Wow this was really informative. Thanks for posting this. As a private pilot enthusiast, I guess I'll never get to live out that independence day scene where the crop dusters got fighter training.
I would like to ask you a question. Back in 1987 I tried to join the Air Force as soon as I got out from high school which I went to the AF recruiter, and the guy told me that I could not join the Air Force because I'm not an US citizen which pissed me off at that time. He pointed his finger to next door told me why don't you try the Army they would accept you, so madly I gave up the military future from there. I only want to be a pilot fighter, settle for nothing less. My question is was it true that you have to be a US citizen to be in the military?
The USAF recruiter likely declined you because you need a security clearance for most jobs in the USAF and being a non-citizen means you won't be able to get one.
Hi! Is it easier to become a fighter pilot if I serve as a reservist either in the Air Force or Air National Guard? I am 27 now & by the time I finish my bachelor’s, I will be 29. Is it a good idea to join the air force reserve now as a non-officer reservist or finish my bachelor’s and then apply to join as a pilot? Thank you!
2:00 I don't understand what you mean that most pilots will go on to fly the T1 and others who have the ability to become fighter pilots will go on to fly the T 38 and I can't find anything online about this, what does it take and what are they looking for to actually be picked to become a pilot of a fighter? I think that's what everyone watching this video wants to know,.
tommyfromthearmy your grading within training determines whether you specialize with jet aircraft, tilt rotor or rotary wing. Think of it like getting into uni with high school being the courses described in the video.
TFTA: "others who have the ability to become fighter pilots will go on to fly the T 38" Hasard did not tell the full story here. The USAF has this one special Pilot Training Base. Sheppard AFB. For the longest time, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE graduating from that base got assigned to heavies. Graduate at the dead bottom of your class? Congrats, you're going to fighters. So this was the philosophy of the USAF for many decades. If you graduate from UPT, and you got awarded those silver wings, then this carried the clear message that you had the skill to fly any aircraft. It was a philosophy that the USAF upheld from its very inception in the 1940s all the way up through the mid-90s. That's when they started Specialized UPT. So what changed to now where we're hearing this assertion that you have to have some kind of special ability in order to become a fighter pilot? It's apparent to me that the quality of people getting accepted into UPT has not changed significantly. So the only thing that has changed is this perception. Anyone who feels that a UPT student is not good enough to fly the T-38 has simply just forgotten that EVERYONE used to be required to fly the T-38. It's not that difficult. At least, not as hard as Justin presents it as being. Anyone who knows about Sheppard should know that a student who graduates Dead Last can go on to a successful career flying fighters.
@@tommyc1951, there is this story ...maybe from the late 70s or early 80s, where SAC got sick and tired of getting pilots who had finished in the bottom of their classes, so, maybe it was by order of CinC SAC, or maybe someone else... they swooped in on these sets of classes and sent the top grads to bombers and tankers! Maybe one of the old heads here can confirm this story. I've never doubted it myself. I can totally seeing that happening. But of course, the problem is that once the studs learn what you're doing, it totally shoots their motivation to do their best. So there's no way that this lasted very long.
Im 28 and never stepped foot in college, what would be the best route? ROTC at an accredited college mastering in sciences? Then OTS and apply for pilot training ? Within a 4 1/2 year span before i hit 33?
Great videos Brother ! Very informative. I’m 29 with a 4 year degree and thinking about taking the leap. I know I’m ahead of my self in asking this but what’s the earliest one can become a test pilot in this schedule and can you do a video on becoming a test pilot. Also is gaining a masters degree in physics or engineering possible during this process ?
What I've learned from all kinds of sources is that a test pilot is the best of the best pilot, so it's a long path of demonstrating your skills. Personally, if it were me I'd rather be in combat missions or training missions if we were at peace, which is what you will hope.
I'm here trying to find out how they train other countries pilots . If they've flown in other jets but now retraining for US / NATO fighter jets . Anyone here done this been involved in this ?
