Ed, what a great video! Extremely well shot, great explanation and concisely edited. It would be perfect if the voice over audio quality was just as good.. A cheap makeshift sound booth can be made by hanging a duvet in the corner of a room to deaden echos. EDIT: Didn't realise you recorded this at home.
Very impressive. A bit of a pain for me though, you've got me thinking that I might be able to add CNC to my mill? But there is much to learn from your excellent vids about machining and I'm no novice! Pete
Great video guys. Why so much focus on audio and high expectations these days when half the class couldn’t make a video of their own or at least spend the time with half the quality. Not like you had a robotic computer voice talking. Geez people perhaps don’t say anything at all if you haven’t anything nice to say. Better yet don’t follow or watch these guys have enough trolls disliking and making idiotic comments as if they’re machinist Gods that conquer all. The successes of Saunders speaks for itself. Thank you for the video I appreciate the time and effort in sharing and know it’s something you don’t have to do for the benefit of everyone else.
Great video Ed thank you, and welcome if this is your first narration. You decked off the top surface, is there a plan to deck the lower surface (edges of the side pieces)? Or is that later in the sequence. Great work anyway and reminds me of a plan I had a few years ago to make a CNC lathe . . . starting to think about it again . . ..
I see the super glue trick working.....but it is so hard to get excited enough to make it a normal way to hold workpieces. Perhaps I am not brave enough, lol. Great to see this coming together!!!
I gotta say, I was pretty nervous about it at first, but I haven't had a piece come off during an operation yet! Though, I am machining on a less-than-rigid benchtop CNC machine, so I'm taking fairly conservative cuts. I find that small pieces are the best use for the method, because clamps can so easily make it impossible to do any machining on a small part, HOWEVER, there seems to be a little play/wiggle imparted by the glue layer on the tape. The most rigid setups I've found come from pieces with a large surface area to glue up. That being said, I haven't tried the specific tape that NYCCNC recommends so maybe that tape doesn't 'slide' the same way mine does.
It will do something, but as he said in the video he was making the top surfaces co-planar. He didn't claim that he was making the top perfectly parallel to the bottom surfaces, so I'm guessing that wasn't critical. The goal was to make the linear bearings ride on the same plane and this method achieved that.
Curious with that superglue technique what is the deepest cut you can make without tossing that off the table? Guessing your not going past .015? It’s intriguing to see done yet the thought frightens me. I’ve had 1 too many parts launch across the shop that was securely attached because of some freak issue like a unexpected spindle drop, etc...and yes I’m back watching again. I find myself watching your videos over and over and focusing on different techniques your using.
Do you have any concerns with warping from using 6061-T651 vs. cast material for the stock? Either way, it's shaping up nicely and it is great to see you tackle this project.
I understand the tape holding power but can not see the ability to hold any tolerance with "gap filling" gobs of glue.. You mount and deck twice with different tape/ glue as an interface. How do you know your not 5 tho out of flat between setups? Seems like the glue and tape interface could add a lot of unpredictable variability.
Jonas Bandier no magnetic bed cant hold it an even if you use a vice the stone wil gull up and you wil get a horible result bot for your machine and workpiece its only for hard matiralls
Do you do anything special when running with flood coolant? I gave it a go this week and threw two parts at the walls of the enclosure.Both times were with flood running, and the technique (& materials) were identical to what you guys have shown. The failure was in the tape adhering to the part both times. Surfaces were freshly decked off and cleaned thoroughly. Our conclusion was that the coolant penetrated the tape and severely weakened it. John did mention a while back that you use it on your Haas with flood so I'm curious to see if you have any insight?
Always subscribe to watch your video, your video made me learn a lot of knowledge, I come to a girl in Suzhou, China, is also learning CNC washing aspects, can you give me the way to contact?
They are running a weird beta version of the new MX series. John gave a basic overview of some of the differences. But their machine is like half old style and half new style from before the MX series was fully developed.
For your turret indexing, why not put a spring loaded ball bearing or rounded pin into the turret base plate and then mill a corresponding rounded track, with detents at 120 degrees, so that the turret indexes itself under spring tension for those last few degrees of rotation? Something like this: a360.co/2Oi25py
You said "hey guys" instead of "folks"! I thought I was on the wrong channel! :)
This is seriously impressive and the fact that you're sharing it is unbelievable!!! Thank you so much for this...
That new Tormach is looking pretty badass
Welcome Ed. At least this is the first time I've heard you on a WW episode. Great job with the video. The turret is looking awesome so far.
Second... can’t wait to see the final product. You’re inspiring me to build my own... or something similar
Ed, what a great video! Extremely well shot, great explanation and concisely edited. It would be perfect if the voice over audio quality was just as good.. A cheap makeshift sound booth can be made by hanging a duvet in the corner of a room to deaden echos. EDIT: Didn't realise you recorded this at home.
Very impressive. A bit of a pain for me though, you've got me thinking that I might be able to add CNC to my mill?
But there is much to learn from your excellent vids about machining and I'm no novice!
Pete
It's like your in the bathroom WITH me!
love the AvE quote 😂 top job Ed
I thought DIY is make something from dirt using wood stick and stone ;)
This's nice project, sir!
