Final Fantasy Theory: Jenova is Yunalesca (louder version)
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Hello everyone, this is the improved audio version of my original! Is Jenova really Yunalesca? I think so.
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Fun fact, if you reorient the world maps of FF6, FF7, FF8 you quickly realize its the same planet over the span of countless millennia. The cities of Tzen, Midgar and Balamb garden are all in the same locations. The cities of Costa del sol and Fishermans horizon are also in the same spots. The cities of Kalm and dollet are in the same place. Nibelem and the cetra ruins are in the same mountains as are north coral and mt. koltz. Figaro Castle, Gold saucer and Esthar are all in the same desert. Zozo and mideel are in the same place on the same peninsula. And Northern creator and cresent mountain are in the same spot. And in the vast similarities and unique elements of the three games, magicite in 6, mateira in 7 and magic draw fountains (life stream) in 8? The cetra being critical components in all 3, The magical gods of 6 being referenced as the encients in 7 and the Sorcerors wars of the deep past in 8. The 3 games really are in my opinion the same world over the span of possibly 1000's if not more years of time.
Huh really? That's certainly interesting. It could change the theory not to worlds but simply a permanent battle they've fought for centuries.
Except the craters of the game have om record to stat they are not the same universe game to game unless specifically said like ff7 and ff10.
Even if this wasn’t the original intention of the writers of these games, As a writer I would just be like “yeah no… that’s, that’s exactly what I intended… definitely not wasn’t a coincidence or anything… I’m actually very smart.”
Its kinda like when I tell a bad joke and it gets missunderstud for something way funnier.
Friend: Dude you should be a commedian.
Me: Yeah totally
Nintendo literally did that for the Zelda timeline theory. Sat back, said nothing for almost 2 decades, then suddenly said they had a timeline
I think the theory is spot on. The Shinra connection is too obvious. I know ff reuses names but it's always cid and those guys. Never shinra
They always made 10 as a prequel to 7. So some of this may actually be what they intended. The original design makes it more obvious, but they did eventually change it to a more fantasy setting. 7 does not have animal people like the other games do. However, you can write that off as an inconsistency due to changing the story last minute. They did eventually kill most of the Ronso in the story as well. While they made it apparent that all Ronso died in 10. They went back on it in 10-2 and changed it not to include all Ronso.
I'm thinking maybe how they genetically enhanced the humans in 7 might be by combining the natural ability for certain races to use magic like the guado into humans. Might include Ronso strength as Cloud is canonly super human even if he doesn't do that many super human feats. They just blatantly tell you during the story he is.
So it's probably a coincidence that they just happened to lay down the framework for it to make sense in 7. However, they built some of that framework to make sense on purpose so that it did actually tie into 7 to some degree. There is no way they intended all of this, but they are good writers for setting it up that well that even the offhand lore makes sense.
lol, my thoughts too
You know. The more I think about it, it actually makes a ton of sense. Rebirth could elaborate on that if they want. We also heard from Nomura there's a story they have for 10-3 as well.
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The story of 10 3 was on the remastered ff10/10 2 collection, tidus and yuna break up and sin returns at the far plane, yuna heads there with some new summoner guy and tidus goes to get her back with auron's daughter
I mean it makes a lot of sense. The visions of Zack and aerith at the end could be their unsent forms ( since the sending is not a practice used on Gaia ) they are just too pure to be turned to monsters. Where sephiroth was not so pure so his power in death was amplified and also turned him evil. I love this concept it makes a lot of sense
I love the theory in linking 7 to 10, since we have already seen connections revealed in X2 and 7R it makes sense that the antagonist could also be a reincarnation… one part that I think you may need to revisit or tweak a bit is that the people of Spira fled to Gaia, the developers have said the Spira and Gaia are the same world… but otherwise this is a great theory and I enjoyed watching 👍
not saying I don't want to believe you, but can I get a citation on that one? please? I want to read it myself and be left with a sense of "What the fuck is going on here?? Nomura??? What are you smoking??" all over again.
@@Rikarikun it was an interview with Nomura a couple months ago and they asked because of the picture of Shin Ra in FF7R … I don’t remember which UA-camr posted it (I was watching a lot from Blitz at the time though)… it was during the build up to the anniversary event where they dropped Ever Crisis and Crisis Core Reunion news… I can’t remember which video exactly though sorry
It’s in a UA-camrs video named “Dashing David”
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This is the dopest fam theory for final fantasy I’ve ever heard … this is an automatic subscribe.. dope bro.. final fantasy 7 is my favorite game and just imagining lore that leads back to this gets me so excited!!!! Fire bro!!
There is another way they could have escaped If I remember correctly the lifestream has a fail-safe called Omega just in case the Planet is in danger of dying , all of the souls are taken to another planet to start over If FF10 is in the same universe as 7 then Spira should have a similar fail-safe.
yep!!! I briefly mention it
Spira dosnt the far plain is its vr of the life stream and doesn't influence the physical world outside of sin
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You've just described remake lol. I fully believe that remakes ending will be the omega ending. That's the only way to stop jenova completely. I hope I'm right lol. ✌️🤝✨️
isnt that spirits within?
It actually makes sense. there was way to much mystery surrounding those figures she transformed into and she was in fact never sent .So we were left with a big wtf and most people didnt seem to catch it but it always bothered me . great vid def got me seeing the games in a whole new light. 7 and 10 did have a ton of parallels and similarities I didn't consider. ❤
But remember, a being having multiple forms doesn't have to abide by any means. I could find some similarities that Hojo was heavily influenced by Yu Yevon. The video was interesting but it was reaching very far.
@@raz9305 No not really lol
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The biggest connection is "shinra".
Jenova even looks very similar to lady yunalesca ! hair colour, features, etc.!
The breast size looks the same also
It's the other way around since ff7 was made first
There's also the fact that Yunalesca's ideals and thoughts are similar to Sephiroth regarding death, the afterlife etc. When playing this and streaming for a friend, she pointed out that Yunalesca was like a more or less watered down Sephiroth with the way she talked about 'liberation' and other things related to how death was inevitable.
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thanks for the reupload. listened to the original and thought it was well done. glad others will have a better listening experience
Thank you!!! When I did the editing of the original it sounded fine but it was significatly quieter than my others so I re-released it becaus this is my favorite theory I've created!!! Thanks for watching!!!
Well, look deeper into the connections between the games. Nojima and Kitase have, through interviews and Ultimania guides, made it clear that the Spirans landed on the Planet of FF7, and the Shinra company came from Shinra the man who attempted to draw out mako energy from the farplane using that giant robotic thing that starts with a V.
