I have to say, I recently purchased a School Bus with a C8.3 Cummins which I believe could benefit from some electrical lift pump to assist the block mounted mechanical lift pump pulling through 50ft of 1/2 fuel lines (all new lines & OEM lift pump). That said, this beef between FASS and AirDog seems like a potentially manufactured east coast west coast rap style beef to drive eyeballs to ads/videos and boost sales for both companies. Ultimately I have decided to get a Vortex air/diesel fuel separator and a FuelLab 12v pump. Perhaps all this drama is organic in nature, but it has a distinctly manufactured vibe and if it is in fact organic in nature I have to question the logic/maturity of the leadership of AirDog for even acknowledging and participating in this juvenile back and forth. So inconclusion I am straying from the drama, manufactured or not and going with tried and tested suppliers and equipment albeit a bit pricier, because my spidy senses are smelling some BS here.
So why make the customer go through the extra hassle of having to call you to get reference numbers when you can just list it on the website? Counter productive and time consuming much?
@@molly7871 it's a hassle if you need a filter and it's after Airdog business hours, or your hours do not match up with theirs. Pretty simple to post a cross-reference.
I understand that both Brands were loud in the beginning but both pumps are extremely quiet now. What I don't understand is why people complain about loud pump on a truck with an exhaust system that would make Hells Angels Bikers cringe
Well said fellas!! Nice upgrades, that video and couple other ones I watched covered alot of info I will be in touch soon to purchase a pump .. all that negative shessssh there’ jealous!!🤣,
I am sure they all have there issues, just be leary , I purchased mine a year and a half ago and the pump is junk. I called and was told to perform a series of tests and so I did ... still pump is shot. Now it's been over 3 months I have been running again without a lift pump. At 840 bux these things are not inexpensive enough to continuously have to purchase
I have a Fass on my super duty and it’s obnoxiously loud. I will say it has been on there for about a 100,000 miles though . I’ve just purchased an air Dog 1 for my Dodge and I’m very happy with how quiet it is as well as their customer service is awesome.
Customer Service is Top Notch. I received the DF-165 with the motor I bought from a good friend. I guess it was manufactured around 2008 and it ran on another truck previous to the owner I got it from. It had sat on shelves between owners and I installed it on my truck in 2013. In 2017 the pump motor failed and I was able to get a replacement at a reduced cost. The support tech pulled up the serial number and we confirmed the original owner (friend of mine too). I waited to install it back into the system having other issues to address but, it's back in now and the truck is much happier.
a company that needs to bash a competitor is one I wont buy from. Its like Joe and Kamala bashing Trump because they dont have any accomplishments to boast.
How can one introduce air back into the system without having radius cuts. The only way is to have cavitation, whereas, the fluid vaporizes due to low pressures.
Well done. One of the reasons I actually chose an AirDog unit over the competitor (we all know who they are, even though y'all remained classy) was because AirDog didn't try to size itself up to you-know-who, which I personally like. You-know-who's BS physics claims also turned me off to them before y'all put out the video. They probably still have a good product, but they are just so sleazy PR wise.
I feel bad for you guys. There's so much dirt going on between two competing companies. Rumor on the street was, a father-son business went by the way of the son having issues working for pop and split to form his own company - FASS. Yesterday, I spoke to Dynamite Diesel (DDP) in Washington state on injector failures and, shockingly - he says injectors still fail due to clogging even with a FASS or Airdog but, I don't think he factored in dirty fuel supply lines post fuel air system. When doing my gasser, I found FOD was being introduced into the injectors via the fuel rails themselves. Cold rolled steel, coating eroded, rust formed, dislodged and clogged my injectors. I made my own fuel rails out of billet aluminum and switched all supply lines over to Teflon lined SS braided AN-type fuel supply lines and an-inline fuel filter at the fuel rails. I haven't had a single issue to date with injector FOD clogging up. I can attest that I've got hundreds of thousands of miles on my Cummins injectors without using a fuel air separation system without issue so far. I am in the process of sourcing DDP injectors. DDP recommended installing one of these systems, he says both are equally as good design wise. CM
I bought my Airdog 100 back in 2006. Installed it at 30k miles. I now have 227k miles on my truck. The pump just blew a fuse today. I ordered a brand new Airdog I 4G 100 tonight.
i was tossed up between the other guys or you, after a weekends worth of research and personal opinions i chose the airdog 2 4g-165-df. install was super easy and i couldnt be happier, this was my first lift pump install and will now only use and recommend AirDog.
