Flying Fighters in the Air Force Reserve/Guard - Process, Pay, etc. Explained
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2019
- In today's episode of Monday's with Mover, I explain how flying in the Air Reserve Component works including how you get paid, whether or not you deploy, and how it compares to the active duty component.
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Good information for aspiring pilots.
You are SO motivated! A fulltime job as a 737 pilot, flying for the reserves, an author AND a UA-cam channel!! Amazing 🙂
he’s a cop in some regard too right? pretty amazing that he has the time to be so helpful.
I bet he is not married
@@lukeyoung4000 That makes him a smarter man.
@@alisakran7063 Yeah cause he has more money😂
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Thanks for the video, Sir.
Just wanted to say the Sean Baxter story in origins was amazing man, it hit hard. Good writing, looking forward to getting more
Mover, It is the same as I remember from my many years as an AGR. Wow, there are some new acronyms in your movie but many old ones still remain. My compliments on your explanation of the Guard and Reserve, I doubt I could have ever done as well as you without causing confusion. I would have needed a thought out script to do it. In my day, (early 1980's) there was no continuous orders to cover the gaps between schools. My peer group and our complaining is why the rules were changed to keep us paid and maintain health care for our families. I am glad to see that problem has been ironed out. Awesome movie! Ross
Well done!! As an AGR (Army) with some Traditional time before I went AGR, this is a great instructional tool for anyone wanting info on the Guard. Air Guard and Army Guard are very similiar as far as duty time requirements and training. I retired in 2017 with a 31 year AGR retirement as an E9. Same retirement as any Active Duty E9. Thanks for the info!!
This video was exactly what I wanted in terms of what I was hoping you would do. I am proud to say I am rushing the 122nd Fighter Squadron this weekend! And I’m excited to have a future in the Air National Guard!
122nd in Fort Wayne, Indiana Flying A-10s? I was just there! I wish you the best of luck!
@@Spartan136 no I mean the 122nd Fighter Squadron from the 159th Fighter Wing, they are F-15C's he was talking about them being on standby :)
@@Spartan136 thanks for the good wishes :)
@@astronikolai6910
Oh, ok. F-15s are badass too.
You got this!
@@Spartan136 Thanks :)
Thank you for making this vid, super useful stuff. Spent hour's mindlessly searching online with no luck before I found this vid.
Thank you for your service, Sir and thank you for your vids!
As a former Enlisted Army Reservist (regular ground pounder unit, though we were Airborne, so Aviation adjacent, just the cargo in the back who falls out occasionally ;) and now looking at going Army National Guard Aviation (WOCS and all that), so much of this sounds very familiar!
A fiction thriller about a mercenary fighter pilot? Awesome! Will pick up fini flight when it’s out. Looking forward to it!
Thank you so much for the honesty.
Thank you for the great video. Could you do one video about qualifications like: how many there are, the requirements for them, and the training. Thank you.
Tuesday morning here. Fun UA-cam vid of the week.
I was stationed at Carswell, it's an excellent one. =)
And I thought trying to explain to people how my days off worked when I was a cop was complicated!
Thank you for this information, Mover. This is the kind of route I'm planning on taking. I'm currently enlisted in the ANG (but waiting for a Basic/Tech School date for Command and Control) where I plan to 1) get to know the IPs here; as I will be right behind them in regards to the "tip of the spear" that they are considered here, and 2) get my last year and a half of school paid for.
I have a leg up being as my dad flew F-15s here as an IP, but I still have a LOT of work to do, and I like to go about this knowing that this is my own journey and my dad being an IP doesn't mean jack for me becoming a fighter pilot.
I hope to have good news here in a couple years, and I'll be watching your extremely informative videos in the meantime to help me through my journey to becoming a fighter pilot!
I'm going to tell you right now that you better take every leg up you can get in the NG/Reserves because if you don't you can easily be left behind! I spent 8 yrs in the US army and 3 in the ARNG. One of my high school friends is a pilot in the ANG and he used his dad as a leg up. There is NOTHING wrong with having a leg up in this world! All you need to do is put in the work that is necessary.