In anycase, your theory cannot be true though.
1. Spira in the world of 10 and even within the ultimania, is never destroyed or absorbed.
2. Spirans arrived on the Planet of FF7 1000 years prior to events, meaning even the events of FF10 are before the events of Jenova arriving on the Planet of FF7. Roughly 100~200 years after events in FFX-2.
3. Jenova arrived in FF7 2000 years prior to events. So roughly the same time as Yunalesca summoned Sin, and began the church of Yu Yevon.
Essentially Yunalesca was alive and Zanarkand was destroyed just before, or at the same time as Jenova's landing. So they're parallel to one another, and have similar traits. However Yunalesca's existence was all about spirit in the farplane, and controlling the cycle of Sin.
It's an interesting theory, but it cannot hold water given raw timeline data. You could say there is a strange coincidence, since both were mostly written by Nojima. Though unlike Yunalesca, Jenova was inspired by the ideas proposed by the Xenogears creator, and I wonder if he either spent time reading Berserk or watched The Thing, because the nature of Jenova has elements of both, while Deus is machine that can alter its form into flesh and return back to machine, while Jenova is more like a physical biological being where all cells are also Jenova and also carry her will and thoughts, yet she can absorb the planet's energy...so I guess a bit of Lavos as well.
By the time of Yunalesca, we have something more purely specific to Nojima's intentions, and likely his personal way of expressing the same thing in his own vision (there were so many people who worked on FF7, you have to remember the original game was a Noir mystery set in a New York City type of place, only with some steampunk, and Cloud was a detective, and Tifa his client). He definitely likes to focus on a direct interlaced connection between the physical and spiritual planes of existence with the spirit as having a physical presence ala the farplane and lifestream.
You definitely hit on some connections, and a nifty one for a first vid. Cheers.
Wasn't it originally Vincent's character that was the detective? And his name was Joe originally?
@@Pissoff254 lol yes!
Sephiroth was the detective.
@@Heymrk Where did you hear that?
It's a good theory I like it, plus Jenova's power to appear as peoples dead loved ones is basically like what happened when people see their loved ones on the Farplane, so there's that connection too.
Yet how does this theory account for the Jenova cells, after all as an unsent Yunalesca is just a being of pure energy?
Also quick question that's buzzing around in my head did Yunalesca and Yu Yevon get a power boost from the people of Spira and their faith in the Yevon religion?
I like the idea Minerva is the Goddess protector of Planet and Jenova is the goddess is the Destroyer of planets for the Universe. Jenova's goal is to kill old planets. There is interesting parallels between the two of them. Like Minerva has the Life Stream and Jenova has the Anti - or negative life stream. And the interaction of the two stream seams like dualistic forces of the universe.
I wish there was more lore on Minerva. I don't think she is in the FF7 universe outside of crisis core
@@finalfantasytheory she only appears in CC and maybe AC. In AC and Dirge of Cerberus is the negative life stream explaining it is an an agent of Chaos. Linking Chaos and Jenova. Which maybe links someone how to Sin. I am not sure.
@@finalfantasytheory What is the point of this nonsensical video??? What is Jenova has been explained by the original final fantasy 7 lore.
Stop making stupid videos where you try to fish for views and comments by creating silly topics and tricking people into talking about it.
Its like when i would make a video with the claim/ theory that the sun is just a lightbulb... and then watch how people debate and argue this in the comment section while also some would call me stupid... but hey i create views and comments..
Any way stop it.
@@sonicrocks2007 Hmmmm "Chaos".... Stranger of paradise anyone?... A lot of Final Fantasy games are connected to each other.
Minerva is considered the avatar of the planet, and this the planet itself manifesting.
The fact she speaks with and cures genesis of his degradation means that he is the only known non cetra to have communed with the planet.
Let that one sink in
It make sense when you explain it.
There's also a possibility that Jenkva is a spawn or Lavos
I also think that Chrono trigger and FF7 are in the same continuity. There are a ton of similarities in worldbuilding and how planets function and time travel works in both series.
This theory is now headcannon to me, as the part about VII and X being related has been headcannon to me for a long time. Awesome theory.
VII and X are almost certainly related. There are way too many parallels. They even played into this in the FFVII remake by playing the Luca/Blitzball theme in the item shop in the slums when Cloud is doing side missions with Tifa. And the whole Sphere/Materia/Shinra Connection. It has to be the same "world."
@@jamescollierii8499 they are connected officially, spirans, post ffx2, left spira led by shinra the boy genius who figured out how to use the far plane.
He led the spirans to what would be known as gaia.
The spirans are the ones who displaced the native inhabitants of gaia, the cetra, and set up shinra electric and power.
However in canon this occurred post jenova crash iirc.
But this is canon according to nojima and the ultimania.
In fact a lot of materia purification processes are derived from notes shinra made back on spira about spheres
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Id love to see your channel grow dude! Awesome concept !
Same lol
Here’s a FF theory: FF7 and Chrono Trigger occur in the same universe.
-Both have world destroying space parasites that give people superpowers and can distort the flow of time. Even their goals are the same: Find a world, absorb all the life there, and leave to consume more worlds.
-Both series have time travel and alternate universes.
-Both have sentient planets that have a will and can control the flow of time and fate to a certain extent.
-those planets both try to wipe out humanity for their lack of harmony with the planet.
I always loved the idea of linking Final Fantasy stories together.
Great video!!!
Glad you liked it!
I want to expand on this theory considering I had the same exact one last night. Yunalesca is also a powerful Sorceress. As is Jenova. I think the being that gave Ultimecia her powers is the same one in various games. The female just stays female. JENOVA IS either Yunalesca, or Ultimecia, or a body hopping sorceress. Which would explain sephiroths white hair genetically. Also his one black wing. Ultimecia has 2 black wings and White hair. Considering Sephiroth can use powerful magic and has one black wing because he is half human. It’s starting to appear as though Jeova could be Ultimecia. Ultimecia also created Fenrir, the most powerful GF. Why couldn’t she take that power to spira? To save spira, to heal spira. Seymour is just another product of the virus that Jenova spread. An Evil Cloud of Darkness. Personified and reincarnated over and over. A huge huge note is Yunalesca and Ultimecia have WHITE HAIR. You know who else has white hair? Garland. And Kuja. It could be highly possible that Jenova was created by Terrans to find planets to merge crystals. And as they lose potential champions like Garland and Jenova. They make more to take the place. Which could be why Sephiroth even exists. She could have influenced Hojos mind to create Sephiroth in order to take the planet back to the Terrans. Which would make sense why most antagonists is trying to go for the Crystals and warriors of light need to defend those Crystals. It said Kefkas mind was fractured when he absorbed the Espers powers. Which leads me to believe he was possessed by Zeromus when he lost his mind. Filled with hate and evil. Which could at the end of the day just be Chaos in disguise. But I think when the emperor split in the 2nd game “like Xehenort in Kingdom hearts” he created 2 antagonist lines. Angels and Demons of the void. I think the white hair could be some type of Alien genetics that come from the Emperors Angel side. as Angels but are evil asf. Like a family tree. If they aren’t the same people, they’re related somehow. “Created by a supreme being like our God and given names like Angels, then fall, like Angels” Jenova literally was “a falling star” But the antagonist tree is split between Angels and Void Beasts like Necron, Zeromus, Ex death void tree, etc. Dissidia is obscure and seemed like a way to cash grab at all the Characters in one game. Considering g the story is just silly and re used. I don’t think it was even contemplated during the OG writing for the original games. But they WERE written and created pretty much back to back. Which leaves room to believe it to be possible that they did want the antagonists to be connected some how.
