I also have an a6000… And since this camera nor the sigma doesn’t have built-in stabilisation, do you feel any difference to the cheap kit lens that actually does have stabilisation?
For not even more then two weeks, i bought this "extraordinary" lens for my faithfull A6000, I love the superb quality. I was ready tho buy the Sony in the same range, but I do only photos, son I Didn't need a stabilisation and no need to get the steady f2.8 for video and almoste the same optical result in photos. But, Curtis you convince me to upgrade my Sony A6000 to get the Sony A6400. Yes I like the Sigma lenses, I have the old 60mm, the 19mm, the 30mm f1.4 All of them are great, great optical quality. With my Sigma 60mm I've done many very clean pictures at 1/25sec, as long I don't drink more the 12 coffee before the shooting! 😂
Yes, I feel a bit of a struggle when shooting in low light, a bit of movement from the kit lens. Even for photos, it is good to have stabilization.@@L3nny666
Have been using this lens for a few months now. I still can't believe how sharp it is for a zoom. It really is as pin sharp as a prime in many of my photos. Friends who have seen the photos just did not believe me when I informed them they were taken on a zoom. It really is that good.
I own it since release in autumn ‘21, use it almost every day, and still can‘t believe how good it is. Not just for the price, but in general, independent of the price. Highly, highly recommended!
I had tried the Sigma, and it is compact and light, but ended up settling on the Tamron 17-70mm. For the bit extra size and weight, the tick more on wide and good amount more on zoom makes it the most versatile lens in it’s class. I personally prefer faster primes, but if I could have just one lens to shoot almost everything with, the Tamron takes it. Like the Sigmas though, wish it had OS.
@@IngriqiDin have the same question! Im going to move from the a6400 to 6700 also I need a zoom.. I've heard that the Tamron 17-70 with VC doesn't work so well.. meaning that the sigma 18-50 is actually a better choice (for users who own a camera with ibis)
I have owned this lens for the last few months. The only drawback is that it struggles in low light situation. What an amazing lens in this price point ❤
Yeah I see that, I didn't do any lower light test cause Imagined I'd struggle with the F2.8 Apeture. However with Adobe's new AI De-noise tool it be Intresting to see if you can shoot higher ISO with this lens whilst shooting in lower light situation and get clean results. Anyway I'm rambling haha, could agree more fantastic little lens! 🤙
@@CurtisPadley can you have low light decent shots with max ISO set to 6400? I recently took some portraits on the street in low light with my Sigma 30 f/1.4, I used the following settings: f/2.0 - ISO 6400 - 1/80, and since I wanted to buy the 18-50 instead of this one, this concern popped into mind while I was shooting. maybe the shots would have not looked as sharp at f/2.8 aperture. I personally limit ISO to 6400 in camera settings so even in Auto mode it never goes too high.
This lens may be a future purchase for sure. I've been eyeing up the tamron 17-70 f2.8 This was a great review to watch mate, the flow of the video and content was ace 👍🏻
The sigma 18-50 is a sick lens for the apsc cameras! Very sharp. Really the only benefit to the tamron 17-70 is that lens is stabilized. Nice vid curtis
Defentely ! I've made a video to demonstrate the lens when shooting videos. I've shot some shot's Handheld and it actually turned out well with the active steady shot on the ZVE-10 turned on, hope you like it curtis and kyle watts ua-cam.com/video/rokVb1fk7sk/v-deo.html
The size of this lens is awesome over the Tamron! That being said, each MM on the wide end is a bigger change than it would be on the tele, so the 17 vs 18 is actually helpful sometimes. Also, with an APSc sensor any extra background separation is helpful, so the extra 20mm on the tele end are super useful for more striking portraiture. Just food for thought as someone who has tried both and for the life of me can't pick which is overall better. I think though their focal lengths/apertures are similar, they really fill different niches!
I really like this lens. I have primes for portraits but instead I'm using this 18-50. It always surprises me how sharp the images are using this lens. It's on my camera 90% of the time.
It just the better version of the 16-50 kit lens and the Sigma primes have always been a favorite because Sony for years ignored the APC line up for years while they focused on full frame lenses. None of the original Sigma primes had stabilization and this lens is cheaper than buying 16, 30, 60 Art lens all in one package with the same f/2.8. The only reason to opt for the primes is that there are used options to get the Art primes used at closer to $100 per lens. So you could get 3 primes or this one for within $100 or so depending on what you find in the used marketplace.
