I love its lyrics, and it makes me think about my age/life whenever I listen to it.
That version of Risk is a remixed and remastered version, where Dave took all the industrial influences out of the album, put back Marty's solos and Ellefson's bass, (which were removed from various songs) and ultimately turned it more into a hard rock album.
I've never heard Pantera's first album either, but it sounding like Kiss mixed with Van Halen makes total sense, the Abbott bros grew up on those bands. It's live how we Pantera fans just collectively decided those early albums don't exist and their first album is Cowboys from Hell :D
I actually really like Virtual XI. Yes, the songs are ridiculously repetitive with abysmally shallow lyrics, but Blaze's voice is awesome and the guitar riffs are stellar. I won't even call it a guilty pleasure, I love that album.
@@user-yn1sf9mq3z That's fair. I like most of the songs on that album, but Angel and the Gambler is an instant skip, I don't know what they were thinking with that one.
@@deoxyribomorph99 yeah. the angel and the gambler is one of maiden's weaker songs, but i think if bruce was singing it, it would be pretty good. i like the solos and the structure of the song, but it is pretty annoying with blaze singing it.
@@user-yn1sf9mq3z I didn't feel like Blaze's voice was the problem, I think the problem was that nobody in the band had the stones to say "Steve, no, you can't repeat the chorus 100 times over".
@@deoxyribomorph99 hahaha. my cousin actually used that same argument with a lot of blaze's songs, but i pointed out, they do that quite often, starting with somewhere in time; heaven can wait, caught somewhere in time, deja vu, seventh son of a seventh son, afraid to shoot strangers, etc.
I am one of the rare Risk enjoyers. Out of all the major metal bands that deviated, Megadeth's deviations are among those I appreciate the most. It feels like Dave was genuinely just trying to be creative, as opposed to...whatever the hell Metallica thought they were doing with St. Anger. Also, I'm surprised John Bush-era Anthrax didn't show up anywhere in the video. I guess that means that most people don't mind those albums, but I personally find them absolutely unlistenable aside from a small sampling of songs off The Sound of White Noise (my recommendations are "Only", "Hy Pro Glo", "1000 Points of Hate" and "Burst").
I'd kind of like to get your thoughts on Pantera's album before Cowboys From Hell, "Power Metal". It was Phil's debut album with them, but everyone acts like it doesn't exist. I unironically love it, and the song "We'll Meet Again" has Dimebag's best guitar solo of all time in my opinion.
Cowboys From Hell is my favorite Pantera album, good old school heavy metal from when singers would actually sing the lyrics, instead of growling them. For me, it was all downhill from there. Vulgar Display Of Power was actually the first of their albums I heard so, it still holds a special place for me. They lost me by Great Southern Trendkill; it has some good songs but, not enough to make me want to buy any more. CFH & VDOP still get regular play from me; the others not at all.
Power Metal is my favorite album from them. They have a lot of underrated songs like Proud to be loud and hard Ride. Too me the later albums just have too much of the bro dude attitude too it.
I actually like a few tracks off Virtual XI. Lightning Strikes Twice The Clansman When Two Worlds Collide Educated Fool I kinda dig them all. They pale in comparison to other Maiden, but that's not the pointl
I don't have the Pantera debut, but I do enjoy "St. Anger", "Risk" and "Lulu" when the mood strikes. Blaze was pretty cool considering the shoes he had to fill at the time. Not every album any band puts out is gonna be a winner I suppose, depends on how people want to take each album.
Nice video, and I completely agree with you about Risk. It’s not their best, but it still had some good songs like I’ll Be There and Prince of Darkness. I have to admit that I also like some “hated” albums such as Turbo by Judas Priest and Chameleon by Helloween. They’re actually kinda decent in my opinion, they’re just not as good as both bands’ best albums.
Enjoy your stuff! And need your take on Immortal (At the heart of winter/Sons of Northern Darkness/other stuff)! I am positively salivating just typing the album titles
It was because non of them would've match the Maiden sound. And actually, I do think Blaze did a decent job, specially in the X Factor, and furthermore, he has lead a brilliant solo career with some records that, imo, are way better than most late career Maiden records.
I've learned to love St. Anger, but I only gave it a listen after seeing a guy here on youtube that re-recorded the whole thing. You should check it out and react to that! Great content as always Bradley! :)
If they would release LuLu as an instrumental it woulda been amazing. As soon as Lou opens his mouth whatever riff is happening is ruined. When he stops talking it’s like getting relief from a cramp 😂
St Anger is more a vibe album. The song lengths and lyrics might bug me if I was sitting there, only listening to the music and reading the lyrics. However, if I put it on when exercising or cycling or whatever, it’s fucking great
Best part of St Anger is playing the dvd instead of the cd. That Pantera album is pretty decent. But its funny as hell. Especially that last song about getting some. Never heard the others. That's fine.
Loved Virtual 11, Risk, and St. Anger. Risk and St. Anger were way differant than than they usually sound like but still good in their own right. Risk was far better than St. Anger. St. Anger was a bit repetitive though. Virtual 11 was jolly old Maiden to me. Not one of their best, but a gas none the less. Only thing is the guitars were thin. But dude, why the heck does everyone like the Black Album? I grew up with Ride, Master, and Justice and when MTV debuted Enter Sandwich I wanted to shoot the TV.