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Alot of truth in this post i think
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Imagine Sin being an hidden superboss in FF7R part 3, emerging from the sea after you defeat all the WEAPONS.
It doesn't need a story explanation just a cool secret superboss, like Dark Penance in FFX.
Also, the black materia was created by the cetra, but after creating it the refused to use it after underestimating it's destructive capabilities.
Or Jenova made it. She could disguise herself and tricked the cetra at first. Kinda like Sauron did to the elves
New timeline the Gi created it. I think Jenova is a summon of the black materia in the FF7Remake/Rebirth timeline that the Gi ultimately summoned. What im leaning towards after finishing Rebirth 😅
This was amazing. It is also what I will be using going forward lol
glad you liked it!!!!!
Great video!!
Actually Yunalesca is Goddess Sophia from Final Fantasy 6, the centerpiece of the Warring Triad.
I don't know how I'd feel about Yunalesca getting absorbed by Kefka.
Yeah now I'm going to be thinking about this all damn day. Going to have to play the original games again.. make a comparison and have to start drawing a Ven Diagram and a few Power Points!
Any reason to get someone to play the original haha
Been doing more thinking. Emperor Palamecia and Ultamecia have “ecia” at the end of their name. Which can be relational. Further evidence would be they have the same hair in the shape of horns. She’s either his daughter, who escaped that time by learning and mastering time magic. Or his granddaughter with an inspired name. Or it also could just be that Hyne guy in disguise. But I’m not sure. The connections are incredibly noticeable and intriguing though.
Good catch!
Or you could just say that you think they are wrong. Then again if you were capable of that, you could probably have made that comment actually funny.
Yuna won't stop dancing
Just stumbled upon this video... I hadn't thought about this before.
In thr FFVII ULTIMANIUM OMEGA released several years ago, there were a lot of plot points and details revealed that the writers for FFVII wanted to reveal (long before the remake came out.) In that book they did state that VII and X were in the same universe and that Shinra DID develop space travel after the events of X2.
But Yunalesca following them to Gaia is a really cool concept!
I saw someone else made a point that the Omega weapon "failsafe" should have existed on Spira if it existed on Gaia, but I would say that it was created by the planet itself, perhaps with the knowledge of what happened to Spira. A countermeasure of sorts.
Anyway excellent video! Keep it up!
That would explain the Ronso tribe, maybe they are the descendants of Red XIII/Nanaki.
Other way around, but yeah
This is a very interesting theory. I've never thought about this. I have thought about FFX/X-2 taking place before even the age of the Cetra and Spira was Gaia of the past, but not this far. I never noticed that masked guy in FF7R either. I'm curious to see if we get more answers in FF7 Rebirth.
With Nomura at the helm I'm certain of it ^_^
Well spira and gaia are definitely not the same planet, shinra from x2 and cid highwind took a group of spirans out to space and the eventually landed on gaia post jenova, being the ancestors of the non cetra humans on gaia
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@@finalfantasytheory I will!
One thing to add to expand on this theory is the attack supernova shows world of FF7 accrues on "earth" the ending a FF13-3 show all the "uncorrupted" soles from Etros are taken from the crystalis world brought to earth and form the life-stream linking even more of the games
its funny, the games are connected in a deeper way.
when they were testing the battle system out tidus had a unique sword during that time.
it was none other than clouds buster sword.
Dude this is mindblowing!
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This does make a lot of sense actually. It does help bridge the gap between the two games. Ever since we were told that shinra in X-2 was the ancestor of Rufus I always wondered if there were more connections and this video will become my new head canon until FF7 remake is fully completed lol.
Dude it's just a prank that Yoshinori said FFX and FFVII are in the same world
Wow, just imagine a FFX Remake with a alternative Timeline like the FF7 Remake. I would actually love to see what would happen and what could be different.
@@shuyintidus6246 It wasn't a prank. Also, world is the wrong term. FFX and FFVII exist in the same universe but diff planets.
@@brendanfrost2475 do you have a prove?
@@shuyintidus6246 proof is on UA-cam. FFX is FF7’s Past.
They did say in one of the Ultimania’s that X could be a prequel to VII but thousands of years apart so this could definitely be possible. They never outright said that was the case either but it’s still fun to think about. Sure it could make the story messy but Final Fantasy is not a stranger to that, unless I have to remind people that the first Final Fantasy now has two prequels with three completely different origins for Chaos and Tactics having in game evidence of being in the distant future of XII.
Well, with Nomura messy comes with the terrain (and I love that)
I am pretty sure Shinra was confirmed by Nomura to be the originator of the company Shinra as well. Now rather or not Jenova is Yunalesca, I dont know, but I like this theory.
There is a lot that can link all of them to the same world if you want to honestly (without using Dissidia or 14 which makes it super easier.) with exception to 2, 8, and 12 not being easily linked to any and 13/15 which due to their nature of originally being in the same world can easily still link, but not being easily linked to others, I am pretty sure the rest can all be linked in some form with very little stretches. I would not be surprised if one day these worlds were all linked to be the same, just many many years apart, long enough to have some event change maps, etc.
Ill do a fast run down, but this is the long part so feel free to not go any further, also you can link them easy enough but figuring out a timeline is a lot harder.
1 - links to 9 easily, many of the same locations, and bosses, and even music though that isnt a solid link.
2 - I cant link 2 easily to anything unless you want to go off the very loosely based bit that Mysida is also in 4 and like 2 a town entirely of mages.
3 - you could consider the people of the floating continent to be the lufenians from 1, which would make this a prequel, if you loop in 14 it is for sure the old floating continent that crashed.