I use it on my A7C, and its my favourite walk around lens. Good fast focus, amazing photos and videos. Lack of OSS is not a problem if you have any of the newer Sonys that has gyro data. Catalyst browser does wonder with stabilizing, its almost gimbal-like. The only thing i dont like about this lens is that the zoom ring sits on the outside, i would prefer it to be on the closer side to the camera body. F2.8 is more than enough for any general kind of use.
Looking for a lens upgrade for my a6000 kit lens. This is definitely a contender, but it will be my only lens, and I think 50mm is just a tiny bit too wide for some of my usecases, and the lack of stabilization is a bummer. Been looking at the Tamron 17-70mm f/2.8, as its just a bit more zoom, and has stabilization. It's a bit more expensive, but has been on sale for roughly the same price as the sigma a few times before, so hoping it might go on sale again. Would this be a good choice?
I just started to follow you and this video came up. This is exactly what I needed to see. I just got my Sony a6400 and I’ve been looking for recommendations for street photography lenses and this made up my mind. Thank you!!!!
I had a 18-50 f2.8 Sigma way back for my old D7000 and loved it, but at times wished it had a bit more reach. So I wonder how good it is against the Sony 18-135?
great review man! stabilization is a little drawback, since im looking to capture video, but there are many different free softwares that allow you to steady the shot for you liking so I think this is the next purchase for me for sure!
I also considering buy this lens for the a7iv for video will be great 4k 60 crop and dont have to change lenses every time i still using the old sigma 18-35 1.8 that its heavy but sharp
Looks like an amazing little lens. im still wondering if I should have gone down the Sony route as my canon, especerly rf mount lenses are so expensive with no alternative
Have you used it outside in the rain? Seeing as it is not weather sealed.. Also: what is your impression of the Sigma on the a6400 (without IS) as compared to the ZV-E10? Would you say on the a6400 the Sigma + Gimbal is a better choice than the stabilized Tamron?
Hiya, I don't just shoot in landscape or portrait. I do a mixture. Cause it depends on the setting and moment. Somtimes shots work better in landscape, other times the opposite.
Thank you for the video. What do you think the fact that it doesn't have weather seal? I want to buy the a6400 and a zoom lense for backpacking for photography. I thought that the tamron with weather seal will be a good choice but I like the small size and light weight of the sigma.
Hi Curtis can you recommend a sigma lens for the Sony A6400 to use for animal photography inside and outdoors some i take with a light box indoors for puppy photos but i also want a good lens for outside shots .
Hi there! I've been using a Sony Zeiss 16-70 F4 (yes the "infamous" one...) for a long time, lately with a Sony A6400 that I recently sold to get a new 6700: do you think the SIgma 18-50 is an upgrade compared to the Zeiss 16-70? Pro: lightness and F2.8 against F4 / Cons: reduced "range" and no stabilization (but 6700 has in-built stabilization that 6400 had not)
When i want to put video focus. Af drive speed to fast and af tracking in says ivalid with this lens but i have exact same camera and lens. Can someone explain?
Which one to pick between Tamron 17-70 2.8 and this for the Sony A6400? I want that all-in-one lens good for night shots and good video. A difference of about 300$ in my country. Edit: I'm starting with the 16-50 kit lens, will get this later on
I don't know really, I'm not an employer of sigma 😂 But if I was to guess I'd say quite safely that it'd be for a Fullframe camera, becuase 70-200 always are 👍
How does it compare in size/dimensions to the Sigma primes? I have the Tamron 17-70 and while it is a great lens, it is just too big and bulky for a discrete street camera set up. And I don't think the image looks as nice as on my Sigmas. I find the Sigma primes just have a look or character about them that I love, but I don't know exactly what it is about the look I love, and why the Tamron doesn't have it!
Good question, I'm hoping to answer that myself fairly soon. Cause I wanna test out the sigma 56mm prime. As far as I know they are really decent sized just like the sigma 18-50, think primes are a little smaller but that's cause they have no mechanic moving parts like a zoom! Hope that helps ✌️
@@CurtisPadley Do you have the Sigma 30mm? It look like it might be closest in size to that (when set to 18mm). The Sigma 56mm is tiny, and a bloody brilliant lens
I dunno if my original comment didn't post or got deleted, but either way long story short... the timing is super funny as I just ordered this lens this morning and I'm super hype to try it out, and can't wait to watch this video later after the kids go to bed!
