Don't you love it when you come back from work on Friday after a long week and find a loopop video about a successor to one of the coolest device on the market ? Thank you Sir!
No, this is great gear! You should see the King Korg Neo comments tho... they could send Audiopilz a beta unit, due to the comments from just the intro videos🤣
I am beyond excited to see what the creative and skilled developers will come up with on this one 😊 The algorithms for the MK1 were incredible already imho. For such an affordable machine.
I’m loving all the minis being released! I like to have SOMETHING to show from every paycheck, it was POs, then Arias, now the m2, kaos pad mini, and NTS-3. How fun is this!
For the price tag, it is such a great unit. And it's an original design, unless most boxes these days that just mimic classic designs. Korg really did nail it again imho. No need to ask for any other features. That SDK is genius. I mean, which of the big guys really did something like that before? Roland, Yamaha, Moog? None.
Cool, I loved the original ..I put large knobs and a full case, also a external on off switch on the power wire.. Hooked up to say a midi keyboard like the Arturia key step or Akai Mpk series it's just stunning.. Great vid..
Great video as always. I REALLY wish they had added battery-power to this version! Solving for those pesky noises has been a headache in the original (getting a shielded cable, separate power brick, etc, etc...)
I love my MK1, especially with the Sinevibes stuff (Dense is amazing). Due to the CPU limitations it's been largely relegated to being used as an FX insert, so I'll be interested to see if the MK2 can happily run a Sinevibes oscillator, plus the chorus, tape delay and subnatural verb. On the MK1 it can do 2 effects only before giving up and outputing noise. The other MK1 pain point (micro-usb - so hard to get quality cables) has been addressed, so I'll probably pick one up as soon as they appear locally.
Yeah, I can happily run 3 of the default FX at once, but not at the same time as a Sinevibes Dense oscillator. If the MK2 can do that, I'll definitely upgrade both my MK1s.
What does Korg have against sequencers? Volcas have 16 steps which kinda ruined them and Korg decides to chop this in half to 8? Why? Just don´t get it. It´s not like they have a solid product to sequence things as the SQ-64 is full of problems and they have already abandoned that. King Korg - No sequencer, Microkorg 2 - No sequencer, Modwave - Broken sequencer. All of these products are an instabuy for me if they had proper 64 step seqencers with banks. Sold my XD after a couple fo weeks because I couldn´t get over the fact of the gimped sequencer.
Wow finally! Just got my second NTS-1 this week and I can't believe we'll have a mark two now😮 I feel so freakin excited thanks Korg! Filters also for external audio this time?! Would be a dream
@@I.O.M. 🤣🤣 Glad to meet you here buddy! Why only a quartet?! What about a NTS-1 orchestra?! I saw a video with about 15 Korg Volca Keys playing at the same time a thing like that! 😌👍
Loving all the cool stuff Korg's coming out for NAMM this year and great overview of the new instruments! For those who have the original NTS-1 but are missing that new noise oscilator, I built a more basic free/donation based one you can use here: ua-cam.com/video/9R3mLR4aC5o/v-deo.html It's on Korg's official logue sdk unit index too so you know it meets their standards! Enjoy and can't wait to see what people come up with using these new NTS's!
Great update! Loving the midi out as well as all ports on the back. Not sure whether it’s worth an upgrade at this point. The distortion effects do look kinda cool, but the Mk1 is still a pretty stellar FX box as is!
@@PANTA-Music Yeah, I have a main switch for my entire setup, so units without on/off button are just always on. I think, sleep mode can be turned off, which I should maybe do.
@@asbjrnandersen4222 I turned it off. I didn't want to switch it on or off though. Because it is a pain in the *ss to have the Korg connected to the PC and it not being recognised by the software... Another downside of the NTS. Hope the MK2 doesn't have this connectivity issue.
Let’s hope for a Prologue MK2 with velocity sensitive keybed, more LFOs, more envelopes and a modulation matrix. If they can pull that off without raising the price too much compared to the current prologue 8 and 16 they would have a winner in their hands.
As critical as I was regarding the « new » KingKorg, I have to say Korg did a GREAT job on this synth update. Many improvements!! Not sure what the price will be, and that might be a factor, but in any case, at least it’s a great improvement and worth considering, for those who like and use the NTS-1 mk1 (like me… I own 3). So: Good job Korg! Now apply this update philosophy to the next KingKorg please.
@@TooSlowTube I've compared prices for Thomann over and over and it always end up more expensive, when you factor in shipping and customs. I'm in Canada, so I shop at places like Cosmo and LongMcQuade, and have always been happy. You also have to consider warranty... some products bought outside of your country will not have warranty, depending on maker (had bad experience shopping at Sweetwater with that. No more for me). The only advantage I found at Thomann is availability: when a product is sold out everywhere, they sometimes have it. Especially true for Behringer.
