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Dear admin, I have a request from you. Could you please make a video about the history of the Turkish states established in India? Delhi sultanate, Mughal Empire is one of them.. These empires are called Mongol states by western historians who are deliberately against the Turks.
I'm Hungarian by blood and my family hailed from Transylvania. I acknowledge my people's relationship to Turkic tribes, King Attila had Chuvas body guards, and Árpád has DNA connecting him to the Bashkirs as well. One issue I have is when Tukologists make statements where they attempt to exclude Hungarians from having a solid connection to the Huns and Magyars. My relatives are Székély and it is well known that this Transylvanian tribe has direct lineage to Attila, also the Székély clan name is derived from the Scythians.
😆 OK, lets face reality here. 99% of people outside of Asia are not descendants of Mongols or Xiongnu. Real Mongol, XiongNu are EAST ASIANS (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mongols). 99% of modern day Turkey are descendants of XiongNu slaves not real XiongNu, the 1% that look like East Asian are the REAL XiongNu. Stop trying to steal EAST ASIAN Identity! Do you look even a little like EAST ASIAN?
@@osmanisildak2448they're closeminded and brainwashed nationalists, which are equally insufferable across all religions, political ideologies, and countries
You are a Part of Turan. You are one of us! You belong to us!! Possibly your blood is more Turk as most turks who live in turkey!! Be proud and greetings from a yörük!
😆 OK, lets face reality here. 99% of people in Turkey are not descendants of Mongols or Xiongnu. Real Mongol, XiongNu are EAST ASIANS (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mongols). 99% of modern day Turkey are descendants of XiongNu slaves, the 1% that look like East Asian are the REAL XiongNu. Stop trying to steal EAST ASIAN Identity! Turks are not related to XiongNu or Mongols AT ALL. They are most likely Greek Slaves
@@bossman9758 Oghuz Turks see modu chanyu or "mete khan" as their ancestor. In legends they refer to him as "oghuz khagan". According to Turkish legends,oghuz khagan was adopted and fed my a female wolf when he was a baby after his tribe was destroyed. He then mated with the wolf and the wolf gave birth to Turks. This is the exact reason why grey wolf is the national animal of Turkey and grey wolf is the symbol of nationalism in Turkey. Yes, Oghuz Turks are the same Turks living in Turkey, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan. They migrated to anatolia because of the raids of other Turks and Mongols in the central asia. Turkish people are Oghuz Turks.
U are turk or hungarian? Im sure xiongnu blood runs in you. Im a chinese and my ancestor Han blood runs in me. probably our ancestor did cross swords before in the past. Hahahaha!
Modu and Mete are just CHINESE mispronunciations of Bagatur(in old chinese reading its Batur/Beter/M and B is interchangable in old chinese.)@@blackjackfragnetic
😆 OK, lets face reality here. 99% of people outside of Asia are not descendants of Mongols or Xiongnu. Real Mongol, XiongNu are EAST ASIANS (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mongols). 99% of modern day Turkey are descendants of XiongNu slaves not real XiongNu, the 1% that look like East Asian are the REAL XiongNu. Stop trying to steal EAST ASIAN Identity! Do you look even a little like EAST ASIAN?
All Xiongnu history is only recorded in China's history books in ancient Chinese. Without deep understanding of ancient Chinese, no one, including modern Chinese people, is able to understand Xiongnu's history. However, westerners have the courage to interpret the Xiongnu history arbitrarily to their needs.
These are short lived ancient nomadic people that came and went like sand storms. Can't stand the test of time like the Chinese civilization or the Roman empire and became historical dustbin.
@@hpw-ws6bj Yes, temporary, insignificant nomads destroyed Rome. He founded great states such as the European Hun State, the Seljuk State and the Ottoman Empire. You're right, it doesn't matter, right?
The earliest reference to the Mongols classifies them as a Tang dynasty tribe of Shiwei during the eighth century. It was only after the fall of the Liao dynasty in 1125 that they became an important tribe on the Central Asian steppe, but tribal wars weakened their power over the ensuing century. During the thirteenth century, the term Mongol was used to refer to the Mongolic and Turkic tribes who fell under the control of Genghis Khan. The Mongols are primarily a shamanist society; their central deity is the sky god Tenger. Native Peoples of the World: An Encyclopedia of Groups, Cultures and Contemporary Issues By Steven L. Danver, p.225
The most important function of any steppe empire is to apply the türe (the law).. That means it maintains peace within the clans. Solves disputes.. When you are herding animals there are lots of them...Mostly about the grasslands or the animals that run here or there... One theory about the origin of the word Turk is that it started as "Türük" (one that has Türe) This word still exists in modern Turkish in the form "töre" and means "imperative tradition".
The most important function of these Steppe Tribes are to attack Han tribes (Chinese Dynasties), and if they can‘t win, they move west to terrorise others. 😂
@@merrick6484 It is China .. the invader .. Just check where the chinese wall is now. It is inside China .. And there are over 20 languages spoken in "China" ..(The nations in the dragons stomach) They are originally from Tibet.. and with an explosion of population they invaded all around. Whereever you are, they will reach you too .. (if they did not already)
Although the Xiongnu were ethnically heterogeneous as a whole, it appears that variability was highly related to social status. Genetic heterogeneity was highest among retainers of low status, as identified by their smaller and peripheral tombs. These retainers mainly displayed ancestry related to the Chandman/Uyuk culture (characterized by a hybrid Eurasian gene pool combining the genetic profile of the Sintashta culture and Baikal hunter-gatherers (Baikal EBA)), or various combinations of Chandman/Uyuk and Ancient Northeast Asian Ulaanzuukh/Slab Grave profiles.[247] On the contrary, high status Xiongnu individuals tended to have less genetic diversity, and their ancestry was essentially derived from the Eastern Eurasian Ulaanzuukh/Slab Grave culture, or alternatively from the Xianbei, suggesting multiple sources for their Eastern ancestry.
😆 OK, lets face reality here. 99% of people in Turkey are not descendants of Mongols or Xiongnu. Real Mongol, XiongNu are EAST ASIANS (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mongols). 99% of modern day Turkey are descendants of XiongNu slaves, the 1% that look like East Asian are the REAL XiongNu. Stop trying to steal EAST ASIAN Identity! Turks are not related to XiongNu or Mongols AT ALL. They are most likely Greek Slaves
You are lying. Early Western Xiongnu demonstrated Chandman Scytho-Siberian origins. The early Eastern Xiongnu were mixed Chandman and East Asian Ulaanzuukh/Slab Grave profiles. The later Xiongnu were extremely mixed with additional influxes of Han and East Asians displacing paternal lines. The Kimaks-Kipchaks and Karluks who dominated Asia in the Middle Ages were directly Huns. Ancestral to the minor some Turkic-speaking groups in Russia. Whereas the modern Mongols and central Asian Turks are the late Xianbei-Xiongnu 13th century.
@@mr.purple1779 You cant change the fact that Mongol or XiongNu or "Turkic" look nothing like people of Turykey. They are just trying to claim a fake heritage.
In the case of Early Pre-Proto-Mongolic, certain loanwords in the Mongolic languages point to early contact with Oghur (Pre-Proto-Bulgaric) Turkic, also known as r-Turkic. These loanwords precede Common Turkic (z-Turkic) loanwords and include: • Mongolic ikere (twins) from Pre-Proto-Bulgaric ikir (versus Common Turkic ekiz) • Mongolic hüker (ox) from Pre-Proto-Bulgaric hekür (Common Turkic öküz) • Mongolic jer (weapon) from Pre-Proto-Bulgaric jer (Common Turkic yäz) • Mongolic biragu (calf) versus Common Turkic buzagu • Mongolic siri- (to smelt ore) versus Common Turkic siz- (to melt) The above words are thought to have been borrowed from Oghur Turkic during the time of the Xiongnu. Later Turkic peoples in Mongolia all spoke forms of Common Turkic (z-Turkic) as opposed to Oghur (Bulgharic) Turkic, which withdrew to the west in the 4th century. The Chuvash language, spoken by 1 million people in European Russia, is the only living representative of Oghur Turkic which split from Proto Turkic around the 1st century AD. Words in Mongolic like dayir (brown, Common Turkic yagiz) and nidurga (fist, Common Turkic yudruk) with initial *d and *n versus Common Turkic *y are sufficiently archaic to indicate loans from an earlier stage of Oghur (Pre-Proto-Bulgaric). This is because Chuvash and Common Turkic do not differ in these features despite differing fundamentally in rhotacism-lambdacism (Janhunen 2006). Oghur tribes lived in the Mongolian borderlands before the 5th century, and provided Oghur loanwords to Early Pre-Proto-Mongolic before Common Turkic loanwords. Golden 2011, p. 31.
The Xiongnu Empire is the first Mongol-Turkish empire in world history. At this time, the Xiongnu Empire, the world's strongest military empire, conquered Siberia, East Asia, Central Asia, West Asia, and North Asia. And there was a fierce war with the ancient Chinese Emperor Wu of Han for world supremacy. The Xiongnu Empire is a world-class empire made up of Mongols, Iranians, and Turks. The most representative descendants of the Xiongnu Empire are Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Turkey, Hungary, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and Azerbaijan, and they praise and serve their own history, the Xiongnu Empire. Turkey designated the founding date of the Xiongnu Empire, when 'Modu Chanyu' founded the Xiongnu Empire, as the official founding date of Turkey's army.
@@James-sn5mg the roman empire is recognize as the best empire dyuring that era. The xiongnu lost its advantage due to being cocky and waking up the tiger. During the eatrly han xiongnu watr, the xiongnu held massive advantage against the han.
@yoloi2470 no the romans were not the best empire during that era. It's not like you lived in that era. The ones that claim that are western historians only. China and India have always been greater than the overrated romans and the greeks
Xiong-nu language in Chinese inscriptions 撑犁 (Chēng lí) 撑犁 term in Chinese inscriptions is associated with the old Turkic tengri. Tengri means sky. 瓯脱 (Ōu tuō) 瓯脱 means room[7]. Borrowed from Proto-Turkic *otag[8], also reconstructed as *ōtag. Although linguists concentrate on *otag, since long vowels are not preserved in languages that need to be protected, there are also those who claim that it is derived from the Proto-Turkic word *ōtwhich means fire(see Proto-Turkic Vocabulary lesson). *otag means tent or room, but also fireplace is suggested. 头曼 (Tóu màn) The name Touman is likely related to a word meaning '10,000, a myriad' Old Turkic tümän
To assume Xiongnu had euro-central Asia origin just because present day Turkish is spoken there is just wrong thinking and goes against the very idea of Xiongnu migration. It's much more likely that the Turkish originated as an East Asia/Central Asia language and later migrated westward together with the Xiongnu.
😆 OK, lets face reality here. 99% of people in Turkey are not descendants of Mongols or Xiongnu. Real Mongol, XiongNu are EAST ASIANS (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mongols). 99% of modern day Turkey are descendants of XiongNu slaves, the 1% that look like East Asian are the REAL XiongNu. Stop trying to steal EAST ASIAN Identity! Turks are not related to XiongNu or Mongols AT ALL. They are most likely Greek Slaves
Sino-centric is as bad as euro-centric. Asia is not a monolith, also the Tarim mummy says other wise…the word “Asia” is an Anatolian term. 750 Bc is as far back Chinese chronicles go, even though there were shang,xia, and 3 sovereigns and 5 emperors. These cultures could of been brought through the hexi corridor establishing shannxi first kingdom. Hexi corridor brought horses, bronzes, crops, divine ruler ship…mongols were tangut brought as plebeians and are recent.
"The Xiongnu first appear in Chinese historical records about the 5th century BCE, when their repeated invasions prompted the small kingdoms of North China to begin erecting what later became the Great Wall. The Xiongnu became a real threat to China after the 3rd century BCE, when they formed a far-flung tribal confederation under a ruler known as the chanyu, the rough equivalent of the Chinese emperor’s designation as the tianzi (“son of heaven”). They ruled over a territory that extended from western Manchuria (Northeast Provinces) to the Pamirs and covered much of present Siberia and Mongolia. The Xiongnu were fierce mounted warriors who were able to muster as many as 300,000 horseback archers on their periodic intrusions into North China, and they were more than a match for the much less-maneuverable chariots of the Chinese. The completion of the Great Wall along the whole of China’s northern frontier during the Qin dynasty (221-206 BCE) slowed but did not stop the Xiongnu. The early Han dynasty rulers attempted to control them by marrying their leaders to Chinese princesses. But Xiongnu raids against China continued periodically until the Han emperor Wudi (reigned 141/140-87/86 BCE) initiated a fiercely aggressive policy against the nomads, sending expeditions into central China to outflank them and to negotiate alliances with their enemies. These expeditions led to the Chinese conquest of the state of Chosŏn in northern Korea and southern Manchuria and the Chinese exploration of Turkistan."
There are 56 ethnic groups in China. There are also many nomadic peoples in the Mongolian Plateau. Thinking that all 56 ethnic groups in China are Han is as ridiculous as saying that all nomads (tribes) are Huns or Turks. China has detailed records of each nomadic people. Because all the nomads are at war with the Han. During the Warring States period, Qin, Zhao, and Yan built Great Walls to deal with different nomadic peoples. The Han people had 5,340 wars and civil wars with all ethnic groups. After the Qin State wiped out two nomadic peoples and defeated the Xiongnu, they unified and built all the Great Walls. Finding your own ancestors requires a basis. And use genetics effectively. In Türkiye today, the real Turks are the yellow race. Genetic tests show that 90% are Eastern Roman Greeks and Armenians who were conquered by pseudo-Turks. English-speaking Filipinos and Indians, and East Africans are not British. Likewise, speaking Turkic (the lingua franca of the steppe) is not Turkic.
The Xiongnu were defeated and divided by the Han Dynasty, with some fleeing to Eastern Europe, some under the jurisdiction of the Han Dynasty, and some regularly paying tribute to the Han Dynasty until the Three Kingdoms period after the fall of the Han Dynasty. The southern Xiongnu wanted to break away from the Han Dynasty and gain independence, but were defeated by Cao Cao. After the end of the Three Kingdoms period, the new successor dynasty, the Jin Dynasty, had the opportunity to rise again due to civil war and corruption. The southern Xiongnu seized the opportunity to occupy the northwest region of China and establish the Han Dynasty, Yes, you guessed it right. The southern Xiongnu claimed to be the inheritors of the Han Dynasty, but the New Han Dynasty quickly perished, with some of the remaining Xiongnu people integrating into China and some being replaced by the Rouran tribe in the north
@@MuTong-k3sAnatolians are neither "Turk" nor "Greek". They are Anatolian: their own ancient race. Moreover, Turks in Turkey don't claim to be an ethnic group, but instead a nationality. As the Father of the Türks, Atatürk, said: "How happy is the one who says 'I am a Turk'". Similarly, in Central Asia, the several nomadic tribes were united under the name "Xiongnu". Ask someone from Turkey today what they are. No matter how different they may look, they will most certainly answer "I am a Turk".
Hu(胡) means barbarians, therefore Dong-Hu (東胡) means "Eastern Barbarians" Dong-Hu (東胡,Eastern babarians) is the predecessor of 鮮卑(Xian-be), 柔然(Rou-Ran), 蒙古(Meng-Gu, Mongols), 契丹(Qi-Dan, Khitans), 女真(Nu-Zhen, Jurchen) and 滿洲(Man-Zhou, Manchurians). Apparently they are either Mongolic or Tungustic language speaking tribes but not Turkic. In contrast, 突厥(Tu-Jue, Turks), 回紇(Hui-He, Uyghurs), 黠郟斯(Xia-Jia-Su, Kyrgyzs) are Turkic language Speaking tribes. According to the Chinese sources, They are from Jin- Shan (金山, golden mountains, Altai mountains) which is west of Mongolian plateau! They are not part of Dong-Hu(Eastern babarians) and originated from different locations. Therefore Turkic people are not related to the Mongolic and Tugustic language speaking people.
You are absolutely right. The Turks don’t even know their history in depth, they often confused the two divides. Mongolic or Tungustic are from the Far East whereas Turkic are from the Altai Mountains they are quite distinct. Chinese distinguishes them by referring to them as Eastern Barbarians and Western Barbarians.
@@middleeastrenwarriormen1017 maybe, 丁零（Ding-Ling） is a Turkic tribe north of Xiong-Nu mentioned in the Chinese sources during the Han dynasty in the 1st and 2nd century AD. They attacked Xiong-Nu frequently from Lake Baikal and later migrated to Sarmakand in Central Asia after the disintegration of Xiong--Nu Chanyuate in the 3rd century AD. Those who remained in their homeland Lake Baikal were probably the ancestors of later Uyghurs which was north of Gokturks in the 7th century AD.
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele. - Xin Tangshu, 232 Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車，[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異，或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu” According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday. Weishu, Vol. 102 "其風俗言語與高車同，而其人清潔於胡。俗剪髮齊眉，以醍醐塗之，昱昱然光澤，日三澡漱，然後飲食。" Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation. Linghu Defen et al., Book of Zhou, Vol. 50. (in Chinese)
@@عليياسر-ذ5ب When did this happen? As far as I know, for more than 1000 years, people descended from the Huns dominated from Western Eurasia to India, from Egypt to the middle of Europe. Not to mention the Mongol empire period.
