As an MR-S owner, I feel your points accurately describe some of the difficulties with it. That's why my other car, my daily, is an AWD GS 350. That way I get something great for two distinct use cases. But lemme tell you.. boooooooooooooy is the MR-S a fun car to drive. It's the best handling & probably most fun car I've ever driven personally.
2zz is life!! I have it in a 03 Pontiac vibe which is way heavier than that MR-S and i still have a blast.. it never gets old seeing the look on peoples faces when i do a pull its the ultimate sleeper 😁
Yes agreed - the Accord is a better car overall, but it needs mods to be as exciting to drive as the Celica. If the Accord had the K20A instead of K24 (to sound more like the 2ZZ) it wouldn't even be a comparison. The accord would have all the thrills with none of the drawbacks.
@@KiwiCarLife get yourself a RSX TYPE S oil pump (k20a2 oil pump) And get yourself a rbc or aftermarket intake manifold Here people do that and rev their k24 over 8400rpm !
My first drive in my 2zz mr-s was a 10 hour drive when i flew in to buy it. After about 3 hours of driving my legs were numb lol. Definitely not a long trip car. But as far as every day car, this is perfect for me. I drive it everyday to work, i pick up my daughters from school in it, one at a time of course, i use it to haul stuff from home depot! I mean this thing gets used as a truck and a bus everyday 😂. My idea when i biught the car was to have it as a weekend/track car. It became my daily simply because i enjoy driving it so much and my “daily” cars have become secondary cars. My current daily is a 2014 acura mdx before that was an infiniti Q50S hybrid, and before that was a 2004 subaru sti. My lil mr-s has over 240k miles now and all my other cars barely got any miles put on them. I guess my priority is fun when i drive
Yeah totally get that man. It's super fun but yeah I do quite a lot of road trips so having a second more comfortable for me would be a must. Or (and this is the point I've made in a lot of my videos) I could just make my daily more fun to drive and faster, which is what I've done and that's good enough for me
Hi kiwicarlife, love the cars and vids you put out. I have a CL9 accord as well and was wondering what wheels you are running on your car now? Cheers Joel
While a small roadster like the MR-S is impractical even by sports car standards, I'd choose it over the Celica as a fun to drive 2nd car for two reasons: 1.) The ability to drop the top. 2.) Rear-wheel drive.
You can have the K24 sound way more aggressive and make more power all the way till 8800rpm rev limit with doing a basic K20 Type S/R oil pump to support high revs and a RBC Intake manifold swap to increase top end and your K24 would be screaming just like the the K20A from the EURO R but with way more power and torque ofcourse
@@ulisesavila2879 are you even in your senses k24 swapped s2000 vs F22 S2000 I don't see your so called k20 here champ and the k24 clearly won here from the f22c so whats the point of posting this if there is no Co called k20 here you drunk or something
loving this videos on cars that big american cartubers dont talk about such as legacys and this mr-s do you film these videos in wellington bro? looks familiar as. you should try and do a video on the toyota blade master g, 3.5L v6 in a hatchback is nuts
When I first test drove my mrs I missed third almost every time and ended up in 5th. Got used to it after another drive before I bought it. It’s my daily driver
I’ve never driven a decent Honda manual but nothing has compared to my old vzr pulsar 5 speed. Quick precise and more mechanical than any Toyota I’ve driven
I'm a Honda person at heart but honestly the 2ZZ screams. My RunX Z hass a blitz intake. HD clutch and Teins. Can flatshift easy. Loves it tbh. Clutch upgrade well worth it in any car.
And that folks is why people spend the extra money and K swap the MR2. I honestly thought the Toyota would have gapped the Accord very easily but that K24 has decent torque. But all that aside the MR2 shines in the twisty roads.
Yup, i have a 1987 2zz swapped tercel/starlet 2zz is nice and is a lot of fun, makes decent power for a light car but i wish i would of just spent the big bucks to go kswap or v6. Here in north america all 3 options are very accessible but kswaps the aftermarket is more expensive but offers a very good rpm and torque combo
I think we need to come back to the fact he's got those type R gear set . Stock box in there and it's a different story IMO. Still feel the 2zz is the way to go for the mr2 , toyota chassis deserves a toyota heart.
