Anyone who has moved a big lathe with small equipment is applauding how easy the editing made this look. Dont be fooled, this is a serious undertaking. Many hours were spent planning how to safely move these parts with a multitude of constraints. Well done man!
Yes Definitely. I've had the pleasure of replacing the motor Brushes in a 1983 Mori-Seiki SL-2B. It was a 4 Brush, 15hp, DC Shunt Motor... Moving that motor out just a few inches took some planning! That was about 9 years ago. Still using machine today and still holds .0001" tolerances, or .00254 mm
It's really not that difficult - I just moved a CNC lathe a couple of months ago. Step 1, rent a forklift, step 2 borrow (or rent) a truck - only takes a couple of hours, and you don't completely f' up all the alignment of the entire machine. I don't know where this "we'll just tear it all apart and rebuild it from scratch" approach comes from, but it's about the stupidest way to do this you can possibly come up with. Old CNC controls are really easy to fix, if you're even slightly competent at electronics repair. It's a lot faster / easier / cheaper to fix what's there than it is to rip and replace, but this channel is always focused on doing things the dumb way, so... par for the course
@@ActionBOX It's inspiring. I've been looking at old machines for years, dreaming of doing exactly what you've done. It's a shame how many of these old machines get scrapped. To breath new life into them in such a way that you understand exactly how they work, and exactly how to repair them, is as good as CNC gets. I'd rather have a machine that I restored, and modified myself as opposed to anything brand new. Really well done, you guys should be proud :)
@@dieselphiend I really appreciate this comment. It's crazy that we could get these massive machines for almost free, and with a bit of time and learning we can have them back up and running again. Whats holding you back from doing the same thing?
@@ActionBOX Space, I need more space. I've got a 48" CNC router that I still need to figure out where to put. I've considered mounting it to the ceiling, lol.
You've put in a lot of work, and it looks good! Just an FYI, your drawtube actuator is pulling against the spindle bearings. The original actuator "floats" and pulls against the spindle itself so the spindle bearings are not constantly under load. This is typically also how the drawbar works in a CNC mill. A better design might be to use the die springs between the drawtube and the spindle tube. Then you just need an actuator to "unclamp" the springs, again, like a CNC mill drawbar. That system would not work for a chuck though, since it needs to clamp over a much wider range.
I might need you to elaborate as I dont think I understand, but with a CNC mill drawbar there is a built in spring mechanism which pulls its back. In the Lathe this did not exist. maybe it exists in modern designs but definitely not in this old machine. Thanks again for watching and looking froward to your reply
@@ActionBOX Correct, you would have to make it. The original hydraulic actuator is just a hydraulic ram that pulls the drawtube on one end and pushes against the rotating spindle tube on the other end. It can pull on the drawtube as hard as it wants and there is no load transferred to the spindle bearings. With your design, any time the drawtube is pulled by the actuator, the thrust load is transferred to the spindle bearings. The spindle bearings are rated for a lot of axial load, but it's still not a good practice.
@@WatchWesWork @WatchWesWork regardless they will wreck the spindle bearings pretty fast doing it like that. But not sure they could get away with a different solution unless that large circular plate with holes spin with the spindletube. cuz then a hollow thru hydraulic ram that spins with the machine should work, and have to be disconnected if running it manually or have a slipring that can transfer pressure fitted to it.
I think the problem of this channel are the videos. You cannot actually see the detail of the process, everything happens too fast. It is more about the achievement than the process. I think a project like this, as well as all the others deserved to be divided in 3 different videos, at least.
That’s funny. I was thinking, what is this, a machinist video for children? I can’t imagine I’ll ever watch another video here, never mind subscribe. But that’s the great thing about this platform, something for everyone.
I loved this video. I am a second year electromechanical engineering student and I like how you break down your thought process and your clever solutions for each problem.
Just tip from a CNC machinist... The closer you have the part to the work hold (in this case the collet) the less chatter you will have. Your chess piece came out pretty good, but if you want that fine finish with the rainbow sheen on it, you want the most rigid set up possible. That goes for work piece AND tooling. The less you stick out the tooling, the more rigid it will be! Awesome video!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that. We have a Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine that we made which you would love if you enjoyed this. stay tuned, video coming out in 1-2 weeks.
Damn...you guys rock, always a smile on my face when i get a notification of new videos from you guys, why you are still full-time employed is hard to understand, as you have made equipment that would easily be sellable into the maker community, hope you make that transition
I really appreciate this comment. Thank you for your support and kind words. If you love our videos then you will enjoy the next few weeks as we will be releasing a video every week. Making the transition you describe is difficult with such huge machines, but we have a Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine video coming out perhaps next week (pictures already on our website), so that might help. Thanks again Dave
WOW!!! This is incredible. you're showing what is possible for people to do at home these days with some intense research, willingness to learn and some determination all this can be accessible to a lot of people
Starting my own machine shop in my home garage and ive bounced around the idea of doing this exact thing. Thank you for the motivation and your work came out amazing. As well as the controller unit. Really enjoy the asthetics of it all.
