For me it was the seamoth solar charger. I'm never taking that thing far enough away from my base for long enough to need to replace the power cell. By the time I can even get the upgrade, the battery situation is already taken care of by the moonpool you fabricate the upgrade with.
Another useless item in subnautica: the compass. I'll admit, it's useful when you're new, but if you're already somewhat familiar with the game you won't need it. You can get along just fine by using the aurora and your lifepod as reference points.
The seamoth solar charge is useful because you can use it to charge your power cells before you unlock the charger for your base. Its a niche use but I like it for early game.
@@Toastishott as far as I'm aware, the solar charger can only be crafted in the moonpool, which takes care of the battery situation by charging the battery when it's docked.
So you mean to tell me, that when I fought and killed a Reaper Leviathan in my Prawn suit, that those four hull reinforcement upgrades were POINTLESS?! Having four jump-jet upgrades would have helped so much more...
Seamoth it can be helpful. But prawn I always aim for JJ upgrade, thermal charger, two inventory containers, drill and grappling. You can maneuver away from anything, and you can grapple onto ghost Leviathans and if done right not take any dmg, while you poke it to death with the prawn.
Are you sure it’s peeper? Spadefish a unique fish that can do the most collision damage for some reason, it also cause a loud hitting noise when any vehicle hitting it.
@@Urkikk spadefish were awful for me to deal with for a while. I built my base 8n the red grass area and they were everywhere. So I got 2 reinforcement modules and never looked back.
This video is the perfect reason for the star rating vs like/dislike. I don't dislike the video. I appreciate the effort and thoughts that went into it. I do dislike the narrow focus and incorrect info about the hull upgrade. I never use the stasis gun. The still suit is good for when you are exploring in the PRAWN because you can always use the knife to get cooked food. The propulsion Cannon is also good for launching flares/ distractions. The radiation suit is really the only useless item. After fixing the reactor leaks, you never need it again.
How to use all of these items practically in-game: 1. Repulsion Cannon can actually be used for a useful late-game tech. In the Lava Zone biomes, Lava Leaches will be a problem or just plain annoying (especially to players who do not have/not yet crafted thermal reactor module), and will stick to your Cyclops. You can use the Repulsion Cannon to blast Lava Leaches off your Cyclops from the *inside*, without having to go outside. Simply look at your Cyclops hologram, aim and/or move to the appropriate location, and fire to blast them away. 2. Stillsuit can be used well because it does something that you can take advantage of mid-game; a (semi) stable water supply at the cost of food. On my runs that I *have* use the stillsuit vs. the runs I haven't, I've found that the reinforced dive suit provides less utility the more you avoid taking damage due to experience and playerskill, and at that point, the Stillsuit just becomes a viable bonus to your basically stock character as opposed to the Reinforced Dive Suit. RDS is for emergency safety, and Stillsuit is for emergency endurance in case you miscalculate how much water you need. (You can't thermal blade to get reliable water.) 3. When a Reaper Leviathan charges your Seamoth or PRAWN Suit into the terrain, the Hull Reinforcement will protect against that. You can use this to prevent your Seamoth from getting one or even two-shot by a Leviathan, and escape by using your Seamoth as a decoy via purposefully getting grabbed, using a Stasis Rifle to trap the leviathan, and escape. This can give you a "second chance" if you miss. Niche, but it works in that specific scenario, and if you're playing a monster slayer playstyle, it may prove effective.
About the lava larva, i usually wait till i get a ton of them on my cyclops and make them go away with the cyclops shield or whatever it was called, it instabtly gets rid of those critters and with the thermal reactor you charge it back pretty quick, and even without the thermal reactor im the kind of person who has a chest full of power cells right besides my engine just in case i run low on power
@@ForTheBrotherhood A few counter-points: First of all, this is automatic. It requires nothing but the item and an empty inventory. Having this on your character gives you 40 water daily, which, even if it gives you the very minimal penalty of 6 food, is good for optimising how much time you're spending crafting, acting more as luxury. Second, without the reinforced dive suit, there's no point in *not* putting one on. Having it on your character is, in itself, beneficial just due to mere presence, and the Stillsuit helped me greatly when beating the game without the Cyclops. And finally, crafting water and such takes power while growing food takes time. The Stillsuit is free of these two constraints, constantly active without power consumption. The point that this isn't a very good item late-game is very sound, however, I'm trying to demonstrate the benefits, not explain why it's fully optimal or needed in every playthrough (which, admittedly, it isn't).
The still suit is quite usefull. Not every player likes the cyclops. I did most of the lower levels in my prawn and was glad to have the still suit. The hull reinforcement module is very good before you get the defense module. The reinforcement has saved my seamoth more than once in an encounter with a leviathan. (Don’t know why Wikipedia thinks it doesn’t help there when it clearly does.) So in summary: Just because YOU don’t need something in your play style doesn’t mean it is useless!
Yeah in my first playthrough the cyclops was basically decorative. I never drove anywhere in it because I was scared of losing it. I wish I had found the wetsuit instead of filling my inventory with 15 water and preserved food.
I don't like using the cyclops because of losing it and I feel like my movements are restricted. I don't know why everyone hates the solar recharger but I love it mainly because using it with the perimeter defence system makes me feel so safe.