Oh yeah absolutely man it rips! Weight difference makes up the power difference and besides, my accord only makes about 165kW, this is probs about 145 so not a huge difference
Yeah good call mate can't be too bias haha. Would love to pick up a Spyder and do a 2zz swap. I currently have a runxz corolla with the 2zz 6sp its a great daily(but has 280km on it) i hope someone in the community hits you up to drive one they have all the creature comforts too.
@@KiwiCarLife actually stock mr2 spyders are very soft and so quiet you can barely hear them. Mine has progressive lowering springs that were too soft for me so I cut mine to lower the car more for my fender flares. Now it rides more like a modern sports car with the soft part of the spring absorbing bumps and the stiff part for 0 lean. My lotus type exhaust has the perfect sound ratio with virtually no drone and it’s loud enough when you want it to be with a quality exhaust note. Ps my spyder has been my daily for 6 years. My sti is my race car and my practical car when I need 4 seats and a larger trunk.
I don't expect my MR2 to to fill the same want/need as say a more "daily driver"... MR2s can be had cheap enough, to be just that fun "on the side car". Sure I see your point if you could only have ONE car. In such case WRX probably be my choice... but for now I'll take the V6 Accord or CX-5 on long trips, and go around town / on tracks with the MR2s :)
I Quite agree with you cause I do not like noisy vehicles because it will wake the neighbors The Hyundai that I got is very quiet it is not a hybrid, but it is a very nice cozy vehicle to drive have you ever drove a Hyunadi Tuson before it is a quite good car as well it's picking up speed quite quickly. Thanks Again
Hey, just asking about my CL9. What fuel do you use, I was recommended 95 by my friend who also owns a CL9 and the dealer that sold my CL9. But my other friends were giving me so much hassle saying my car can run 91 no problem. Did some searching and the car can run 91 no problem. So, just asking what is your opinion on the fuel I should run. Cheers bro
Run it on 95, it's what is rated to run on and it'll be more efficient, so while it'll cost more to fill, itll get better fuel economy cancelling it out
Trying to compare a 20+ year old car in not so good shape to your much newer Honda is dumb. Of course the Celica is going to make rattles and not be a cozy as the newer car. And you beat the snot out of the Celica on the test drive and baby your own car.
YEAHHHHH I AGREE!!! THE ACCORD IS BETTER IN EVERY WAY!!! EVERYONE GO BUY THE ACCORD!!!!! so that MR2 prices stay low for us wild enthusiasts. I am a huge fan of gokarts.
I don't know why Toyota didn't release a factory 2zz 6sp manual version of the MR2. Everything was there and in my opinion it was a failed opportunity. I use to work for Toyota just as the last gen MR2 was being discontinued yet thankful got a chance to drive it. I was so very impressed the the steering and handeling yet disappointed with the shitty single clutch automated manual that would take a weekend to shift and wouldn't allow a launch. As for the one you'r reviewing it seems like the shif time are really hurting the acceleration, in addition to rebuilding the syncros, I think a lighter flywheel will help shifts, seems like the problem is fast shifts aren't possible or smooth cause the revs don't drop quick enough to match when going into the next gear causing extra wear on the syncos also.
"an absolute rocket ship / this thing is nutty / just raw outrageous power "...umm... no ... i have a 2zz swapped 01 frog myself... its "peppy" at best. ( an EXTREMELY spirited car for sure ) ! yeah its a TON quicker then the stock 1zz. ( after lift )... but i wouldnt "claim" its an "absolute rocket ship"... i absolutely LOVE mine!! but its NOT fast by any means... good vid though !
For all of the conversation about making the Accord a better sports car, you spend very little time on the sort of twisty roads where a sports car would actually shine. After watching a few of your videos now, I've noticed that aside from comfort, straight-line performance seems to be your primary consideration as to how the cars stack up. Not that there is anything wrong with this, but you might consider reframing some of your talking points to match your focus.