Wow. Before watching this video I had airdog way ahead of fass regarding my choice for a new lift pump for my 05 5.9. I think you guys are fortunate that most of the videos on UA-cam from mechanics with experience with both systems choose airdog.
i gotta say your costumer service , #1 you guys are very knowledgeable. and sent parts next day . and your pump works great . It got rid of all the short comings of the stock pump on my 09 f250. thanks . And to your competitors. I hope they learn what karma is.
Got a airdog 2 on my 03 and it is loud I can hear it sitting in my truck with the key on and hear it sometimes when truck running.. but call me strang but I like the hum. Let's me know before I even start my truck that its working
The fass on my Cummins is obnoxiously loud and it's just a "fuel flow enhancer" just a little lift pump. Im gonna get a Duramax and switch to airdog. I don't wanna invest too much more into my truck.
I just put the 4G 165 on my 6.7 Cummins and it’s amazing it really smoothed out my idle and it feels a bit more peppy also gained about 1 mpg. A lot less regen cycles. It’s pretty quiet to me.
Both are good products, and in "Their" ad they never said AirDog... 🤔 but a heater would be s great addition. When I see this I will be switching. Good video.
I purchased the Airdog II 4g for my 6.0 on black friday, went to install on my truck and got it all hooked up. Turned the key and it began dumping out fuel from where the base meets the motor. Called Pureflow AirDog and spoke with Chris and he told me to take apart the pump, turns out the o-ring was completely ripped in half... He overnighted me a new o-ring and it worked perfectly. Just disappointing that this happened after spending $700 on the pump..
Sorry to hear that happened, Brad. We understand it can be frustrating. We are human and do not use machines to assemble our pumps. We assemble many of these pumps a day and very few mistakes do, unfortunately, happen.
your quality control couldn't detect a failed oring? Might need less "good ol boys" running things and get some quality control. 700 for a pump and some filters is insane. any low hr failures is unacceptable.
Gauge a company (or a man) not by how they react when things go right but how they act when things go wrong. Sell enough products and something will go wrong. So when they step up you know the measure of the man.
Great video. I just purchased and had installed one of your units on my 2011 Duramax that currently has 467k miles on it - yes a little late in installing your pump. I will definitely keep your company informed on my progress of many, many miles and smiles.
I've been leaning your way and after watching this video I was prompted to look at your "competitor's" ads and claims.......... BLUF; I'm going with Airdog. I hope the customer service is as good as your videos.
For any looking at this video and reading these comments. If your interested in these pumps by far your in the right place “ I have a 2012 6.7 f250 kr I work in the oil and gas industry my truck idles for hours on end here recently I picked up fuel contamination water and rust and other debris from a fueling station airdog has been on my truck for about 3 years or so now I couldn’t be happier my filters caught all the debris and water from getting to my top filter and pump which can cause catastrophic failure on the fuel system about a 12k repair bill after dropping my tank changing filters and back flushing my lines I see just a tad bit of stuff on my last filter change after a few 100 miles but I’m sure that could of been what was left in my lines or the gerotar itself don’t just take my word for it airdog really did save me and I couldn’t be more thankful” for those who are thinking about doing it by all means go for it it will be worth in in the long run!!!
A year ago, after having some major issues with the stock system on my '08 6.4l F350, I decided to go with an after market system. Eventually I decided on the AirDog II 4G 165. Easy install (The vendor included a sump which I also installed); only took a couple hours. Darned quiet pump. It is mounted inside the frame just in front of the tank; There is no other place to put it on my truck without modifying other items. A big plus is the removal of the frame rail water separator/filter which is always a pain to change and reprime. A minus is the loss of the water in fuel warning, although I have never found water in the AirDog separator. Some of the advertising claims are easier starting (Nope. It does now start AS easy as the OEM system); better fuel mileage (Nope. At least not any worse.); better/smoother acceleration (OH, YEAH! No running out of fuel no matter how hard or long I keep my foot in it.) I have not had a problem finding filters--NAPA and their prices are almost everywhere. Over all, I am real happy with my choice. Every vendor sells it at virtually the same price; the one I picked also included their sump, so that's the one I bought. The only criticism is, during installation I wasn't anywhere near the torque specified for the bolts when the mounting plate started to bend. I took that as close enough. Great product, thank you.