4 - only easily linkable thing here is there are 2 moons, 9 also has 2 moons, now that is a very weak link, but it could be a sequel to 9 if you consider that the moon you visit in 4 might be the other moon in 9. This could link it to 1, and link 2 in as well because of Mysidia but 2 is hard to link. One other loose thing I can think of, this is the only other appearance of the Magus sisters I can think of prior to 10, so they could be one and the same perhaps.
5 - This is another of the bit a stretch ones, consider if the moon from 4 came back as it did in After Years and it was the second planet that Galuf is from, now loosely populated again. Exdeath desires the power of the void, (stretch part) Cloud of Darkness according to Dissidia, is also connected to the void, therefore he may be seeking her power or something similar anyway. At any rate he gains access to the void power and the planets become merged so now the moon is gone never to have another second moon. Mind you he is also an evil tree, he could be the Lifa tree from 9 further corrupted or something. One more loose connection 3 and 5 are the only classic games to have a job system, and they have very similar jobs available, some that arent available elsewhere, it is weak, but could be a potential link.
6 - just about the only other game with a floating continent, which guess what, was sunk by kefka. That could be the same floating continent from FF3 and this could be what sinks it in FF14 and why it isnt present elsewhere. Other links that might be present, Gogo, only in 5 and 6 is there a Gogo, and a mention in FFT I think, that could be a link but if so Gogo is most definitely not human and likely has a very long life. Moogles, one of the few games to have moogles as an actual race and not just some mascot or decoration, sure that one is loose but it ties it 3, 5, and 9 pretty easily, and even 12 fairly easily as these are the ones they are an actual living race with multiple members of their race present.
7 - We know the connection here is 10, you could tie 7 to 3 as well though if you consider that Desh is an Ancient, is it the same "Ancients" I don't know but they are similar and he is one, could also explain where the moogle idea comes form in the video game in the golden saucer and cait sith's doll he rides as they were a race then and by now seem to be more a mythical race in game. Outside of that you might consider materia and magicite similar enough to maybe be related at some point, but that is a stretch. Also you could say Red XIII might be a Moomba from 8 which would tie it to 8, so I will move on to 8.
8 - Like I said this one is hard to tie to anything else really, Red is your best link being Moombas very much resemble him and at some point in their life cycle become a thing that resembles his grandpa. So 8 could be a distant sequel to 7, maybe. The only other thing you can really link the game to others is honestly Gilgamesh, that Gil is the same as the Gil from 5, confirmed. He came though a rift though, so it may be the same world as 5 or it could just be extra dimensional rift which is an easy cop out. 8 is the hardest to tie to a unified world theory.
9 - links to 1 easy, see above, likewise possible 5.
10 - confirmed before 7, but connected due to Shinra
11 - I never played this one so honestly no clue about it, but its an MMO, if we count those, im sure it has references like 14 does to many, making it easy enough to link.
12 - links to tactics and even vagrant story if I remember the correct game that also had Ivalice mentioned, at any rate it is the first one to have the zodiac summons as you could call them instead of the traditional FF pantheon. They are confirmed the zodiac stones though as if you look at them before the fight they have the symbols. Now this one is hard to link to anything else though, it sort of floats about in its own thing. You might consider 12-2 had a floating continent and go off that maybe, and again maybe the moogle thing could link it to 3 solidly, but eh. You could go the FF14 route and link it through there, which if we count MMOs is confirmed connected to 3 as well and 6 in story, and also technically all of them through a mutliverse thing but we are trying to connect them all to one world. Also Gilgamesh... again.
13 - This one is also sort of hard, and im only going off the first 13, but if you consider this slightly wild theory that the war of the magi could be FF13, then it works. War of the magi is between their three deities, FF13 is clearly having a war between 2 different factions, at least, of fal'cie, godlike beings who can enslave things and force them to fight for their goals. The 2 factions for sure we know of are the more natural fal'cie and the more mechanical ones, and if you notice they tend to be geared towards the two pantheons of FF, the natural ones mostly are from the OG series pantheons, with the less natural ones in cocoon mostly being from the newer pantheon (since 12) If you consider there could be a neutral faction or a third, this could easily fit into being the war of the magi and that would tie this to 6.
14 - is an MMO, too easy. But we have the floating continent in story mind you that came crashing down, the three warring spirits from the war of the magi and kefka himself, crystal tower, exdeath, cloud of darkness, many things form 12 and tactics. Very easily can tie into those with 14. Also Gilgamesh is Yojimbo apparently.
15 - originally part of 13's world before they scrapped that idea, however if you look at the La'cie and Noct's ring, the ring of Lucii, pretty obvious that is kind of tied to the same world, few hundred years without them being too present and the name could easily be changed and spelled differently. The hexatheon are all pretty much natural la'cie too if you think about it. That meteor TItan is holding could easily have been the remains of cocoon. Other than that, Gilgamesh again, he lost an arm to Cor but could very likely be the same guy
@@sparemobius7430 I’ve always liked the theory that all the games take place on different planes that are somehow connected via The Void. In The Void is the Mothercrystal, which spreads vague concepts through every world, leading to the similar themes, monsters, and magic in each plane. Travel through the void between planes is possible but difficult on its own, we see examples of things like the moons of 4, or the meteors of 5, the Iifa Tree’s roots extending into the void to link Gaia and Terra in 9. All of this to say, some games feature multiple planes, and it wouldn’t be impossible for some ancient Spiran tech to fly through The Void and reach FF7’s Gaia.
Dungeons and Dragons has a similar setting, once you get out into space, and FF can trace its origins back from that, if nothing else.
@@sparemobius7430 You've got a nice theory and all, but it works even better if you think of it like FFXIV's shards thing. You could say they're all just different iterations of the same world, with the twist that some of them take place on the same iteration as another, except they actually exist as places you can get to through if you go into space or use a voidgate, and are not quantum-transposed on top of each in physical space, unlike FFXIV's shards. It's canon that all FF games are connected through the void specifically featured in FFV in some capacity, after all. Sure, it's been reused since then, most prominently in dissidia and XIV, but the one in dissidia is explicitly the one from FFV, and the one in FFXIV is explicitly a misnomer on purpose, as the FFV void does still exist there too, and you even travel through part of it multiple times during the story.
Also, for the record FFXIV's entire setting is unstable as hell by (re)design. It was basically a requirement that they redid the lore that had yet to be established to save the game from the XI-2 status the original developer team had tried to condemn it to. A consequence of that was that at least part of most FF games' plot has happened over the history of FFXIV's world. Hell some of it is literally ongoing in the modern day:
FF3-We explicitly played through the endgame sequence in ARR.
