Tbh if they want to create more hype/ confusion in the game all they have to do is just make a secret ending where it's just Nomura just laughing for like 3 seconds and leaves
Ho ho!! And it's gonna be verum rex who starts it. Verum rex will be a black sheep in all final fantasy universes. The true king will emerge as an outcast - living in a universe existing yet not believed to exist. It will unfold to sora that besides the disney worlds there are other worlds that are open and they leak its light warriors to another world which is not supposed to happen (dissidia) so he must seal all gates of final fantasies to end dissidia. But will this get a happy ending or will it mean trapping squall and others inside dissidia as it vanishes? Without the light warriors in their respective worlds, their worlds will be distraught, new enemies will emerge compromising their worlds and no warriors of light to vanquish them. Then sora asks "is this my fault?" Then he turns to the true king as his eyes change to crimson red...
So every loop creates a new series then maybe the title "Final Fantasy" is the Jack's ex boss project to search for the "Final Fantasy", the final perfect world since they love to reset time.
Sounds plausible seeing as you already have alternate Prompto and Iris in your team... it sounds a little bit... chaotic... tho. Or maybe Jack is Nomura's self insert and is determined to kill the chaos in his writing lmao.
I'd rather have 14 do that, they are already pretty damn good at integrating stories and characters from other FF games, even from Square games we will never get (Vagrant Story 2, sigh), so it would be great if the next major storyline after Endwalker is a Dissidia style story that takes us across the FF universe dropping us into locations from those games and teaming us and our 14 characters with characters from the other games (post their own FF stories), that would be quite epic specially it will span several expansions.
I'd thought about that when I played Shadow Bringers, with the first game having been light enough on story that that could be the "first shard" but I don't think that's what they're planning.
there's a lot of things that can go wrong there. There's no way one dev team is able to smoothly continue & integrate characters and develop believable character traits post their own FF stories for every single one. It would be an awesome idea, but no one's gonna accept such a huge burden just for an expansion. Even thinking about e.g., just Lightning or Cloud, for starters, it's already very difficult to write their character post-game DESPITE so much material and so many games we have with them. The fans will never be happy. So better stick to the beautiful XIV world and use their assets and what they already have. Also, I didn't think there would be content post Endwalker. I thought Yoshida was going to move to the mainline games, and that his team was going to port XIV to mobile and the Switch and make an offline version of XIV some day. Never thought about post-Endwalker, tbh.
@@NoctLightCloud They already said that they will spare no expense on making the game the best it could be, and talked about the stuff they will focus on in the next 10 years, so there is at least 8-10 years more of FF14 before we get another online FF game (maybe FF19 or something), so Endwalker isn't the end of the road, it's just the end for the current story and afterwards a new story will start. Also the FF14 team already created adaptions or cameos for characters, summons and bosses from all across the FF games, most recent being Noctis (FF15), then we had Gilgamesh and Yojimbo and the Ultima and Omega weapons, also Lightning made an appearance (FF13), as well as characters like Fran (FF12), and Yasumi Matsuno himself created a raid series that involved many characters and enemies from FF Tactics, so they are quite familiar with the process.
I always figured that every FF verse is just a reflection/refraction of the Crystal from FF9 As in everything is just a different possibility shown through the prism of that one Crystal and that that's why the FF theme is always the Crystal theme
That theory is really interesting to ponder about! That could be a possibility! It kind of feels like we are getting a Dissidia-like game but more action based and more centered towards single player.😁 Always love the uploads NSP!😁🙌🏽
I also think that way, that Origin is gonna connect ALL ff games. (Cause we've literally also had Dissidia and no one was really against Dissidia. And we had XIV.) I think it would be well received if it was a good game like XIV doing that. But fans are gonna find that connecting lame because the game Origin itself is highly likely to be just lame (unfortunately). I am VERY sure that if VIIR was done in an even more sophisticated way (e.g., open areas, overworld, more than just Midgar) that the whisperers would've been much better received. Same for KH3. It's difficult for the masses to seperate an idea/plot from the overall game's reception. Tldr; Yes, everyone's gonna hate this idea.
I honestly wouldn’t mind this theory working out, if given more detail. Having a Dissida-like Action RPG sounds hype as all hell! Although, the more likely case here is that it not only explains the origins of Garland, but the time loop as a whole since the time loop isn’t easy to explain in text. I got hyped for this as well, since FF1 needed some much needed lore expansion outside of Dissidia’s exploration on their Cid & summons being gone. Either way, this game is a Day 1 buy, hands down!
I also have the same theory as you and one of them that all of final fantasy series ending bosses were former agents of lufenians and the avengers/warriors of light are the inhabitants of the new world that they have to train when the lufenians decided to erase their worlds existence, so that they have a sliver of hope to fight for their world and to prove the lufenians that the inhabitants of the new world can take care of themselves and they don't need anymore their guidance to keep the balance of light and darkness. And most of all that to tell the lufenians that they can't use the god card to play/toy the new worlds anymore And my theory is that the lufenians are the real villains of the ff series.
Remember Cosmogenesis in Lightning Returns? The realm that connects all the FF universes? What if they somehow reboot Fabula Nova Crystallis, either through this or via Versus XIII in Kingdom Hearts?
@@awakenow7147 hmm, I thought I read that on the fan wiki page about it but after looking it up again I couldn't find that bit. I must have seen some wrong information.
FNC includes XIII and Type-0, and I think there may be some Etro references in XV from when it was Versus Xiii. Ivalice Alliance isn't connected to it unless I'm wildly mistaken.
Oh no. A theory made for me. Who knows where this will go, but I was getting serious Mobius vibes and the Mobius story deeply follows Origin as well in an FNC way but stays canon to FFX and features oddly consistent FFVII content content in it. And it all revolved around a job changing WoL, Garland, and Sarah… really curious to see where this goes
Side note: I can’t be the only one who thinks Neon, out of the whole party, gives off the AmanoxNomura WoL design vibes more than anyone else. Put all the cast in the classic armor, shield and sword, and then just start pondering.
All you really need to know is that Kazushige Nojima is writing it, it WILL go off the rails in that wonderfully Japanese way and you’ll either be enjoying the ride as I do or not
Presumably with Limp Bizkit in the background as it happens, I guess? Absolutely nothing about SoF creates an expectation for its writing. It has been giving the opposite impression, actually.
This sounds like it could be a reverse Kingdom Hearts (except a full Final Fantasy Multiverse). Part of me does love the idea of FF finally coming together like Dissidia. But in the same token...the unique exclusive stories in each world/realm kinda made it it's own to me. That said, I'm really curious to give it a try none the less.
So even they aren't too sure what the references are for... how surprising. This being a project attempting to connect FFs sounds about as good as Compilation enhancing the original game (just kidding of course, the former is way worse), as even there it doesn't seem too clear what's canon or not, as has been further shown with VIIR, in a sort of "it matters when we want to matter, maybe". The more I hear about this game's possible aspirations, the more I want it to *just* be a heavily modded (and downgraded) Nioh 2, contradicting my own feelings by two layers. Thanks SE.
It is fine as separate stories, but it is the greed of wanting it all connected and having it a mystery to entice people. I would love for FF VII remake to not be connected as in being a sequel etc, but the narrative devices of using fate and time where the blueprint was the OG connect it to the OG regardless of whatever excuse or explanation is used and even if they eventually go down "similar route". Dissdia and such games work when just for fun but if they are supposed to be canon it destroys the worlds it builds itself on just for some form of fan service as it is impossible to juggle every FF games stories without destroying them with mechanics needed to do these crossover games. It is also sad when the developers do as you say, and it seems that lore and such only matters when they want, and it is freely discarded for whatever reason at other times.
