Boss OD200. Can it replace your OD / Dist / Fuzz pedals. Basically... Yes it can.
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- Hey all.
So in this video I'm taking a first look a the Boss OD200 the recent Hybrid programmable dirt pedal offering from Boss. In short its brilliant.
I'll be using this to replace a 2 pedal overdrive AIAB pedal for my main gain sounds and 2 fuzz pedals that are currently on my main gigging pedalboard. The 12 models combined with the 3 band EQ really means any drive sounds you want are available here. It's very impressive straight out of the box in that respect.
Combine that with the onboard boost that again can be any one of those models as well as a few others means that it even makes gain stacking VERY possible.
The sounds are all great. they do what the pedals they are modelling do very well as well as a few of Boss's own offerings. Really impressive stuff.
This is the first of two videos where I go through the sounds on offer. I'll also be demonstrating the amazing functionality on offer using MIDI and the external jack for a exp pedal or extra two button footswitch in another video.
For me its this functionality in MIDI situation that really brings out the best of the OD200.
Overall its an extremely impressive piece of kit that really is very capable of replacing several dirt pedals.
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Another great pedal demo by Russel Crowe
Cheers. Me and Russel go way back 😬
Are you not entretained?
@@Cinestudi0 In this life or the next?.....
Great channel because yr musical heart for the song itself, sets you apart.
Look forward to the MIDI possibilities.Thanks
Thx for the kind words mate. I’d have to say ultimately everything I do as a player is always to serve the song (or at least I hope it is) so that’s really nice to hear. Will hopefully be making the MIDI video next week.
Finally a great video demo showing the sounds with a Les Paul guitar, thank you so much for this.
Thx for the comment man. Really glad you found the video helpful
Excellent demo of what looks like a very interesting pedal......nice one.
Cheers Gerry I’m still very much getting to grips with it myself but it looks like it’s deffo a keeper.
My favorite new channel, brilliant i love it 👌👏👏
Wow! Thx mate. I really appreciate the kind words. Are you in Ireland.
@@TheGuitarEffect yip down in Clare. Look forward to seeing more 👍
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Hopefully have a new video on here next week. Thx again for the kind words mate.
Great video. I love the comment about Russel Crowe. How does the compare to the actual individual pedals? It sounds thin but it’s probably different in the room.
Hey. I get so many comments referring to the russel Crowe thing I can’t remember what this video’s one was. Genuinely just can’t see it myself. But I’ll take it all day.
I’ve never compared it to the real pedals. I use 4 different sounds with and without boost on it. There is simply no way I could accommodate the space or be able to switch them on and off remotely so for me it’s not a consideration though I can see how it would be for others.
If it sounds thin it’s probably a mid range thing. The beauty of this is when I get on a stage I quickly check the mid range EQ on all presets and tune it if I need to. Works a treat.
It’s a great great pedal. I couldn’t recommend it highly enough.
Do have a look at New Vintage Audio IR's for the IR-200. Super happy with my pedal and their IR's. Both these pedals pair well.
Hey Craig. Thx will check them out. To be honest I played a show using the IR200 direct recently and it was recorded. I was blown away by the guitar sound. So natural and punchy and dynamic. I do t really feel like I need to improve the IRs. But I’ll check them out thx.
@@TheGuitarEffect it’s a really nice piece of kit, a big brother IR-500 would be nice with the editing software that we get with the Boss 500 series gear.
Ah jaysus, i just bought an od3! I remember looking at this a while ago though and thinkin it might be nice
Hey Padawan. How’s it going? There’s an OD3 In this!!! Sounds good too. Very impressive box this.
@@TheGuitarEffect ya, definitely one to keep in mind
Great videos, I just got one last week and it has so many possibilities and I love it, BUT, can you do us one HUGE favor and make a SHORT video on the basics of how to make and store presets and boosters? The manual isn't the best and I can't find any tutorials walking someone through the process that are worth a damn and it's driving me NUTS! Please! LOL
Hey Dave. Thx for the comment. I can’t make a video about this any time soon but it’s dead simple here is how to do it.
