Baby Backups: Bond Arms vs. NAA
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- If all-American, pint-sized handguns are on your wish list, the field of options can be instantly narrowed to two top choices - Bond Arms and North American Arms. But which one should you choose? Guns.com breaks down the specs, designs, calibers, and more to help make the right choice for each shooter.
This may look like a head-to-head of apples and oranges, but in the grand scheme of small-frame pocket guns, Bond and NAA stand alone. Though both companies also offer a short line of semi-automatic pistols, our focus here will be on the bread and butter of both companies. What we have is a derringer-style two-shooter in the Bond versus a miniature revolver in the North American Arms.
Both are built of stainless steel with quality construction right here in America. Bonds are built in Granbury, Texas, and NAA comes out of Provo, Utah. The majority of Bond models use a full trigger guard, though a few guns have exposed triggers. NAA, meanwhile, features an open spur-style trigger, whereby everything is compact, rounded, snag-free, and nearly impossible to print.
I've had a pair of the NAA .22 mini revolvers since the mid 1980's. They've saved my life in April of 1988, and just after dawn on Memorial Day morning, 2017. They are all I carry for my defense, and so far I've reached 71 years of age, thanks to these little guns b being so small, they are ALWAYS on me. No matter how I'm dressed. With CCI stingers, they will do the job!
I am curious about how they saved your life those two times. I understand if you would rather not comment.
how did they save your life?
@@scottrichmond3400 Without going into specifics, I was at that time carrying without a permit because the People's Republik Of Maryland did not have a CCW for us civilians. So I chose to carry illegally. One night while camped on the Appalachian Trail near the intersection of the AT and the Big Devil Stairs trail a wacko tried to invade my camp at night. I don't know what he wanted, but he was dressed in all black and a ski mask and wielding a large knife. One warning shot from the NAA that made a huge orange muzzle blast in the dark, and sounded like a much bigger gun, sent him running off through the woods. I packed. up and snuck off in the opposite direction. At daybreak, a hit the trail out of there.
On Memorial Day morning 2017 just after dawn, I was on the road back to my home in Georgetown Texas from visiting my daughter and grand daughter in Mission Viejo California. I had stopped for the night at Las Cruses New Mexico at a Motel 6. Hit the road at 5am. About 7am the other side of El Paso by a little town Ft. Hancock Texas, I had to use the rest stop rest room. deserted desert in the middle of nowhere kind of place right on the border of Mexico.
While in the restroom, two young illegals tried to carjack me, telling me they were taking my truck, give them the keys or they would kill me. Both were brandishing knives, so I pulled and pointed my gun right in the nearest guys face, about 6 or 7 feet away. Soon as the gun came out, both fled the rest room at high speed, ran back towards the border, which at that point was only about 200-300 yards away. I got back in my truck and finished going home. By 2015 we had moved to Texas to retire, and both my wife and I had got our Texas carry permits. Both of us carry NAA mini revolvers.
Both times I think the unexpected gun being pointed changed everything. They realized immediately they did not have an unarmed victim on their hands, and neither wanted to be shot with even a little gun. I went on about my life.
@@Jackknife1951 Got to save your life, you can always deal with the lawyers later, but still be breathing
Thanks for sharing the good bad the ugly. NAA AOK!!!!
I've carried the NAA 22LR for over 6 years now. Although I've yearned for a derringer, I've come to the conclusion that in a high stress situation where I would have to use my "firecracker", I don't trust 2 shots being enough. At close range, a 22LR is just as lethal as a larger caliber round, and 5 shots are definitely more lethal than 2.
I have lil' firecracker on me at all times, and my CW EDC is a Beretta Nano when I leave the house. Combined with my Victronix pocket knife, when asked once if I was armed, my response gave my questioner a shock.
"Heavily", I replied.
Better than a sharp word, when facing a hostile trespasser.
don't fire until you see the whites of his eyes (not a terrible aiming point, depending upon what needs to be done).
Drop 2 on him, and he'll remember that he left the stove on or something.
NO One likes to be shot, with ANYTHING.
I like both of them
I want the Bond Arms pistol chambered in. 500 S&W magnum, but with the same exact frame, handle, and grip as ^this one, and I can't think of any reasons why that chambering would be problematic..... 😁
I have both and I carry the NA arms all the time. I have the 4" Bond Arms in 45 and 410. Both are well built and never let me down.