I've said it before, where there's really only one prism you can view Risk through, if you hated it the first time and you're trying to see what anybody might've liked about it: view it as compilation of lead singles from separate Megadeth concept albums from alternate universes. (The titles of those alternate universe albums are titles of metal albums we have in this one- Piece of Mind, Worship Music, Point of Entry, Mob Rules, Metal Health, et c.) Which leads me to the only objectively bad thing I find about Risk- the title.
The songs are horribly written, the lyrics are lame, the production is terrible, the concept/name/artwork is a joke, and no guitar solos. Other than those things it's a good album.
I don't mind Risk, it's different, and not in a terrible way. When I listened to every Maiden album in lockdown I preferred Virtual XI to the one before, but that was on one listen and done. And Metallica, I passed after Reload, haven't listened to a damn thing since and I think that's a good decision.
How i would made those albums be better: Metal Magic: wouldn't change the music, cuz they were just young beginers playing the sound they liked, at least i'd put a better cover. Virtual XI: would make Blaze's vocals match better with Maiden's sound style and do well mixed tracks, could have some more decent songs. Risk: made the album sound a bit like Youthanasia or Cryptic Writings and delete that one striptease song. St.Anger: could have been a crossover punk EP (like a "the sound that influenced us"), or a oldschool thrash album, made Metallica forget to keep doing commercal songs and being on the top, forget the nu metal wave and Lars, we need to talk. Lulu: it's another piece of Lou Reed's experimentation stuff, i don't know if something get wrong with the production or if it's supposed to sounds that way, it's really confuising to me, so i would just ignore this piece, but not forget that exists, it's Lou Reed's last work.
3:41: It doesn't sound like Dimebag because Pantera stole their entire style from Exhorder, to include Dime's guitar tone. Listen to Exhorder, and then listen to Cowboys From Hell (the first album that Pantera used their "new style" on). The guitar tone, to include Dime's compression, is a ripoff.
St Anger was the first 'full on' metal album I got (putting aside Linkin Park etc). I was like, 11/12, I just got a new red hot fucking engine looking stereo boombox for my Bday along with the record and I was on holiday visiting relatives across England. Honest to god it made that summer, I was fucking loving it, down to the snare, which just sounded so hard to me at the time. I definitely think it's an over hated album. Granted even at the time I realised the songs dragged on a lot and some of the material was pretty subpar. But yeah I agree with he idea that there's a better album hidden in there with some cuts, re-takes, etc. I still can't say I'd personally change the snare though haha, to me it's just part of the angry vibe. Maybe I was also more forgiving of the egregious run-time because of the long car journeys I listened to it on too heh.
One of the reasons i loved st.anger was cus the snare itched this scratch i had with some metal bands where i felt like the drums arent hitting hard enough. That album got me into slipknot. St.anger is one of my favorite albums of all time
Ngl, St. Anger was my first Metallica CD (with the DVD so omg I see the band in the studio too?!) way back in 2009. Was completely ignorant to the hate as well. It’s still a nostalgic banger, but their discography was pretty much uphill from there. Only thing that I see the hate for is the production quality, and a snare that belongs in grind/mincecore.
Dude, people love to hate whenever Metallica tries to do something different. Load/Reload is actually pretty great and St. Anger is not bad and interesting. LULU is just them having fun.
I think St. Anger has some decent ideas, but yes, I do agree the album is way too long. Starting with Load and Reload, Metallica has had a bad habit of just cramming their albums full of songs. As for Lulu, you really do need to hear the whole thing to understand how terrible it is. Bland riffs, esoteric lyrics that aren't even in rhythm with the song, and the 20 minute noise rock ending is so pretentious. Lars still defends this album to this day (and I know it has other fans), but this definitely feels like a Lou Reed thing than anything metal related. I haven't listened to Risk or Metal Magic, so I have nothing to say about those, but of the two Blaze Bayley albums, I actually think The X Factor is slightly worse. Both are certainly rough, though I don't think it's Bayley's fault. I do think the band as a whole had hit a nadir of creativity and energy during the 90s. To be honest, I'm surprised you didn't include Morbid Angel's Illud Divinum Insanus. I admit I don't really listen to death metal, but I remember a lot of metal websites screaming in agony and terror when it came out. I'm sure there are others you could have included, but I suppose you didn't want the video to go on for too long.
I think Risk is genuinely a good album that has to live in the shadow of being a non metal Megadeth album. Honestly I think Super Collider is worse. Also, listen to Gurscach’s cover of St. Anger if you haven’t already. Fucking slaps. Edit: It’s at least half of a good album. Bugs me to no end that Crush ‘Em fuckin sucks as much as it does since it was originally written as a hockey song. Insomnia, Wanderlust, Prince of Darkness, and the two Time songs are genuinely really good though.