@@SynthOSphere Thomann have their own warranty, or did the last time I checked. Their customer services do tend to answer if you want to ask them. The best choices depend on where you live, certainly. They're never my first choice but they're usually an option.
Nice! For me the main flaw of mk1 is that you cannot adjust volume of the NTS-1 synth engine and aux input separately. That means that if you connect for example a Microfreak (which has low output volume) to the input of NTS-1 (to get effects) the NTS-1 internal synth will be so much louder than the Microfreak. It is possible to attenuate the input (microfreak in this example), but not the internal NTS-1 synth sound. Has this been fixed in mk2?
The biggest issue I have with the NTS 1 is that it doesn't remember your settings... if you turn it off, you have to start over setting everything up the next time you use it. That's a major pain for any device that relies on menu-diving
I had multiple mk1 units where the headphone jack solder points peeled off the board, hopefully they fixed that this time around. If not then the first thing you need to add a step during assembly where you reinforce the jacks with ropy gobs of hot glue.
I love cheap gear and all the limitations that accompany them. Forces creativity. I ordered a Liven Lo-fi 12 not bc it was cheap but bc it has only 4 second sample time at 12 bits. It's like how people used to use the Casio sk 5 or the rz1 which had even shorter sample time.
Would’ve expected at least 3 or 4 voices of polyphony for a mk2 tbh. Running midi into and playing chords would be nice. I know people made custom chord oscillators but those have their own limitations especially with how they handle midi.
The unit supports polyphonic midi notes unlike previous model. now you can make polyphonic oscillators, but the default are monophonic. Its only matter of time to see polyphonic oscillators
That’s probably coming, and like he said, even if it doesn’t come pre-packaged with a polyphonic synth it’s only a matter of time before the fanbase develops one!
Too bad they didn’t use this update to add a mono in option , it makes an excellent effects box , but if you have a mono out synth you have to go through a passive guitar pedal or adapter that does mono to stereo. Bummer. Love the Sinevibes algos , especially droplets , I wonder if we will get an upgrade price because I don’t fancy buying them all again for the mk 2 tbh. Other than that I love the Nts , I wish they did a stand alone unit with proper I/0 and a bigger prebuilt size , like a pro version, I really like this platform.
I don't get your mono part? When I hook up a mono synth to my NTS-1, I recieve stereo out? Used for, for example Ping Pong delay, Chorus, etc. I don't need passive pedals or anything in between to make it stereo.
Not sure to understand if this is actually capable of polyphony if someone makes a poly OSC for it. Or is it just the built in keyboard so only for controlling other synths with polyphony through the MIDI output ?
Already pre-ordered on sweetwater, a quick look looks like they didn't fix my biggest peeve though with the original is all the connectors can easily be broken which I did to an audio jack, thankfully their warranty gave me a new one. Wondering if you can upload more effects and OSCs than the original which would be really cool if you could -- memory is cheap so that would be an easy change.
Damn you Korg. Mine broke too, and Korg played hide and seek. I eventually soldered a new cable on the mainboard. Now MIDI in broke and sync in also is breaking. Had to hot glue the entire thing shut to prevent another connector breaking. I hear some people getting warranty and others being ignored.
@@loopop Hooray! Hopefully it's not much more expensive than the MK1, seems like every new release costs more than the last. Did you mention price in the video I maybe missed it.
I hope Korg has finally implemented MIDI CCs in the MK2 for controlling the custom parameters (Osc+Type) and values (B) of user oscillators. This was a major drawback in the MK1.
I wonder if there will be a version with only the effects and probably the filter, with a lower price as well. I'm sure most people use these things purely for the cool effects for their other synths, rather than a sound generator haha.
Holy hel finally - just starting the video, and some comments have me a bit nervous (this better not lose its FX capabilities) & hope it isn't $200+... but word!
Hi. I have connected Nts midi IN, and in minilogue OUT, the same channel, type A cable. And the minilogue keyboard does not receive sound from Nts... What could be wrong? 🙏
Connected my NTS-1 Mk.II's MIDI Out (via Type-A TRS adapter + DIN cable) to Input PORT of MidiFace 4x4 interface. My DAW (FLStudio) then reports Keyboard Note-on and Rotary Control Changes on the NTS-1. For some reason, I imagined the MIDI Out socket might transmit MIDI *through* data, from the MIDI input Socket... But No? It does allow the NTS-1 to act as a (limited) MIDI controller?!? The MIDI Input socket on the NTS-1 does work as I would have expected though... 😸
I grabbed the frame at 13:45 and it looks like the connectors have at least one pin (in rear - possibly two more in front) going through the pcb. IIRC the MK1 were completely surface mount. If there are several pins going through the pcb, the connector would be much more robust. ps Just saw a pic of the other side of the pcb and it does look like there are thru hole tabs for the connectors - will have to wait for a unit...