I own both guns and I'm very impressed with both of them. The NAA revolvers are in a league of there own when it comes to concealment. When I ankle carry the NAA , it is so comfortable and lightweight that sometimes I forget that I have it concealed onto my ankle. The Bond Arms derringers are probably the best derringer ever made so far and there simplicity in operating and in upkeep is definitely a plus.
no ankle carry. bad news.
Bond arms at appendix, NAA at '4:30'.
They make a Mean Team!
@@RobRoyR8R
I sooooo agree !
I had a S&W in an ankle holster, and it was a premium name brand holster and it dumped my pristine S&W at the feet of a couple of uniformed police officers, good thing they knew me, I was plain clothes then, but I was razzed for months afterwards, I never ankle carried again.
@@carminemurray6624 Were you dancing and prancing around when it fell out like Joker was at the children's hospital?
I own the NAA smallest one they make. It’s about the size of my car keys, extremely easy to forget you’re carrying it. I’ve thought about getting Bond, as they have more stopping power, and because of the bigger format (grip) have better accuracy. I must admit I am impressed with your accuracy with the NAA .22, my range tests have been an eye opening realization that it is worthless if they are more than 5’ away from you. Your accuracy at 5 yards was impressive!
You'll need to practice more INSTICTIVE STYLE shoot'n, like Special Forces, trying to hold steady for accuracy on a target is tooo long of a focused strain to control hand, finger muscles on such a weapon for most ppl to again good accuracy. The instinctive style, just like snap shooting for fast grouse, woodcock in tight quarters, Whitetail being jumped, Bow or Gun hunting, you learn to just be more aware of your body's/arm, hand, etc location and firing when you feel yer on target. I've friends who were Seals, Spec Forces, from Nam into the 90's, and they say we train to be able to hit head shots WITHOUT LOOKING, OTHER THAN SOME PERIFERAL VISION " SOMETIMES! ", do some research and start practicing more, use an air BB pistol, airsoft, to save $, and it will come together for yeh, just RELAX N FEEL IT, our SUBCONSCIOUS brains actually know what exact time it is, where all parts of our bodies are in relationship to all around us at every second, yeh just have to make the effort to become more usefully connected to it.
Fighter Pilots " yes I've a few of them as old friends as well from A-6's -F-15's, 16's " and as the Spec Forces guys say, GET IN THE SLOT, ZONE, is what they call lucid, functional, DAYDREAMING, that's the connection to
accessing those abilities, so get in your zone, Ayeh
I have both and I love them. 🇺🇸⚓
The accuracy is hard because the grip is not very big. My 2" has a bigger grip and better sights. I have to concentrate much more on the little one.
I saw a previous video of hers showing the Bond Arms 357/38 cal. Impressed with her coverage I went to a sporting arms store and examined the Bond Arms 357/38 and a NAA 5 shot revolver 22mag and 22 cal swing out 5 shot cylinder. I was so impressed with them fit and finish that I purchased both. On the range practice with both shows differences in the trigger let off and hand hold recoil behavior. Result is both are excellent and impact where I aim it just takes a steady hand and about 10 rounds each to be consistent. Both of these are very well made, no junk here!
I have them both. I have the Bond Arms in 9mm since I have more 9mm than any other caliber, and in these times of ammo shortages, I don't want to have to hunt down more 45LC, 410 or 357. I also have two NAA mini-guns. One in 22LR and the other in 22mag. The NAA in 22mag is my daily backup carry gun. It fits nicely in a small pocket in my pants that is really supposed to be knife pocket. It's also great to have if I'm wearing shorts while working in the yard. I don't even notice it's there.
The NAA revolvers are true pocket jewelry. I own two of them (.22LR in the "regular" 1.125-inch, and a 2.5-inch Sheriff model in .22WMR), but I rarely carry either.
When things quiet down some, I would like a Bond just to have.
For me, pocket-carry is covered by my Kel-Tec P32, with a Seecamp .32 also available on standby. If I really want small, the Bauer .25 somewhere in my safe can come out to play, too. ;-)
EDIT: February, 2022, I'm really looking at the Bond Arms Cowboy Defender to supplement the "old-West"-type guns I've accumulated, including a Taylors Smoke Wagon, a SxS coach gun, and a Winchester lever gun.
The Kel-Tec P32 mentioned above as a pocket pistol, has largely been replaced by a Ruger LCP-MAX.