@@mississippirebel1409 Yup, I'm using everything I can to get a leg up! Going for a competitive degree (Mechanical Engineering) with a high GPA (3.75 after 3 years of college), working in the ANG in Command And Control Battle Management Operations where I'll talk with the fighter pilots and learn lingo, combat maneuvers, etc. I'll also use my GI bill to hopefully get a Private Pilot License so I can get civilian flight hours!
Any other legs up I can get, I will do my best to achieve!
@@aaronadkisson2726 Hey man I need a update did you make it??
This video was EXTREMELY helpful man. :D
Great video!
Very helpful video! Thanks
Amazing info!
Sounds like a sweet deal. Especially for ex-active duty pilots who transition to airlines, so they can still get their high speed fix now and then.
Love this video. Answered a ton of questions for me. I have another though. Approximately how many hours do you actually spend in a classroom setting inside vs outside flying during flight training after OTS for Air Guard?
The reserves are doing TDART right now which is basically the same as baby ART.
QUESTION(s):
1) I'm going to Navy OCS (then Pensacola for flight API) soon. When is the best time for me and my wife to start a family during my officer/flight career. Any advice on family life for new dad?
2) What percent divorce rate have you seen in your flight area?
3) What can I do to get better chance at fighter vs other platform. (any simulators, math courses, etc I can prep with?)
4) I have a BA and MA. Want my PhD. A Navy Commander said that going back to school before making 04 is career suicide. Though he retired about 10 years ago. What do you recommend is a good time to go back to school (on the military's dime while still in service and/or at Navy Postgrad school)?
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I like the background.
Been reading the Spectre series of books and have been addicted. I am about half way through book 8 and can't wait for Fini flight to drop. I also even got the prequel of the spectre series. I really hope that book 8 isn't the end of it though. I also hope one day the series get's turned into a movie series. I also discovered the Alex Sheppard books are a spin off of the Spectre books. Keep up the great work man. You got a reader out of me. Oh I do have a question though; is their a way to email you the question about the main character of Spectre?
Glad you enjoyed it! You can email me through my website - www.cwlemoine.com
What is the current policy on corrective lenses? Here is my story that ended before it began: I joined the AF in 1986 as enlisted. While active, I saw and spoke with many pilots who wore glasses and they all said it is possible to get waivers for glasses. After 2.5 years, I switched to the AF Reserves and went to college and got an engineering degree (I was told to become a pilot they like to see the degrees that includes a lot of math). When I neared graduation, I took the officer test, got letters of recommendation, and wrote essays explaining why I want to be a pilot. After a few selection boards, I was given a pilot slot for Active Duty (Yeah!). I was told I just need to go get my physical. But wait - If I go get my physical, I will be disqualified because of my glasses. How do I get a waiver? At my reserve base, I spoke with my commander, base commander, chief pilot, chief medical officer and anyone else that would listen. My 7 years of active/reserve time meant nothing. I was told the only way a new pilot gets a waiver is if they go through the AF Academy. Very disappointing. At the time, the policy was if you got corrective surgery, you were immediately disqualified. I've heard it is the opposite now. Would love to hear what the policy is currently.
Michael Vetter eye sight no more than 20/200 corrected to 20/20. I just got my FC1 last year and that was the reg.
You're correct that the corrective surgery policy is the opposite now, my eyes were worse than 20/200 so LASIK was required for me to be pilot eligible.
Im going to try and get a Pilots Liscense go to flight school first and see my luck in the guard, if I by gods luck and chance i do become a fighter pilot, I will be thanking you
Hey to start off I wanted to say thanks for taking the time to make these videos it helps a lot with making informed decisions on the route I want to go with. I did have a clarifying question though, 2:15 you said the navy reserve doesn’t take pilots off the street does that also apply to ANG? Can a college grad apply to be a fighter for the ANG without Type rating)
Only applies to Navy Reserve. Guard and AF Reserve do boards for unrated applicants (off the street)
So if you go and pick a fighter prior to UPT, you're essentially committing to making fighter grades in pilot training, right? In your experience, how often to people get fighter slots at guard/reserve units and then fail to make the grades?
