"I would simply pass out if a man than fine walked in and offered me food" Fking WORD (and if, you know, Jacob Anderson and Sam Reid were to say, come along with him while he was offering the food then the more the merrier! 🤣) I just realized it was a year ago (last year's Who Christmas special) that I subbed to your channel and I'm so glad I did. Thanks for all the great content and I hope you had a great Christmas!
@@katieoshaughnessy8086 I couldn't resist the reference! LOL You actually convinced me to watch IWTV to be honest (I'm sort of out of new shows to watch) so I was bored one day and watched your reaction to the season 3 trailer. Started watching the show when it dropped on Netflix earlier this year and now I'm a little obsessed so thank you (no snark) for that
Last years was definitely more fun. But I thought this one was a reminder of the melancholy that comes with the holidays, when you lose a loved one or you’re alone etc. It was very heartfelt and so I think it ultimately had more impact on me.
Yeah,I liked the themes of it. Just hit too close to home. I lost two grandparents this year so it kinda felt like being kicked in the gut with a reminder.
@ I’m so sorry to hear that ❤️🩹 Yeah when it catches you off guard like that I can definitely see it being a hard watch. And the promotion for the special did not convey at all it would be so…melancholy.
That's one of the things I love about Doctor Who! For 11 living a year in earth was positively unbearable! It drove him bonkers, living time in order, not having constant danger and mystery and puzzles, but 15? No, he lives a year and has a blast, makes a friend and solves the mystery in the end! These are the same person but different characters and it just works!
Except they didn't spend the Year of the Slow Invasion on Earth. They left earth several times, leaving Brian to watch the cubes. And the Doctor left after four days and only returned for the last month. This is probably the first time since Pertwee that the Doctor has spent a whole year just on Earth.
LOVE THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS! As for the story, it didn't feel too Christmas-y until the end and I figured out what star they were going for. As for Joy, I didn't care about her as much as I did the hotelier. She could count as a Companion! In fact, I definitely think there's space for a series of adventures in that time The Doctor was staying there.
The Church on Ruby Road was indeed the Christmas special before this one and was more straightforward. This one has a lot of nods to previous stories, but ultimately I thought it an average episode. Have a happy new year, Katie.
This is in my personal top three new new Who episodes. I have struggled with RTD’s writing since he came back apart from a couple episodes, and this one being a Moffat episode made a big difference to me. Also good to have an episode fully committed to Ncuti, as we really missed that last season given he was away filming other things for most of it. I have no doubt Ncuti can be a great doctor with the right writing (as this backed up), I just worry RTD’s best days are behind him, and he will never be able to produce quality like the Tennant era again. Ruby was the saving grace for me last season and I’m gutted she has quit, there was obviously something she was incredibly unhappy with given she quit basically after one round of filming (most of next season was filmed back to back to last one). Possibly having to carry large parts of the show with Ncuti being away had something to do with it. I’m interested to see what the next companion is like, and with Ncuti available for more of the filming I’m hoping it will be better.
The doctor for SURE ! (Negan would be a bloody nightmare to be around !! He’s got some great one liners but I’d boink him on the head with Lucille after a DAY!)
I didn't think The Doctor and Joy spent enough time together to make that last conversation work. Plus when Joy had the briefcase on her wrist she was brainwashed so it doesn't feel great to let her go blow herself up just because she's cool with it
@@JudgeJosephDredd1989 did they put religion in Dr. Who? Does this not mean, that it was not the birth of Jesus that caused the star to appear.. But then again how dare they add Christian imagery in an episode celebrating a Christian holiday...