Credible, well paced/illustrated review, Curtis. Low light performance a compromise. Is the lens weather-sealed? Swiss army knives are handy, but have you tried a French army knife? - Every tool is a corkscrew.😊 Cheers!
@@CurtisPadley @paulm8157 All the other reviews say that it's NOT weather-sealed! There is a rubber gasket around the lense mount, but other parts of the lense are not sealed. That (and the price) is the only big difference between this lense and the Sony 16-55mm f2.8
The problem with this lens is that I don't use my other lenses anymore.
Lol
hahahaha broo… 😂
Same problem
😂 i have this lens as my first fuji lens. and it really is a workhorse. i only swap when i needed a telephoto lens.
Hahahaha positive problem
I’ve been using this lens on my A6000, and it has easily become my go-to lens for so much. An absolute beast in a tiny package.
What an absolute pocket rocket setup dude! 📸🤙
I also have an a6000…
And since this camera nor the sigma doesn’t have built-in stabilisation, do you feel any difference to the cheap kit lens that actually does have stabilisation?
For not even more then two weeks, i bought this "extraordinary" lens for my faithfull A6000, I love the superb quality. I was ready tho buy the Sony in the same range, but I do only photos, son I Didn't need a stabilisation and no need to get the steady f2.8 for video and almoste the same optical result in photos. But, Curtis you convince me to upgrade my Sony A6000 to get the Sony A6400. Yes I like the Sigma lenses, I have the old 60mm, the 19mm, the 30mm f1.4 All of them are great, great optical quality.
With my Sigma 60mm I've done many very clean pictures at 1/25sec, as long I don't drink more the 12 coffee before the shooting! 😂
Yes, I feel a bit of a struggle when shooting in low light, a bit of movement from the kit lens. Even for photos, it is good to have stabilization.@@L3nny666
Have been using this lens for a few months now. I still can't believe how sharp it is for a zoom. It really is as pin sharp as a prime in many of my photos. Friends who have seen the photos just did not believe me when I informed them they were taken on a zoom. It really is that good.
I own it since release in autumn ‘21, use it almost every day, and still can‘t believe how good it is. Not just for the price, but in general, independent of the price. Highly, highly recommended!
I had tried the Sigma, and it is compact and light, but ended up settling on the Tamron 17-70mm. For the bit extra size and weight, the tick more on wide and good amount more on zoom makes it the most versatile lens in it’s class. I personally prefer faster primes, but if I could have just one lens to shoot almost everything with, the Tamron takes it.
Like the Sigmas though, wish it had OS.
" a bit extra size" more like alot, its like night and day brother
Doesn't it have VC/OS? Or are you saying it doesn't work as well?
@@laswoodworking2033 VC is good but more hasty movements the VC will actully work against in body stabilisation.
@@deveenbr1169It means if I have the tamron and a6700 with IBIS, the VC will work better?
@@IngriqiDin have the same question! Im going to move from the a6400 to 6700 also I need a zoom.. I've heard that the Tamron 17-70 with VC doesn't work so well.. meaning that the sigma 18-50 is actually a better choice (for users who own a camera with ibis)
I have owned this lens for the last few months. The only drawback is that it struggles in low light situation. What an amazing lens in this price point ❤
also had some problems with it, but overall a fantastic little lens
Yeah I see that, I didn't do any lower light test cause Imagined I'd struggle with the F2.8 Apeture. However with Adobe's new AI De-noise tool it be Intresting to see if you can shoot higher ISO with this lens whilst shooting in lower light situation and get clean results.
Anyway I'm rambling haha, could agree more fantastic little lens! 🤙
@Curtis Padley well, you took some fantastic photos out in the light - that is what matters. You can use something else, indoors. Cannot have it all!
@Lua Films absolutely.
@@CurtisPadley can you have low light decent shots with max ISO set to 6400? I recently took some portraits on the street in low light with my Sigma 30 f/1.4, I used the following settings: f/2.0 - ISO 6400 - 1/80, and since I wanted to buy the 18-50 instead of this one, this concern popped into mind while I was shooting. maybe the shots would have not looked as sharp at f/2.8 aperture. I personally limit ISO to 6400 in camera settings so even in Auto mode it never goes too high.