This can be surmised by analysing the names of Hunnic princes and tribes. The names of the following Hunnic princes are clearly Oghuric Turkic in origin: Mundzuk (Attila’s father, from Turkic Muncˇuq = pearl/jewel; for an in-depth discussion of the Hunnic origin of this name in particular see Schramm (1969), 139-40), Oktar/Uptar (Attila’s uncle, Öktär = brave/powerful), Oebarsius (another of Attila’s paternal uncles, Aïbârs = leopard of the moon), Karaton (Hunnic supreme king before Ruga, Qarâton = black-cloak), Basik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, early fifth century, Bârsig˘ = governor), Kursik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, from either Kürsig˘ , meaning brave or noble, or Quršiq meaning beltbearer). For these etymologies see Bona (1991), 33. Three of Attila’s known sons 40 have probable Turkic names: Ellac, Dengizich, Hernak, and Attila’s princi pal wife, the mother of the ‘crown prince’ Ellac, has the Turkic name Here kan, as does another notable wife named Eskam. See Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 392-415. See also Bona (1991), 33-5, and Pritsak (1956), 414. Most known Hunnic tribal names are also Turkic, Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 427-41, e.g. Ultincur, Akatir etc. The cur suffix in many of these names is a well-known Turkic title and as Beckwith (1987), 209, points out the To-lu or Tardus tribes (Hunnic in origin) of the Western Turkish On Oq were each headed by a Cur (noble). Zieme (2006), 115, speculates that the title cur belongs to a pre-Turkic Tocharian stratum of the Turkic language, which, if true, again highlights the essential heterogeneity of Central Asian peoples and even languages. See also Aalto (1971), 35. In addition to this primary language (Oghuric Turkic), Priscus informs us that Latin and Gothic were also understood by the Hunnic elite. See Priscus, fr. 13.3, Blockley (1983), 289. Mclaughlin, Professors Hyun & Lieu, Rome and China: Points of Contact (Routledge, 2021)
For all recorded Hunnic names of Turkic origin ; Aigan = moon prince; from Turkic aï & can Alp Ilutuer / Ilteber = heroic chieftain; from Turkic alp & iltäbär Althias = six; from Turkic Alti Akkagas = white rock; from Turkic ak & kayač Atakam = elder shaman; from Turkic ata & kam Balach = calf; from Turkic Malaq Berik = strong; from Turkic Berık Basik = governor; from Turkic Bârsiğ Bleda = wise; from Turkic Bildä Bochas = either gullet; from Turkic Boğuz; or bull, from Buqa Dengizich = ocean-like, little sea; from Turkic teɲez & dêɲri; or simply, great lake Donat / Donatu = horse; from Turkic Yonat Edeco = good; from Turkic Ädgü Ellac = to rule; from Turkic el & lä Emmedzur = horse lord; from Turkic Ämäcur Eskam / Esqam = companion of the shaman; from Turkic eŝ & kam Erekan / Kreka = pure princess; from Turkic Arïqan Ernakh / Hernac = small man, heroic man; from Turkic Ernäk Iliger = prince man; from Turkic ilig & är Karadach = black mountain; from Turkic Qaradağ Karaton = black cloak; from Turkic Qarâton Kursik = either noble; from Turkic Kürsiğ; or belt-bearer, from Qurŝiq Kutilzis = blessed herald; from Turkic kut & elči Mundzuk = bead; from Turkic Munčuq Oebarsius / Aybars = moon leopard, from Turkic Aïbârs; or dun leopard, from oy & bars Oldogan / Odolgan = either red falcon; from Turkic al & dogan; or chubby, from Tolgun Onegesius = either twelve; from Turkic oneki; or tumen chief, from Oniyiz Oktar / Uptar = brave; from Turkic Öctär Ruga / Rua = wise man; from Turkic Ögä Turgun = still, calm; from Turkic Turkun Uldin = six; from Turkic Alti Zolban = shepherd star; from Turkic Čolpan
Some ignorant people misinterpreted the message of Genghis Khan the Great to the Taoist sage and carried the message more than it could bear. While the text of Genghis' message is clear and talks about the history of the eastern steppes only, since the era of the Xiongnu, the eastern steppes have not known an empire so large in terms of area as the empire of Genghisid. This is what was stated in the text of the letter: “It seems to me that since the remote time of our shan yü such a vast empire has not been seen”.
The xiongnu was a unique enigmatic mobile empire in history that even spanding hundred years of wars against their sedentary adversary in multiple fronts across thousand miles
Such a perfect video! I always wanted a summary video of my ancestors like this! Thank you so so much! 🐺🏹🐎 But why is he still called Maodun/ Mete Han and not changed to Batur?
😂 This is a misinformed Video. The Chinese destroyed all Steps people including the Mongols. These so called "Turks" were slaughtered by the Han Chinese, this is why they are now in exile. FACT: These "Turks" dont ever want to live near Han Chinese anymore because they know they will be destroyed. Just use your brain, Chinese are still in China. Where the fuk are these "huns" and "Turkic"? Stop making fake video that glorify a weak group of goat herders.
I think its maybe not Batur, but Bator, since Mongolian capital is Ulan Bator, and Bator in Hungarian means Brave, altought Ur means lord or guardian, and Hadur means warlord.
@@KhansDen Actually most of the records mentioned in this video are from Chinese history books, especially the famous "Records of the Grand Historian of China"（史记）
Well, yes? There is a difference however between using ancient Chinese sources and taking modern-day Chinese narratives about the non-Chinese peoples. Just take a look at the comments if you want to know how the latter plays out. @@Shadowless_Kick
@@KhansDen Modern day Chinese narratives about Xiongnu are based on ancient history books therefore there is no big difference. As a matter of fact, today’s view of the “north barbarians” is probably less negative because modern science confirms that today’s Chinese people carry some DNA of Xiongnu and other northern nomadic ethnic minorities.
As this time depth coincides with the beginning of the Xiongnu empire (209 BCE-100 CE), the association of Xiongnu with Proto-Bulgharic does not seem unreasonable. However, given the relatively large credible interval involved in the Bayesian dating, the breakup of proto-Turkic may also be connected with the first disintegration of the Xiongnu confederation under influence of the military successes of the Chinese in 127-119 BCE (Mudrak 2009). In sum, the time depth of the breakup of Proto-Turkic can be estimated between 500 BCE and 100 CE. Martine Robbeets, Remco Bouckaert, Bayesian phylolinguistics reveals the internal structure of the Transeurasian family, Journal of Language Evolution, Volume 3, Issue 2, July 2018
Its pitty that Chinese Dynasties have to face these powerfull Normads from Siberia for thousands of years, the Xiongnu, the Turkic and the mighty Mongolians. However, only Mongolians succesfully conquer entire China for a period of 68 years. So, building the Great Wall does work.😂
Hello Khans Den! Thanks a lot for all your efforts about your presentations! However, I think you dont know much about turkic ancestry just as much as eurocentric written turkic history. Eurocentric written turkic history starts just in 1st century BC and do not match with recent futuristic genetic ydna studies. As a curious follower and rational, sensible researcher, I was looking into language maps and individual haplogroup maps and I have realized some topics without being a genetic or linguistic scientist. Some language subgroups do match with some ydna haplogroups. First of all, I want to give my discoveries: C2 - proto austronesians C3 - mongolic, tungusic C4 - australians, pacificans D - tibetans, burmans, ainu E1a - niger-congo, bantu E1b1 - kushitic, egyptians, hellenic E1b2 - berberic, nortwest africans F - proto indoeuropean, early farmers G - georgians, caucasian arians H - south indians, partly dravidians I1 - germanic, nordic, anglic visigoths I2 - slavic, balkanic, ukrainian ostrogoths J1 - arabic, aramic, semitic, hebrew J2 - grecoromans, persians, baktrians K - proto agglutinative language speakers L & T - sanskrit, vedic, west indians M & S - sundaland, papuans N - finnic, uralic, north asians O1 - south chinese, sinotic O2 - indonesians, austroasiatic O3 - manchurians, koreanic, japonic P - proto northeast asians, altai, tuva, nivkh Q - yeniseians, native americans R - uyghur turkic, tagar culture R1* - altai, tuva, uyghur turkic R1a - european, indian huns, oghur/oghuz R1b - asian, european saka/scythians, bashkirs R2 - dravidians, sri lanka As you can see C3, P (possibly hunnic, mongolic) haplogroups are northeast asians as descendants of C3, N, O3, P ancient northern east asians (ANEA) as classified in wiki. Their ancestor K2 was located in southeast asia together with D tibetoburmans and C2 austronesians, but they left there by a reason and migrated to north china (Liao region) as mutated to C3, N, O1, O2, O3, P as you can see their linkage. Also, if we inspect language families uralic-altaic languages match with C3, N, O3, P haplogroups. Even O1 haplogroup matches with sinotic language. As a new language family (not exactly proven, but today accepted) Dene-Caucasian language family is also agglutinative language family. Some indoeuropean lovers intentionally distort genetic studies by erasing linkage between P and Q, R haplogroups. Q and R haplogroups and their descendants R1, R1a, R1b, R2 are actually mutated from P (possibly hunnic) northeast asians. As P haplogroup are related to uralic-altaic people, their descendants should have linguistic linkage to uralic-altaic and related dene-caucasian (also maybe polisynthetic) languages. Actually there are linkages accepted for Q haplogroup but R haplogroups are commented as indoeuropean, because some of R1a, R1b have been assimilated to indoeuropean languages during history. As far as I understand from history, I have some comments which are combined to historic, genetic, linguistic, archeologic studies about saka/scythian and hunnic people of northeast asia, east and west euroasia, central, south, southwest and west asia, east and west europe. In my opinion, R1, R1a, R1b, R2 descendants of P haplogroup have mixed with J2 grecoroman and persian, G south caucasian arian, georgian, H south indian, I1 germanic, nordic visigoth, I2 slavic, balkanic, central european, ukrainian ostrogoth, L vedic sanskrit west indian people and assimilated to indoeuropean languages. R and R1* ancestors of R1a and R1b people were living in east euroasia as hunnic, turkic tribes. Firstly some R1a have started to migrate into central asia and mutated to R1a in ice age. (after 25k BC) They were mostly elder Saka people and called as foreign people by old persian king I. Darius (persian of persians, arian of arians) even in late ages. After they have been defeated by persians, they started to become iranic partly (originally hunnic, turkic). Also, some of saka, hunnic, turkic people have migrated to north india as R1a haplogroup but as assimilated to iranic languages. Also, some group have passed over caucasia and became north caucasians as ancestors of Yamnaya, Andronovo, Afanasievo cultures. Those Yamnaya cultures also spread to east and north europe and balkans as tatars. In 6.5k BC, they also produced tatarlaka tablets in elder agglutinative language. They have even reached until scandinavia and mixed with I1 germanic, nordic visigoths; reached until balkans and mixed with I2 slavic, central european, ukrainian ostrogoths time by time. Also another mutation inside R1a have occurred in central asia (Turkmenstan) as R1b in early 20-25k BC. Those R1b saka people separately passed to mesopotamia as Sumer (Sakir) and mixed with J1 aramic, akkadians, J2 babylonians, persians, G georgians, caucasian arians. They have protected their elder agglutinative language and spread to anatolia, caucasia. They also spread to balkans, central europe and north italy as Tur, Sak people who were united back in Etruscan people. Etruscan people had a agglutinative language and was calling themselves as Rasenna similar to Ashina dynasty of Göktürks. They had cities called Kurt'un, Tark(a)n'a and they named Rum'a of grecoroman new capital city of Roman Empire in Italy. Some groups of R1b Sak people migrated also into central, west, southwest and northwest europe and they named themselves as Saksons, Basq (Eu-sak-ara), Occitan (Eu-scythian), Scottish (Sak-ottish) etc. Southern Saks and Etruscans (eu-Tur-eu-Sak) have lost against grecoroman empire and invented latin language as mixed with J2 grecoroman language. Also, northern Saks have mixed with I1 germanic, anglic, nordic visigoths and converted to germanic languages. They even reached until norway, iceland as germanic language speakers. But, their origin was agglutinative and vasconic languages as linked to R1b basq (Euskara) people who have remained isolated and still speaking vasconic language. Because, N, O1, O2, O3, P, Q, R, R1, R1a, R1b, R2 people are genetically relative and most of those people were originally speaking agglutinative languages including uralic, altaic and dene-caucasian languages. So we should call them as our relative Saka/Hunnic people of Indoeurope. Note, just to inform, Dene-Caucasian languages: Sinotibetan, Yeniseian, NaDene, Atabasqan, Algic, Almosan, Burushaski hunza, Sumerian, North caucasian, Tyrsenian, Raetic, Etruscan, Vasconic, Basq, also maybe includes tamil dravidian and even other unclassified related languages...
The history of the Gaoju is given in the respective entry in WS 103 + (pp. 2505-2508); until the beginning of Text 1.056/B it is extracted as follows. 高車,蓋古赤狄之餘種也初號為狄歷,北方以為敕勒,諸夏以為高車、丁零。 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之也。 The Gaoju are probably the remaining tribes of the ancient Chidi [lit. 'the red Di']. Initially they were called Dili. People in the north called them Chile, whereas people in China proper called them Gaoju or Dingling. *Their language is roughly the same as that of the Xiongnu* but at times has minor differences from that. Some say that their ancestors were the nephew of [i.e. indirectly related to] the Xiongnu. Note:Gaoju means Tiele, one of the oldest ancient Turkic tribes.
There is something wrong with the map around the 14 minute mark. The Goguryeo and Korea labeled on your map is the situation in the 6th century, there was no Goguryeo in this period, it should be Wiman joseon.
16:38 what a failure this video is. You are talking about the warring state era yet you showed an image of the three kingdom period 😓 There was no “Emperor Qin” but the XXX (Tittle) King XXX (name) of Qin; Qin was the name of the state and the head was a duke claiming to be a King. The corresponding Chinese word for emperor Huangdi hadn’t been invented yet
In a matter of decades Modu united all of eastern Inner Asia and created an empire larger than that of Alexander the Great. The standing army of the Xiongnu was also expanded to 300,000 men, now a match for the huge armies of Han China.
To be honest, these Siberian/ Altay Steppe tribes are real good at war. But Chinese dynasties aren‘t doing to bad to hold their ground from waves of attack last few thousand years.
@@merrick6484 The seems good at war because if the life style, no permanent settlements, no permanent production sites. the cost of war was so low, any civilization that had permanent settlements were at disadvantages. Same with the mongols. If they need food during war, they will just loot surrounded villages. For the other side, how do they loot the nomadics, they got nothing. Nomadics wouldn't even engage when at disadvantage, and you can't really chase them too far due to food supplies.
1 There are 56 ethnic groups in China. Similarly, there are many nomadic peoples living on the vast Mongolian plateau. It is ridiculous to think that all 56 ethnic groups in China are Han, or that all nomads (tribes) in the grasslands of northern China are Huns and Turks. 2 As the only historical recorder of the northern nomads, China has detailed records for each nomad. Because all the nomads engaged in massive wars with the Han. Each nomad has a large number of captives to interrogate. So the accuracy of history books is very high. A total of 5,340 wars and civil wars occurred between the Han nationality and various ethnic groups. 3. The real Turks are the yellow race. According to the historical records of the Han nationality, the Turkic Khan refused to give a high official to the tribal leader because he looked like a Huren (caucasian). 4. Finding one's own ancestors requires a foundation. And use genetics effectively. Genetic tests show that 90% are Eastern Roman Greeks and Armenians who were conquered by the Pseudo-Turks. 5 English-speaking Filipinos, Indians and East Africans are not British. Likewise, speaking Turkic (the lingua franca of the steppe) is not Turkic. None of the 56 ethnic groups that speak Chinese is Han. 6 The Turks and Huns were among a dozen powerful nomadic peoples who disappeared on the bloody Mongolian steppes, and they were all losers in the northern steppes. In the Mongolian grasslands in the north, only Mongolian and Xianbei (fishing and hunting peoples) survive. 7 The Tocharians in Xinjiang are Persians from the Iranian plateau. They speak Old Persian and come from the Indus Valley. After 840 AD, the Uighurs entered Tarim, and the Tocharian language gradually disappeared. 8 Chinese history books have continuously recorded the history of nomads in the northern grasslands for 3,000 years, reflecting the actual situation at that time. is the only reference definition. It cannot be intentionally curved or artistic. 9 The conquest of the Eastern Romans in Anatolia by the Pseudo-Turks (Turkic-speaking tribes) was of exactly the same nature as the conquest of China by the Manchurians in 1644. A small number of nomads took over the populated areas. It is as absurd for the Anatolians to say that they are Turks from northern China, just as the Han people say that they are from the northern grasslands.
@@MuTong-k3s söylediklerinin bir kısmı doğru. Türkler beyaz Turanid ırktandı ve ırktan bunu bazı kişiler Moğol istilasına bağlar ama yalandır. Selçuklu da Moğol istilasından önce çekik gözlü beyaz tenli insanların minyatürleri yapılmıştı ve günümüz Türkiye Türklerinden de çekik gözlü beyaz tenli belirgin elmacık kemikli insanlar var ve Türkiye de çoğu insan böyle görünüyor ayrıca Hunlar Türktü Hunlar Türk değilse kimse Türk değildi çünkü GökTürkler Hunların devamıydı ve Hun gelenekleri eski Türk gelenekleriyle aynıydı. Mete Han (Hun hükümdarı) Türkler tarafından destansılaştırılmıştı. Zaten Türkiye Türklerinin hepsinde Turanid genler yok ve hepsi çin yakınlarında yaşayan Türklerden değildi daha batıda yaşayan Türkler de Anadoluya geldi. Hunlardan önce Alp Er Tunga da anadoluyu türkleştirmişti.