The reason I just do pulls up and down onramps is because I try keep my videos under about 10 minutes, which means I really only have about 2 and a half minutes of driving to cram in all my points. And I've come to the conclusion that the most interesting content is just hearing the engine being taken to redline through multiple gears frankly. Corners are fun, but most of the roads around here you can't fully unleash the engine between corners as they're too narrow and windy which I've found doesn't make for terribly interesting content. That said I do appreciate that you've taken the time to give constructive feedback rather than just abusing me hahah
My dads got a 2001 Toyota Corolla runx 2zz nz new and it scream even with out an exhaust suck punchy lil engine I remember the one he raced a Nissan skyline 20de and dropped him hahah
Your videos are very honda FAN boy. All the Toyota products are rattle and impractical. According to you your Honda Accord is better than everything else.
And your comments sound very Toyota fan boy! ;) I just really value cars that are well rounded. As you've admitted, Toyotas are rattly and impractical, so while they might have great engines and be good fun to drive on a twisty road, cars like the celica and mr-s really are single purpose vehicles. Hondas naturally tend to be more practical and better built, and equally fun to drive which is why I prefer them (and so does most of the car community hence why they tend to be more expensive these days). But find me a toyota with a great engine and transmission, beautiful interior and comfortable but sporty ride and I'll think it's the best car ever! I just haven't driven one yet. Putting price aside, the integra IS better than the celica, the accord IS better than the camry, the S2000 IS better than the MR-S and so on... I think my thoughts are justified. Now ofc when you bring price into it that changes things, but with these comparisons we're only looking at the cars.
@@KiwiCarLife What about the Toyota ARISTO twinTurbo ? Order Toyota chaser 1jz? Those are proper turbo charge 4 doors that your Accord could not dream of bearing ? Caldina GT4 ? The MR2 turbo is definitely better than the S2000. Toyota has a much larger pro folio than Honda and make better cars than Honda. Celica GT4 turbo ? What honda is better then that ? You’re really over selling your family sedan last time I checked sports cars or about driving not comfort. How about you test your record against the Lexus ISF V8 ?
@@KiwiCarLife test your four-door against a proper Toyota four-door like a TwinTurbo Toyota ARISTO and stop with the bullshit the Toyota aristo is built five times better than your accord makes more power and proper rear wheel drive. Find a six speed manual Toyota chaser one Jay Z I would have would love to see you say you’re a accord is better than that
@@KiwiCarLife So what if they’re single purpose of vehicles isn’t a Bugatti a single purpose vehicle or Ferrari does that make them less of a thing ? If you’re a fan boy for your accord no problem you can love it but best believe people are gonna call you out on your bullshit
@@KiwiCarLife I don’t hide behind my name I can change my username to honda for life if I felt like it but the fact still remains test your four-door sedan against a proper Toyota performance four-door sedan make a video testing against 1jz Toyota chaser or a TwinTurbo Toyota ARISTO those are four-door performance Toyota sedans you’re making these videos as if your Honda is better than all Toyota ‘s when it’s not Toyota makes faster and more powerful sedans then Honda. This MR2 with its mid engine set up is a much better handling and track car then your a accord this is basically a small NSX it’s supposed to be about driving fell not comfort how can it be a knock against the car that’s not designed for a specific thing in the first place ? Literally no one cares that these cars have more plastic on the interiors these cars are being bought for the way that they drive and how they look there are two different people buying these cars and your Honda Accord
U think im goint to let go my honda DC5 because theres not too much space oh because i cant fit anything inside..😭🤣🤣💀 buddy That's y u have more then one car the dc5 is too have fun feel the power not to put shitt in the back or anything lol.. thats a classic car..
I have 1998 integra type r usdm and i dont even let my kidz get close to it or play around it.. i doo give them a ride once a while.. but nott too much when they grow up they'll know the value and what this car really ment to their pops..💯💯💯♥️
And to think, the ONLY reason why Toyota didn’t put the 2ZZ in the MR-2 from factory is because they didn’t want to step on Lotus’ foot 🤦🏾♂️ Also, I miss my TSX (US). The 08 TSX in the US only revved to 7,600 rpm’s though. Still had the classic I-Vtec lift which was nice, but it only lasted for 1,600 rpm’s which was kinda dumb.