I have some not very popular opinions with many of the records here hahaha: 1. St. Anger, mate, it was the Metallica record of my youth! Maybe that's why I enjoy some of its songs, specially Dirty Window. Is not a good album, objectively, but I like it. 2. I am one of those who actually likes the Blaze Maiden era, specially The X Factor, what an amazing record, but yeah, the production of Virtual XI is terrible. However, I think there are worse Maiden records, No Prayer for the Dying is unispired and a total flaw in the Maiden's momentum they reached with SSOASS, and The Final Frontier is also totally unispired and boring, besides a couple songs it is a totally skippable album. 2. I do agree with the Risk overhated situation, I actually think Super Collider is way worse, and the same for the World Needs a Hero, that album is boring af! For Lulu and the Pantera's debut, both have terrible covers but I haven't listened either, so no opinions on those. Cheers from Mexico!
I think whenever Megadeth have tried to be more radio friendly they haven’t done well. Even super collider was trying to appeal to radio and it didn’t work.
The closest they got to number 1 on any singles chart was with Trust in the 90's. And Dave went out of his way to hire a Pop/Country producer to achieve that.
I like most of Risk - I think Dave is really good at writing catchy melodic stuff, but it's not what most of the fans want. I kinda like him doing a couple of aggressive albums then a more laid back one every now and then, it keeps it fun. I do think The Sick, the Dying and the Dead and RIP are their best albums though, and they are the tighter, more aggressive ones.
I still maintain that at anger was a return to form for Metallica. Yeah it’s very flawed but there are some great riffs and the snare is fucking awesome.
Super Collider is pretty bad. I like the title track because of how bizarre and out-of-place it feels (it's a terrible song, but the music video cracks me up every time). I like lyrics of Forget to Remember (except the phone call part on the middle). Kingmaker is good but just sounds like Children of the Grave. I don't care for anything else on it.
At that time, they couldn't have made a better and more appropriate album. They were falling apart. St Anger is the product of their anger, mistrust, but also a common temptation to reconcile again and find a new path. And that's why the album should be appreciated.
At the end of the day an album has to stand on its own. You can’t say “they were going through so much etc”. Nobody ever says that about Justice, except maybe to explain why there’s no bass, but the music is awesome so it’s not a factor that they were missing Cliff and hazing Jason.
Listened to st anger and lulu for the first time last week. I really like the drums on st anger. Lulu is my favourite metallica album (I mainly listen to death metal)
Funny thing is, the risk you find on streaming services and on youtube is different than the original, they edited the crap out of it in 2004 in the remaster.
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I love Metallica, but they have by far the worst two Metal albums ever made...
Lulu and St. Anger are literally undefeatable...
NO CONTEST!!!
Play the dam music??
I AM THE TABLE
HELL YEAHHHHH
No you are a human being. You cant be an inanimate object. How old are you?
@@ZaneBerry1992you're so cool and funny and everyone should take notes from you (not)
Zane I'm James Hetfield
@@TheRockSocietyOfficial im so sorry pappa. I didnt know.
St Anger perfectly encapsulates the state of the band at the time. Jason quit, James was dealing with alcoholism, the band almost fell apart.
If it was a half shorter, it'd be better. Otherwise, it's just boring, but somehow it's fun :) I enjoy how stupid and entertaining this album is :D
I never thought about the real-life stuff they were going through around that time. Now it kind of makes sense why the album sounds the way that it does. Good observation.
Yeah it’s the background noise of the band falling apart
Exactly! And because of this, I think St.Anger is one of their best album (I'm dead serious). It's not only the album, it's the context of it. This album is absolutely visceral because of this. The lyrics, the songs, the cover... It's everywhere in it.
There’s a good album buried in there. I loved the risk taking but it definitely wasn’t successful.
Saying Lulu "isn't canon in the Metallica discography" is actually a great way to put it lmao
Honestly it was more of a Lou Reed album peppered by Metallica's riffs.
If you've heard Lou Reed's Berlin, it sounds similar. Conceptually.
Yeah, I actually did enjoy it - not your every day go-to listen, but something student in the better ways.
nah, what it is is coping
@@FrahamenIt's a Lou Reed album because unlike on their other albums Metallica didn't actually write any lyrics on it, they just composed some of the music with Reed.
"Kiss crossing with Van Halen"
He just described Glam Metal
I still maintain that St Anger has a really good 40ish minute album hiding within it.
There is a good album hiding. Look at Michael Shea Audio and he fixed the whole album.
@@marcen12 St. bAnger I believe. It's way better.
@@MikeDS49 It's goes so hard yet it goes down smooth.
Indeed, my album St. bAnger might be up your alley. 55 minutes instead of 40, but still better than the original 75 minutes. XD
St. Headache... xD 😅
Ding Dong Ding Dong Ding Dong!!!...
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And it sounds like "wanna be New Metal"...
Wich just makes it even worse...
yo metal magic was pantera's first album, when they were still in high school, produced independently. i can't even hate on that, not like a band that's been around for 20 years churning out slop. pantera's pre power metal stuff is incredibly well produced and you can hear dime's skills and the band chemistry even early on. of course with phil they went even higher...it's just sad how things played out post pantera.