I think my biggest issue with the episode was how fast paced it was. The problem I think primarily was that there were three characters Moffat wanted us to get attached to, but the issue is when you only have about an hour to do that - you need to work really hard to get a person to care about even one. There were no less than three characters that Moffat tried it with, and for me I think the result was that I didn't overly care too much for any of them? Not to say you can't pull it off, but it takes you actually focusing on them and not jumping around so much. I think the episode would've been much improved in my opinion if we just focused on Joy and making us care about her, that way the ending has a lot more impact as opposed to kind of relying heavily on the emotions that a lot of people have regarding losing loved ones. As it stands I don't even remember the names of the hotel guy who died or the hotel girl who The Doctor was meant to have spent a year with because it was rushed past so fast. They should've either been cut from the episode or somehow more actively worked into the plot, likely only one of them otherwise you run into the same issue you had with Jodie's TARDIS team where you're struggling to characterize way too many people at once. It seems like this episode was meant to serve the same purpose as like, Runaway Bride or Voyage of the Damned, where the goal here is to convey that the Doctor can't be alone - he needs a companion. The issue is that both of those episodes do a good job of conveying this, while also standing on their own as a good episode. Voyage of the Damned being a very good direct comparison, as much like here the companion doesn't survive the end of the story (at least in a conventional sense, they still 'survive').
Joy is the bookend to the story, the heart of the story is about the Doctor and Anita. I honestly think one of the reasons people evaluate Doctor Who differently now to fifteen years ago is that they used to watch the episodes over and over, and now they watch it once and compare it to that. Watch the episode a couple more times - it's a lot better than you think.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg I mean, if the heart is meant to be The Doctor and Anita, they really should've given her more time. Her character wasn't really defined, we don't know much about her relationship with The Doctor other than they got on. The episode gives more screentime to Joy, she showed up first - was the bookend, was played by a bigger name actress and was the one heavily featured in promotional material. All sighs point to her being intended as the big fixture. I'm not really the kind of person who rewatches episodes outside of rare occasions. The first time I saw Doctor Who I was roughly 8 or 9. I watched through most of it a second time a few years back. My opinions are based on single watch throughs and tend to shift after a few weeks have elapsed if at all. That being said, a few weeks have elapsed and I still feel the same as I did. The episode would've been made much better if they had picked one or the other to focus on - one big impact works better than a bunch of half baked ones.
It was a rather blah episode for me. The time hotel idea was pretty nifty but it was really only used as a plot device rather than actually intrinsic to the plot. The story was a bit disjointed at times (the year taking the long path felt a bit out of nowhere and went nowhere, for example). Overall, it was fine, if a bit forgettable. It did it's duty as a Christmas story so I guess it was a success.
Yeah that was my main issue with it too, it seemed a bit all over the place. Still enjoyed it and the general message. Christmas specials are always different anyways and like you said , it did the job!
Absolutely awful episode, barely Christmas themed, barely a story and the characters who needed the screen time barely got any either. Not looking forward to the new series at all
It was a great ep, really liked the message . Just a bit messy ! (And the holidays are going great thanks ! Hope you’re having a lovely Christmas too! ❤️)
"How dare Dr. Who make me feel things! "
😂
The longest time the Doctor has spent with a companion in the show is Handles at like 300 years... Yes, I'm counting Handles
Always count Handles. 11 must've spent so long just talking to him all alone at points that it's so sad when he goes.
You better count Handles.
"I would simply pass out if a man than fine walked in and offered me food"
Fking WORD (and if, you know, Jacob Anderson and Sam Reid were to say, come along with him while he was offering the food then the more the merrier! 🤣)
I just realized it was a year ago (last year's Who Christmas special) that I subbed to your channel and I'm so glad I did. Thanks for all the great content and I hope you had a great Christmas!
Awhhhh you’ve been here a YEAR ?! Thank you so much for sticking with me ❤️ (and happy holidays !)
Ps : BIG thumbs up for the IWTV reference !
@@katieoshaughnessy8086 I couldn't resist the reference! LOL You actually convinced me to watch IWTV to be honest (I'm sort of out of new shows to watch) so I was bored one day and watched your reaction to the season 3 trailer. Started watching the show when it dropped on Netflix earlier this year and now I'm a little obsessed so thank you (no snark) for that
I cried so many times during this episode, but I feel like it was one of the better scripts Ncutti has had so far.