01:22 So i look up that Afrika (2008) game and it's apparently a game where you'll run around in vehicle looking up and taking pictures of animals in Africa. And that's it . . . . . really . . . that's it
Nice cameo from 14, heard that to the edge in background. As for this game I will treat it like ff7r: a separate retelling of a story and nothing more. This way it won't hurt the love we have for the originals and still find enjoyment regardless.
Actually, you should think of FF7r it more like a sequel, because that's what it is. The Sephiroth we see in the game, is Sephiroth from after the events of Advent Children. He's come back to change the events of the original FFVII in order to hopefully win this time.
I swear if in Stranger of Paradise Amaurot is like mentioned or something than yeah we could consider it a true origin to all, a world as it looks when whole. A friend and myself think that Tiamat is in something that looks like Allagan or perhaps ancient Ancient, either way it'd be mind blowing. I love the ideas of all FFs being connected together in some form or way. =3
Depends what you mean by connect them, as all ff worlds take place in the same overall universe, with notable characters such as omega and gilgamesh being able to hop between the different worlds at times. And any ff crossover with xiv is literally canon both games if if both get something so in xiv, noct actually visits xiv's world canonically due to the connections.
I kinda love it and kinda hate it, but i think it is possible. Connecting the whole franchise however is going to have MASSIVE implications though just from the FFXIV connection since that is connected to the DrakeNieR universe, NieR specifically being an alternate version of earth. All other crossovers be damned in FFXIV since they of dubious canonicity, that alone will open so many potential theories since that game also involves dimensional travel.
So I’ve always known FFX and FF7 are connected but I recently found out FF12 and FF Tatics take place in the same world with 12 occurring pre Tatics. With all that and FF15 sometimes appearing in FF14 events, I’ve been thinking for awhile about how all these games could exist in a multiverse. With this game saying that by starting the events of FF1, it would literally start the events of all FF games it’s not a bad idea how to explain the multiverse. FF1 SHOULD be what creates this multiverse. The problem is though if Stranger of Paradise isn’t a great game with Mr. Shaddy, this great potential idea will turn out terribly in execution. And if this does that, all the good will FF14 (and to some FF7RE) have brought to the franchise will piss of the FF community and those kinda being brought back to the franchise. FF is on shaky ground with FF14 helping this series for many, so this won’t hurt FF14, but this could hurt all the good 14 has done to the name of FF.
Actually FFX and FFVII are not connected everyone believe that bc of the Shinra theory and because the producer or director I don't know whatever made a joke about it. It's clearly not the same world not the same history not the same races nothing
noticed that as soon as shiva and ifirt wee together like how ff15 said they werer a long time ag, also chaos advent, and advent children... tell me its not onnected anymore
I mean knowing how nomura gets down, the main character is prolly the heart of sora who traveled to this universe in order to find chaos because chaos is a clone of garlond who was the vessel for sephiroth who dhdurkfovjfnfkosodb jdhrhf hdhfj …….(3 days later) and so that brings us to how final fantasy origins is the origin to the series but we still dont know who the main character really is just yet.
So guys, i consider myself to be a massive FF fan, but I have to admit, my love for the franchise started from FF7 onward. But I’ve read the premises for every previous FF but there are a lot of gaps in my knowledge of the series before 7…So please forgive me if this is a stupid question… The antagonists name in the very first FF is Garland right?…so is stranger of paradise about how Jack Garland becomes the antagonist of the first game? Sort of like a prequel to the original FF? This being the case, it would be cool if Jack is trying to kill chaos in order to stop the time loop The Night Sky Prince talked about. If he stops himself from becoming chaos then maybe he can stop chaos from taking other forms…like the future FF antagonists
This is very possible sense Dissidia duodecim was written to serve as a prequel to FF1 and the origin of the warrior of light. Not to mention that Square has made attempts to connect all the FF games no matter how stupid it may be.
Played Mobius and funny how Jed? (the duelist) is like Kei in Season two. More ironic. I think its the same voice actor too. But seeing the world map for mission selection. Its still FF1 world. But the intro txt for the 2nd stage saying dimensions in the area. This btw is near the Dark Elf castle area. So this leaves lot of pondering WTF is going in this world.
Actually, I don't think you're wrong. During the loading screen in SIP, one of the written lore mentions a Dimension 7 and proceeds to talk about one of the aspects of Final Fantasy 7, which opens up the possibility that SIP provides an anchor for a Final Fantasy multiverse.
This theory actually fits XIV a bit better. As its had references and/or crossovers with nearly every other ff title. I mean Lightning from XIII, Noctis from XV and Iroha from XI, have all appeared in the game. And I could go on for hours listing all the references to other ff titles in the game.
This sounds very possible. I can even see how this opens up from a marketing side. Shared worlds is already a Dissidia thing. If this project can connect to other FF titles to make fans curious (MCU style), there's your link into your remakes (FF9), sequels (FFX-3) and remasters (FF13?). Plus, diverging and shared timelines/universes is the thing now (MCU, DCEU soon, Sony's marvel game universe, FF7R). Too soon to tell but...
@@johnjohns8863 I liked 13, so me and No One makes 2. The 9 remake is still just a rumor, and I've heard nothing on a 10 remake. That one sounds like nonsense. None of this will be within the next 5 years though, so who really knows
@@tullock13 nope not true ff9 remake was leaked and ffx remake has been confirmed there no point making ffx-3 without remaking the other 2 to better quality
final fantasy 10 final fantasy 10-2 final fantasy 10-3 final fantasy 7 crisis core final fantasy 7 remake final fantasy 7 rebirth final fantasy 7 part 3 are all the same world and will lead into each other lore wise so remaking 10 as a trilogy is gonna happen to explain where shinra come from and jenova will be a part of ff10-3
This idea is a hell of a lot better than the other idea that I had about it. Call me outspoken but I actually like the way this game is being handled! The dialogue could use a lot of work though...
Connecting all the games is not just one of the most idiotic idea, but its also something that could massively ruin the other games, i mean seriously, just imagine that Fred Durst exists in FFXs Spira, Like Sin destroying everything is one thing, but limp bizkit ruining music aswell is just too much.
I disagree with all the FF worlds being connected, from physics standpoint. for For example FF7 has the lifestream and Final Fantasy 9 has the mist that can create monsters. Every Final Fantasy seems to have its own method of magic,abilities and world orgins. I guess you could make it into a multiverse or omniverse, but not a timeline.
I think connecting all the games would be dope and would build world immersion FFX/X-2 is connect to 7 which has been confirmed FF2 and FF 4 are connected In ff8 you can find the ultima weapon boss from ff 7 FF5 is connected to ff: legend of the crystal
I already play a game that masterfully pays homage and borrows from other Final Fantasies and does so beautifully and poignantly...and that's Final Fantasy XIV.
I hope this theory isn't true. I prefer the current arrangement wherein each mainline FF game is a completely separate canon whose contents do not co-exist alongside those of other mainline FF games. All multiverse theory would do is solidify that nothing is unique, ergo everything is expendable.
A small suggestion: Could you add a pop-up to introduce the song title and artiste you play in the background? (Sort of like FF Union used to do). I kept going "I know that song... but where did I hear it from?! ARGH!!!!!"