Always was told don’t buy airdog At shops fass always talks how there the best I never bought a fass they were always a little more Money So I bought air dog On 4 ram diesels all had or my truck currently has a airdog never ever have I had one problem at all with all of them I always bought the 150 gph changed filters 2 times a year
Just bought one of these and installed it in 2 hours. Very simple to do. I do have a question. If im driving down the road, and a fuse blows or the motor stops for some reason. Will the stock injector pump be able to pull fuel through this system until i get something fixed? Or will i be out of luck?
Both companies make great product the way I see it flip a coin you can't go wrong with either and both stand behind there product what ever you do get one to save your injectors
The only place where cavitation occurs is in a vacuum or on the suction side of the pump. And even if cavitation happens, the bubbles go away as soon as they are pressurized. On the pressure side of the pump, there is no place to introduce any air in the system that isn't already there.
I have an LBZ 07' was thinking about putting one on . I put a Banks intercooler, 4"Exaust and larger boost tube .was hoping to improve milage more ! What have you picked up ,milage wise ?
James Thomas with my the lift pump alone maybe 1 mile or possibly a little more. But it’s throttle response is better. It’s more crisp and the pedal doesn’t feel as heavy as before to make it move. Hit the throttle and it’s ready to go. The pump in my theory doesn’t give you mileage but makes it run so much easier you inadvertently pick up mileage from the cp3 pump not having to work as hard. But the difference is definitely night and day on acceleration. If I had a lighter foot I’m sure the mileage would be more but I mainly got it for helping/assisting the fuel pump. Worth every penny.
@@GOFast-dy4jk That's what i want Too . We were coming back from the river last week ,I stabbed it ! I don't like that hesitation .If I can pick up an extra mile per gallon i'm good with that too .I'm figuring in 2 years ,40'000 miles all I've done will pay for itself and let my truck breath and run that much easier .
The Airdogs are definitely the quietest pumps on the market. I have Installed FASS and they are extreemely loud, ( and annoying). I have an Airdog 1 on my 2nd gen Dodge and you can't even hear it run!! Keep it up guys!!
Well if you’re talking about the competitor I think you’re talking about you have to buy a mounting bracket with their pump they don’t offer it with the pump your pump comes with a mounting bracket your pump tucks way up in the truck there is hangs way down like almost touching the road
So far from what I've seen on the internet, airdog is the way to go over fass. Then I see this video and these two guys haven't worked 2 years for airdog. How bad is your turnover rate?
Stealthcon69 If you don't plan on upgrading to larger injectors or injection pump, the A6SPBC259 (100-4G) will be the kit you want. In case you plan on upgrading other fuel system components down the road, I would recommend the A6SABC409 (165-4G) model. Here is a link to the installation manual: www.pureflowairdog.com/manuals/A5SABC112.pdf
Of course we would like customers to buy our filters, but we do have crossover part numbers listed on our website now. You just need to look for our part number on the website and the crossover part numbers are in the description.
so if you know the cross reference numbers for other mfr filters, then post them on your website. airdog is not apple. not a closed ecosystem. but, a good video.
The warranty term is lifetime as long as you send in your warranty card or can prove you are the original purchaser with a receipt or invoice from where you purchased the pump.
I've been a mechanic for years,, yes all the crap about filters is a non issue and a bunch of crap that is not worth consideration fact is the newest FASS system is head and shoulders above in design and function. its time for AirDog to update their design, yes it works well, I have one on my DuraMax for 10+ years with zero issues and use straight water to lower EGT while towing. If AirDog would update their wiring size, and pump body I would consider getting one for my 40' Diesel Pusher Motorhome, I will go with the FASS on my rig... may be splitting hairs as both are top quality systems, its just that FASS has taken the time to make improvements,,, JUST the 10gauge wires and better connectors is reason alone for me to choose FASS. If AirDog where a lot cheaper I may go with them as I know their system has worked well for me over 10 years use, being virtually the same price Ill go with FASS for electrical upgrades. AirDog upgrade your system or lower your price to stay in competition
We have upgraded our wiring harness and connectors to be 12Ga from the battery all the way to the wires on the motor. The connectors are now metripack 280 connectors to handle the higher amp draw for high pressure applications. 10Ga doesn't do a whole lot when you leave your motor wiring 14Ga.