Hi. I can't connect nts1 mkII to minilogue XD via midi. Connected via adaptor,nts1- IN, XD-OUT, same channel and nothing. You need to set something else in nts1 in addition to the channel???
Nice iv got the o.g nts1 so gonna have to get this it sounds like it sounds better and the keyboard looks much better and has a sequencer ..and noise generator It's a power house especially for sound design
@@ildarkinildarkin - you said you bought a Sample 2 hoping there’d be more features. Find out the features before you buy, simple and avoids disappointment. I had the first version for a while, the slightly low sample quality makes percussion sound really nice.
This is great, and addresses all but one of my reservations about the original. The one thing they missed out? Saving presets. For the sake of an EEPROM that would've added a few cents to the BOM, this seems like such a weird omission.
@@MrTanukiD yeah, I'm not a fan of using external power banks personally, immediately makes a piece of gear much less portable. Something this small should easily be able to run off of a couple of AAA batteries
I don't think this has any cv/gate inputs. Only asking because it would be quite cool addition to a small eurorack rig, to add an oscillator, digital filter and I guess FX unit. But I guess only way to do that would be trigger it from another device with MIDI and I/O, like MPC One or Oxi One etc ...
Oooh, i am looking forward to thus new NYS1! But.... can the filter ne applied to the external audio signal? It was the biggest con for me on the original that it came later in the signal path.
Attempting to use the original with the Circuit Tracks ws very frustrating because the output volume was very low even at max. Has the output level been increased?
They do very different things? This is essentially a platform for different types of synthesis and effects. If you don't mind that it's digital, it's quite a bit more powerful. While I'd rather use a vst for digital sounds I can see using this a an affordable multifx box. That alone is something the volcas aren't going to get you far with
Thanks for this review. I have the original NTS-1 and I really like it. Too bad about the lack of SDK backwards compatibility. Yet, the little sequencer might be something that I'd consider exploring an upgrade down the road. Cheers!✌
hi Loolop, if placed as the second device of a midi chain does it correctly send the clock received from the first to the third device? in the global parameters under sync midi source I only find internal/auto (no external) and there is no specific option such as midi clock sync out. I also have the same doubt about seq sync start/stop Thank you
More advanced SDK ? But is it still compatible with the older NTS/Logue multiengine SDK plugins ? Or isn’t it already a vocoder actually ? What happens if we connect a microphone as modulator ? I hope they are easy to port and companies like Sinevibes will provide ported updates to current version owners 🙏
Does the internal board look more robust than the OG? It was ridiculously easy to break a surface mount jack's foot off the internal board with just slightly too much force, or just using the audio in jack one too many times.
@@pauldablue sadly, the XD doesn't have the audio-in, which is one of the best things about the NTS-1. The trick for the NTS-1 would be to get a little 3.5mm stereo extension, then plug stuff into that to minimize wear-and-tear. One can also hack the NTS-1, adding a tougher stereo input jack soldered to the mainboard connections that replicate the capabilities of the weak little surface mounts. 😃
Were any of the firmware requests looked into by Korg?
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BPM sync for the delay ALONE makes this a good buy! I think of my original NTS-1 as a nice FX box for my Arturia Microbrute, with a bonus mono synth, but it was sorely lacking the ability to sync its delay times to MIDI tempo. The cheapest delay pedal I could find with this feature was a used Boss DD-200 and that probably still cost about the same as what the MKII will list for. For my needs, I'm now wondering if I should sell the MK1 and the DD-200, buy this and regain some desk space.
There is a logue custom delay available called BPM delay which works for the NTS. Makes me wonder why no more delays were made with BPM settings.
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@@PANTA-Music Yeah, I installed that as soon as I realized the stock delays didn’t sync and I couldn’t get it to sound any good. Must have been a challenge to write that with the old SDK?
Some noobish questions. Has anyone recommend the proper cables for putting other gear on 1/4 ? Does routing the output through an audio interface improvd the sound quality? Not very jmpressed by the sounds so far with the headphones straight in. Anyone used this on a track that I could reference.
Thanks. I missed some competitor names in the "pros and cons" section. I am currently using the NTS1 mostly as effects unit (after my synth). Is there a good alternative that is more sturdy? zoom ms70? Although it also has quite some menu diving ... Anything else some of you are happy with?
you're welcome. pros and cons are always against the competition, sometimes I name specific names, sometimes not - for example here when there are so many multi effects options, but yes zoom effects in general would certainly be included
Breaking news! Check out my Phase Looping plugin for the NTS-1 MK2 and logue platform here!