The arena where the Tiamat fight takes place resembles a little to a Midgard reactor or that one underground dungeon in FFXV. If they pull a FFX reference in this game, you might be on to something
That is impossible. Final Fantasy consists of 2 different planets with interval other worlds within themselves. There is the Ivalice world and there is the Terra world. Ivalice has its opposite world of the original Final Fantasy 1 world. The Terra worlds opposite world is the place from Final Fantasy 7 through 10, an empty barren wasteland with castles, beautiful cities, and palaces. In 5, they fuse together as one planet, mixing together both the Terra and other barren world. Now that I think about it though. Of those 4 different dimensions from the 2 worlds, theoretically, Ivalice would resemble the water world considering all the marshes and buried under water cities, it's opposite world is fire considering all the technology as the symbol for advanced technology is fire meaning to do things, specifically invent things like Airships for instance. The Terra world is earth obviously, that means the barren world is air/wind meaning intellect and wisdom, and definitely had a lot of wisdom in that world. I wonder if they were all one planet at one time, but man, that planet would be massive, like 3 times it's size in density, meaning something probably happened that was dangerous, so they split the world in half and then split the planets into 2 worlds each one to protect it, but what is that reason? Perhaps maybe the game might give us a clue.
I kind of feel FF14 could connect all the games together. It talks about the 13 reflections. We know the FF13 world was taken by darkness so that ties in nicely. Though that would involve some serious deep dives into the lore.
i IMMEDIATELY assumed that this was origin of world B as soon as i saw the trailer. once i saw it was team ninja i was like ok this MUST be related to dissidia somehow
I still say that nomura wants to make a kh type game with just the FF universe. Like...dissidia, but an actual RPG franchise. Like what marvel did with their cinematic universe. So basically a Final Fantasy Avengers, FFVIIR was the beginning, the loop was broken and destiny was beaten. Also, ffxiii trilogy dabbles in time travel quite a bit....which is sus. Let's not forget ultimecia as well. So many possibilities.
I found it much more likely that if this succeed we will get a FF origins II in which we get the background story of Matheus how he became evil or somehting similar.
All I really know about Final Fantasy, and for that matter, any videogame connection at all, is that, be it by references, easter eggs or simply inspiration, there will always be a connection to higher realities. What I mean by that is that both Nintendo games, as well as all games related to the games Nintendo makes, as well aa other companies, grouped together as a whole, are made by people in our part of reality, and, if anything, it all culminates in Super Smash Bros. The reason I say this, even though it seems that I'm not even talking about Final Fanrasy, is because Final Fantasy, as a whole, was born from people with creative and logical faculties, meaning, the world itself has an "error". That "error" I speak of is "Void", which appears always in the world of videogames, be it in a smaller or lesser degree, as a background thing or a main threat. "The Void", from where darkness comes from, is not possible if there is no absence of light, and since light exists forever past, present and future, beyond the material, when there is an infinitely small region of reality that collapses because of evil, it enters a state of stagnancy, and with it, brings death. "Death", as in, "devoid of spiritual life", meaning, spirits, souls and matter can still exist, but without life, it slowly decays until nothing is left, and this is because of stagnancy and the lack of love. Ultimately, life is designed to have both spiritual and physical life, so, what happenes when life is created, and then, beings, out of their own free will, choose to do evil? They fall. Their frequencies fall. Their state, corrupted. This in turn, leads to delusions, false projections of a percieved reality where nothing is as it seems, and with it, spiritual darkness, as in, "devoid of knowledge and the fall after pride, leading to the blindness that deprives souls of the ability to see beyond the mere superficial". This brings two things into consideration: The tiresome teaching of "ying/yang", "two sides of the same coin", which isn't even a good analogy to begin with, but i digress. In other words, false light and obscurity (both darkness). "The Void" is simply a part of reality that is corrupt. This is a part of Hell that manifests in reality every time the frequenc drops so low that everything collapses spiritually, so much so, that even the light we see is but mere darkness that we are used to. "The Void", as in a comsic being made out of many, is also not a thought, nor is it a force, it's a cosmic being that lacks the godliness it once had. As such, it rebels against its Creator, beyond just videogames, and as such, is found also in human beings, which in turn, make the games we see now. The result: A collection of realities that range far and wide through various worlds infested with Darkness, and with it, brings disorder, or in the case of Final Fantasy, Chaos and witchcraft, which ultimately leads to world destruction. In the final reality of the collection of worlds lies a false heaven called "Nintendo", with a false god, an idol, if you will. This false god is represented with the many phases that we've seen in Kirby games, Zelda games, Mario games, Kingdom Hearts games, Mother games, and many others. Master Hand wasn't even first introduced in Smash, but in Kirby, and Galeem and Darkhon are literally "The Dead Evil One", from Lovecraftian mythos, which is the one who is spiritually dead, and therefore "asleep", posing both as false benevolence and deceitful obscurity. This cosmic being is ugly beyond recognition, and has been the cause for others to fall and be driven mad since ancient times, in all dimensions and realities within videogames. The characters that we've known stand no chance alone, which is why a real savior is needed. Sadly, and even though The Savior defeated death, the grave and the "evil god of this world", some coose to remain part of the world, be it out of lack of knowledge or simply refusing Him. As for Final Fantasy: Regardless as to weither the multiverse, as portrayed in the media, actually exists or not, Final Fantasy has the same common enemy as the rest of the videogame world; "Void", or simply put, HaSatan, "The Adversary". Not Satan, HaSatan. HaSatan is made up of many Satans, "many adversary", "legions", and as such, one third of what used to be Heaven's infinite population was dragged by one leader, called "Lucifer", not "The Lucifer", because the only one who is "The Morning Star" is "YaHuShua HaMashiach", "Salvation The Savior". Everyone else who is "Lucifer" is not "THE", only "a Luficer". The problem, though, is that the one "Lucifer" closest to "The Lucifer" became blinded by prided, and of his own free will, chose to rebek and drag as man as he could to do what he wanted, until he inevitably fell from Heaven, or in other words, lost his spiritual position of a morning star because he chose to remain in the fall rather than changing, repenting and rising to the occasion, which is why, now know as "Void" in the spiritual reality of videogames, is now trying to destroy everything with subliminal things within videogames, so much so that when things regarded as "surreal" or "absurd" start to become the norm in society, people will ve so spiritually numb and blinded that no one wil question the dangers of beings that are not of this world. When The Beast system is implemented, some will be so dead inside that it will take miracles for their salvation, and it will happen for some, but not all, and that is the concern that The Lord has. It all comes back to Him, even from topics that seem, by far, distant, and I just pray that whoever reads this, may come to the understanding that having faith in God, praying and repenting is a must, so that the world does not end up completely rid of spiritual life. God bless you and have a wonderful rest of your time.
Question. How much did you play, to say all these things in your beginning? I thought we only had a demo and some videos and that barely is enough to make these statements in my opinion?
Shinra in ffvii confirms it to me if shinra in ffx didnt. Either shinra himself from ffx or a descendant of shinra founded shinra in ffvii. And all the ffix easter eggs i never interpreted as just easter eggs. Plains named after edgar for no reason? Maduin being Mog? Trance generally? One day it will all be revealed
I never liked the FF multiverse thing with Chaos and Cosmos and trying to tie every FF game to the same universe. That's why I fully believe that they'll do it again. Everyone outside of CBU3 seems to be doing their hardest to make me hate FF.
Remake being a subtitle isn't even a theory. It's fact. With how creative team SE has been over the past decades, would anyone really be naive enough to believe they would put out a game with remake in the title just because it's a remake? I knew the second the game was released that R would have more significance than just being a "placeholder they left in." I even had a list of similar R titles for the inevitable sequel (like ReMaster, etc).