The Xiongnu were very good at escaping and hiding in the steppes, the Chinese spend 90% of war time and huge resource, to just searching for their location, once found out Xiongnu army, they escaped again
*proceeds to name mongol names as being the leader and how they called themselves hunnu. All of these are mongol words and names, yet continues to call them turks. Jesus christ. Please stop saying the xiongnu and the huns as being turks. They were the same people whose children eventually built the mongol empire. There were mongol clans and turkic clans but were all essentially the same people who had differences in only language. Call it what it is. Hunnu (which directly translates to people). We were the people of the steppes who lived and fought together
Mongol? Where? By 0 AD, when the Xiongnu were at their climax, there were NO Mongol-speaking people in the core of the empire. This has been stated over and over again by linguists, and archeologists as well as historians have proven that the Mongol tribes like Donghu were at the EDGE of what is nowadays Mongolia. The fact that you are equating everything that ever happened in the country now known as "Mongolia" with the Mongols is a logic that we can of course apply to Turkey, and how the Roman and Byzantine Empires because... well. The country is named "Turkey" today. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it? You should take your time and try to understand what terms like "Migration" mean. Then you'll eventually understand what this video is about.
What the hell. The core of the Huns were Mongols. Turkic-speaking tribes were ruled. It has nothing to do with today's Turks. Stop spreading false information
@@KhansDen en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiongnu See genetic research. All Xiongnu burial now in Mongolia. See also en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noin-Ula_burial_site
@@papazataklaattiranimam i don't need support haha. The whole world knows that Mongolians are descendants of Huns. Turks also have nothing to do with today's Turkey. Even Allah can't help you with that hehe
@@erdenebatbat-amgalan1488 Moğollarla Hun'lar ne alaka? moğolların tarihten bugüne kadar eti ne budu ne? Kalkmış imparatorluklar yıkıp imparatorluklar kuran Türklerle kendinizi kıyaslıp boy ölçüşmeye kalkıyonuz, Türkler olmasaydı moğollar yok olup gitmişti varlığınızı bile Türklere borçlusunuz
The origin of Turks in the Chinese Chronicle 《Bei Shi 》( 北史, history of the Northern dynasties, from 386AD~618AD,compiled in 659 AD) records as : 突厥者，其先居西海之右，獨為部落，蓋匈奴之別種也。姓阿史那氏。後為鄰國所破，盡滅其族。有一兒，年且十歲，兵人見其小，不忍殺之，乃刖足斷其臂，棄草澤中。有牝狼以肉餌之，及長，與狼交合，遂有孕焉。彼王聞此兒尚在，重遣殺之。使者見在狼側，並欲殺狼。於時若有神物，投狼於西海之東，落高昌國西北山。山有洞穴，穴內有平壤茂草，周迥數百里，四面俱山。狼匿其中，遂生十男。十男長，外托妻孕，其後各為一姓，阿史那即其一也，最賢，遂為君長 The origin of Turks was a 10-year-old boy from a tribe which is a descendant tribe of Xiong-Nu ( Huns ) living on the right-hand side ( west?) of Xi-Hai ( West Sea, probably Lake Issyak in nowadays Kyrgyzstan ) who survived the massacre from the enemy tribe. The boy's four limbs were chopped off and he was thrown into bushes because the soldiers could not bear to kill such a young boy. The boy was raised by a she-wolf and impregnated the she-wolf as he became a man. The enemy tribe leader learned the news and resent troops to kill the boy( a grownup man then ). As the enemy troops approached, a "divine wind" suddenly blew the pregnant she-wolf to the east side of Xi-Hai as the soldiers tried to kill "her". The shewolf then gave birth to ten boys. Each of them grew up and established his own Turkish clan and Ashina ( 阿史那 ) was one of them. The Ashina clan was the strongest of the ten clans therefore the chief of the Ashina clan was the leader of Turks.
@@middleeastrenwarriormen1017 That's right! 突厥（modern Mandarin: Tu-Jue, middle Chinese: Tut-Kiet）is the name of Türkiye mentioned in the Chinese historical sources in the 6th century.
@SabinaDaitbeghanova эфталиты - это и есть те же гунны, только которые долбили Сасанидский Иран,и для них они известны как Эфталиты. Тенгрианство существовал до всех этих религий, до манихейства, до арианства, до буддизма.
China's Historical Records should be the world's most complete record of the changing history of human civilization. It extends to Iran (formerly known as Persia in Chinese, where an emperor hoped to get help from a Chinese emperor and eventually settled in Xinjiang), Afghanistan, India, Southeast Asia and other places. The Huns, like today's drive-by robbers, ran away after robbing. At first, it was difficult for the government to mobilize police forces to catch them. Until later, the emperor was determined to solve this problem, a 17-year-old general, many times blitzkrieg raid on the main camp of the Huns, the last part of the choice to surrender, some fled the land.
What legacy could there be left off?Xiongnu's majority haplogroup R became extinct,Chanyu's Y haplogroup is R-Y174827,,Only descendants are a hakka family,probably kept hostage 2000 years ago
The Xiongnu established the political culture that is typical for future steppe empires or confederations, from the Xianbei and Rouran to the Göktürks and Uygurs. Blood has nothing on cultural achievements.
Türkler hakkında bilgiler veren çok başarılı bir tarihi anlatım olmuş. Asya Hun devletinin imparatorluktan daha çok bir konfederasyon devleti olduğu doğrudur. Bu coğrafyada yaşayan, toprağına sığmayan dik başlı Türk toplulukları ve bozkır halkları genellikle kendi aralarında çatışma yaşayıp birbirlerine karşı hakimiyet kurma savaşına girişiyorlardı. Bu durum onları düşmanlarına karşı zayıflatıp bir varlık gösterememelerine neden oluyordu. Bu durumu çok iyi bilen Metehan'ın en büyük hayali bütün bozkır halklarını tek bir çatı altında toplamaktı. Bunu başarmak için bir imparator olmak yerine bir komutan olmayı seçti. Güçlü liderlik özellikleri ile bütün bozkır halklarının saygısını kazandı ve onları tek bir çatı altında toplamayı başardı. ''Bozkırda yay çeken kim varsa hepsini bir araya topladım. Şimdi hepsi Hun oldular'' sözlerinin Metehan'a ait olduğu rivayet edilir. Halkına vaad ettiği her şeyi gerçekleştirerek nasıl bir lider ve komutan olduğunu sonuna kadar kanıtladı. Metehan; milletine, kültürüne ve töresine sonuna kadar bağlı, muhteşem bir lider, deha bir asker ve çok iyi bir devlet adamıydı.
I was busy with work and life and haven’t got a chance to watch your videos for a long time. The quality of this video has amazed me, you’ve done a great job, bravo! Do you still remember the slides that I’ve sent you last year and the possible collaboration that we could do together? If so please reply, thanks.
Hey there, yes I do remember that! So sorry that I did not have the time back then. Please contact me again via mail. I believe there is potential for the topic you told me about.
the regios in the map are part of tibet, its 2 of the 3 tibetan prvince. amdo which is the indo turki group n khampa witch are the xiongxu group... khampa warriors
An earlier date for the separation of proto-Turkic, preceding 209 BC would support the identification of Xiongnu language with proto-Bulgharic or one of its subgroups, while a later date of separation would make its association with proto-Turkic more plausible. Alexander Savelyev, Martine Robbeets, Bayesian phylolinguistics infers the internal structure and the time-depth of the Turkic language family, Journal of Language Evolution, Volume 5, Issue 1, January 2020
7:20 - Lol, this documentary narration seems to be geographically challenged. If the map is accurate, then the area occupied by the Donghu is not "Mongolia", but rather modern-day NE China (also known as Manchuria in English). Modern day Mongolia is where the Xiongnu occupied on the map.
In short, it is hard to think of any other ethnolinguistic entity in history that conquered so vast a territory and founded so many empires and states, also contributing to world civilizations. The history of the Turkic peoples was an important factor in world history for more than a millennium until the emergence of Europe as the world's dominant power. What happened in the Turkic world often affected the history of China, Central Asia, the Middle East, South Asia, and Europe. One may also argue that world history began with the "Turko-Mongol" empire created by Chinggis Khan. In the contem- porary world, Turkic-speaking nations form six states (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyz- stan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, and Turkey/Türkiye) and several "autonomous" units in Russia (the republics of Chuvash, Tatarstan, Bashkor- tostan, Altai, Khakassia, Tuva, and Sakha) and China (the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region). Turkic peoples also reside as minority groups in several other countries, including Mongolia and Iran, among others. It would there- fore be difficult to acquire a comprehensive understanding of world history as well as our present world without studying the history of the Turkic peoples.
at the time of Genghis Khan there are only mongols ruling similarly traditioned turkic and khitan nomads. only until the time of his grandchildren, excluding Kublai Khan who conquered china, other mongol khans started to convert to Islam and use turkic tribal leaders as ministers at their hordes the other khanates were 'mongol-Turkic', as time goes by, those mongol-turkic khans become totally Turkic
@@berserk9085 Turkic, Semitic and Mongolic are ethno-linguistic entities unlike Indo-European which is combination of 15-20 different ethno-linguistic groups as Sino-Tibetan.
@@berserk9085 When Temüjin was a boy, the center of the steppe world was the Orkhon Valley, the old imperial site of the Türks. The valley was dominated by the Kereit. To the west, on the upper Irtysh River, lay Naiman territory. The Kereit and Naiman, not the Mongols, were masters of the steppe. The Kereit and Naiman elites spoke Turkic and had partially converted to Christianity under the influence of the Nestorian Church. In an effort to out do each other, To'oril of the Kereit and Tayang Qan of the Naiman accumulated men, weapons, alliances, and prestige. Yesügei Ba'atur sided with the Kereit. Later Chinggis Khan would subdue the Kereit and the Naiman in the course of a protracted effort to defeat all challengers among the steppe peoples. The Horde How the Mongols Changed the World Marie Favereau, p.32-33 In reality , Mongol is not an appropriate name because while the leaders of this movement were Mongol most of their army were Turkish tribesmen . The Turkish influence in the Mongol army had been extremely extensive , the two branches of the Mongol empire - Khanat Joji ( the Golden Horde ) and Khanat Jeghtai - who ruled the region had by the fourteenth century totally adopted Turkish culture. Central Asia, which was the base of Jeghtai government, in reality was the centre of Turkish culture . However , even beyond the Ural mountains , the Turkish culture enjoyed a strong presence .14 Ehteshami, A., 1994. From the Gulf to Central Asia. Exeter: University of Exeter Press, p.78. Although the Turks often comprised the bulk of the Mongol army as well as the bulk of armies opposed to the Mongols, throughout the domains of the Mongol Empire there was a diffusion of military technology, which has already bee and also ethnic groups. In addition to the Mongols and Turks, other ethnicities served in the Mongol military machine and found themselves distant from home. May, T.M., 2012. The Mongol conquests in world history, London: Reaktion Books. p.222
@@berserk9085 A similar view was held by the 11th century Arab historian Sa'ed Al-Andalusi. In his book "Category of the nations" he said the following about the Turks: "And their virtue which they skilled in is warfare and its means/tools, they are the best nation when it comes to chivalry, archery and swordsmanship" In another part of the book he says that the Chinese used to refer to the king of the Turks as "The king of the lions".
@@berserk9085 The noblest of these nations that were not interested in science are the Chinese and the Turks. The Chinese are the largest of the peoples by number, the most imposing by kingdom, and the most considerable by territory. The domains they occupy are in the eastern parts of the inhabited world, between the equinoctial line to the extreme of the seven climates to the north. His share in knowledge (ma'rifa) is to surpass all nations in mastery of handicrafts and perfection of graphic arts. They are the most suffered of men in the prolonged effort, which the improvement of the works [supposes], as well as in enduring the harshness of the penalties in the perfection of the arts (sana'i"). As for the Turks, [they] also form a great nation with numerous troops and an imposing kingdom. The domains they inhabit are found between the eastern regions of Juräsän, [on the side] of the Islamic empire, the western regions of China, northern India, and the extreme north of the inhabited world. Their virtue is that they stand out and achieve supremacy in doing war, as well as in the elaboration of weapons; for they are the most skilful of men in horsemanship and [warfare] tactics, and the keenest of eyes for spearing, striking with the sword, and shooting arrows. Ahmad, A.S. ibn and Salgado, M.F. (1999) Libro de las categorías de las naciones: Vislumbres desde el islam clásico sobre la filosofía y la ciencia. Tres cantos: Akal., p.43
Uploaded DNA data to myancestry and found as Hakka descent I have multiple ancestors from Xiongnu and other steppers around the same region including as far as Korea and mongol hordes. Although, the authenticity of the DNA analysis website is questionable still found very interesting to have connections with the ancient steppes.
@@aoltechnology1586 It's a pretty cool thing though because Hakka people are mostly in southern part of China and there were some small researches questioning whether Hakka were mixed with xiongnu ethnic groups or not.
Hakka is basically "guest people's" and took many centuries or even millennia to be accepted by Southern Chinese and incorporated into greater han Chinese identity as we know today. Hakka peoples are everywhere in the world basically, more than other han subgroups, even Cantonese. You can find han Chinese in basically every major city in the world, and it is not surprising if some han Chinese have some hakka ancestry since apart from hakka people and Cantonese people, Hui, etc, how many other han subgroup can be named by even han Chinese and have such a widespread community and also still speaks their dialect fluently etc. While hakka people's today is known as southern Chinese, originally, who knows where they are from. They could be from the north originally, and most likely are. Or at least that's what is currently accepted as hakka history. "The word Hakka or "guest families" is Cantonese in origin and originally refers to the Northern Chinese migrants fleeing social unrest, upheaval and invasions in northern parts of China (such as Gansu and Henan) during the Qing dynasty who then sought sanctuary in the Cantonese provinces such as Guangdong and Guangxi, thus the original meaning of the word implies that they are guests living in the Cantonese provinces." This is what Wikipedia says, and like i said hakka means guest people and that is what Cantonese called us when we first migrated to the south(from the north obviously) to get away from war and strife etc. That has never stopped, which is why there are heaps of hakka everywhere including Taiwan, hk, even overseas. So yeah. If hakka has some xiongnu or other ancestry, it is not surprising at all considering that even white people in USA have mongol or African ancestries, let alone some hakka people with other han Chinese subgroup(like xiongnu or mongol or Manchu etc). When you have been around for thousands of years and have migrated everywhere in China and the world, it is not surprising at all. Same as Mongolia expanding everywhere and ghengis etc having thousands of offspring and marrying their daughters into han imperial lineage and other countries imperial lineages etc. That was the whole plan to begin with for ghengis lol. And it worked out quite well for him and Mongols, or at least for a period of time. But in the end they underestimated the power of Chinese civilization and their Chinese dynasty didn't even last a century, and after that they got assimilated into Chinese civilization and more Mongolians live in china today as han Chinese than in Mongolia itself. Mongolia wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for both China and Russia wanting a neutral buffer state between them.
@@ex0duzz human trafficking is also of a common practices till 1970s. Thus if not through genetic evidence, is always going to be difficult to find true ancestors.
The video is well done! Respect the author's efforts. At the same time I also understand that modern Turks have to look for a great ancestor. But the following issues need to be considered. 1 There are 56 ethnic groups in China. Similarly, there are many nomadic peoples living on the vast Mongolian plateau. It is ridiculous to think that all 56 ethnic groups in China are Han, or that all nomads (tribes) in the grasslands of northern China are Huns and Turks. 2 As the only historical recorder of the northern nomads, China has detailed records for each nomad. Because all the nomads engaged in massive wars with the Han. Each nomad has a large number of captives to interrogate. So the accuracy of history books is very high. A total of 5,340 wars and civil wars occurred between the Han nationality and various ethnic groups. 3. The real Turks are the yellow race. According to the historical records of the Han nationality, the Turkic Khan refused to give a high official to the tribal leader because he looked like a Huren (caucasian). 4. Finding one's own ancestors requires a foundation. And use genetics effectively. Genetic tests show that 90% are Eastern Roman Greeks and Armenians who were conquered by the Pseudo-Turks. 5 English-speaking Filipinos, Indians and East Africans are not British. Likewise, speaking Turkic (the lingua franca of the steppe) is not Turkic. The 56 ethnic groups who speak Chinese are not Han. 6 The Turks and Huns were among a dozen powerful nomadic peoples who disappeared on the bloody Mongolian steppes, and they were all losers in the northern steppes. The victors in the northern Mongolian grasslands were the Mongols and the Xianbei (fishing and hunting peoples). 7 The Tocharians in Xinjiang are Persians from the Iranian plateau. They speak Old Persian and come from the Indus Valley. After 840 AD, the Uighurs entered Tarim, and the Tocharian language gradually disappeared. 8 Chinese history books have continuously recorded the history of nomads in the northern grasslands for 3,000 years, reflecting the actual situation at that time. is the only reference definition. It cannot be deliberately bent or artistic. 9 The conquest of the Eastern Romans in Anatolia by the Pseudo-Turks (Turkic-speaking tribes) was exactly the same in nature as the conquest of China by the Manchurians in 1644. A small number of nomads took over the populated areas. Anatolians (modern-day Turkey) say they are Turks from northern China, just as absurd as Han people say they come from the northern grasslands.