The Blaze album mentioned is not bad at all. Lightning Strikes Twice, The Clansman, Futureal, all are amazing songs.
The clansman is amazing, the rest are something a band of the Maiden status shouldnt even consider putting on tape. Sound quality and the other nerd stuff aside, the songs themselves are just boring and bad
@@bserdev8407 They still play Futureal with Bruce. They even re-recorded it with Bruce.
@@MysticMungusSlungus No, they don't. Futureal was only played on it's tour and then for a few months in 99 with Dickinson and Adrian, that was 25 years ago. It was never re-recorded with Dickinson.
@@bserdev8407 I grabbed my "Ed Hunter" CD and sure enough, it was just a live version (I don't listen to this album all that much). Could have sworn they re-recorded it with Bruce. Good call.
@@MysticMungusSlungus Wrathchild was re-done in 1999 with him
Imagine if Queen’s “a night at the opera” was “a night at the glaze chamber”
Bro🤣
Glaze 'Em All
I've always loved Risk. I'm not saying it's objectively good or great, I just personally really enjoy it.
It's better than the band's fan base is capable of deserving. That was the problem.
A few songs?... yes, sure... but is it Megadeth's best album?... no, at all...
Cryptic Writings was their Black Album and Risk was their Load of crap!
That's all that really matters man.
I think they bordered pop songs with this.
Crush em etc...
The worst song for me is bread line. And the tragic part is the drums. They just sounded so so predictable. If your going to do some alt music then it's not wise to bang over a cheesy generic rock beat and some blues rock licks...
I think we need a 6 hour live stream with Bradley and all these albums
Blaze Bayley is a very good singer in his own right, but just wasn’t a good fit for Iron Maiden. More importantly he’s seems to be a decent human being caring more about his band mates than his own career (at least based on what I’ve read/heard). IMO the things that killed “Virtual XI” and “X-Factor” were lackluster song writing and the band’s refusal to acknowledge that Blaze was fundamentally different singer than Bruce and adjust their style accordingly.
The first record with Blaze was pretty good and I maintain that Sign of the Cross is a top-tier Maiden song
@@Malkav65I love that track
I think he sounds cheesy AF in anything he does
Virtual XI has some songs that might have been better if not for whatever was unbalanced in the band dynamic. It's not fair to blame it all on Blaze when he did try, had the odd moment and then... gone. What you had was basically a great band, tired the fuck out, trying to get great things from a round shaped singer squeezed into a square shaped singer hole. Some of those songs have since been at least halfway good against the best of the rest of IM's work with a little tweaking and Bruce singing. The X Factor was the better album of the Blaze years overall imo though suffered many of the same core issues. Of course, when you're looking at and comparing to the absolute best of IM and their back catalogue, nothing can beat that consistently and with panache... not even IM since Bruce returned (even though they've remained an amazing live experience far beyond their years)
@@chrisproost7290 I don’t Blaze at all for those albums, I just tried to convey his vocal style wasn’t a good fit for the band, who in turn didn’t seem to do anything to accommodate his style, as you also pointed out. And I agree with you, even the newer albums with Bruce, including Brave New World, while decent rock albums, fail to capture the magic of anything done by the band prior to “No Prayer for the Dying”.
Totally agree about st anger. The problem isnt the production, the problem is the writing.
No it's definitely the production as well. Which means it's everything.
It's bad.
That was easy to say!
The Terry Glaze part is hilarious. 😂😂
I'm going to make a soft attempt to change your mind on St. Anger. The original album is not good, HOWEVER, I re-recorded it and the reception has been very positive. I cut 20 minutes from the album, that should be intriguing enough for you. 😂
Beneath all the BS, there actually is a good album. If you like bouncy riffs and breakdowns, then St. [b]Anger is a great alternative!
I was going to write a comment about your version that I just found today but I guess there's no need to now
@@arex7559 You still could! What I've learned from the massive influx of comments is that UA-cam doesn't notify you of every comment. Not even UA-cam Studio shows you all of the comments, you gotta go to the video and sort by newest to see everything you've missed. A channel the size of Bradley's is probably insane, so more comments about it might help. I'm glad you liked it enough to recommend it though, thank you!
Did you rerecord it without the tin can? because I often wonder what it would sound like if it had normal drums
St. [b] anger lead me to this. Great re-recording by the way. I wouldn't mind that version on CD TBH
I listened to St. Banger the other day. While I was blown away by the amount of skill and effort you put into it, I feel St. Anger is the very definition of "you can't polish a turd."
St. Anger is not that Bad. Was on the Tour back than and live some songs work very well. Unnamed Feeling is a killer song!
St. Anger isn't good, but it doesn't deserve the hate it gets. It has potential to be good. It needs a lot of tightening up. The songs need to be focused and concise, with better lyrics and solos. But, there are definitely many individual ideas that are really great. I remember buying the C.D. it came with a T-Shirt and a live DVD of them playing the entire album. I happened to listen to the live version a bunch and liked it. It had good energy. Lars was doing some unique drum beats for him. I appreciated the unique time signatures in some songs. And Rob amped up all of it. But, Kirk was doing nothing useful.