The hull reinforcement upgrade only protects your vehicles against crashing into objects, it doesnt give any defense against hostile fauna By the time you get the still suit its useless since you already got latern trees, chineese potato or marbemelon plantations or the water cleaning thing so its garbage edit : the hull reinforcement doesnt work on the prawn
I’d say the most useless items in the history of Subnautica are the flair, cave finder tool and the hand-held expandable bladder kit. Everything else in the game I’ve gotten some use with. Even with items as dumb as the sea moth daylight charger, it still has some use for players starting out. All three items he listed in this video I can say for sure are not the most useless items in the game. They aren’t necessary bad, but are simply outclassed by other options. Yes, the stasis rifle is pretty much a better version of the repulsion cannon, but by that same token, saying that the repulsion cannon is the worst thing in the game because the stasis rifle exists is just bad logic. Same gos for the still suit. Now, if this was a list just talking about equipment you WEAR, then I would agree that it’s the worst of the suits, but considering the entire pool of useless shit in the game, I’d hardly put it anywhere close to the bottom. As for the hull reinforcement, I could get behind that statement. Since the only thing it works on is the sea moth, its use goes down significantly. And at some point in the game, we all stop using the sea moth and just use the Spider-Man grapple arm on the prawn suit to travel. I agree with your statements said about each item you listed in this video, but your reasoning for putting them in those spots I do not agree with at all.
I’m pretty sure Bladder Kit is bugged, back then it used to pull up as fast as Seaglider, now it 100x less than back then the day, basically from 10m/s to 0.1m/s
Since the devs have added the Large Multipurpose room from Below Zero into Base Subnautica, they should also add the Functionality that the Air Bladder has in BZ, into Subnautica 1. They should also tweak a few other things like showing the bar on the side of an item to show its battery percentage without having to hover over the item, as well as the freshness for any spoilable food items. And the way that the Seaglide has two separate buttons for turning off the map, and turning off the spotlight. Oh, and the Recyclotron. That one should definitely be added into Sub1. It was so convenient being able to store larger amounts of Titanium, Copper, Silver, etc, since you could just convert it back to its base form in the Recyclotron
I did the lava zones without reinforced diving suit on my first playthrough, I used the still suit instead. The damage is not that high, and 99% of the time I'm inside a vehicle anyway so the heat didn't matter. The still suit was certainly handy. It wasn't a HUGE game changer but I wouldn't call it useless.
I am very surprised that he didn’t mention the air bladder, that thing is completely useless in the first game, you can get to the surface just as fast by swimming up.
Air Bladder it then most misunderstood. Most don't know what it's for. It's a life vest, so when you're about to drown and you're 200m deep, seconds left, you pop the device. You will black out like always, but the game brings you to the surface, and your HP takes the dmg. Instead of losing a hardcore game, or your progress, you find yourself top side with little hp, but alive.
I use the Repulsion cannon mostly on the Warper. By accident, I shot a crawler on land using it and it launched me about 200 ft in the air and out about 300 ft into the water, that was a wild ride.
The repulsion cannon is second to none at removing Lava Larva from the Cyclops. Even better, you can do it without even getting out of the vehicle because the holographic display shows you where they're attached. Just aim at the wall and fire.
The stillsuit is quite annoying, it doesn't fix the water problem, just reduce it, so you will still bring water anyway, but the suit itself will fill your inventory with water and will make you need to clean it way too often
I've still never used either the propulsion or repulsion cannon. The only time I felt it'd be kinda nice is the Aurora, but the deep parts of the aurora can just as easily be accessed by jumping over one of the junk walls by tanking some fire and jumping off a ledge. That said, I also never used the stasis rifle.
For me , the hull reinforcement is a MUST HAVE in the Seamoth because I can't completely see where I am going -How can't you see where you are going?? I sacrifice knowing exactly where I am going by piloting the Seamoth diagonally to always be at its speed limit. W + A or D and spacebar
I wish I could say that’s why I crash into everything, but really I’m just a bad seamoth driver. My average trip from point A to B is basically just *crash* ‘oops’ *crash* ‘oops’ *crash* ‘oops’
I've beaten this game so many times, vanilla, modded, and never without hunger/thirst. I can't say I agree with this list in any way. The Prop cannon: While it's really a stepping stone to the next, don't forget that this game was made after Sandy Hook, and they wanted a gun less game. This is a relatively early "gun" that repels any activity hostile mob, giving you precious seconds to escape, and is used in exploration. It's resources are minimal and possibly less time to construct then having to replay from a save when you get turned into chum. StillSuit can be replaced with certain fish (*cough*containment farms*cough*)but the Stillsuit mixed with the Thermal knife takes away all the difficulty from intake survival. Is it as useful as the deep dive? No. But poking about your bases and building them, basically mundane tasks it takes one consistantly out the mix. Also, Water Purification Stations require constant energy and interaction to keep production, (late game I find myself with a multi room with 6 for aesthetics. That's overkill, one works fine) the one thing everyone also forgets is the suit isn't a diving suit. It doesn't require being in water to work. Thus it's the perfect option for use if your just walking about. It doubles your water meter in usage, by producing half a days needed water for free. (Charge suit requires both active swimming and holding the item, but like the still, this just also adds to longevity but to tools) Armor plating: I have 2 or 3 Seamoths easy mid game. One's for farming, and this is just a straight forward added passive defense, doesn't require you to activate, and may give you time to get into your moth while it's being attacked. It's also very cheap considering the tech and find location. Here's some other commonly hated item's: Inflatable Air Bladder.. those most misunderstood item in game. When do you need a self contained instant air container? When you pull the string on your lifejacket so you don't drown in the ocean. Air bladder is the same concept, except tailored to the games danger, drowning. Small 1 slot item, and your 200 meters down with 6 seconds left of breath. As you lose oxygen you begin to black out.. but you don't die. How many have breached the surface and thought you cheated death? You did, but have you ever popped an Air Bladder and have it bring you to safety at 10% hp? That's cheating death, or giving you a possible continue on a Hardcor playthrough. Pathfinder Tool: I dont need it in 1, BZ it's useful in the underwater root caves, but honestly for a first time player this shit will help fight another dangerous life ender.. lost inside the dead hull of a submerged shipwreck. Established players know the roots, first time players will most likely die once in the playthrough due to thus. Also, sections of the Aurora. To me in all my time, the only and most useless items in game (non cosmetic/decoration) are the Air Pump and pipes. If it allowed the connection of close based with survival capabilities (off sight house with no power) it would be great, but honestly why does it exist in release build? You put it on the base, which takes a few seconds to just open the hatch or swim into the moonpool.. the mats are dirt cheap, but honestly best allocated elsewhere.