I bought a Ranger II you featured and love it. You can buy a .22 LR cylinder for these, by sending it to NAA for fitting. I did that and now I can shoot any size rimfire from .22 Magnum to .22 short. Love it, super high quality, excellent fit and finish. With the Ranger II, swapping cylinders only take a few seconds with nothing to take apart. Just slide one off and slide the other in, no other parts to remove. Sweet.
Those Bonds are a handful. I've had an NAA for decades though. Super concealable.
I use both! Three NAA Mini Revolvers, two .22 LR with 1 1/8" barrels which I carry as a pair, one .22 Magnum with 1 5/8" barrel, and two Bond derringers. One Stinger 9mm stainless and one .45 Colt/.410 2 1/2". Both rather powerful little chunks of steel. The derringer is the last word in putting a powerful caliber in a very small package. You cannot create the same size-to-power ratio in any other handgun type. Which is probably why they've remained very popular since the mid 19th century. And I'm especially fond of the old High Standard Derringer in .22 Magnum as well.
I I smiled when you said "up close and personal," because that is exactly what I tell my friends who question why I got one. There are times when my other CC guns are just too large to conceal in places, especially in warm weather. It's a piece I can carry in my pocket, (definitely need to wear a good belt), when I'm wearing shorts. I also often carry it in the car in case of car-jackers. I have a number of good 45 acp, 38, and 9mm guns, but I like to carry this baby in addition because it may be easier to pull it out of my pocket than to reach around and grab my larger CC pieces. There's no downside to this piece. Who can argue that a mini hand shot gun is handy. It's like being able to carry my Taurus Judge in my pocket. In the winter I load it with 45 Long Colt to make sure of good penetration if someone is wearing a heavy coat. Most of the time I load it with Winchester or Federal 410 "Defender" rounds. It's also good with bird shot if you're walking in areas where you are likely to come across a slithery critter. Again, there really is no downside. It's not my primary CC weapon, but I usually have it on me in addition to my 9mm.
Another option is always a good plan...zero downside having a backup...
Bond Arms. Texas Defender. 45/410. Interchangeable barrels. Tons of fun!
Both of these are great choices! I keep a NAA .22LR in my pocket loaded with the new Federal Personal Defense Punch Rimfire 22 LR... thankfully I'm not in bear country but if I was I'd be carrying a larger gun for sure!
I've had both the a bond arms in 9mm and the classic naa in .22lr and I have to say I absolutely love them both. I will say though the bond arms is much more comfortable/ natural in the hand. Plus the bonus of interchangeable barrels sure is nice. The naa sure is always a lot of fun too. Friends who've never seen one always get a kick out of it. Be aware if you've got big hands the classic naa can be a bit difficult to hold and will take some getting used to.
The problem with the bond arms is you can get a pocket 380 or small revolver in 357 thats the same size but with more rounds.
I got a keltec p32 for that reason. It's for the "I don't feel like carrying a gun today" so I grab the 32acp
With extra barrels you can always match calibers to your primary. Carrying a 9mm, change to 9mm barrel on the bond and share ammo. A .357 today, change to the .357 barrels. Carrying your judge for a woods walk, change to .45/410 barrels and have 2 more shotshells ready. Changeable barrels is why I finally bought my bond.
No, Kristin, I'm not interested in either the Bond or the NAA systems that you're reviewing today. I'm watching because this is a Kristen Alberts review. That's what makes it worth watching.
I had a little NAA in the 22 cal. I would carry it in my hard shell eye glasses case. It fit in there like it was made for it and no one knew it was a handgun. Every one who saw it thought it was the case for my glasses and it was but put to a different use. I sold it and got the NAA Earl in the 22 LR and 22 Magnum cylinders.
I own the Rowdy with a bunch of the Different caliber barrels and the 22mag NAA with the folding grips. I got the Rowdy on sale for $269 and It kindof defeated the purpose of a cheap gun to then go out and buy 7 barrels for like $1,200 dollars but I did it anyways! 🤷♂️ It’s cool to have a 2nd (or 3rd) pistol in all my pistol calibers backed up with a derringer. I got the grips with the clip for the NAA 22mag and keep that in my front pants pocket it looks like a knife. The folding grips take too long to deploy for self defense applications. Both are well made options and at least are good backups for your main CC pistols or together actually could be a decent little 7 shot combo. 🤷♂️👍🏻
Given the size I would prefer a J frame to a Bond Arms
@Ben Woodcock No but you can get 357 mag which is better than 45 colt.