I know Metallica wouldn't re-record an album, but if they took the approach they do now, it would be a pretty good album. It's a product of broken James, and Jason leaving.
The reason why it works live now is because the band is in a MUCH MUCH better place than when they recorded it. They see the flaws and fixed them live. They COULD re-record them but the internet has already done it, like how people fixed And Justice for All by putting ACTUAL BASS in the songs.
its like listening to a chainsaw first thing in the morning
It was better live that's for sure. That sadly was the last Metallica concert I went to.
St. Anger is the worst Metallica album, but not the worst metal album, by a long shot
Should do a part 2 with Morbid Angel's "Illud Divinum Insanus", Celtic Frost's "Cold Lake", Cryptocrisy's "The Unspoken King", Suicide Silence 2017 self titled, Machine Head's "Catharsis", Psychosinner (formerly Psychosexual) entire discography, and perhaps not quite metal but adjacent, Chris Cornells' "Scream" & Kid Rock's Bad Reputation.
Also should mention Linkin Park's One More Light, which was initially very hated, and would likely still be if it weren't for Chester's passing two months later, resulting in One More Light suddenly being liked and praised by the very same people who were initially dissing the crap out of it
Add in Atrocity's BLUT (was gifted it many years ago) It's so bad that it almost comes all the way round to being good.
@@chrisproost7290 seems like they were listening to a lot of type o negative and carnivore when recording that . Not the worst I’ve heard but that is a big jump from the technical death metal sound of their previous records
Risk is genuinely great imo, only song I can't stand listening to on that album is Crush Em tbh
Crush Em is terrible
Time: The Beginning was THE song that got me into Megadeth.
Wrestle-metal bullshit.
@@RolandDeschain1 I know exactly what you mean by "wrestle-metal". That said, I consider Overkill's "Damned" a guilty pleasure.
Bread line is the worst for me...
Those cheesy 'ooooooooo's' are just too much. Drums and guitar are just pub rock. Truly terrible.
Quite like the devil song, dr calling, theres a bonus Jovi type ballad, thought that was great wanderlust?
Thing about mustaine he dont write amazing sing along melodies,i think james het does mixed with a more accepted voice tone.
We need someone to do a Terry Glaze AI voice with the later pantera albums.
Risk was great. Believe it or not, it was THE album that got me into Megadeth, specifically the song "Time: The Beginning". I love its lyrics, and it makes me think about my age/life whenever I listen to it.
The two Time songs are masterpieces for me.
Time the beginning is so underrated, the lyrics hit so hard
I truly love Iced Honey (from Lulu) main guitar riff, it is just great
That version of Risk is a remixed and remastered version, where Dave took all the industrial influences out of the album, put back Marty's solos and Ellefson's bass, (which were removed from various songs) and ultimately turned it more into a hard rock album.
Metal Magic is actually not that bad, and St Anger really is that bad.
Metal Magic is a quite nice album, considering it was Pantera's first record. "Diamond" Darrell's solos and riffs are awesome, considering he was 16.
I've never heard Pantera's first album either, but it sounding like Kiss mixed with Van Halen makes total sense, the Abbott bros grew up on those bands.
It's live how we Pantera fans just collectively decided those early albums don't exist and their first album is Cowboys from Hell :D
I actually really like Virtual XI. Yes, the songs are ridiculously repetitive with abysmally shallow lyrics, but Blaze's voice is awesome and the guitar riffs are stellar. I won't even call it a guilty pleasure, I love that album.
i wouldn't say "i love it", but it's good. however it is definitely one of maiden's worst albums, along with no prayer for the dying.
@@user-yn1sf9mq3z That's fair. I like most of the songs on that album, but Angel and the Gambler is an instant skip, I don't know what they were thinking with that one.
@@deoxyribomorph99 yeah. the angel and the gambler is one of maiden's weaker songs, but i think if bruce was singing it, it would be pretty good. i like the solos and the structure of the song, but it is pretty annoying with blaze singing it.
@@user-yn1sf9mq3z I didn't feel like Blaze's voice was the problem, I think the problem was that nobody in the band had the stones to say "Steve, no, you can't repeat the chorus 100 times over".
@@deoxyribomorph99 hahaha. my cousin actually used that same argument with a lot of blaze's songs, but i pointed out, they do that quite often, starting with somewhere in time; heaven can wait, caught somewhere in time, deja vu, seventh son of a seventh son, afraid to shoot strangers, etc.
Hey Bradley! did you listen to the Mastifal record "Intermundia"? (the one above your head in 7:19)
I am one of the rare Risk enjoyers. Out of all the major metal bands that deviated, Megadeth's deviations are among those I appreciate the most. It feels like Dave was genuinely just trying to be creative, as opposed to...whatever the hell Metallica thought they were doing with St. Anger. Also, I'm surprised John Bush-era Anthrax didn't show up anywhere in the video. I guess that means that most people don't mind those albums, but I personally find them absolutely unlistenable aside from a small sampling of songs off The Sound of White Noise (my recommendations are "Only", "Hy Pro Glo", "1000 Points of Hate" and "Burst").