1. Select the drive you want.
2. Select the boost you want. Hit param button and use param knob select knob to cycle through the boost sounds. When you find the boost you want use the param switch and the param knob to set the pre and post levels of the boost. Then select whether you want the boost on or off on this preset by simply turning it on or off with the boost footswitch.
3. When you have the drive / boost combo you like hold the memory button. Select slots 1-4 for the preset by tapping the memory button to cycle through. Hold the memory button to save.
Done.
@@TheGuitarEffect Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to write back! I'm in pedal overload right now, I just put together a new board, new pedals and a new amp head, the H&K Tubemeister 20, great little amp. I'm sure the more I use it the easier it'll be. I do love the sounds I get out of it.
I gigged the Tubemeister 18 for about 2 years. They’re Fantastic little amps.
@@TheGuitarEffect My brain was spinning, but I found a video that shows how to access more than just the 4 memories. It has to do with setting a parameter value for start and ending memories. For example in the video the guy set it for N-2 thru N-7 (6 memories). It's through the parameter button and you set the ETF (first N#) then the ETT (Extends to, last N#) So the yellow lights for memories stops working and you see the patch #'s in the display. Make sense? Maybe this will help some others out too.
Hey Dave. Ah that’s interesting. I could potentially use one set of 4 presets for my originals band and one set of 4 presets for my wedding band. But I know I have to update it with the Mac…. And the thing is I’m very lazy!!!
Great review. Do you what is the analogic part involved in the modelisation for this pedal?
I’ve looked around online as they don’t specify. There are two theories. One is that all the drives without the X are analog which I doubt I personally think the X drives are the ones that are boss native algorithms.
The other theory is that the drives are actually all analog but controlled digitally. Again I doubt this. They’d be advertising that it if we’re true.
I reckon it’s just the input had a preamp on it.
This is normally something I’d care about but it really does sound excellent
Thank you for your answer.@@TheGuitarEffect
My understanding is that Hybrid means, that the circuits are in analogue and the dials are in digital so the analogue sound is not affected in any way, while having the digital expansive controls over each parameter.
Hey. So that’s normally what it means but I do t think that’s what’s going on here. I think there’s an analog preamp but the drives are digital I’m pretty sure.
Since you're the expert I have a question about adding a EHX Big Muff Op Amp pedal to my chain for stacking and by itself and where to put it. Right now I go Comp > EQ200 > OD200 > EQ200 > TS or other OD/DIST pedals to play with or just a lead boost > Front End of Amp. All effects are in my effects loop and at the very end is a Moen Buffalo Para EQ DI. So I tried the the EHX where the TS is, didn't work well behind the OD200. I value your opinion so let me have it before I tear my board apart, again. Everyday I'm learning more and more about the OD200 and it's been months now.
Hi Dave. Thx for commenting. So I have many questions based on how I would use that setup.
1. Are you using gain from the amp too?
2. Do you not like the muff sound from the OD200? Fine if you don’t but just trying to understand what you want to do with it.
3. Why the 2xEQ200 and then the Para EQ? That’s a lot of EQ. I personally find EQ is great but it can be very problematic in deciding what sound you are going for. Kinda like option paralysis.
OK so to answer your question. I always put a muff last in the gain effects chain. Mainly because I want to colour it when stacking. So for example putting a Klon or TS before a muff fills out the mids if that’s what you want to do when stacking. I would say though, having the traditional mid scooped muff sound can occasionally be very useful if you want loads of dirt but still have room for a melody instrument or a vocal.
I would caveat that by saying I never use a muff to play lead. I do t like them for that. I prefer a tone bender style fuzz for “fuzz” type stuff to me the big muff is a particular flavor of distortion. Not really a fuzz.
Hope that helps
@@TheGuitarEffect
Thanks for responding, Rob.