As an MR-S owner, I feel your points accurately describe some of the difficulties with it. That's why my other car, my daily, is an AWD GS 350. That way I get something great for two distinct use cases.
But lemme tell you.. boooooooooooooy is the MR-S a fun car to drive. It's the best handling & probably most fun car I've ever driven personally.
Absolutely agree! Finally someone who understands my points. Thank you sir
2zz is life!! I have it in a 03 Pontiac vibe which is way heavier than that MR-S and i still have a blast.. it never gets old seeing the look on peoples faces when i do a pull its the ultimate sleeper 😁
Oh yeah man so good
imo the cl9 is way better than the celica sport, comfort, drive-ability and luxury wise. great video, that 2zz sound is absolutely bonkers
Yes agreed - the Accord is a better car overall, but it needs mods to be as exciting to drive as the Celica. If the Accord had the K20A instead of K24 (to sound more like the 2ZZ) it wouldn't even be a comparison. The accord would have all the thrills with none of the drawbacks.
@@KiwiCarLife get yourself a RSX TYPE S oil pump (k20a2 oil pump)
And get yourself a rbc or aftermarket intake manifold
Here people do that and rev their k24 over 8400rpm !
My first drive in my 2zz mr-s was a 10 hour drive when i flew in to buy it. After about 3 hours of driving my legs were numb lol. Definitely not a long trip car. But as far as every day car, this is perfect for me. I drive it everyday to work, i pick up my daughters from school in it, one at a time of course, i use it to haul stuff from home depot! I mean this thing gets used as a truck and a bus everyday 😂. My idea when i biught the car was to have it as a weekend/track car. It became my daily simply because i enjoy driving it so much and my “daily” cars have become secondary cars. My current daily is a 2014 acura mdx before that was an infiniti Q50S hybrid, and before that was a 2004 subaru sti. My lil mr-s has over 240k miles now and all my other cars barely got any miles put on them. I guess my priority is fun when i drive
Yeah totally get that man. It's super fun but yeah I do quite a lot of road trips so having a second more comfortable for me would be a must. Or (and this is the point I've made in a lot of my videos) I could just make my daily more fun to drive and faster, which is what I've done and that's good enough for me
@@KiwiCarLife the beauty of car community man. Theres something out there for everyone.
That's one MR-S i would have, i've never liked these due to looks but this one looks good, not sure why.
Awesome video my dude, really curious about your Z BMW. Looking forward for a video on it!
Thanks man
The rattle trap adds to the experience. 100kms in an MR-S is going to feel faster than the more refined Accord.
Yes but also worse
For sure. I would feel much more comfortable doing 150 in an Accord but it would feel twitchy AF in an MR-S
@@christopherjohnston6343 yep try hitting a bump while one hand changing volume if you want to stop your heart for a few seconds 😂
You need to drive a corolla tsport-runx with the 2zz. Much more of a proper daily driver.
That's true I think I'd like them a lot more. Driven the 1zz manuals a lot and they're great cars
I have a JDM RunX Z in the naki with the 2ZZ
Hi kiwicarlife, love the cars and vids you put out. I have a CL9 accord as well and was wondering what wheels you are running on your car now? Cheers Joel
i think he has a video on his channel where he details all mods on his car currently :)
He has Sparco DS1 wheels painted black, can’t remember the offset though.
@@xenonsaccord4447 yeah sparco ds1, 18x7.5 +48
i can recommend any one piece work wheel on the cl7 / cl9 they look absolutely stunning with them.
You should consider doing a versus with the accord vs a Subaru twin turbo b4 or gtb wagon, would really love to see even a versus with a wrx vs b4
I have compared it with a 3.0R before?