In history xiongnu was wipe out from west China under han military expeditionary. That’s the last of xiongnu in Chinese history… next is the mongol that replaced xiongnu
ancient Chinese as in Tang dynasty or before pronouns xiongnu was not xiongnu. It was pronounced as Hung- nu. Nu means slaves or description an ethnic not Han Chinese, such as calling Japanese wal-nu as their ethnic name is wa. I think the idea of Turkic tribes is a bit over exaggerated by this channel. This is probably the other way around. Turkic tribes may associate origin in Mongolia, with ancient Mongolic n Tungusic tribes. The nomadic population diversified through different direction to form different ethnic sub groups later. Seems to be the westward branch formed Altaic n assimilated with natives along their way to todays Central Asia, n which was the ethnic Turkic gradually formed this migration. The fact is Mongolian is not Turkic but they share the origins with Turkic, same as Tungusic.
I don't think that the Mongols have ever been equated with the Turks or vice versa. We constantly stressed the differences and similarities between both peoples. However, we do focus on Turkic history because it has been neglected very much in history books worldwide, only focusing on the Ottomans and occasionally noticing the Seljuks and Göktürks.
@@KhansDen it is good to have someone like u to talk about this subject. However being objective n honestly expressing oneself is very important principle in history studies. What do u mean that ‘the mongols never been equal to the Turks’ ??? Keep on good work but dont do it like nationalists propaganda as those ccp Chinese does history.
Who said Mongols would not have been "equal" to the Turks? That is NOT what was written. To be equated means to be made the same, not to be put on the same level. Thus, the assumption "Turks = Mongols", which is false and historically was never the case. That is what my reply was about.@@carlnilssonyoung8961
If you use historical materials from China, you must explain the specific reasons for the strength and decline of the Xiongnu. I would like to remind you that the ancient Han people were not afraid of the Xiongnu. After the Battle of Baden, the Han people realized their own lack of strength. Therefore, for 60 years after the death of Emperor Gaozu of Han, two generations of Han emperors were actively developing the economy, raising horses, and forming cavalry legions. In the end, during the reign of Emperor Wu of Han, the Xiongnu were completely defeated
IN THE END we are still there and here. there is no jin qing or han today but there still china. hun changed to turk. we still there and here in turkey.. we collapsed europe arran india for centuries and china's ruled by northern nomadic rooted dynasties for nearly thousand years.. who lost? can you even live a place without china. U f.. dumbs in baideng war has 320000 trop when we have nearly have 30000 troops. how can you lost this war? how weak you are? china always used numbers to defeat us, because you dont have fight ability. %99 of china been peasants of thier history. do you know that we dont have a word for soldier in turkic because every turk is a soldier so there is no need to difference for civil and soldier. yet today china's number 1.400 million when sum of turks 300 million. in those days u have the numbers 1 to 10 but today is nearly 1 to 4/5. and at 2100 china population will be decreased to likely 800million when the turks stay same or getting bigger.. So i am really curious without the numbers how will you defeat us. Prepare for us. this time we will come with our people :D
@@muratozgun2813 you are dreaming? It was very simple for the Han Dynasty to destroy the Xiongnu. Compared with the Han army, the Xiongnu were like savages. The Han Dynasty was at least 800 years ahead of the world in iron smelting. (This is not an exaggeration.) Has China been ruled by nomads for thousands of years? Did you invent history? ? After the fall of the Xiongnu, and even hundreds of years later, the Turks should not have been destroyed. In fact, these countries and peoples in Central and West Asia were conquered by the nomads in northern China until today.
@@muratozgun2813 The reason for the large number of Han troops was that the comprehensive national strength of the Han Dynasty was strong and could support a large number of troops and cavalry with the highest armor rate in the world at that time, while the Huns could not even provide food and clothing. One Han army can defeat ten Xiongnu. This is what the Xiongnu Chanyu himself said. Although it is an exaggeration, it shows the status of Han Dynasty soldiers in the eyes of the Xiongnu leaders at that time. Until the Huns were completely exterminated and the remaining parts were integrated into China
@@muratozgun2813 You seem to have been trying to convey that the Han Dynasty was very productive, and I don't doubt that. After all, the Han Dynasty was the first country in human history to undergo the iron smelting industrial revolution. The Han army's individual soldiers and horses had a very high armor coverage rate. The Huns were indeed strong, but too backward. The Xiongnu's only smelting and armor technologies were learned from the Han Dynasty. In the end, it could not change the fate of being destroyed. All nomadic peoples suffered the same fate, including the Turks behind them, who were easily destroyed by the Tang Dynasty. Another thing I'm curious about is that the Han people and the Huns are the same family, but why are your descendants who were conquered by the Huns speaking for the Huns? ? ?
@@muratozgun2813 The nomadic ethnic group Xianbei Rouran Khitan Jurchen, which emerged one after another, were all Sinicized. They were all ethnic groups from northern China, and the rise of Mongolia was entirely due to the division of China at that time. Otherwise, just like the Han Dynasty destroyed the Xiongnu and the Tang Dynasty destroyed the Turks, Mongolia could not rise at all. The Jurchen people of the Jin Dynasty suppressed the Mongols for more than a hundred years and implemented a policy of extermination against them for a hundred years, Temujin's grandfather and father were both killed by the Jurchen people of the Jin Dynasty, which led to Genghis Khan Temujin's hatred towards the Jurchen people. The Mongols and Jurchens are a generational hatred. After the decline of the late Jin Dynasty, Mongolia rose up. Otherwise, Mongolia would not be able to rise at all. Genghis Khan only needs a few thousand soldiers to defeat West Asia. But Genghis Khan, who had gathered all his troops and Mongol Khan Genghis Khan himself, died in battle during the Jin Dynasty. His later leader, Ogotai, united with all the khans and the Song Dynasty to defeat the weakened Jin Dynasty for decades. And in the future, the Mongols could easily disperse all their troops from Asia to Eastern Europe and West Asia, like cutting a cake. The Jin Dynasty, which was capable of demonstrating its decline, was also stronger than other countries in the world at that time.
original turkic are mongoloids east asians..until they reaches eastern europe a few hundred years later with heavy indo european mixed blood (eurasian).
@@achtungbaby2009The history of the Turks begins in 9000 BC Turks have 7 ancient civilizations in Asia and the first state of the Turks was established in 220 BC.
Modu had also subjected an equally large empire of China to the payment of tribute. Modu was in many ways Alexander«s equal, maybe even superior when it comes to the extent of his conquests. The two rulers were also similar in that they were both suspected of having assassinated their fathers (Touman and Philip) in order to seize the throne. Modu, however, was clearly the more competent politician and administrator of the two.
@@berserk9085 rare person understands Modu's influence on history. besides crushing more powerful opponents than Persia, he left successors who destroyed Rome. pushing westward they spread nomadic culture including trousers or mass horse riding, up to Britain. u right, Modu probably spoke mongolian language. mongols constantly were proving quran is nothing before the strength of the Tengri on the field of battle.
This is the truth fact. But i guess the pisslam hard to accept the fact. Haha😆❤ I love han chinese. They are strong. We indian need to learn from the chinese to teach this pisslam a lesson.
if got wiped why are we still in east asia? Look at map you still in china when we had 3x more land than our ancestral land. And dont forget kazakhstan kyrgyzstan, mongolia, uzbekistan, turkiye, turkmenistan still here. Actually your half of dystasties from northen nomadic tribes. we ruled you hundred of years :D
@@muratozgun2813 kazahs and Turks are not huns. You guys got wiped out. The rest had to change their name to Wang or lee so they can live and blendin in China. Buy the way those harsh countries you adopted in your imagination ain't worth living in.
You say kazakh and turks are not hun but you also say you got wiped. You contradicting with yourself. When hun falls the turks didnt wiped but came back with new names. You have to know that cause what happens china with few hundred years. But there is a different central asian nomads never ruled by foreigner dynasties unlike your china which is many of them from altaic peoples. Thats show who is winner. Those countries of steppes are far better than your dog and rat eating poor country :D. Why chinese have dog eating culture because %99 of chinese live poor conditions for whole time even today. Black death emerged in china, even today's corona emerged from china because your dirty people eat everything they find because of poorness. Remember when our mighty Cengiz Kağan and his mogul army didnt even enter beijing after winning because of its bad weather. We turks never wanted to conquer china and live there.. Its a bad place to live when comparing to central asia. We only come there for harvest our CORNs :D @@hpw-ws6bj
The Huns are the descendants of Dayu of the Xia Dynasty (a very important figure in Chinese mythology), so the current Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Turkmen, Kazakhs, Khakass, etc. are all distant relatives of the Chinese
That’s wrong, Xiongnu is a tribe name, its ruler race are East Asian, Turkic people was their slave, Turkic people good at make iron weapons, and serve the Huns. XiongNu are the ancestors of many northern Nomads. Xiongnu was destroyed by Han Emperor and south Xiongnu are integrated into Chinese, north Xiongnu ran away to west Asia. I don’t think there is much connection between Xiongnu with current Turkish people. China has comprehensive history records of Xiongnu, they are nothing like current Turkish people.
Chariots tended to be used where the horses weren't big enough to be ridden. Originally, horses were domesticated as meat animals, fairly small ones as I understand it.
Xiongnu, Turkic and Mongolians tribes (East Siberian Nomads) all have caused trouble in northern border of Han Tribes (Chinese Dynasties), but thanks to great wall, only Mongolian Tribe managed to overpower Han Tribe and occupied the land of 68 years. All other Siberian Tribes had been chase away, so they move westward to Middle East and Europe. Noted: Manchurian Tribe were not started in the same Siberian Steppe grassland in Inner Mongolia.
The story about shooting horses and wives is probably exaggerated within this legend. Though it clearly tries to inherit a basic understanding of what military discipline should be like. I think it is a didactic story about something really important in the culture of the Turkic groups that would follow. How an army should be...
Why don't these video bloggers dare to mention that China people have perished these ethnic minorities, and now only Mongolians are still alive in the northern grassland?
Han/Kağan(Kaghan) is the same meaning with different words. But true use is Kağan. Mete is chinese telling of Bagatur(Bahadır) Kağan. which means hero king in turkish. Bagatur came from batırmak verb. means sinking/stabbing.
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Weren't the Yuezhi a Tocharian tribe ? a whole different IE group, they're refered to as Indo-Iranian in the video
@@nenenindonuне было никаких иранских степняков
Dear admin, I have a request from you. Could you please make a video about the history of the Turkish states established in India? Delhi sultanate, Mughal Empire is one of them.. These empires are called Mongol states by western historians who are deliberately against the Turks.
Xiongnu the are not Turks the are HUNU
@@hasbaatar5756 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA okey
I'm Hungarian by blood and my family hailed from Transylvania. I acknowledge my people's relationship to Turkic tribes, King Attila had Chuvas body guards, and Árpád has DNA connecting him to the Bashkirs as well. One issue I have is when Tukologists make statements where they attempt to exclude Hungarians from having a solid connection to the Huns and Magyars. My relatives are Székély and it is well known that this Transylvanian tribe has direct lineage to Attila, also the Székély clan name is derived from the Scythians.
😆 OK, lets face reality here. 99% of people outside of Asia are not descendants of Mongols or Xiongnu. Real Mongol, XiongNu are EAST ASIANS (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mongols). 99% of modern day Turkey are descendants of XiongNu slaves not real XiongNu, the 1% that look like East Asian are the REAL XiongNu. Stop trying to steal EAST ASIAN Identity! Do you look even a little like EAST ASIAN?
some tukologists are clowns.
@@osmanisildak2448they're closeminded and brainwashed nationalists, which are equally insufferable across all religions, political ideologies, and countries
匈奴是黄种游牧民族
你们白人血统多，几乎没有的黄种血统
You are a Part of Turan. You are one of us! You belong to us!! Possibly your blood is more Turk as most turks who live in turkey!!
Be proud and greetings from a yörük!
I actually applauded at the end that was so good! Your skill is getting better every video, thank you!
😆 OK, lets face reality here. 99% of people in Turkey are not descendants of Mongols or Xiongnu. Real Mongol, XiongNu are EAST ASIANS (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mongols). 99% of modern day Turkey are descendants of XiongNu slaves, the 1% that look like East Asian are the REAL XiongNu. Stop trying to steal EAST ASIAN Identity! Turks are not related to XiongNu or Mongols AT ALL. They are most likely Greek Slaves
Turkish history is greatly underappreciated. Glad I found this channel.
TURKİC
A Hun = Török előtti - történelem !
Magyar = Turk... - (Szkita... !
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There was nothing in this video about turkish
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@@bossman9758 Oghuz Turks see modu chanyu or "mete khan" as their ancestor. In legends they refer to him as "oghuz khagan". According to Turkish legends,oghuz khagan was adopted and fed my a female wolf when he was a baby after his tribe was destroyed. He then mated with the wolf and the wolf gave birth to Turks. This is the exact reason why grey wolf is the national animal of Turkey and grey wolf is the symbol of nationalism in Turkey. Yes, Oghuz Turks are the same Turks living in Turkey, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan. They migrated to anatolia because of the raids of other Turks and Mongols in the central asia. Turkish people are Oghuz Turks.
As someone who's name is Metehan, this is very special and interesting video to watch. Thank you!
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U are turk or hungarian? Im sure xiongnu blood runs in you. Im a chinese and my ancestor Han blood runs in me. probably our ancestor did cross swords before in the past. Hahahaha!
Modu and Mete are just CHINESE mispronunciations of Bagatur(in old chinese reading its Batur/Beter/M and B is interchangable in old chinese.)@@blackjackfragnetic
😆 OK, lets face reality here. 99% of people outside of Asia are not descendants of Mongols or Xiongnu. Real Mongol, XiongNu are EAST ASIANS (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mongols). 99% of modern day Turkey are descendants of XiongNu slaves not real XiongNu, the 1% that look like East Asian are the REAL XiongNu. Stop trying to steal EAST ASIAN Identity! Do you look even a little like EAST ASIAN?
All Xiongnu history is only recorded in China's history books in ancient Chinese. Without deep understanding of ancient Chinese, no one, including modern Chinese people, is able to understand Xiongnu's history. However, westerners have the courage to interpret the Xiongnu history arbitrarily to their needs.
匈奴只是汉人的手下败将而已，由那些没爹的种族去解读便是。
Dont forget china writed Hun history is higly wrong cause they writed with enemy eyes about us.
These are short lived ancient nomadic people that came and went like sand storms. Can't stand the test of time like the Chinese civilization or the Roman empire and became historical dustbin.
Huna mentioned in Indian texts of antiquity,
@@hpw-ws6bj Yes, temporary, insignificant nomads destroyed Rome. He founded great states such as the European Hun State, the Seljuk State and the Ottoman Empire. You're right, it doesn't matter, right?
The earliest reference to the Mongols classifies them as a Tang dynasty tribe of Shiwei during the eighth century. It was only after the fall of the Liao dynasty in 1125 that they became an important tribe on the Central Asian steppe, but tribal wars weakened their power over the ensuing century. During the thirteenth century, the term Mongol was used to refer to the Mongolic and Turkic tribes who fell under the control of Genghis Khan. The Mongols are primarily a shamanist society; their central deity is the sky god Tenger.
Native Peoples of the World: An Encyclopedia of Groups, Cultures and Contemporary Issues By Steven L. Danver, p.225
The most important function of any steppe empire is to apply the türe (the law)..
That means it maintains peace within the clans. Solves disputes.. When you are herding animals there are lots of them...Mostly about the grasslands or the animals that run here or there...
One theory about the origin of the word Turk is that it started as "Türük" (one that has Türe)
This word still exists in modern Turkish in the form "töre" and means "imperative tradition".
The most important function of these Steppe Tribes are to attack Han tribes (Chinese Dynasties), and if they can‘t win, they move west to terrorise others. 😂
@@merrick6484 It is China .. the invader .. Just check where the chinese wall is now. It is inside China .. And there are over 20 languages spoken in "China" ..(The nations in the dragons stomach) They are originally from Tibet.. and with an explosion of population they invaded all around.
Whereever you are, they will reach you too .. (if they did not already)
@@merrick6484you speak not of history but your bias and arrogance. Your words mean nothing.
@@merrick6484- tanulj...még !
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Although the Xiongnu were ethnically heterogeneous as a whole, it appears that variability was highly related to social status. Genetic heterogeneity was highest among retainers of low status, as identified by their smaller and peripheral tombs. These retainers mainly displayed ancestry related to the Chandman/Uyuk culture (characterized by a hybrid Eurasian gene pool combining the genetic profile of the Sintashta culture and Baikal hunter-gatherers (Baikal EBA)), or various combinations of Chandman/Uyuk and Ancient Northeast Asian Ulaanzuukh/Slab Grave profiles.[247]
On the contrary, high status Xiongnu individuals tended to have less genetic diversity, and their ancestry was essentially derived from the Eastern Eurasian Ulaanzuukh/Slab Grave culture, or alternatively from the Xianbei, suggesting multiple sources for their Eastern ancestry.