@@EvanG529 it’s not useless, it’s just about as useful as putting a locker next to the basic decoy tube and you need an extra upgrade slot anyway if you want all the other modules
Flashlight. You may be wonderind, why? It's so useful... BUT flare costs little to nothing, gives 360° light, so you won't have to be 5 meters away to see anything, works for a few in-game days, doesn't need batteries, can be placed.
The stillsuit would be useful, if it replaced water faster than you got thirsty. As for the Hull Reinforcement, I agree that it’s next to useless. It helps for the Seamoth collisions against terrain or against small fish, but the fact that it doesn’t reduce damage when being attacked by fauna, makes it literally entirely useless for the Prawn Suit
If it’s “too OP” to negate the need to bring water with you, at the cost of not being able to wear the Reinforced Divesuit, then I’m sorry but it’s just a trash piece of equipment. Besides, it’s only found in locations that are MEANT to be explored in the latter stages of Mid Game, or even the Late Game. (Yes, I know you CAN just run directly there, right after you get a Seaglide, and have it for the early game, where it arguably performs the best) But just giving you +20 H2O every 12 hours is simply not worth being worn over the Reinforced Suit. And it’s also not worth keeping it in my inventory to swap between the two, due to how many inventory spaces it takes up. I’ll concede that it negating the need to produce more water isn’t exactly balanced, but then it should produce water at 90% the speed that you dehydrate, therefore allowing you to do what a Water Reclamation suit should do, and that’s stave off dehydration without being able to fully prevent it.
For me it was always the flashlight. Seaglide fragments are everywhere, and as soon as I get one of those I just use the flashlight on it. I don't even take the time to craft a base flashlight tbh.
The difference is the flashlight illuminates a lot more, so in a cramped space with no light it's made it a lot easier to navigate compared to the seaglide flashlight
Seaglide’s flashlight isn’t very useful as a flashlight. It’s too dim and the space it lights up is too small. It’s all got a blue tint to it whereas the flashlight has a pure white glow that illuminates a lot. The distinction is really important if you chose to play filmic color grading like me because with that enabled darkness becomes pitch black so you need the best light sources available
You don't really take that much damage in the lava river (and you shouldn't be spending a lot of time there anyways) Stillsuit is essential for a player like me, who doesn't use the vehicles in the game, as it allows me better inventory space, which isn't filled up with water bottles. Flare, Bladder and the torchlight are all made obsolete by the seaglider, and all is found early in the game.
the absolute most useless item, is the cyclops item i beleive the command was "spawn cyclops" it gives you an item with 0 use that has an image of a cyclops
I'd disagree with stillsuit. As a person who prefers mobility ond good view, seaglide/seamoth were my way to go almost everywhere up to the crush depth of the seamoth and even then I made long tours from that point with seaglide and 2 airtanks. Thus ability to partly replenish water and have more space to collect i.e resources was great. Even in lava zone without loitering too much and some medkit use I was able to use it. I had no use for solar charger for seamoth, as it has only 4 upgrade slots. Pathfinder - useless. Cyclop decoy system? I've never fired one. Somebody mentioned airbladder - I used it quite a lot to rush for the surface with empty tanks. But I often made recon dives hundreds o meters down just with 2 tanks, seaglide and charging fins - unbelievable fun.
@@B1g_B0sssss maybe i just like to live dangerously but i find taking the seamoth far more convenient than building a huge chain of pipes every time i need to dive deeper for extended periods
It's a sidegrade. You lose the ability to pick things up, but gain the ability to push things the propulsion cannon couldn't affect. It can be worth having both.
i never use a cyclops cuz of its material cost and energy cost. I usually just use prawn and bring salted peepers and the big boy water things that give like 40 or 50 h2o
My style disagrees with your style, but I like it. I've done a few anti-cyclops runs, it just makes the game slower. But having to "walk the streets" in a prawn is a great way to find stuff and learn the ocean floor and paths. If you ever play with mods, Nexus has a mod gives you a seamoth upgrade to let it fly. Give that a spin, cyclops does give a boss feeling, but flying a seamoth makes you feel free.
Unpopular opinion- the cyclops is useless. The sea moth can travel faster and you can equip 4 storage containers on it to move stuff. The orawn suit is also faster and with the grappling arm, can go faster than the sea moth. The cyclops is slow, cant turn quickly, still easily gets destroyed,runs out of power quickly, cant fit in lots of areas, and isnt necessary because the moon pool is better. There is no practical use for it.