@@KiwiCarLife I mean with the pre 2003 twin turbo models such as the rsk rev d
While a small roadster like the MR-S is impractical even by sports car standards, I'd choose it over the Celica as a fun to drive 2nd car for two reasons: 1.) The ability to drop the top. 2.) Rear-wheel drive.
Fair enough, I probably would too tbh
You can have the K24 sound way more aggressive and make more power all the way till 8800rpm rev limit with doing a basic K20 Type S/R oil pump to support high revs and a RBC Intake manifold swap to increase top end and your K24 would be screaming just like the the K20A from the EURO R but with way more power and torque ofcourse
Yeah that's true that would be a nice mod
The amount of money to make a k24 reliable in that rpm range is better spent in swap that accord into a k20
@@ulisesavila2879 you mean downgrade to a K20 with way less torque good joke a k24 with a k20 head and RBC manifold >any k20 any day of the week
@@FB6K24Z7 this is your "downgrade" ua-cam.com/video/ntn8IHOUfgI/v-deo.html
@@ulisesavila2879 are you even in your senses k24 swapped s2000 vs F22 S2000 I don't see your so called k20 here champ and the k24 clearly won here from the f22c so whats the point of posting this if there is no Co called k20 here you drunk or something
great vid man
that mr-2 sounds tasty AF.
gonna go check out a mr-2 spyder on sale this weekend.
so excited to join the club
Oooh nice!
That Accord is absolutely beautiful. You guys get some beautiful cars there.
Thanks man
loving this videos on cars that big american cartubers dont talk about such as legacys and this mr-s do you film these videos in wellington bro? looks familiar as. you should try and do a video on the toyota blade master g, 3.5L v6 in a hatchback is nuts
Thanks man and yeah I got a mate with a blade master, might have to hit him up
When I first test drove my mrs I missed third almost every time and ended up in 5th. Got used to it after another drive before I bought it. It’s my daily driver
I’ve never driven a decent Honda manual but nothing has compared to my old vzr pulsar 5 speed. Quick precise and more mechanical than any Toyota I’ve driven
@@gomy95 yeah if you get a chance to drive an s2000, cl7/9, fd2r, dc5r or ep3r you should - they have very nice feeling transmissions
Awesome Vid mate. Really enjoyed it. Keep it up.
Thanks man
I'm a Honda person at heart but honestly the 2ZZ screams. My RunX Z hass a blitz intake. HD clutch and Teins. Can flatshift easy. Loves it tbh. Clutch upgrade well worth it in any car.
Yeah man the 2zz is very Honda like that's why I love it
Hi KiwiCarLife, Do you have any plans on doing a comparison against your Accord and a 2008 Honda Accord Euro?
By 2008 do you mean CU2? (they made both the CL9 and CU2 in 08) Because if so I've already done it:
ua-cam.com/video/vc8ioMRLafQ/v-deo.html
Yes! I have a CU2 and I wanted to see how it would compare. The manual version of the CU2 is rare.
@@andymaklakov Very!
Good day good day and welcome to the only amazing nz review on jdm cars lol
Thanks man!
I really want to do a MR S 2ZZ swap, just brought a mint RunX Z with a 2ZZ been in a crash.
Oh nice yeah would definitely recommend the swap
And that folks is why people spend the extra money and K swap the MR2. I honestly thought the Toyota would have gapped the Accord very easily but that K24 has decent torque.
But all that aside the MR2 shines in the twisty roads.
That's true...
Yup, i have a 1987 2zz swapped tercel/starlet
2zz is nice and is a lot of fun, makes decent power for a light car but i wish i would of just spent the big bucks to go kswap or v6. Here in north america all 3 options are very accessible but kswaps the aftermarket is more expensive but offers a very good rpm and torque combo
I think we need to come back to the fact he's got those type R gear set . Stock box in there and it's a different story IMO. Still feel the 2zz is the way to go for the mr2 , toyota chassis deserves a toyota heart.
For basic bolt ons on the 2zz did pretty well against your full bolt ons reflashed more displacement accord
Oh yeah absolutely man it rips! Weight difference makes up the power difference and besides, my accord only makes about 165kW, this is probs about 145 so not a huge difference
Yeah good call mate can't be too bias haha. Would love to pick up a Spyder and do a 2zz swap.
