Jayson Tatum coasting vs. Cavs hurts him for tougher opponents, Luka's Game 1 struggles | THE HERD
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- The Boston Celtics coasted through the Cleveland Cavaliers in Game 1 120-95. However, Jayson Tatum finished with 18 points, off 7-of-19 shooting (0-for-5 from 3). Colin Cowherd reacts to the Celtics win, then explains why Tatum's quiet night is not necessarily the best sign if they move on and face tougher opponents. After eliminating the LA Clippers, the Dallas Mavericks came up short in their 117-95 Game 1 loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder. Luka Dončić finished with 19 points off 6-of-19 shooting and just 1-of-8 from behind the arc. Colin reacts to Luka's early struggles against OKC.
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JT isn’t cruising. He’s averaging 10-12 rebounds a game, 8-10 Assists a game. He’s doing amazing on defense, switching on nearly all 5 positions. On offense, he’s drawing double teams and dishing it to a wide open DWhite or Jaylen Brown. He’s doing what he has to do to win. Not be a 40 ppg scorer. That’s not his priority.
JT isn’t cruising. He’s averaging 10-12 rebounds a game, 8-10 Assists a game. He’s doing amazing on defense, switching on nearly all 5 positions. On offense, he’s drawing double teams and dishing it to a wide open DWhite or Jaylen Brown. He’s doing what he has to do to win. Not be a 40 ppg scorer. That’s not his priority.
Yeah I think JT can definitely go and get 40 as we have seen that from him before but the team is so deep so many people can score no need to do so.
that’s not his priority but you’re acting like he’s averaging 20 points on 10 shots. he’s taking shots, he just isn’t making them. props to him for not sitting in the corner and pouting and still finding ways to impact the game. however, despite how talented and deep boston is, he can’t play like this in every game if they make it to the finals. i’m not asking for 40. can i get 27 and 8 at least? cuz that’s his regular season average.
You’re actually SMART and understand the game 🤘🏽
I actually love how when JT is struggling he is t just trying to shoot his way out of it. He is definitely in a mini slump at the moment but his ability to stay engaged and not disrupt the offense is great to see.
You know ball
The glory of this Celtics team is they can overcome a bad Tatum or brown performance and still dominate but they will need him against the wolves or Knicks when the going gets tough
Bunch of choking Losers that will lose in the finals no matter who they play. Hope the Knicks can find a way to knock them out.
(Besides Derrick white)
“Knicks” lmaoo they’re closer to Cleveland than they are to Boston
Brunson is a high usage player and their primary scorer on all levels. You can tell each additional game he plays, he is getting more and more gassed. Much like Donovan Mitchell is for the Cavs. Cs have so many layers of scoring that there really no reliance on just Tatum.
Knicks arent going to have Robinson, Boston is very likely to have KP back by the ECF, they wont have much trouble with NYK at all.
@@crypto3936 they could be fully healthy and that series is going 5 games max
Tatum may have scored 45 in an elimination game against giannis, then set the record for most points scored in a game 7 the next year against the league MVP, but idk if he can take over a game yet
Cant do it consistently. Shrinks in big moments more often than rises
@@tynanbarnes6506u just made that up man lol he has more 35+ pt games facing elimination than anyone in the nba since he came in
Are elimination games big moments? 46 and 51 in two big elimination games.
Tatum is the most overrated player in the league, and he will be until he manages to win a ring
@@joem5002 only was in that position so often because he choked earlier in series and caused elimination games. He also has many generational choke jobs in elimination games
Seems like there’s been a lot of disrespectful discourse on Tatum bc he shot poorly (7-19, 18pts), but his rebounding, his assists, hockey assists, blocks, and playmaking rn is on a different level rn.
For those that think that of Tatum, just understand that there’s more than just scoring the ball to impact your team to win. I’d rather have Tatum average a cool 22/11/4 and win by 20+ than to have him average 30+ (on probably bad efficiency) and lose in dramatic fashion.
This makes sense for people who understand the game.
3 years ago all these pundits said he was a ball hog and that he doesn’t make his teammates better.
Now he’s not selfish enough and they ridicule him for passing. Its crazy how scrutinized he is.