Last years was definitely more fun. But I thought this one was a reminder of the melancholy that comes with the holidays, when you lose a loved one or you’re alone etc. It was very heartfelt and so I think it ultimately had more impact on me.
Yeah,I liked the themes of it. Just hit too close to home. I lost two grandparents this year so it kinda felt like being kicked in the gut with a reminder.
@ I’m so sorry to hear that ❤️🩹 Yeah when it catches you off guard like that I can definitely see it being a hard watch. And the promotion for the special did not convey at all it would be so…melancholy.
If you recall, Matt Smith's Doctor spent a year with Rory and Amy in the episode with all the little boxes.
That's one of the things I love about Doctor Who! For 11 living a year in earth was positively unbearable! It drove him bonkers, living time in order, not having constant danger and mystery and puzzles, but 15? No, he lives a year and has a blast, makes a friend and solves the mystery in the end! These are the same person but different characters and it just works!
Except they didn't spend the Year of the Slow Invasion on Earth. They left earth several times, leaving Brian to watch the cubes. And the Doctor left after four days and only returned for the last month.
This is probably the first time since Pertwee that the Doctor has spent a whole year just on Earth.
“We’re in a time when there’s TWO OF THEM!”😂
Steve Moffat writing a pun as a visual joke - in that scene we see the Doctor beside himself with Joy.
KATIE!!!! All Christmas-ed up and ready to emote!!! LOL!!!! THANKS so much!!!!
😁❤️
LOVE THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS! As for the story, it didn't feel too Christmas-y until the end and I figured out what star they were going for. As for Joy, I didn't care about her as much as I did the hotelier. She could count as a Companion! In fact, I definitely think there's space for a series of adventures in that time The Doctor was staying there.
"Hope and all that shit," indeed.
The Church on Ruby Road was indeed the Christmas special before this one and was more straightforward. This one has a lot of nods to previous stories, but ultimately I thought it an average episode. Have a happy new year, Katie.
He is in London. You can buy Police Boxes and Red Phone Booths as souvenirs.
This is in my personal top three new new Who episodes. I have struggled with RTD’s writing since he came back apart from a couple episodes, and this one being a Moffat episode made a big difference to me. Also good to have an episode fully committed to Ncuti, as we really missed that last season given he was away filming other things for most of it.
I have no doubt Ncuti can be a great doctor with the right writing (as this backed up), I just worry RTD’s best days are behind him, and he will never be able to produce quality like the Tennant era again.
Ruby was the saving grace for me last season and I’m gutted she has quit, there was obviously something she was incredibly unhappy with given she quit basically after one round of filming (most of next season was filmed back to back to last one). Possibly having to carry large parts of the show with Ncuti being away had something to do with it. I’m interested to see what the next companion is like, and with Ncuti available for more of the filming I’m hoping it will be better.
I thought this was well known by now, but those reports of her quitting or being fired were wrong.
Sorry but Tennant never had quality, he is so overrated.
@@mayotango1317Tennant's era was good, but it is overrated - especially in terms of nostalgia.
Right so The Doctor walks in with that food or Negan walks in with a plate of Spaghetti....
Who you picking? ...
*You cant pick both!*
The doctor for SURE !
(Negan would be a bloody nightmare to be around !! He’s got some great one liners but I’d boink him on the head with Lucille after a DAY!)
You're pyjamas are so cute or at least I they are pyjamas 😂their cute ❤
I didn't think The Doctor and Joy spent enough time together to make that last conversation work. Plus when Joy had the briefcase on her wrist she was brainwashed so it doesn't feel great to let her go blow herself up just because she's cool with it
The ending was so sad but so good
It was such a heartbreaking end !
@AlfieFulton The ending was fucking awful what the hell was that ending? They should never put religion in Dr. Who.
@@JudgeJosephDredd1989 did they put religion in Dr. Who? Does this not mean, that it was not the birth of Jesus that caused the star to appear.. But then again how dare they add Christian imagery in an episode celebrating a Christian holiday...
