Göktürks are quite underrated for the second largest nomadic empire in history only leaving the first place to another medieval Tengrist entity, the colossal empire of Chinggis
Theyre probably underrated because as was said, they didnt leave much writings about them behind, unlike the mongols who not only ruled the area of the gokturks which was mainly steppe land, but sedentary civilizations such as china and persia aswell.
Indeed. The Göktürks were different then the Mongols, in that they already were sedentary in parts when the first Roman diplomats met their rulers (think of Zemarchus meeting Istemi in Suyyab). Furthermore, they established very good relations with their neighbors early on (the Wei Chinese, the Koreans, then the Persians, Sogdians and lastly the Byzantines). But once they started invading other sedentary states like China and Persia, the opinion in those countries quickly changed towards the Göktürks. Still, I would not equate the Turkic Empires with the Mongols.
3:50 Now hold on. This legend holds a deep symbolic meaning. Namely, the she-wolf represents indigenous tribes that were associated with the wolves. Wolf was perhaps their totem. They took in and raised the prince who founded a ruling dynasty. The boy here represents the remnants of once mighty people, probably Scythians who dominated the steppes before the arrival of Xiognu. The boy without arms means he lost his armies; without legs - that his people(the foundation of his kingdom) were massacred. It was a common practice among nomadic tribes to obtain their names, specific traits and etc from their mothers’s side. For example one of the oldest Kyrgyz tribes called Bugu (female deer) is named so because of a mother deer that nurtrured and raised a pair of kids after everyone else died in a ruthless war. It is thought that this particular tribe is related to Evenks through their mothers. Bugu means deer in Evenk language too. But through their father they belong to the Right Wing group of tribes. They were also known as one of ancient Uighur allies (Pugu), meaning their origins go very far back in time. In a way these legends describe relationships and inter-mixing of different populations. They are not just fairy tales.
@@canerakyol9747 I’m afraid I can’t refer you to any scientific publication, at least not that I know of, that deals with this matter. Things like legends, indigenous belief systems and such held litle value to earlier scientists so they were not studied adequately.
Greetings, as a Turk it is very exciting to see a channel that delves into ancient Turkic history. Our ancient history is SEVERELY under-represented in media. It may be partly because most texts and manuscripts about Turkic people come from other cultures and are not common. Thank you for your works, they're very rare and very well made too! Kolay gelsin
Greetings! It’s quite rare to see english-speaking people discuss and teach Turkic history. I must say that I am very impressed. What motived you to learn more about this?
Hi, and thank you very much! I guess two factors played a role in my decision making. The first factor is personal. Being of Turkish origin, I always wondered where Turkish identity came from, and certain traditions. Later I became interested in the Turkish and Turkic langauges. As I started studying history at uni, I began research about the earliest Turkic peoples and stumbled upon the Göktürks. The second factor is the fact that early Turks are seriously underrepresented in media and even academia - which motivated me to start a blog where I told the origin story of the Göktürks in novel-like fashion. These short stories then developed into a video series which was of course based on facts, but where I also wanted to convey history in a more.. well, interesting manner. Fitting musical renditions, stunning visuals and, of course, a narration that people can actually follow without falling asleep after 30 seconds. So, that's basically the motivation for everything on this channel. That being said, thank you for watching and welcome! :)
@@KhansDen Wow! You are quite right, it was quite hard for me to find more information about the origin of Turks, and their place in history. Only a couple of lectures from early 2000s. Many thanks for educating us on such an important topic!
Eines Tages werde ich mich auf den Weg machen, um die Steppen der Mongolei und die Altai Berge zu besuchen und werde dort meine Vorfahren ehren. Hast du dir auch die Werke von Professor Ahmet Tasagil über die Göktürken durchgelesen?