I agree but when the games get close he has to deliver and not defer to role players
Celtics can’t beat anybody left in the western conference
@@tynanbarnes6506Im gonna come back to this comment in a couple of weeks and laugh at you. And you won’t respond
JT did go toe to toe with Ant earlier this season. He took over the game and Cs won in OT. Cs are 1 and 1 with the Timberwolves both of which went to OT.
Yes he sure did.Great OT win.
Tatum and Edwards don’t defend each other because they play different positions.
@@hectorirene763 the Cs switch on Defense nearly every possession because they are able to.
Do we forget Tatum scored 14 pts in the 4th quarter with 3 mins left on the clock in game 6 vs. Sixers last year in ECSF? They were down by like 6 pts or so. Did we forget when Tatum scored 51 pts in game 7 vs. sixers setting a playoff game 7 record with most pts? Did we forget in OT this season vs. Minnesota TWolves in TD Garden when Tatum took over in the 4th and OT scoring 20+ pts to end game with like 44 pts? Did we forget Tatum dropping 40+ pts against Milwaukee in game 7 of 2022 NBA ECSF? I never understood the Tatum hate, people just hate the Celtics so much they would hate on Tatum too.
He changes his opinion on Tatum and Luka every game. He compares him to harden every bad game
The story of these playoffs has been the changing of the guard! All the older guys are out/going to be out, and all the younger guys are dominating! As Sir Charles would say, basketball is a young man’s game and it’s never been more so than it is now! ❤
I’m not sure but I think Colin just complimented Tatum. lol
Colin takes Dallas then gives lecture after game 1 on how Luca predictably broke down.
You'd think we were down 0-3 the way Colin is talking about Tatum being the 3rd highest scorer and needing to take over. We're winning by an average of like 18 ppg through 5 wins lol.
I think that’s his point Celtics have it so easy. Can they turn it up when needed. Won’t be till the finals tho. Knicks are much to hurt even if they get past the pacers to put up that much of a fight.
@@philipcross6733 it's the coping that aggravates me. "the east is weak, no real challengers". I'm sorry this is the NBA in 2024. If you think these guys are bums you literally have ZERO idea what you are talking about.
What teams yall beat? Oh okay next
Not sure if Tatum can give you 46 on the road in an elimination game? Did you say EXACTLY 46 points? Gotta be trolling😂
They dont watch the games lol
This is why LeBron has the podcast. There are many people who don't watch and come on air to spread bs
yea not 46😂😂 51 to be exact
@@spooneycheese4903 he’s done both😂 46 on Giannis’ head and 51 on the “MVP”. Don’t know if I can trust him in big games tho🤦🏾♂️
@@spooneycheese4903 and like I said it wasn’t just a normal 46… bro was violating Giannis into oblivion, pulling up in his face like he didn’t even see him, disrespectfully, every jumper the net barely moved. One of those RARELY discussed masterclasses in recent memory
Tatum doesn't cruise at all. Cruising is Ben Simmons. The only thing I have a problem with Tatum is the Kobe stuff. Not the homaging, which is actually in good taste, the fact that he has to get his mind there to be top tier level. Jordan, Bird, and Kobe just had it naturally in them, even Kobe who super idolized Jordan. Tatum is elite right now.
Who ever said luka Didn’t work with Brunson? This dudes just lying
apparently getting to the WCF is "not working"
The Tatum and Celtics hate is unreal!!
Jason Tatum is doing more by being a teammate first and prioritizing wins. And save that energy! He better still have legs for game 5 in the Finals this time around…
Some sports media : "Donovan Mitchell/ Jalen Bronsun doesn't have any help. Needs a better team."
Also some ports Media : "Jayson Tatum isn't scoring 40. Is he coasting? Being carried? Is the the best player?"
Jayson Tatum will have 20/11/and 5.... literally responsible for (directly and indirectly) 30 of Boston's point and people will say he's being carried because other players had a hot hand and he went to them And played defense.
Colin is such a jagoff. Go Cavs!!
Colin you are such a clown 😂
Good take. I haven’t been too keen on the negativity of Tatum but this is reasonable and it checks off the boxes, it’s not pointing out that Tatum is not doing X,Y, and Z, in other takes around the NBA no one is pointing out his possible reasonings, and the potential benefit of why he is doing what he is doing. This man has made deep runs and knows what he has to do, and right now he knows his limits.
Tatum is averaging the most rebounds, assists, and rebounds for the Celtics. He's just not forcing shooting the ball when he's getting double or triple teamed.