► bit.ly/PhaseLoopop
I'm so happy to see all the ports on the back now. That front audio out always made it tricky to fit into a larger setup.
Don't you love it when you come back from work on Friday after a long week and find a loopop video about a successor to one of the coolest device on the market ?
Thank you Sir!
🙌🏻🙏🏻
Sounds really good. People today sure have a lot of great synths for little money compared to when I started.
Happy to see that you went full-on Peter Gunn too;)
Transposable 8-step melodies to the rescue! And good to see you here :)
you'll be liking this time of the year, at least 3-4 "straight to BadGear" releases just this week
@AudioPilz do your thing!
Coming soon to a Bad Gear episode! @AudioPilz
No, this is great gear! You should see the King Korg Neo comments tho... they could send Audiopilz a beta unit, due to the comments from just the intro videos🤣
It's funny how some of the cheapest gear sitting right in front of us, can reward us the most.
Great upload Ziv.
I almost bought an NTS-1. Glad I waited and will instead save up for this when it comes out.
Awesome video
you definitely lucked out. however - only saved $99 (or so). it's not like you almost bought a Moog One - lol
@@flyddw A hundred dollars in my world might as well be a Moog One LOL, but yeah that's certainly true.
A second day of seeing Loopop sitting right next to Bobeats in my subscriptions :). Good stuff!
The killer feature of the NTS-1 is as a multi-fx unit for other gear. The synth is fun, but the FX for other gear is where it's at.
That's all I use it for. I have oscillators for drone use (including the actual drone one), but mostly it's just for FX on the go for me.
It is a very competent FX box. But I am also in love with its filter, especially using the Volca Bass custom OSC.
Exactly .
I am beyond excited to see what the creative and skilled developers will come up with on this one 😊 The algorithms for the MK1 were incredible already imho. For such an affordable machine.
Can you use it as an external filter unit?? Like the monotron but with a much cleaner signal?
I’m loving all the minis being released! I like to have SOMETHING to show from every paycheck, it was POs, then Arias, now the m2, kaos pad mini, and NTS-3. How fun is this!
IMO this is a better re-incarnation of an older synth than kingkorg Neo is.
I guess this year is the year everything comes out. Sweet.
Gear season is crazy rnn
For the price tag, it is such a great unit. And it's an original design, unless most boxes these days that just mimic classic designs. Korg really did nail it again imho. No need to ask for any other features. That SDK is genius. I mean, which of the big guys really did something like that before? Roland, Yamaha, Moog? None.
Cool, I loved the original ..I put large knobs and a full case, also a external on off switch on the power wire..
Hooked up to say a midi keyboard like the Arturia key step or Akai Mpk series it's just stunning..
Great vid..
Another great overview. That external audio cross mod is a very interesting feature.
Great video as always. I REALLY wish they had added battery-power to this version! Solving for those pesky noises has been a headache in the original (getting a shielded cable, separate power brick, etc, etc...)
I love my MK1, especially with the Sinevibes stuff (Dense is amazing). Due to the CPU limitations it's been largely relegated to being used as an FX insert, so I'll be interested to see if the MK2 can happily run a Sinevibes oscillator, plus the chorus, tape delay and subnatural verb. On the MK1 it can do 2 effects only before giving up and outputing noise.
The other MK1 pain point (micro-usb - so hard to get quality cables) has been addressed, so I'll probably pick one up as soon as they appear locally.
I’ll be waiting for Sinevibes to update his stuff before I jump in.
I've run 3 FX at once, often. it depends which ones you go for.
Yeah, I can happily run 3 of the default FX at once, but not at the same time as a Sinevibes Dense oscillator. If the MK2 can do that, I'll definitely upgrade both my MK1s.
What does Korg have against sequencers? Volcas have 16 steps which kinda ruined them and Korg decides to chop this in half to 8? Why? Just don´t get it. It´s not like they have a solid product to sequence things as the SQ-64 is full of problems and they have already abandoned that.
King Korg - No sequencer, Microkorg 2 - No sequencer, Modwave - Broken sequencer. All of these products are an instabuy for me if they had proper 64 step seqencers with banks.
Sold my XD after a couple fo weeks because I couldn´t get over the fact of the gimped sequencer.
Very cool. All these mk II's and new versions of old korg gear make me wonder if we're going to see a prologue II drop soon.
What's wrong with the first one?
I am a fan, it's a great synth. I just wish it had more modulation options and after-touch.