I currently have a runxz corolla with the 2zz 6sp its a great daily(but has 280km on it) i hope someone in the community hits you up to drive one they have all the creature comforts too.
Yeah would like to check out the 2zz in the Corolla, then I would have completed the set
You could get a shell but have one car or save up and buy a mrs swap the 1zz into the corrolla, 2zz into the mrs and use the corolla for daily
Need an mr2 Spyder in my life.
They're so good man!
Need to compare your accord to e46 330i manual
Yesss that would be excellent however manuals are impossible to find
6:35 'who flippin cares, mate?' casually gets passed by some family car hahaha
HAHA yep that was my mate in a legacy 3.0R - he definitely wasn't just casually coming past haha he was going hard
@@KiwiCarLife love ur vids, i myself have a honda accord euro cl9 keep it up
Are you going to do a build series with your new car?
Maybe...
Near on 180 pull straight off the bat that's real fast.
Ohh don't think I was going that fast haha
Japan Power Toyatas and Hondas the best engines the best rpm and sound i love japan scholl
Yeah they make lovely engines
Hmm I have both, sounds interesting but I’d bet on the mr2. Let’s see how it turns out!
Interesting
@@KiwiCarLife actually stock mr2 spyders are very soft and so quiet you can barely hear them. Mine has progressive lowering springs that were too soft for me so I cut mine to lower the car more for my fender flares. Now it rides more like a modern sports car with the soft part of the spring absorbing bumps and the stiff part for 0 lean. My lotus type exhaust has the perfect sound ratio with virtually no drone and it’s loud enough when you want it to be with a quality exhaust note. Ps my spyder has been my daily for 6 years. My sti is my race car and my practical car when I need 4 seats and a larger trunk.
Hi, nice video 👍 Have a question for the mr-s, which rear spoiler is this one and where to buy ? Cheers
No idea sorry not knowledgeable on parts for these cars - probably a TRD one at a guess
I don't expect my MR2 to to fill the same want/need as say a more "daily driver"... MR2s can be had cheap enough, to be just that fun "on the side car". Sure I see your point if you could only have ONE car. In such case WRX probably be my choice... but for now I'll take the V6 Accord or CX-5 on long trips, and go around town / on tracks with the MR2s :)
Yeah that’s a good way of doing it
Just recently had to get my mr-s gearbox rebuilt as couldn’t find a second hand one. Almost as much as I paid for the whole car 😬 at least it’s lsd
Goodness
Was that a glimpse of down pipe i see on your intake?
HAH yes...
@@KiwiCarLife I see I am not the only one then 😂😂
When will we see a video with your new car?
Hmmm probably not for a while as I gotta get it tidied up before I wanna show it
I Quite agree with you cause I do not like noisy vehicles because it will wake the neighbors The Hyundai that I got is very quiet it is not a hybrid, but it is a very nice cozy vehicle to drive have you ever drove a Hyunadi Tuson before it is a quite good car as well it's picking up speed quite quickly.
Thanks Again
I mean, you don't have to hit high Lift cam in your neighbourhood. We drive what we like. Some like it quiet, some like it loud.
y e s
Fark the neighbours
Hey, just asking about my CL9. What fuel do you use, I was recommended 95 by my friend who also owns a CL9 and the dealer that sold my CL9. But my other friends were giving me so much hassle saying my car can run 91 no problem. Did some searching and the car can run 91 no problem. So, just asking what is your opinion on the fuel I should run. Cheers bro
Run it on 95, it's what is rated to run on and it'll be more efficient, so while it'll cost more to fill, itll get better fuel economy cancelling it out
@@KiwiCarLife cheers for the advice mate
Trying to compare a 20+ year old car in not so good shape to your much newer Honda is dumb. Of course the Celica is going to make rattles and not be a cozy as the newer car. And you beat the snot out of the Celica on the test drive and baby your own car.