@@AirDogSales Technically wiring ampacity DOES make a difference from length...there's charts to prove it. All the extra ports on the FASS is what pushed it for me as well as the larger wire. I do wish the FASS height was lower like the AD, as I would have preferred inside the frame rail but on a Dmax the filters hang just below the frame rail which wasn't acceptable for me. But I also had to Fab my own bracket to shift the unit over and tuck it up as it hit the filler tube and hung too low otherwise.
All we do is advertise our products while they continue to attack us. We can't let these false ads go without doing something about it. We don't have a beef with Aeromotive.
My pump failed me today about 3 hours ago. Kinda sucks, I'm not shure why it failed I have to wate for your costemer service to open. No one is ancering the phone. My confidence is high that airdog will assist me. It just sucks I'm dead in the driveway till I fix this thing.
Hey guys i got the Air -Dog 4G 165hp on my 03 Dodge 2500 ok i got my Mechanic install it all he did was install it he told me later get a Fuel pressure gauge reads up to 100 ok i did he installed that he set it at 80 it digital ive had it for 4 mths already now the gauge shows 70 and when i'm on the highway it drops to 56-57-66 i called the air dog people he said wait u need to turn it down i told him we never messed with the pump cause it comes from the factory already at 15psi so we never move it up or down we left it as is he kept telling it needs to be turned down i told but y i'm i gonna tell my mechanic to mess with it,,,,Can you tell me something different Thanks...
70psi is way too high for a Cummins. With that fuel pressure gauge in, turn the adjuster out, CCW, untill the pressure reads 15-17psi. Back the jam nut off with a 9/16" wrench and take a flat blade screwdriver to back the pressure down.
That dude and his mechanic sound like they are both retards 😂 his mechanic probably mainly works on gas cars trying to set the pressure that high. If you bought the pump for the cummins your cooking your pump and your fuel system. Why do you want someone to tell your something different so you can be right ? And cant exept that fact? your wrong lol the guy who told you to turn it down listen to him Dip shit
I have to say, I recently purchased a School Bus with a C8.3 Cummins which I believe could benefit from some electrical lift pump to assist the block mounted mechanical lift pump pulling through 50ft of 1/2 fuel lines (all new lines & OEM lift pump). That said, this beef between FASS and AirDog seems like a potentially manufactured east coast west coast rap style beef to drive eyeballs to ads/videos and boost sales for both companies. Ultimately I have decided to get a Vortex air/diesel fuel separator and a FuelLab 12v pump. Perhaps all this drama is organic in nature, but it has a distinctly manufactured vibe and if it is in fact organic in nature I have to question the logic/maturity of the leadership of AirDog for even acknowledging and participating in this juvenile back and forth. So inconclusion I am straying from the drama, manufactured or not and going with tried and tested suppliers and equipment albeit a bit pricier, because my spidy senses are smelling some BS here.
So why make the customer go through the extra hassle of having to call you to get reference numbers when you can just list it on the website? Counter productive and time consuming much?
What is the hassle of a phone call? It's not a hassle at all. They are like any other company that sells stuff. They want you to buy their filter.
@@molly7871 it's a hassle if you need a filter and it's after Airdog business hours, or your hours do not match up with theirs. Pretty simple to post a cross-reference.
@@bigboreracing356 I think the word you're looking for is "too" stupid. 🤦♂️🤷♂️😂
I understand that both Brands were loud in the beginning but both pumps are extremely quiet now. What I don't understand is why people complain about loud pump on a truck with an exhaust system that would make Hells Angels Bikers cringe
Been 4 years, where are those heaters at!?
Well said fellas!!
Nice upgrades, that video and couple other ones I watched covered alot of info I will be in touch soon to purchase a pump .. all that negative shessssh there’ jealous!!🤣,
I am sure they all have there issues, just be leary , I purchased mine a year and a half ago and the pump is junk. I called and was told to perform a series of tests and so I did ... still pump is shot. Now it's been over 3 months I have been running again without a lift pump. At 840 bux these things are not inexpensive enough to continuously have to purchase
I have a Fass on my super duty and it’s obnoxiously loud. I will say it has been on there for about a 100,000 miles though . I’ve just purchased an air Dog 1 for my Dodge and I’m very happy with how quiet it is as well as their customer service is awesome.