So if I’m hearing this correctly, in essence you apply to join different squadrons which will send you to flight school so you can fly their aircraft? Does flight school work the same way as active duty? I think I’m a little confused
Good info for sure ! Very anal-o-gous (spell checker version) at the end for pursuing a new job ie.( Gaining new skills- resume building) finding a pathway even if it's not a career.
Thanks for your continued service !
Should you do ROTC in college and then join the national guard and try to become a pilot?
I plan on becoming a Physician Assistant first then become a ANG F-16 pilot at Lackland AFB and doing both. Medical personal have special options for this.
I have the same goal as you, F-16 in Texas. Currently active duty army, Blackhawk mechanic, hoping to ETS and the go to San Antonio to enlist in the ANG. Eventually will go for the UPT program.
@@edwardcornejo4752 I'm only in high school, so I still have time. If not that I would love to become a 1a9x1, (Special Missions Aviator) those guys work on the pave hawk's with the PJ'S. They are the door gunners and engineers. Put becoming a pilot is my main goal after becoming doctor either at Lackland or a reservist at NASJRB Fort Worth.
Dude me too! I want to be a PA and a pilot. How are things going so far? Where are you at with your plans.
I would like to get my private pilots license then go into the Air Force after my bachelors degree so will having that PPL help me get into flight training?
Hey Mover! I've always wondered, how old were you when you got your commission and started your undergraduate flight training?
What happens to a pilot if they crash? if it's not there fault like a hydraulic issue or something unpreventable, do they have to go in a time period where they can't fly or do they just go back to flying I think I know the answer but I just want to specifics thanks Mr. Lemoine
Does having a private pilot's license help a great deal? I'm 25 and have a Pharm D degree that I already have debt sunk into so I'm wondering if it would be worth it to pay more to get that PPL or if I should just give rushing a shot
Hey Mover! I'm currently an AWO aboard the AWACS (Active Duty) and I'm looking to cross train to pilot once I become eligible. Can I still apply to a UPT spot at a guard unit even if i have remaining active duty time? Should i apply to cross train as active duty or would my chances be higher if I went straight to a guard unit for hire? Thanks!
If re-enlistment bonuses are offered are they comparable to what active-duty guys get?
I am currently a college student. I am planning on graduating and then joining the air national guard. What should I be doing in college to prepare for myself for the ANG. If I fly fighters, how does moving to the airlines work?? Will flying for the air guard qualify me for the airlines or will I have to do other civilian training?? I am still trying to understand how everything works. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the INFO :)
Do I just go to a recruiter and ask them straight up I want to be a fighter pilot or is there more to it like do I have to get my bachelors degree first before I tell the recruiter? Because I’m 17 and I want to be a fighter pilot in the Air Force.
This is excellent information; thank you for the video. Can I be a fighter pilot on traditional guard status and go through a full-time in-person MBA program?
Yes. But preferably co located with your unit.
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Hi
I am a full time college student and I live in Brooklyn, NY. Can I get into the Air Force or National guard as a part time so that I can become a fightet pilot?
Thank you!
does anyone know how you can find out when the boards happen or when there's a flight slot open in the squadron. I might sound like an idiot right now but I could really use some help.
You are supposed to call them, look up the unit and find their number.
How do I join ANG as fighter pilot?
I think I've probably recovered a couple 93rd planes.
Are there age restrictions for flying Guard?
Were you part of the 93rd Fighter Squadron?
How does applying to other ANG bases work?
Can somebody who has a full time job in engineering for a big tech company with 12 years experience.. who is graduating soon become a fighter pilot and be part time in Air Force while maintaining civilian Job?
Or to even become a pilot in the guard?
Can you live on base if you are AGR and you choose to?