Exactly
I'mma die hard mavs and huge Luka fan. His main weakness is taking so many tough 3s. He's shooting 53% from 2pt just like when they made the WCF. It's just his 3pt% is way down to 23% from his 38% regular season 3pt%. The shots just aren't falling rn
Tatum should’ve been the new face of the league, and have 1-2 championships.
Tatum reminds me of Paul George honestly. No holes in his game regularly the best player on his team but usually defers to the other guys on his team instead of inserting himself. PG was the best player in OkC but he deferred to Russ. He has been best player on the clippers for his entire time playing there cuz whether yall want to believe it or not Kwai has not been healthy or close to his regular self in LA but he deferred to Harden and Kwai and I think that’s y he is so inconsistent is cuz he plays so passively that when he does play aggressive he is forcing instead of letting things happen naturally.
Awesome take
This is Tatum hitting another level. In years past, he would try and shoot out of a slump and end up with tons of turnovers. He is taking care of the ball and rebounding on a high level. We already know he has the scoring abilit, its like he's becoming the perfect player.
This idea that the Celtics are going to just smash the Knicks is gonna feel so good to revisit
Colin ranks luka his number one player left in playoffs, then tears him apart the next day.
Easily influenced
Everytime he got the ball he had 10 eyes on him and all 5 guys moving towards him .. this team is built to beat that, and they are. Ofc his numbers dip but that's what happens when your double and triple covered
There isn't an excuse in the world that could justify 40/25 shooting splits.
Coasting? You're kidding, right? 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, 5 assists, good defense and garnered so much attention despite a poor shooting night that the entire rest of the team was wide open and got the pass on multiple occasions. If you don't know how the Celtics play basketball, don't come in with your amateur takes that hero ball is the only way. If you think it is, you haven't watched the Cs play all year.
You wont see JT have to really try until the finals, the knicks dont have Mitchell Robinson now Boston is very likely to have KP back for that series, in all honesty, they're probably going to annihilate the Knicks who are going to be gassed after the pacers series.
Tatum is doing what he set out to do this season, hes sacrificing to win a championship, he dont care about no scoring awards or stats, hes gonna play defense hard, make the easy pass when hes doubles, rebounds like a grown man and when teams sag off on defense hes going to light them up.
Cavs just won by 24 good call tho
The goal is to win. I don’t care how.
Comparing him to harden IS AN ANTI LUCA THING
Usage rate does not equal time of possession
Usage doesn't measure how much the ball is in a player's hand. Touches and time of possession are much better indicators...still, Luka is top ranked in all 3 categories.
I suspect if Tatum is purposely “coasting” then it’s that’s the head coach’s plan.
SGA numbers are little bit down because Thunder are done after 3 quarters he doesn't have to push and play the whole game. This guy is not watching thunder games!
He didn’t get a long with Brunson? The guy loved Brunson…
Great players need a team around them to win. It was true of Jordan, Kobe, Duncan, and the Warriors dynasty. Mavericks are not a strong enough team . Jokic can't create a dynasty in Denver if his team around him doesn't improve.
Tatum had a relationship with Kobe. So what? He’s about as Kobe as the last guy on the bench. He’s good. But he doesn’t enforce his will on a game like Kobe.
Colin is that wife that can’t be satisfied: “Luka needs to pick his spots, Tatum picks his spots but he needs to give me more….”
SGA’s numbers are down argument was straight trash 😂. His team is so good that he doesn’t need to average what he averaged in the regular season.
This is what I call “normie” takes.
Haven’t heard much from J Mac lately, intramural team must of got bounced in the first round
Tatum draws 3 players from the d each possession it’s a game within the game
Luka has to get stronger. The physical nature of simply playing defense combined with _playoff_ basketball equates to much more strain on your body.
I think Colin must've been listening to JMac yesterday when he picked Luka as the #1 player left in the playoffs. Now he sounds like he's leaning toward Tatum. He had him @ #6.
I don’t understand how Tatum who has dropped 45 and 50 point games in conference finals while providing elite defense is considered a question mark over Jalen Brunson who’s had high scoring games in the 1st and 2nd round. What has Brunson proven? Did we not see Booker do even better last yr. Is Brunson playing defense on the level of Tatum?
