@@kvnnsi1 I’ll listen to that when we stop consistently winning all these games by close to 30.. idk if youve watched the games but it’s pretty simple. Derrick white and jaylen brown have clearly had really hot hands when it comes to scoring so Tatum has been taking the backseat to them to not get in the way of winning basketball. Again idk if you watch the Celtics but If you watched you’d clearly be able to see it just in the way he’s moving around the court. Doesn’t make sense for him to force up shots to get out of his slump when we’re dominating every game
@@kvnnsi1 bro why would he demand the ball to selfishly score 30 a game when D White and brown are on fire? It’s like we don’t like playmaking anymore lmao someone was gonna have to sacrifice on this very talented roster and at this moment it’s Tatum but it’s gonna change
Dumb argument.... Tatum is still shooting the ball a lot. He's just missing. Look at his shooting percentages. And brous point is when yall actually play some damn competition, if he's shooting like this, then you're gonna lose period!
@@dylanfuhs185 nobody would care if he was shooting 45% from the field and 38% from three, but if you guys are blowing people out it almost looks like it’s in spite of him there’s no reason his efficiency shouldn’t be better
Love how SGA skipped over Tatum, when he clearly took a backseat for better team chemistry… he’s never been top 10 in freethrows… dude avg’ 30 points last year and has 40-50-60 point playoff games under his belt… Tatum will be fine, Celtics will be fine.
Tatum being the Celtics best rebounder, defender and playmaker but shooting poorly is an “unsurprising bad game” but Luka (who shot worse than Tatum in round 1) plays like trash and they’re shocked
Finals appearances are an accomplishment as well. Comparing that to losing the first round is ridiculous There is way too much talent in the league, it’s not like the Celtics are the warriors with KD.
I hope Tatum brings the scoring up, I think once times get tough he’ll pop back at the fore front. I never would’ve thought Tatum could be the third leading scorer and they’d be doing just fine, on top of his abysmal shooting splits rn
They're my pick for the Finals. This is their best opportunity. Take advantage this season because next year the Heat, Knicks, Bucks, Pacers will be back and better next year.
My problem with these Tatum takes is that this post season is being treated like the norm instead of an outlier so far. Tatum is shooting playoff career lows from the field and three through 6 games this year. In 20 games last year he averaged 27/10.5/5 on 46/32/88. Also when it comes to success at a young age people forget Tatum averaged 25/10/5 through 17 games T 21 years old in 2019-20; 30/6/5 at 22 against the KD/Kyrie/Harden Nets healthy in 2020-21; 25/7/6 in 24 games at 23 shooting 43/39/80 >, 2021-22. Tatum has done just as much as this current batch of youth in this short sample size of theirs (outside of Lukas numbers) and had for more team success to go with it. Did Tatum have a bad 2022 finals, sure, and did he struggle against the heat last year, sure. But these other "young" guys haven't even gotta to those places to potentially struggle or succeed. Ant has what, 2 playoff series wins? Brunson has 1? Luka has been to a WCF. None of them touch the success Tatum has and he has basically been the Celtics best player since the playoffs of his rookie year.
I guarantee you if the celtics win the chip while jt still playing the way he playing the media gone find a way to give him the mvp instead of say a guy like derrick white
As a basketball fan for 20+ years I can assure you every team that has lost in the finals would consider that a wasted yr Don’t let these talking heads put nonsense in your minds 😂
Is this the same Tatum who dropped 46 at Milwaukee facing elimination and the Tatum who dropped 50 on Philly in gym 7 and went off in gym 6 at Philly in the 4th .no sport is overrated from him to gym than the nba
Aiiii listen, the media is overreacting. Tatum has the pressure lifted off his shoulders bc of his elite teammates. He doesnt need to go for 30+ when brown or white or KP can go OFFF. I dont think he cares to get as many points as he can like other stars in the league. If his team wins, the team wins. Lets not take it too far
Celtics crybabies wondering why we don’t trust them..we tried to trust y’all for over 6 years now and y’all blow it year after year. It’s time to doubt y’all every game to say the least 🤷🏽♂️ win a chip and you get all the doubt erased, simple.