Nah i couldnt disagree with this more (aside from repulsion cannon which is more for fun than anything else, though i still wouldnt call it one of the most useless) Stillsuit is incredibly useful for tedious, non dangerous tasks. I can't say its necessarily a lifesaver to any degree other than the early game, and I do believe the reinforced divesuit is better overall, but I still used it later in the game depending on what i was doing purely for convenience as i often was confident in my ability to dodge charging enemies and such (even when i dont see them). It's nice to not need to make more trips to your cyclops or other water storage. And like you mentioned in the video i believe that the stillsuit is not only good in the early/mid game but is much better than any of the other options at that point. Hull reinforcement isnt a great upgrade BUT it is incredibly easy to get and quite useful for how stupidly easy it is to craft. While i would agree that its pretty damn useless on a prawn suit and especially once you get better upgrade options, but at a point in the game, i do believe it is optimal to get one once you get a seamoth. Here's the actual most useless items in the game: Pathfinder tool: i genuinely tried to use this in my playthroughs, but its just not a very good item and would take the extra inventory space any day. Most of the time when exploring caves/wrecks you dont need it anyways, but when you DO need it it usually doesnt do a great job of guiding you unless you are a incredibly thorough with your markings. Air Bladder: Kinda sucks that its so useless since they actually did give it a use in below zero. I believe its slower to bring you up in normal subnautica, but in below zero they have the option to use it for extra O2 which is infinitely more useful than bringing you up faster. I actually had this in my inventory for the majority of my playthrough of below zero just for that extra oxygen. Flares: I wont lie as a throwable light source they do a good job of adding to the scary atmosphere of the game and are accessible immediately, but in terms of utility they are far worse than the flashlight or just the seaglide. I do like that they are the first light source you get, having immediate access to it at the start of both games, but the fact that its rendered useless within the first 5 minutes by the flashlight is honestly kinda impressive (and i already consider the flashlight to be amongst some of the most useless items, but i do recognize it has its place in the game).
Most useless items in the game are the floating air pump and pipes. Anywhere you might want to use is is too deep to warrant the effort of making the pipe network.
dam so i been using hull renforcement for no protection agenst reapers tbh that makes no sense like its reinforcing the hull I should protect agenst reapers
Still-suit was my literal life support for most of the game. Couldn't even build Cyclops before way late into the game, and even then I postponed even checking it out for quite some while. And as much as I dig feeling like a Captain Nemo, it's easily the most useless vehicle in the game.
I disagree, having a Mobile indoor grow bed, extra storage (both the lockers it comes with, and the lockers you can build) is quite convenient. It also acts as a mobile checkpoint (unless your on hard-core or creative)
@@R1ch4rd_N1x0n 1 didn't have to call me a "dum dum" for miss-reading 1 word, 2 I haven't played Subnautica in ages so it wouldn't have affected me if I knew they are different things.
Idk man like he talks shit bout the two bout at the end of each item he talks about he said there not that bad then completely shits on the hull reinforcement lol
The hull reinforment addon effects collisions with small fishes too. for the seamoth it can sometimes handy.
But spadefish still hurt the vehicle health be 10+ points...
"Just use the cyclops to colide with a peeper " 🥴
For me it was the seamoth solar charger. I'm never taking that thing far enough away from my base for long enough to need to replace the power cell. By the time I can even get the upgrade, the battery situation is already taken care of by the moonpool you fabricate the upgrade with.
Another useless item in subnautica: the compass. I'll admit, it's useful when you're new, but if you're already somewhat familiar with the game you won't need it. You can get along just fine by using the aurora and your lifepod as reference points.
Just shocked you didn't mention the pathfinder tool.
LOL THE PATHFINDER TOOL WHAT A JOKE
The seamoth solar charge is useful because you can use it to charge your power cells before you unlock the charger for your base. Its a niche use but I like it for early game.
@@Toastishott as far as I'm aware, the solar charger can only be crafted in the moonpool, which takes care of the battery situation by charging the battery when it's docked.
So you mean to tell me, that when I fought and killed a Reaper Leviathan in my Prawn suit, that those four hull reinforcement upgrades were POINTLESS?! Having four jump-jet upgrades would have helped so much more...
They stack?
@@reece5457 no lol
@@YaBoiDoc JUMP-JET UPGRADES DON'T STACK EITHER???
@@letsgogaming8112 none of the upgrades stack
@@YaBoiDoc M y P r a w n s u i t h a s b e e n a l i e .
I feel so stupid now because of this video. I was always using hull reinforcement on my prawn suit to be tankier-
Same lmao i gotta put that thing into the trash can
I’m using it right now on both seamoth and prawn just because I could afford it XD
Seamoth it can be helpful. But prawn I always aim for JJ upgrade, thermal charger, two inventory containers, drill and grappling. You can maneuver away from anything, and you can grapple onto ghost Leviathans and if done right not take any dmg, while you poke it to death with the prawn.
@@Benesato u forgor about depth upgrade how do u wanna get to ghost leviathans withou it lmao
@@Benesato thermal charging also kinda sucks unless you are in the lava zone which you need enchanced depth for
I'm still using the seamoth hull upgrade because ramming into a peeper at full speed deals like 25 damage sometimes lmao
Are you sure it’s peeper?
Spadefish a unique fish that can do the most collision damage for some reason, it also cause a loud hitting noise when any vehicle hitting it.
@@Urkikk spadefish were awful for me to deal with for a while. I built my base 8n the red grass area and they were everywhere.
So I got 2 reinforcement modules and never looked back.
@@timotheninja no I don't think they do. I didn't know it at the time.
This video is the perfect reason for the star rating vs like/dislike. I don't dislike the video. I appreciate the effort and thoughts that went into it. I do dislike the narrow focus and incorrect info about the hull upgrade. I never use the stasis gun. The still suit is good for when you are exploring in the PRAWN because you can always use the knife to get cooked food.
The propulsion Cannon is also good for launching flares/ distractions.
The radiation suit is really the only useless item. After fixing the reactor leaks, you never need it again.
How to use all of these items practically in-game:
1. Repulsion Cannon can actually be used for a useful late-game tech. In the Lava Zone biomes, Lava Leaches will be a problem or just plain annoying (especially to players who do not have/not yet crafted thermal reactor module), and will stick to your Cyclops. You can use the Repulsion Cannon to blast Lava Leaches off your Cyclops from the *inside*, without having to go outside. Simply look at your Cyclops hologram, aim and/or move to the appropriate location, and fire to blast them away.