Looking for some advise. Ill try to keep the story quick! I'm 25 (almost 26) I graduated form University 2 years ago and have my bachelors degree in business. Iv been working construction management for the past 2 years. Iv always had an interest in the the military and a larger interest in planes. Becoming a pilot never crossed my mind I think it seemed unachievable as I never knew anyone who was a pilot. As I wake up ever morning unmotivated and think about my future, it makes me want to do something more prestigious with my life! Realistically is it to late for me to become a pilot? If its not to late what's my best path? I live 15minute from Westover air reserve base I believe they fly the C-5 which is fine I don't necessarily want to fly a fighter I would be okay flying a heavy. Before getting in contact with them should I get my private pilot license? Thanks - Joe
I’m in a similar position it would be interesting to hear about your process. My only hesitation is the active duty 10 year commitment but it seems like there might be a way around this
i'm a 14 year old and i plan to fly f-16s in my hometown I'm a staff sergeant in civil air patrol which is highly recognized by the airforce and i plan to get a pilots license when I'm 16-17 but i need glasses, will this affect anything and could i get a waiver signed easily? and should I go to the air force academy or ofc?
Is better to enlist in the reserve/guard first then apply for a pilot slot or try to apply off the street ?
Either is a good option. Off the street is the most direct and quickest if your app is strong.
I am planning on joing the ANG about 4 hrs from me bc the base near my home won't take me as an officer off of the street. I want to fly. If i am going to have to do AGR(as you said) and fly full time, this may pose a problem bc now i will have to be away from my family sp often. Is there any option for me to transfer back closer to home? What would you recommend?
I was wondering this too. Unless I misheard, he made it sound like your first few years after flight school you have, essentially, active duty orders to your unit for a few years whether you want them or not? I was curious about this as well because I’m looking at units that are out of state for me. Any insight?
Anyone have info on the difficulty of getting on AGR status after seasoning in the current landscape? I'd like to go the guard route in order to pick my airframe but I'd also like to stay in the active duty lifestyle with the benefits.
Depends on the unit.
@@CWLemoine makes sense, appreciate all the content sir. Really helpful
Hello, are you still in the reserve/guard?
To be clear, in the Air Force Reserve pilot selection process, you are tested for your Flying Class 1 medical before going to OTS, correct? In other words, do I run the risk of going to OTS and then being told I'm not medically qualified, or does the medical stuff happen first?
Medical happens first.
@@CWLemoine Thank you! Also Keep up the great work, your videos are awesome!
First. Happy Monday!
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If after seasoning a pilot transfer to another unity. For example: from a F15 unity to a F35 unity. they will have to do 2 to 3 years of seasoning again, after the B course?
It depends. Right now F35 requires 3 years. Other aircraft are more like 90 days if you’re experienced
@@CWLemoine wow. Even experienced pilots need 3 years, or just new pilots? I saw on the vermont ang site that the people hired by them would go for upt, and them do the seasoning before becoming part time reservist, and the whole process would take approximately 4 years.
@@lucasbarcellos8356 In the Air Force reserve, experienced pilots transitioning from other airframes get 3 years. Why would you want to keep switching airframes so early in your career?
@@CWLemoine I was just wondering how much trainning someone goes through when they change aircrafts, and in the next decades many pilots will go to the F-35. Thank you for answering my questions.
I know I a little late to the video, I’m currently AD enlisted and interested in commissioning into guard as a helicopter pilot. I heard a rumor that AGR is losing there contract or something and it’s not gonna be a thing anymore. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I’d only be interested in doing AGR 😬
There is no contract. Some bases have HH-60s. Some do not. Find the guard unit that has it.
What if you’re already a pilot going into it? I’m a sophomore at UND
I'm not sure what you're asking...
So can i be a fulltime fighter pilot for the gaurd?
Yes.
I thought you said you didn't have to go to OTS if you get hired in a unit in the reserves while doing ROTC.
Correct. ROTC and OTS are both commissioning sources.
@@CWLemoine Oh, okay I fully understand now. Thank you!
So how many hours, minimum and maximum, will an established reserve pilot spend actually flying per month or year? I would hope most reserve pilots are not doing it for the money.
The Air Force does not quantify a minimum or maximum amount of hours. The Ready Aircrew Program (RAP) only specifies number of sorties per month with a three month lookback. That number varies by airframe and experience level.