1. Are you using gain from the amp too?
I'm using the clean channel on my H&K 20, with the gain about 10 -11 o'clock, real clean still. And with some of my OD200 presets I might use the lead channel on the H&K for some lead stuff to just get a little distorted boost. I've been playing with the OD200 stacking the drives with some great results.
2. Do you not like the muff sound from the OD200? Fine if you don’t but just trying to understand what you want to do with it.
Yes and no. Honestly I've never used a fuzz before the OD200, but I've been learning about fuzzes and they're another tool for the box,, but I'm realizing how much it's used for some stuff I play, that little dirty sound. I prefer the controls on the Big Muff, it doesn't over complicate it. I play to such a variety of artists that I built my board to give me many options. I'm a analytical person so I'm always tweaking and seeing how far I can push things, adding pedals, swapping some pedals, ADHD 🤣
3. Why the 2xEQ200 and then the Para EQ? That’s a lot of EQ. I personally find EQ is great but it can be very problematic in deciding what sound you are going for. Kinda like option paralysis.
There was a video online, in depth with the EQ200 and he showed the benefits of running a pre and post EQ, the pre EQ is very subtle in its adjustments, most presets the pre-eq is not used or just slightly. Then after it goes through the OD200 and back into the EQ200 it's a whole nother monster, much more responsive to the sliders, more dramatic than the pre-eq, this is where I make my most adjustments. I don't over use the EQ on the OD200 either, none of my eq setting are extreme. I got the Para EQ because some of what I play I wasn't able to get the right tone, that one frequencies, this has helped tremendously plus it makes me sound fuller.
4. I would caveat that by saying I never use a muff to play lead. I don't like them for that. I prefer a tone bender style fuzz for “fuzz” type stuff to me the big muff is a particular flavor of distortion. Not really a fuzz.
I think you said it best here and that's what I'm mostly trying to do and enjoy using it as an add-on but not the main drive.
I probably confused you even more, sorry. I think I'm going to have to pull everything off and do a test day trying various positions. Best case scenario I get used to the OD2-- fuzz and sell the Big Muff I just got for $40 in excellent condition, for that price I had to buy it. Wait until I asking about setting up a EV-5 🤣
What drives are you using for your intro bit and how many guitars? A nice mix going on.
@@TheGuitarEffect I hope you don't mind me asking questions? I'm going to rewatch your OD-200 videos and a few others tonight. I do remember why I wasn't impressed with the Fuzz on the OD, it was because you had to crank the volume way up, which seemed odd to me, but it's the same on the EHX. I've watched a lot on fuxx but I need more. It reminds me of how I didn't get or like the OD Centaur, never even heard of them, remember I took about a 20 year hiatus and I only used multi effects units. BUt now I'm using it quite a bit and really like it. So basically fuzz and klones are new to me, but I'm learning.
Hey Dave. Sorry for the delayed reply. So I don’t find the Fuzz on the OD200 needs te volume cranked. But I do use it over a cleanish should rather than a driven sounds. I’ve always found that muffs need headroom for impact.
@@TheGuitarEffect Yeah I've been playing around running a TS into it and like the results. Once things calm down here a bit I'm going dig into the OD200s fuzz more. You're probably right that it's just as good as other as the EHX I got. I watched your MIDI video the other day with the BOSS controller, I was impressed and you had me sold until I saw the price. Removing the EHX fuzz and Joyo TS from my board though will clear up some much needed space as I found the EQ & OD200 right next to each other makes it hard to step on the switches without hitting another accidentally.
Hi Rob, do you think the OD'200 Overdrives and Distortions are sonically better than the hx effects range? Thanks
Hey Paul. I had to really think about that! It’s never occurred to me. I’d say no. Not better not worse. Similar quality. I didn’t add the OD200 for tonal reasons. The drive tones from the HX are excellent.