😆 OK, lets face reality here. 99% of people in Turkey are not descendants of Mongols or Xiongnu. Real Mongol, XiongNu are EAST ASIANS (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mongols). 99% of modern day Turkey are descendants of XiongNu slaves, the 1% that look like East Asian are the REAL XiongNu. Stop trying to steal EAST ASIAN Identity! Turks are not related to XiongNu or Mongols AT ALL. They are most likely Greek Slaves
You are lying. Early Western Xiongnu demonstrated Chandman Scytho-Siberian origins. The early Eastern Xiongnu were mixed Chandman and East Asian Ulaanzuukh/Slab Grave profiles. The later Xiongnu were extremely mixed with additional influxes of Han and East Asians displacing paternal lines. The Kimaks-Kipchaks and Karluks who dominated Asia in the Middle Ages were directly Huns. Ancestral to the minor some Turkic-speaking groups in Russia. Whereas the modern Mongols and central Asian Turks are the late Xianbei-Xiongnu 13th century.
@@mr.purple1779 You cant change the fact that Mongol or XiongNu or "Turkic" look nothing like people of Turykey. They are just trying to claim a fake heritage.
They all are Turkic tribes and besides Central Asian Turks lived before time you mentioned bro do you know 92 Uzbek tribes?
In the case of Early Pre-Proto-Mongolic, certain loanwords in the Mongolic languages point to early contact with Oghur (Pre-Proto-Bulgaric) Turkic, also known as r-Turkic. These loanwords precede Common Turkic (z-Turkic) loanwords and include:
• Mongolic ikere (twins) from Pre-Proto-Bulgaric ikir (versus Common Turkic ekiz)
• Mongolic hüker (ox) from Pre-Proto-Bulgaric hekür (Common Turkic öküz)
• Mongolic jer (weapon) from Pre-Proto-Bulgaric jer (Common Turkic yäz)
• Mongolic biragu (calf) versus Common Turkic buzagu
• Mongolic siri- (to smelt ore) versus Common Turkic siz- (to melt)
The above words are thought to have been borrowed from Oghur Turkic during the time of the Xiongnu.
Later Turkic peoples in Mongolia all spoke forms of Common Turkic (z-Turkic) as opposed to Oghur (Bulgharic) Turkic, which withdrew to the west in the 4th century. The Chuvash language, spoken by 1 million people in European Russia, is the only living representative of Oghur Turkic which split from Proto Turkic around the 1st century AD.
Words in Mongolic like dayir (brown, Common Turkic yagiz) and nidurga (fist, Common Turkic yudruk) with initial *d and *n versus Common Turkic *y are sufficiently archaic to indicate loans from an earlier stage of Oghur (Pre-Proto-Bulgaric). This is because Chuvash and Common Turkic do not differ in these features despite differing fundamentally in rhotacism-lambdacism (Janhunen 2006). Oghur tribes lived in the Mongolian borderlands before the 5th century, and provided Oghur loanwords to Early Pre-Proto-Mongolic before Common Turkic loanwords.
Golden 2011, p. 31.
free Kurdistan
BAGATUR is also the name of the Ancient War Arts in Bulgaria.
Salute.
Esenlikler(salute)
The Xiongnu Empire is the first Mongol-Turkish empire in world history. At this time, the Xiongnu Empire, the world's strongest military empire, conquered Siberia, East Asia, Central Asia, West Asia, and North Asia. And there was a fierce war with the ancient Chinese Emperor Wu of Han for world supremacy. The Xiongnu Empire is a world-class empire made up of Mongols, Iranians, and Turks. The most representative descendants of the Xiongnu Empire are Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Turkey, Hungary, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and Azerbaijan, and they praise and serve their own history, the Xiongnu Empire. Turkey designated the founding date of the Xiongnu Empire, when 'Modu Chanyu' founded the Xiongnu Empire, as the official founding date of Turkey's army.
Not the strongest as the strongest might be the roman empire that had modt territories and population. Xiongnu empire is probably second to them.
@@yoloi2470 No it's not the Romans. It's Han > Xiongnu > Romans.
@@James-sn5mg the roman empire is recognize as the best empire dyuring that era. The xiongnu lost its advantage due to being cocky and waking up the tiger. During the eatrly han xiongnu watr, the xiongnu held massive advantage against the han.
@@yoloi2470peak vs peak, Han won
@yoloi2470 no the romans were not the best empire during that era. It's not like you lived in that era. The ones that claim that are western historians only. China and India have always been greater than the overrated romans and the greeks
Xiong-nu language in Chinese inscriptions
撑犁 (Chēng lí)
撑犁 term in Chinese inscriptions is associated with the old Turkic tengri. Tengri means sky.
瓯脱 (Ōu tuō)
瓯脱 means room[7].
Borrowed from Proto-Turkic *otag[8], also reconstructed as *ōtag. Although linguists concentrate on *otag, since long vowels are not preserved in languages that need to be protected, there are also those who claim that it is derived from the Proto-Turkic word *ōtwhich means fire(see Proto-Turkic Vocabulary lesson). *otag means tent or room, but also fireplace is suggested.
头曼 (Tóu màn)
The name Touman is likely related to a word meaning '10,000, a myriad' Old Turkic tümän
Tengri means Heavens, like Tian.
@wratch-gd2jq It was originally Tangra though (Tangra form was used by Oghurs like Bulgars) that’s why we Turks call it Tanrı rather than Tenri.
@@papazataklaattiranimamfree Kurdistan
I dont know where but i also saw it was said teo man meant duman which means smoke
but i get your point as you talk about tümen I believe
Turkified greek alert
To assume Xiongnu had euro-central Asia origin just because present day Turkish is spoken there is just wrong thinking and goes against the very idea of Xiongnu migration. It's much more likely that the Turkish originated as an East Asia/Central Asia language and later migrated westward together with the Xiongnu.
😆 OK, lets face reality here. 99% of people in Turkey are not descendants of Mongols or Xiongnu. Real Mongol, XiongNu are EAST ASIANS (Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Mongols). 99% of modern day Turkey are descendants of XiongNu slaves, the 1% that look like East Asian are the REAL XiongNu. Stop trying to steal EAST ASIAN Identity! Turks are not related to XiongNu or Mongols AT ALL. They are most likely Greek Slaves
It is not "present day Turkish", it is an extinct Oghur Turkic language. Stop conflating the terms.
Sino-centric is as bad as euro-centric.
Asia is not a monolith, also the Tarim mummy says other wise…the word “Asia” is an Anatolian term.
750 Bc is as far back Chinese chronicles go, even though there were shang,xia, and 3 sovereigns and 5 emperors.
These cultures could of been brought through the hexi corridor establishing shannxi first kingdom.
Hexi corridor brought horses, bronzes, crops, divine ruler ship…mongols were tangut brought as plebeians and are recent.
@@snakeeater0224exactly
@@snakeeater0224Mongols are not Tangut, Tangut came from Tibet and more closely related to the Chinese.
"The Xiongnu first appear in Chinese historical records about the 5th century BCE, when their repeated invasions prompted the small kingdoms of North China to begin erecting what later became the Great Wall. The Xiongnu became a real threat to China after the 3rd century BCE, when they formed a far-flung tribal confederation under a ruler known as the chanyu, the rough equivalent of the Chinese emperor’s designation as the tianzi (“son of heaven”). They ruled over a territory that extended from western Manchuria (Northeast Provinces) to the Pamirs and covered much of present Siberia and Mongolia. The Xiongnu were fierce mounted warriors who were able to muster as many as 300,000 horseback archers on their periodic intrusions into North China, and they were more than a match for the much less-maneuverable chariots of the Chinese. The completion of the Great Wall along the whole of China’s northern frontier during the Qin dynasty (221-206 BCE) slowed but did not stop the Xiongnu. The early Han dynasty rulers attempted to control them by marrying their leaders to Chinese princesses. But Xiongnu raids against China continued periodically until the Han emperor Wudi (reigned 141/140-87/86 BCE) initiated a fiercely aggressive policy against the nomads, sending expeditions into central China to outflank them and to negotiate alliances with their enemies. These expeditions led to the Chinese conquest of the state of Chosŏn in northern Korea and southern Manchuria and the Chinese exploration of Turkistan."
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There are 56 ethnic groups in China. There are also many nomadic peoples in the Mongolian Plateau. Thinking that all 56 ethnic groups in China are Han is as ridiculous as saying that all nomads (tribes) are Huns or Turks. China has detailed records of each nomadic people. Because all the nomads are at war with the Han. During the Warring States period, Qin, Zhao, and Yan built Great Walls to deal with different nomadic peoples. The Han people had 5,340 wars and civil wars with all ethnic groups. After the Qin State wiped out two nomadic peoples and defeated the Xiongnu, they unified and built all the Great Walls. Finding your own ancestors requires a basis. And use genetics effectively. In Türkiye today, the real Turks are the yellow race. Genetic tests show that 90% are Eastern Roman Greeks and Armenians who were conquered by pseudo-Turks. English-speaking Filipinos and Indians, and East Africans are not British. Likewise, speaking Turkic (the lingua franca of the steppe) is not Turkic.
@@MuTong-k3swow. Respect
The Xiongnu were defeated and divided by the Han Dynasty, with some fleeing to Eastern Europe, some under the jurisdiction of the Han Dynasty, and some regularly paying tribute to the Han Dynasty until the Three Kingdoms period after the fall of the Han Dynasty. The southern Xiongnu wanted to break away from the Han Dynasty and gain independence, but were defeated by Cao Cao. After the end of the Three Kingdoms period, the new successor dynasty, the Jin Dynasty, had the opportunity to rise again due to civil war and corruption. The southern Xiongnu seized the opportunity to occupy the northwest region of China and establish the Han Dynasty, Yes, you guessed it right. The southern Xiongnu claimed to be the inheritors of the Han Dynasty, but the New Han Dynasty quickly perished, with some of the remaining Xiongnu people integrating into China and some being replaced by the Rouran tribe in the north
@@MuTong-k3sAnatolians are neither "Turk" nor "Greek". They are Anatolian: their own ancient race. Moreover, Turks in Turkey don't claim to be an ethnic group, but instead a nationality. As the Father of the Türks, Atatürk, said: "How happy is the one who says 'I am a Turk'". Similarly, in Central Asia, the several nomadic tribes were united under the name "Xiongnu". Ask someone from Turkey today what they are. No matter how different they may look, they will most certainly answer "I am a Turk".
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Hu(胡) means barbarians, therefore Dong-Hu (東胡) means "Eastern Barbarians"
Dong-Hu (東胡,Eastern babarians) is the predecessor of 鮮卑(Xian-be), 柔然(Rou-Ran), 蒙古(Meng-Gu, Mongols), 契丹(Qi-Dan, Khitans), 女真(Nu-Zhen, Jurchen) and 滿洲(Man-Zhou, Manchurians). Apparently they are either Mongolic or Tungustic language speaking tribes but not Turkic.
In contrast, 突厥(Tu-Jue, Turks), 回紇(Hui-He, Uyghurs), 黠郟斯(Xia-Jia-Su, Kyrgyzs) are Turkic language Speaking tribes. According to the Chinese sources, They are from Jin- Shan (金山, golden mountains, Altai mountains) which is west of Mongolian plateau! They are not part of Dong-Hu(Eastern babarians) and originated from different locations. Therefore Turkic people are not related to the Mongolic and Tugustic language speaking people.
You are absolutely right. The Turks don’t even know their history in depth, they often confused the two divides. Mongolic or Tungustic are from the Far East whereas Turkic are from the Altai Mountains they are quite distinct. Chinese distinguishes them by referring to them as Eastern Barbarians and Western Barbarians.
Dingling was ancestor of Siberian Turkic ?
@@middleeastrenwarriormen1017 maybe, 丁零（Ding-Ling） is a Turkic tribe north of Xiong-Nu mentioned in the Chinese sources during the Han dynasty in the 1st and 2nd century AD. They attacked Xiong-Nu frequently from Lake Baikal and later migrated to Sarmakand in Central Asia after the disintegration of Xiong--Nu Chanyuate in the 3rd century AD. Those who remained in their homeland Lake Baikal were probably the ancestors of later Uyghurs which was north of Gokturks in the 7th century AD.
@@hongdalai2753 xueyantuo and shatuo descendant xiongnu or xianbei ?
What does Meng Gu mean? Any reliable sources?
The predecessors of Huihe were Xiongnu. Because, customarily, they ride high-wheeled carts. They were also called Gaoche during the Yuan Wei times, or also called Chile, mistakenly rendered as Tiele.
- Xin Tangshu, 232
Weishu, vol. 103 txt: "高車，[...] 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異，或云其先匈奴之甥也", tr: "The Gaoju, [...] their language and the Xiongnu's are similar though differ a little; or to say it differently, they are the sororal nephews/sons-in-laws of the Xiongnu”
According to the Book of Wei, the Yuebans' language and customs were the same as the Gaoche, who were Turkic speakers. Yuebans(Weak Xiongnu) cut their hair and trimmed their ghee-smeared, sun-dried, glossy eyebrows evenly, and washed before meals three times everyday.
Weishu, Vol. 102 "其風俗言語與高車同，而其人清潔於胡。俗剪髮齊眉，以醍醐塗之，昱昱然光澤，日三澡漱，然後飲食。"
Chinese sources link the Tiele people and Ashina to the Xiongnu, According to the Book of Zhou and the History of the Northern Dynasties, the Ashina clan was a component of the Xiongnu confederation.
Linghu Defen et al., Book of Zhou, Vol. 50. (in Chinese)
Love our brother Huns. from Korea. we go together forever
Brothership of Altay!
Outstanding Presentation! Thank you for providing this information.
As an Arab nomad I respect the horsemen of central asia.
Hard life create strong men
But these Aryans defeated the Turks and the Huns 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@عليياسر-ذ5ب When did this happen? As far as I know, for more than 1000 years, people descended from the Huns dominated from Western Eurasia to India, from Egypt to the middle of Europe. Not to mention the Mongol empire period.
Aha this is why we got whole middle asia and their capital constatinapole. we drow them to inner europa and even got africa :D@@عليياسر-ذ5ب
After that the Mongols entered you 😂@@عليياسر-ذ5ب
Hi Den! How can I write you a message? I need to consult with one project regarding history of nomads. Regards from Kazakhstan
Thank you for excellent work.
love ur channel...its based on facts,research and unbiased history.🧿
This can be surmised by analysing the names of Hunnic princes and tribes. The names of the following Hunnic princes are clearly Oghuric Turkic in origin: Mundzuk (Attila’s father, from Turkic Muncˇuq = pearl/jewel; for an in-depth discussion of the Hunnic origin of this name in particular see Schramm (1969), 139-40), Oktar/Uptar (Attila’s uncle, Öktär = brave/powerful), Oebarsius (another of Attila’s paternal uncles, Aïbârs = leopard of the moon), Karaton (Hunnic supreme king before Ruga, Qarâton = black-cloak), Basik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, early fifth century, Bârsig˘ = governor), Kursik (Hunnic noble of royal blood, from either Kürsig˘ , meaning brave or noble, or Quršiq meaning beltbearer). For these etymologies see Bona (1991), 33. Three of Attila’s known sons 40 have probable Turkic names: Ellac, Dengizich, Hernak, and Attila’s princi pal wife, the mother of the ‘crown prince’ Ellac, has the Turkic name Here kan, as does another notable wife named Eskam. See Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 392-415. See also Bona (1991), 33-5, and Pritsak (1956), 414. Most known Hunnic tribal names are also Turkic, Maenchen-Helfen (1973), 427-41, e.g. Ultincur, Akatir etc. The cur suffix in many of these names is a well-known Turkic title and as Beckwith (1987), 209, points out the To-lu or Tardus tribes (Hunnic in origin) of the Western Turkish On Oq were each headed by a Cur (noble). Zieme (2006), 115, speculates that the title cur belongs to a pre-Turkic Tocharian stratum of the Turkic language, which, if true, again highlights the essential heterogeneity of Central Asian peoples and even languages. See also Aalto (1971), 35. In addition to this primary language (Oghuric Turkic), Priscus informs us that Latin and Gothic were also understood by the Hunnic elite. See Priscus, fr. 13.3, Blockley (1983), 289.