Are you able to become a fighter pilot in the airforce with LASIK surgery?
Yes I've had LASIK myself and am about to graduate from UPT. When I went to my flight physical the eye doc checked out my eyes to make sure the LASIK scar looked good but that's it
cuberjawa nice!! Thanks for letting me know
@@theskaterdude1499 no problem, good luck! Just make sure that you're also communicating with your AF leadership at the time (for me it was my ROTC cadre)
Currently recovering from PRK/LASIK to become Pilot Qualified. Going into 3rd year of ROTC.
Is it better to wear corrective lenses than get surgery? I'm just worried about the risk factor because I've been told my sight isn't bad enough to qualify for surgery (-0.75 and -0.5)
Hey Mover do you know about the path to the reserves/guard from AFROTC?
Very rare. It happens but it’s not common these days as far as I know.
@@CWLemoine thanks for your response! Is that due to lack of opportunity or is it because most choose active duty from AFROTC?
@@definitelynottigerwhitten5865 AFROTC is a commissioning source for Active Duty. Palace Acquire from there is exceedingly rare. You’d need a unit to take you and active duty to sign off on it.
How many hours a pilot fly per drill period on average?
It depends
Drill weekend? At my base they rarely fly the F'16's but I would assume they might fly for maximum 6 hours.
With the drastic need for pilots, are Air Force units to the point of giving slots to "old" guys - ie 34? Had my licenses in high school but couldnt get an asthma waiver in 2004 (cleared at 13 yrs 4 months) - so ended up not joining. Decent professional resume, 10 years as a government contractor investigating fraud.
The pilot shortage is a retention and production problem. There’s no shortage of applicants. With that said, the current rule is age 33 and waivers for qualified applicants have been given for older.
Hi I'm 29 years old I would love to know if I can still become a military pilot I think it's a little late for me. I've lived overseas almost my whole life even got a degree in aerospace engineering again oversees but since I'm still American I would love to serve and better if I can still pursue my dream of flying
32 for the Navy and 33 for the AF.
@@CWLemoine so can I still pursue a pilot career and if so what would you recommend
@ernesto Padilla if you're serious about it then you need to think in terms of what you want to do and how service will fit into your life. If you're ok with going active duty and flying full time then do it. However, ANG and ARF are the perfect way for you to get training and fly, its only a matter of where you live and applying to rush a squadron. If you fit the requirements then look up ANG and AFR squadrons, find one near where you live (or move near one), and call them up and apply, and hurry up and do it before you're 33.
Do you go to ots before you rush a squadron?
Typically no.
I’m almost 23 with no college experience. What’s the best route for me to take to become a USAF fighter pilot?
Get a college degree. ROTC/OTS/Guard
22:00 Pros of the guard
What do you think about consulting services such as bogidope?
Valid option. But the information is out there.
C.W. Lemoine I’ll comment that I used the bogidope interview prep and I credit it as one of the reasons I got hired by a guard fighter squadron.
The question bank is helpful, but what was more valuable was the one on one practice interview.
@@nickchandler5606 that's what I was thinking in reading up on the packages available. I'm a reservist but all of our slots are for IP's so I have no chance as a UPT hire.
Shaun Brown I’d bet they’ll have a UPT board within the next few years.
But don’t rule out applying outside of your home unit! I know moving may not be ideal, but you have to do whatever it takes to get those wings!
I enjoy your videos but it seems like many of your viewers, from their questions, are focused on the secular aspect of becoming a pilot and moving on to airlines or corporate flying.
I live in a community that includes lots of retired Navy pilots (we are close to a NAS) and I've gotten to know several. I once asked one who retired as a Navy Captain how it was to go from flying high performance aircraft to the 737 or A320. He said he didn't join the Navy to do that. He joined to serve his country. So viewers who aspire to fly in the military, bear in mind your primary motivation should be service to country and be prepared to do your job, fight, and do whatever it takes to fulfill the mission. Be honest with yourself because that is why the taxpayers pay you, train you, and equip you. That is all.