2. Stillsuit can be used well because it does something that you can take advantage of mid-game; a (semi) stable water supply at the cost of food. On my runs that I *have* use the stillsuit vs. the runs I haven't, I've found that the reinforced dive suit provides less utility the more you avoid taking damage due to experience and playerskill, and at that point, the Stillsuit just becomes a viable bonus to your basically stock character as opposed to the Reinforced Dive Suit. RDS is for emergency safety, and Stillsuit is for emergency endurance in case you miscalculate how much water you need. (You can't thermal blade to get reliable water.)
3. When a Reaper Leviathan charges your Seamoth or PRAWN Suit into the terrain, the Hull Reinforcement will protect against that. You can use this to prevent your Seamoth from getting one or even two-shot by a Leviathan, and escape by using your Seamoth as a decoy via purposefully getting grabbed, using a Stasis Rifle to trap the leviathan, and escape. This can give you a "second chance" if you miss. Niche, but it works in that specific scenario, and if you're playing a monster slayer playstyle, it may prove effective.
About the lava larva, i usually wait till i get a ton of them on my cyclops and make them go away with the cyclops shield or whatever it was called, it instabtly gets rid of those critters and with the thermal reactor you charge it back pretty quick, and even without the thermal reactor im the kind of person who has a chest full of power cells right besides my engine just in case i run low on power
In mid-game you already have plants, plus the stillsuit costs a lot, it's unlocked too late, gives the same amount of water as a bladderfish.
@@ForTheBrotherhood A few counter-points:
First of all, this is automatic. It requires nothing but the item and an empty inventory. Having this on your character gives you 40 water daily, which, even if it gives you the very minimal penalty of 6 food, is good for optimising how much time you're spending crafting, acting more as luxury.
Second, without the reinforced dive suit, there's no point in *not* putting one on. Having it on your character is, in itself, beneficial just due to mere presence, and the Stillsuit helped me greatly when beating the game without the Cyclops.
And finally, crafting water and such takes power while growing food takes time. The Stillsuit is free of these two constraints, constantly active without power consumption.
The point that this isn't a very good item late-game is very sound, however, I'm trying to demonstrate the benefits, not explain why it's fully optimal or needed in every playthrough (which, admittedly, it isn't).
The still suit is quite usefull. Not every player likes the cyclops. I did most of the lower levels in my prawn and was glad to have the still suit.
The hull reinforcement module is very good before you get the defense module. The reinforcement has saved my seamoth more than once in an encounter with a leviathan. (Don’t know why Wikipedia thinks it doesn’t help there when it clearly does.)
So in summary: Just because YOU don’t need something in your play style doesn’t mean it is useless!
Yeah in my first playthrough the cyclops was basically decorative. I never drove anywhere in it because I was scared of losing it.
I wish I had found the wetsuit instead of filling my inventory with 15 water and preserved food.
I don't like using the cyclops because of losing it and I feel like my movements are restricted. I don't know why everyone hates the solar recharger but I love it mainly because using it with the perimeter defence system makes me feel so safe.
The hull reinforcement upgrade only protects your vehicles against crashing into objects, it doesnt give any defense against hostile fauna
By the time you get the still suit its useless since you already got latern trees, chineese potato or marbemelon plantations or the water cleaning thing so its garbage
edit : the hull reinforcement doesnt work on the prawn
I’d say the most useless items in the history of Subnautica are the flair, cave finder tool and the hand-held expandable bladder kit. Everything else in the game I’ve gotten some use with. Even with items as dumb as the sea moth daylight charger, it still has some use for players starting out. All three items he listed in this video I can say for sure are not the most useless items in the game. They aren’t necessary bad, but are simply outclassed by other options. Yes, the stasis rifle is pretty much a better version of the repulsion cannon, but by that same token, saying that the repulsion cannon is the worst thing in the game because the stasis rifle exists is just bad logic.
Same gos for the still suit. Now, if this was a list just talking about equipment you WEAR, then I would agree that it’s the worst of the suits, but considering the entire pool of useless shit in the game, I’d hardly put it anywhere close to the bottom.
As for the hull reinforcement, I could get behind that statement. Since the only thing it works on is the sea moth, its use goes down significantly. And at some point in the game, we all stop using the sea moth and just use the Spider-Man grapple arm on the prawn suit to travel.
I agree with your statements said about each item you listed in this video, but your reasoning for putting them in those spots I do not agree with at all.
You've got a point, i agree.
The flair is the best light source in the game and is very useful in my opinion
The bladder kit does almost nothing but since you have infinite titanium in early game it helps a lot+in below zero it it very fast
I’m pretty sure Bladder Kit is bugged, back then it used to pull up as fast as Seaglider, now it 100x less than back then the day, basically from 10m/s to 0.1m/s
Since the devs have added the Large Multipurpose room from Below Zero into Base Subnautica, they should also add the Functionality that the Air Bladder has in BZ, into Subnautica 1.
They should also tweak a few other things like showing the bar on the side of an item to show its battery percentage without having to hover over the item, as well as the freshness for any spoilable food items.
And the way that the Seaglide has two separate buttons for turning off the map, and turning off the spotlight.
Oh, and the Recyclotron. That one should definitely be added into Sub1. It was so convenient being able to store larger amounts of Titanium, Copper, Silver, etc, since you could just convert it back to its base form in the Recyclotron
I did the lava zones without reinforced diving suit on my first playthrough, I used the still suit instead. The damage is not that high, and 99% of the time I'm inside a vehicle anyway so the heat didn't matter. The still suit was certainly handy. It wasn't a HUGE game changer but I wouldn't call it useless.
I am very surprised that he didn’t mention the air bladder, that thing is completely useless in the first game, you can get to the surface just as fast by swimming up.