I'll only run Air dog I have got all my friends on Air dog they love them u guys stick to ur word and I proudly be a supporter of Air dog
Customer Service is Top Notch. I received the DF-165 with the motor I bought from a good friend. I guess it was manufactured around 2008 and it ran on another truck previous to the owner I got it from. It had sat on shelves between owners and I installed it on my truck in 2013. In 2017 the pump motor failed and I was able to get a replacement at a reduced cost. The support tech pulled up the serial number and we confirmed the original owner (friend of mine too). I waited to install it back into the system having other issues to address but, it's back in now and the truck is much happier.
a company that needs to bash a competitor is one I wont buy from. Its like Joe and Kamala bashing Trump because they dont have any accomplishments to boast.
How can one introduce air back into the system without having radius cuts. The only way is to have cavitation, whereas, the fluid vaporizes due to low pressures.
Well done. One of the reasons I actually chose an AirDog unit over the competitor (we all know who they are, even though y'all remained classy) was because AirDog didn't try to size itself up to you-know-who, which I personally like. You-know-who's BS physics claims also turned me off to them before y'all put out the video. They probably still have a good product, but they are just so sleazy PR wise.
I feel bad for you guys. There's so much dirt going on between two competing companies. Rumor on the street was, a father-son business went by the way of the son having issues working for pop and split to form his own company - FASS.
Yesterday, I spoke to Dynamite Diesel (DDP) in Washington state on injector failures and, shockingly - he says injectors still fail due to clogging even with a FASS or Airdog but, I don't think he factored in dirty fuel supply lines post fuel air system. When doing my gasser, I found FOD was being introduced into the injectors via the fuel rails themselves. Cold rolled steel, coating eroded, rust formed, dislodged and clogged my injectors. I made my own fuel rails out of billet aluminum and switched all supply lines over to Teflon lined SS braided AN-type fuel supply lines and an-inline fuel filter at the fuel rails. I haven't had a single issue to date with injector FOD clogging up.
I can attest that I've got hundreds of thousands of miles on my Cummins injectors without using a fuel air separation system without issue so far. I am in the process of sourcing DDP injectors. DDP recommended installing one of these systems, he says both are equally as good design wise.
CM
The story you heard im pretty sure is right.
I bought my Airdog 100 back in 2006. Installed it at 30k miles. I now have 227k miles on my truck. The pump just blew a fuse today. I ordered a brand new Airdog I 4G 100 tonight.
Just list them on your site.
You didn't mention the change in velocity if the flow volume stays the same when the size of the conductor is reduced.
You are correct, the reduced diameter will increase fuel velocity. We didn't mention it because the statement was about fuel flow.
i was tossed up between the other guys or you, after a weekends worth of research and personal opinions i chose the airdog 2 4g-165-df. install was super easy and i couldnt be happier, this was my first lift pump install and will now only use and recommend AirDog.
Thank you for the awesome feedback on our fuel system!
@@AirDogSales I have come to the same conclusion. My only question is where are you at with the fuel heaters?
Wow. Before watching this video I had airdog way ahead of fass regarding my choice for a new lift pump for my 05 5.9. I think you guys are fortunate that most of the videos on UA-cam from mechanics with experience with both systems choose airdog.
I just bought a 5g setup for a 06 6.0, can’t wait to get it installed!!!
i gotta say your costumer service , #1 you guys are very knowledgeable. and sent parts next day . and your pump works great . It got rid of all the short comings of the stock pump on my 09 f250. thanks . And to your competitors. I hope they learn what karma is.
Got a airdog 2 on my 03 and it is loud I can hear it sitting in my truck with the key on and hear it sometimes when truck running.. but call me strang but I like the hum. Let's me know before I even start my truck that its working
The fass on my Cummins is obnoxiously loud and it's just a "fuel flow enhancer" just a little lift pump. Im gonna get a Duramax and switch to airdog. I don't wanna invest too much more into my truck.
Why do these pumps never go on sale?
They don’t have to
my Airdog pump has been in service 5 years and have not had a bit of trouble with it. no reason to switch now.
I've been debating on which company to go with, but now I know 👍🏽. I'll be ordering one soon & thanks for this video.
I just put the 4G 165 on my 6.7 Cummins and it’s amazing it really smoothed out my idle and it feels a bit more peppy also gained about 1 mpg. A lot less regen cycles. It’s pretty quiet to me.