@@jocee2257 It's not available anymore afaik.
@@coconutlust470 oh it definitely needs an update then, with the same keybed as their keystage midi keyboards
Wow finally!
Just got my second NTS-1 this week and I can't believe we'll have a mark two now😮
I feel so freakin excited thanks Korg!
Filters also for external audio this time?! Would be a dream
I think you need at least 2 to have a quartet 😁
@@I.O.M. 🤣🤣 Glad to meet you here buddy!
Why only a quartet?! What about a NTS-1 orchestra?!
I saw a video with about 15 Korg Volca Keys playing at the same time a thing like that! 😌👍
@@hellf.o I really want to see the NTS-3 demo.
@@I.O.M. Me too!
I'm interested in NTS-3 much more than NTS-1 MK2 cause it's almost the same to the old one working with plug ins..
Can't wait!
Duuuuude I was just about to buy a second one, I’m so glad i waited! I hope this one’s not too much more than the o.g.
Delighted with tempo sync for the delays!
Loving all the cool stuff Korg's coming out for NAMM this year and great overview of the new instruments! For those who have the original NTS-1 but are missing that new noise oscilator, I built a more basic free/donation based one you can use here:
ua-cam.com/video/9R3mLR4aC5o/v-deo.html
It's on Korg's official logue sdk unit index too so you know it meets their standards! Enjoy and can't wait to see what people come up with using these new NTS's!
I will stick to Jt-4000. When I put NTS-1 next to jt-4000 korg device look like synth from Wish or Temu.
Great update! Loving the midi out as well as all ports on the back. Not sure whether it’s worth an upgrade at this point. The distortion effects do look kinda cool, but the Mk1 is still a pretty stellar FX box as is!
It has an on/off button now? Nice 😊
No more sleep mode, or having to physically remove usb cable...
@@PANTA-Music
Yeah, I have a main switch for my entire setup, so units without on/off button are just always on.
I think, sleep mode can be turned off, which I should maybe do.
@@asbjrnandersen4222 I turned it off. I didn't want to switch it on or off though. Because it is a pain in the *ss to have the Korg connected to the PC and it not being recognised by the software... Another downside of the NTS. Hope the MK2 doesn't have this connectivity issue.
Amazing synth IF there will be vst editor. Thanks for your video review, Ziv ❤
My pleasure! I didn't hear from Korg any plans for that but the MIDI implementation is pretty open so hopefully a third party VST isn't far off
(obvs not mk2 compatible yet)
Thx for a great video! In depth & thorough. Enjoy your 2024
Nice review! Waiting for the New MicroKORG!!!
Nooo! Not another thing I didn't know I needed!
Let’s hope for a Prologue MK2 with velocity sensitive keybed, more LFOs, more envelopes and a modulation matrix. If they can pull that off without raising the price too much compared to the current prologue 8 and 16 they would have a winner in their hands.
Why didn't they do all that from the start?
That's why I won't buy a Prologue or Minilogue XD.
Korg seem to be going for it with new stuff just now. I like this, particularly the module versions of the Wavestate/Modwave.
So in other words, it’s a really cool, mini, cassette-sized, monophonic Electribe (underrated), made by
kORG.
Not bad. 👍
This is a superb looking audio processor and fx unit. Loved the OG for all the fx I could load on and use on inputs
Can you use it as an external filter unit?
Do you need to ask this question to dozens of people here? @@soacker25
As critical as I was regarding the « new » KingKorg, I have to say Korg did a GREAT job on this synth update. Many improvements!! Not sure what the price will be, and that might be a factor, but in any case, at least it’s a great improvement and worth considering, for those who like and use the NTS-1 mk1 (like me… I own 3). So: Good job Korg! Now apply this update philosophy to the next KingKorg please.
Thomann (Germany) are listing it at $118 or 129 Euros, or £111 GBP.
@@TooSlowTube I've compared prices for Thomann over and over and it always end up more expensive, when you factor in shipping and customs. I'm in Canada, so I shop at places like Cosmo and LongMcQuade, and have always been happy. You also have to consider warranty... some products bought outside of your country will not have warranty, depending on maker (had bad experience shopping at Sweetwater with that. No more for me). The only advantage I found at Thomann is availability: when a product is sold out everywhere, they sometimes have it. Especially true for Behringer.
@@SynthOSphere Thomann have their own warranty, or did the last time I checked. Their customer services do tend to answer if you want to ask them.
The best choices depend on where you live, certainly. They're never my first choice but they're usually an option.