Air Bladder it then most misunderstood. Most don't know what it's for. It's a life vest, so when you're about to drown and you're 200m deep, seconds left, you pop the device. You will black out like always, but the game brings you to the surface, and your HP takes the dmg. Instead of losing a hardcore game, or your progress, you find yourself top side with little hp, but alive.
I use the Repulsion cannon mostly on the Warper. By accident, I shot a crawler on land using it and it launched me about 200 ft in the air and out about 300 ft into the water, that was a wild ride.
The repulsion cannon is second to none at removing Lava Larva from the Cyclops. Even better, you can do it without even getting out of the vehicle because the holographic display shows you where they're attached. Just aim at the wall and fire.
The stillsuit is quite annoying, it doesn't fix the water problem, just reduce it, so you will still bring water anyway, but the suit itself will fill your inventory with water and will make you need to clean it way too often
I've still never used either the propulsion or repulsion cannon. The only time I felt it'd be kinda nice is the Aurora, but the deep parts of the aurora can just as easily be accessed by jumping over one of the junk walls by tanking some fire and jumping off a ledge. That said, I also never used the stasis rifle.
The repulsion cannon is quite good not but as much as the stasis rifle
I only use that when i dont have the stasis rifle yet
Damn i been trying to make room for the hull reinforcement upgrade thinking it defends against creature attacks this hole time
Starting the video: I am going to fight this.
Seeing list: Yeah I am gonna have to fight this.
For me , the hull reinforcement is a MUST HAVE in the Seamoth because I can't completely see where I am going
-How can't you see where you are going??
I sacrifice knowing exactly where I am going by piloting the Seamoth diagonally to always be at its speed limit. W + A or D and spacebar
I wish I could say that’s why I crash into everything, but really I’m just a bad seamoth driver. My average trip from point A to B is basically just *crash* ‘oops’ *crash* ‘oops’ *crash* ‘oops’
Steel suit makes you take less damage too, not as much as the RDS though
I've beaten this game so many times, vanilla, modded, and never without hunger/thirst. I can't say I agree with this list in any way.
The Prop cannon: While it's really a stepping stone to the next, don't forget that this game was made after Sandy Hook, and they wanted a gun less game. This is a relatively early "gun" that repels any activity hostile mob, giving you precious seconds to escape, and is used in exploration. It's resources are minimal and possibly less time to construct then having to replay from a save when you get turned into chum.
StillSuit can be replaced with certain fish (*cough*containment farms*cough*)but the Stillsuit mixed with the Thermal knife takes away all the difficulty from intake survival. Is it as useful as the deep dive? No. But poking about your bases and building them, basically mundane tasks it takes one consistantly out the mix. Also, Water Purification Stations require constant energy and interaction to keep production, (late game I find myself with a multi room with 6 for aesthetics. That's overkill, one works fine) the one thing everyone also forgets is the suit isn't a diving suit. It doesn't require being in water to work. Thus it's the perfect option for use if your just walking about.
It doubles your water meter in usage, by producing half a days needed water for free. (Charge suit requires both active swimming and holding the item, but like the still, this just also adds to longevity but to tools)
Armor plating: I have 2 or 3 Seamoths easy mid game. One's for farming, and this is just a straight forward added passive defense, doesn't require you to activate, and may give you time to get into your moth while it's being attacked. It's also very cheap considering the tech and find location.
Here's some other commonly hated item's:
Inflatable Air Bladder.. those most misunderstood item in game. When do you need a self contained instant air container? When you pull the string on your lifejacket so you don't drown in the ocean. Air bladder is the same concept, except tailored to the games danger, drowning. Small 1 slot item, and your 200 meters down with 6 seconds left of breath. As you lose oxygen you begin to black out.. but you don't die. How many have breached the surface and thought you cheated death? You did, but have you ever popped an Air Bladder and have it bring you to safety at 10% hp? That's cheating death, or giving you a possible continue on a Hardcor playthrough.
Pathfinder Tool: I dont need it in 1, BZ it's useful in the underwater root caves, but honestly for a first time player this shit will help fight another dangerous life ender.. lost inside the dead hull of a submerged shipwreck. Established players know the roots, first time players will most likely die once in the playthrough due to thus. Also, sections of the Aurora.
To me in all my time, the only and most useless items in game (non cosmetic/decoration) are the Air Pump and pipes. If it allowed the connection of close based with survival capabilities (off sight house with no power) it would be great, but honestly why does it exist in release build? You put it on the base, which takes a few seconds to just open the hatch or swim into the moonpool.. the mats are dirt cheap, but honestly best allocated elsewhere.
no mention of the pathfinder tool, the air bladder, or the cyclops decoy tube upgrade?
I agree, but probably these items are so useless that people completely forget about them
Why is the decoy tube useless? To be fair I haven't had to use it yet so I don't know.
Decoy saved me countless times
@@EvanG529 it’s not useless, it’s just about as useful as putting a locker next to the basic decoy tube and you need an extra upgrade slot anyway if you want all the other modules
@@IliumGaming does it reload automatically though? Like you can shoot multiple without having to add a new one manually?
In all the times I’ve played I have NEVER used the repulsion cannon
Not even for the aurora bit?
@@GrimTheDestroyer I’ve used the blue one not the yellow one
@@xsool-yl7us oh I forgot that replusion canon is the upgrade for propulsion cannon
I made the hull reinforcement after my seamoth was 2 shot by a warper and now you're telling me it'll still get 2 shot by a warper
Flashlight. You may be wonderind, why? It's so useful... BUT flare costs little to nothing, gives 360° light, so you won't have to be 5 meters away to see anything, works for a few in-game days, doesn't need batteries, can be placed.
When I first played subnauctica I didn’t know the lava suit thing existed. I just took damage and would bring like 10 medkits down to the lava zone.
The stillsuit would be useful, if it replaced water faster than you got thirsty.