Great to hear! Thank you for the feedback!
Way to stay classy guys!
I Just ordered my Airdog 2 4g for my f-250 6.0!
P1V1=P2V2. Do the math. They are right
Both are good products, and in "Their" ad they never said AirDog... 🤔 but a heater would be s great addition. When I see this I will be switching. Good video.
I purchased the Airdog II 4g for my 6.0 on black friday, went to install on my truck and got it all hooked up. Turned the key and it began dumping out fuel from where the base meets the motor. Called Pureflow AirDog and spoke with Chris and he told me to take apart the pump, turns out the o-ring was completely ripped in half... He overnighted me a new o-ring and it worked perfectly. Just disappointing that this happened after spending $700 on the pump..
Sorry to hear that happened, Brad. We understand it can be frustrating. We are human and do not use machines to assemble our pumps. We assemble many of these pumps a day and very few mistakes do, unfortunately, happen.
I get it, it works now and that's whats important.
your quality control couldn't detect a failed oring? Might need less "good ol boys" running things and get some quality control. 700 for a pump and some filters is insane. any low hr failures is unacceptable.
Gauge a company (or a man) not by how they react when things go right but how they act when things go wrong. Sell enough products and something will go wrong. So when they step up you know the measure of the man.
Great video. I just purchased and had installed one of your units on my 2011 Duramax that currently has 467k miles on it - yes a little late in installing your pump. I will definitely keep your company informed on my progress of many, many miles and smiles.
Any CP4 issues? ... lol I know, old old reply.
I would also like to know if your 2011 duramax has had an cp4 issues and if so at what mileage?
@@zethclide5339 I sold the truck with 502,000 miles on it and the airdog performed flawlessly. I never had any issues with the cp4.
Resin filled plastics. So not glass fibre reinforced plastics?
I've been leaning your way and after watching this video I was prompted to look at your "competitor's" ads and claims.......... BLUF; I'm going with Airdog. I hope the customer service is as good as your videos.
I had an issue with my airdog which was a part defect. Their PR was awesome they sent me a new one within 3 days!
Please which CAT filter fit on these air dogs?
I’m getting an air dog pump just because JW Montoya has them and reviews them very well in detail 😅
For any looking at this video and reading these comments. If your interested in these pumps by far your in the right place “ I have a 2012 6.7 f250 kr I work in the oil and gas industry my truck idles for hours on end here recently I picked up fuel contamination water and rust and other debris from a fueling station airdog has been on my truck for about 3 years or so now I couldn’t be happier my filters caught all the debris and water from getting to my top filter and pump which can cause catastrophic failure on the fuel system about a 12k repair bill after dropping my tank changing filters and back flushing my lines I see just a tad bit of stuff on my last filter change after a few 100 miles but I’m sure that could of been what was left in my lines or the gerotar itself don’t just take my word for it airdog really did save me and I couldn’t be more thankful” for those who are thinking about doing it by all means go for it it will be worth in in the long run!!!
A year ago, after having some major issues with the stock system on my '08 6.4l F350, I decided to go with an after market system. Eventually I decided on the AirDog II 4G 165. Easy install (The vendor included a sump which I also installed); only took a couple hours. Darned quiet pump. It is mounted inside the frame just in front of the tank; There is no other place to put it on my truck without modifying other items. A big plus is the removal of the frame rail water separator/filter which is always a pain to change and reprime. A minus is the loss of the water in fuel warning, although I have never found water in the AirDog separator. Some of the advertising claims are easier starting (Nope. It does now start AS easy as the OEM system); better fuel mileage (Nope. At least not any worse.); better/smoother acceleration (OH, YEAH! No running out of fuel no matter how hard or long I keep my foot in it.) I have not had a problem finding filters--NAPA and their prices are almost everywhere. Over all, I am real happy with my choice. Every vendor sells it at virtually the same price; the one I picked also included their sump, so that's the one I bought.
The only criticism is, during installation I wasn't anywhere near the torque specified for the bolts when the mounting plate started to bend. I took that as close enough.
Great product, thank you.
Always was told don’t buy airdog At shops fass always talks how there the best I never bought a fass they were always a little more
Money So I bought air dog On 4 ram diesels all had or my truck currently has a airdog never ever have I had one problem at all with all of them I always bought the 150 gph changed filters 2 times a year
I just watched two FASS videos and if the pumps are like the people trying to sell them seem, they are junk.