Thank you very much. We are launching some cool videos over the next few weeks so make sure to check in. next week is a DIY Metal Injection Molding Machine.
DIY?!? This is legit insane. I really enjoy your simplistic approach to a complicated machine and your "get it done" attitude. You and your brother have earned my subscription, kudos and good luck!
I've been following you guys since your humble beggining and I am really impressed by how things are evolving... Both of you are lucky to have each other but also having many supportive people around you... I think in a couple of years you will have your own factory if things continue to progress at this pace. On my side I just wish to have a bit of luck to find some people that hare supprotive and helpful as alone I cannot get much done.
Another excellent project! On the collet closer, the draw tube should close under spring pressure (springs rotate with the spindle) and only be opened with your linear actuator. That way the thrust bearings and actuator only have to function during collet release much reducing wear (and heat). Also means you are not putting axial pressure on the spindle bearings during normal operation. Same principle as an automotive clutch.
Wow, Philip as I was reading your comment I was realizing how much better your solution is than mine. Where were you when I was building this machine haha. Can you share a link to an example of one of these mechanisms so I can get a better visual? Hope you enjoyed the video. Cheers, Dave
@@HuskyMachining Seems like a popular opinion, This is one of my favorite aspects of posting a video on UA-cam, I get feedback that I have not considered. Thank you very much.
Hahaha, thanks for the support. I hope you are able to learn something new about how CNC lathes are built and work. We have a bunch of other cool videos coming out like a desktop metal injection molding machine.
Love it. If you enjoyed this video then you would absolutely appreciate the videos we will be releasing over the next couple of weeks. We have a DIY Metal Injection Molding Machine coming next week.
You’re right, measuring concentricity on the outside was unwise. We will make sure to focus on the mating surface moving forward. Other than that did you find any other issues that we can focus on? Thank you for the good tip.
Saw this in the group. It took a week but got around to it. Good stuff. Only issue i saw is you only need to run enough part stickout to have clearance for the tool changer/tools. You can rough faster and it's not as tough on your tools.
Thank you very much. Finding the lathe is a bit of a waiting game but when something pops up it will be worth it. Let me know if we can help in any way.
Good job my friend! 🦾🦾🦾🦾 I recently started retrofitting a CNC lathe CYCLONE DENFORD. I've even uploaded the first videos but there's a ton of work and unforeseen faults, e.g. spindle bearings or slides glued to the guides. Pozdrawiam z Polski 🛠🛠
My friend, I feel your pain. This is definitely a very demanding project. Good on you for sticking with it. Let me know if we can help in any way. How long have you been working on it so far?
@@ActionBOX It's hard to say because it's a side project. The machine arrived on August 18. Until now: I dismantled the covers (they are waiting for laser cleaning) I washed the machine and parts I ripped apart the control cabinet I shortened the table/base, painted it and added adjustable wheels I cleaned the revolver, changed the seals - waiting for the motor (I'll also add a stepper motor) I dismantled the spindle - the bearings are destroyed I glued new slides to the guides - they need to be machined and scraped For now I'm doing fine but if you have any problems please help, thank you :)
Very creative idea! It's amazing how simple the electronics are now compared to the early industrial machines. Getting the ways square on a DIY machine is a real challenge. Wish I had the space for one of these ;-)
Incredible channel tbh. I got recommended the CNC one just a few weeks ago and I’m fully caught up now. Excited for the metal 3d printer video. Don’t know how you’ll keep it up with these impressive builds but please do.
Thank you so much! It really means a lot to hear that you enjoy our videos. I’m glad you are on the journey with us. We have quite a few impressive videos coming out in the next few weeks so stay tuned. Cheers
I thought I was going to watch something cool, but instead I learned a new use for a tool I already have, never considered using the centro in the lathe, thanks for the great idea guys
As a professional Mazak Field Engineer, i'm pretty impressed about your project. Hopefully, when I retire in about 10 Years I will find he time to do something similar 😊
Looks great! I did CNC servo conversions of my manual machines years ago, then upgraded, but not to true professional machines. Reminds me of when I went from Cincinatti to Detroit to get a Tormach Mill and get it home to my garage all solo... Then it didn't fit in the garage so had to partially disassemble it in the dark to get it to fit so I could return the trailer. Couldn't get it off the trailer, so dragged it off with my lawn tractor lol. How many RPM you getting out of the spindle? looks really low. Your controller and pendant are laughably cheap compared to even just a few years ago. Nice to see this all get more affordable!
I feel your pain, but I'm glad to know Im not alone in this hahah. My spindle RPM is indeed low with a maximum of 3000RPM, but it's perfect for my home shop needs. Thank you for your support.
I've been using masso for years and haven't ever had any issues. I own 2 G3's on two machines with tool changers that never had a single problem. If I ever build another machine that's the controller I'll buy again.