This would be fucking stupid, at least make Jack the actual WOL. Apparently WOL is actually garland to which KINDA made sense since they look similar, in reference to the original WOL and garland, just garland has way more armor.
So the origin of all Final Fantasies comes from the dudes from our world isekaied to FF1 world hmmm... This makes me think Nomura went with isekai approach only because it's currently popular in Japan.
All previous "connections" between mainline Final Fantasy games aside from sequels has just been for fan service, no real concrete connections. Not sure why they'd change that all of a sudden.
I kind of thought that it was Final Fantasy IV: The After Years that connected all of the Final Fantasy games. Or is that getting shoved out the window?
ya en el uno original se viaja a traves del tiempo para enfrentar a garland en el pasado asi que calza muy bien si pueden ir al pasado igual lo pueden justificar para fucionar mundos y hacerlos paralelos a sus historias metiendo algun crossover por aqui y por alla un viaje al mundo de suenos por ellone donde ver a laguna o a vivi muchos anos despues siendo reparado a la vida por el poder de los aeons o cualquier locura nivel kojima que quieran....
Play FFXIV, and revisit this theory after experiencing Shadowbringer. Because this theory is basically confirmed and disproven at the same time. . >Spoiler to Shadowbringer: . >Don't Read unless you want to be spoiled. . > I mean it. . . . Hint: FFXIV is the central world of a Multiverse of 14 worlds, with each of the other worlds being strongly hinted as where the other Final Fantasy games take place. Only it's more complicated and deeper than you realize. And spans at least 10k years of history.
I mean FF1 was the "first" FF, so technically it is the "origin" to all FFs. As for the multiverse, I think Dissidea connects it all. Some say it's "not canon", but I believe canonisity is what the individual wants to be canon and not what others try and force upon you.
As someone who does not believe in alternate universes and absolutely detests their being added into stories which never had them in the first place, to have the entire FF series be connected via multiverse theory (as opposed to being completely separate CANONs) would turn me off to Final Fantasy entirely. Why? Because multiverse theory implies that NOTHING is unique. And if nothing is unique, then EVERYTHING is expendable; there'd be no reason for me to care about anything that happens in any Final Fantasy story ever again. That, or I'd just refuse to accept Stranger of Paradise and other FF games with multiverse theory as canonical (Death of the Author crossed with fanon discontinuity).
Frankly speaking, I don’t see how alternate universes make everything less unique. Yes, there are an infinite example of a certain variable, but each one of those examples are very much different from each other in more ways than one, making them unique from each other. Not only that, but it can breathe new life into pre-existing materials and stories- say we have a story exploring the concept of “superheroes.” While the first story plays the trope straight, we can have an alternate universe dedicated to deconstructing the concept, which in turn allows for one to attract new interest in the older work, but to also provide richer thematic depth and meaning to said older work.
@@liansmith4038 Sorry it took me a while to respond. About this: The reason why this is such a problem for me is because infinite universes implies that every conceivable difference has an entire universe dedicated to it. Ergo, we have no reason to care whether somebody dies or not, because somewhere out there, there is an alternate universe wherein they're alive and the only difference is that they ate cereal instead of pancakes one morning. This is what I mean by "nothing is unique." Sure, there are an infinite number of universes wherein the differences are significant. But there are also an infinite number of universes wherein the differences are so insignificant that they don't actually make any difference/uniqueness at all. I also disagree with the idea that alternate universes allow for different variations of a story to be told. Because what's the point in using a pre-existing story or brand if the new story you're gonna come up with has absolutely nothing to do with the original? If the only way you can keep a franchise going is to have the plot start over in an alternate universe (or undoing things with retcons and time-travel, etc.), then face facts: it's time for your series to END. Retire the brand. Build an entirely new IP from scratch. This is part of why Hironobu Sakaguchi wanted each individual Final Fantasy game to be it's own self-contained story/canon, by the way. If all you have left to play is the "what if?" card, then frankly, I'm not interested in your series anymore, because I don't want to get invested in a continuity that isn't going to be of any actual consequence. There's a reason, after all, why the word "consequence" is also a synonym for "important." It's because: a story which lacks any consequences is a story wherein nothing the characters do matters. A story wherein nothing the characters do matters is, by definition, a story without conflict. And a story without conflict is an oxymoron.
This title I found interesting the first time they demoed it , but the second time I was getting pretty gnarly fps dips…..yeah the game looked butter but ugh the performance issues were far worse. I am not confident in this title and am more certain we are gunna be seeing some very underwhelming CHAOS.
I've always loved connected stories, but I've always hated big pot of plots mixed at random in a pot like it was a soup. Guess what this seems to be leading towards?
A world that shatters in pieces and became new worlds reminds me of the history of a critically acclaimed MMORPG.
May the Rejoining commence!
Man, that would sure be nice if it had a free trial or something...
@@thecousinbellic Up to the Moon we go.
@@patsg1146 And dragons, big dragons.
@@patsg1146 It'd be so cool if the trial let you level up all the way to 60...
Jack Garland’s Final Fantasy is the reason why your favorite Final Fantasy exists. Let us give thanks.
Bullshit *turns on airpods and leaves*
He just there to kill chaos
Tbh if they want to create more hype/ confusion in the game all they have to do is just make a secret ending where it's just Nomura just laughing for like 3 seconds and leaves
Nothing beats fighting a giant Sqex employee in a boss fight as a secret ending. *Looking at XV * wait....
Darkness.
Darkness?
Darkness.
Darkness.
How Stranger of Paradise Could Connect ALL of Final Fantasy?
Simple....Chaos!!!
In the words of Ian Malcolm, "Chaos theory!" 😂
"What you think about this theory?"
Jack Garland: "Bullshit".
In the end, we're gonna need Sora to seal the key hole to separate these worlds again.
Ho ho!! And it's gonna be verum rex who starts it. Verum rex will be a black sheep in all final fantasy universes. The true king will emerge as an outcast - living in a universe existing yet not believed to exist. It will unfold to sora that besides the disney worlds there are other worlds that are open and they leak its light warriors to another world which is not supposed to happen (dissidia) so he must seal all gates of final fantasies to end dissidia. But will this get a happy ending or will it mean trapping squall and others inside dissidia as it vanishes? Without the light warriors in their respective worlds, their worlds will be distraught, new enemies will emerge compromising their worlds and no warriors of light to vanquish them.
Then sora asks "is this my fault?"
Then he turns to the true king as his eyes change to crimson red...
Sora is an Ascian confirmed. Mickey would probably want them together
Well the lufenians just use their knowledge to bypass that seal like how they send garland to that world
the only way where final Fantasy game can be in the same univers is with spin off of the same game about different characters
@@badreedinedjellali1328 ff7 and ff10
Ok so if all the worlds are connected then I'm officially positing that the Sound that ended the Ascian Homeworld in FFXIV is actually Tidus laughing.
So every loop creates a new series then maybe the title "Final Fantasy" is the Jack's ex boss project to search for the "Final Fantasy", the final perfect world since they love to reset time.
Sounds plausible seeing as you already have alternate Prompto and Iris in your team... it sounds a little bit... chaotic... tho.
Or maybe Jack is Nomura's self insert and is determined to kill the chaos in his writing lmao.
Lake Bresha was the most beautiful place in FFXIII in my honest opinion. 1:07
Oh and that Soundtrack
If they did that it would betray the intentions of Hironobu Sakaguchi. Messing with the father of FF is a no no, Square Stupid.