Yes you're right, the accord is a much better car. My point exactly
Kiwi car comfort life LOL. I'm on the same route now heading into my 30s.
Haha yeah man, tin cans are fun for a bit, but like I said, I couldn't own one
YEAHHHHH I AGREE!!! THE ACCORD IS BETTER IN EVERY WAY!!! EVERYONE GO BUY THE ACCORD!!!!! so that MR2 prices stay low for us wild enthusiasts. I am a huge fan of gokarts.
lol
Hey can you help me get in touch with the owner of the MRS. I have my own and I’m wanting to do a 2zz swap and I want to talk to him about it. Thanks
I would but it would be a breach of privacy as I only have a phone number
@@KiwiCarLife all good, I understand
I don't know why Toyota didn't release a factory 2zz 6sp manual version of the MR2. Everything was there and in my opinion it was a failed opportunity.
I use to work for Toyota just as the last gen MR2 was being discontinued yet thankful got a chance to drive it.
I was so very impressed the the steering and handeling yet disappointed with the shitty single clutch automated manual that would take a weekend to shift and wouldn't allow a launch.
As for the one you'r reviewing it seems like the shif time are really hurting the acceleration, in addition to rebuilding the syncros, I think a lighter flywheel will help shifts, seems like the problem is fast shifts aren't possible or smooth cause the revs don't drop quick enough to match when going into the next gear causing extra wear on the syncos also.
Yeah would have been cool if they did aye
Because of the Elise
Everytime he says header i hear heater 😆
Lol
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"an absolute rocket ship / this thing is nutty / just raw outrageous power "...umm... no ...
i have a 2zz swapped 01 frog myself... its "peppy" at best. ( an EXTREMELY spirited car for sure ) !
yeah its a TON quicker then the stock 1zz. ( after lift )... but i wouldnt "claim" its an "absolute rocket ship"...
i absolutely LOVE mine!! but its NOT fast by any means... good vid though !
Depends what you define as fast. Not fast compared to what? For a 1.8 it's very fast
It’s literally like a s2000 but a toyota version
Well... I mean it's mid engined for starters but I can see where you're coming from
For all of the conversation about making the Accord a better sports car, you spend very little time on the sort of twisty roads where a sports car would actually shine. After watching a few of your videos now, I've noticed that aside from comfort, straight-line performance seems to be your primary consideration as to how the cars stack up. Not that there is anything wrong with this, but you might consider reframing some of your talking points to match your focus.
The reason I just do pulls up and down onramps is because I try keep my videos under about 10 minutes, which means I really only have about 2 and a half minutes of driving to cram in all my points. And I've come to the conclusion that the most interesting content is just hearing the engine being taken to redline through multiple gears frankly. Corners are fun, but most of the roads around here you can't fully unleash the engine between corners as they're too narrow and windy which I've found doesn't make for terribly interesting content.
That said I do appreciate that you've taken the time to give constructive feedback rather than just abusing me hahah
7:34 that facial expression haha
Haha yeah man so good
Take that K24 and put it in the Mr2 Spyder then you will have a real good time.
Oh yeah I imagine haha
You can't compare a k24 with mods to a stock 2zz. The modify engine must win
Yeah even a modified 2zz tho I'd still pick the k24
@@KiwiCarLife the k24 make so many power with simple mods and it have so many aftermarket parts.
That K24 has some serious Power or the 2ZZ is a bit weaker if it the Honda can keep up like this :O
Only about 165kW it's not that much more than stock
The k24 is a torque monster with a "truck" like curve too. It is normal for it to pull strong in the beginning
My dads got a 2001 Toyota Corolla runx 2zz nz new and it scream even with out an exhaust suck punchy lil engine I remember the one he raced a Nissan skyline 20de and dropped him hahah
Oh yeah mate they're so good
Your videos are very honda FAN boy.
All the Toyota products are rattle and impractical. According to you your Honda Accord is better than everything else.
And your comments sound very Toyota fan boy! ;)
I just really value cars that are well rounded. As you've admitted, Toyotas are rattly and impractical, so while they might have great engines and be good fun to drive on a twisty road, cars like the celica and mr-s really are single purpose vehicles.