"History of the Suí dinasty", chapter 84: The superiority of the Göktürks is in their cavalry and archers. When they are in a winning position, they advance with fury; but when danger comes, they withdraw with the speed of the wind, and disappear like lightning, without preserving order. Bows and arrows serve them as claws and fangs. Helmet and cuirass are their usual attire. Their detachments do not go in order, their camps do not stand still. They stop wherever they find grass and water; rams and horses provide food for their army. If they win, they stop and seek the wealth of the enemy; if they are defeated, they withdraw without any shame. They do not burden themselves with night duty, nor do they keep watch during the day; they do not waste their strength in building fortifications, or in storing provisions. But when Chinese soldiers go to war, they [Göktürks] behave very differently. If the Chinese enter the battle with the Göktürks, they [Chinese] rarely win. If we begin to imitate them now, if we adapt to their means, they will not be able to overcome us, and they will not attack us again. - Emperor Yang of Suí
Урян-Хай-Саха - Уран-Кай-Сак - Уран-Гай-Са ... Пора вынуть из сердца Кая осколки зеркала Снежной королевы, погрузившие его дух в забвение! Может быть тогда в иных красках заиграет легенда о сыне Урана и Гайи, титане Осеаn (Осень, Ясень, Асень, Осина, Ашина и пр.) Не забудьте, что Капитолийская Волчица изначально была Сиенской Волчицей, что является, лишь перепевом легенды о клане Ашина. Chino - щенок, волчонок ... Прислушайтесь о чём поёт ваша кровь, щенки! P.S. Алга Уран Гай!
That ten year old boy was the leader of this clan. His arms were cut from elbow his legs were cut from knee. It was a persecution for defeated dynasty leaders clan leaders in those times executed by cruel enemies like chinese and europeans.Turks never did that to their enemies even after defeat. He was thrown to a mud after persecution trapped to be attacked and eaten alive by wild animals Then a wolf appeared and took him away. Chinese thought wolf would eat him. Wolf took him to Altai mountains and healed his wounds. He lived with wolves and learned their way of social order, hunting, fighting and leader selection tactics. That is how Turks learned and used wolf tactics in wars and selecting leaders. She wolf fed him with her milk. That is why Turks see the wolf as their mother. Marrying boy with wolf is another version of the story. As wolf has taken him to Altai mountains the chinese attack was not a small village clan attack near chinese borders it was a war in Turkish lands near Altai mountains most likely it was an ambush in Ötüken as in Turkish folk stories. It is told that after turks realized it was an ambush men quickly gathered together to fight back but failed because enemy forces were large in numbers. Women took children and tried to escape to mountains. The boy most probably met them later.
Brother, I like your videos and want to learn more about Turkic history so I will definitely keep watching. However, no disrespect but I think you need some support with the narration - I think it could be improved in terms of quality and I hate to say this but accent as well. I mean no disrespect just hope this channel does well.
Oh no worries, I am aware of that. But for the newest videos, I have found someone with a British accent, and who can pronounce words crystal clear. He will also narrate the big Göktürk Movie that is gonna be released this Saturday. So thanks for the feedback, and keep an eye out.
Thanks a lot Efe. I am currently still using Premiere Pro, but thought about going over to Apple's Final Cut or Blackmagic's Davinci Resolve. Do you have any experience with video editors?
It's underway after Göktürk 3 has been released! I already conducted an interview with Prof. Peter B Golden, the Khazar expert himself, about this topic.
Absolutely true. The Uyghurs in the 8th century betrayed the entire Turkic world by allying with China constantly. I don't mean to judge, but that is a fact that is barely talked about even in academic circles.