Nice! For me the main flaw of mk1 is that you cannot adjust volume of the NTS-1 synth engine and aux input separately. That means that if you connect for example a Microfreak (which has low output volume) to the input of NTS-1 (to get effects) the NTS-1 internal synth will be so much louder than the Microfreak. It is possible to attenuate the input (microfreak in this example), but not the internal NTS-1 synth sound.
Has this been fixed in mk2?
That would be interesting indeed.
Yes you can. It's in the global menus.
i love loopop
The biggest issue I have with the NTS 1 is that it doesn't remember your settings... if you turn it off, you have to start over setting everything up the next time you use it. That's a major pain for any device that relies on menu-diving
The MK2 remembers the machine state when you power down
Very nice! @@loopop
I had multiple mk1 units where the headphone jack solder points peeled off the board, hopefully they fixed that this time around. If not then the first thing you need to add a step during assembly where you reinforce the jacks with ropy gobs of hot glue.
I saw the recommendation of the hot glue somewhere else, but does it actually work?
dame with the midi jack for me...
Can you use the it as an external filter unit via audio in???
@@soacker25 yes even the original can do that.
I love cheap gear and all the limitations that accompany them. Forces creativity. I ordered a Liven Lo-fi 12 not bc it was cheap but bc it has only 4 second sample time at 12 bits. It's like how people used to use the Casio sk 5 or the rz1 which had even shorter sample time.
Interesting improvements. A whole-ass button just for an 8-step sequencer seems like underplaying it's possibilities though.
Would’ve expected at least 3 or 4 voices of polyphony for a mk2 tbh. Running midi into and playing chords would be nice.
I know people made custom chord oscillators but those have their own limitations especially with how they handle midi.
The unit supports polyphonic midi notes unlike previous model. now you can make polyphonic oscillators, but the default are monophonic. Its only matter of time to see polyphonic oscillators
That’s probably coming, and like he said, even if it doesn’t come pre-packaged with a polyphonic synth it’s only a matter of time before the fanbase develops one!
Hit the nail on the head. If this had 4 voices it would be worthwhile. For me it is $170 too much. Not interested.
I wish they'd have gone with a stereo pair 1/8th TRS jack instead of the single out.
Guess I picked the wrong week to finish assembling my NTS-1 😅
Just got one and haven't even unboxed it yet, I feel you!
@@cshftWell, I haven't even opened the parcel containing the NTS-1! 😲😬
Hi. Arp is synchronised, but you have to combine the keys. Press the first key to add the second and release the first...🙂
what? I also see a NTS-3 kaoss pad? Thx for the review!
My pleasure! yes, there's an NTS-3 but it's too early for review units I believe
@@loopop I also see 3 desktop modules! Opsix, wavestate etc
@@SparklesofGold yes, but not much to cover for me
Does the PCB still have holes (unpopulated header) for wiring up MIDI sockets and alternative audio sockets?
if Korg add patch memory an a mini oled display, THAT would be evolutionarily
Too bad they didn’t use this update to add a mono in option , it makes an excellent effects box , but if you have a mono out synth you have to go through a passive guitar pedal or adapter that does mono to stereo. Bummer.
Love the Sinevibes algos , especially droplets , I wonder if we will get an upgrade price because I don’t fancy buying them all again for the mk 2 tbh.
Other than that I love the Nts , I wish they did a stand alone unit with proper I/0 and a bigger prebuilt size , like a pro version, I really like this platform.
I don't get your mono part?
When I hook up a mono synth to my NTS-1, I recieve stereo out? Used for, for example Ping Pong delay, Chorus, etc. I don't need passive pedals or anything in between to make it stereo.
I just bought a syntakt and I find it small. But this is an entire new level of tininess lol.
They have to be kidding with the $170 price tag though.
Not sure to understand if this is actually capable of polyphony if someone makes a poly OSC for it.
Or is it just the built in keyboard so only for controlling other synths with polyphony through the MIDI output ?
Already pre-ordered on sweetwater, a quick look looks like they didn't fix my biggest peeve though with the original is all the connectors can easily be broken which I did to an audio jack, thankfully their warranty gave me a new one. Wondering if you can upload more effects and OSCs than the original which would be really cool if you could -- memory is cheap so that would be an easy change.
Broke mine as well and got a replacement
Wonder what happens if the replacement breaks 😅 @@john678
Damn you Korg.
Mine broke too, and Korg played hide and seek. I eventually soldered a new cable on the mainboard. Now MIDI in broke and sync in also is breaking.
Had to hot glue the entire thing shut to prevent another connector breaking.
I hear some people getting warranty and others being ignored.
@@PANTA-Music
I was just lucky. Got mine from Amazon an still within the return date. Sucks that they break so easily
Anyone know if the output is any louder?