This lens may be a future purchase for sure. I've been eyeing up the tamron 17-70 f2.8
This was a great review to watch mate, the flow of the video and content was ace 👍🏻
Thanks dude, glad you enjoyed the video! ⚡
The sigma 18-50 is a sick lens for the apsc cameras! Very sharp. Really the only benefit to the tamron 17-70 is that lens is stabilized. Nice vid curtis
Defentely !
I've made a video to demonstrate the lens when shooting videos. I've shot some shot's Handheld and it actually turned out well with the active steady shot on the ZVE-10 turned on, hope you like it curtis and kyle watts
ua-cam.com/video/rokVb1fk7sk/v-deo.html
Thanks bro! Couldn't agree more! ⚡
The size of this lens is awesome over the Tamron! That being said, each MM on the wide end is a bigger change than it would be on the tele, so the 17 vs 18 is actually helpful sometimes. Also, with an APSc sensor any extra background separation is helpful, so the extra 20mm on the tele end are super useful for more striking portraiture. Just food for thought as someone who has tried both and for the life of me can't pick which is overall better. I think though their focal lengths/apertures are similar, they really fill different niches!
I really like this lens. I have primes for portraits but instead I'm using this 18-50. It always surprises me how sharp the images are using this lens. It's on my camera 90% of the time.
It just the better version of the 16-50 kit lens and the Sigma primes have always been a favorite because Sony for years ignored the APC line up for years while they focused on full frame lenses. None of the original Sigma primes had stabilization and this lens is cheaper than buying 16, 30, 60 Art lens all in one package with the same f/2.8. The only reason to opt for the primes is that there are used options to get the Art primes used at closer to $100 per lens. So you could get 3 primes or this one for within $100 or so depending on what you find in the used marketplace.
this lens is now next on my list to buy! amazing video once again :)
Woo enjoy it when you get it! 😄 And thank you isabel! 🙌🏼
Is this a food combo for car photography/videography?
I use it on my A7C, and its my favourite walk around lens. Good fast focus, amazing photos and videos. Lack of OSS is not a problem if you have any of the newer Sonys that has gyro data. Catalyst browser does wonder with stabilizing, its almost gimbal-like. The only thing i dont like about this lens is that the zoom ring sits on the outside, i would prefer it to be on the closer side to the camera body. F2.8 is more than enough for any general kind of use.
f2.8 apsc lens gives the bokeh of a f4.2, which is still pretty good
Which lens do you recommend for wildlife photography?
Tamron 17-70Mm F2.8 is also good.
Agree, as long as you don’t mind the weight and size. Personally, I found it too much and decided to return it.
Looking for a lens upgrade for my a6000 kit lens. This is definitely a contender, but it will be my only lens, and I think 50mm is just a tiny bit too wide for some of my usecases, and the lack of stabilization is a bummer.
Been looking at the Tamron 17-70mm f/2.8, as its just a bit more zoom, and has stabilization. It's a bit more expensive, but has been on sale for roughly the same price as the sigma a few times before, so hoping it might go on sale again.
Would this be a good choice?
I just started to follow you and this video came up. This is exactly what I needed to see. I just got my Sony a6400 and I’ve been looking for recommendations for street photography lenses and this made up my mind. Thank you!!!!
One day i will buy Zve10 & Sigma 18-50😇
Had this lens for about a year and been all over Europe a got some great sharp images
Keep up the amazing content, mate. Absolutely loving these !!
I thought for landscape you want more f9+ will the fixed f2.8 affect those wide landscape shots? New to photography trying to learn, thanks!
This lens vs Tamron 17-70, what is better choice?
I have this lens on my Fuji X H2s. As good as anything I've ever used. Amazing photos.
I had a 18-50 f2.8 Sigma way back for my old D7000 and loved it, but at times wished it had a bit more reach. So I wonder how good it is against the Sony 18-135?
I haven't seen any substantial criticism of this lens yet. I'll get one for my kid's basketball!
great review man! stabilization is a little drawback, since im looking to capture video, but there are many different free softwares that allow you to steady the shot for you liking so I think this is the next purchase for me for sure!