The Celtics have only played 6 playoff games and they’ve won 4 by over 20 points. The only game they lost the Heat went nuts and made 23 3’s on over 50% shooting. Tatum hasn’t taken over a game because they haven’t needed him to. The Celtics haven’t even kicked it up to playoff level effort yet if you actually watch the games. It still feels like regular season. Really hoping the Knicks can at least challenge them.
That's his point he's saying will Tatum take over the game when he needs to against a more competitive opponent.
I’d rather him have this slump now & not later
Why is Luka having a high usage rate when they have Kyrie. Shoulden't Kyrie also have the ball to get pressure of Luka?
Kobe did not care about giving it to shaq. That’s why they lost to the pistons
Forget about all that Colin, what happened to NUGGETS,!??!
Knicks and Wolves will be tougher but the Celtics have multiple guys that can go off. They need superstar Tatum to go off to win those close games tho
feels like they dont really have to play close games lol
The reason the nfl passing leaders don’t win as many games, is bc they are running the ball more in the 4th quarter than teams that lose a lot of games. It has nothing to do w quarterbacks being worn down from passing too much. Colin always picks a stat and uses it out of context in the game.
Wolves defense would delete porzingis so he better wake up
Jason Tatum is Dak Prescott
That passing yard stat over the last 6 years is really dumb. It's really circumstantial.
Jt has flipped the switch for games every year give me a break
Man this dude is the ultimate yap master. Picked Dallas just 24 hours ago now Luka is done after 1 game
He also said Denver is the next dynasty in the NBA. Now he's turned on them too 😂😂
Colinn just gave 20 excuses on why Luka is playing terrible
lol cruising. Dude is playing elite defense and drawing doubles and making the right play and finding the open man. Yea his shot has been off but it'll come right back. How do the guys get paid to analyze sports. Is Tatum having his best lately no but he's been really good and not being selfish. Hes smart and that's why he's likely gonna get a chip or at least the finals
Tatum has more playoff points (2,363) than, Giannis, Embid, Dame, Joker, Luka. The hate is crazy, dude averaged 30 last year and they said he doesn't make his team mates better, now he's making his team better and they want him to score more. He also plays both sides of the ball.
was this segment just Colin yapping
It'll only be "better" if Tates CAN turn it on when needed, consistently. His ghost performances in big games are perplexing at times
Just from the title I can tell Colin isnt watching the Celtics, but still gonna give us his poorly considered but confidently communicated opinion
Colin acts like is Luka plays like Tatum that the team would still win.
Tatum is cooked. Celtics should tear it down and build around a potential top 5 guy. Tatum to OKC for 4 first rounders????
JT will get a few 40 pieces and maybe a 50 piece in this run. I think they’ll win the chip
What happened to the Kobe mentality in the finals against golden state or last year against Miami? When things aren’t easy Tatum disappears
It's not usage rate. It's the fact that he had to play 38+ minutes and even averaged 40 minutes in a month during the regular season just to keep the team afloat. The mileage just caught up to him and he got injured in the Clippers series. But now he has no time to rest and heal. Having 4 days off is nothing when you have a knee sprain and have inflammation. That takes weeks or even a month to properly heal back to 100%. It's just a shame we don't get the usual beast Luka we're so used to seeing in the Playoffs. I hope the Mavs can figure things out while Luka is hobbled up, but it will be tough. Clippers are a much older team and when their 3s weren't falling, they fell apart, but the Thunder are the youngest team in the league and can shoot 3s at a good efficiency. It's going to be tough for the Mavs. We'll have to wait and see.
Delusional af 😂😂😂😂
@@OMG-si3wn Nice counter argument.
Ant, Jokic, Brunson and Tatum have played more minutes this season than Luka. Usage rate is definitely why he's gassed and breaking down. When your offense is so heavily tailored to revolving around 1 player, it's going to wear on that 1 player. Ant and Tatum look completely fine right now despite their minutes because of how their teams are structured and getting others involved.
Lu dort has a lot to do with it
Everyone’s numbers goes down in the playoffs 😂.
Luka is hurt. Thus take won't end well.
If NFL teams have a lead, they run the ball. That's why high-volume passers don't win as much. You don't have to pass as much if you're winning. Not a good analogy.
If Luka is Dirk, that's a success. No one is MJ.