@@KhansDen And what does the "ancient Turkic world" or modern one if you will have to do with the historical Türks? Türks were a small group of people likely not nomadic to begin with and perhaps even not "fully Turkic", who were forcefully relocated from their Qocho-Gansu homeland to Altai by their Rouran overlords , eventually overcoming all odds, primarily numerical, to become the masters of the eastern Steppes. This is quite clear from Türk stone monuments and Chinese records. Türks always call for unity and support of ancient Uyghurs and the Oghuz because the bulk of the army comprised from these two groups - natives of the region, and Chinese say that Türks are being heroic in the steppes through the hands of the Uyghurs. Chinese tend to often overexaggerate, however this shows the dependence of Türks on their Uyghur/Oghuz subjects. on the other hand, ancient Uyghurs of Mongolia considered Türks to be 'imposters', they are implying through their inscriptions that they were here before the Türks and that Türk Kaghanate was illegitimate. A hundred years later we find Uyghurs in their new homeland Qocho, the former homeland of the Türks, but Uyghurs already start calling themselves Türks (which would have nonsense and unthinkable during Kaganate time period), their language Uyghur-Türk and there are numerous descendants of the Türk elites such as Tonyukuk family living in the kingdom of Qocho many hundereds of years later after collapse of the Türk Kaghanate. The thing is ancient 'Turkic world' if there was ever such a thing had very little to do with Türks especially such groups as Qipchaqs. Türks were a unique, separate group of people and saying that modern day Turkic groups or the Turkic world can claim their ancestry, relation and continuation from the Türks is nonsense. It is like saying that modern Germanic peoples can claim their ancestry from the Visigoths.
Similiar, I would argue. But the further in time we go back, the stronger the connection between Turks and Chinese will get. Obviously, there is barely any cultural relationship between the Westernmost Turks of Anatolia and the Chinese within the past few centures, though.
@@NoMadMediaProductions Including of course the history of the Northern dynasties in China. The Wei, Western Wei, Northern Qi and Northern Zhou dynasties all descended from the Tuoba family which, for all we know, was Turkic. There was even a conflict in-between the sinicized people during the Wei dynasty about an order that would have forbidden to speak Turkic (or any other non-Chinese language), wearing Turkic clothes etc. So that comes to mind. Might explained the deep connections between the Wei, later Zhou, and the Göktürks. They fought together against the Qi, who by then had definitely left the "Turco-Chinese" cultural sphere. It was the Qi, too, who rebuilt parts of the Chinese Wall due to an imminent invasion by the Turks. The Wei and Zhou didn't.
All under heaven, oh Great Tengri, the sun moon and the trident/ (diving falcon ),flies in all flags of all nations, we have done as u have commanded, we have spread our bloodlines far, now more then half the world bears your mark of blessing, all their kings and holy men carry our bloodlines, we have torn down towers of those who say only us, we have infused the blood lines of the meek and they have truely inherited the earth, oh holy one, the blue bloods marked by your hand as we are born, the world will once more find peace in these turbulent times in the hands of the children of Mongol mark. * the seers and medicine man rejoice in all the glory. In silence the monpas have made the world ready to be as one under one divine mark. ® all under heaven all equal the holy trinity of man women and child under you and that all understanding and human achievement comes only from the holy trinity of knowledge, will and action.
Göktürks are quite underrated for the second largest nomadic empire in history only leaving the first place to another medieval Tengrist entity, the colossal empire of Chinggis
Theyre probably underrated because as was said, they didnt leave much writings about them behind, unlike the mongols who not only ruled the area of the gokturks which was mainly steppe land, but sedentary civilizations such as china and persia aswell.
Indeed. The Göktürks were different then the Mongols, in that they already were sedentary in parts when the first Roman diplomats met their rulers (think of Zemarchus meeting Istemi in Suyyab). Furthermore, they established very good relations with their neighbors early on (the Wei Chinese, the Koreans, then the Persians, Sogdians and lastly the Byzantines). But once they started invading other sedentary states like China and Persia, the opinion in those countries quickly changed towards the Göktürks.
Still, I would not equate the Turkic Empires with the Mongols.