I think the idea is, that airlines are a huge employer of former military pilots. That's why even if you want to serve your country and do your national and moral duty, it's still good to have a plan.
I always thought that kind of mumbo jumbo was more of a rifle grunt thing.
the others are missing a bigger point. the felon guy going in to avoid jail, the poor guy going in to get an education, and the career guy using it as a stepping stone all need to remember not to overlook what service really means. before you can get out of the military, you have to actually be in the military first. minus the entire “service to your country” intent, you’ll still be serving your country by definition. and that’s not a decision to be taken lightly if another route better suits you. OP was clearly correct in that your primary concern leading up to and during service should be service to your country, because that literally is what will dictate your life regardless of future plans.
So do you personally train new pilots in the t-38?
I get the impression that he flies as “red air” for students in the F-15 and F-22 FTU to practice intercepts and ACM against him.
@@Stepclimb really?
@@XxS1l3nTxa1Mx
Yes, really. It looks like he was in the 301st FS (AFRC). They (had) T-38As that flew as adversary air against students going through the F-22 B course.
Unfortunately, it looks like the unit is being deactivated.
I don’t believe CJ was ever an IP at a UPT base.
@@Stepclimb oh nice! Why is it being deactivated? That sounds fun
@@XxS1l3nTxa1Mx
The T-38A is very old and getting more expensive to maintain. The USAF is turning more to outside contractors to provide Adversary Air.
These contractors fly a variety of foreign and domestic fighters like the Mirage F-1, MiG-23 and F-16A.
The contractors can provide a wider variety of adversary air and do it cheaper than the USAF.
What happens if the guard unity closes before the 10 year contract?
Find a new unit.
@@CWLemoine So if a unity closes after, lets say 5 years of flying for them. The pilot need to find a new unity to finish the remaining time on his contract?
"Contract" is more of an enlisted term. You have a 10 year commitment to serve in the Guard after UPT. You will have to continue with another unit if yours closes. You can do that as a drill status guardsman anywhere, including non-flying.
@@CWLemoine Thank you.
Is it possible to fly jets if you are over six foot?
Yes
@Rev Run haha
Is it possible to fly jets if I am 400+ pounds?
Is it possible for me to be a fighter pilot if I have ADHD?
Blastm 290 how bad is it?
Are pilots still getting enough hours??? I seem to remember hearing tales (I was a boy at the time) of a/c on the ramp without engines solely to make for good sat pics for the Russians, (this was back in the 70's during the Carter years and oil crisis), and many pilots weren't current due to insufficient funding. Have heard these rumors several other times over the years, was wondering if there was ever any truth to these??? And can you fly as much as you like? Or are your flights strictly structured and hours closely monitored to keep you current and sufficiently trained? Thank you sir for your service and answering our questions :-)
US pilots usually get around 20 hours a month, so no there is definitely no issues.
You don’t need a bachelors degree to pursue this?
Can't deploy in the T-38? I understand they did deploy as fighters to Vietnam. I guess, sadly, that bird is now too old. I know they are about out of the training gig. Dad says it was a well-behaved jet with few bad habits (at least compared to the F-100 or the F4 C Phantom).
T-38 has never deployed in any capacity. It’s a trainer.
Yes. Its combat version was designated the F-5. I'll check with Dad, who is my source on the deployment of a few actual T-38s. He flew the F-100 and F4C Phantom early on in combat and as an IP later in the Talon. Could be my memory is scrambled. I'll update when he gets back to me.
@@laurelinlorefield318 the F-5 is similar to the T-38, but it's a very different aircraft (leading edge flaps, different wing, more fuel, different engines, etc.). The T-38 is a trainer with no weapons systems. The AT-38B had limited capability for weapons systems for IFF, but was never deployed.
@@CWLemoine Well, Dad thinks a few of them were deployed to Danang to train the Vietnam Air Force and maybe some of the Air America guys. (Not actual combat, although I've read some training missions turned into combat missions. Not saying that happened here.) If I find some documentation, I'll pass it along. - Thanks!
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I’ll be happy they let me fly the T-38C with no pay. Cause pilots always land the girls (-;
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