😂😂😂😂😂 Why R U Still Getting paid
Luka didn’t get along with Brunson? That’s a blatant lie
Who cares WHO the bleep is scoring, as long somebody is, and with Boston's depth in their starting 5, not to mention the deepest bench in the NBA, how often do you really think that the ENTIRE team is going to go stone cold?!? Hmm?
I love the respect he's giving JT though, because I think he truly deserves it. He's also right about MVP awards - they're basically worthless, and for JT? I'm sure he'd MUCH rather have a Finals MVP, than a 'lowly' league MVP...ANY DAY!
On the usage issue? With Boston it isn't an issue whatsoever, it's a given. Why? Because they're ALL geniuses at governing the guy's minutes - from the docs, to the trainers, to the coaches, and all the way down to the water boy...!
Y’all got smoked for LeBron Katie and Steph, but Luke has been playing like absolute hot trash and nobody says anything… That’s the MVP?…
How about Luka play off ball 😳
Put Luka on Boston over the years they have Championships. Luka is injured. When he is healthy he is an all time playoff player. This is a bad take Collin. What help has Luka had over the years?
Doesn't work like that. The roster construction would not be the same.
Poor Luka. Nobody watches him and just talk out of their necks. I used to like colin
Sports analyst is an easy job. Form all opinions and content based on Box Scores.
My god you literally had two points and just repeated them 15 times for 8 minutes, thats just not good content
Colin has become just a headlines guy because it’s showing he’s not doing any research and his point are so lackluster
Celtics win by 30 but let’s talk about how Tatum sucks. I hate the media.
The Knicks will be this year’s Miami Heat.
Bye-Bye Celtics.
Luka played like trash last night. Why doesn't he get criticized like everyone else.
Tatum is 22/88 from this postseason…!!! 😂🤷♂️🚮
1 view, wow really fell off
Luka and Jokic lost? Snowflakes in shambles.
JT is not better than Luka stop it
This is a very dumb argument, Tatum has always been a very selfish player and he has been criticize for that a lot over the years; yet, like anything in life, he is maturing and is realizing that for him to win a championship, he has to depend on others. Brown is as good as Tatum and White is developing into a Superstar in front of our eyes, and I think he is finally realizing that for the Celtics to win a championship, he has to take a step back and allow others to shine because when you are a soldier of one, you will end up like Donovin Mitchel, tired and resting for a whole quarter....Brown last year, went through the same ordeal and Tatum is doing that this year...they realize that as a team no one can beat them, but once they start Iso hunting, the whole team falls....
This is an especially stupid take, even coming from him
This take is horrible...tatum over Luka. I'm not a Dallas fan... but this isn't right at all
Yes Tatum over Luka. Tatum's scoring hasn't been the best, but rebounding, assists, and the defense have been absolute masterclass. His contribution plays a major impact to why other teams are having low-scoring games.
@swup9851 na...even last year they lost to a heat team that was completely injured. Would have been swept but gabe vincent sprained his ankle too. Then they come back against the heat bench and in the last game tatum sprains his ankle and boom that's why they lost. He is not HIM. Luka, antman, joker, embid, giannis, butler, AD all over tatum easily. Actually Brown has more dog in him.
@@lopezvipthe series before the Heat series, he took over to win it. You're just being selective. Also, if Luka could play defense as well as Tatum the Mavs would be doing a lot better.
@riffsthatkill2180 exactly, the series before...not the series that mattered. Thanks for proving my point.
Celtics would lose to any of the remaining western conference teams. There are 4 guys on the Celtics roster that are more of a leader than Tatum, none of them are Porzingis, another career shrinker (and injury prone). I hope the Knicks can manage to knock them off, because the Celtics don’t even deserve the L they’d take in the finals
You sound hurt and bitter…my goodness!
Lol, this kid thinks the Knicks have a better shot than the Celtics....
@@riffsthatkill2180no he probably became minnesota fan a couple of days ago so he wants the easier matchup in the finals by playing the knicks lmao
Colin the 🤡
Jayson taint um is so boring
Luka and Tatum are probably the most overrated players in the NBA. They'll never win a ring until they become the 2nd or 3rd scorer on the team
Pretty bad take, makes you sound like you think winning championships is about having the best scorer. It's not. There's something else in basketball called defense, and another thing called selflessness, that lead to rings. Tatums got both.