Shop put my air dog in. Nice. But they said my fuel gauge don’t work. ??? Like they did not hook up stock wire for some reason. 😮
Just bought one of these and installed it in 2 hours. Very simple to do. I do have a question. If im driving down the road, and a fuse blows or the motor stops for some reason. Will the stock injector pump be able to pull fuel through this system until i get something fixed? Or will i be out of luck?
They told me on the phone that it is a passive pull through design. Shouldn't leave you stranded.
Both companies make great product the way I see it flip a coin you can't go wrong with either and both stand behind there product what ever you do get one to save your injectors
Well said Colby
That maybe except the Slandering Of Airdog that would be a Principle issue you don't get to lie about your competition to make a sale
90 degree fitting will create air in the system if the pump is running enough pressure though right? You can always turn the pump down so it doesnt.
The only place where cavitation occurs is in a vacuum or on the suction side of the pump. And even if cavitation happens, the bubbles go away as soon as they are pressurized. On the pressure side of the pump, there is no place to introduce any air in the system that isn't already there.
Do you make a heating element for your product? I live in maine amen really. I would really like to have one
We don't, but BD Diesel makes one that will go on our pumps.
Just installed a 4g II 100gph on my lbz. It’s made a noticeable difference in the way my pickup runs and picked up a little fuel mileage as well.
I have an LBZ 07' was thinking about putting one on . I put a Banks intercooler, 4"Exaust and larger boost tube .was hoping to improve milage more ! What have you picked up ,milage wise ?
James Thomas with my the lift pump alone maybe 1 mile or possibly a little more. But it’s throttle response is better. It’s more crisp and the pedal doesn’t feel as heavy as before to make it move. Hit the throttle and it’s ready to go. The pump in my theory doesn’t give you mileage but makes it run so much easier you inadvertently pick up mileage from the cp3 pump not having to work as hard. But the difference is definitely night and day on acceleration. If I had a lighter foot I’m sure the mileage would be more but I mainly got it for helping/assisting the fuel pump. Worth every penny.
@@GOFast-dy4jk That's what i want Too . We were coming back from the river last week ,I stabbed it ! I don't like that hesitation .If I can pick up an extra mile per gallon i'm good with that too .I'm figuring in 2 years ,40'000 miles all I've done will pay for itself and let my truck breath and run that much easier .
Can you mount the pump in the engine bay high
Yes you can. I would suggest going one size bigger on the suction line to keep the pump happy.
Air dog will be my choice. I have a 3500 dodge cumins 2001 .i use every day for work ,
Good luck. I went through four Airdogs on my 01. Shaft seal leaks and destroys the motor. And no fuel heater.
@@bigboreracing356 You are doing something wrong then. How did u go through that many?
The Airdogs are definitely the quietest pumps on the market. I have Installed FASS and they are extreemely loud, ( and annoying). I have an Airdog 1 on my 2nd gen Dodge and you can't even hear it run!! Keep it up guys!!
Is airdog American-made or some other country
Made right here in the States.
When are you guys going to make a pump an air dog pump lift pump for a 2021 L5P Duramax turbo diesel I cannot find one anywhere do you make one yet
Well if you’re talking about the competitor I think you’re talking about you have to buy a mounting bracket with their pump they don’t offer it with the pump your pump comes with a mounting bracket your pump tucks way up in the truck there is hangs way down like almost touching the road
No it doesn't
So far from what I've seen on the internet, airdog is the way to go over fass. Then I see this video and these two guys haven't worked 2 years for airdog. How bad is your turnover rate?
will this help prevent fuel starvation
Yes it will. We have 100, 150, 165, and 200 GPH Models to choose from.
PureFlow AirDog .Diesel Rx
cool what will be best for a stock 05 sierra duramax
Stealthcon69
If you don't plan on upgrading to larger injectors or injection pump, the A6SPBC259 (100-4G) will be the kit you want. In case you plan on upgrading other fuel system components down the road, I would recommend the A6SABC409 (165-4G) model. Here is a link to the installation manual: www.pureflowairdog.com/manuals/A5SABC112.pdf
I don't understand the bashing fass,fleese or airdog are great pumps I would close my eye and buy either one hands down, I just happen to buy fass 165
So trash talk aside, WHICH ONE GETS RID OF THE AIR BETTER.
airdog
Didn't the owner of fass copy your design?