@@ActionBOX that's odd. I've never had any issues with mine. And I flash every latest firmware they release. I did have a issue with my toolchanger once but I flashed back to the previous firmware and it went away. As anything, it depends on what you're using it for determines what issues you'll find. I've gotten lucky I guess. Lol.
@@ActionBOX Sure! I've attached some shortened image links at the bottom of the machine and one of the parts it made. Keep in mind I'm a college student on a pretty tight budget so it's not the most glamorous machine, especially compared to the stuff you've made. Total cost was around $150. The bed and headstock are 3d printed shells with a concrete rebar+wire mixture poured in them. Motor needs replacement as it's only 250W and struggles a bit with torque. Entire spindle and chuck mounting arrangement was made by me on a university lathe. Electronics are functional if not nice looking. I made the carriage and all the aluminum components on my equally jank budget CNC router. I can send images of that as well if you want, but that's it's own thing. Overall I'm pretty happy with how it turned out since it's definitely one of the more ambitious projects I've done. Still on my to-do list is a tailstock, a better toolpost mount, since the current one is really weird, and a few other quality improvements. Lathe: tinyurl.com/3954mwnd Test Part: tinyurl.com/2ssh9msf
@@ActionBOX Sure! Do you have a good way for me to send images? I made a comment earlier going over the general construction that I think got deleted due to having image links in it.
"Oh and by the way im also building a vacuum furnace" Just a casual mention there. Youve hust gained a new subscriber mate. this channel, Your engineering knowledgeable, passion and explanation is absolutely phenomenal.
Awesome project! Honestly an amazing deal for 1500 as long as you got the space, knowledge and skills! My only concern is 24:28, doesn't the constant stress of the motor weighing down on the plastic bracket cause it to creep overtime? Can't wait to see the vacuum furnace build!!
Good point. The answer is perhaps. I dont use this as an industrial lathe (24/7) I use it as needed everyone and then so I anticipate the piece will last longer than me. Regardless, the beauty in this project is that I can just reprint a new on in 4 hours and replace the part. We have some really cool videos coming out once a week for the next little while, so stay tuned. Looking forward to your comments in our new videos. Dave
Awesome find, those old Emcos are built like a tank! I know I own two. 😊 Oh yeah, the old electronics are worth something. Sinumerik parts are well built!
@@ActionBOXWell, not something you think when you get the complete machine for pennies. How fast can you spin the spindle, seems a bit slow? The original depends on the model can turn to 4000rpm and and you want that on smaller parts.
I love this so much. I was born into the wrong situation. I have the capacity but have no clue how to bridge the gap from where I am to get to this point. It's awesome to watch you work though, great content!
Thank you, im glad you enjoyed. Yes that video will come out in about 3-4 weeks. over the next week or two we will launch a video of our Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine. I am super excited for it as it's likely the coolest machine we have ever built. Stay tuned to see that. Cheers, Dave
Cool vid. I hope you bought the seller a beer for being pretty cool about all the work you did on his site (cleaning, dissasembly etc). Most would not allow that.
That's huge! I'm working currently on a CNC lathe too, but that's tons of work. Btw what is that in front of the main spindle? Is that a tailstock of any kind or a second spindle?
I am well aware, I check in with your channel every now and then. Great stuff you do and I would love to collaborate with you on our Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine (video coming out in 1 - 2 weeks). To answer your question that was a massive tailstock, not a spindle. Cheers, Dave
@@ActionBOX So great to hear that you check in some time! :) If you'd like to contact with me just let me know. Metal injection molding machines are really interesting stuff too - I'd love to build one in the future but that needs tons of knowledge for sure too. Btw what kind of tailstock is that? Hydraulic? Pneumatic? Electric motor? Are you going to use it? I'm going to make a pneumatic tailstock for my lathe with electro-pneumatic pressure valve control (0-10V from panel). Keep up your work! Greetings!
@@GBWM_CNC The tailstock was Hydraulic. I converted it to Electric and then realized I just dont need it in my machine for the type of work I do, so I pulled it out.
Wow every minute of this video would be 1 video from a "common" youtuber This is really impressive, great job. If I make a CNC in the future I will take a look at this Masso controller, it looks pretty good!
Do I need/want to make one of these? No, but Im still gonna watch and comment to help your video analytics, even if its only a little bit. You guys always make fantastic content, and I hope your channel keeps growing, and that you get to do more and more projects in the future :)
haha, Thanks a bunch Kyle, We appreciate it. I look forward to your comment on our video next week. We built a DIY Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine. it's awesome.
cool video. I'm about to start machining the baseplate for a little 5c cnc lathe I'm building and I'm going with the same MASSO controller. I'm also a high vacuum nerd so I'm pumped to see your next video!
o heck yeah. Im so curious to see what you have to say about our DIY High Vacuum Furnace next week. I dont want you to hold back though, I want all your honest thoughts hahah. Glad you enjoyed the the video. Dave
The spring load for the collet is better solution. The LinuxCNC + mesa cards not need other electronics as an Ardiuno. (you can program it inside the software)
I have concerns with the clamping mechanism. If a bolt sheers from fatigue the work could leave the chuck. Why did you choose to remove hydraulics? The accuracy of clamping pressure is Vital for thin wall parts and repeatability.