As for the Hull Reinforcement, I agree that it’s next to useless. It helps for the Seamoth collisions against terrain or against small fish, but the fact that it doesn’t reduce damage when being attacked by fauna, makes it literally entirely useless for the Prawn Suit
i mean, goes against logic, it captures body moisture, wouldn't make sense to gain more than you lost
Well, no.
It's still useful at delaying your death from dehydration. If it could just make inifinite water that would be busted.
If it’s “too OP” to negate the need to bring water with you, at the cost of not being able to wear the Reinforced Divesuit, then I’m sorry but it’s just a trash piece of equipment.
Besides, it’s only found in locations that are MEANT to be explored in the latter stages of Mid Game, or even the Late Game. (Yes, I know you CAN just run directly there, right after you get a Seaglide, and have it for the early game, where it arguably performs the best)
But just giving you +20 H2O every 12 hours is simply not worth being worn over the Reinforced Suit. And it’s also not worth keeping it in my inventory to swap between the two, due to how many inventory spaces it takes up.
I’ll concede that it negating the need to produce more water isn’t exactly balanced, but then it should produce water at 90% the speed that you dehydrate, therefore allowing you to do what a Water Reclamation suit should do, and that’s stave off dehydration without being able to fully prevent it.
i been believing that the reinforcement upgrade was the reason i was still alive after battling with a god damn annoying reaper 😂 guess i was wrong
Dawn you mean I'm wasting a slot on hull reinforcement. And i drive well...
For me it was always the flashlight. Seaglide fragments are everywhere, and as soon as I get one of those I just use the flashlight on it. I don't even take the time to craft a base flashlight tbh.
The difference is the flashlight illuminates a lot more, so in a cramped space with no light it's made it a lot easier to navigate compared to the seaglide flashlight
yeah but the seaglide loses power if you use it as a flashlight, so when you need it you won’t have any charge
flashlight is also better for finding PDAs as it doesn't cancel out the blue shine from them which the blueish seaglide light does
Flashlight is better cause it doesnt hurt my eyes unlike the seaglides.
Seaglide’s flashlight isn’t very useful as a flashlight. It’s too dim and the space it lights up is too small. It’s all got a blue tint to it whereas the flashlight has a pure white glow that illuminates a lot. The distinction is really important if you chose to play filmic color grading like me because with that enabled darkness becomes pitch black so you need the best light sources available
You don't really take that much damage in the lava river (and you shouldn't be spending a lot of time there anyways) Stillsuit is essential for a player like me, who doesn't use the vehicles in the game, as it allows me better inventory space, which isn't filled up with water bottles.
Flare, Bladder and the torchlight are all made obsolete by the seaglider, and all is found early in the game.
I’ve used the hull reinforcement for 3 play throughs. And I’m know just finding this out😂
the absolute most useless item, is the cyclops item i beleive the command was "spawn cyclops" it gives you an item with 0 use that has an image of a cyclops
Things that require cheats to get, do not count.
@@R1ch4rd_N1x0n i dont remember that rule being mentioned
@@thebestroombachild2084 read the description. Useless things that actually have a use.
"Ahem"
Flashlight.
I'd disagree with stillsuit. As a person who prefers mobility ond good view, seaglide/seamoth were my way to go almost everywhere up to the crush depth of the seamoth and even then I made long tours from that point with seaglide and 2 airtanks. Thus ability to partly replenish water and have more space to collect i.e resources was great. Even in lava zone without loitering too much and some medkit use I was able to use it.
I had no use for solar charger for seamoth, as it has only 4 upgrade slots. Pathfinder - useless. Cyclop decoy system? I've never fired one.
Somebody mentioned airbladder - I used it quite a lot to rush for the surface with empty tanks. But I often made recon dives hundreds o meters down just with 2 tanks, seaglide and charging fins - unbelievable fun.
i have still never used the repulsion cannon or the stasis rifle, never needed either.
The repulsion cannon broke my game.
I got under the Aurora with is.
For me the most useless items were the air pump and pipe lol
Good one. I've never really used one only for sort of decorative purpose when building sort of a project base.
The air pump and pipe can be actually pretty useful early game if you don't want to risk the seamoth.
@@B1g_B0sssss maybe i just like to live dangerously but i find taking the seamoth far more convenient than building a huge chain of pipes every time i need to dive deeper for extended periods
@@mallow5828 I've used in the early, early game to explore the mushroom cave. Scanning all the stuff down there can really jump start your base
I still don't understand how the Repulsion Cannon is an upgrade of the Propulsion Cannon. You go from a Gravity Gun, to a Force push?
It's a sidegrade. You lose the ability to pick things up, but gain the ability to push things the propulsion cannon couldn't affect. It can be worth having both.
That’s the best outro in existence
my question is why every time capsule I've found has contained a still suit, why does everyone leave the piss suit behind?!!?!?!
Wow I've been using def upgrades this whole time just to find out they're completely useless. Dang
"Spoilers"
Me: *I do not fear spoilers.*
i never use a cyclops cuz of its material cost and energy cost. I usually just use prawn and bring salted peepers and the big boy water things that give like 40 or 50 h2o
Cyclops allows you to collect as many resources as you want without returning to base, also useful to transport prawn suit
@@schnozgaming989 agreed i just never use it for any particular reason and just say that’s the reason why
@@azrixael you should try it, once you build it, you feel like a boss
@@schnozgaming989 i have tried it and i completely agree it is badass and stuff. Im sporadic when i play subnautica
My style disagrees with your style, but I like it. I've done a few anti-cyclops runs, it just makes the game slower. But having to "walk the streets" in a prawn is a great way to find stuff and learn the ocean floor and paths.