3:50 Now hold on. This legend holds a deep symbolic meaning. Namely, the she-wolf represents indigenous tribes that were associated with the wolves. Wolf was perhaps their totem. They took in and raised the prince who founded a ruling dynasty. The boy here represents the remnants of once mighty people, probably Scythians who dominated the steppes before the arrival of Xiognu. The boy without arms means he lost his armies; without legs - that his people(the foundation of his kingdom) were massacred. It was a common practice among nomadic tribes to obtain their names, specific traits and etc from their mothers’s side. For example one of the oldest Kyrgyz tribes called Bugu (female deer) is named so because of a mother deer that nurtrured and raised a pair of kids after everyone else died in a ruthless war. It is thought that this particular tribe is related to Evenks through their mothers. Bugu means deer in Evenk language too. But through their father they belong to the Right Wing group of tribes. They were also known as one of ancient Uighur allies (Pugu), meaning their origins go very far back in time. In a way these legends describe relationships and inter-mixing of different populations. They are not just fairy tales.
interesting... can you share your resources please?
@@canerakyol9747 I’m afraid I can’t refer you to any scientific publication, at least not that I know of, that deals with this matter. Things like legends, indigenous belief systems and such held litle value to earlier scientists so they were not studied adequately.
Perfect. Thanks from Brazil.
Another fantastic video. Thoroughly enjoyed this one! 💪
Same!
awesome video, subscribed
3:08 Ocarina of Time Soundtrack fits perfectly here. Link in OOT is now officially based on Ancient Turkish Lore.
Greetings, as a Turk it is very exciting to see a channel that delves into ancient Turkic history. Our ancient history is SEVERELY under-represented in media. It may be partly because most texts and manuscripts about Turkic people come from other cultures and are not common. Thank you for your works, they're very rare and very well made too!
Kolay gelsin
Ayyy the OGs back!! Been missing that german accent
great video🐺 subtitles would be a great addition though
Old Turkic people when they see a Wolf: "Daaamn shee fine as hell"
xD
Hu Band from Mongolia song Wolf Totem,says it.
That she-wolf be TICC 🥵🥵
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Greetings! It’s quite rare to see english-speaking people discuss and teach Turkic history. I must say that I am very impressed. What motived you to learn more about this?
Hi, and thank you very much! I guess two factors played a role in my decision making. The first factor is personal. Being of Turkish origin, I always wondered where Turkish identity came from, and certain traditions. Later I became interested in the Turkish and Turkic langauges. As I started studying history at uni, I began research about the earliest Turkic peoples and stumbled upon the Göktürks. The second factor is the fact that early Turks are seriously underrepresented in media and even academia - which motivated me to start a blog where I told the origin story of the Göktürks in novel-like fashion. These short stories then developed into a video series which was of course based on facts, but where I also wanted to convey history in a more.. well, interesting manner. Fitting musical renditions, stunning visuals and, of course, a narration that people can actually follow without falling asleep after 30 seconds. So, that's basically the motivation for everything on this channel. That being said, thank you for watching and welcome! :)
@@KhansDen Wow! You are quite right, it was quite hard for me to find more information about the origin of Turks, and their place in history. Only a couple of lectures from early 2000s. Many thanks for educating us on such an important topic!
Eines Tages werde ich mich auf den Weg machen, um die Steppen der Mongolei und die Altai Berge zu besuchen und werde dort meine Vorfahren ehren.
Hast du dir auch die Werke von Professor Ahmet Tasagil über die Göktürken durchgelesen?
"History of the Suí dinasty", chapter 84:
The superiority of the Göktürks is in their cavalry and archers. When they are in a winning position, they advance with fury; but when danger comes, they withdraw with the speed of the wind, and disappear like lightning, without preserving order. Bows and arrows serve them as claws and fangs. Helmet and cuirass are their usual attire. Their detachments do not go in order, their camps do not stand still. They stop wherever they find grass and water; rams and horses provide food for their army. If they win, they stop and seek the wealth of the enemy; if they are defeated, they withdraw without any shame. They do not burden themselves with night duty, nor do they keep watch during the day; they do not waste their strength in building fortifications, or in storing provisions. But when Chinese soldiers go to war, they [Göktürks] behave very differently. If the Chinese enter the battle with the Göktürks, they [Chinese] rarely win. If we begin to imitate them now, if we adapt to their means, they will not be able to overcome us, and they will not attack us again.