Seems, per the comments, that it would have been wiser to have the chuck constantly activated via a spring, and then use the actuator to open the chuck instead. this would act as a failsafe. Good catch.
@@ActionBOX Yes that would be wise. Still would have the problem of controlling clamping pressure for repeatability. Maybe have the spring load tension variable with a nut. Similar to a shock absorber.
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Shout out to the seller for being so generous with his time and allowing you to turn this all into content.
Ditto that!
The sellers were amazing individuals. I appreciate and respect them for all they have done.
Shout out to you hard work! Impressive! By the way where do I look if I want to buy a used machine like this?
What kind of lathe was this originally (brand name)
@@TheHBPencil. its an emco
Anyone who has moved a big lathe with small equipment is applauding how easy the editing made this look. Dont be fooled, this is a serious undertaking. Many hours were spent planning how to safely move these parts with a multitude of constraints. Well done man!
Thank you very much. This is very true.
I hope you enjoyed the video 😃
Yes Definitely. I've had the pleasure of replacing the motor Brushes in a 1983 Mori-Seiki SL-2B. It was a 4 Brush, 15hp, DC Shunt Motor... Moving that motor out just a few inches took some planning! That was about 9 years ago. Still using machine today and still holds .0001" tolerances, or .00254 mm
It's really not that difficult - I just moved a CNC lathe a couple of months ago. Step 1, rent a forklift, step 2 borrow (or rent) a truck - only takes a couple of hours, and you don't completely f' up all the alignment of the entire machine. I don't know where this "we'll just tear it all apart and rebuild it from scratch" approach comes from, but it's about the stupidest way to do this you can possibly come up with. Old CNC controls are really easy to fix, if you're even slightly competent at electronics repair. It's a lot faster / easier / cheaper to fix what's there than it is to rip and replace, but this channel is always focused on doing things the dumb way, so... par for the course
@@gorak9000 frame-off restoration is a thing in antique automotive world. Same applies here...
Haven't moved a lathe but did move a big milling machine several years ago. Yeah..that sucked.
"wait, if I'm going to buy a container, I might as well buy something that I can use at home." Thank you for teaching mindful consumption!
Hahaha 😂
There is so much value in these old machines.
a ton of value. What did you think of the project?
@@ActionBOX It's inspiring. I've been looking at old machines for years, dreaming of doing exactly what you've done. It's a shame how many of these old machines get scrapped. To breath new life into them in such a way that you understand exactly how they work, and exactly how to repair them, is as good as CNC gets. I'd rather have a machine that I restored, and modified myself as opposed to anything brand new. Really well done, you guys should be proud :)
@@dieselphiend I really appreciate this comment. It's crazy that we could get these massive machines for almost free, and with a bit of time and learning we can have them back up and running again. Whats holding you back from doing the same thing?
@@ActionBOX Space, I need more space. I've got a 48" CNC router that I still need to figure out where to put. I've considered mounting it to the ceiling, lol.
@@dieselphiend hahaha, thats hilarious. do you have links to this anywhere? would love to see it.
You've put in a lot of work, and it looks good! Just an FYI, your drawtube actuator is pulling against the spindle bearings. The original actuator "floats" and pulls against the spindle itself so the spindle bearings are not constantly under load. This is typically also how the drawbar works in a CNC mill. A better design might be to use the die springs between the drawtube and the spindle tube. Then you just need an actuator to "unclamp" the springs, again, like a CNC mill drawbar. That system would not work for a chuck though, since it needs to clamp over a much wider range.
I might need you to elaborate as I dont think I understand, but with a CNC mill drawbar there is a built in spring mechanism which pulls its back. In the Lathe this did not exist. maybe it exists in modern designs but definitely not in this old machine. Thanks again for watching and looking froward to your reply
@@ActionBOX Correct, you would have to make it. The original hydraulic actuator is just a hydraulic ram that pulls the drawtube on one end and pushes against the rotating spindle tube on the other end. It can pull on the drawtube as hard as it wants and there is no load transferred to the spindle bearings. With your design, any time the drawtube is pulled by the actuator, the thrust load is transferred to the spindle bearings. The spindle bearings are rated for a lot of axial load, but it's still not a good practice.
@@WatchWesWork I love Watching Wes Work... This makes me remember why I love it. Knowledge shared between professionals here.
Could a stack of Belleville washers work or is that too small. I know they use Belleville washers for mill drawbars on pull studs.
@@WatchWesWork @WatchWesWork regardless they will wreck the spindle bearings pretty fast doing it like that. But not sure they could get away with a different solution unless that large circular plate with holes spin with the spindletube. cuz then a hollow thru hydraulic ram that spins with the machine should work, and have to be disconnected if running it manually or have a slipring that can transfer pressure fitted to it.