Hondas naturally tend to be more practical and better built, and equally fun to drive which is why I prefer them (and so does most of the car community hence why they tend to be more expensive these days). But find me a toyota with a great engine and transmission, beautiful interior and comfortable but sporty ride and I'll think it's the best car ever! I just haven't driven one yet.
Putting price aside, the integra IS better than the celica, the accord IS better than the camry, the S2000 IS better than the MR-S and so on... I think my thoughts are justified. Now ofc when you bring price into it that changes things, but with these comparisons we're only looking at the cars.
@@KiwiCarLife What about the Toyota ARISTO twinTurbo ? Order Toyota chaser 1jz? Those are proper turbo charge 4 doors that your Accord could not dream of bearing ? Caldina GT4 ? The MR2 turbo is definitely better than the S2000. Toyota has a much larger pro folio than Honda and make better cars than Honda. Celica GT4 turbo ? What honda is better then that ? You’re really over selling your family sedan last time I checked sports cars or about driving not comfort.
How about you test your record against the Lexus ISF V8 ?
@@KiwiCarLife test your four-door against a proper Toyota four-door like a TwinTurbo Toyota ARISTO and stop with the bullshit the Toyota aristo is built five times better than your accord makes more power and proper rear wheel drive. Find a six speed manual Toyota chaser one Jay Z I would have would love to see you say you’re a accord is better than that
@@KiwiCarLife So what if they’re single purpose of vehicles isn’t a Bugatti a single purpose vehicle or Ferrari does that make them less of a thing ? If you’re a fan boy for your accord no problem you can love it but best believe people are gonna call you out on your bullshit
@@KiwiCarLife I don’t hide behind my name I can change my username to honda for life if I felt like it but the fact still remains test your four-door sedan against a proper Toyota performance four-door sedan make a video testing against 1jz Toyota chaser or a TwinTurbo Toyota ARISTO those are four-door performance Toyota sedans you’re making these videos as if your Honda is better than all Toyota ‘s when it’s not Toyota makes faster and more powerful sedans then Honda. This MR2 with its mid engine set up is a much better handling and track car then your a accord this is basically a small NSX it’s supposed to be about driving fell not comfort how can it be a knock against the car that’s not designed for a specific thing in the first place ? Literally no one cares that these cars have more plastic on the interiors these cars are being bought for the way that they drive and how they look there are two different people buying these cars and your Honda Accord
KiwiCarComfort???
U know it!
@@KiwiCarLife Great vids 👌👌 even if I dont agree with how comfortable you need your car😂
900kg car?
Yeah about that
The accord is such a boring car to look at nothing U do to it will make it nice
I would disagree but we are all different and entitled to an opinion.
U think im goint to let go my honda DC5 because theres not too much space oh because i cant fit anything inside..😭🤣🤣💀 buddy That's y u have more then one car the dc5 is too have fun feel the power not to put shitt in the back or anything lol.. thats a classic car..
Yes, although the DC5 is very practical compared to most small coupes
Say whaaat? 😮
Hah
Whaaaaat!
I have 1998 integra type r usdm and i dont even let my kidz get close to it or play around it.. i doo give them a ride once a while.. but nott too much when they grow up they'll know the value and what this car really ment to their pops..💯💯💯♥️
Nice man, hold onto it!
And to think, the ONLY reason why Toyota didn’t put the 2ZZ in the MR-2 from factory is because they didn’t want to step on Lotus’ foot 🤦🏾♂️
Also, I miss my TSX (US). The 08 TSX in the US only revved to 7,600 rpm’s though. Still had the classic I-Vtec lift which was nice, but it only lasted for 1,600 rpm’s which was kinda dumb.
Yeah need a reflash to really make the most of the vtec in the accord/tsx
And true... MRS could have been so much more...
K24 is waaaaaay better than 2zz shity engine
Agree haha
lit'rally lit'rally gokart kaah KAAH lir'rillie
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