If you ever play with mods, Nexus has a mod gives you a seamoth upgrade to let it fly. Give that a spin, cyclops does give a boss feeling, but flying a seamoth makes you feel free.
I love your voice
you're 100% gonna be famous just keep going at it
I didnt know that the defensive module only helped collision that makes no sense. There's go my plan to use 4 and tank a reaper for fun
Purple pinecone.
Gives you salt
Thats it
I like tha shield generator for Cyclops but consume more energy
Awe you forgot the Neptune, because who's trying to get off that island anyway?
For me it was the torpedos and repulsion cannon.
What about the emergency floating device??
Pathfinder tool?
Unpopular opinion- the cyclops is useless. The sea moth can travel faster and you can equip 4 storage containers on it to move stuff. The orawn suit is also faster and with the grappling arm, can go faster than the sea moth.
The cyclops is slow, cant turn quickly, still easily gets destroyed,runs out of power quickly, cant fit in lots of areas, and isnt necessary because the moon pool is better. There is no practical use for it.
Bo o o drinkin wa er
Nah i couldnt disagree with this more (aside from repulsion cannon which is more for fun than anything else, though i still wouldnt call it one of the most useless)
Stillsuit is incredibly useful for tedious, non dangerous tasks. I can't say its necessarily a lifesaver to any degree other than the early game, and I do believe the reinforced divesuit is better overall, but I still used it later in the game depending on what i was doing purely for convenience as i often was confident in my ability to dodge charging enemies and such (even when i dont see them). It's nice to not need to make more trips to your cyclops or other water storage. And like you mentioned in the video i believe that the stillsuit is not only good in the early/mid game but is much better than any of the other options at that point.
Hull reinforcement isnt a great upgrade BUT it is incredibly easy to get and quite useful for how stupidly easy it is to craft. While i would agree that its pretty damn useless on a prawn suit and especially once you get better upgrade options, but at a point in the game, i do believe it is optimal to get one once you get a seamoth.
Here's the actual most useless items in the game:
Pathfinder tool: i genuinely tried to use this in my playthroughs, but its just not a very good item and would take the extra inventory space any day. Most of the time when exploring caves/wrecks you dont need it anyways, but when you DO need it it usually doesnt do a great job of guiding you unless you are a incredibly thorough with your markings.
Air Bladder: Kinda sucks that its so useless since they actually did give it a use in below zero. I believe its slower to bring you up in normal subnautica, but in below zero they have the option to use it for extra O2 which is infinitely more useful than bringing you up faster. I actually had this in my inventory for the majority of my playthrough of below zero just for that extra oxygen.
Flares: I wont lie as a throwable light source they do a good job of adding to the scary atmosphere of the game and are accessible immediately, but in terms of utility they are far worse than the flashlight or just the seaglide. I do like that they are the first light source you get, having immediate access to it at the start of both games, but the fact that its rendered useless within the first 5 minutes by the flashlight is honestly kinda impressive (and i already consider the flashlight to be amongst some of the most useless items, but i do recognize it has its place in the game).
Bro I've completed this game like 80 times and I've never found the still suit
yea same, after looking it up, it spawns in mountain and dunes wrecks... yea no wonder ive never found it lmao
Most useless items in the game are the floating air pump and pipes. Anywhere you might want to use is is too deep to warrant the effort of making the pipe network.
Compass is useless when you have aurora
But you can't see it underwater so.
No usefull item that really help you to figure out of where you are from your bases/other marqued structure.
@@deinsilverdrac8695 if ur in a deep biome then you prob have a lot of those so you can know where are you easily
@@nerfjanetreal
But usefull if you find something withouth any major point to track down it from the surrounding to your base.
Its usefull when you are following guides
@@Sharded_ yeah and for some lifepod that are only described as
It's south of
Or west of
Ummmmm instead of the hull reinforcement why wouldn’t you just put the flashlight??
dam so i been using hull renforcement for no protection agenst reapers
tbh that makes no sense like its reinforcing the hull I should protect agenst reapers
Still-suit was my literal life support for most of the game.
Couldn't even build Cyclops before way late into the game, and even then I postponed even checking it out for quite some while.
And as much as I dig feeling like a Captain Nemo, it's easily the most useless vehicle in the game.
I disagree, having a Mobile indoor grow bed, extra storage (both the lockers it comes with, and the lockers you can build) is quite convenient.
It also acts as a mobile checkpoint (unless your on hard-core or creative)
i almost made a hull reinforcement instead of a solar charger thankfully i didn't made that shit
Why is still suit there its very usefull especially when i dont have water
No stupid intro
No 10h outro
Just 3 most useless items in 2:37 min
20/10
air bladder is far worse
You can fly with the Propulsion Cannon
Okay? Where did he mention the Propulsion Cannon?
@@R1ch4rd_N1x0n legit the start
@@babftplayer4378 Repulsion Cannon and Propulsion Cannon are two different things. Dum dum.
@@R1ch4rd_N1x0n 1 didn't have to call me a "dum dum" for miss-reading 1 word, 2 I haven't played Subnautica in ages so it wouldn't have affected me if I knew they are different things.
@@babftplayer4378 I could've called you much worse than a dum dum lol, that's a playful insult.
I can say the most uskossa thing in this game its the fuckin sea weapon thing that you can see where you see all the recipes But you cant craft it
pathfinder tool.
Honestly yeah this.
the fabrikator ?
What you mean?
@@somedude-l2g he means the item that you use to create every single item in the game
Good vid
No one notice hes seamoth is only 200 depth and hes in 250 1:16
He's in creative mode I think
pathfinder tool
Idk man like he talks shit bout the two bout at the end of each item he talks about he said there not that bad then completely shits on the hull reinforcement lol
blud saying the hull reinforment is ussless but then how are you escaping the planet lil bro? are you that dum? or what