This channel is criminally undersubscribed. You have the quality, knowledge, entertainment & engagement value of a 2+Million channel.
This comment made my day, I appreciate you. we shall see what happens.
100%
I think the problem of this channel are the videos. You cannot actually see the detail of the process, everything happens too fast. It is more about the achievement than the process. I think a project like this, as well as all the others deserved to be divided in 3 different videos, at least.
Very correct
That’s funny. I was thinking, what is this, a machinist video for children? I can’t imagine I’ll ever watch another video here, never mind subscribe. But that’s the great thing about this platform, something for everyone.
I loved this video. I am a second year electromechanical engineering student and I like how you break down your thought process and your clever solutions for each problem.
Thanks! It's really rewarding to help people learn, so I'm glad you found it helpful.
Just tip from a CNC machinist... The closer you have the part to the work hold (in this case the collet) the less chatter you will have. Your chess piece came out pretty good, but if you want that fine finish with the rainbow sheen on it, you want the most rigid set up possible. That goes for work piece AND tooling. The less you stick out the tooling, the more rigid it will be! Awesome video!
You are absolutely right, good call! It made the filming a little difficult to have it so close but you are absolutely correct.
Wow, this video makes it look effortless! I'm sure you spent sooo much time on it! Very cool!
We spent a lot of time on this video, but we had a great time making it!
You folks make some of the best UA-cam videos I've ever seen. You are truly talented.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that. We have a Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine that we made which you would love if you enjoyed this. stay tuned, video coming out in 1-2 weeks.
Bloody hell. As a CNC machinist 25+ years and someone who used to fix and repair machines, you have done an absolutely amazing job. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you so much. I really appreciate hearing that from a professional after all that hard work. Any tips you would give me for improvement?
Damn...you guys rock, always a smile on my face when i get a notification of new videos from you guys, why you are still full-time employed is hard to understand, as you have made equipment that would easily be sellable into the maker community, hope you make that transition
I really appreciate this comment. Thank you for your support and kind words. If you love our videos then you will enjoy the next few weeks as we will be releasing a video every week. Making the transition you describe is difficult with such huge machines, but we have a Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine video coming out perhaps next week (pictures already on our website), so that might help.
Thanks again
Dave
WOW!!! This is incredible. you're showing what is possible for people to do at home these days with some intense research, willingness to learn and some determination all this can be accessible to a lot of people
Starting my own machine shop in my home garage and ive bounced around the idea of doing this exact thing. Thank you for the motivation and your work came out amazing. As well as the controller unit. Really enjoy the asthetics of it all.
It's good to have you back guys, your knowledge and effort you put in your videos always amazes me!
Thank you very much. We are launching some cool videos over the next few weeks so make sure to check in. next week is a DIY Metal Injection Molding Machine.
DIY?!? This is legit insane. I really enjoy your simplistic approach to a complicated machine and your "get it done" attitude. You and your brother have earned my subscription, kudos and good luck!
Thanks so much, we are glad you enjoy the content, we are always working on getting it done!
Adam is such a great sport. Helps you with disassembly, lets you use his garage... BIG like from me.
These are the coolest sellers I ever met. I really appreciate them.
I've been following you guys since your humble beggining and I am really impressed by how things are evolving... Both of you are lucky to have each other but also having many supportive people around you... I think in a couple of years you will have your own factory if things continue to progress at this pace. On my side I just wish to have a bit of luck to find some people that hare supprotive and helpful as alone I cannot get much done.
I don’t think many people can convince how much knowledge of engineering, mechanics ,electronics it takes to build something like this. Awesome job
Thank you very much, it definitely took a lot of effort.
Another excellent project! On the collet closer, the draw tube should close under spring pressure (springs rotate with the spindle) and only be opened with your linear actuator. That way the thrust bearings and actuator only have to function during collet release much reducing wear (and heat). Also means you are not putting axial pressure on the spindle bearings during normal operation. Same principle as an automotive clutch.
Wow, Philip as I was reading your comment I was realizing how much better your solution is than mine. Where were you when I was building this machine haha.
Can you share a link to an example of one of these mechanisms so I can get a better visual?
Hope you enjoyed the video.
Cheers,
Dave
lol, This was my only criticism I could think of too. I was wondering how long that tiny thrust bearing would last running constantly under load.
Will not work. You need to be able to clamp the internal diameter too. There is reason hydraulics were used in the original lathe.
@@gioben5444 I dont understand what you are saying
@@HuskyMachining Seems like a popular opinion, This is one of my favorite aspects of posting a video on UA-cam, I get feedback that I have not considered. Thank you very much.
You made all that look easy. Nice!
I don't understand anything apart from the word crane and motor but I'd watch this for hours 😂😂😂
Hahaha, thanks for the support. I hope you are able to learn something new about how CNC lathes are built and work. We have a bunch of other cool videos coming out like a desktop metal injection molding machine.