Mclaughlin, Professors Hyun & Lieu, Rome and China: Points of Contact (Routledge, 2021)
For all recorded Hunnic names of Turkic origin ;
Aigan = moon prince; from Turkic aï & can
Alp Ilutuer / Ilteber = heroic chieftain; from Turkic alp & iltäbär
Althias = six; from Turkic Alti
Akkagas = white rock; from Turkic ak & kayač
Atakam = elder shaman; from Turkic ata & kam
Balach = calf; from Turkic Malaq
Berik = strong; from Turkic Berık
Basik = governor; from Turkic Bârsiğ
Bleda = wise; from Turkic Bildä
Bochas = either gullet; from Turkic Boğuz; or bull, from Buqa
Dengizich = ocean-like, little sea; from Turkic teɲez & dêɲri; or simply, great lake
Donat / Donatu = horse; from Turkic Yonat
Edeco = good; from Turkic Ädgü
Ellac = to rule; from Turkic el & lä
Emmedzur = horse lord; from Turkic Ämäcur
Eskam / Esqam = companion of the shaman; from Turkic eŝ & kam
Erekan / Kreka = pure princess; from Turkic Arïqan
Ernakh / Hernac = small man, heroic man; from Turkic Ernäk
Iliger = prince man; from Turkic ilig & är
Karadach = black mountain; from Turkic Qaradağ
Karaton = black cloak; from Turkic Qarâton
Kursik = either noble; from Turkic Kürsiğ; or belt-bearer, from Qurŝiq
Kutilzis = blessed herald; from Turkic kut & elči
Mundzuk = bead; from Turkic Munčuq
Oebarsius / Aybars = moon leopard, from Turkic Aïbârs; or dun leopard, from oy & bars
Oldogan / Odolgan = either red falcon; from Turkic al & dogan; or chubby, from Tolgun
Onegesius = either twelve; from Turkic oneki; or tumen chief, from Oniyiz
Oktar / Uptar = brave; from Turkic Öctär
Ruga / Rua = wise man; from Turkic Ögä
Turgun = still, calm; from Turkic Turkun
Uldin = six; from Turkic Alti
Zolban = shepherd star; from Turkic Čolpan
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@@nenenindonu muhh they were Iranic Mongolic Yeniseic and shiet🫒
Some ignorant people misinterpreted the message of Genghis Khan the Great to the Taoist sage and carried the message more than it could bear.
While the text of Genghis' message is clear and talks about the history of the eastern steppes only, since the era of the Xiongnu, the eastern steppes have not known an empire so large in terms of area as the empire of Genghisid.
This is what was stated in the text of the letter:
“It seems to me that since the remote time of our shan yü such a vast empire has not been seen”.
@@Reader_curiosityFree Kurdistan
远东三大势力
北狄 东胡 中原
北狄≈今天的蒙古国
东胡≈中国和俄罗斯交界处
中原≈中国中北部
三股势力关系复杂
匈奴 突厥 是北狄
鲜卑 蒙古 女真 是东胡
他们有部分共同祖先，但只是小部分，他们是不一样的。
中原是农耕民族，北狄是游牧民族，东胡是渔猎民族。
土耳其人是北狄，蒙古人是东胡。
蒙古人之所以游牧是因为适应环境，类似回鹘人原来是游牧民族现在是农耕民族。
简单梳理混乱的民族关系
大汉（中原）崛起，击溃匈奴。
匈奴帝国（北狄）消失后鲜卑崛起（东胡）占据了北狄的地盘。
匈奴去向↓
≈50%西迁
≈30%变为鲜卑（东胡）附属
≈20%匈奴（南匈奴）汉化
随后鲜卑（东胡）崛起→柔然（之前附属的匈奴人）叛乱
鲜卑南下，建立北魏。
柔然鲜卑大战，柔然奔溃，
突厥（柔然分支）崛起，
隋唐（中原）崛起，与鲜卑联姻大战突厥。
随后大部分鲜卑融入中原，突厥溃败。
突厥汗国之后的回鹘汗国（亲唐帝国的突厥人政权）
随后黠戛斯（突厥）取代回鹘，称霸北方。
随后契丹（鲜卑后裔）崛起。
契丹衰弱 蒙古崛起
蒙古≈鲜卑后裔（主体）＋小部分突厥后裔。
大元（蒙古）成立→大明（中原）成立→南北对立→大元分裂→后金（东胡）崛起
西方人来到东方，随后日本崛起→二战→日本战败→中国崛起（此时此刻）
先有国家后有国民身份，在这之前则是另一种称呼。
后金（大清）成立，满州族≈女真人，蒙古人，汉人，朝鲜人，锡伯族，索伦人等等
中华人民共和国成立，中华民族＝东亚联盟≈汉人，满州人，蒙古人，突厥人，藏族，和其他诸多民族。
一个民族有很多民族组成，所组成的分支也是有很多很多来源，这是无穷无尽的，只不过有些民族没有什么区别有的民族则有很大差距。
所以我们对历史争论就是因此而来。
just brilliant
This is in one word FANTASTIC
The xiongnu was a unique enigmatic mobile empire in history that even spanding hundred years of wars against their sedentary adversary in multiple fronts across thousand miles
The descendants of the Xiongnu and Huns are the modern Chuvash, who still live on the Volga.
Such a perfect video! I always wanted a summary video of my ancestors like this!
Thank you so so much! 🐺🏹🐎
But why is he still called Maodun/ Mete Han
and not changed to Batur?
Because it was not a universally accepted translation.
@@thewanderingrey8830
At least in Turkey he should be called Batur though
Bahadir , Bahadur
😂 This is a misinformed Video. The Chinese destroyed all Steps people including the Mongols. These so called "Turks" were slaughtered by the Han Chinese, this is why they are now in exile. FACT: These "Turks" dont ever want to live near Han Chinese anymore because they know they will be destroyed. Just use your brain, Chinese are still in China. Where the fuk are these "huns" and "Turkic"? Stop making fake video that glorify a weak group of goat herders.
I think its maybe not Batur, but Bator, since Mongolian capital is Ulan Bator, and Bator in Hungarian means Brave, altought Ur means lord or guardian, and Hadur means warlord.
Thank you for compiling the video. This is the first time to know Xiongnu not from Chinese view.
My pleasure. It was about time.
@@KhansDen Actually most of the records mentioned in this video are from Chinese history books, especially the famous "Records of the Grand Historian of China"（史记）
Well, yes? There is a difference however between using ancient Chinese sources and taking modern-day Chinese narratives about the non-Chinese peoples. Just take a look at the comments if you want to know how the latter plays out. @@Shadowless_Kick
@@KhansDen Modern day Chinese narratives about Xiongnu are based on ancient history books therefore there is no big difference. As a matter of fact, today’s view of the “north barbarians” is probably less negative because modern science confirms that today’s Chinese people carry some DNA of Xiongnu and other northern nomadic ethnic minorities.
Great work
As this time depth coincides with the beginning of the Xiongnu empire (209 BCE-100 CE), the association of Xiongnu with Proto-Bulgharic does not seem unreasonable. However, given the relatively large credible interval involved in the Bayesian dating, the breakup of proto-Turkic may also be connected with the first disintegration of the Xiongnu confederation under influence of the military successes of the Chinese in 127-119 BCE (Mudrak 2009). In sum, the time depth of the breakup of Proto-Turkic can be estimated between 500 BCE and 100 CE.
Martine Robbeets, Remco Bouckaert, Bayesian phylolinguistics reveals the internal structure of the Transeurasian family, Journal of Language Evolution, Volume 3, Issue 2, July 2018
Good information
Its pitty that Chinese Dynasties have to face these powerfull Normads from Siberia for thousands of years, the Xiongnu, the Turkic and the mighty Mongolians.
However, only Mongolians succesfully conquer entire China for a period of 68 years.
So, building the Great Wall does work.😂
@@merrick6484that’s why they built the Great Wall😂
Hello Khans Den! Thanks a lot for all your efforts about your presentations! However, I think you dont know much about turkic ancestry just as much as eurocentric written turkic history. Eurocentric written turkic history starts just in 1st century BC and do not match with recent futuristic genetic ydna studies.
As a curious follower and rational, sensible researcher, I was looking into language maps and individual haplogroup maps and I have realized some topics without being a genetic or linguistic scientist. Some language subgroups do match with some ydna haplogroups. First of all, I want to give my discoveries:
C2 - proto austronesians
C3 - mongolic, tungusic
C4 - australians, pacificans
D - tibetans, burmans, ainu
E1a - niger-congo, bantu
E1b1 - kushitic, egyptians, hellenic
E1b2 - berberic, nortwest africans
F - proto indoeuropean, early farmers
G - georgians, caucasian arians
H - south indians, partly dravidians
I1 - germanic, nordic, anglic visigoths
I2 - slavic, balkanic, ukrainian ostrogoths
J1 - arabic, aramic, semitic, hebrew
J2 - grecoromans, persians, baktrians
K - proto agglutinative language speakers
L & T - sanskrit, vedic, west indians
M & S - sundaland, papuans
N - finnic, uralic, north asians
O1 - south chinese, sinotic
O2 - indonesians, austroasiatic
O3 - manchurians, koreanic, japonic
P - proto northeast asians, altai, tuva, nivkh
Q - yeniseians, native americans
R - uyghur turkic, tagar culture
R1* - altai, tuva, uyghur turkic
R1a - european, indian huns, oghur/oghuz
R1b - asian, european saka/scythians, bashkirs
R2 - dravidians, sri lanka
As you can see C3, P (possibly hunnic, mongolic) haplogroups are northeast asians as descendants of C3, N, O3, P ancient northern east asians (ANEA) as classified in wiki. Their ancestor K2 was located in southeast asia together with D tibetoburmans and C2 austronesians, but they left there by a reason and migrated to north china (Liao region) as mutated to C3, N, O1, O2, O3, P as you can see their linkage.
Also, if we inspect language families uralic-altaic languages match with C3, N, O3, P haplogroups. Even O1 haplogroup matches with sinotic language. As a new language family (not exactly proven, but today accepted) Dene-Caucasian language family is also agglutinative language family.
Some indoeuropean lovers intentionally distort genetic studies by erasing linkage between P and Q, R haplogroups. Q and R haplogroups and their descendants R1, R1a, R1b, R2 are actually mutated from P (possibly hunnic) northeast asians. As P haplogroup are related to uralic-altaic people, their descendants should have linguistic linkage to uralic-altaic and related dene-caucasian (also maybe polisynthetic) languages.
Actually there are linkages accepted for Q haplogroup but R haplogroups are commented as indoeuropean, because some of R1a, R1b have been assimilated to indoeuropean languages during history. As far as I understand from history, I have some comments which are combined to historic, genetic, linguistic, archeologic studies about saka/scythian and hunnic people of northeast asia, east and west euroasia, central, south, southwest and west asia, east and west europe.
In my opinion, R1, R1a, R1b, R2 descendants of P haplogroup have mixed with J2 grecoroman and persian, G south caucasian arian, georgian, H south indian, I1 germanic, nordic visigoth, I2 slavic, balkanic, central european, ukrainian ostrogoth, L vedic sanskrit west indian people and assimilated to indoeuropean languages.
R and R1* ancestors of R1a and R1b people were living in east euroasia as hunnic, turkic tribes. Firstly some R1a have started to migrate into central asia and mutated to R1a in ice age. (after 25k BC) They were mostly elder Saka people and called as foreign people by old persian king I. Darius (persian of persians, arian of arians) even in late ages.
After they have been defeated by persians, they started to become iranic partly (originally hunnic, turkic). Also, some of saka, hunnic, turkic people have migrated to north india as R1a haplogroup but as assimilated to iranic languages. Also, some group have passed over caucasia and became north caucasians as ancestors of Yamnaya, Andronovo, Afanasievo cultures.
Those Yamnaya cultures also spread to east and north europe and balkans as tatars. In 6.5k BC, they also produced tatarlaka tablets in elder agglutinative language. They have even reached until scandinavia and mixed with I1 germanic, nordic visigoths; reached until balkans and mixed with I2 slavic, central european, ukrainian ostrogoths time by time.
Also another mutation inside R1a have occurred in central asia (Turkmenstan) as R1b in early 20-25k BC. Those R1b saka people separately passed to mesopotamia as Sumer (Sakir) and mixed with J1 aramic, akkadians, J2 babylonians, persians, G georgians, caucasian arians. They have protected their elder agglutinative language and spread to anatolia, caucasia.
They also spread to balkans, central europe and north italy as Tur, Sak people who were united back in Etruscan people. Etruscan people had a agglutinative language and was calling themselves as Rasenna similar to Ashina dynasty of Göktürks. They had cities called Kurt'un, Tark(a)n'a and they named Rum'a of grecoroman new capital city of Roman Empire in Italy.
Some groups of R1b Sak people migrated also into central, west, southwest and northwest europe and they named themselves as Saksons, Basq (Eu-sak-ara), Occitan (Eu-scythian), Scottish (Sak-ottish) etc. Southern Saks and Etruscans (eu-Tur-eu-Sak) have lost against grecoroman empire and invented latin language as mixed with J2 grecoroman language.
Also, northern Saks have mixed with I1 germanic, anglic, nordic visigoths and converted to germanic languages. They even reached until norway, iceland as germanic language speakers. But, their origin was agglutinative and vasconic languages as linked to R1b basq (Euskara) people who have remained isolated and still speaking vasconic language.
Because, N, O1, O2, O3, P, Q, R, R1, R1a, R1b, R2 people are genetically relative and most of those people were originally speaking agglutinative languages including uralic, altaic and dene-caucasian languages. So we should call them as our relative Saka/Hunnic people of Indoeurope.
Note, just to inform, Dene-Caucasian languages:
Sinotibetan,
Yeniseian,
NaDene, Atabasqan,
Algic, Almosan,
Burushaski hunza,
Sumerian,
North caucasian,
Tyrsenian, Raetic, Etruscan,
Vasconic, Basq,
also maybe includes tamil dravidian and even other unclassified related languages...
Sabirok mentek mzopotámiába .../Ki-engi ... népe.
:)
Amazing documentary!
The history of the Gaoju is given in the respective entry in WS 103 + (pp. 2505-2508); until the beginning of Text 1.056/B it is extracted as follows.
高車,蓋古赤狄之餘種也初號為狄歷,北方以為敕勒,諸夏以為高車、丁零。 其語略與匈奴同而時有小異,或云其先匈奴之也。
The Gaoju are probably the remaining tribes of the ancient Chidi [lit. 'the red Di']. Initially they were called Dili. People in the north called them Chile, whereas people in China proper called them Gaoju or Dingling.
*Their language is roughly the same as that of the Xiongnu* but at times has minor differences from that. Some say that their ancestors were the nephew of [i.e. indirectly related to] the Xiongnu.
Note:Gaoju means Tiele, one of the oldest ancient Turkic tribes.
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@@edwardsnowden8821 smartest terrorist.
There is something wrong with the map around the 14 minute mark. The Goguryeo and Korea labeled on your map is the situation in the 6th century, there was no Goguryeo in this period, it should be Wiman joseon.
Indeed. I noticed it much later. Thanks for pointing it out nonetheless.
16:38 what a failure this video is. You are talking about the warring state era yet you showed an image of the three kingdom period 😓 There was no “Emperor Qin” but the XXX (Tittle) King XXX (name) of Qin; Qin was the name of the state and the head was a duke claiming to be a King. The corresponding Chinese word for emperor Huangdi hadn’t been invented yet
In a matter of decades Modu united all of eastern Inner Asia and created an empire larger than that of Alexander the Great. The standing army of the Xiongnu was also expanded to 300,000 men, now a match for the huge armies of Han China.
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To be honest, these Siberian/ Altay Steppe tribes are real good at war.
But Chinese dynasties aren‘t doing to bad to hold their ground from waves of attack last few thousand years.
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@@merrick6484 The seems good at war because if the life style, no permanent settlements, no permanent production sites. the cost of war was so low, any civilization that had permanent settlements were at disadvantages. Same with the mongols. If they need food during war, they will just loot surrounded villages. For the other side, how do they loot the nomadics, they got nothing. Nomadics wouldn't even engage when at disadvantage, and you can't really chase them too far due to food supplies.
Elinize sağlık atalarımın hikayesinin bir kısmını farklı milletler anlattığınız için teşekkürler. Türkiye den selamlar.
1 There are 56 ethnic groups in China. Similarly, there are many nomadic peoples living on the vast Mongolian plateau. It is ridiculous to think that all 56 ethnic groups in China are Han, or that all nomads (tribes) in the grasslands of northern China are Huns and Turks. 2 As the only historical recorder of the northern nomads, China has detailed records for each nomad. Because all the nomads engaged in massive wars with the Han. Each nomad has a large number of captives to interrogate. So the accuracy of history books is very high. A total of 5,340 wars and civil wars occurred between the Han nationality and various ethnic groups. 3. The real Turks are the yellow race. According to the historical records of the Han nationality, the Turkic Khan refused to give a high official to the tribal leader because he looked like a Huren (caucasian). 4. Finding one's own ancestors requires a foundation. And use genetics effectively. Genetic tests show that 90% are Eastern Roman Greeks and Armenians who were conquered by the Pseudo-Turks. 5 English-speaking Filipinos, Indians and East Africans are not British. Likewise, speaking Turkic (the lingua franca of the steppe) is not Turkic. None of the 56 ethnic groups that speak Chinese is Han. 6 The Turks and Huns were among a dozen powerful nomadic peoples who disappeared on the bloody Mongolian steppes, and they were all losers in the northern steppes. In the Mongolian grasslands in the north, only Mongolian and Xianbei (fishing and hunting peoples) survive. 7 The Tocharians in Xinjiang are Persians from the Iranian plateau. They speak Old Persian and come from the Indus Valley. After 840 AD, the Uighurs entered Tarim, and the Tocharian language gradually disappeared. 8 Chinese history books have continuously recorded the history of nomads in the northern grasslands for 3,000 years, reflecting the actual situation at that time. is the only reference definition. It cannot be intentionally curved or artistic. 9 The conquest of the Eastern Romans in Anatolia by the Pseudo-Turks (Turkic-speaking tribes) was of exactly the same nature as the conquest of China by the Manchurians in 1644. A small number of nomads took over the populated areas. It is as absurd for the Anatolians to say that they are Turks from northern China, just as the Han people say that they are from the northern grasslands.