A lot of people preferred Bush as their vocalist, Metallica actually wanted him to sing for them, he declined.
What do YOU think about these albums? Is the hate actually deserved??
Noo
Lulu? Absolutely. I've only played it twice since I bought it new. Not an album I can get into
St Anger's not really bad to the point I never listen to it
I think St Anger is a pretty bloated album, but Dirty Window is still a go to track for me. Actually feels like something I'd call good.
Yes
I'd kind of like to get your thoughts on Pantera's album before Cowboys From Hell, "Power Metal". It was Phil's debut album with them, but everyone acts like it doesn't exist. I unironically love it, and the song "We'll Meet Again" has Dimebag's best guitar solo of all time in my opinion.
Cowboys From Hell is my favorite Pantera album, good old school heavy metal from when singers would actually sing the lyrics, instead of growling them. For me, it was all downhill from there. Vulgar Display Of Power was actually the first of their albums I heard so, it still holds a special place for me. They lost me by Great Southern Trendkill; it has some good songs but, not enough to make me want to buy any more. CFH & VDOP still get regular play from me; the others not at all.
Power Metal is my favorite album from them. They have a lot of underrated songs like Proud to be loud and hard Ride. Too me the later albums just have too much of the bro dude attitude too it.
I actually like a few tracks off Virtual XI.
Lightning Strikes Twice
The Clansman
When Two Worlds Collide
Educated Fool
I kinda dig them all. They pale in comparison to other Maiden, but that's not the pointl
I don't have the Pantera debut, but I do enjoy "St. Anger", "Risk" and "Lulu" when the mood strikes. Blaze was pretty cool considering the shoes he had to fill at the time. Not every album any band puts out is gonna be a winner I suppose, depends on how people want to take each album.
I enjoy probably the title track, dirty window, frantic, sweet amber and some kind of monster. Despite the snare sounding like a trash can
Nice video, and I completely agree with you about Risk. It’s not their best, but it still had some good songs like I’ll Be There and Prince of Darkness. I have to admit that I also like some “hated” albums such as Turbo by Judas Priest and Chameleon by Helloween. They’re actually kinda decent in my opinion, they’re just not as good as both bands’ best albums.
People hate virtual XI and the X factor, but Blaze's solo albums are absolutely amazing and the music really matches his voice
Metal Magic only gets clowned on because of the Album cover. Without it, it would just be seen as Panteras awkward phase but its still good
Hell yeah
Enjoy your stuff! And need your take on Immortal (At the heart of winter/Sons of Northern Darkness/other stuff)! I am positively salivating just typing the album titles
What's the name of the app, software or site that you used to create this rank? I just saw it in a few videos but I don't know the app... 👍🏻
'Lulu isnt canon' 😂
7:08 MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD-
The fact that Iron Maiden passed up Michael Kiske and Doogie White for Bailey is baffling to me....
They get shown the door based on their godawful names alone 🤘😆
@@adamvanderriet9669 Yeah, I forgot that the quality of someone's singing is proportional to how people perceive that person's name.
Kiske is the obvious choice, would have been phenomenal
It was because non of them would've match the Maiden sound. And actually, I do think Blaze did a decent job, specially in the X Factor, and furthermore, he has lead a brilliant solo career with some records that, imo, are way better than most late career Maiden records.
They passed up Kiske because they wanted a Bri'ish gentleman as their singer
Unrelated question Bradley, have you ever played anesthesia pulling teeth on bass?
I've learned to love St. Anger, but I only gave it a listen after seeing a guy here on youtube that re-recorded the whole thing. You should check it out and react to that!
Great content as always Bradley! :)
I unironicly love glamtera, projects in the jungle is my favourite Pantera album.
You missed the best song on Risk, which is actually not Breadline, it's Ecstasy.
Wanderlust is my favorite
@@DavidRattleheadYep or maybe seven
Risk is unironically good, sure weird for a Megadeth album, but it’s good.
Is there a link to this live I would like to watch It
I haven't listened to Metal Magic but I have listened to Power Metal and I do think it is pretty good
If they would release LuLu as an instrumental it woulda been amazing. As soon as Lou opens his mouth whatever riff is happening is ruined. When he stops talking it’s like getting relief from a cramp 😂
Yes. Next question.
St Anger is more a vibe album. The song lengths and lyrics might bug me if I was sitting there, only listening to the music and reading the lyrics. However, if I put it on when exercising or cycling or whatever, it’s fucking great
hey man how can I contact you about giving you a set of homemade picks I make ?
St. Anger is a snapshot of early 2000s Metallica. It's a musical Twitter rant, and I love it.
Virtual XI was my first album by Iron Maiden and it's in my top 5 list. This sounds weird but I like it
Best part of St Anger is playing the dvd instead of the cd.
That Pantera album is pretty decent. But its funny as hell. Especially that last song about getting some.
Never heard the others.
That's fine.