FF4-Current plot heavy spoilers involving Golbez.
FF5-The warriors of the dawn are explicitly involved in the eureka story and Krile Baldesion is in our main circle. Also, Gilgamesh
FF6-We sort of aborted things twice over
FF7-WEAPONS AND MATERIA
FF8-a truncated version plays out in the eden raids
FF11 is literally happening at the same time over on their side of things
FF12 is implied to be starting as the ivalice raids end, and pairing off with that...
FFT explicitly played out in some way or another in the past
FF13's first act was going on during ARR's post-release patches
FF15 is going on in some capacity post ARR, too.
As for the games I didn't mention, or want to elaborate on:
FF1, Omega had data on Chaos, and the Warrior of Light was a primal, so something went on there
FF2... Let's wait for the final act of pandaemonium to drop before I complain about how it's all plot elements and no actual characters since maybe they'll throw FF2 fans a bone and make the final act a proper FF2 reference in addition to the lore based raid we were promised
FF4 is stuck in spoiler limbo, as I said, but there are a TON of elements from it, from characters, to plot elements in endwalker, and likely there will be more to come since Endwalker is basically the FF4 expansion
FF9 doesn't really have much to speak of involved currently tbh but at least the music is there and it SLAPS
FF10... I think all we have is cosmetics, and also Gilgamesh showed up as Yojimbo but I can barely qualify that... Though if Gilgamesh actually IS also now canonically Yojimbo outside of XIV, that would be pretty funny.
And I think that covers everything, currently.
Gilgamesh as well. He was sent into the void by Ex-Death and went into different games as a result looking for Bartz
yunalesca has parents human parents from zanarkand. Jenova is a space alien that travels though space eating the life force of planets.
if Yunalesca traveled from Spira across the cosmos to Gaia, would that not make her an alien?
Cool theory but honestly doesn’t hold much weight imo. Mainly because Jenova came from space. Yunalesca was born, raised and died in spira (twice). It bringseven more thoughts once you start thinking about summoners that existed before yunalesca and yu yevon (for reference look towards the novel that takes place between final fantasy x-2 and final fantasy X - will
I don't agree with Yunalesca dying twice. The x-2 death is a sub mission not required for even the perfect ending and she doesn't talk so how do we know it isn't just a shade? a figment of the pyreflies?
Nice theory! I wonder if developers had something in mind with the Shinra character in X-2 or that was supposed to be just an easter egg.
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I like this. It's not an unlikely theory either as it's pretty clear there's plenty of overlap in the Final Fantasy games. Even basic concepts like the Lifestream and chocobo's, so why not this either? It'd actually be really interesting to expand on it like that. Great video.
I love this! This makes so much sense. I always thought from the start, that ff10 and ff7s world was either the same, or in the same universe. Excellent video 🎉
I somewhat agree with this theory. And the remake of ff7 makes me believe it more. There are what i can only explain as pyreflies all throughout ff7 especially during the ending of rebirth. Perhaps visions of zack and aerith from beyond the grave are basically their unsent forms, they were just too pure to become monsters.
I think it's more likely that Jenova is something like a Maenad from ff4tay since she serves a similar function to those entities.
I don't find this particularly convincing.
For one, the culture of the Cetra is pretty dissimilar from the culture of Spira -- even of summoners. Summoners usher the dead to the Farplane, while the Cetra were migratory tribes who cultivated nature to help strengthen the planet's lifestream. These are two very different things, and there's no particular reason the "senders" from Spira would've figured out that that's how that works.
In Bugenhagen's planetarium, he explains the way the lifestream works as if it's true for all planets, and that Jenova is a parasite that feeds on planets' lifestreams. This isn't how Spira worked at all. There was no purported lifecycle in Spira where energy from the lifestream cycled itself into new life over and over. This indicates that the two stories exist in entirely different universes.
I'm not sure how you expect Yunalesca to figure out where the people of Spira fled to. Space is a big place.
As for similarities in attire, cultures change drastically over time. How similar are the clothes we use now compared with that of 2000 years ago? The Jenova survivors who became not-Cetra over 2000 years didn't have the ongoing Sin slaughters and a regressive religion to lock them into a time period. Things would've changed.
Jenova is far more similar to Lavos from Chrono Trigger than it is to Yunalesca from FFX.
With all of that said, I do think this is a creative theory, and I'm glad other people in the comments enjoyed it.
1: The calamity FROM THE SKY!!!... "she" is an alien from an other world...
2: the shape of the continents... (i know that continents can change... but that much in such a short time???)
3: what happened to the Ronso??
4: what Hypellows and Guados became???
5: London, Paris, Rome, Cario, Tenochtitlan, Machu Picchu, Jerusalem... so many more cities in our world that are older than 1 000 years old... i mean... the city of Damascus in Syria is supposed to be the oldest city that is still active... it is 11 000 years old... so at least 10 times older than Bevelle or Luca... Argos (Greace) is still there and it is 7 000 years old...
so... that ask the question: if FF7 is realy just that small 1 000 years after the time of Yuna... peoples of FF7 should know a bit about blitzball... at least have some references in their culture or expressions... they should have ruins of thoses BIG cities... or something that remind of the ancien past where Zanarkand was in ruins... or mention of Sin... something... no... it is just and only a "easter egg"...
... the only way it could be truth in some way... it would be that there is about 5 000 or 10 000 years... even 30 000 years between them to match...
who is to say? I can maybe craft some theories from those questions!
If I may chime in: 1- legend that was created to hide/obfuscate her true origin
2- natural disasters
3- Ronso could have gone extinct or devolved into another race or monsters
4- see above
5- good points, however keep in mind for years Troy wasn't believed to be a real city, and not all traditions are kept. Another parallel I can draw is Akenathen, Tutankamens father who they tried to erase from history mainly by trying to enforce monotheism.
Again, these are my two cents.
I hope 7 and 10 gets a cross-over game. That would be dope. Two of the best FF (imo) coming together would be amazing.
The French translation is currently unavailable. I can't wait for her to be available to discover all this. 🤗
I'll let you know when I've seen the video.
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I added the french subtitles, it is auto translated with youtube so hopefully it is right!!!!
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It is not yet time for slumber, we still have much work to do.
If it can be logically explained that 7 and 10 are linked, I'm all for it, love the Meta theories.
But we still have a very big plot hole in this theory. If the person Shinra in 10 founded the Shrina company in 7, and the residents of Spira arrived in Gaia nearly 2K years before 7, then that would imply that the Shinra company itself was 2K years old (with a ridiculously long and well preserved photographic history), or the person from 10 was an immortal that founded the company 2K years later.