@@MuTong-k3s söylediklerinin bir kısmı doğru. Türkler beyaz Turanid ırktandı ve ırktan bunu bazı kişiler Moğol istilasına bağlar ama yalandır. Selçuklu da Moğol istilasından önce çekik gözlü beyaz tenli insanların minyatürleri yapılmıştı ve günümüz Türkiye Türklerinden de çekik gözlü beyaz tenli belirgin elmacık kemikli insanlar var ve Türkiye de çoğu insan böyle görünüyor ayrıca Hunlar Türktü Hunlar Türk değilse kimse Türk değildi çünkü GökTürkler Hunların devamıydı ve Hun gelenekleri eski Türk gelenekleriyle aynıydı. Mete Han (Hun hükümdarı) Türkler tarafından destansılaştırılmıştı. Zaten Türkiye Türklerinin hepsinde Turanid genler yok ve hepsi çin yakınlarında yaşayan Türklerden değildi daha batıda yaşayan Türkler de Anadoluya geldi. Hunlardan önce Alp Er Tunga da anadoluyu türkleştirmişti.
Turks now and then are totally different group of people.
so happy found this channel !
The Xiongnu were very good at escaping and hiding in the steppes, the Chinese spend 90% of war time and huge resource, to just searching for their location, once found out Xiongnu army, they escaped again
*proceeds to name mongol names as being the leader and how they called themselves hunnu. All of these are mongol words and names, yet continues to call them turks. Jesus christ. Please stop saying the xiongnu and the huns as being turks. They were the same people whose children eventually built the mongol empire. There were mongol clans and turkic clans but were all essentially the same people who had differences in only language. Call it what it is. Hunnu (which directly translates to people). We were the people of the steppes who lived and fought together
Mongol? Where? By 0 AD, when the Xiongnu were at their climax, there were NO Mongol-speaking people in the core of the empire. This has been stated over and over again by linguists, and archeologists as well as historians have proven that the Mongol tribes like Donghu were at the EDGE of what is nowadays Mongolia. The fact that you are equating everything that ever happened in the country now known as "Mongolia" with the Mongols is a logic that we can of course apply to Turkey, and how the Roman and Byzantine Empires because... well. The country is named "Turkey" today. Makes perfect sense, doesn't it? You should take your time and try to understand what terms like "Migration" mean. Then you'll eventually understand what this video is about.
What the hell. The core of the Huns were Mongols. Turkic-speaking tribes were ruled. It has nothing to do with today's Turks. Stop spreading false information
Source?
@@KhansDen en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiongnu
See genetic research. All Xiongnu burial now in Mongolia. See also en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noin-Ula_burial_site
@@melehtecolambalwikipedia doesn’t even support his claim too
@@papazataklaattiranimam i don't need support haha. The whole world knows that Mongolians are descendants of Huns. Turks also have nothing to do with today's Turkey. Even Allah can't help you with that hehe
@@erdenebatbat-amgalan1488 Moğollarla Hun'lar ne alaka? moğolların tarihten bugüne kadar eti ne budu ne? Kalkmış imparatorluklar yıkıp imparatorluklar kuran Türklerle kendinizi kıyaslıp boy ölçüşmeye kalkıyonuz, Türkler olmasaydı moğollar yok olup gitmişti varlığınızı bile Türklere borçlusunuz
The original pronounciation of Mode Shanyu is Batyr Tarkhan.
Interesting
@wratch-gd2jq yes
Tarkan is still today a name used by Turks
It's great, please keep going next and more.
The origin of Turks in the Chinese Chronicle 《Bei Shi 》( 北史, history of the Northern dynasties, from 386AD~618AD,compiled in 659 AD) records as :
突厥者，其先居西海之右，獨為部落，蓋匈奴之別種也。姓阿史那氏。後為鄰國所破，盡滅其族。有一兒，年且十歲，兵人見其小，不忍殺之，乃刖足斷其臂，棄草澤中。有牝狼以肉餌之，及長，與狼交合，遂有孕焉。彼王聞此兒尚在，重遣殺之。使者見在狼側，並欲殺狼。於時若有神物，投狼於西海之東，落高昌國西北山。山有洞穴，穴內有平壤茂草，周迥數百里，四面俱山。狼匿其中，遂生十男。十男長，外托妻孕，其後各為一姓，阿史那即其一也，最賢，遂為君長
The origin of Turks was a 10-year-old boy from a tribe which is a descendant tribe of Xiong-Nu ( Huns ) living on the right-hand side ( west?) of Xi-Hai ( West Sea, probably Lake Issyak in nowadays Kyrgyzstan ) who survived the massacre from the enemy tribe. The boy's four limbs were chopped off and he was thrown into bushes because the soldiers could not bear to kill such a young boy. The boy was raised by a she-wolf and impregnated the she-wolf as he became a man. The enemy tribe leader learned the news and resent troops to kill the boy( a grownup man then ). As the enemy troops approached, a "divine wind" suddenly blew the pregnant she-wolf to the east side of Xi-Hai as the soldiers tried to kill "her". The shewolf then gave birth to ten boys. Each of them grew up and established his own Turkish clan and Ashina ( 阿史那 ) was one of them. The Ashina clan was the strongest of the ten clans therefore the chief of the Ashina clan was the leader of Turks.
Tujue ?
@@middleeastrenwarriormen1017 That's right! 突厥（modern Mandarin: Tu-Jue, middle Chinese: Tut-Kiet）is the name of Türkiye mentioned in the Chinese historical sources in the 6th century.
Very informative thank you
The modern generation of Hunnu are Sakha(Yakutian) people, we are last people who saved Tengrism
Altai,Khakas,Tuva: ok.
@SabinaDaitbeghanova эфталиты - это и есть те же гунны, только которые долбили Сасанидский Иран,и для них они известны как Эфталиты. Тенгрианство существовал до всех этих религий, до манихейства, до арианства, до буддизма.
Çok iyi video. 👍🏻
Proud of my ancestors xiongnu and xianbei and rouran gokturks and mongols long live mongolia
China's Historical Records should be the world's most complete record of the changing history of human civilization. It extends to Iran (formerly known as Persia in Chinese, where an emperor hoped to get help from a Chinese emperor and eventually settled in Xinjiang), Afghanistan, India, Southeast Asia and other places. The Huns, like today's drive-by robbers, ran away after robbing. At first, it was difficult for the government to mobilize police forces to catch them. Until later, the emperor was determined to solve this problem, a 17-year-old general, many times blitzkrieg raid on the main camp of the Huns, the last part of the choice to surrender, some fled the land.
And the best part is that all these written records can be read by the modern day Chinese with high school education without any problems.
What legacy could there be left off?Xiongnu's majority haplogroup R became extinct,Chanyu's Y haplogroup is R-Y174827,,Only descendants are a hakka family,probably kept hostage 2000 years ago
The Xiongnu established the political culture that is typical for future steppe empires or confederations, from the Xianbei and Rouran to the Göktürks and Uygurs. Blood has nothing on cultural achievements.
Türkler hakkında bilgiler veren çok başarılı bir tarihi anlatım olmuş. Asya Hun devletinin imparatorluktan daha çok bir konfederasyon devleti olduğu doğrudur. Bu coğrafyada yaşayan, toprağına sığmayan dik başlı Türk toplulukları ve bozkır halkları genellikle kendi aralarında çatışma yaşayıp birbirlerine karşı hakimiyet kurma savaşına girişiyorlardı. Bu durum onları düşmanlarına karşı zayıflatıp bir varlık gösterememelerine neden oluyordu. Bu durumu çok iyi bilen Metehan'ın en büyük hayali bütün bozkır halklarını tek bir çatı altında toplamaktı. Bunu başarmak için bir imparator olmak yerine bir komutan olmayı seçti. Güçlü liderlik özellikleri ile bütün bozkır halklarının saygısını kazandı ve onları tek bir çatı altında toplamayı başardı. ''Bozkırda yay çeken kim varsa hepsini bir araya topladım. Şimdi hepsi Hun oldular'' sözlerinin Metehan'a ait olduğu rivayet edilir. Halkına vaad ettiği her şeyi gerçekleştirerek nasıl bir lider ve komutan olduğunu sonuna kadar kanıtladı. Metehan; milletine, kültürüne ve töresine sonuna kadar bağlı, muhteşem bir lider, deha bir asker ve çok iyi bir devlet adamıydı.
Modu shayu was probably a proto mongol hunnic emperor of certain hunnic groups
I was busy with work and life and haven’t got a chance to watch your videos for a long time. The quality of this video has amazed me, you’ve done a great job, bravo! Do you still remember the slides that I’ve sent you last year and the possible collaboration that we could do together? If so please reply, thanks.
Hey there, yes I do remember that! So sorry that I did not have the time back then. Please contact me again via mail. I believe there is potential for the topic you told me about.
@@KhansDen No problem. Could you give me your email address once again cause I already forgot it, thanks.
@@weifan9533 Sure, it's info@thekhansden.com
@@KhansDen Thanks, I'll send you an email when I have time.
I am sorry you receive so many discouraging comments. You are doing a great job with amazing results, please don't pay attention to ignorant people.
Love Xiongnu from South Korea
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What is the name of the folk music playing at 10:29?
It's a song by Farya Faraji called "Modu's Song" --> ua-cam.com/video/meIv7Cd_ZIs/v-deo.html
THANKS PLEASE PUT ALL THE MUSIC NAMES, THE ONE THAT FOLLOWS THAT TRACK IS ALSO 🔥🔥@@KhansDen
You cant read those 2 chinese hieroglyphics as "shan-yu" , because in ancient Chinese that is pronounced as " han-gan"
the regios in the map are part of tibet, its 2 of the 3 tibetan prvince. amdo which is the indo turki group n khampa witch are the xiongxu group... khampa warriors
It is a fantastic history telling.
An earlier date for the separation of proto-Turkic, preceding 209 BC would support the identification of Xiongnu language with proto-Bulgharic or one of its subgroups, while a later date of separation would make its association with proto-Turkic more plausible.
Alexander Savelyev, Martine Robbeets, Bayesian phylolinguistics infers the internal structure and the time-depth of the Turkic language family, Journal of Language Evolution, Volume 5, Issue 1, January 2020
7:20 - Lol, this documentary narration seems to be geographically challenged. If the map is accurate, then the area occupied by the Donghu is not "Mongolia", but rather modern-day NE China (also known as Manchuria in English). Modern day Mongolia is where the Xiongnu occupied on the map.
That's a geopgrahical mistake on my part. Thanks for the correction.
동호는 거란(키타이) 해족 이다 몽골족과 같은 선비족에서 파생된 민족이다
중국 수제국 당제국의 지배 민족이 선비족이다
In short, it is hard to think of any other ethnolinguistic entity in history that conquered so vast a territory and founded so many empires and states, also contributing to world civilizations. The history of the Turkic peoples was an important factor in world history for more than a millennium until the emergence of Europe as the world's dominant power. What happened in the Turkic world often affected the history of China, Central Asia, the Middle East, South Asia, and Europe. One may also argue that world history began with the "Turko-Mongol" empire created by Chinggis Khan. In the contem- porary world, Turkic-speaking nations form six states (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyz- stan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, and Turkey/Türkiye) and several "autonomous" units in Russia (the republics of Chuvash, Tatarstan, Bashkor- tostan, Altai, Khakassia, Tuva, and Sakha) and China (the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region). Turkic peoples also reside as minority groups in several other countries, including Mongolia and Iran, among others. It would there- fore be difficult to acquire a comprehensive understanding of world history as well as our present world without studying the history of the Turkic peoples.
at the time of Genghis Khan there are only mongols ruling similarly traditioned turkic and khitan nomads. only until the time of his grandchildren, excluding Kublai Khan who conquered china, other mongol khans started to convert to Islam and use turkic tribal leaders as ministers at their hordes the other khanates were 'mongol-Turkic', as time goes by, those mongol-turkic khans become totally Turkic
@@berserk9085 Turkic, Semitic and Mongolic are ethno-linguistic entities unlike Indo-European which is combination of 15-20 different ethno-linguistic groups as Sino-Tibetan.
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When Temüjin was a boy, the center of the steppe world was the Orkhon Valley, the old imperial site of the Türks. The valley was dominated by the Kereit. To the west, on the upper Irtysh River, lay Naiman territory. The Kereit and Naiman, not the Mongols, were masters of the steppe. The Kereit and Naiman elites spoke Turkic and had partially converted to Christianity under the influence of the Nestorian Church. In an effort to out do each other, To'oril of the Kereit and Tayang Qan of the Naiman accumulated men, weapons, alliances, and prestige. Yesügei Ba'atur sided with the Kereit. Later Chinggis Khan would subdue the Kereit and the Naiman in the course of a protracted effort to defeat all challengers among the steppe peoples.
The Horde How the Mongols Changed the World
Marie Favereau, p.32-33
In reality , Mongol is not an appropriate name because while the leaders of this movement were Mongol most of their army were Turkish tribesmen . The Turkish influence in the Mongol army had been extremely extensive , the two branches of the Mongol empire - Khanat Joji ( the Golden Horde ) and Khanat Jeghtai - who ruled the region had by the fourteenth century totally adopted Turkish culture. Central Asia, which was the base of Jeghtai government, in reality was the centre of Turkish culture . However , even beyond the Ural mountains , the Turkish culture enjoyed a strong presence .14
Ehteshami, A., 1994. From the Gulf to Central Asia. Exeter: University of Exeter Press, p.78.
Although the Turks often comprised the bulk of the Mongol army as well as the bulk of armies opposed to the Mongols, throughout the domains of the Mongol Empire there was a diffusion of military technology, which has already bee and also ethnic groups. In addition to the Mongols and Turks, other ethnicities served in the Mongol military machine and found themselves distant from home.
May, T.M., 2012. The Mongol conquests in world history, London: Reaktion Books. p.222
@@berserk9085 A similar view was held by the 11th century Arab historian Sa'ed Al-Andalusi. In his book "Category of the nations" he said the following about the Turks: "And their virtue which they skilled in is warfare and its means/tools, they are the best nation when it comes to chivalry, archery and swordsmanship"
In another part of the book he says that the Chinese used to refer to the king of the Turks as "The king of the lions".
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The noblest of these nations that were not interested in science are the Chinese and the Turks. The Chinese are the largest of the peoples by number, the most imposing by kingdom, and the most considerable by territory. The domains they occupy are in the eastern parts of the inhabited world, between the equinoctial line to the extreme of the seven climates to the north. His share in knowledge (ma'rifa) is to surpass all nations in mastery of handicrafts and perfection of graphic arts. They are the most suffered of men in the prolonged effort, which the improvement of the works [supposes], as well as in enduring the harshness of the penalties in the perfection of the arts (sana'i").
As for the Turks, [they] also form a great nation with numerous troops and an imposing kingdom. The domains they inhabit are found between the eastern regions of Juräsän, [on the side] of the Islamic empire, the western regions of China, northern India, and the extreme north of the inhabited world. Their virtue is that they stand out and achieve supremacy in doing war, as well as in the elaboration of weapons; for they are the most skilful of men in horsemanship and [warfare] tactics, and the keenest of eyes for spearing, striking with the sword, and shooting arrows.
Ahmad, A.S. ibn and Salgado, M.F. (1999) Libro de las categorías de las naciones: Vislumbres desde el islam clásico sobre la filosofía y la ciencia. Tres cantos: Akal., p.43
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Biz bitti demeden hiçbir şey bitmez
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Uploaded DNA data to myancestry and found as Hakka descent I have multiple ancestors from Xiongnu and other steppers around the same region including as far as Korea and mongol hordes. Although, the authenticity of the DNA analysis website is questionable still found very interesting to have connections with the ancient steppes.
Not reliable sources. However many nomads joined Han and lives as Han ever since. Because being Han means civilised. So no big deal.
@@aoltechnology1586 It's a pretty cool thing though because Hakka people are mostly in southern part of China and there were some small researches questioning whether Hakka were mixed with xiongnu ethnic groups or not.
Hakka is basically "guest people's" and took many centuries or even millennia to be accepted by Southern Chinese and incorporated into greater han Chinese identity as we know today. Hakka peoples are everywhere in the world basically, more than other han subgroups, even Cantonese. You can find han Chinese in basically every major city in the world, and it is not surprising if some han Chinese have some hakka ancestry since apart from hakka people and Cantonese people, Hui, etc, how many other han subgroup can be named by even han Chinese and have such a widespread community and also still speaks their dialect fluently etc.
While hakka people's today is known as southern Chinese, originally, who knows where they are from. They could be from the north originally, and most likely are. Or at least that's what is currently accepted as hakka history.
"The word Hakka or "guest families" is Cantonese in origin and originally refers to the Northern Chinese migrants fleeing social unrest, upheaval and invasions in northern parts of China (such as Gansu and Henan) during the Qing dynasty who then sought sanctuary in the Cantonese provinces such as Guangdong and Guangxi, thus the original meaning of the word implies that they are guests living in the Cantonese provinces."
This is what Wikipedia says, and like i said hakka means guest people and that is what Cantonese called us when we first migrated to the south(from the north obviously) to get away from war and strife etc. That has never stopped, which is why there are heaps of hakka everywhere including Taiwan, hk, even overseas.