A stainless S & W 637 Airweight in a 5 shot 38 +P.
@@scooterbob4432 I have the 637 as well and I agree. 5 shot of 38 JHP +P is way better than any of these pocket pistols.
In some of the South Asian developing countries..civilians who have privilage to own a fire arms for ccw, only have 2 options 22lr and .32 (Reason = gun control, so only the police have access to 9mm or higher). NAA 22lr is quite popular in South east asia, plus revolver have a lower taxes than a 22lr single stack pistols. Because civilian only can carry 5-10 bullets, they were thought to shoot carefully and sparingly to make shure to shoot if you really need to. Also my friend who owned a 22lr ccw said "22lr is enough to make the attacker rethink his life choices without hurting him too bad, while i call the police or ambulance".
I have an naa wasp and carry it a lot in shorts weather. Want to get a Bond Snake Slayer! Different applications but both high quality products!
The Bond Arms is sighted on the lower barrel. So depending on how you stage the barrels, remember the top barrel you need your POA slightly lower to the intended target location you want to strike. I love my Bond Arms Texas Defender.
Birdshot out of a Bond is only effective at point-blank range. Beyond 3 feet, you're just not going to get the effect you want. However, at 3 feet, you'll pattern their ENTIRE face with birdshot. It's going to be pretty hard to do anything when you don't have eyes...
I have the Bond 410 and the NAA 22 mag.... They're both awesome
Rough and Rowdy in 45 Long Colt and 2.5 410 shot shell would be my ultimate useful choice.
I also own both. I did see you have a slight twitch with the trigger on the bond arms, it does take a little getting use to but once you do it is great.
Don't have either but can see why a NAA might be nice to have. The Bond is well made I'm sure but at it's weight and size why would I not just carry a sub nose 38/357? I'd love to have a Bond in 357 or 45 but just don't see it as a good deep deep conceal. Bond will make my coat pocket sag just as much as a 5 shot sub nose.
The weight of the Bond tipped us to the NAA...the mission idea behind these guns is sensible, and toting 5 tiny ounces instead of 19+ is okay with us...
After seeing the bond arms in person i personal feel that for the size it would be more convenient and more firepower to carry something like a ruger lcp 2
The NAA 22LR with the pocket clip holster is great.
The NAA is more of a backup to the backup.....
Unless someone is seriously trying to hurt you and you’ve got one in your pocket I guarantee you it will do a dam site more than harsh language to get the bastards to stop or at least give you time to get out of harms way
Use a Kolibrie..
@@brittakriep2938 what the he\\is that some kind of new dildo or something
@@william38022 : One of the other commenters wrote, the small revolver is the backup for the backup. So for fun, i noted the Kolibri pistol. After the assasination of Austrian Empress Elisabeth in 1898 some austrian producers produced rather small automatic pistols, intended for the use of women, which had in those age been usually not seen as clients for firearms. The smallest of those pistols was the Kolbri, made by the watchmaker Franz Pfannl. It fired cartidges 2mm Kolibri ( about 0,05 "), totally useless for selfdefence, but the pistol worked. For more information, watch the episode of ,Forgotten Weapons' channel, in which Ian shows this pistol.
@@brittakriep2938 oh I see,,,I googled the name you wrote in your first comment and it showed hummingbirds with very long beaks.
I have been carrying the NAA 22 Mag with the folding grip for years. Anyone that thinks it isn't suited for self defense really doesn't understand the power it delivers. I have found it is more accurate if I don't use the sights. I aim along the side of the barrel. It made all the difference in accuracy. As for the Bond Arms...I didn't care for it. The grip is an odd shape that doesn't fit my hand, and I have larger than average hands. And unless they have re-engineered the trigger, you have to squeeze the very bottom tip. Pressing the middle of the trigger won't work. Just my two cents.
Rugers LCP Max is SUCH a better backup gun than the bond arms. 12 rounds of .380 acp, and the ability to quickly and easily reload if you carry an extra magazine. It's smaller, lighter, has night sights, laser capable, and it's only about 100 bucks more. It's honestly a no brainer. The bond arms Derringer is a fun little toy, but it's just not very practical.