I'd rather have 14 do that, they are already pretty damn good at integrating stories and characters from other FF games, even from Square games we will never get (Vagrant Story 2, sigh), so it would be great if the next major storyline after Endwalker is a Dissidia style story that takes us across the FF universe dropping us into locations from those games and teaming us and our 14 characters with characters from the other games (post their own FF stories), that would be quite epic specially it will span several expansions.
I'd thought about that when I played Shadow Bringers, with the first game having been light enough on story that that could be the "first shard" but I don't think that's what they're planning.
there's a lot of things that can go wrong there. There's no way one dev team is able to smoothly continue & integrate characters and develop believable character traits post their own FF stories for every single one. It would be an awesome idea, but no one's gonna accept such a huge burden just for an expansion. Even thinking about e.g., just Lightning or Cloud, for starters, it's already very difficult to write their character post-game DESPITE so much material and so many games we have with them. The fans will never be happy. So better stick to the beautiful XIV world and use their assets and what they already have. Also, I didn't think there would be content post Endwalker. I thought Yoshida was going to move to the mainline games, and that his team was going to port XIV to mobile and the Switch and make an offline version of XIV some day. Never thought about post-Endwalker, tbh.
@@NoctLightCloud They already said that they will spare no expense on making the game the best it could be, and talked about the stuff they will focus on in the next 10 years, so there is at least 8-10 years more of FF14 before we get another online FF game (maybe FF19 or something), so Endwalker isn't the end of the road, it's just the end for the current story and afterwards a new story will start.
Also the FF14 team already created adaptions or cameos for characters, summons and bosses from all across the FF games, most recent being Noctis (FF15), then we had Gilgamesh and Yojimbo and the Ultima and Omega weapons, also Lightning made an appearance (FF13), as well as characters like Fran (FF12), and Yasumi Matsuno himself created a raid series that involved many characters and enemies from FF Tactics, so they are quite familiar with the process.
It sounds like Kingdom Hearts, but replace Disney with... more final fantasy 😆
I always figured that every FF verse is just a reflection/refraction of the Crystal from FF9
As in everything is just a different possibility shown through the prism of that one Crystal and that that's why the FF theme is always the Crystal theme
go play 14
@@lornelthaltmer why?
That theory is really interesting to ponder about! That could be a possibility! It kind of feels like we are getting a Dissidia-like game but more action based and more centered towards single player.😁 Always love the uploads NSP!😁🙌🏽
Hoepfully they are testing the waters with this game for a reintroduction of Dissidia. I would love Dissida Duodecim to come back.
Honestly this is what I've thought since I saw the title. The origin of all final fantasy. Sounds really cool as a concept.
I'd personally be hyped if this actually ended up being part of the premise of Stranger of paradise.
I also think that way, that Origin is gonna connect ALL ff games. (Cause we've literally also had Dissidia and no one was really against Dissidia. And we had XIV.) I think it would be well received if it was a good game like XIV doing that. But fans are gonna find that connecting lame because the game Origin itself is highly likely to be just lame (unfortunately). I am VERY sure that if VIIR was done in an even more sophisticated way (e.g., open areas, overworld, more than just Midgar) that the whisperers would've been much better received. Same for KH3. It's difficult for the masses to seperate an idea/plot from the overall game's reception.
Tldr; Yes, everyone's gonna hate this idea.
I honestly wouldn’t mind this theory working out, if given more detail. Having a Dissida-like Action RPG sounds hype as all hell! Although, the more likely case here is that it not only explains the origins of Garland, but the time loop as a whole since the time loop isn’t easy to explain in text. I got hyped for this as well, since FF1 needed some much needed lore expansion outside of Dissidia’s exploration on their Cid & summons being gone.
Either way, this game is a Day 1 buy, hands down!
the protag limp bizkit is going to be awesome in this game can't wait
I also have the same theory as you and one of them that all of final fantasy series ending bosses were former agents of lufenians and the avengers/warriors of light are the inhabitants of the new world that they have to train when the lufenians decided to erase their worlds existence, so that they have a sliver of hope to fight for their world and to prove the lufenians that the inhabitants of the new world can take care of themselves and they don't need anymore their guidance to keep the balance of light and darkness. And most of all that to tell the lufenians that they can't use the god card to play/toy the new worlds anymore
And my theory is that the lufenians are the real villains of the ff series.
Remember Cosmogenesis in Lightning Returns? The realm that connects all the FF universes? What if they somehow reboot Fabula Nova Crystallis, either through this or via Versus XIII in Kingdom Hearts?
Where does it say Cosmogenesis connects all of the FF universes?
@@awakenow7147 hmm, I thought I read that on the fan wiki page about it but after looking it up again I couldn't find that bit. I must have seen some wrong information.
It's connected to our actual Earth or a fantasy that became reality.
I thought Fabula nova crystallis is one universe including ff13,15 and ivalice alliance
FNC includes XIII and Type-0, and I think there may be some Etro references in XV from when it was Versus Xiii. Ivalice Alliance isn't connected to it unless I'm wildly mistaken.
Hey now, while the Princess is certainly lovely, I also adore Neon's design as well.
Everything is born from *CHAOS*
Oh no. A theory made for me.
Who knows where this will go, but I was getting serious Mobius vibes and the Mobius story deeply follows Origin as well in an FNC way but stays canon to FFX and features oddly consistent FFVII content content in it. And it all revolved around a job changing WoL, Garland, and Sarah… really curious to see where this goes
Side note: I can’t be the only one who thinks Neon, out of the whole party, gives off the AmanoxNomura WoL design vibes more than anyone else. Put all the cast in the classic armor, shield and sword, and then just start pondering.
All you really need to know is that Kazushige Nojima is writing it, it WILL go off the rails in that wonderfully Japanese way and you’ll either be enjoying the ride as I do or not
Presumably with Limp Bizkit in the background as it happens, I guess? Absolutely nothing about SoF creates an expectation for its writing. It has been giving the opposite impression, actually.
This sounds like it could be a reverse Kingdom Hearts (except a full Final Fantasy Multiverse). Part of me does love the idea of FF finally coming together like Dissidia. But in the same token...the unique exclusive stories in each world/realm kinda made it it's own to me. That said, I'm really curious to give it a try none the less.
FF multiverse story is in FFXIV already
So even they aren't too sure what the references are for... how surprising. This being a project attempting to connect FFs sounds about as good as Compilation enhancing the original game (just kidding of course, the former is way worse), as even there it doesn't seem too clear what's canon or not, as has been further shown with VIIR, in a sort of "it matters when we want to matter, maybe".
The more I hear about this game's possible aspirations, the more I want it to *just* be a heavily modded (and downgraded) Nioh 2, contradicting my own feelings by two layers. Thanks SE.
It is fine as separate stories, but it is the greed of wanting it all connected and having it a mystery to entice people. I would love for FF VII remake to not be connected as in being a sequel etc, but the narrative devices of using fate and time where the blueprint was the OG connect it to the OG regardless of whatever excuse or explanation is used and even if they eventually go down "similar route". Dissdia and such games work when just for fun but if they are supposed to be canon it destroys the worlds it builds itself on just for some form of fan service as it is impossible to juggle every FF games stories without destroying them with mechanics needed to do these crossover games.
It is also sad when the developers do as you say, and it seems that lore and such only matters when they want, and it is freely discarded for whatever reason at other times.
01:22 So i look up that Afrika (2008) game and it's apparently a game where you'll run around in vehicle looking up and taking pictures of animals in Africa. And that's it . . . . . really . . . that's it
totally spot on, in the missives it talks about "dimensions" with a number. All places in the game are maps from other games.