Hey, nice to see you guys again
Love your videos
Welcome back! We have a barrage of videos coming out this month including a desktop metal injection molding machine. Subscribe and stay tuned.
Beautiful video!
Thank you very much 😃, which part did you like the most?
Doing all this and a full time R&D job!
That must pay incredibly well because those machines are not cheap. 😅
This is beyond impressive!! Your knowledge is wild.
Is amazing to see how much space was saved right after the upgrade.... well done! :)
Absolutely.
Wow just wow. This was so entertaining i didnt want it to end. Subbed
Love it. If you enjoyed this video then you would absolutely appreciate the videos we will be releasing over the next couple of weeks. We have a DIY Metal Injection Molding Machine coming next week.
Nice, but stop mesuring concentricity outside bore. It’s not what matters - measure on the mating surface.
You’re right, measuring concentricity on the outside was unwise. We will make sure to focus on the mating surface moving forward.
Other than that did you find any other issues that we can focus on?
Thank you for the good tip.
That is a great point. Things could be very different.
The color coding of moving parts is genius and simple
hahah, thank you. It actually turned out looking pretty nice as well. what are your thoughts on the bright orange and black?
Saw this in the group. It took a week but got around to it. Good stuff. Only issue i saw is you only need to run enough part stickout to have clearance for the tool changer/tools. You can rough faster and it's not as tough on your tools.
Pretty amazing that you fit this story into one video. Other guys give us many months of detail when attempting something similar. Both are fun!
We appreciate you watching! glad you enjoyed.
Thats crazy i never understood cnc lathes but breaking one down made it soo clear damn thanks
Im happy you could learn from this video. We have another similar one coming out about the CNC mill we bought in the video.,
Awesome video! Super impressed with what you've been able to accomplish and your background as an R&D engineer is clear.
Thank you very much. I hope you enjoyed. Stay tuned for our really cool videos coming out in the next 3 weeks.
とても良い機械だ。
私も日本でcncを作っている。
Very cool.
Bro, you are living the dream. Congrats on making such cool tools and getting paid for it.
Love this build! Nice work
AMAZING build and great find of an old lathe. Now I just need a bigger space!
Thank you very much. Finding the lathe is a bit of a waiting game but when something pops up it will be worth it. Let me know if we can help in any way.
@ActionBOX @ActionBOX I am in the middle of updating a bridgeport boss 6 with a Masso controller. Can't wait to get it up and running.
Good job my friend! 🦾🦾🦾🦾 I recently started retrofitting a CNC lathe CYCLONE DENFORD. I've even uploaded the first videos but there's a ton of work and unforeseen faults, e.g. spindle bearings or slides glued to the guides. Pozdrawiam z Polski 🛠🛠
My friend, I feel your pain. This is definitely a very demanding project. Good on you for sticking with it. Let me know if we can help in any way. How long have you been working on it so far?
@@ActionBOX It's hard to say because it's a side project. The machine arrived on August 18. Until now:
I dismantled the covers (they are waiting for laser cleaning)
I washed the machine and parts
I ripped apart the control cabinet
I shortened the table/base, painted it and added adjustable wheels
I cleaned the revolver, changed the seals - waiting for the motor (I'll also add a stepper motor)
I dismantled the spindle - the bearings are destroyed
I glued new slides to the guides - they need to be machined and scraped
For now I'm doing fine but if you have any problems please help, thank you :)
Well done job! A lot of technical information and setting up the machine to work for your needs.
Glad you enjoyed it! We had a lot of fun building this.
Holy shit, crazy deal u got and your engineering background knowledge is very showing. Very proud
I really appreciate that, it was a ton of work and I'm glad it's appreciated
Very cool, thanks! Would love to see some more in depth discussion of the engineering process (research, calculations, trade offs etc.)
Sounds good. We will try to make a follow up video like we did with our diy cnc mill.
AWESOME STUFF 🙌🙌🙌
Glad you enjoyed it! What was your favorite part?
Criminally underrated channel.
Hahah. Thanks for your support 😃
That's so cool! What is even left to add? A stock feeder?
Superb renovation
Thanks a lot
Very creative idea! It's amazing how simple the electronics are now compared to the early industrial machines. Getting the ways square on a DIY machine is a real challenge. Wish I had the space for one of these ;-)
Damn, tremendous amount of work and very cool
Thank you very much .
Incredible channel tbh. I got recommended the CNC one just a few weeks ago and I’m fully caught up now. Excited for the metal 3d printer video. Don’t know how you’ll keep it up with these impressive builds but please do.
Thank you so much! It really means a lot to hear that you enjoy our videos. I’m glad you are on the journey with us. We have quite a few impressive videos coming out in the next few weeks so stay tuned. Cheers
Extremely talented young man. He also clearly has a relentless work ethic.
Thank you very much. I appreciate your support
Very impressive.. keep up the good work. You sir, are going places.
Thanks so much, I appreciate your kind words.