Do you know which softwares? I too would like to purchase this lens if but the stabilization is getting to me
Thanks for this review Curtis. I bought me one. Anyway what lens did you use for your B rolls in this video? I love the bokeh.
I also considering buy this lens for the a7iv for video will be great 4k 60 crop and dont have to change lenses every time i still using the old sigma 18-35 1.8 that its heavy but sharp
Can you do a video with the settings you have on yours with the lense and the camera
Looks like an amazing little lens. im still wondering if I should have gone down the Sony route as my canon, especerly rf mount lenses are so expensive with no alternative
Thanks dude! Honestly Canon is great but the lenses so expensive. That's why I recommend Sony honestly.
Would you pick the sigma 30mm 1.4 or this lens for video?????
Have you used it outside in the rain? Seeing as it is not weather sealed..
Also: what is your impression of the Sigma on the a6400 (without IS) as compared to the ZV-E10? Would you say on the a6400 the Sigma + Gimbal is a better choice than the stabilized Tamron?
Can you do a 85mm street photography POV without taking any pictures in portrait. Man it's challenging to find good shots in landscape 😢
Hiya, I don't just shoot in landscape or portrait. I do a mixture. Cause it depends on the setting and moment. Somtimes shots work better in landscape, other times the opposite.
@@CurtisPadley please can you do a pov day of just landscape to see what you come up with
Thx for the review! And for such cool & inspiring shots in London!
Seems, that this lens could be a very good partner of my 6600 😉
Hey, @Curtis Padley I really like the center pic you took at 2:53. Could you tell me how to achieve something like that? Btw, awesome video. Thanks!
Thank you for the video. What do you think the fact that it doesn't have weather seal? I want to buy the a6400 and a zoom lense for backpacking for photography. I thought that the tamron with weather seal will be a good choice but I like the small size and light weight of the sigma.
Awesome video! Would you suggest the A6600 or A6400 to pair with this lens, or is the upgrade not worth it (mainly for videography)?
8:01 what camera and lens in this footage ??
so should i take this lens and the 6400 as my first camera ever?
I have a doubt if this lens works with A6500 for filming beacuse the stabilization. What do you think about this?
Can someone please help me?
Is Zhiyun Weebill S a good gimbal for 18-50 lens on a6400. Or Maybe any other gimbal that works for that combo?
Please please
hi. I just would like to know what polarizing filter did you use on this lens?
Ive had this since Christmas 2021 and I hardly ever take it off my 6400. If I do its to switch to the sigma 105mm macro 😅
Hi. Do you use VND for street photography and portraits?
Hi Curtis can you recommend a sigma lens for the Sony A6400 to use for animal photography inside and outdoors some i take with a light box indoors for puppy photos but i also want a good lens for outside shots .
Hi there! I've been using a Sony Zeiss 16-70 F4 (yes the "infamous" one...) for a long time, lately with a Sony A6400 that I recently sold to get a new 6700: do you think the SIgma 18-50 is an upgrade compared to the Zeiss 16-70?
Pro: lightness and F2.8 against F4 / Cons: reduced "range" and no stabilization (but 6700 has in-built stabilization that 6400 had not)
Not just for 6400. Basically for all sony mirrorless camera 😂. Literally a game changer if you’re using zv e10
im rocking the A6400 with the tamron 17-70 and its amazing!
Wicked combo! 🤙
18mm in apsc is like 27mm in full frame right?
wild chromatic aberrations on 5:05. So not only " one drawback - lack of optical steadyshot"
When i want to put video focus. Af drive speed to fast and af tracking in says ivalid with this lens but i have exact same camera and lens. Can someone explain?
6:13 can we fix this problem with active stady shot ?
Which one to pick between Tamron 17-70 2.8 and this for the Sony A6400? I want that all-in-one lens good for night shots and good video. A difference of about 300$ in my country.
Edit: I'm starting with the 16-50 kit lens, will get this later on
Since A6400 does not have IBIS, you should probably go for Tamron 17-70 as it has VC stabilization which is better for night shots and video.
My photo was featured, thank you Curtis ❤️ Great video on top of that, keep up the inspirational content 💪
Thanks Mate, Keep up the great work!
hi mate, would this lense work on an a7 iii?