The FF7 history is pretty clear that the company, was at the least, insignificant about 5 or so decades before 7.
The second option also lends itself as an extraordinary and unlikely claim, especially if one considers how or if the person Shinra managed to die or vanish after waiting 2K years to found the company.
I think it can be argued Jenova(Yunalesca) devastated the world when she arrived. Just like sin did to spira and thus put their tech back to the stone age
Disagree, Sin doesn’t feed on Spira’s life stream. Large scale destruction actual leaves life energies to linger & collect i.e. the pyerflies. Zanarkand was a city of summoners at war with Bevelle & its growing threat of machina. That is why Sin is compelled to attack machina. Yu yevon used the faythe of the dream to create Sin. Yunalesca used the final aeon of her husband Zaon to defeat Sin. Starting the cycle of destruction in Spira. Yu yevon attaches itself to the final aeon at the moment of Sins defeated allowing Sin to be reborn. Yunalesca unsent stayed in Zanarkand to guide summoners in creating the final aeon and ensuring the cycle’s continuation. The 10 year calm being the only reprieve from Sin’s destruction.
But, Anima has a striking resemblance to Ultimecia.
This theory does not make sense to me at all. it'd ned a lot of retconning to work. Yunalesca was relentless and willing to kill the party for trying to look for an option because she has been there for a THOUSAND years and no one was able to do it before . She sacrificed herself and the love of her life to save Spira. She also didn't become an unsent because she didn't accept her fate. She did it so she could make the final aeon for the next summoners and help bring the calm to the world.
Her method was wrong but in her head she was trying to save the world, she wouldn't try to destroy it. In fact she apologizes to Zaon because with her dying, she tought thee world would be doomed and his sacrifice would have been for nothing. Every action of hers in the story was directed to help Spira. So to me it wouldn't make sense for her to do what she needed to do in order for your theory to be true.
Also Jenova is called "The Calamity of the Skies" because she came like a meteor from outer space.
When she landed on the Planet the northern crater was formed.
So if u pay attention in FF7R the road from sector 6 to sector 5 has the same song or very very close to the song in Macalania Woods in FFX.. I could be reaching but you check it out and let me know.
There's a problem with this though... Gaia and Spira are thousands of years apart according to Kitase. There wouldn't be any way for the Summoners of Spira to interact with the Cetra of Gaia. The only one who would leave Spira and travel space would be Shinra, likely using machina to preserve his body until he was able to land on Gaia and start a family.
Very interesting theory. And a very dark and kinda sad one too if true.
I've always wondered like it's counterpart the White Materia which summons Holy, was the Black Materia being able to summon Meteor also some sort of (excessive) failsafe for the Planet to defend against other threats? What was it's purpose? Like, maybe the Ancients saw it as the only thing powerful enough to kill Jenova (say, in a scenario that the WEAPONs and Holy wasn't enough and failed), despite the world going with it, and they planned to have Omega Weapon absorb the Lifestream and leave for another planet elsewhere now that this cosmic threat was dealt with?
You know, like "nothing else has worked, this 'Jenova' is going to kill us all anyway and then move to another planet to repeat the process, so we may as well summon Meteor as the endgame. We and our world may perish, but at least we can spare other worlds from this evil...". Even then, this would have to be planned out well in advance as it takes approximately 2 weeks for Meteor to destroy it's target (as was the case when Sephiroth summoned it)... 🤔
Though it would suck if within those 2 weeks they actually managed to stop Jenova somehow but then had a magical planetoid coming to destroy them soon after lol. Though I like to think given that the Ancients created the Black Materia, they also naturally had a way to stop it/cancel it aside from using Holy. 😅
IDK, the black materia is a hard one. I've heard that theory a few times and it holds weight but I also find it hard to believe the ancients would intentionally destroy the planet. Plus a two week window for a powerful cosmic being to escape is huge.
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Petition to make this official canon.
would be badass!!!!
Its a nice theory
This would be something easy to add in their universe
I feel like Jenova was an Omega from another world, after watching Dirge of Cerberus. Only this world already had life, so it set forth exterminating it to make way for its own planet's life.
Biggest issue I can poke into this theory is that it both relies on the Al Bhed to be possible while also ignoring that they would have had the tech (hypothetically) to obliterate Jenova, which does not fit with what we know the humans did when Jenova arrived. Humans survived because they hid. The cetra fought Jenova and were nearly wiped out, only managing to seal the alien in some kind of rock tomb.
To put this into context the Junon cannon is arguably the most powerful artillery on the planet in FF7. The Al Bhed were packing heat similar to that on *airships* in FFX before the time skip.
Jenova is my favorite villain in FF series but there's no way a single unsent is going to cause the steampunk technomancers to cower in fear when they were willing and able to scrap with Sin.
Sin was a single unsent, bound with a fraction of the farplane power. If Yunalesca absorbed all of the farplane as Jenova intended to do with Gaia's life stream, then it stands to reason that Yunalesca/Jenova could fight off technology.
you know? The approximate timing of Jenova's meteorfall does line up with my own theory that Yunalesca is Unei (from FF3, Unei being a shortening of Yunalesca as Yunie was a nickname for Yuna). Since FF7R had confirmed that Shinra (FFX-2) was a known ancestor of the current era Shinra family, FFX should already be on Gaia (as interviews have stated). However in FF3's timeframe the Crystal Tower on mount Gulg was on Terra (this is where Unei died and became an Unsent/undead), however that same Crystal Tower is on the top of Mount Gagazet in FFX-2. Thanks to FF9's Garland we do know that Mount Gulg was transplanted from Terra to Gaia in order to create a flow of Terran Souls into Gaia. Further we do know that Unei was the protector of the Dream Realm in FF3 as well as an apprentice to High Summoner Noah. So if Unei were to have sunk one of the floating continents after the Crystal Tower was transplanted to Gaia (by FF9's Garland), that would fit Jenova's title Calamity of the Sky and be present at the correct general timeframe (of 2000 years before FF7)
I am reasonably sure it's mentioned Jenova has devoured *many* worlds.
Sephiroth knew about the black materia because he absorbed the vast knowledge of the ancients while within the lifestream.
Barring a retcon in FF7R, Sephiroth is actually the one controlling Jenova.
it's never mentioned how many worlds she has gone to. Yes Sephiroth controlled Jenova, this doesn't disprove the theory. Especially because Jenova controlled Sephiorth in the beginning until his death in which as you said, he absorbed the knowledge and power of the lifestream. Recall in 10 Seymour intended to learn how to control Sin but was killed/sent before he could.