Nick you keep thinking that numbers make you win you are wrong again someone can have a bad shooting night but play great defense this is why Michael Jordan is the greatest player ever because if he's having a poor shooting night he sure is going to play great defense to win and still get thirty points even if it means getting to the free throw line this is why LeBron James has lost six times in the finals because he cares about his stats and doesn't play defense to shut you down period
He didn’t have 6 bad games in the finals lol it was 2. Arguably the only two really bad games he’s ever had in his life. JT has a bad game every couple games
@@KingHampton-ul1iw averages don’t matter here, his awful game was an 8 point which obviou killed his average if it wasn’t for that he prob would of been around 20-21 average in an era which is equivalent to scoring about 26-27 now. Also in the finals and once again known AS ONE OF THE HANDFUL OF GAMES THAT HES HAD THAT ARE ACTUALLY REALLY BAD/TERRIBLE. JT CONSISTENTLY HAS SEVERAL bad games in the playoffs EVERY YEAR against worst teams than that mavs team. Bro is just a glorified PG in his prime. He’s a really good player but never will be on that next tier
8:40 exactly what i hate for NBA and I'm losing interest in this scripted and subjective sport. the term "marginal contact" is just the back door left open for refs and the league manipulate games. so if the league want to promote any team, or to kill any team, the refs always allow one team defend with more "marginal contact" and limited the other team. AKA double standard, so even in the last 2 min report, everything is called "correctly"
I've never seen a team doing so good just get shit on all the time like the Celtics. It's wild
Make no sense
They will criticized for making the finals too
It’s really evident sometimes who watches the Celtics games and who watches highlights and box score numbers
Dude it’s the point of they will play a team in the finals that are way better then the comp in the east he needs to play better
@@kvnnsi1 I’ll listen to that when we stop consistently winning all these games by close to 30.. idk if youve watched the games but it’s pretty simple. Derrick white and jaylen brown have clearly had really hot hands when it comes to scoring so Tatum has been taking the backseat to them to not get in the way of winning basketball. Again idk if you watch the Celtics but If you watched you’d clearly be able to see it just in the way he’s moving around the court. Doesn’t make sense for him to force up shots to get out of his slump when we’re dominating every game
@@kvnnsi1 bro why would he demand the ball to selfishly score 30 a game when D White and brown are on fire? It’s like we don’t like playmaking anymore lmao someone was gonna have to sacrifice on this very talented roster and at this moment it’s Tatum but it’s gonna change
Dumb argument.... Tatum is still shooting the ball a lot. He's just missing. Look at his shooting percentages. And brous point is when yall actually play some damn competition, if he's shooting like this, then you're gonna lose period!
@@dylanfuhs185 nobody would care if he was shooting 45% from the field and 38% from three, but if you guys are blowing people out it almost looks like it’s in spite of him there’s no reason his efficiency shouldn’t be better
Love how SGA skipped over Tatum, when he clearly took a backseat for better team chemistry… he’s never been top 10 in freethrows… dude avg’ 30 points last year and has 40-50-60 point playoff games under his belt… Tatum will be fine, Celtics will be fine.
Tatum being the Celtics best rebounder, defender and playmaker but shooting poorly is an “unsurprising bad game” but Luka (who shot worse than Tatum in round 1) plays like trash and they’re shocked
Thank you bruh. They pick and choose when they care about points scored
The hate for the Celtics is real on these fox networks. Celtics can win by 50 it’ll be a problem. They lose 2 game it’s time to blow it up smh
Wildes rly does bring this show together
Love Wildes and the show definitely needs him. The show is a lot more serious without him 😅
It’s too serious without Wildes, too disjointed without Brou and too quiet without Nick..
Tatum’s not shooting well but if they watched the games they’d realise he’s affecting the games in so many other ways
Yea, vs the depleted heat and the cavs 🤦🏾♂️ he has to play better cause the it’s only going to get tougher
What? Tatum is an unselfish player. . . his defense was PHENOMINAL Vs CLE . . .
It’s a bit hard to shoot well when you’re getting double & triple teamed most of the time
Celtics have had a 25 point lead in every game except one. Who cares how many points Tatum is scoring?
Clearly you didn’t watch the segment as they didn’t care either 😂
Maybe actually watch the segments
they know that and they hate it! if he scores 60 and they lose Tatums a bum! cant win with them.
Maybe they’ll start playing real teams from West in finals.
@@MeBihhhh they literally said it's a thing to worry about.
Because the teams they’ve played so far are a joke?
Finals appearances are an accomplishment as well. Comparing that to losing the first round is ridiculous
There is way too much talent in the league, it’s not like the Celtics are the warriors with KD.
I hope Tatum brings the scoring up, I think once times get tough he’ll pop back at the fore front. I never would’ve thought Tatum could be the third leading scorer and they’d be doing just fine, on top of his abysmal shooting splits rn
They're my pick for the Finals. This is their best opportunity. Take advantage this season because next year the Heat, Knicks, Bucks, Pacers will be back and better next year.
Their front office isn’t as good as the Celtics
Tatum averaged 22, 10 and 5 round 1...pretty good
They really really need to win it this year, if they don’t it is a huge disappointment. Thankfully JT can do so much more than score, thankfully.