I saw on YT that Sigma is coming out with a 70-200 2.8 comparable lens later in 2023. Is it going to be a lens for apsc?
I don't know really, I'm not an employer of sigma 😂 But if I was to guess I'd say quite safely that it'd be for a Fullframe camera, becuase 70-200 always are 👍
Should I trust this lens for an event?
I think the real question is can you trust yourself
How does it compare in size/dimensions to the Sigma primes? I have the Tamron 17-70 and while it is a great lens, it is just too big and bulky for a discrete street camera set up. And I don't think the image looks as nice as on my Sigmas. I find the Sigma primes just have a look or character about them that I love, but I don't know exactly what it is about the look I love, and why the Tamron doesn't have it!
Good question, I'm hoping to answer that myself fairly soon. Cause I wanna test out the sigma 56mm prime. As far as I know they are really decent sized just like the sigma 18-50, think primes are a little smaller but that's cause they have no mechanic moving parts like a zoom! Hope that helps ✌️
@@CurtisPadley Do you have the Sigma 30mm? It look like it might be closest in size to that (when set to 18mm). The Sigma 56mm is tiny, and a bloody brilliant lens
@@northernfocusmcr I do not have the 30mm buddy ✌️
Is it durable in rain ?
New Video, Let's go!!
How is the hand zoom on this lens? like can you zoom in and out smoothly or is it a bit steppy like the Tamron?
Smooth like butter! ✌️
Awesome, i have a Tamron 17-10 and hand zooming is really steppy, not smooth at all. So the Sony is super smooth hand zooming then? @@CurtisPadley
I dunno if my original comment didn't post or got deleted, but either way long story short... the timing is super funny as I just ordered this lens this morning and I'm super hype to try it out, and can't wait to watch this video later after the kids go to bed!
What timing dude! Hope you get to creating with this lens soon! 🤙
is stability still an issue with the a6700?
No at all! It's one of the best lenses for the A6700! :)
Credible, well paced/illustrated review, Curtis. Low light performance a compromise. Is the lens weather-sealed? Swiss army knives are handy, but have you tried a French army knife? - Every tool is a corkscrew.😊 Cheers!
Thanks mate! Yes forgot to mention that, lens is weather-sealed 🌧️
I've never tried a French army knife haha 🙌🏼
@@CurtisPadley @paulm8157 All the other reviews say that it's NOT weather-sealed! There is a rubber gasket around the lense mount, but other parts of the lense are not sealed. That (and the price) is the only big difference between this lense and the Sony 16-55mm f2.8
I bought this lens 1 week after I got the Sigma 30mm f1.4
Now I can no longer justify keeping the 30mm
Dear youtube - I am in doubt if I should get this one or the sigma 16mm F/1.4.... HELP! (first and only lens for the a6400 so far)
Can I use Sigma 18-50 on Sony A6100 ? will it still be the same image quality as on A6400
Yes
Is this lens also good for the Sony alpha 6700?
One of the best! ⚡
Nice, thank you. Then its decided. Im getting this lens :)@@CurtisPadley
Is this lens have OSS ?
No stabilisation, unfortunately
Does it stabilize
I answer this in the drawback section of the video ✌️
I've bought this lens and it no longer get's off my camera !
Have you super glued it on? 😂
la'ning fas o'o'fo'us 👌
Is this a full frame lens?
Nope
Bri'ish ehh! Where'd all the t's go ma'e😆
Quailty
There is the sigma 24 to 70 zoom.
That's correct however, that's designed for Fullframe cameras. This is designed for APS-C 💯
@@CurtisPadley Im a sigma head. Its about to go on my 6700 💯I was not paying Sony 2k for a lens lol
👍💜👍💜👍💜
Tamron is better 👍
In your opinion buddy, don't forget people have different preferences 🙏
Will my photos look bad because neither the a6400 or this lens has image stabilization or OSS? Or will I be good?
Can someone please help me?
Is Zhiyun Weebill S a good gimbal for 18-50 lens on a6400. Or Maybe any other gimbal that works for that combo?
Can someone please help me?
Is Zhiyun Weebill S a good gimbal for 18-50 lens on a6400. Or Maybe any other gimbal that works for that combo?
Can someone please help me?
Is Zhiyun Weebill S a good gimbal for 18-50 lens on a6400. Or Maybe any other gimbal that works for that combo?