Does it bloody save the settings when you turn it off?! This has made my original NTS-1 practically useless!
yes it does!
Came here just to find this out
@@loopop Hooray! Hopefully it's not much more expensive than the MK1, seems like every new release costs more than the last. Did you mention price in the video I maybe missed it.
@@BeniRoseMusic 169.00 USD Sweetwater site
@@BeniRoseMusic no, I didn’t mention it because prices change, and it’s up to the retailer, but I put links in the description
I hope Korg has finally implemented MIDI CCs in the MK2 for controlling the custom parameters (Osc+Type) and values (B) of user oscillators. This was a major drawback in the MK1.
NIIIIIICE!
Are the solderings of the I/O's just as bad as the OG one?
16:26 i actually like that it doesnt sync to the pattern, so you can sequence ″craazy″ patterns^^
I wonder if there will be a version with only the effects and probably the filter, with a lower price as well. I'm sure most people use these things purely for the cool effects for their other synths, rather than a sound generator haha.
Holy hel finally - just starting the video, and some comments have me a bit nervous (this better not lose its FX capabilities) & hope it isn't $200+...
but word!
Hi. I have connected Nts midi IN, and in minilogue OUT, the same channel, type A cable. And the minilogue keyboard does not receive sound from Nts... What could be wrong? 🙏
Connected my NTS-1 Mk.II's MIDI Out (via Type-A TRS adapter + DIN cable) to Input PORT of MidiFace 4x4 interface. My DAW (FLStudio) then reports Keyboard Note-on and Rotary Control Changes on the NTS-1. For some reason, I imagined the MIDI Out socket might transmit MIDI *through* data, from the MIDI input Socket... But No? It does allow the NTS-1 to act as a (limited) MIDI controller?!? The MIDI Input socket on the NTS-1 does work as I would have expected though... 😸
Wow, what the release date?!
It's kinda funny that I like the timbre and find it more analog sounding than the King Korg Neo 🤣
hi, can the sequencer patterns be chained or is it only 8 steps ?
no chains, up to 8 steps
@@loopop tnx !
I grabbed the frame at 13:45 and it looks like the connectors have at least one pin (in rear - possibly two more in front) going through the pcb. IIRC the MK1 were completely surface mount. If there are several pins going through the pcb, the connector would be much more robust. ps Just saw a pic of the other side of the pcb and it does look like there are thru hole tabs for the connectors - will have to wait for a unit...
Love this
I’m waiting on Behringer to release the mini version.
Hi. I can't connect nts1 mkII to minilogue XD via midi. Connected via adaptor,nts1- IN, XD-OUT, same channel and nothing. You need to set something else in nts1 in addition to the channel???
Sorry - did you say that you will be able to save preset states on the unit itself? Or only in the computer software?
Only on the computer software
Thanks. Was really hoping for at least a little bit of internal patch storage. Dah!
Nice iv got the o.g nts1 so gonna have to get this it sounds like it sounds better and the keyboard looks much better and has a sequencer ..and noise generator It's a power house especially for sound design
Korg, please update Volca Sample2! It lacks a lot of features! I bought Volca Sample 2 hoping there will be much more!
All the features are shown on the many UA-cam videos. No surprises if you take the time for a bit of research.
@@leftmono1016 Hm, are talking Volca Sample2?
@@ildarkinildarkin - yes. Same applies to any gear. Even if you don’t see a specific feature on a video the manuals are available to download 👍
@@leftmono1016 You didn't get me, I'm asking for features that are not yet in the Volca2 and manual will not help in this case.
@@ildarkinildarkin - you said you bought a Sample 2 hoping there’d be more features. Find out the features before you buy, simple and avoids disappointment.
I had the first version for a while, the slightly low sample quality makes percussion sound really nice.
Thanks for the great video. Does the sequencer have rests?
This is great, and addresses all but one of my reservations about the original. The one thing they missed out? Saving presets. For the sake of an EEPROM that would've added a few cents to the BOM, this seems like such a weird omission.
Wish it was battery powered, but still a great update
I just use a small usb battery pack with my mk 1. Lasts forever on a single charge.
@@MrTanukiD yeah, I'm not a fan of using external power banks personally, immediately makes a piece of gear much less portable. Something this small should easily be able to run off of a couple of AAA batteries
Cheers man
Are old NTS-1 effects usable?
They're not compatible with this
Thank you! My GAS will never end ... ;-)
Is the output volume of the device you run through it louder than the original NTS-1? That is a big issue with the original.
Does it still have midi over USB? Audio over USB would be nice too
Yes MIDI, no audio
I don't think this has any cv/gate inputs. Only asking because it would be quite cool addition to a small eurorack rig, to add an oscillator, digital filter and I guess FX unit. But I guess only way to do that would be trigger it from another device with MIDI and I/O, like MPC One or Oxi One etc ...