Nice cameo from 14, heard that to the edge in background. As for this game I will treat it like ff7r: a separate retelling of a story and nothing more. This way it won't hurt the love we have for the originals and still find enjoyment regardless.
Actually, you should think of FF7r it more like a sequel, because that's what it is. The Sephiroth we see in the game, is Sephiroth from after the events of Advent Children. He's come back to change the events of the original FFVII in order to hopefully win this time.
@@robertterhune4965 That's... probably exactly why he considers it a separate retelling,
@@ltb1345 It's not really a separate retelling though. FFVII is canon to FFVIIR, and is an extremely important part of the backstory to FFVIIR.
Damn Prince, I am enjoying this type of content from you!
I could see them doing that.
I could see it being done well.
I am not _confident_ that it would be done well, but I could see it.
I swear if in Stranger of Paradise Amaurot is like mentioned or something than yeah we could consider it a true origin to all, a world as it looks when whole. A friend and myself think that Tiamat is in something that looks like Allagan or perhaps ancient Ancient, either way it'd be mind blowing. I love the ideas of all FFs being connected together in some form or way. =3
I definitely think it's possible
Depends what you mean by connect them, as all ff worlds take place in the same overall universe, with notable characters such as omega and gilgamesh being able to hop between the different worlds at times.
And any ff crossover with xiv is literally canon both games if if both get something so in xiv, noct actually visits xiv's world canonically due to the connections.
They is a Miqote in XV, and she officially canon with Garuda showing up!.!
I kinda love it and kinda hate it, but i think it is possible. Connecting the whole franchise however is going to have MASSIVE implications though just from the FFXIV connection since that is connected to the DrakeNieR universe, NieR specifically being an alternate version of earth. All other crossovers be damned in FFXIV since they of dubious canonicity, that alone will open so many potential theories since that game also involves dimensional travel.
Interesting theory i would love to see more^^
this is best theory i heard of final fantasy universe and i played everyone so far
Dirge of Cerberus, while not a favorite I did enjoy Dirge of Cerberus a bit, I'm in!
So I’ve always known FFX and FF7 are connected but I recently found out FF12 and FF Tatics take place in the same world with 12 occurring pre Tatics. With all that and FF15 sometimes appearing in FF14 events, I’ve been thinking for awhile about how all these games could exist in a multiverse. With this game saying that by starting the events of FF1, it would literally start the events of all FF games it’s not a bad idea how to explain the multiverse. FF1 SHOULD be what creates this multiverse.
The problem is though if Stranger of Paradise isn’t a great game with Mr. Shaddy, this great potential idea will turn out terribly in execution. And if this does that, all the good will FF14 (and to some FF7RE) have brought to the franchise will piss of the FF community and those kinda being brought back to the franchise. FF is on shaky ground with FF14 helping this series for many, so this won’t hurt FF14, but this could hurt all the good 14 has done to the name of FF.
Actually FFX and FFVII are not connected everyone believe that bc of the Shinra theory and because the producer or director I don't know whatever made a joke about it. It's clearly not the same world not the same history not the same races nothing
@@forestadamo4209 I thought it wasn't a joke, and that he actually revealed it.
noticed that as soon as shiva and ifirt wee together like how ff15 said they werer a long time ag, also chaos advent, and advent children... tell me its not onnected anymore
I mean knowing how nomura gets down, the main character is prolly the heart of sora who traveled to this universe in order to find chaos because chaos is a clone of garlond who was the vessel for sephiroth who dhdurkfovjfnfkosodb jdhrhf hdhfj …….(3 days later) and so that brings us to how final fantasy origins is the origin to the series but we still dont know who the main character really is just yet.
So guys, i consider myself to be a massive FF fan, but I have to admit, my love for the franchise started from FF7 onward. But I’ve read the premises for every previous FF but there are a lot of gaps in my knowledge of the series before 7…So please forgive me if this is a stupid question…
The antagonists name in the very first FF is Garland right?…so is stranger of paradise about how Jack Garland becomes the antagonist of the first game? Sort of like a prequel to the original FF?
This being the case, it would be cool if Jack is trying to kill chaos in order to stop the time loop The Night Sky Prince talked about.
If he stops himself from becoming chaos then maybe he can stop chaos from taking other forms…like the future FF antagonists
That theory would actually be really cool
This is very possible sense Dissidia duodecim was written to serve as a prequel to FF1 and the origin of the warrior of light. Not to mention that Square has made attempts to connect all the FF games no matter how stupid it may be.
Played Mobius and funny how Jed? (the duelist) is like Kei in Season two. More ironic. I think its the same voice actor too. But seeing the world map for mission selection. Its still FF1 world. But the intro txt for the 2nd stage saying dimensions in the area. This btw is near the Dark Elf castle area. So this leaves lot of pondering WTF is going in this world.
Lost Stranger may take place in one of 14’s Hydaelyn 13 shards
Actually, I don't think you're wrong. During the loading screen in SIP, one of the written lore mentions a Dimension 7 and proceeds to talk about one of the aspects of Final Fantasy 7, which opens up the possibility that SIP provides an anchor for a Final Fantasy multiverse.
This theory actually fits XIV a bit better. As its had references and/or crossovers with nearly every other ff title. I mean Lightning from XIII, Noctis from XV and Iroha from XI, have all appeared in the game. And I could go on for hours listing all the references to other ff titles in the game.
This sounds very possible. I can even see how this opens up from a marketing side. Shared worlds is already a Dissidia thing. If this project can connect to other FF titles to make fans curious (MCU style), there's your link into your remakes (FF9), sequels (FFX-3) and remasters (FF13?). Plus, diverging and shared timelines/universes is the thing now (MCU, DCEU soon, Sony's marvel game universe, FF7R). Too soon to tell but...
No one cares about that trash ff13 and ffx3 wont be made for a while as they are remaking ff7 ff9 and ffx
@@johnjohns8863 I liked 13, so me and No One makes 2. The 9 remake is still just a rumor, and I've heard nothing on a 10 remake. That one sounds like nonsense. None of this will be within the next 5 years though, so who really knows
@@tullock13 nope not true ff9 remake was leaked and ffx remake has been confirmed there no point making ffx-3 without remaking the other 2 to better quality
final fantasy 10
final fantasy 10-2
final fantasy 10-3
final fantasy 7 crisis core
final fantasy 7 remake
final fantasy 7 rebirth
final fantasy 7 part 3
are all the same world and will lead into each other lore wise so remaking 10 as a trilogy is gonna happen to explain where shinra come from and jenova will be a part of ff10-3
I played the 2nd SoP demo and enjoyed it. I'm excited for this game and more reinterpretation of FF games
This idea is a hell of a lot better than the other idea that I had about it.
Call me outspoken but I actually like the way this game is being handled!
The dialogue could use a lot of work though...
Connecting all the games is not just one of the most idiotic idea, but its also something that could massively ruin the other games, i mean seriously, just imagine that Fred Durst exists in FFXs Spira, Like Sin destroying everything is one thing, but limp bizkit ruining music aswell is just too much.
I disagree with all the FF worlds being connected, from physics standpoint. for For example FF7 has the lifestream and Final Fantasy 9 has the mist that can create monsters. Every Final Fantasy seems to have its own method of magic,abilities and world orgins. I guess you could make it into a multiverse or omniverse, but not a timeline.
I think connecting all the games would be dope and would build world immersion
FFX/X-2 is connect to 7 which has been confirmed
FF2 and FF 4 are connected
In ff8 you can find the ultima weapon boss from ff 7
FF5 is connected to ff: legend of the crystal
I already play a game that masterfully pays homage and borrows from other Final Fantasies and does so beautifully and poignantly...and that's Final Fantasy XIV.