- Emperor Yang of Suí
pure clean lawfull nation turks,,, what a history,,, more than 5000 years of legenderyyy.... mu vs atlantis,,,
Ethnic Türks: 🇹🇲🇺🇿🇰🇿🇰🇬Uyghur Salar hazara sakha etc
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Урян-Хай-Саха - Уран-Кай-Сак - Уран-Гай-Са ...
Пора вынуть из сердца Кая осколки зеркала Снежной королевы, погрузившие его дух в забвение! Может быть тогда в иных красках заиграет легенда о сыне Урана и Гайи, титане Осеаn (Осень, Ясень, Асень, Осина, Ашина и пр.)
Не забудьте, что Капитолийская Волчица изначально была Сиенской Волчицей, что является, лишь перепевом легенды о клане Ашина.
Chino - щенок, волчонок ...
Прислушайтесь о чём поёт ваша кровь, щенки!
P.S. Алга Уран Гай!
That ten year old boy was the leader of this clan. His arms were cut from elbow his legs were cut from knee. It was a persecution for defeated dynasty leaders clan leaders in those times executed by cruel enemies like chinese and europeans.Turks never did that to their enemies even after defeat. He was thrown to a mud after persecution trapped to be attacked and eaten alive by wild animals Then a wolf appeared and took him away. Chinese thought wolf would eat him. Wolf took him to Altai mountains and healed his wounds. He lived with wolves and learned their way of social order, hunting, fighting and leader selection tactics. That is how Turks learned and used wolf tactics in wars and selecting leaders. She wolf fed him with her milk. That is why Turks see the wolf as their mother. Marrying boy with wolf is another version of the story. As wolf has taken him to Altai mountains the chinese attack was not a small village clan attack near chinese borders it was a war in Turkish lands near Altai mountains most likely it was an ambush in Ötüken as in Turkish folk stories. It is told that after turks realized it was an ambush men quickly gathered together to fight back but failed because enemy forces were large in numbers. Women took children and tried to escape to mountains. The boy most probably met them later.
I interest history and I like this video.
Brother, I like your videos and want to learn more about Turkic history so I will definitely keep watching. However, no disrespect but I think you need some support with the narration - I think it could be improved in terms of quality and I hate to say this but accent as well. I mean no disrespect just hope this channel does well.
Oh no worries, I am aware of that. But for the newest videos, I have found someone with a British accent, and who can pronounce words crystal clear. He will also narrate the big Göktürk Movie that is gonna be released this Saturday. So thanks for the feedback, and keep an eye out.
@@KhansDen I'll definitly chim in. By the way, which video editor do you use? Your edits are well made.
Thanks a lot Efe. I am currently still using Premiere Pro, but thought about going over to Apple's Final Cut or Blackmagic's Davinci Resolve. Do you have any experience with video editors?
@@KhansDen Nice choices. No I don't have experience but I'm considering doing some basic edits for my own projects. Thanks for replying!
khan pls turkce version
Would be absolutely amazing to have a video focusing on the Khazar Khaganate. Very underrated and fascinating empire.
It's underway after Göktürk 3 has been released! I already conducted an interview with Prof. Peter B Golden, the Khazar expert himself, about this topic.
Most Göktürk remnant tribes got Mongolized and Kipchakized later on
Gokturks were slaughtered by the uighurs who even tried to destroy sculptures and monuments to erase any memory of them.
Absolutely true. The Uyghurs in the 8th century betrayed the entire Turkic world by allying with China constantly. I don't mean to judge, but that is a fact that is barely talked about even in academic circles.