This was a horrible point 2 years ago we got to the finals by jayson tatum annihilating teams and how did that serve them
My problem with these Tatum takes is that this post season is being treated like the norm instead of an outlier so far. Tatum is shooting playoff career lows from the field and three through 6 games this year. In 20 games last year he averaged 27/10.5/5 on 46/32/88. Also when it comes to success at a young age people forget Tatum averaged 25/10/5 through 17 games T 21 years old in 2019-20; 30/6/5 at 22 against the KD/Kyrie/Harden Nets healthy in 2020-21; 25/7/6 in 24 games at 23 shooting 43/39/80 >, 2021-22. Tatum has done just as much as this current batch of youth in this short sample size of theirs (outside of Lukas numbers) and had for more team success to go with it. Did Tatum have a bad 2022 finals, sure, and did he struggle against the heat last year, sure. But these other "young" guys haven't even gotta to those places to potentially struggle or succeed. Ant has what, 2 playoff series wins? Brunson has 1? Luka has been to a WCF. None of them touch the success Tatum has and he has basically been the Celtics best player since the playoffs of his rookie year.
If they don’t win I’d trade Tatum for another star. It will prove he can’t lead them to a title
You would be an idiot then
I guarantee you if the celtics win the chip while jt still playing the way he playing the media gone find a way to give him the mvp instead of say a guy like derrick white
As a basketball fan for 20+ years I can assure you every team that has lost in the finals would consider that a wasted yr
Don’t let these talking heads put nonsense in your minds 😂
Is this the same Tatum who dropped 46 at Milwaukee facing elimination and the Tatum who dropped 50 on Philly in gym 7 and went off in gym 6 at Philly in the 4th .no sport is overrated from him to gym than the nba
No wildes? No thanks!
Even better!
Didn’t ask
@@Boomi_Dog didn't ask what you Neanderthal?
Brou thinks Celtics would lose to the Lakers so not shocked he thinks we should be worried about Tatum
Aiiii listen, the media is overreacting. Tatum has the pressure lifted off his shoulders bc of his elite teammates. He doesnt need to go for 30+ when brown or white or KP can go OFFF. I dont think he cares to get as many points as he can like other stars in the league. If his team wins, the team wins. Lets not take it too far
Stop worrying about a man who has shown he is him!
Give me Tatum.. he wins.. if my teams winning fuck the stats
5 weeks. In the Miami loss he had more than 30.
interesting
Celtics crybabies wondering why we don’t trust them..we tried to trust y’all for over 6 years now and y’all blow it year after year. It’s time to doubt y’all every game to say the least 🤷🏽♂️ win a chip and you get all the doubt erased, simple.
Funny because Luka is shooting trash as well. He’s lucky he has Kyrie to cover up his horrible shooting
Nick you keep thinking that numbers make you win you are wrong again someone can have a bad shooting night but play great defense this is why Michael Jordan is the greatest player ever because if he's having a poor shooting night he sure is going to play great defense to win and still get thirty points even if it means getting to the free throw line this is why LeBron James has lost six times in the finals because he cares about his stats and doesn't play defense to shut you down period
Meanwhile at Knicks cheerleading camp.
Nick wright, GET A HAIRCUT.
3:20 did Nick’s guy LeBron have six bad games in the postseason in the 2011 finals
He didn’t have 6 bad games in the finals lol it was 2. Arguably the only two really bad games he’s ever had in his life. JT has a bad game every couple games
@@hectorrivera5416 he averaged 17 in the nba finals in a 6 game series. That’s like saying Steph curry didn’t have 6 bad games in 2016
@@KingHampton-ul1iw averages don’t matter here, his awful game was an 8 point which obviou killed his average if it wasn’t for that he prob would of been around 20-21 average in an era which is equivalent to scoring about 26-27 now. Also in the finals and once again known AS ONE OF THE HANDFUL OF GAMES THAT HES HAD THAT ARE ACTUALLY REALLY BAD/TERRIBLE. JT CONSISTENTLY HAS SEVERAL bad games in the playoffs EVERY YEAR against worst teams than that mavs team. Bro is just a glorified PG in his prime. He’s a really good player but never will be on that next tier
8:40 exactly what i hate for NBA and I'm losing interest in this scripted and subjective sport. the term "marginal contact" is just the back door left open for refs and the league manipulate games. so if the league want to promote any team, or to kill any team, the refs always allow one team defend with more "marginal contact" and limited the other team. AKA double standard, so even in the last 2 min report, everything is called "correctly"
JT most overrated player in the league
He wasn't even in MVP talks so how is he overrated?
@@Takes-5-Wolves because they talk about him as a Top 10 player in the league and he arguably isn’t