I know there is an alternative to UPT (undergraduate pilot training) which is ENJJPT (euro-nato joint jet pilot training) where they focus on only the fighter track and include pilots from other NATO countries
WOW,THESE IS AN AMAZING PROFESSION,ONLY FOR REAL WINERS,I THINK, BECAUSE TRUTHFULLY IT SEEMS THAT YOU REQUIRED,NOT ONLY BRAVE, HOWEVER, STRUCTURE, DISCIPLINE AND PRACTICE,AND DON'T FORGETTING ABOUT GOD IN ANY TIME,MY RESPECT,FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT MAKE IT ALL THE WAY, I'M IMPRESSED TO KNOW, AND KNOW THAT,I ONLY BE ABLE IN THESE LIFE TO SEE THE AMAZING MECHANIC BIRDS,THAT ARE CONTROLED BY AMAZING PEOPLE, GOOD GOD BLESS THEM ALL...🕊️
You know being a navy pilot, um aviator, seems like it would be something people would want do to push their chest out, but it seems like there's lots of danger just in landing your plane and you're away from home and your family. As far as landing on a carrier, it seems like the thing you need is good eye-hand coordination. It's like football. You need to keep your eye on the ball.
@@paulmicheldenverco1, There's a critical factor which no one talks about when it comes to the reason why the Navy does not call their pilots 'pilots'. When you're on a boat, there is a very specific job done by a person who is called a pilot. And it has absolutely nothing to do with flying. It is a highly skilled position. And while the pilot of an aircraft has the lives of the people on that one plane in their hands, the pilot of a ship has the lives of absolutely everyone onboard their vessel in their hands. So in the Navy, it's not even a coin toss. There is one pilot who is far more important than anyone else who might otherwise be referred to as a 'pilot'. Now there are probably MANY fighter pilots in the Navy who are well aware of this. Yet they go with the story you've presented here. Because it's much easier on their egos. Imagine a fighter pilot in the Navy having the humility to tell it to you straight: "The reason we're not called 'pilots' is because we're nowhere near as important as the pilot controlling the entire ship." And the Navy sees fit that these folks walk around with a _constant reminder_ of this fact, because right there on every set of their wings, they've put this prominent freakin ANCHOR. Bound by a rope, no less. That is the US Navy's message to every single one of their fliers: "You will never be more important than the ship you fly off of." upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Naval_Aviator_Badge.jpg/1000px-Naval_Aviator_Badge.jpg And the NFOs have it even worse. They're pinned with this different set of wings which has TWO anchors. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Navalflightoff.jpeg If it ever comes down to choosing between the aircraft or the ship, the Navy considers their planes absolutely DISPOSABLE. So here's the honest version of Top Gun: Maverick: "In the Navy, we're called Aviators." Charlie: "Why is that?" Mav: "Because we're disposable." (Actually, if Charlie had been honest, she would have been up front about knowing all this already.)
@@RVCAXD why would you want to? After the high wears off your stuck in the military and the way do things,and it becomes a job just like everything else but you can't just quit when you want to..The government should offer rides to citizens if they choose to do so ,so that we can see where our tax dollars are going towards..War is just dumb and costly and will keep ruining this country if they keep with the nonsense,Iraq and Afghanistan were senseless and no point,too many people die for absolutely nothing...
Thanks! Got a while behind me before I can even join.. plus I want to go to USAFA, so that adds 4 years.
Wow this was really informative. Thanks for posting this.
As a private pilot enthusiast, I guess I'll never get to live out that independence day scene where the crop dusters got fighter training.
Nice to see David Hackworth in the background.
I would like to ask you a question. Back in 1987 I tried to join the Air Force as soon as I got out from high school which I went to the AF recruiter, and the guy told me that I could not join the Air Force because I'm not an US citizen which pissed me off at that time. He pointed his finger to next door told me why don't you try the Army they would accept you, so madly I gave up the military future from there. I only want to be a pilot fighter, settle for nothing less. My question is was it true that you have to be a US citizen to be in the military?