@TheGuitarEffect Thanks Rob, really enjoying watching your channel. It's given me plenty of ideas for my own pedalboards. I use a hx stomp, with a blackstar live logic midi board (which gives me 4 preset channels and bank up/down, leave the stomp free for 3 snapshots per preset) and a few pedals on the effects loop. I actually have the old 0D-20, which I like for the octave switch.
Hey Paul. Are you in the US or UK? That Blackstar footswitch sounds very useful. Does it have an editor to program it?
@TheGuitarEffect Yes it has a software editor for custom mode for cc and pc specific midi commands and patch mode.
I'm UK based and ordered it via Amazon.
Assuming the different overdrives are the same as the ones built into the GT1000, then this is capable of some great tones.
Hey. Thx for the comment. I’ve never played the GT1000 but the available sounds from this unit are more than useable live. It’s a brilliant pedal.
how can we judge overdrives sounds when your clean sound is already distorded ? does nobody knows what is a CLEAN sound ?!?
Hey. Thx for the comment. Ok, I get your point in theory but that assumes that all te models in this overdrive pedal or for that matter in any overdrive pedal are designed to simulate the sound of a naturally overdriven amp. Which most of them are not designed to do. Like, a boost or a transparent boost restive yes. But a fuzz? A tube screamer? A Klon. Not in my opinion. I never play with a totally clean sound. I use the one verse ice sounds with that sound to colour the sound and add gain as I need it for specific situations. Not just to make the amp more distorted in the same way.
Does that make sense?
just got one myself, and my initial thoughts are the same as yours! the blues driver, klon, and xdrive were my first three favorites so I made them presets with clean boosts on top of each one.
Nice. ITs a great pedal and a bit of a sleeper. Thx for the comment
It's very nice and useful but I wouldn't use it for anything important right now because there's no way to back up your presets to a PC. I wrote to Boss and they say they passed the request to the dev area. Let's hope they make just a simple backup utility.
Hey Marcelo thx for the comment. To be honest I reckon 4 presets is the max I’d use so I’d be grand if they were somehow lost. A factory reset and I could have them back in 5 mins. It’s a very intuitive pedal
@@TheGuitarEffect true, I don't really use so many different tones as well, but I like to use 1 preset for each section of the song I'm playing since my Nux Cerberus only sends fixed PC#, so having 128 presets is cool. What a pity they can't be backed up, I sold the otherwise super Boss EQ200 for the same reason but I'm hopeful for Boss to listen to us and make a tiny backup app!
Hey Marcelo. It’s interesting that you say a preset per part per song. So how do you do that without being able to read where you are on a screen. I do that for my originals band with the HX effects but I can only do it cause it has a screen.
@@TheGuitarEffect well, I cheat... I included the nice Boss GT001 in my pedalboard, which has a nice display and doesn't sound bad either 😀 and I let him take cares of all delays/revs. Of course, I need an expensive midi to usb box, but so I have 200 user presets on the GT001. Also, I can map incoming PC# on the OD200 to any of its internal patches. I like to set things up this way because I don't feel confident messing with volume pedals live, I'd rather set the right performance level and store it. Thanks for your reviews, always interesting
Every fuzz pedal needs to be demoed with Here Is No Why
Hey. Thx for the comment. So interestingly I would totally agree (I think it’s possibly their best guitar riff) but only when demoing a muff. Like I didn’t think you could get that sound out there f a fuzz face. It for a muff yeah absolutely. I’ve literally just demoed the Jam Pedals Red Muck. Check it out it’s amazing
Video is mote cuz you already have distortion on ,we can't tell what the pedal sounds like, you need to take this down and put up one with clean base amp then ad the different sounds. So we can hear what the od200 sounds like Thx
Hey. Thx for the comment. I see your point and I’ve had this said before. Thing is there are as many if not more players who have not fully clean base sounds as there are that do so I disagree. I’m sure there are demos out there of it through a totally clean fender neutral style amp. Thx
sounds digital to me
Hey. Thx for the comment. It doesn’t sound problematically digital to me. Not considering the amount of tones it can do for the size of it.