If you wear 5 pocket jeans the Bond Arms Roughneck in 9mm fits nicely in the watch pocket. Leaving just the pistol grip exposed. Love mine.
He he ! Doesn't work for me. That's where my Zippo resides ... ;)
Bondarms rowdy has been my carry for over a year now and I couldn't be more happy.
While it's not quite as covert as naa, I love the bigger caliber, and the things built like a tank, I polished mine to a nice high shine because I'm not a fan of the brushed finish it comes in, it looks so cool
I have the NAA magnum I absolutely love it so easy to carry as a backup and I like the extra 5 rounds backing up my 7 shot 380 both small pocket guns
I also have the NAA .22 Magnum Mini. Perfect backup for my Taurus PT111 G2! CCI Magnum hollow points. I also have the extra cylinder that runs short, long, or LR. ;)
@@PhilG999 i have the same duo also and I know no gun is a toy but it's fun to plink with .22lr cylinder
Great video. Simple, down-to-earth and straightforward. Thank you!
You're welcome Arek.
I have the North American arms with interchangeable cylinders 22 Long rifle/22 Magnum I carry critical defense Hornady 22 Magnum in it right now with hogue grips it’s not a break top or anything like that however it’s actually a nice little gun I also have the Smith and Wesson PD 351 DOA in 22 Magnum it’s very light weight i’ve never tried one of those bonds knowing me I’d have to have one in every chamber they produced it in just so I can decide which one I like best
Had a NAA sold it, didn't care for taking the cylinder out to reload. I have two bonds and admittedly I hate the triggers, but reloading them is a snap. My .45 ACP is stout to shoot, so Liberty Civil Defense rounds are the way to go as 230Gr is too much in my opinion on the palm.
The newer NAA versions offer a swing out cylinder similar to traditional revolvers. Much simpler and faster to reload than the original versions where you have to remove the cylinder and hopefully not drop it in the dirt to reload.
Two Bonds still doesn't give you the round count the one NAA you had did, though. ;-)
it's kind of a pain but I dont use mine for target practice so I never have to reload unless I decide to take it apart just so I remember how to do it. I dont see me in an extended gun battle with it and needing to quickly reload. I dont carry extra ammo anyway.
I own both guns and I like them, alot!! I will say though, (this is not a negative comment), you must be very sure the "safety" is done correctly after using the NAA. I let a friend shoot mine, he reloaded it and handed it back to me with the hammer resting on a shell, instead of the slot...so glad I checked!! I have the Black Widow 22magnum, and keep it clipped to my about the house shorts I most always wear...never not be armed!
Such great down-to-earth Videos you make. Thanks so much for the good info
Our pleasure!
I think the NAA with any option around 2” barrel is good. Very lightweight and concealable. Bond Arms 45/410 is a good option for bear country in my opinion. That said, live in NJ. Deer country lol.
My condolences on living in NJ. Feel free to join us in one of the free States.
I second the condolences on living in NJ. I was born in NJ and grew up in Montgomery County MD, both liberal shitholes. Thankfully, I immigrated to Texas fifty years ago and don't intend to ever leave. We get Constitutional carry Sept. 1st.
I’ve had both, I prefer the NAA, over the Bond.. the Bond is an Acquired taste..
How so? I’d imagine that the choice of caliber makes a big difference.
@@hardinmichael1981 for us it is the weight and concealability of the NAA vs the Bond...the Bonds are extremely sturdy, but for their size and weight there are other options...haven't seen anything smaller and lighter than the NAA...caliber at arm's length doesn't matter much, even less if stuck in the ear or up the nose...
@@PetuniaIii-pd1ww that makes absolute sense. Thanks
I had an NAA and it was built well but I didn`t like the lack of trigger guard and ease of use. I`d go with the new Bond Stinger in .380.
I carry a NAA .22 magnum every day with high velocity hollow point ammunition. If I'm out of the house, it's in my pocket. It's well made and the .22 mag is not something I'd want shot with.
I have both and love them both
I prefer my NAA 1860 Sherrif 22m over my Bond Arms Roughneck in 357Sig any day.
I have both, but when small size deep concealment is needed, I prefer my Beretta 950's, 9 rounds that can be fired in an instant with the single action trigger is superior to my NAA's IMO. The Bond is big and heavy, but useful when you need something somewhat compact that can produce a relatively big wallop due to the calibers available. Both wonderful firearms that in addition to functionality give you the extra benefit of ownership that comes from something that's so solid and well made.