Great video guys. Why so much focus on audio and high expectations these days when half the class couldn’t make a video of their own or at least spend the time with half the quality. Not like you had a robotic computer voice talking. Geez people perhaps don’t say anything at all if you haven’t anything nice to say. Better yet don’t follow or watch these guys have enough trolls disliking and making idiotic comments as if they’re machinist Gods that conquer all. The successes of Saunders speaks for itself. Thank you for the video I appreciate the time and effort in sharing and know it’s something you don’t have to do for the benefit of everyone else.
love these videos
Great job Ed! Covered it all very logically, with the classic video and sound effects :-)
Hi Ed, I like the sound and the strategy ;-)
You get a thumbs up for the music alone
Great video Ed thank you, and welcome if this is your first narration. You decked off the top surface, is there a plan to deck the lower surface (edges of the side pieces)? Or is that later in the sequence. Great work anyway and reminds me of a plan I had a few years ago to make a CNC lathe . . . starting to think about it again . . ..
I see the super glue trick working.....but it is so hard to get excited enough to make it a normal way to hold workpieces.
Perhaps I am not brave enough, lol.
Great to see this coming together!!!
I gotta say, I was pretty nervous about it at first, but I haven't had a piece come off during an operation yet! Though, I am machining on a less-than-rigid benchtop CNC machine, so I'm taking fairly conservative cuts. I find that small pieces are the best use for the method, because clamps can so easily make it impossible to do any machining on a small part, HOWEVER, there seems to be a little play/wiggle imparted by the glue layer on the tape. The most rigid setups I've found come from pieces with a large surface area to glue up. That being said, I haven't tried the specific tape that NYCCNC recommends so maybe that tape doesn't 'slide' the same way mine does.
What does the dual papertape layer and randomly applied glue to the precision in z?
It will do something, but as he said in the video he was making the top surfaces co-planar. He didn't claim that he was making the top perfectly parallel to the bottom surfaces, so I'm guessing that wasn't critical. The goal was to make the linear bearings ride on the same plane and this method achieved that.
ColdHeart I've been using double sided tape and hot melt glue on my wood lathe for years. Obviously it has it's limitations but don't all methods ; -)
Especially when traditional methods take the same amount of time and are safer.
Curious with that superglue technique what is the deepest cut you can make without tossing that off the table? Guessing your not going past .015? It’s intriguing to see done yet the thought frightens me. I’ve had 1 too many parts launch across the shop that was securely attached because of some freak issue like a unexpected spindle drop, etc...and yes I’m back watching again. I find myself watching your videos over and over and focusing on different techniques your using.
Cant wait to see this thing run 👍
Do you have any concerns with warping from using 6061-T651 vs. cast material for the stock? Either way, it's shaping up nicely and it is great to see you tackle this project.
Dowels would have been nice on the mating components to capture alignment.
Are the castings on the m machine much beefier than the series 3. Or not much change?
Nice job Ed. Great video , but tell John to get you a better microphone. It’s not a deal breaker, it’s just not the normal high standard of audio.
You machines aren't clapped out enough at all to be "a treat especial". You can't use that term all willy nilly :)
I was hoping for don't for get to keep it in a vice at the end.
I'm surprised that the audio was deemed useable. Still enjoyed the video just had to mute and turn on captions.
You guys really need to off the 1/4-20 bandwagon and get with the M6 program.
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Ted Saylor 0.250 of what? Oh god I'm so confused!
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Any info of those coolant hoses? They look a bit 3d printed...
Cool video, love this stuff. Depresses me, I can't even afford one CNC lol
Manny, if you are in a city, look for a local Maker space. That's how I'm getting experience prior to being able to purchase my own at some point.
These videos inspired me to build my own CNC
That's pretty cool
top man
Am I missing something? Gluing 2 pieces of single-sided tape together somehow stronger than 1 double-sided tape?
Nice! I didn't consider the burnishing of both sides. Clever!
I understand the tape holding power but can not see the ability to hold any tolerance with "gap filling" gobs of glue.. You mount and deck twice with different tape/ glue as an interface. How do you know your not 5 tho out of flat between setups? Seems like the glue and tape interface could add a lot of unpredictable variability.
Ed, did you guys do a vid (or are gonna do) on how tape/glue/tape might affect tolerances? I am wondering too.
kirk creelman my thoughts exactly.
I want more video.
5:22 You sure that isn't an IOW block?
Does the surface grinder work for aluminium?
Jonas Bandier no magnetic bed cant hold it an even if you use a vice the stone wil gull up and you wil get a horible result bot for your machine and workpiece its only for hard matiralls
Am I the only one who is butt hurt that we had to wait a month for part 2? Haha
How fast as the rapids on your frankenmill?
Ed Rees wow!!! Sounds like the MX is going to be the winner!
I'm trying to get past my gut reaction to the superglue. It really seems to be holding.
Do you do anything special when running with flood coolant? I gave it a go this week and threw two parts at the walls of the enclosure.Both times were with flood running, and the technique (& materials) were identical to what you guys have shown. The failure was in the tape adhering to the part both times. Surfaces were freshly decked off and cleaned thoroughly. Our conclusion was that the coolant penetrated the tape and severely weakened it. John did mention a while back that you use it on your Haas with flood so I'm curious to see if you have any insight?
Always subscribe to watch your video, your video made me learn a lot of knowledge, I come to a girl in Suzhou, China, is also learning CNC washing aspects, can you give me the way to contact?
Isn’t the max RPX 10k on a 770?
They are running a weird beta version of the new MX series. John gave a basic overview of some of the differences. But their machine is like half old style and half new style from before the MX series was fully developed.
For your turret indexing, why not put a spring loaded ball bearing or rounded pin into the turret base plate and then mill a corresponding rounded track, with detents at 120 degrees, so that the turret indexes itself under spring tension for those last few degrees of rotation? Something like this: a360.co/2Oi25py
wont steel chips stick to the magnet plugs ?
max bauer don't the plugs just have a bit of steel in them, and you use a magnet to remove them?
Don't teach these kids to use superglue for workholding FFS
Can't stand the audio sorry.