Dave
Good job. Beautiful machines!!
Thank you very much!
Damn, I'm genuinly jealous!
What you did is beyond amazing!!!
Thank you!
I thought I was going to watch something cool, but instead I learned a new use for a tool I already have, never considered using the centro in the lathe, thanks for the great idea guys
absolutely, thanks for watching.
You deserve more sub and views!! Awesome project.
Thanks, I appreciate the support!
Great video.Thanks
It was very interesting seeing the full process!
As a professional Mazak Field Engineer, i'm pretty impressed about your project. Hopefully, when I retire in about 10 Years I will find he time to do something similar 😊
Happy to hear that coming from a professional. Thank you for watching.
Looks great! I did CNC servo conversions of my manual machines years ago, then upgraded, but not to true professional machines. Reminds me of when I went from Cincinatti to Detroit to get a Tormach Mill and get it home to my garage all solo... Then it didn't fit in the garage so had to partially disassemble it in the dark to get it to fit so I could return the trailer. Couldn't get it off the trailer, so dragged it off with my lawn tractor lol. How many RPM you getting out of the spindle? looks really low. Your controller and pendant are laughably cheap compared to even just a few years ago. Nice to see this all get more affordable!
I feel your pain, but I'm glad to know Im not alone in this hahah. My spindle RPM is indeed low with a maximum of 3000RPM, but it's perfect for my home shop needs. Thank you for your support.
I've been using masso for years and haven't ever had any issues. I own 2 G3's on two machines with tool changers that never had a single problem. If I ever build another machine that's the controller I'll buy again.
It definitely has a ton of issues and software bugs. It doesn’t run some useful code like g83 tapping cycles.
@@ActionBOX that's odd. I've never had any issues with mine. And I flash every latest firmware they release. I did have a issue with my toolchanger once but I flashed back to the previous firmware and it went away. As anything, it depends on what you're using it for determines what issues you'll find. I've gotten lucky I guess. Lol.
WOW!!! Great video! That was a lot of hard work. How long did this process take?
Brilliant 🌺 a masterpiece of innovation. congratulations for your outstanding efforts
Thank you! Glad you liked it.
I liked the buttons and screen.
I wish I would be half as capable as you guys are. The stuff you pull off is insane
Please put out that DIY Metal 3D Printer video! I am very excited to learn from it and hopefully build a version of that.
It's coming. we have our Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine video coming out first (INJEKTO M) and after that the printer
@@ActionBOX Great news! I am very excited for both the videos! All the best man!
This came out the same day I finished my CNC mini lathe from scratch!
hahah, thats awesome. I would love to see it. Are you willing to share some pics with us?
@@ActionBOX Sure! I've attached some shortened image links at the bottom of the machine and one of the parts it made. Keep in mind I'm a college student on a pretty tight budget so it's not the most glamorous machine, especially compared to the stuff you've made. Total cost was around $150. The bed and headstock are 3d printed shells with a concrete rebar+wire mixture poured in them. Motor needs replacement as it's only 250W and struggles a bit with torque. Entire spindle and chuck mounting arrangement was made by me on a university lathe. Electronics are functional if not nice looking. I made the carriage and all the aluminum components on my equally jank budget CNC router. I can send images of that as well if you want, but that's it's own thing. Overall I'm pretty happy with how it turned out since it's definitely one of the more ambitious projects I've done. Still on my to-do list is a tailstock, a better toolpost mount, since the current one is really weird, and a few other quality improvements.
Lathe: tinyurl.com/3954mwnd
Test Part: tinyurl.com/2ssh9msf
@@ActionBOX Sure! Do you have a good way for me to send images? I made a comment earlier going over the general construction that I think got deleted due to having image links in it.
Nice job guys
. Please post more of the same videos
"Oh and by the way im also building a vacuum furnace"
Just a casual mention there.
Youve hust gained a new subscriber mate. this channel, Your engineering knowledgeable, passion and explanation is absolutely phenomenal.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!
Awesome project! Honestly an amazing deal for 1500 as long as you got the space, knowledge and skills!
My only concern is 24:28, doesn't the constant stress of the motor weighing down on the plastic bracket cause it to creep overtime?
Can't wait to see the vacuum furnace build!!
Good point. The answer is perhaps. I dont use this as an industrial lathe (24/7) I use it as needed everyone and then so I anticipate the piece will last longer than me. Regardless, the beauty in this project is that I can just reprint a new on in 4 hours and replace the part.
We have some really cool videos coming out once a week for the next little while, so stay tuned. Looking forward to your comments in our new videos.
Dave
Wow you make it look so easy. For me it would take a year.
Thank you
Well done!
Awesome find, those old Emcos are built like a tank! I know I own two. 😊
Oh yeah, the old electronics are worth something. Sinumerik parts are well built!
thats good to know. Its too bad I recycled that massive spindle motor for $50
@@ActionBOXWell, not something you think when you get the complete machine for pennies. How fast can you spin the spindle, seems a bit slow? The original depends on the model can turn to 4000rpm and and you want that on smaller parts.
the sheer number of hours it'll take me to do all this is unfathomable
awesome video dude, just a little tip with o ring. use silicone grease or some sort to lubricate it. it protects it better from being damaged.