You have to have a green card and live in the US
The USAF recruiter likely declined you because you need a security clearance for most jobs in the USAF and being a non-citizen means you won't be able to get one.
In the 9 month period after being selected for your model is that taking place at your unit squadron or another base?
Hi!
Is it easier to become a fighter pilot if I serve as a reservist either in the Air Force or Air National Guard? I am 27 now & by the time I finish my bachelor’s, I will be 29. Is it a good idea to join the air force reserve now as a non-officer reservist or finish my bachelor’s and then apply to join as a pilot?
Thank you!
i’m in my first year of college, should i switch to active duty and go four years in military school?
How can I make my package competitive for OTS and secure a fighter spot? Currently enlisted AMN
2:00 I don't understand what you mean that most pilots will go on to fly the T1 and others who have the ability to become fighter pilots will go on to fly the T 38 and I can't find anything online about this, what does it take and what are they looking for to actually be picked to become a pilot of a fighter? I think that's what everyone watching this video wants to know,.
tommyfromthearmy your grading within training determines whether you specialize with jet aircraft, tilt rotor or rotary wing. Think of it like getting into uni with high school being the courses described in the video.
Common sense, mostly, and people that aren't going to make a 100 million dollar jet a smoking hole in the ground...Even fighter jets have turbo lag..
TFTA: "others who have the ability to become fighter pilots will go on to fly the T 38"
Hasard did not tell the full story here. The USAF has this one special Pilot Training Base. Sheppard AFB. For the longest time, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE graduating from that base got assigned to heavies. Graduate at the dead bottom of your class? Congrats, you're going to fighters.
So this was the philosophy of the USAF for many decades. If you graduate from UPT, and you got awarded those silver wings, then this carried the clear message that you had the skill to fly any aircraft. It was a philosophy that the USAF upheld from its very inception in the 1940s all the way up through the mid-90s. That's when they started Specialized UPT.
So what changed to now where we're hearing this assertion that you have to have some kind of special ability in order to become a fighter pilot? It's apparent to me that the quality of people getting accepted into UPT has not changed significantly. So the only thing that has changed is this perception.
Anyone who feels that a UPT student is not good enough to fly the T-38 has simply just forgotten that EVERYONE used to be required to fly the T-38. It's not that difficult. At least, not as hard as Justin presents it as being.
Anyone who knows about Sheppard should know that a student who graduates Dead Last can go on to a successful career flying fighters.
@@dahawk8574 interesting. I want to fly fighters and never really understood how your selected to the fighter or heavy course.
@@tommyc1951, there is this story ...maybe from the late 70s or early 80s, where SAC got sick and tired of getting pilots who had finished in the bottom of their classes, so, maybe it was by order of CinC SAC, or maybe someone else... they swooped in on these sets of classes and sent the top grads to bombers and tankers!
Maybe one of the old heads here can confirm this story. I've never doubted it myself. I can totally seeing that happening. But of course, the problem is that once the studs learn what you're doing, it totally shoots their motivation to do their best. So there's no way that this lasted very long.
Im 28 and never stepped foot in college, what would be the best route? ROTC at an accredited college mastering in sciences? Then OTS and apply for pilot training ? Within a 4 1/2 year span before i hit 33?
Great videos Brother ! Very informative. I’m 29 with a 4 year degree and thinking about taking the leap. I know I’m ahead of my self in asking this but what’s the earliest one can become a test pilot in this schedule and can you do a video on becoming a test pilot. Also is gaining a masters degree in physics or engineering possible during this process ?
What I've learned from all kinds of sources is that a test pilot is the best of the best pilot, so it's a long path of demonstrating your skills. Personally, if it were me I'd rather be in combat missions or training missions if we were at peace, which is what you will hope.
Have you become a pilot yet?😁
I completed my bachelor in computer engineering from Nepal my wife is us citizen may I eligible for pilot ?