Loved Virtual 11, Risk, and St. Anger. Risk and St. Anger were way differant than than they usually sound like but still good in their own right. Risk was far better than St. Anger. St. Anger was a bit repetitive though. Virtual 11 was jolly old Maiden to me. Not one of their best, but a gas none the less. Only thing is the guitars were thin. But dude, why the heck does everyone like the Black Album? I grew up with Ride, Master, and Justice and when MTV debuted Enter Sandwich I wanted to shoot the TV.
I've said it before, where there's really only one prism you can view Risk through, if you hated it the first time and you're trying to see what anybody might've liked about it: view it as compilation of lead singles from separate Megadeth concept albums from alternate universes. (The titles of those alternate universe albums are titles of metal albums we have in this one- Piece of Mind, Worship Music, Point of Entry, Mob Rules, Metal Health, et c.) Which leads me to the only objectively bad thing I find about Risk- the title.
I like St.Anger... The Unnamed Feeling anche Sweet Amber are greats
Does The Clansman not save Virtual XI even a little? It's only one song but it's absolutely fantastic.
I myself like Risk quite a bit and think it gets a bad wrap, but I totally get why some people wouldnt get into it.
St Anger low key actually instills rage in me… The way metal should at least… Still a good album that doesn’t deserve all the hate
The songs are horribly written, the lyrics are lame, the production is terrible, the concept/name/artwork is a joke, and no guitar solos. Other than those things it's a good album.
I get the same feeling listening to a chainsaw
3:12 omg
I’m not a fan of St Anger the album but sometimes it is cathartic to listen to on a really shitty day
I don't mind Risk, it's different, and not in a terrible way. When I listened to every Maiden album in lockdown I preferred Virtual XI to the one before, but that was on one listen and done. And Metallica, I passed after Reload, haven't listened to a damn thing since and I think that's a good decision.
Risk enjoyer here
Risk is legit my fav Megadeth album, hugely underrated album.
"Has to spend a night with Terry Glaze" HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
How i would made those albums be better:
Metal Magic: wouldn't change the music, cuz they were just young beginers playing the sound they liked, at least i'd put a better cover.
Virtual XI: would make Blaze's vocals match better with Maiden's sound style and do well mixed tracks, could have some more decent songs.
Risk: made the album sound a bit like Youthanasia or Cryptic Writings and delete that one striptease song.
St.Anger: could have been a crossover punk EP (like a "the sound that influenced us"), or a oldschool thrash album, made Metallica forget to keep doing commercal songs and being on the top, forget the nu metal wave and Lars, we need to talk.
Lulu: it's another piece of Lou Reed's experimentation stuff, i don't know if something get wrong with the production or if it's supposed to sounds that way, it's really confuising to me, so i would just ignore this piece, but not forget that exists, it's Lou Reed's last work.
3:41: It doesn't sound like Dimebag because Pantera stole their entire style from Exhorder, to include Dime's guitar tone. Listen to Exhorder, and then listen to Cowboys From Hell (the first album that Pantera used their "new style" on). The guitar tone, to include Dime's compression, is a ripoff.
0-3-5
St Anger was the first 'full on' metal album I got (putting aside Linkin Park etc). I was like, 11/12, I just got a new red hot fucking engine looking stereo boombox for my Bday along with the record and I was on holiday visiting relatives across England. Honest to god it made that summer, I was fucking loving it, down to the snare, which just sounded so hard to me at the time.
I definitely think it's an over hated album. Granted even at the time I realised the songs dragged on a lot and some of the material was pretty subpar. But yeah I agree with he idea that there's a better album hidden in there with some cuts, re-takes, etc. I still can't say I'd personally change the snare though haha, to me it's just part of the angry vibe. Maybe I was also more forgiving of the egregious run-time because of the long car journeys I listened to it on too heh.
Terry Glaze went on to sing in a band called Lord Tracey who were actually really good, check out their album Deaf Godz of Babylon
I need to revisit Risk, I enjoyed it at the time it was released.
The green cover version of St. Anger is surprisingly listenable.
you look like weird al if he was a british metalhead
One of the reasons i loved st.anger was cus the snare itched this scratch i had with some metal bands where i felt like the drums arent hitting hard enough. That album got me into slipknot. St.anger is one of my favorite albums of all time
Promise by Massacre is not appreciated by anyone and this is heart-breaking
Ngl, St. Anger was my first Metallica CD (with the DVD so omg I see the band in the studio too?!) way back in 2009. Was completely ignorant to the hate as well. It’s still a nostalgic banger, but their discography was pretty much uphill from there. Only thing that I see the hate for is the production quality, and a snare that belongs in grind/mincecore.
Dude, people love to hate whenever Metallica tries to do something different. Load/Reload is actually pretty great and St. Anger is not bad and interesting. LULU is just them having fun.
'7:08' is just bradley simply falling off a chair but its my favourite part the video. 😂
0:55 with that hat on, Bradley looks like he’s auditioning for the Ebenzeezer Goode video
I think St. Anger has some decent ideas, but yes, I do agree the album is way too long. Starting with Load and Reload, Metallica has had a bad habit of just cramming their albums full of songs. As for Lulu, you really do need to hear the whole thing to understand how terrible it is. Bland riffs, esoteric lyrics that aren't even in rhythm with the song, and the 20 minute noise rock ending is so pretentious. Lars still defends this album to this day (and I know it has other fans), but this definitely feels like a Lou Reed thing than anything metal related.