Great tip! I'll give that a shot.
I love this so much. I was born into the wrong situation. I have the capacity but have no clue how to bridge the gap from where I am to get to this point. It's awesome to watch you work though, great content!
This is really cool!
Very awesome work guys
Really loved the machine
Thanks a bunch.
Loved the video. Very well made. Will there also be a video of fixing up the haas mill?
Thank you, im glad you enjoyed. Yes that video will come out in about 3-4 weeks. over the next week or two we will launch a video of our Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine. I am super excited for it as it's likely the coolest machine we have ever built. Stay tuned to see that. Cheers, Dave
Cool vid. I hope you bought the seller a beer for being pretty cool about all the work you did on his site (cleaning, dissasembly etc). Most would not allow that.
They were seriously the coolest people Ive met in a while.
This is very good thanks for the information.
You're making a vacuum furnance too??? Awesome.
You got it, we have a video about it coming out soon. Dont forget to subscribe to be notified. Looking forward to your comment on that video Joel
That's huge! I'm working currently on a CNC lathe too, but that's tons of work. Btw what is that in front of the main spindle? Is that a tailstock of any kind or a second spindle?
I am well aware, I check in with your channel every now and then. Great stuff you do and I would love to collaborate with you on our Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine (video coming out in 1 - 2 weeks). To answer your question that was a massive tailstock, not a spindle.
Cheers,
Dave
@@ActionBOX So great to hear that you check in some time! :) If you'd like to contact with me just let me know. Metal injection molding machines are really interesting stuff too - I'd love to build one in the future but that needs tons of knowledge for sure too. Btw what kind of tailstock is that? Hydraulic? Pneumatic? Electric motor? Are you going to use it? I'm going to make a pneumatic tailstock for my lathe with electro-pneumatic pressure valve control (0-10V from panel). Keep up your work! Greetings!
@@GBWM_CNC The tailstock was Hydraulic. I converted it to Electric and then realized I just dont need it in my machine for the type of work I do, so I pulled it out.
@@ActionBOX That makes sense!
Amazing job
Thank you very much.
This is a superb video!
Thank you so much!
Wow every minute of this video would be 1 video from a "common" youtuber
This is really impressive, great job.
If I make a CNC in the future I will take a look at this Masso controller, it looks pretty good!
Thanks for watching! Let us know if we can help.
Watching stuff like that gets me thinking I need one of those too 😬
I remeber when I had your dedication, you won the race and finished the project!
Thank you very much my friend.
wow! what a piece of work, nice job
Thanks, I had a lot of fun making it!
Do I need/want to make one of these? No, but Im still gonna watch and comment to help your video analytics, even if its only a little bit. You guys always make fantastic content, and I hope your channel keeps growing, and that you get to do more and more projects in the future :)
haha, Thanks a bunch Kyle, We appreciate it. I look forward to your comment on our video next week. We built a DIY Desktop Metal Injection Molding Machine. it's awesome.
cool video. I'm about to start machining the baseplate for a little 5c cnc lathe I'm building and I'm going with the same MASSO controller.
I'm also a high vacuum nerd so I'm pumped to see your next video!
o heck yeah. Im so curious to see what you have to say about our DIY High Vacuum Furnace next week. I dont want you to hold back though, I want all your honest thoughts hahah.
Glad you enjoyed the the video.
Dave
i hope you kept the original servo. as you can run it at much lower power then its rated if you replace the controller. or it still works
I still have them but im thinking of recycling them. I cant think of any need for them.
@@ActionBOX sell them as spare parts. Probably gonna get much more than scrap value
The spring load for the collet is better solution.
The LinuxCNC + mesa cards not need other electronics as an Ardiuno. (you can program it inside the software)
Just when I start thinking I’m smart, I see a video like this and I’m instantly humbled. Subbed.
Glad you enjoyed, thanks for subscribing!
Very nice, very impressive!
Thanks, it was a lot of work!
No idea how I ended up here but this is awesome
haha thank you! Clearly the UA-cam algorithm is doing a great job 😜
This was an ambitious project well done. Definitely worth a like and subscribe 😊
Thanks so much, I appreciate that!
Bro, you are a pro!
I have concerns with the clamping mechanism. If a bolt sheers from fatigue the work could leave the chuck. Why did you choose to remove hydraulics? The accuracy of clamping pressure is Vital for thin wall parts and repeatability.
Seems, per the comments, that it would have been wiser to have the chuck constantly activated via a spring, and then use the actuator to open the chuck instead. this would act as a failsafe. Good catch.
@@ActionBOX Yes that would be wise. Still would have the problem of controlling clamping pressure for repeatability. Maybe have the spring load tension variable with a nut. Similar to a shock absorber.