I hope this theory isn't true. I prefer the current arrangement wherein each mainline FF game is a completely separate canon whose contents do not co-exist alongside those of other mainline FF games. All multiverse theory would do is solidify that nothing is unique, ergo everything is expendable.
A small suggestion: Could you add a pop-up to introduce the song title and artiste you play in the background? (Sort of like FF Union used to do). I kept going "I know that song... but where did I hear it from?! ARGH!!!!!"
The arena where the Tiamat fight takes place resembles a little to a Midgard reactor or that one underground dungeon in FFXV. If they pull a FFX reference in this game, you might be on to something
That is impossible. Final Fantasy consists of 2 different planets with interval other worlds within themselves. There is the Ivalice world and there is the Terra world. Ivalice has its opposite world of the original Final Fantasy 1 world. The Terra worlds opposite world is the place from Final Fantasy 7 through 10, an empty barren wasteland with castles, beautiful cities, and palaces.
In 5, they fuse together as one planet, mixing together both the Terra and other barren world.
Now that I think about it though. Of those 4 different dimensions from the 2 worlds, theoretically, Ivalice would resemble the water world considering all the marshes and buried under water cities, it's opposite world is fire considering all the technology as the symbol for advanced technology is fire meaning to do things, specifically invent things like Airships for instance. The Terra world is earth obviously, that means the barren world is air/wind meaning intellect and wisdom, and definitely had a lot of wisdom in that world. I wonder if they were all one planet at one time, but man, that planet would be massive, like 3 times it's size in density, meaning something probably happened that was dangerous, so they split the world in half and then split the planets into 2 worlds each one to protect it, but what is that reason? Perhaps maybe the game might give us a clue.
I kind of feel FF14 could connect all the games together. It talks about the 13 reflections. We know the FF13 world was taken by darkness so that ties in nicely. Though that would involve some serious deep dives into the lore.
Gran Pulse is the most beautiful FF world.
Yea, it was really incredible. It's sad that many people gave up on the game before getting to explore and experience it.
i IMMEDIATELY assumed that this was origin of world B as soon as i saw the trailer. once i saw it was team ninja i was like ok this MUST be related to dissidia somehow
Lightning Returns had a great combat and more Caius. So there's that, at least lol.
I still say that nomura wants to make a kh type game with just the FF universe. Like...dissidia, but an actual RPG franchise. Like what marvel did with their cinematic universe. So basically a Final Fantasy Avengers, FFVIIR was the beginning, the loop was broken and destiny was beaten. Also, ffxiii trilogy dabbles in time travel quite a bit....which is sus. Let's not forget ultimecia as well. So many possibilities.
I found it much more likely that if this succeed we will get a FF origins II in which we get the background story of Matheus how he became evil or somehting similar.
I'm stupidly excited for this after that second demo.
Really good FF video like always:)
Beyond hyped for this game
I'd love for a series of games around FF7R to become a mini-marval universe. I think it's a horrible idea to attempt for the series as a whole.
Jack Garland the founding hero of Final Fantasy.
All I really know about Final Fantasy, and for that matter, any videogame connection at all, is that, be it by references, easter eggs or simply inspiration, there will always be a connection to higher realities.
What I mean by that is that both Nintendo games, as well as all games related to the games Nintendo makes, as well aa other companies, grouped together as a whole, are made by people in our part of reality, and, if anything, it all culminates in Super Smash Bros.
The reason I say this, even though it seems that I'm not even talking about Final Fanrasy, is because Final Fantasy, as a whole, was born from people with creative and logical faculties, meaning, the world itself has an "error". That "error" I speak of is "Void", which appears always in the world of videogames, be it in a smaller or lesser degree, as a background thing or a main threat.
"The Void", from where darkness comes from, is not possible if there is no absence of light, and since light exists forever past, present and future, beyond the material, when there is an infinitely small region of reality that collapses because of evil, it enters a state of stagnancy, and with it, brings death.
"Death", as in, "devoid of spiritual life", meaning, spirits, souls and matter can still exist, but without life, it slowly decays until nothing is left, and this is because of stagnancy and the lack of love.
Ultimately, life is designed to have both spiritual and physical life, so, what happenes when life is created, and then, beings, out of their own free will, choose to do evil? They fall. Their frequencies fall. Their state, corrupted.
This in turn, leads to delusions, false projections of a percieved reality where nothing is as it seems, and with it, spiritual darkness, as in, "devoid of knowledge and the fall after pride, leading to the blindness that deprives souls of the ability to see beyond the mere superficial".
This brings two things into consideration: The tiresome teaching of "ying/yang", "two sides of the same coin", which isn't even a good analogy to begin with, but i digress.
In other words, false light and obscurity (both darkness).
"The Void" is simply a part of reality that is corrupt. This is a part of Hell that manifests in reality every time the frequenc drops so low that everything collapses spiritually, so much so, that even the light we see is but mere darkness that we are used to.
"The Void", as in a comsic being made out of many, is also not a thought, nor is it a force, it's a cosmic being that lacks the godliness it once had. As such, it rebels against its Creator, beyond just videogames, and as such, is found also in human beings, which in turn, make the games we see now.
The result: A collection of realities that range far and wide through various worlds infested with Darkness, and with it, brings disorder, or in the case of Final Fantasy, Chaos and witchcraft, which ultimately leads to world destruction.
In the final reality of the collection of worlds lies a false heaven called "Nintendo", with a false god, an idol, if you will.
This false god is represented with the many phases that we've seen in Kirby games, Zelda games, Mario games, Kingdom Hearts games, Mother games, and many others.
Master Hand wasn't even first introduced in Smash, but in Kirby, and Galeem and Darkhon are literally "The Dead Evil One", from Lovecraftian mythos, which is the one who is spiritually dead, and therefore "asleep", posing both as false benevolence and deceitful obscurity.
This cosmic being is ugly beyond recognition, and has been the cause for others to fall and be driven mad since ancient times, in all dimensions and realities within videogames.
The characters that we've known stand no chance alone, which is why a real savior is needed.
Sadly, and even though The Savior defeated death, the grave and the "evil god of this world", some coose to remain part of the world, be it out of lack of knowledge or simply refusing Him.
As for Final Fantasy: Regardless as to weither the multiverse, as portrayed in the media, actually exists or not, Final Fantasy has the same common enemy as the rest of the videogame world; "Void", or simply put, HaSatan, "The Adversary".
Not Satan, HaSatan. HaSatan is made up of many Satans, "many adversary", "legions", and as such, one third of what used to be Heaven's infinite population was dragged by one leader, called "Lucifer", not "The Lucifer", because the only one who is "The Morning Star" is "YaHuShua HaMashiach", "Salvation The Savior". Everyone else who is "Lucifer" is not "THE", only "a Luficer".
The problem, though, is that the one "Lucifer" closest to "The Lucifer" became blinded by prided, and of his own free will, chose to rebek and drag as man as he could to do what he wanted, until he inevitably fell from Heaven, or in other words, lost his spiritual position of a morning star because he chose to remain in the fall rather than changing, repenting and rising to the occasion, which is why, now know as "Void" in the spiritual reality of videogames, is now trying to destroy everything with subliminal things within videogames, so much so that when things regarded as "surreal" or "absurd" start to become the norm in society, people will ve so spiritually numb and blinded that no one wil question the dangers of beings that are not of this world. When The Beast system is implemented, some will be so dead inside that it will take miracles for their salvation, and it will happen for some, but not all, and that is the concern that The Lord has.