I think my biggest issue with the episode was how fast paced it was.
The problem I think primarily was that there were three characters Moffat wanted us to get attached to, but the issue is when you only have about an hour to do that - you need to work really hard to get a person to care about even one. There were no less than three characters that Moffat tried it with, and for me I think the result was that I didn't overly care too much for any of them? Not to say you can't pull it off, but it takes you actually focusing on them and not jumping around so much.
I think the episode would've been much improved in my opinion if we just focused on Joy and making us care about her, that way the ending has a lot more impact as opposed to kind of relying heavily on the emotions that a lot of people have regarding losing loved ones. As it stands I don't even remember the names of the hotel guy who died or the hotel girl who The Doctor was meant to have spent a year with because it was rushed past so fast. They should've either been cut from the episode or somehow more actively worked into the plot, likely only one of them otherwise you run into the same issue you had with Jodie's TARDIS team where you're struggling to characterize way too many people at once.
It seems like this episode was meant to serve the same purpose as like, Runaway Bride or Voyage of the Damned, where the goal here is to convey that the Doctor can't be alone - he needs a companion. The issue is that both of those episodes do a good job of conveying this, while also standing on their own as a good episode. Voyage of the Damned being a very good direct comparison, as much like here the companion doesn't survive the end of the story (at least in a conventional sense, they still 'survive').
Joy is the bookend to the story, the heart of the story is about the Doctor and Anita.
I honestly think one of the reasons people evaluate Doctor Who differently now to fifteen years ago is that they used to watch the episodes over and over, and now they watch it once and compare it to that.
Watch the episode a couple more times - it's a lot better than you think.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg I mean, if the heart is meant to be The Doctor and Anita, they really should've given her more time. Her character wasn't really defined, we don't know much about her relationship with The Doctor other than they got on.
The episode gives more screentime to Joy, she showed up first - was the bookend, was played by a bigger name actress and was the one heavily featured in promotional material. All sighs point to her being intended as the big fixture.
I'm not really the kind of person who rewatches episodes outside of rare occasions. The first time I saw Doctor Who I was roughly 8 or 9. I watched through most of it a second time a few years back.
My opinions are based on single watch throughs and tend to shift after a few weeks have elapsed if at all. That being said, a few weeks have elapsed and I still feel the same as I did. The episode would've been made much better if they had picked one or the other to focus on - one big impact works better than a bunch of half baked ones.
It was a rather blah episode for me. The time hotel idea was pretty nifty but it was really only used as a plot device rather than actually intrinsic to the plot. The story was a bit disjointed at times (the year taking the long path felt a bit out of nowhere and went nowhere, for example). Overall, it was fine, if a bit forgettable. It did it's duty as a Christmas story so I guess it was a success.
Yeah that was my main issue with it too, it seemed a bit all over the place. Still enjoyed it and the general message. Christmas specials are always different anyways and like you said , it did the job!
The whole long path part was some of the best character writing in RTD2 so far so
Bold prediction Anita is Mrs Flood @@katieoshaughnessy8086
@@benjamindavis4974 It was ok, it just didn't seem to fit with the rest of the episode.
Well apart from last 5 minutes rest was blahhhh
Not a fan on this been very disnsyfied 5 out of 10 preferred last year's effort
This is the worst episode of "Dr. Who" in it's 61 year history this is not science fiction this is a fantasy soap opera.
Twin Dilemma exist Orphan 55 exist
Absolutely awful episode, barely Christmas themed, barely a story and the characters who needed the screen time barely got any either. Not looking forward to the new series at all
This was written by Steven Moffat who hasn't written a episode in the upcoming series
I thought this was Moffat's best Christmas story. Hope you had a wonderful Christmas ❤
It was a great ep, really liked the message . Just a bit messy !
(And the holidays are going great thanks ! Hope you’re having a lovely Christmas too! ❤️)
My holidays were absolutely perfect thank you ❤️