I haven't listened to Risk or Metal Magic, so I have nothing to say about those, but of the two Blaze Bayley albums, I actually think The X Factor is slightly worse. Both are certainly rough, though I don't think it's Bayley's fault. I do think the band as a whole had hit a nadir of creativity and energy during the 90s.
To be honest, I'm surprised you didn't include Morbid Angel's Illud Divinum Insanus. I admit I don't really listen to death metal, but I remember a lot of metal websites screaming in agony and terror when it came out. I'm sure there are others you could have included, but I suppose you didn't want the video to go on for too long.
hadn't heard of lulu, but something about that cover made me think of sirrah.
Risk isnt that bad. Others are really bad. But The Clansman is very good maiden song 🤘👍
I think Risk is genuinely a good album that has to live in the shadow of being a non metal Megadeth album.
Honestly I think Super Collider is worse.
Also, listen to Gurscach’s cover of St. Anger if you haven’t already. Fucking slaps.
Edit:
It’s at least half of a good album. Bugs me to no end that Crush ‘Em fuckin sucks as much as it does since it was originally written as a hockey song. Insomnia, Wanderlust, Prince of Darkness, and the two Time songs are genuinely really good though.
All vocals on point.
I have some not very popular opinions with many of the records here hahaha:
1. St. Anger, mate, it was the Metallica record of my youth! Maybe that's why I enjoy some of its songs, specially Dirty Window. Is not a good album, objectively, but I like it.
2. I am one of those who actually likes the Blaze Maiden era, specially The X Factor, what an amazing record, but yeah, the production of Virtual XI is terrible. However, I think there are worse Maiden records, No Prayer for the Dying is unispired and a total flaw in the Maiden's momentum they reached with SSOASS, and The Final Frontier is also totally unispired and boring, besides a couple songs it is a totally skippable album.
2. I do agree with the Risk overhated situation, I actually think Super Collider is way worse, and the same for the World Needs a Hero, that album is boring af!
For Lulu and the Pantera's debut, both have terrible covers but I haven't listened either, so no opinions on those.
Cheers from Mexico!
I think whenever Megadeth have tried to be more radio friendly they haven’t done well. Even super collider was trying to appeal to radio and it didn’t work.
The closest they got to number 1 on any singles chart was with Trust in the 90's. And Dave went out of his way to hire a Pop/Country producer to achieve that.
I did not like Risk at First. But the First time o Saw megadeth Love, un 1999, the Songs o enjoded the most were She Wolf and Breadline.
I like most of Risk - I think Dave is really good at writing catchy melodic stuff, but it's not what most of the fans want. I kinda like him doing a couple of aggressive albums then a more laid back one every now and then, it keeps it fun. I do think The Sick, the Dying and the Dead and RIP are their best albums though, and they are the tighter, more aggressive ones.
I will always defend Risk and LuLu... as well as St. Anger.
The Blaze Maiden albums were harmed far more by the production than the vocals.
What about Celtic Frost´s Cold Lake? That one really is hated!!
I've seen some Terry Glazes' down the years, but that is the Terry Glaze to Terry Glaze them all!
Bradley have you noticed that your icon has the nose ring in the wrong nostril
because i have
dude you need to listen to czarci świt - diabły wzywają, it makes lulu sound like a frickin masterpiece
I still maintain that at anger was a return to form for Metallica. Yeah it’s very flawed but there are some great riffs and the snare is fucking awesome.
Ps, lulu is a Lou reed album featuring Metallica, they’re mostly Lou’s songs. It’s actually really good if you like Lou reed.
You should do this again but for all of the ‘grunge’ albums by ex-popular hair metal bands
I agree that "Risk" ist not terrible, but what about "Super Collider"?
Two words. Fucking Awful
Super Collifer was an awful mistep. Risk is full of great songwriting, Super Collider, not so much.
Super Collider is pretty bad. I like the title track because of how bizarre and out-of-place it feels (it's a terrible song, but the music video cracks me up every time). I like lyrics of Forget to Remember (except the phone call part on the middle). Kingmaker is good but just sounds like Children of the Grave. I don't care for anything else on it.
At that time, they couldn't have made a better and more appropriate album. They were falling apart.
St Anger is the product of their anger, mistrust, but also a common temptation to reconcile again and find a new path. And that's why the album should be appreciated.
At the end of the day an album has to stand on its own. You can’t say “they were going through so much etc”. Nobody ever says that about Justice, except maybe to explain why there’s no bass, but the music is awesome so it’s not a factor that they were missing Cliff and hazing Jason.
Listened to st anger and lulu for the first time last week. I really like the drums on st anger. Lulu is my favourite metallica album (I mainly listen to death metal)
Funny thing is, the risk you find on streaming services and on youtube is different than the original, they edited the crap out of it in 2004 in the remaster.
you forgot the disco-industrial nightmare that is ILLUD DIVINUM INSANUS. what were morbid angel thinking!