I have a Bond Arms Rowdy. The grips broke after 12 shots, the trigger pull is brutal and it won't fire any cowboy action ammo. It will fire Hornady and .410. I just wish I hadn't bought it. I already have a S&W 637.
What was the trigger pull on the Bond over/under... Is this trigger mechanism adjustable? I wonder if you can mount a small laser to the side. I own a couple 22lc derringers...accurate...not really...4 feet from a post, I am lucky to hit it.
Truly enjoy your videos... cheers
I carry bond 9mm stinger while jogging 12oz is great
We looked at both real hard before going with the NAA .22lr...it is simply much more concealable, and is a hoot to shoot-regular practice a must with the gun...we don't carry it often, but there are those times either it or nothing...at 5 feet it could save the day, hopefully never to come...
I like both, but the bond arms is a sturdy gun.
I own 4 2xNAA and 2xBond. I have a Bond 44spl it has less free bore. I also have the 45/410 there is less spread on 000 buckshot from 410 it is more centered. My oldest NAA is a 1" 22LR, newest is a Black Widow converitable 22LR 22mag 2". The Black Widow has better grips and sights.
Please people, don't think that a 2 round gun will keep you safe from an angry bear,
Aim for the Balls🤪🤣
@thrash, clang & bang The issue is do the two rounds stop it before it maims or kills you?
@thrash, clang & bang The issue is whether two rounds fired from such a short barrel (therefore having low muzzle velocity) will stop the bear prior to its killing or maiming you. Animals do not attack to steal your cell phone or wallet. They attack because 1) you startled them or scared them which infers that you are close to them 2) they feel you are threatening them or their young which means they will be determined and not "scared away" 3) they consider you prey and intend to devour you. There are numerous accounts (not just legends or stories) of dead grizzly bears found with a bullet in the brain or heart from which the bear died - after it had killed the shooter. If you are in range of one of these 'baby backups', you are too close. That being said, there is nothing wrong with a 'back-up' and it is better than a short stick. Just don't forget it is a back-up and don't be complacent because you are protected by that 'backup'.
@thrash, clang & bang Not really. I just made a comment that is accurate the vast majority of the time. I made the comment because the video mentioned the small guns as self protection in bear country. I didn't throw shade on anyone. My comment was a caution. I didn't even attack the video in my initial comment. I agree with you that primary guns can fail, which is why I said "there is nothing wrong with a backup..." and I urged people not to be complacent. Avoid the bears. Marvel at their awesomeness from a safe distance. If it makes me intense to caution people against a false sense of security, so be it.
NO! These are fun range guns, for plinking, that said I’d NEVER want to rely on one of either of these. And for crying out loud the price on these aren’t cheap. You could buy a very nice 5 or 6 round .38 special for the cost if one of these.I don’t know if any of you have any experience with the Taurus 856 Defenders, but for the money, these are a FANTASTIC Choice! I can’t stop shouting the praises of these. Just saying, Again these are fun to plink with, but I would never want to rely on o e of these.
Our NAA is rarely carried, but it really can be concealed anywhere...these guns are not ideal EDC guns, but either one can ruin a bad guy's day...we sometimes carry an 856, ours an older model not rated +p...any gun in a pocket always beats the one left in the safe...
Both weapons demand extensive practice if you plan to defend your life with either one. I have an NAA .22 WMR and recently acquired a Bond Arms Derringer with 2 barrels. One 2" 38 spcl. and one 6" 45 Long Colt. At really close range a 38 spcl. is plenty powerful. The 6" barrel isn't really concealable but is effective for shooting varmints on the farm.
Totally agree about regular practice...we own a NAA .22lr that goes to the range every visit...we don't normally shoot more than 10-15 rounds through it, but done weekly much more effective than 50 rounds every couple of months...
I like small guns. I've got cancer and I'm light weight. My subcompacts are VISIBLE in my pocket. You can tell I'm carrying it. The NAA mini isn't visible. Most defensive shootings will be within arm's reach, so you don't really need to aim. NAA mini is the best deep concealment gun, for sure. Affordable.
I've owned both. Had a Bond Arms Snakeslayer and although I loved the look and the build, it just wasn't very accurate, nor was it the same placement barrel to barrel. I now have the NAA Black Widow. Much more accurate. I'm much happier with the NAA.