@@KhansDen And what does the "ancient Turkic world" or modern one if you will have to do with the historical Türks? Türks were a small group of people likely not nomadic to begin with and perhaps even not "fully Turkic", who were forcefully relocated from their Qocho-Gansu homeland to Altai by their Rouran overlords , eventually overcoming all odds, primarily numerical, to become the masters of the eastern Steppes. This is quite clear from Türk stone monuments and Chinese records. Türks always call for unity and support of ancient Uyghurs and the Oghuz because the bulk of the army comprised from these two groups - natives of the region, and Chinese say that Türks are being heroic in the steppes through the hands of the Uyghurs. Chinese tend to often overexaggerate, however this shows the dependence of Türks on their Uyghur/Oghuz subjects. on the other hand, ancient Uyghurs of Mongolia considered Türks to be 'imposters', they are implying through their inscriptions that they were here before the Türks and that Türk Kaghanate was illegitimate. A hundred years later we find Uyghurs in their new homeland Qocho, the former homeland of the Türks, but Uyghurs already start calling themselves Türks (which would have nonsense and unthinkable during Kaganate time period), their language Uyghur-Türk and there are numerous descendants of the Türk elites such as Tonyukuk family living in the kingdom of Qocho many hundereds of years later after collapse of the Türk Kaghanate. The thing is ancient 'Turkic world' if there was ever such a thing had very little to do with Türks especially such groups as Qipchaqs. Türks were a unique, separate group of people and saying that modern day Turkic groups or the Turkic world can claim their ancestry, relation and continuation from the Türks is nonsense. It is like saying that modern Germanic peoples can claim their ancestry from the Visigoths.
@@tursuntongra6706 Germanic and Turkic are both ethno-linguistic groups
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7:35 Khitans were Para-Mongolic people but you probably mistakenly wrote “Mongols”
why you are denayin in your map to show south turkey and Turkmeneli
Is the relationship between the Turks and Chinese closer or the Turk/Persian/Islamic relationship closer?
Identical
Similiar, I would argue. But the further in time we go back, the stronger the connection between Turks and Chinese will get. Obviously, there is barely any cultural relationship between the Westernmost Turks of Anatolia and the Chinese within the past few centures, though.
@@KhansDen which ones further back in time, for example?
@@NoMadMediaProductions Including of course the history of the Northern dynasties in China. The Wei, Western Wei, Northern Qi and Northern Zhou dynasties all descended from the Tuoba family which, for all we know, was Turkic. There was even a conflict in-between the sinicized people during the Wei dynasty about an order that would have forbidden to speak Turkic (or any other non-Chinese language), wearing Turkic clothes etc. So that comes to mind. Might explained the deep connections between the Wei, later Zhou, and the Göktürks. They fought together against the Qi, who by then had definitely left the "Turco-Chinese" cultural sphere. It was the Qi, too, who rebuilt parts of the Chinese Wall due to an imminent invasion by the Turks. The Wei and Zhou didn't.
@@yo2trader539 can Turkic surnames be distinguished in China?
Türkçe altyazııııııııııııııı 🙃
Should be next to the boarder of Manchurian, not Korean
Your map is not acurate - Utigurs, Kutrigurs and Bulgars were the same people, the plase of the Bulgars was the plase of Bulgars 3 tribe Onogundurs
Asena best waifu 🥵
All under heaven, oh Great Tengri, the sun moon and the trident/ (diving falcon ),flies in all flags of all nations, we have done as u have commanded, we have spread our bloodlines far, now more then half the world bears your mark of blessing, all their kings and holy men carry our bloodlines, we have torn down towers of those who say only us, we have infused the blood lines of the meek and they have truely inherited the earth, oh holy one, the blue bloods marked by your hand as we are born, the world will once more find peace in these turbulent times in the hands of the children of Mongol mark. * the seers and medicine man rejoice in all the glory. In silence the monpas have made the world ready to be as one under one divine mark. ® all under heaven all equal the holy trinity of man women and child under you and that all understanding and human achievement comes only from the holy trinity of knowledge, will and action.
Göktürks destroyed their White Hun relatives😢
Zelda OoT all the way😂 👌
Сплошноё враньё.