So yeah. If hakka has some xiongnu or other ancestry, it is not surprising at all considering that even white people in USA have mongol or African ancestries, let alone some hakka people with other han Chinese subgroup(like xiongnu or mongol or Manchu etc). When you have been around for thousands of years and have migrated everywhere in China and the world, it is not surprising at all. Same as Mongolia expanding everywhere and ghengis etc having thousands of offspring and marrying their daughters into han imperial lineage and other countries imperial lineages etc. That was the whole plan to begin with for ghengis lol. And it worked out quite well for him and Mongols, or at least for a period of time. But in the end they underestimated the power of Chinese civilization and their Chinese dynasty didn't even last a century, and after that they got assimilated into Chinese civilization and more Mongolians live in china today as han Chinese than in Mongolia itself. Mongolia wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for both China and Russia wanting a neutral buffer state between them.
If you dont look like EAST ASIAN, you probably have nothing to do with Mongol or XiongNu
@@ex0duzz human trafficking is also of a common practices till 1970s. Thus if not through genetic evidence, is always going to be difficult to find true ancestors.
Very interesting.
The video is well done! Respect the author's efforts. At the same time I also understand that modern Turks have to look for a great ancestor. But the following issues need to be considered. 1 There are 56 ethnic groups in China. Similarly, there are many nomadic peoples living on the vast Mongolian plateau. It is ridiculous to think that all 56 ethnic groups in China are Han, or that all nomads (tribes) in the grasslands of northern China are Huns and Turks. 2 As the only historical recorder of the northern nomads, China has detailed records for each nomad. Because all the nomads engaged in massive wars with the Han. Each nomad has a large number of captives to interrogate. So the accuracy of history books is very high. A total of 5,340 wars and civil wars occurred between the Han nationality and various ethnic groups. 3. The real Turks are the yellow race. According to the historical records of the Han nationality, the Turkic Khan refused to give a high official to the tribal leader because he looked like a Huren (caucasian). 4. Finding one's own ancestors requires a foundation. And use genetics effectively. Genetic tests show that 90% are Eastern Roman Greeks and Armenians who were conquered by the Pseudo-Turks. 5 English-speaking Filipinos, Indians and East Africans are not British. Likewise, speaking Turkic (the lingua franca of the steppe) is not Turkic. The 56 ethnic groups who speak Chinese are not Han. 6 The Turks and Huns were among a dozen powerful nomadic peoples who disappeared on the bloody Mongolian steppes, and they were all losers in the northern steppes. The victors in the northern Mongolian grasslands were the Mongols and the Xianbei (fishing and hunting peoples). 7 The Tocharians in Xinjiang are Persians from the Iranian plateau. They speak Old Persian and come from the Indus Valley. After 840 AD, the Uighurs entered Tarim, and the Tocharian language gradually disappeared. 8 Chinese history books have continuously recorded the history of nomads in the northern grasslands for 3,000 years, reflecting the actual situation at that time. is the only reference definition. It cannot be deliberately bent or artistic. 9 The conquest of the Eastern Romans in Anatolia by the Pseudo-Turks (Turkic-speaking tribes) was exactly the same in nature as the conquest of China by the Manchurians in 1644. A small number of nomads took over the populated areas. Anatolians (modern-day Turkey) say they are Turks from northern China, just as absurd as Han people say they come from the northern grasslands.
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만주족도 중국인이 아니죠 만리장성 밖의 민족 부족들은 중국기준으로 다 오랑캐 이죠 ㅋㅋㅋ
Kıçı kirli tarihçiden kıçından uydurma tarih dinlediniz😂😂😂 Türklerle kıçı kirli çin'lileri bir bağ kurmaya çalışma aşağılık mahlukat
The video makes Mete Han sound like a modern day crime lord.
@@melehtecolambal for sure
@@anthonyproffitt5341nah Metehan was just to Sigma 😏
In history xiongnu was wipe out from west China under han military expeditionary. That’s the last of xiongnu in Chinese history… next is the mongol that replaced xiongnu
Will you make a video of the bulgars?
ancient Chinese as in Tang dynasty or before pronouns xiongnu was not xiongnu. It was pronounced as Hung- nu. Nu means slaves or description an ethnic not Han Chinese, such as calling Japanese wal-nu as their ethnic name is wa. I think the idea of Turkic tribes is a bit over exaggerated by this channel. This is probably the other way around. Turkic tribes may associate origin in Mongolia, with ancient Mongolic n Tungusic tribes. The nomadic population diversified through different direction to form different ethnic sub groups later. Seems to be the westward branch formed Altaic n assimilated with natives along their way to todays Central Asia, n which was the ethnic Turkic gradually formed this migration.
The fact is Mongolian is not Turkic but they share the origins with Turkic, same as Tungusic.
I don't think that the Mongols have ever been equated with the Turks or vice versa. We constantly stressed the differences and similarities between both peoples. However, we do focus on Turkic history because it has been neglected very much in history books worldwide, only focusing on the Ottomans and occasionally noticing the Seljuks and Göktürks.
@@KhansDen it is good to have someone like u to talk about this subject. However being objective n honestly expressing oneself is very important principle in history studies.
What do u mean that ‘the mongols never been equal to the Turks’ ???
Keep on good work but dont do it like nationalists propaganda as those ccp Chinese does history.
Well go and read Hyun Jin Kil than
Who said Mongols would not have been "equal" to the Turks? That is NOT what was written. To be equated means to be made the same, not to be put on the same level. Thus, the assumption "Turks = Mongols", which is false and historically was never the case. That is what my reply was about.@@carlnilssonyoung8961
someones need to learn english :D@@KhansDen
If you use historical materials from China, you must explain the specific reasons for the strength and decline of the Xiongnu. I would like to remind you that the ancient Han people were not afraid of the Xiongnu. After the Battle of Baden, the Han people realized their own lack of strength. Therefore, for 60 years after the death of Emperor Gaozu of Han, two generations of Han emperors were actively developing the economy, raising horses, and forming cavalry legions. In the end, during the reign of Emperor Wu of Han, the Xiongnu were completely defeated
IN THE END we are still there and here. there is no jin qing or han today but there still china. hun changed to turk. we still there and here in turkey.. we collapsed europe arran india for centuries and china's ruled by northern nomadic rooted dynasties for nearly thousand years.. who lost? can you even live a place without china. U f.. dumbs in baideng war has 320000 trop when we have nearly have 30000 troops. how can you lost this war? how weak you are? china always used numbers to defeat us, because you dont have fight ability. %99 of china been peasants of thier history. do you know that we dont have a word for soldier in turkic because every turk is a soldier so there is no need to difference for civil and soldier. yet today china's number 1.400 million when sum of turks 300 million. in those days u have the numbers 1 to 10 but today is nearly 1 to 4/5. and at 2100 china population will be decreased to likely 800million when the turks stay same or getting bigger.. So i am really curious without the numbers how will you defeat us. Prepare for us. this time we will come with our people :D
@@muratozgun2813 you are dreaming? It was very simple for the Han Dynasty to destroy the Xiongnu. Compared with the Han army, the Xiongnu were like savages. The Han Dynasty was at least 800 years ahead of the world in iron smelting. (This is not an exaggeration.) Has China been ruled by nomads for thousands of years? Did you invent history? ? After the fall of the Xiongnu, and even hundreds of years later, the Turks should not have been destroyed. In fact, these countries and peoples in Central and West Asia were conquered by the nomads in northern China until today.
@@muratozgun2813 The reason for the large number of Han troops was that the comprehensive national strength of the Han Dynasty was strong and could support a large number of troops and cavalry with the highest armor rate in the world at that time, while the Huns could not even provide food and clothing. One Han army can defeat ten Xiongnu. This is what the Xiongnu Chanyu himself said. Although it is an exaggeration, it shows the status of Han Dynasty soldiers in the eyes of the Xiongnu leaders at that time. Until the Huns were completely exterminated and the remaining parts were integrated into China
@@muratozgun2813 You seem to have been trying to convey that the Han Dynasty was very productive, and I don't doubt that. After all, the Han Dynasty was the first country in human history to undergo the iron smelting industrial revolution. The Han army's individual soldiers and horses had a very high armor coverage rate. The Huns were indeed strong, but too backward. The Xiongnu's only smelting and armor technologies were learned from the Han Dynasty. In the end, it could not change the fate of being destroyed. All nomadic peoples suffered the same fate, including the Turks behind them, who were easily destroyed by the Tang Dynasty. Another thing I'm curious about is that the Han people and the Huns are the same family, but why are your descendants who were conquered by the Huns speaking for the Huns? ? ?
@@muratozgun2813 The nomadic ethnic group Xianbei Rouran Khitan Jurchen, which emerged one after another, were all Sinicized. They were all ethnic groups from northern China, and the rise of Mongolia was entirely due to the division of China at that time. Otherwise, just like the Han Dynasty destroyed the Xiongnu and the Tang Dynasty destroyed the Turks, Mongolia could not rise at all. The Jurchen people of the Jin Dynasty suppressed the Mongols for more than a hundred years and implemented a policy of extermination against them for a hundred years, Temujin's grandfather and father were both killed by the Jurchen people of the Jin Dynasty, which led to Genghis Khan Temujin's hatred towards the Jurchen people. The Mongols and Jurchens are a generational hatred. After the decline of the late Jin Dynasty, Mongolia rose up. Otherwise, Mongolia would not be able to rise at all. Genghis Khan only needs a few thousand soldiers to defeat West Asia. But Genghis Khan, who had gathered all his troops and Mongol Khan Genghis Khan himself, died in battle during the Jin Dynasty. His later leader, Ogotai, united with all the khans and the Song Dynasty to defeat the weakened Jin Dynasty for decades. And in the future, the Mongols could easily disperse all their troops from Asia to Eastern Europe and West Asia, like cutting a cake. The Jin Dynasty, which was capable of demonstrating its decline, was also stronger than other countries in the world at that time.
As a Bulgarian I have doughs that these people weren't white because i wanted to be my ancestors I respect the ancient Turkic people a lot regardless
original turkic are mongoloids east asians..until they reaches eastern europe a few hundred years later with heavy indo european mixed blood (eurasian).
@achtungbaby2009 We arrived before the Mongols and the Turks are descended from the Huns.
@@achtungbaby2009The history of the Turks begins in 9000 BC Turks have 7 ancient civilizations in Asia and the first state of the Turks was established in 220 BC.
the narrative is God mode spectacular.
Proto-Mongolic state not Turkic state
Learn history
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Modu= Methe mete
Xiangnu = hunnu hunlu
Şhanyu = Hanyu Şenyu
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Modu had also subjected an equally large empire of China to the payment of tribute. Modu was in many ways Alexander«s equal, maybe even superior when it comes to the extent of his conquests. The two rulers were also similar in that they were both suspected of having assassinated their fathers (Touman and Philip) in order to seize the throne. Modu, however, was clearly the more competent politician and administrator of the two.
far more superior.
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@@berserk9085 rare person understands Modu's influence on history. besides crushing more powerful opponents than Persia, he left successors who destroyed Rome. pushing westward they spread nomadic culture including trousers or mass horse riding, up to Britain. u right, Modu probably spoke mongolian language. mongols constantly were proving quran is nothing before the strength of the Tengri on the field of battle.
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Will you make a video about Kazakh Khanate?
Xiongnu got wiped out by Han emperor han Wudi. Became dustbin of history.
This is the truth fact. But i guess the pisslam hard to accept the fact. Haha😆❤ I love han chinese. They are strong. We indian need to learn from the chinese to teach this pisslam a lesson.
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if got wiped why are we still in east asia? Look at map you still in china when we had 3x more land than our ancestral land. And dont forget kazakhstan kyrgyzstan, mongolia, uzbekistan, turkiye, turkmenistan still here. Actually your half of dystasties from northen nomadic tribes. we ruled you hundred of years :D
@@muratozgun2813 kazahs and Turks are not huns. You guys got wiped out. The rest had to change their name to Wang or lee so they can live and blendin in China. Buy the way those harsh countries you adopted in your imagination ain't worth living in.
You say kazakh and turks are not hun but you also say you got wiped. You contradicting with yourself. When hun falls the turks didnt wiped but came back with new names. You have to know that cause what happens china with few hundred years. But there is a different central asian nomads never ruled by foreigner dynasties unlike your china which is many of them from altaic peoples. Thats show who is winner. Those countries of steppes are far better than your dog and rat eating poor country :D. Why chinese have dog eating culture because %99 of chinese live poor conditions for whole time even today. Black death emerged in china, even today's corona emerged from china because your dirty people eat everything they find because of poorness. Remember when our mighty Cengiz Kağan and his mogul army didnt even enter beijing after winning because of its bad weather. We turks never wanted to conquer china and live there.. Its a bad place to live when comparing to central asia. We only come there for harvest our CORNs :D @@hpw-ws6bj
From the Xiongnue Empire to the Mongol Empire, things haven't changed much in ~1400 years, I see.
The Huns are the descendants of Dayu of the Xia Dynasty (a very important figure in Chinese mythology), so the current Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Turkmen, Kazakhs, Khakass, etc. are all distant relatives of the Chinese
Kazakh and Uzbek was Turkic-Mongol and Mongol Turkified
@SabinaDaitbeghanova there's no such thing as turanoid race. It's a cope made by anatolians in Turkey.
@@troigcyusaBut the Aryan peoples lived in western Mongolia and they married with. Hun tribes
@@troigcyusait's a term used for Euroasians learn before you speak
@@troigcyusa Türkler hakkında yorum yapmak senin gibi şeytan insan melezi birine düşmez o yüzden haddini bil Türkler hakkında yorum yapma
凶奴 sounds [hyoong no] in Korean pronunciation. And it may be similar to ancient Chinese pronunciation than Xiongnu.
hiongnu in some chinese dialects
Still [hiong-no] in many Chinese dialects. Since ancient Korean was influenced by ancient Chinese a lot, that's reasonable.
Great Mongol ancestors
And turkic
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That’s wrong, Xiongnu is a tribe name, its ruler race are East Asian, Turkic people was their slave, Turkic people good at make iron weapons, and serve the Huns. XiongNu are the ancestors of many northern Nomads. Xiongnu was destroyed by Han Emperor and south Xiongnu are integrated into Chinese, north Xiongnu ran away to west Asia. I don’t think there is much connection between Xiongnu with current Turkish people.
China has comprehensive history records of Xiongnu, they are nothing like current Turkish people.
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我们有历史记录，他们只能发挥自己的想象，哈哈哈
@@papazataklaattiranimam anatolian arab cope
So great to know. Thanks
흉노의 金日磾 가 신라 金 씨 왕조의 조상이라고 기록되어 있다
Turkic peoples❤️
Hunnic words recorded by chinese sources (Shi ji, Weishu, Jinshu, Hanshu, Songshu, Nan qi shu, Wei Lue, Zhu Chun commentary, Sima Qian, 4th c., Zhang Hua commentary):
baš, böklüg, gǖd-t-i, durak, kiŋrak, küp, orun, qarsaq, qodïqï, qoŋur, qurγaq, taki, taŋri, tạy, tẹmür, toγ, ulaλa, qorïɣan
Turkic: baš, bök, küδ, turuγ, qïŋraq, küp, orun, qarsaq, qodïqï, qoŋur, qušaq, taγ, täŋri, tay, temir, toγ, alaša, qorïɣan
Chariots tended to be used where the horses weren't big enough to be ridden. Originally, horses were domesticated as meat animals, fairly small ones as I understand it.
U forgot the Xiongnu was repeatedly defeated by the Han Empire under Emperor Wudi.
this video suppose to make xiongnu look good..like a winner. that's why no mention of them being slaughtered & booted out of China & mongolia.
But Modu defeated China a lot of wars
Xiongnu, Turkic and Mongolians tribes (East Siberian Nomads) all have caused trouble in northern border of Han Tribes (Chinese Dynasties), but thanks to great wall, only Mongolian Tribe managed to overpower Han Tribe and occupied the land of 68 years.
All other Siberian Tribes had been chase away, so they move westward to Middle East and Europe.
Noted: Manchurian Tribe were not started in the same Siberian Steppe grassland in Inner Mongolia.
@@burakdakak6322The Huns were defeated by China, left the grassland and fled to Europe.
@@burakdakak6322good until got chased off the map.🙃
The story about shooting horses and wives is probably exaggerated within this legend. Though it clearly tries to inherit a basic understanding of what military discipline should be like. I think it is a didactic story about something really important in the culture of the Turkic groups that would follow. How an army should be...
Why don't these video bloggers dare to mention that China people have perished these ethnic minorities, and now only Mongolians are still alive in the northern grassland?
why dont you realize that half of your dynasties came from northern nomads and ruled you hundred years? :D
OnlyyuNqing@@muratozgun2813
Who is Mete khan , not recorded that name and even Hunnish never used khan or khaan tittle. Khan and khaan also different tittle.
Han/Kağan(Kaghan) is the same meaning with different words. But true use is Kağan. Mete is chinese telling of Bagatur(Bahadır) Kağan. which means hero king in turkish. Bagatur came from batırmak verb. means sinking/stabbing.
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Scythians are Indo-European Central Asian Iranian nomads
Xiongnu are East Asian looking nomads
this is wrong and inaccurate
Eurocentric
Viva the East Turkestan
Hunnu is mongolic people.
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Genghis Khan is Mongol
Huns are Turkic not mongols
Huns🇹🇷🇦🇿🇰🇿🇹🇲🇰🇬🇺🇿+Other Turks
Fake history
Nope
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