I’ve got one each and love them both. Great made guns and perfect for the boat trip out in the swamps fishing
Personally I think it all depends upon what you feel is best for you. Some people prefer quantity over capacity and vice versa. However if it was me carrying like when I go for my license I would a have my bigger primary weapon off body carry in my shoulder bag. the 410/45 Dillinger appendix carry.and the 22 in my jacket pocket cuz my hands are always in my jacket pocket anyway. Or 22 on my ankle and 410/45 in my jacket pocket. But again it all depends on how you feel and what's best for you.
Thank You Ma'am!!!
You're right!!! ...So I have a Ranger II and a Patriot .45 Colt/.410 and I love them both 🇺🇸⚓
I LOVE my Bond Arms "Grizzly" chambered in .45 Colt/ .410!!! The NAA .22 mag is also a great weapon!!! But I lobe the BIG BORE Weapons 😁
The main reason I believe in carrying a NAA 22mag 'Get Off Me Gun' as a main CCW is just that! It will enforce you to engage ONLY if I have to! If a perp is on top of me about to take my life, the courts will have no doubt the firearm was used in self defense. In this day and age, any other way the gun is used in self defense is unfortunately too risky in court in my opinion.
Great for aggressive dogs, too.
I really don’t understand the point of the bond arms. There are magazine guns and revolvers about the same size which shoot the same caliber and have more ammo and are about the same size or smaller. At least with the NAA guns they are super small.
Some things just don't need a "point" because, well, 'Murica.. right? ;-)
The Bond Arms Derringer with only 2 shots is way too heavy for practical use relative to many multi-shot small arms available. The NAA in 22 Mag is well worth having in your jacket pocket heading for a dark parking lot, and has 5 shots! Anyway, those 2 shot derringers are mostly for those who just think they're "cool". Any of these weapons are for EXTREMELY close quarters. As I said, decent parking lot guns. As for that birdshot, you could blind the perp and then beat him into submission!
Those are for dueling
Good comparison. I'm going to go with the bond arms in 9mm
have carried 35 yrs NAA
The best one is the one in your hand when you need it
I wear my naa 22lr pistol in the skeleton belt buckle every day.
I forget it's there sometimes. And the 22short fits in my coin pocket
Don't forget the small blackpowder revolver . It goes from cap n ball to 32 cal shell.
I think I would rather carry an Airweight J-Frame than a Bond Arms Derringer. Lighter, 5 rounds, and it seems less bulky.
Nothing against Bond Arms. I know they are top quality and fill certain niches very well, but I'm still a bit confused.
That said, I would be happy to have a Bond Arms Derringer loaded with .45acp shotshells for snake protection.
The NAA black widow I was able to get 22lr in a 8" daim at 25 yards. Thats respectful with a 2" barrel.
I'm not too crazy about the rubber grip on the Bond Arms for an actual pocket gun. But I do like them both and both get the job done.
Why not? Rubber makes better traction!
@@anthony8385 Better traction makes for gun getting stuck in pocket.
@@tr5398 ah, i get it. I always carry mine in a holster on my belt.
DeSantis makes an excellent North American arms mini revolver holster that I carry mine in sometimes,,, you have to know how to use the safety notch in those NAA cylinders or you will have an accidental discharge no question about it,,,if you don’t know how you need to talk to an authority a gunsmith maybe,,,,, once you figure that out then you’re all set,,, that DeSantis has an elastic band that keeps the hammer pull down into the safety notch if you think you’re in harms way you can reach in your pocket and undo that band fairly easily,,, a little practice is all it takes it’s also got a pouch for five additional 22 Magnum rounds I also have a custom-made leather holster I can wear with a cord around my neck it’s designed for the gun to come out easy from the bottom and there’s times when I’m out mowing grass on the tractor or maybe taking a ride on my scooter that little North American arms goes right in my front shirt pocket and you’ll never know it’s there👍
I got me a NAA Black Widow Convertible in 22Mag / 22LR, AND CAN POP BALLOONS easy at 50 yards all day long. Plus you can buy 22Mag snake shot all day long, a head will pop eyeballs easy as pie. Additionally I've owned a Derringer DA38 iw 9mm, I couldn't hit the side of a barn close up, seriously, and traded it. The Black Widow is an excellent option to me, so small, you can forget you have it, a cell phone is way bigger, so I vote for the NAA, so small & accurate and fun & cheap to shoot often.