It all comes back to Him, even from topics that seem, by far, distant, and I just pray that whoever reads this, may come to the understanding that having faith in God, praying and repenting is a must, so that the world does not end up completely rid of spiritual life.
God bless you and have a wonderful rest of your time.
Question.
How much did you play, to say all these things in your beginning?
I thought we only had a demo and some videos and that barely is enough to make these statements in my opinion?
Shinra in ffvii confirms it to me if shinra in ffx didnt. Either shinra himself from ffx or a descendant of shinra founded shinra in ffvii. And all the ffix easter eggs i never interpreted as just easter eggs. Plains named after edgar for no reason? Maduin being Mog? Trance generally? One day it will all be revealed
Moogles, chocobos, flans? Cmon now
I never liked the FF multiverse thing with Chaos and Cosmos and trying to tie every FF game to the same universe. That's why I fully believe that they'll do it again. Everyone outside of CBU3 seems to be doing their hardest to make me hate FF.
Nobody cares!
Jack and Co are sweet perfect smol beans.
Remake being a subtitle isn't even a theory. It's fact. With how creative team SE has been over the past decades, would anyone really be naive enough to believe they would put out a game with remake in the title just because it's a remake? I knew the second the game was released that R would have more significance than just being a "placeholder they left in." I even had a list of similar R titles for the inevitable sequel (like ReMaster, etc).
This would be fucking stupid, at least make Jack the actual WOL. Apparently WOL is actually garland to which KINDA made sense since they look similar, in reference to the original WOL and garland, just garland has way more armor.
FF already was a multiverse. Like I'm pretty sure the events of Ivalice don't take place in the same universe as say Final Fantasy VII
Well when you put it all together like that yes, I can see it being possible
So the origin of all Final Fantasies comes from the dudes from our world isekaied to FF1 world hmmm... This makes me think Nomura went with isekai approach only because it's currently popular in Japan.
Connected universe/multiverse has been implied I multiple mainline entries already.
Well, I actually don't want FF games to be connected to each other more, than they are now. Just let those worlds be on their own.
The girl reminded me of Princess Irulan of the 1984 Dune.
this is already stated in World of Final Fantasy. please check it out and talk about it.
And Tetsuya Normura is the producer
also FF13 producer is Normura
OOPS!
Honestly i hope the other garland that mentioned in the story is the one that disappeared from mobius final fantasy.
I love how ridiculous the game is with it's CHAOS and it's random Blizkit music, but I'd die a bit inside if it's actually the origin of all FF games.
SOP is more like a single offline version of mobius but not to a gameplay reference.
All previous "connections" between mainline Final Fantasy games aside from sequels has just been for fan service, no real concrete connections. Not sure why they'd change that all of a sudden.
I kind of thought that it was Final Fantasy IV: The After Years that connected all of the Final Fantasy games. Or is that getting shoved out the window?
Ok I actually love this theory tho
ya en el uno original se viaja a traves del tiempo para enfrentar a garland en el pasado asi que calza muy bien si pueden ir al pasado igual lo pueden justificar para fucionar mundos y hacerlos paralelos a sus historias metiendo algun crossover por aqui y por alla un viaje al mundo de suenos por ellone donde ver a laguna o a vivi muchos anos despues siendo reparado a la vida por el poder de los aeons o cualquier locura nivel kojima que quieran....
🥲 Mobius Final Fantasy was amazing.....
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@@TheNightSkyPrince ❤🧡💛💙💚💜🤎
Play FFXIV, and revisit this theory after experiencing Shadowbringer. Because this theory is basically confirmed and disproven at the same time.
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>Spoiler to Shadowbringer:
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>Don't Read unless you want to be spoiled.
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Hint: FFXIV is the central world of a Multiverse of 14 worlds, with each of the other worlds being strongly hinted as where the other Final Fantasy games take place. Only it's more complicated and deeper than you realize. And spans at least 10k years of history.
I mean FF1 was the "first" FF, so technically it is the "origin" to all FFs. As for the multiverse, I think Dissidea connects it all. Some say it's "not canon", but I believe canonisity is what the individual wants to be canon and not what others try and force upon you.
dissidia is canon just only canon for Garland/chaos lmao and possibly the "Warrior of Light" character
As someone who does not believe in alternate universes and absolutely detests their being added into stories which never had them in the first place, to have the entire FF series be connected via multiverse theory (as opposed to being completely separate CANONs) would turn me off to Final Fantasy entirely. Why? Because multiverse theory implies that NOTHING is unique. And if nothing is unique, then EVERYTHING is expendable; there'd be no reason for me to care about anything that happens in any Final Fantasy story ever again.
That, or I'd just refuse to accept Stranger of Paradise and other FF games with multiverse theory as canonical (Death of the Author crossed with fanon discontinuity).
Frankly speaking, I don’t see how alternate universes make everything less unique. Yes, there are an infinite example of a certain variable, but each one of those examples are very much different from each other in more ways than one, making them unique from each other.
Not only that, but it can breathe new life into pre-existing materials and stories- say we have a story exploring the concept of “superheroes.” While the first story plays the trope straight, we can have an alternate universe dedicated to deconstructing the concept, which in turn allows for one to attract new interest in the older work, but to also provide richer thematic depth and meaning to said older work.
@@liansmith4038 Sorry it took me a while to respond. About this:
The reason why this is such a problem for me is because infinite universes implies that every conceivable difference has an entire universe dedicated to it. Ergo, we have no reason to care whether somebody dies or not, because somewhere out there, there is an alternate universe wherein they're alive and the only difference is that they ate cereal instead of pancakes one morning.
This is what I mean by "nothing is unique." Sure, there are an infinite number of universes wherein the differences are significant. But there are also an infinite number of universes wherein the differences are so insignificant that they don't actually make any difference/uniqueness at all.
I also disagree with the idea that alternate universes allow for different variations of a story to be told. Because what's the point in using a pre-existing story or brand if the new story you're gonna come up with has absolutely nothing to do with the original?
If the only way you can keep a franchise going is to have the plot start over in an alternate universe (or undoing things with retcons and time-travel, etc.), then face facts: it's time for your series to END. Retire the brand. Build an entirely new IP from scratch. This is part of why Hironobu Sakaguchi wanted each individual Final Fantasy game to be it's own self-contained story/canon, by the way.
If all you have left to play is the "what if?" card, then frankly, I'm not interested in your series anymore, because I don't want to get invested in a continuity that isn't going to be of any actual consequence.
There's a reason, after all, why the word "consequence" is also a synonym for "important." It's because: a story which lacks any consequences is a story wherein nothing the characters do matters. A story wherein nothing the characters do matters is, by definition, a story without conflict. And a story without conflict is an oxymoron.
I don’t have the same theory. But I thought it seemed like Origin of FF as well.
So basically everything in final fantasy can be summed up and blamed against one entity….
C H A O S
This title I found interesting the first time they demoed it , but the second time I was getting pretty gnarly fps dips…..yeah the game looked butter but ugh the performance issues were far worse. I am not confident in this title and am more certain we are gunna be seeing some very underwhelming CHAOS.
It does sounds plausible and that scares me… hopefully if they do it, it’ll be done right
I presumed this was what it was going to be anyway... I didn't know people didn't like this idea!
I've always loved connected stories, but I've always hated big pot of plots mixed at random in a pot like it was a soup.
Guess what this seems to be leading towards?
It would be neat if they fit The Spirits Within in there
I need that trucker hat.