I'm here trying to find out how they train other countries pilots . If they've flown in other jets but now retraining for US / NATO fighter jets . Anyone here done this been involved in this ?
I know there is an alternative to UPT (undergraduate pilot training) which is ENJJPT (euro-nato joint jet pilot training) where they focus on only the fighter track and include pilots from other NATO countries
@@zanemoeller1931 like I said, any idea how long to retrain in other jets?
WOW,THESE IS AN AMAZING PROFESSION,ONLY FOR REAL WINERS,I THINK, BECAUSE TRUTHFULLY IT SEEMS THAT YOU REQUIRED,NOT ONLY BRAVE, HOWEVER, STRUCTURE, DISCIPLINE AND PRACTICE,AND DON'T FORGETTING ABOUT GOD IN ANY TIME,MY RESPECT,FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT MAKE IT ALL THE WAY, I'M IMPRESSED TO KNOW, AND KNOW THAT,I ONLY BE ABLE IN THESE LIFE TO SEE THE AMAZING MECHANIC BIRDS,THAT ARE CONTROLED BY AMAZING PEOPLE, GOOD GOD BLESS THEM ALL...🕊️
In my next life, I want to be a pilot for I’m too old now )-;
Not how it works
always wanted to be a pilot. looks like i won't get to even fly a kite.
20 years hell no
Cool
Do you need to be a US citizen?
Yes
When you see the Navy pilots do you have bar fights when they say smugly, "We're not pilots, we're naval aviators"? ;)
You know being a navy pilot, um aviator, seems like it would be something people would want do to push their chest out, but it seems like there's lots of danger just in landing your plane and you're away from home and your family. As far as landing on a carrier, it seems like the thing you need is good eye-hand coordination. It's like football. You need to keep your eye on the ball.
@@paulmicheldenverco1,
There's a critical factor which no one talks about when it comes to the reason why the Navy does not call their pilots 'pilots'. When you're on a boat, there is a very specific job done by a person who is called a pilot. And it has absolutely nothing to do with flying. It is a highly skilled position. And while the pilot of an aircraft has the lives of the people on that one plane in their hands, the pilot of a ship has the lives of absolutely everyone onboard their vessel in their hands. So in the Navy, it's not even a coin toss. There is one pilot who is far more important than anyone else who might otherwise be referred to as a 'pilot'.
Now there are probably MANY fighter pilots in the Navy who are well aware of this. Yet they go with the story you've presented here. Because it's much easier on their egos. Imagine a fighter pilot in the Navy having the humility to tell it to you straight:
"The reason we're not called 'pilots' is because we're nowhere near as important as the pilot controlling the entire ship."
And the Navy sees fit that these folks walk around with a _constant reminder_ of this fact, because right there on every set of their wings, they've put this prominent freakin ANCHOR. Bound by a rope, no less. That is the US Navy's message to every single one of their fliers:
"You will never be more important than the ship you fly off of."
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Naval_Aviator_Badge.jpg/1000px-Naval_Aviator_Badge.jpg
And the NFOs have it even worse. They're pinned with this different set of wings which has TWO anchors.
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Navalflightoff.jpeg
If it ever comes down to choosing between the aircraft or the ship, the Navy considers their planes absolutely DISPOSABLE. So here's the honest version of Top Gun:
Maverick: "In the Navy, we're called Aviators."
Charlie: "Why is that?"
Mav: "Because we're disposable."
(Actually, if Charlie had been honest, she would have been up front about knowing all this already.)
4-6 weeks probably,jets are among the easiest aircraft to fly..
Can a 29 year old still become a fighter pilot?
@@RVCAXD why would you want to? After the high wears off your stuck in the military and the way do things,and it becomes a job just like everything else but you can't just quit when you want to..The government should offer rides to citizens if they choose to do so ,so that we can see where our tax dollars are going towards..War is just dumb and costly and will keep ruining this country if they keep with the nonsense,Iraq and Afghanistan were senseless and no point,too many people die for absolutely nothing...
@@jamesholt7340 good point