Have they killed the usb interference from the display, if so, count me in🤗😊
Cool resonator❤
Where's the groundloop eliminator link?
you mean *groundloopop* eliminator link!!!
Added - thanks for reminding me!
Any ground loop isolator on Amazon, works.
thank you! looking forward to the kaoss pad one when it releases @@loopop
Oooh, i am looking forward to thus new NYS1! But.... can the filter ne applied to the external audio signal? It was the biggest con for me on the original that it came later in the signal path.
Yes you can (in that case it goes through the amp EG too)
@@loopopis the audio in stereo?
Attempting to use the original with the Circuit Tracks ws very frustrating because the output volume was very low even at max. Has the output level been increased?
Serious question, why would I buy this vs Volca Bass or Keys?
FX, extendable by open source patches, more oscillator options. They are very different, Volcas are analog, fun but quite limited.
This has audio in that will go through the units fx. More fx at the same time, downloadable osc’s and fx
They do very different things? This is essentially a platform for different types of synthesis and effects. If you don't mind that it's digital, it's quite a bit more powerful. While I'd rather use a vst for digital sounds I can see using this a an affordable multifx box. That alone is something the volcas aren't going to get you far with
Thanks for this review. I have the original NTS-1 and I really like it. Too bad about the lack of SDK backwards compatibility. Yet, the little sequencer might be something that I'd consider exploring an upgrade down the road. Cheers!✌
hi Loolop, if placed as the second device of a midi chain does it correctly send the clock received from the first to the third device? in the global parameters under sync midi source I only find internal/auto (no external) and there is no specific option such as midi clock sync out. I also have the same doubt about seq sync start/stop
Thank you
More advanced SDK ? But is it still compatible with the older NTS/Logue multiengine SDK plugins ? Or isn’t it already a vocoder actually ? What happens if we connect a microphone as modulator ? I hope they are easy to port and companies like Sinevibes will provide ported updates to current version owners 🙏
Does the internal board look more robust than the OG? It was ridiculously easy to break a surface mount jack's foot off the internal board with just slightly too much force, or just using the audio in jack one too many times.
it seems the same to me
- I've had 3 nts-1, 2 of them the surface mounts came off even with gentle use so I'll skip this, I got a Minilogue XD.
@@pauldablue sadly, the XD doesn't have the audio-in, which is one of the best things about the NTS-1. The trick for the NTS-1 would be to get a little 3.5mm stereo extension, then plug stuff into that to minimize wear-and-tear.
One can also hack the NTS-1, adding a tougher stereo input jack soldered to the mainboard connections that replicate the capabilities of the weak little surface mounts. 😃
@@loopop 😞
Well I’ll have some work to do!
Were any of the firmware requests looked into by Korg?
BPM sync for the delay ALONE makes this a good buy! I think of my original NTS-1 as a nice FX box for my Arturia Microbrute, with a bonus mono synth, but it was sorely lacking the ability to sync its delay times to MIDI tempo. The cheapest delay pedal I could find with this feature was a used Boss DD-200 and that probably still cost about the same as what the MKII will list for. For my needs, I'm now wondering if I should sell the MK1 and the DD-200, buy this and regain some desk space.
There is a logue custom delay available called BPM delay which works for the NTS.
Makes me wonder why no more delays were made with BPM settings.
@@PANTA-Music Yeah, I installed that as soon as I realized the stock delays didn’t sync and I couldn’t get it to sound any good. Must have been a challenge to write that with the old SDK?
now I feel bad about rushing in to buy the mki, thinking that this would be one of the last units they would go and revise 😅
Any chance there is an NTS-3 review on the way?😅
yes, I don't know when yet though...
Can you Midi the two together for a 2 oscillator Synth via a Keyboard Controller? 3 for a mock Mini Moog?
Mini Mini Moog
Some noobish questions.
Has anyone recommend the proper cables for putting other gear on 1/4 ?
Does routing the output through an audio interface improvd the sound quality?
Not very jmpressed by the sounds so far with the headphones straight in.
Anyone used this on a track that I could reference.
Thanks.
I missed some competitor names in the "pros and cons" section. I am currently using the NTS1 mostly as effects unit (after my synth). Is there a good alternative that is more sturdy? zoom ms70? Although it also has quite some menu diving ... Anything else some of you are happy with?
you're welcome. pros and cons are always against the competition, sometimes I name specific names, sometimes not - for example here when there are so many multi effects options, but yes zoom effects in general would certainly be included
pretty much anything will be more sturdy!!