No FASS created it now AD has been playing catch up...upgrading wiring adding ports etc
So it just means airdog is setup to try 'force' buyers to buy the airdog filters?
Of course we would like customers to buy our filters, but we do have crossover part numbers listed on our website now. You just need to look for our part number on the website and the crossover part numbers are in the description.
Yeah well why don’t you get one for a 2021 L5P so I can put it on my truck
4g is super quiet! Great product
so if you know the cross reference numbers for other mfr filters, then post them on your website. airdog is not apple. not a closed ecosystem. but, a good video.
pureflowairdog.com/faq.html#q26910
Airdog is the best pump, no question about it.
What is the warranty term? You didn't cover their comment to "see forums"....most comments I found recommend you guys. THX!
The warranty term is lifetime as long as you send in your warranty card or can prove you are the original purchaser with a receipt or invoice from where you purchased the pump.
Do you have a part number for CarQwest filters?
You meant WIX, right?
I've been a mechanic for years,, yes all the crap about filters is a non issue and a bunch of crap that is not worth consideration fact is the newest FASS system is head and shoulders above in design and function. its time for AirDog to update their design, yes it works well, I have one on my DuraMax for 10+ years with zero issues and use straight water to lower EGT while towing. If AirDog would update their wiring size, and pump body I would consider getting one for my 40' Diesel Pusher Motorhome, I will go with the FASS on my rig... may be splitting hairs as both are top quality systems, its just that FASS has taken the time to make improvements,,, JUST the 10gauge wires and better connectors is reason alone for me to choose FASS. If AirDog where a lot cheaper I may go with them as I know their system has worked well for me over 10 years use, being virtually the same price Ill go with FASS for electrical upgrades. AirDog upgrade your system or lower your price to stay in competition
We have upgraded our wiring harness and connectors to be 12Ga from the battery all the way to the wires on the motor. The connectors are now metripack 280 connectors to handle the higher amp draw for high pressure applications. 10Ga doesn't do a whole lot when you leave your motor wiring 14Ga.
@@AirDogSales Technically wiring ampacity DOES make a difference from length...there's charts to prove it. All the extra ports on the FASS is what pushed it for me as well as the larger wire. I do wish the FASS height was lower like the AD, as I would have preferred inside the frame rail but on a Dmax the filters hang just below the frame rail which wasn't acceptable for me. But I also had to Fab my own bracket to shift the unit over and tuck it up as it hit the filler tube and hung too low otherwise.
You guys going back and forth. I am going with an aeromotive lift pump
All we do is advertise our products while they continue to attack us. We can't let these false ads go without doing something about it. We don't have a beef with Aeromotive.
My pump failed me today about 3 hours ago. Kinda sucks, I'm not shure why it failed I have to wate for your costemer service to open. No one is ancering the phone. My confidence is high that airdog will assist me. It just sucks I'm dead in the driveway till I fix this thing.
How long was it on the truck when it failed?
Pretty cool still way too much money
i love airdog
Hey guys i got the Air -Dog 4G 165hp on my 03 Dodge 2500 ok i got my Mechanic install it all he did was install it he told me later get a Fuel pressure gauge reads up to 100 ok i did he installed that he set it at 80 it digital ive had it for 4 mths already now the gauge shows 70 and when i'm on the highway it drops to 56-57-66 i called the air dog people he said wait u need to turn it down i told him we never messed with the pump cause it comes from the factory already at 15psi so we never move it up or down we left it as is he kept telling it needs to be turned down i told but y i'm i gonna tell my mechanic to mess with it,,,,Can you tell me something different Thanks...
70psi is way too high for a Cummins. With that fuel pressure gauge in, turn the adjuster out, CCW, untill the pressure reads 15-17psi. Back the jam nut off with a 9/16" wrench and take a flat blade screwdriver to back the pressure down.
That dude and his mechanic sound like they are both retards 😂 his mechanic probably mainly works on gas cars trying to set the pressure that high. If you bought the pump for the cummins your cooking your pump and your fuel system. Why do you want someone to tell your something different so you can be right ? And cant exept that fact? your wrong lol the guy who told you to turn it down listen to him Dip shit
@ryanmayer