@@finalfantasytheory I don't think any of the games ever claim Jenova directly controlled Sephiroth during the Nibelheim incident, although I tend to think being in such close proximity must at least have been responsible for activating the latent instincts he'd inherited from her.
Tetsuya Nomura's own personal position is quite the opposite; Sephiroth's mental instability was entirely his own, and Jenova never had any power over him at all aside from the instinct to devour all life one world at a time. Kinda checks out when you consider who his father was. Walking mass of complexes indeed.
The above being said, the instinct manifested in Sephiroth as a desire to devour the lifestream on world after world until he has surpassed the natural order. In other words, it's a way to attain immortality proper, as he understands that each planet--or rather the lifestream within it--is merely a small droplet in a cosmic lifestream.
Anywho, to be clear, I don't necessarily think your theory is implausible. It's entirely plausible. I would be quite pleased if you were to be correct. I was just point some things out.
Well, this is true now...
This is a great theory. I have heard the theories of 10 and 7 being connected/taking place on the same planet with like 1000 years in between.
Great video😊
already confirmed by yoshinori kitase himself that VII and X are cannonically connected someway or another like in 2017 :) and no most likely not same planet but planets failsafe that transfers all the souls to other planet
That was a good theory! Get yourself VoiceMeeter (It's free) or just add a compressor on what ever you record audio with
I've gotten a much better microphone and learning on new ways to record better, looking for noise reduction like tik tok has to take out any feedback in the background
The producers of both games have already said that spira(ffx) is the past of ff7 world. So the connect is already made and confirmed. Yunalesca being jenova could make sense and is a good theory.
This theory needs to be made canon! An animation starting with the world prior to the destruction of Zanarkind, then leading you through the events of X and X-2, then the migration to Gaia and starting a new life, to the arrival of Yunalesca and the battle with the Cetra, then finally the events of 7, connecting to Advent Children. You can easily get several seasons out of that, and maybe a few more games so you can play along with what you're watching. The games themselves could be straight up linear to match the animation with just enough room left for personalization/customization. That way you can make choices according to personal preference but all roads still lead to the same destination. Someone tell Square to get on this!
That's a fun one too watch.
One funny idea that I had early on in FF7R is that Landlady Marle is Princess Nadia (ie Marle) from Chrono Trigger. The only connections between the two are a stretch, at best; they both wear their hair in a high ponytail (although living in the slums for 50 years did contribute to more than a little frizzing and hair damage), both hold a position of authority, and when she threatens Cloud, there's that sense that she'll back it up (but then again, I'm sure she's had more than a few bad tenants over the decades). I'm content with just passing it of as a coincidence but as the plot progresses, the fractured timeline/multiverse/nomura-ism is brought closer to the surface. Even though I'm just having fun with it and they likely are just distinctly different and separate characters that only share a common name, I still like to think this is a little nudge from S-E hinting that plot continuity is going to be getting a little weird.
That explains remake - a future sephiroth traveled back through time like auron did!
Wow, this is awesome
thank you!!!
I don't think that VII and X are connected that way. I think it's Sqaure Enix just giving a nod to the various games in the series, like having someone called Cid or having Biggs and Wedge. Not to mention the art style used in series both in concept and final release follow a certain trend which can lead all kinds of folk down the rabbit hole.
The Buster Sword was a cut weapon in FFX, so maybe there’s something there
remember my videos are fun what ifs. Not creating new canon
Problems with this theory are that Final Fantasy 7 has specifically stated that materia can be naturally made in areas that have very high amounts of life stream energy.
If they make the knights of the round in the remake, the main characters of FFX and FFX2 it would be a conpletely circle of destiny. The old fighters come back as powerful summons to finally end it all
Theory: Emperor is Zalera and used Ultimecia to block, that is why her name is "mecia" in it, like his empire.
Real talk though, the Emperor and Ultimeica would be besties. They have a knack for the theatrics
Jenova didn't make the black materia, it was the Gi tribe. Not being native to gaia when they died their spirits didn't pass on because the lifestream didn't accept them. In hopes to end the cycle of being trapped they focused their malice in ordet to make the black materia, in hopes that if the planet gets destroyed they can finally move on. The ancients made holy in order to combat this
@Motor City Nerds you'll love this
More like "Yunalesca might be Jenova", considering what game came out 1st and there haven't been a lot of effort towards a connected "final fantasy universe" at that point, aside homages.
If the writers of X were infatuated with Jenova and wanted to give her a possible backstory - that's cool, but just hindsight. It's not realistic to suggest Jenova was so well planned or popular that they would decide to give her a proper origin... 3 games later.
Then why did they make a point to connect Shinra though.
Also during the time x2 Square is experimenting with the whole game sequel thing, who lnows if they kinda wanted to try to make a vonnected universe back then
remember these theories are in fun based on connections between the games that can be put together. I'm not creating a new canon. I'm giving a very good argument on a what if scenario that works.
They did say in one of the Ultimania’s that X *could* be a prequel to VII.
@@finalfantasytheory Remember that people are going to poke holes in all of your theories just like this. If you feel the need to post this kind of message each time people post valid issues or contrary views on your theories then you are not likely going to last long.
@@LainK1978 I don't mind people poking holes. What I do mind is people poking holes because they want to act like I am creating new canon which I'm not. If I wanted to create a theory that Cloud Strife is actually the male greek god of sex and love I can but that isn't me creating canon which is what some of the critics of my theory like to act like.
Maybe time dilation can explain the difference of years would account for the differences we see in both games. After all, space travel is complicated business.
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Seriously though, you made a damn good argument for this theory! Subscribing!
I appreciate it a lot! I'm glad so many like this video! As my channel gets bigger I hope to do stuff like Star Wars Theory and do give aways and stuff!!!
I agree with this theory to the point where I believe Sephiroth is an unsent. The summoners of old are gone no one can send him.
If genova is a parasitic entity that absorbs the planet energy, doesn't that make her more like Lavos from chrono trigger? If she is able to manipulate space and time like Lavos. That could mean that the people of Gaia it's actually the people of Spira without the memories o even better, they could be the dead people of Spira reincarnated in another planet and put on a recicling life and dead manner.
Jenova is based on ideas brought up by chrono triggers creator to nojima, so yes jenova is in a way based on lavos
Jenova isn't mad. She's cryptic and alien and incredibly cunning. It's also a real stretch to give Yunalesca all of these powers just because she 'got powerful' off screen. Would it be cool to turn an ancient enemy into THE enemy you fought in 10 and find out through fan theories 2 decades on? Sure.