I've had both of these guns. I prefer the North American Arms how's that gun always in my front pocket. Seldom am I in Bear Country in the Bond Arms is a extremely heavy gun. I had the Snake Slayer and it just didn't seem practical for me.
And the North American Arms I carried the 22 Magnum for a while but every now and then I like to pull my gun out and just shoot it. That 22 magnum is as loud as my 357 Magnum. I just curious 22 long rifle what's a c v grip. I still might grab another 22 magnum someday. It's hard to say which one I would rather carry but the 22 long rifle is never in the way.
I feel like trusting the Bond Arms more since you can get it in good self defence cartridges. Yeah, it has 3 less shots but I rather have 2 shots of .45LC or .357Mag than 5 shots of .22Mag. .22Mag is great, and has way more stopping power then a .22LR but I don't trust rimfire for self defense.
Most people do not like derringers but they'll carry a snub nose revolver, with like a 1"½ - 2" barrel, to me it's basically the same thing the only difference is the grips, I like derringer for the nostalgic, but that's out it.
I have a Bond Arms Roughneck in .45 ACP and it can be a handful. Agree something like the 185 gr JHP (I use Remington Bonded JHP) however it shoots the 230 gr rounds well too. If you have business where you may have to leave them locked up....easier to replace than a $400 - $700 revolver or semi-auto. For me I find that 2 shots of .45 ACP is nothing to scoff at or ignore. And speed loaders can be used with practice. I would like though to have a NAA .22 mag. Correct if I am wrong, but I believe when loaded do you carry it in the notches between the bullet chambers??? Thanks and appreciate the video and info.
Thanks! Love the Bond Arms Texas Defender in .357!!
Senhora Kristin Alberts parabéns pelo seu vídeo, bem completo, detalhado e explicativo. Saúde e sucesso !
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Not ready for “anything” with these, but I did enjoy your video 😊
Was hoping you would pick one over the other!!! the NAA has concealment over the Bond Arms..
Getting the NAA in .22 mag, have a snub .44 that’s about the same size as the Bond Arms
Thanks for the video on two cool pistols ❤
There are special 410 rounds for hand gun defense. One has 410 bullet and shot. Others various buckshot loads. Bird shot is close range snake shot.
I've gotta go with naa revolvers also and wouldn't be so quick to write off that ohhh it's 22 mag most fatalities have been from 22 cal
With the 1 5/8 barrel a .22 mag is near .32 acp ballistics with good ammo.
I love naa I've collected them for years and have to admit I want a bond arms BUT you can get a 12rd or 8rd 9mm for close to the same size and possibly lighter than the bond arms. Yes 44 mag is a big round but in bear country I'll take more rounds than 2
I really wish that one of my American cousins would buy and send one hey two of these please
Good information ma'am 👍🏽. I've just got 2 Bond Arms . A grizzly 3" in .45 colt/.410 & Snake Slayer IV 4.25" same Caliber. I've never seen the other handgun fired it does look interesting. Thank you for showing us both.
NAA for me
Correct. Both like all guns are mission sensitive. Both are back up at different power levels. Have considered the Bond arms, but since I'm always carrying a bigger gun with more capacity, it's hard for me to justify. Therefore for my needs I went NAA. It fits a watch pocket, or panama pants, sweat pants pocket. I can take it places I'm not supposed to discreetly too. It also doesn't create much collateral damage in close quarters, like terminating a predator at close range middle of the night wedged in an egg box of a coop full of frightened hens. It's also very loud for a small gun, and has served to stop aggressive dogs with it's bark. LOL
Not bad little pistols.
I have them, but find the LCP is better!
The biggest is the American Derringer it comes with up to 8" barrels.
I liked this demo. I have the BA mini 45, have never considered an NAA, but may now.
I really really love that piston pocket since I was I child now I have a family I still wishing have to a 9mm piston pocket.
I have a Panzer 2 barrel 22LR cal derringer. I also have 14 rounds of 22 cal shot shells. I also have 99 rounds left in a box of Remington 22LR Golden Bullets. I used 1 to shoot a possum tearing up a bag of trash in our garbage can. It ran off and probably died somewhere else.
I like the Bond Arms "Papa Bear" in 45 / 410. It's awesome.