But it doesn't quite match up. It's just a neat what if.
To my knowledge, Yunalesca is definitely not separate conscious entities capable of infecting and achieving independent (but conjoined) sentience in other organisms. She very much has an ego and an individual personality.
Jenova is characterised by mass infection, mass consumption and multiple conscious elements (most boss fights are conscious pieces of her original body).
Yunalesca is characterised by rigid ego, single-mindedness, and a very human form of manipulation and linear resurrection.
it is a neat what if. just like star wars theory does, I am coming up with what ifs based on existing lore. In 10 we see with Yu Yevon that too much absorbed power from the planet(farplane for Spira) that it causes a mental breakdown and you can exist only for one purpose.
I've been thinking about how 10 and 7 are interconnected ever since I saw that mask in ff7r. It turned a nod into a subtle tie in and made me look alot closer.
While I do not think Yunalesca is Jenova, I do believe that Jenova is another planet's Omega Weapon in search of a suitable host planet that was similar in size and geography to its own. After millenia drifting thru the Cosmos trying to find the perfect planet, it found one and injected itself into the planet in an attempt to do its job, to propagate its civilization. The result ended up a failure, the souls within it could not be absorbed by the strong vibrant lifestream already existing, so it had to make a choice. Find a way to leave, or force its way in (geo stigma). First, it had to merge with the living hosts and their spirits and then after enough death it would overwhelm the lifestream and allow the return of its original civilization. Essentially it's the same plan Garland had for Terra and Gaia!
this is legit because the monsters in ffx are also in ff7
Didn't scroll through the comments, but I actually commented on another video this too - I think Jenova became Sin, and your theory can also be incorped with it, what gave me this thought was when Aeriths' Mom was describing seeing their lost loved ones after something fell to the earth, which made me think they were either the souls or dreams like in FFX.
Since Jenova was defeated, they could not harness the life force still, so they stole dead souls, spirits and dreams and built over the millennia what is now Sin and their own form, Sin being their armour.
SO! What if the Ultimicea from FFVIII, snagged onto (unintentionally during the time hop) Yunalescas' spirit from FF X after she passed, she went back to FFVII, Jenova was immediately noticed by her and they learned how to develop Sin. Boom. I will most likely be back for an edit. lol Side note before I pressed save - and maybe Yunalesca, by the time they came into contact with Jeckt, maybe feeling guilt by this point, or maybe Jenova overcame her, she saw a way out and figured out how to teach the dead to dream, having seen herself come full circle, knowing what she becomes next and wanting to stop something.
Thanks for your video and hard work!
Makes sense to me!
SIN is a weapon like from ff7, to protect the planet but yu yevon possesed it, perhaps he was also an alien like jenova! Imagine lol the promised land always seemed to me like the farplane also
I hadn't thought of Sin as a weapon, that's a cool concept!
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT! Plus at the end of that FFX-2 novel sin is revived so Yunalesca may be as well plus she looks like Jenova.
What ffx novel?…
@@evangelineloves9 I did a quick Google. FFX 2.5
And it was written by nojima. So it likely canon
@@evangelineloves9 It's not a novel, its an audio story included in the ffx/ffx-2 remaster
Long story short: Auron has a kid? Tidus and Yuna have relationship problems and one or both are possibly cheating, and at the end -sin returns
@@yuugur666 seems stupid as hell
With this, is Aerith's ancestors the Cetra comes from the Summoner's lineage?
that would be my thinking. In 10 summoners called their aeons by using the pyre flies (lifestream) to bring the aeons to life
first sub with bell
Second jeah thats nice stuff
and I haven't even started the video yet
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Wow nice connecting of all the threads
Well thank you! I'm glad you appreciated the theory!
Spria and Gaia are the same planet this has been confirmed by the devs in an interview
I submit the theory that the ancients are able to commune with the planets due to guado blood, though seymore was the first guado human mix, it was only a matter of time before the guado were rewelcomed by the broader planets population, it is certain that the guado humans mixes would eventually become much more common, with humans being significantly more numberous, it's possible that they bred out most of thier physical traits over such a long time, but were still able to retain that knowledge and connection to the farplane
Seymour does share a lot with sephiroth
Ive been saying this for years
I don't think that scene is a memory because she turns into a giant basilisk and zaon is seen holding her fallen body after the fight then looking at the party before walking away
It wasn't clear and there was no dialogue. I took creative liberty because of their lack of detail on it lol
thanks for sharing this theory. You got me wondering now if these similarities are intentional or because the developers just kept sticking to certain themes throughout. One thing you've definitely aroused is the idea of just how much is connected in all of the title releases, because you could argue this began right from FF1. I say this because in Strangers Of Paradise FFO, there's a highly developed civilisation known as the Luferians who controlled a world via an agency called the Strangers, Jack being an agent sent to Cornelia to gain the political favour and control over that world who ultimately went rogue and began the events seen in the original FF1. Warriors of light could be cetra? who hold crystals that allow them to call forth power of that world...
it's giving me a lot to think about now... FF1 to FF5 all had the theme of crystals needing to be protected, but ended up getting broken, releasing a monster that was a threat to all life. FF3 was the Cloud Of Darkness... who's resemblance to Yunelesca/Jenova is very similar... There was in each of those titles a crossing into different dimensions or planets. FF6 is vague to me, but FF7 Jenova being FFX Yunelesca fits to me, well spotted. FF8's Ultimecia again displays strikingly similar features to what is being discussed here: a entity taking on the form of a female, able to bend time, go through dimensional rifts, travel through the cosmos on conquered worlds that she uses the energy to fuel her... FF9 fits this in some part too, although that's vague to me too. FF12 has the big crystal that I could imagine was the remnants of a "ark" that was used to travel through space seeking out another world full of energy to consume, which again we do see there being spirits who claim to be the order of things, attempting to control the course of humanity, which Amalia ends up realising as Reddas helps her come to her senses and destroys the sun-cryst. FF13 is vague to me, FF14 remains abit hit and miss of just revisiting all the stories and FF15 seems to deviate from this with the bloodline having a connection to their ancestors with a ring that they can call power from... but it's got me thinking if there is an intentional theme here to give more perceptive players some big "uh huh" moments, or if it is just all because of an effort to highlight that in our world, there is a dark reality about spirits being real, and how they do really have control of our current economical and political systems, who can manipulate whoever they find is easy to be manipulated because of not being able to be seen by the physical eye, who do ultimately want to go around consuming energy from people and wanting to drag everyone else down to their own soul condition, because that is something I can say is happening in our world. Anyway, good talk
I always wondered if there was a connection with the 2 Shinra companies 😮